Latest / Clean Water Conversations / Episode 7 - Water Week with Kelly Snavely and Keith Williams part 1
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- 0:12SPEAKER_04: Hello everyone and welcome to Clean Water Conversations, the podcast where we have casual discussions about creating clean and clear waterways right here in Lancaster County.
- 0:21SPEAKER_04: I'm Ken.
- 0:21SPEAKER_02: Hey everybody, I'm Allison.
- 0:23SPEAKER_04: Allison, it is spring.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: It is blooming and beautiful.
- 0:27SPEAKER_04: We are in the crux of it.
- 0:28SPEAKER_04: It is gorgeous out there.
- 0:30SPEAKER_04: Time for planting and gardening.
- 0:33SPEAKER_04: And I'm just kind of curious.
- 0:34SPEAKER_04: Do you do any gardening?
- 0:36SPEAKER_04: No.
- 0:37SPEAKER_02: I wish that I could, but I'm just that is not a gift I have.
- 0:41SPEAKER_04: What a silly question, Ken.
- 0:43SPEAKER_02: How about yourself?
- 0:45SPEAKER_04: Well, we used to have a fairly big garden, but I couldn't keep up with it.
- 0:49SPEAKER_04: Uh so we're trying something new.
- 0:50SPEAKER_04: I actually made planter boxes this year.
- 0:53SPEAKER_04: Just two of them.
- 0:54SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't know about that, but uh we'll see we'll see how the how everything comes out.
- 0:58SPEAKER_04: They're just simple, just little 20 by 20 inch uh planter boxes, and we'll we'll plant tomatoes in the one and maybe peppers or something in the other one and see what happens.
- 1:09SPEAKER_02: Sounds good.
- 1:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: We'll make sure that we have a potluck lunch so we can all enjoy the benefits.
- 1:14SPEAKER_04: It'll be exciting, regardless.
- 1:16SPEAKER_04: It'll be exciting.
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: And you know what?
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: Speaking of exciting, we are talking Lancaster Water Week on this episode.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: It's coming up quick.
- 1:23SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:23SPEAKER_04: And we're talking with Kelly Snavely, who is the Vice President of Development and Marketing, and Keith Williams, the Vice President of Education and Engagement at Lancaster Conservancy, two of the people that helped put this thing together.
- 1:36SPEAKER_04: They are true superstars.
- 1:38SPEAKER_04: And so much information, so many stories, so many events going on.
- 1:43SPEAKER_04: We actually had to split it into two episodes.
- 1:47SPEAKER_04: So this is the first episode.
- 1:49SPEAKER_04: The second one will be out in a couple of weeks.
- 1:51SPEAKER_04: Let's get into it.
- 1:52SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
- 1:53SPEAKER_04: We're here talking with Kelly Snavely, Keith Williams, both from Lancaster Conservancy.
- 1:58SPEAKER_04: Hey, how are you guys doing?
- 1:59SPEAKER_04: Great.
- 2:00SPEAKER_04: Doing great.
- 2:00SPEAKER_04: We're gonna we're gonna talk about Water Week because that's that's coming up.
- 2:03SPEAKER_04: But actually, first, we always start these off with an icebreaker.
- 2:07SPEAKER_04: So your question is what would be the title of your autobiography?
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: Mom to go.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Yes, please, Pete.
- 2:20SPEAKER_03: Put a lot of thought into this.
- 2:23SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: Uh accidental naturalist, I think.
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: Accidental naturalist.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: That's a perfect combination of what we were just talking about or learning about you.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:33SPEAKER_03: So I've um I'm always been in into nature.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: Nature has always had this significant effect on me.
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: Um, went to undergraduate for environmental biology, worked as an ecologist for about 10 years, got into education.
- 2:44SPEAKER_03: Remember John Williams?
- 2:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
- 2:46SPEAKER_03: That's what I want it to be.
- 2:47SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: That's exactly that or Bill Portlock.
- 2:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right, yeah, right.
- 2:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 2:51SPEAKER_03: And then I I fell into this position at the Conservancy.
- 2:55SPEAKER_03: And all of a sudden woke up one day.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: I'm like, holy cow, I'm this accidental naturalist.
- 2:59SPEAKER_03: I'm like in that role.
- 3:01SPEAKER_04: So And we're not talking about John Williams, the composer.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: No, John Williams is this amazing, amazing.
- 3:06SPEAKER_03: We we have a common, common uh background.
- 3:09SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 3:09SPEAKER_03: And John Williams has always been one of my mentor, idol kind of people, and he was the the the senior naturalist essentially for CBF.
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 3:17SPEAKER_03: I'm like, boy, that'd be pretty great.
- 3:18SPEAKER_02: Writer, explorer, just amazing, expert in so many things.
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: Hang on.
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: And I would say you have oh did we say CBF?
- 3:27SPEAKER_03: CBF.
- 3:27SPEAKER_03: Oh Jessica Jesus Bay Foundation.
- 3:31SPEAKER_03: I didn't think I was gonna do that today at all.
- 3:33SPEAKER_03: Sorry about that.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: It happens so easily with organization.
- 3:38SPEAKER_04: Oh, we almost snuck it in.
- 3:39SPEAKER_04: See?
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: I didn't even notice.
- 3:42SPEAKER_04: It took me a while, and I had to move the paper off the board so I could get to the buttons.
- 3:48SPEAKER_04: So anybody who's not familiar, we have a rule against unexplained acronyms.
- 3:52SPEAKER_04: So if one of us, and that includes us, I've I've been buzzed already too.
- 3:56SPEAKER_04: Um if one of us uses an acronym, which are very common in this industry, we I'll I'll buzz you, we'll stop everything, and you have to explain what the acronym stands for.
- 4:06SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
- 4:08SPEAKER_04: Sorry about that.
- 4:10SPEAKER_04: Interrupt you in the middle of the sound is a fun one.
- 4:13SPEAKER_04: Oh, you can now use CBF, by the way.
- 4:15SPEAKER_03: So once once I buzz you, I'm not gonna get into that habit, though.
- 4:18SPEAKER_03: You're gonna set me up for the next one.
- 4:22SPEAKER_02: Promise.
- 4:23SPEAKER_04: I try to keep you on your toes, Keith.
- 4:24SPEAKER_04: It's working.
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: You guys make it easy.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: It's the Lancaster Conservancy.
- 4:28SPEAKER_02: You can't make it.
- 4:29SPEAKER_02: We don't have an acronym.
- 4:31SPEAKER_02: Maybe you do, but don't tell us if you do.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: We won't.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: So, Kelly, what would be your autobiography?
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, being this this conversation being around Water Week, I I feel like it has to kind of like even thematically like enter that realm.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely going to steer uh steal from a beer brainstorming session that we had for Lancaster Water Week, and one of the uh kind of names that was left on the table, I think.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Um so confluential even names.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Confluential.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely have to give credit to the brainstorming uh team who came up with that Lancaster Water Week beer name that never came to fruition.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: That's great.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: You know, for me in my life, um everything's been about like the intersections or the overlapping of things.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I started my career in, you know, I didn't even went to college for um managing the performing arts um and theater.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: And here I am now working in the conservation and environmental sector.
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: But I find there's so much overlap in the work of, you know, the arts and in the work of conserving our planet.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: You know, those skills come together in a really unique way.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: And I think Water Week actually is one of those places where it happens the most, you know, those collaborations and in creating experiences that help people deepen their knowledge, understanding, and desire to take action for our planet, for our waterways.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: That's when my skills come together like that.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: That's where I get really excited.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: So the coming together of things is, I think, where there's so much power and ability to influence our world and shape our world.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: And definitely the most impactful moments in my own life have been at these wild intersections that I never thought would come together in the skills that I've gained and the things that I love in my life.
- 6:28SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
- 6:30SPEAKER_04: So we have mentioned water week several times already in this conversation.
- 6:34SPEAKER_04: There are probably people out there who don't know what water week is.
- 6:38SPEAKER_04: So, in a nutshell, what is water week?
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: That's a wonderful question.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: Um, Lancaster Water Week is a week-long celebration of our streams and rivers here in Lancaster County.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have over 1,400 miles of streams and rivers, half of which are unfortunately not healthy.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Um, but there's incredible things happening in our community every day to heal our streams and rivers.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: And Water Week is an opportunity for a coalition, a collaboration of multiple partners doing that incredible work to share that work with the community.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: And Water Week is just a platform on which we can elevate and bring awareness to that work and hopefully get more people to join that effort, to increase that awareness and increase that action that, you know, we all need to take to invest in our streams and rivers and ensure that, you know, one day they're all healthy, that they're all swimmable, fishable, drinkable, that we can all enjoy them and the wonderful benefits that they provide that are, you know, everywhere from recreation to the economic side of things, the agricultural side of things, you know, here in the breadbasket of America and Lancaster County.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: Um, and and Water Week, you know, it's there's something for everyone.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: But I think the thing that defines it the most is that it's collaborative, it involves multiple partners, there's something for everyone of all ages, everyone of all understandings, whether or not you knew we had streams and rivers in this county or you've been volunteering for many years, there's some way to be involved, learn more, and take action.
- 8:15SPEAKER_04: Let me take a step back, actually, and just in total transparency, this is actually going to be my first water week.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: Oh, wonderful.
- 8:25SPEAKER_04: I have heard of it before.
- 8:26SPEAKER_04: I've seen, I think I saw commercials maybe on GAL in the past.
- 8:31SPEAKER_04: Uh, if you're not from the area, that's our local TV station.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: Um not an acronym.
- 8:36SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's not.
- 8:37SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
- 8:37SPEAKER_04: It's what I got.
- 8:42SPEAKER_05: He's watching you.
- 8:43SPEAKER_04: I appreciate you keeping me on my toes.
- 8:46SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
- 8:48SPEAKER_04: I love I love the participation.
- 8:52SPEAKER_04: So the question that I kind of pose um as somebody who's never partaken in it is why would I want to go and participate in Water Week?
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: Um I'll start it.
- 9:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you start it.
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's fun.
- 9:09SPEAKER_03: That's the start.
- 9:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:10SPEAKER_03: And there's an event for everybody.
- 9:11SPEAKER_03: Everything from concert series at Long's Park to um educational opportunities for people at maybe a 201 or a 301 level, creek stomps for kids, paddling.
- 9:22SPEAKER_03: There's something for everybody in this.
- 9:23SPEAKER_03: And so even if maybe you don't have that connection to water or to nature, and go to the Longs Park concert series.
- 9:31SPEAKER_03: It's a concert, it's music, right?
- 9:33SPEAKER_03: And maybe you'll pick something up along the way.
- 9:34SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 9:35SPEAKER_03: Um, we'll talk about the monolith that'll be at Penn Square.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: And that's just become this kind of crazy kind of taking a life on of its own.
- 9:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:43SPEAKER_03: And I've got some funny stories about them when we get to that part, um, related to my experiences of being downtown in the middle of the night and things happening at the monolith that I didn't expect.
- 9:53SPEAKER_03: Um, but it's it's so that's number one.
- 9:55SPEAKER_03: To me, it's it's it's a really fun way for people just to engage with this really cool community that's formed around this concept, right?
- 10:02SPEAKER_03: I mean, one of the things that blows me away about Lancaster is this conservation community that's here.
- 10:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 10:07SPEAKER_03: And all these organizations that are coming together uh in partnership to make this huge event that impacts tens of thousands of people in a real positive way.
- 10:17SPEAKER_03: And there's that's community.
- 10:18SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's community there, you know, and community in the name of conservation, in the name of clean water, and what we can all do.
- 10:23SPEAKER_03: And it's empowering too.
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: So it's fun and it's empowering, you know.
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: Uh when I look at listen to the news and look at what's going on in the world environmentally, it's like, man, oh man, holy crap.
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 10:34SPEAKER_03: Um but but there's hope related to action, and action breeds hope.
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: And that's what Water Week does.
- 10:40SPEAKER_03: It it inspires people, it shows people how each of us as individuals can make a difference.
- 10:45SPEAKER_03: And that's how collectively we're gonna clean up rivers and streams because that's how collectively they become impaired.
- 10:51SPEAKER_03: It's not pointing a finger at any one entity, it's all of us that have that responsibility.
- 10:56SPEAKER_03: And so if we all come together and take that responsibility and put the positive spin on it and do the right thing, things get better.
- 11:02SPEAKER_03: We know they get better.
- 11:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 11:03SPEAKER_03: We've got streams that are being delisted from the impaired list to unimpaired in this county uh because of that hard collaborative work.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's why Water Week first and foremost is a celebration, you know, to Keith's point.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: This isn't some, oh, you know, woe is us, you know, our streams and rivers are impaired, they're unhealthy, let's just focus on the negative.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: It's a celebration of this incredible resource that we all share that connects each and every one of us in the community in a, in a variety of ways.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: I mean, there are this year, this is our eighth year for Lancaster Water Week, there are over 60 events this year that are currently listed for people to take part in.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: And those events, you know, span a variety of organizations doing this work.
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: And I think that conservation community that that Keith, you know, just stated, it starts in the planning for Water Week.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: The second, you know, last year's Water Week wrapped up, we were already getting back together with all of those partners and dreaming up what's next.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: And I think in those moments where we're dreaming up what's next, when we're all coming together as multiple organizations that kind of usually work in our own different ways, you know, it's it's there's there's power in that.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: There's power in those organizations coming together and trying to figure out how to move the needle.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: And I think that translates to the community through all the events that are offered.
- 12:21SPEAKER_04: So I don't live in the city.
- 12:23SPEAKER_04: It's kind of unfamiliar territory for me.
- 12:25SPEAKER_04: So I don't actually personally like to go into the city.
- 12:28SPEAKER_04: So what would you say about folks that don't want to come into the city and still want to participate?
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: This is countywide.
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: This is definitely countywide.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: Um, but there, you know, is um, you know, there are a lot of events that take place in the city.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: There's, you know, um the monolith that that Keith mentioned that we'll we'll definitely get into because it's its own monolithic force uh during the week.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: Um but there are, you know, we'll be up at the Fowl Mouth area near Bainbridge, um, doing a hike along the Northwest River Trail, experiencing the history intersection with the wetlands there near our Falmouth Forest Garden, Konoi Wetlands Nature Preserve.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: Um, we've got uh the safe harbor dam tours that are going to be happening, you know, with with Brookfield, where you can go and experience and explore, you know, that dam and kind of see behind the scenes.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: And yes, at the same time, there's things happening in the city.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Um, this year, the city of Lancaster will be doing tours of their wastewater treatment plant, but they'll also be doing tours of their restored wetland at Long's Park.
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: And I think, again, there's just there's so many different ways to peek behind the curtain of what's happening in this county to clean up our streams and rivers and and what it means to, you know, use water as a resource as a community.
- 13:45SPEAKER_02: How would you recommend maybe an individual that's new to this, but also a business?
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: If a business wants to get engaged or wants to be understand what their role is in something like WaterGreek, what would you recommend?
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: You know, I think each um individual person comes to, you know, a topic like this from their own angle and their own interest.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: And I would say, you know, grab our brochure, go on the website and see what looks interesting to you.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: Not, you know, not everyone wants to get on the water and paddle, not everyone's curious, you know, about um, you know, stream ecology.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: But for some people, those things might be the gateway in.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: And everyone has their own kind of gateway in.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: My goodness, we offer a water week beer.
- 14:33SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, so if beer is your thing, you know, there's information on those beer cans about water week that will help draw you in because well, you really can't brew good beer without good water.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: So there's there is a way in for everyone.
- 14:46SPEAKER_00: And I would just say follow your own interests and passions to access this work.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: That's why there are 60 events.
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: You know, we recognize that Creek Stomps might attract some folks to this movement and getting outside with their families.
- 14:59SPEAKER_00: And, you know, at the same time, um, we'll also, you know, have these, you know, um, I'm trying to think what other events we've got on the list this year.
- 15:09SPEAKER_03: Um Well, Atlandis Homes is doing a more advanced tour of of uh stormwater best management practices, for example.
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 15:17SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 15:17SPEAKER_03: So more advanced level stuff.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be diving into invasive species management there this year.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: So, you know, let's say that's a really great event for property owners who are trying to tackle, you know, invasive species on their own property so that they can plant more native plants, which are very helpful in improving the quality of the water in our area.
- 15:36SPEAKER_03: Aaron Powell And then there's multiple uh opportunities to get on the water with Conestoga River Club.
- 15:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:42SPEAKER_03: That doesn't count, does it?
- 15:43SPEAKER_03: I said CRC.
- 15:44SPEAKER_03: You said it first.
- 15:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you actually explained what it stood for.
- 15:47SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 15:47SPEAKER_02: That and Project Clean Stream people.
- 15:50SPEAKER_02: Saturday.
- 15:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's just amazing.
- 15:51SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's an opportunity for people to take action on uh everything from um we have we have located an old dump that needs to get cleaned up at Kanoi to invasive species management along the river, which affects stream ecology negatively.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: Um, to you know, the typical trash cleanup, and that's distributed throughout the county, and it's such a great day of action.
- 16:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 16:11SPEAKER_04: You mentioned uh this is the eighth year of Langster Water Week.
- 16:16SPEAKER_04: How did it get started?
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: So this is the eighth year.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: I've been participating in helping, you know, I've been a part of the conservancy now for five years.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: So this will be I think this is actually gonna be my sixth water week.
- 16:26SPEAKER_03: I think this is my fourth.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, your fourth, my sixth water week.
- 16:29SPEAKER_03: Um, because you jumped in and like even before you started with the conservancy, I think.
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: Essentially.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: I so I was there for I think the second year of water week as a participant, and I actually have in my backyard now it's gotta be about 15 feet tall.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: A red bud tree that uh my partner and I, he put our little tiny red bud twig that we got from the green infrastructure bike tour.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: We biked it home.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: I got a picture of it sticking out of his backpack, and now it's 15 feet high, and it's um April right now, right?
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: So it is covered in blooms and gorgeous.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: And um, definitely moved it around a few times in our backyard.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: It still survives.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: So native plants are hardy, and um yeah, but that's that's you know what my first, you know, even before I got part of Water Week, it was uh just a really eye-opening experience for me as someone new to the county.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: But um, Lancaster Water Week was the idea of our current president and CEO, Fritz Schroeder, um, and his friend and our our one of our board members of the Conservancy uh Spike.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Um, he the two of them um would go out paddling, you know, as they were wanted to do on the Conestoga.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it just they were constantly trying to brainstorm like, what can we do?
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: You know, here we are in this county that has, you know, and Fritz would put it this way, has a bullseye on its back, right?
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: You know, here we are, the the largest contributor of, you know, sediment and nitrogen and phosphorus to the Chesapeake Bay.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: You know, we've got, you know, all of these different issues happening at the city level, which have lots of acronyms that I'm not going to state now at the municipal level.
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: Um, and, you know, I think for them it was, you know, all these negative kind of connotations are happening in the press.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: What can we do though?
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: Because there's so much incredible action that's happening too.
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: You know, uh Fritz was so connected to all the other organizations like the Alliance for the Chesapeake Bay that was doing work, Stroudwater Research Center, um, you know, like the conservation district here.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he saw the amazing work that was happening with the city of Lancaster and was like, how can we shine a spotlight on all the good that's happening and hopefully use that action that's already taken place to inspire more action and to grow awareness for the fact that first off, we have this incredible resource.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Second off, yes, it's impaired, it's unhealthy, but we can do something about it.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: And guess what?
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: We have a lot of organizations, we have a lot of businesses, we have a lot of religious organizations, um, a lot of individuals and volunteers who are passionate about this work and are doing something about this work.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: And so he brought together though that that community, you know, and one of uh the first sponsors actually to Waterweek was uh Landis Homes, Landis Communities.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I think they are just that perfect example of some of the work that's happening, you know, that this is not just something that a lot of nonprofit environmental organizations are working on, but it's something that there's a lot of, you know, for-profit organizations or, you know, just different companies across our county who really do deeply care about this issue as well.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Um, and, you know, during Water Week this year, you know, and the last several years, you can tour the work that they're doing on their Landis Homes campus, which is now this mature, beautiful wetland restoration with, you know, meadow restoration as well, and a woodland that's been completely, you know, healed from the invasive species that have taken it over.
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: So I think it, you know, it's a message of hope as well that we're trying to get out through Water Week.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: And so, yes, Water Week started out of a conversation while paddling, which I just think is absolutely, you know, perfect.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: It's that inception story that's uh right where it should be.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's continued to evolve.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: You know, the Water Week persisted through a pandemic and we pivoted and we were able to kind of change it then in a way that reached more people.
- 20:31SPEAKER_00: And then we continue to pivot, to open it up, to get more folks involved.
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: You know, we've gone from a handful of events to now over 60 events this year and more partners engaged and involved.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: And every year it continues to grow beyond, you know, even what we originally um imagined.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I think every year for the last few years, I've been surprised when Water Week rolls around and there's these events for Waterweek that we weren't even aware were happening because it's grown beyond what Lancaster Conservancy has kind of put forth.
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: It's it's taken on a life of its own.
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: And that's pretty special to recognize that something that was, you know, started has grown to that moment.
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: Well, and you really started that momentum and thus has grown to people that want to be part of a winning team.
- 21:18SPEAKER_02: They're seeing the progress, they want to be part of that success.
- 21:20SPEAKER_02: So you guys have driven that.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: Thank you for your leadership.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: No, it's um, it's really an honor to get to be a part of.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: I know I get to say honor and a privilege to be a part of something in your work that has such an impact and is so close to the values and things that are important to me.
- 21:37SPEAKER_02: Landis Homes has been such an inspiration for other places.
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: So the fact that they are part of Water Week, they're in that leadership role there, they really have inspired and have served as a mentor for additional communities, at least three, that we've been able to work with through Lynn Farrick and her role within the Conservancy.
- 21:52SPEAKER_02: So thank you again for continuing that um with Woodcrest Villa and Willow Valley and Homestead.
- 21:59SPEAKER_02: So amazing.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: How that inspiration keeps going.
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: It ripples out, right?
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: It does.
- 22:03SPEAKER_02: The ripple effect is so true.
- 22:06SPEAKER_04: You had mentioned the monolith.
- 22:08SPEAKER_04: Tell me about the monolith.
- 22:09SPEAKER_02: I want to know the stories.
- 22:12SPEAKER_03: So well, I'll start with the stories, and then you can give the background.
- 22:14SPEAKER_03: You want to give the background, I'll start the story.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: Um I'm trying to think even how you start with the story.
- 22:21SPEAKER_03: We wanted we wanted something that was like a visual art, public art in Penn Square that was very visible for Waterweek.
- 22:30SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, again, Spike Brandt is just this amazing event producer, uh also a board member, incredible creative mind.
- 22:38SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 22:39SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, the uh the Water Week team uh was it two years ago, I think, came up with the idea of the monolith um that would have, you know, a four s four sides that was, I don't know, 10, 12 feet tall.
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: Um that had different different things depicted on each of the panels about um our connection to clean water and what we can do.
- 22:56SPEAKER_03: And then we do a lot of plant giveaways as part of Waterweek.
- 23:00SPEAKER_03: Um, many, many tabling events where people come and get a free tree shrub because that's a direct connection to clean water.
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: Planting native stuff in our in our yards, in our landscapes directly relates to clean water because it reduces runoff.
- 23:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 23:13SPEAKER_03: Um and so, you know, we want to encourage those kinds of acting in addition to all the other benefits of planting native in terms of biodiversity, conservation, everything else.
- 23:21SPEAKER_03: And so we're like, well, let's just stock the monolith with with these tree and shrubs.
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: We wanted to make a really cool social media background at the time, right?
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: You know, like tag yourself, cool green wall.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: You know, it had a stream running through it.
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: So we put the plants in there to make a green wall.
- 23:37SPEAKER_03: And people took them all week long.
- 23:40SPEAKER_03: All week long, all night long night long.
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: So I'm downtown about one o'clock, not gonna say why.
- 23:48SPEAKER_03: And I'm watching, and I'm watching these people come out of a bar and they're staggering around, staggering a little bit.
- 23:52SPEAKER_03: It's okay, they're having a good time, not driving, right?
- 23:54SPEAKER_03: They're walking.
- 23:55SPEAKER_03: And they studied that monolith and they read each of the tags to figure out which tree or shrub would fit their yard.
- 24:02SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
- 24:03SPEAKER_03: So it wasn't like they're just walking by and grabbing it.
- 24:06SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
- 24:06SPEAKER_03: You know, which they certainly could have, but they were like, you know, I don't know, this like this, I don't know, this is crazy.
- 24:12SPEAKER_03: You know, so in other words, but really being being mindful and careful about picking the right plant.
- 24:17SPEAKER_03: So initially when I saw this, I'm like, oh, that plant's gonna die.
- 24:20SPEAKER_03: They're just gonna grab it and go, you know.
- 24:22SPEAKER_03: But then I'm like, well, no, because they put so much care into looking at what the site requirements were for each of the each of the species, you know, and it's just it's that idea that it that's it it's accessible to folks 24 hours a day for the duration of water week.
- 24:37SPEAKER_03: I mean, Fritz was out there every morning at like zero dark thirty, restocking it because it would just get, you know, every plant would get taken during the during the night, which is a great thing.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, we had the top row, and this is gosh, is it 15, 20 feet tall?
- 24:55SPEAKER_00: Someone took the plants along the top row.
- 24:57SPEAKER_00: We still don't know how.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: So I will say in year two and for year three, we have lowered where the plants are on the model for safety reasons.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: Now that we know that folks, you know, and we we changed our mindset, right?
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: This is the complete democratization of tree distribution and getting native plants into the hands of people who are gonna create change in action.
- 25:22SPEAKER_00: And I think what I love most about this is, you know, because circling back, like, why are we doing public art during conservation awareness week, like for water week, right?
- 25:33SPEAKER_00: But that's where the amazingness happens, right?
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: You know, it's you know, we had Spike Brandt and his company Nimbliss come together with Tate and Atomic, who had this really cool like product, you know, where we could build this monolith out of it.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: Um, we had this incredible, you know, designer, uh Libby Modern from Modern Art and Illustrator Austin Lorde, and all these, you know, kind of creative minds coming together, you know, from the art world to create real change and impact, you know, in our environment.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: And like there, there's just something so special about that, right in the heart in the intersection of downtown Lancaster.
- 26:08SPEAKER_00: And I think that just shows, you know, where that amazing kind of magic of Water Week happens.
- 26:15SPEAKER_00: It's your confluence.
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: It is the confluence.
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 26:20SPEAKER_04: It's it's neat to me that there are people from so many backgrounds that are, you know, just finding their niche in in participating in in Water Week.
- 26:31SPEAKER_03: So, you know, as a land trust, you know, what are we doing dabbling in in uh clean water stuff?
- 26:35SPEAKER_03: And and one of the reasons why we protect land is because it produces clean water.
- 26:40SPEAKER_03: Um, forested landscapes, uh grass landscapes, grassland, native grasslands, not lawns.
- 26:46SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, because the perception is this area was all eastern deciduous forest, pre-European settlement.
- 26:53SPEAKER_03: That's not actually accurate.
- 26:54SPEAKER_03: There were a lot of patches of of eastern prairie, of of native meadow here.
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: And if you look at the root zone depths of some of these plants, six foot, ten foot, twelve foot, they're sponges.
- 27:04SPEAKER_03: Just like the forest is a sponge for water.
- 27:06SPEAKER_03: And so when it rains, that water would go in instead of off.
- 27:09unknown: Right?
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: And that's one of the big problems that we have right now in terms of water quality.
- 27:12SPEAKER_03: It's all run off instead of uh infiltrating in.
- 27:15SPEAKER_02: Oh, I like that.
- 27:16SPEAKER_02: I haven't heard that in not off.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: And I've heard green infrastructure, not gray infrastructure, the filter, not the funnel.
- 27:24SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 27:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:24SPEAKER_02: Oh, I like the.
- 27:25SPEAKER_03: And um, and so you know, the 10,000 acres that we protected in our 54-year history do that.
- 27:31SPEAKER_03: It it allows that that rainwater to do what it did naturally before we develop land.
- 27:36SPEAKER_03: And and that's to soak back in.
- 27:38SPEAKER_03: There's got to be a runoff on the bigger events, obviously.
- 27:40SPEAKER_03: Let's that that water soak in.
- 27:42SPEAKER_03: And so there's multiple reasons why we protect land as a land trust.
- 27:45SPEAKER_03: And one of them is because of the ecosystem services that that protected land provides us free of charge, which includes stormwater management.
- 27:52SPEAKER_03: Um, and so there's a really obvious direct connection between land protection and clean water.
- 27:58SPEAKER_03: And I think Water Week just highlights that.
- 28:00SPEAKER_00: I mean, we know that only less than 15 percent of Lancaster County is forested.
- 28:06SPEAKER_00: And while we need to work on in you know, replanting those streamside forests on that 85 percent that isn't forested, we've still got 15 percent that is forested, but it's not all protected.
- 28:19SPEAKER_00: It's not guaranteed.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: And so the work that we do as a land trust or the conservancy is to make sure that that 15 percent doesn't shrink further.
- 28:29SPEAKER_02: Keep it growing.
- 28:31SPEAKER_03: That's that's really cool.
- 28:33SPEAKER_03: There's some real social stuff attached to this too.
- 28:35SPEAKER_03: Like like last year, I think it was the city that did the uh the river speaks series.
- 28:40SPEAKER_00: Oh, river connections.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: River connections.
- 28:43SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 28:43SPEAKER_03: You know, we forget about that piece, I think, sometimes as conservationists.
- 28:46SPEAKER_03: We forget about the social implications of these natural systems and how, you know, like specifically, because we're doing a lot of underground railroad work right now in terms of interpretation and how important river corridors were uh for the Underground Railroad.
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: Um and in a lot of ways, by protecting and restoring those river corridors, we're protecting and restoring that hidden history.
- 29:08SPEAKER_03: History, yeah, and not just bringing those stories out, right?
- 29:11SPEAKER_03: And telling that story is another piece of water week.
- 29:14SPEAKER_03: Right it's the societal implications of of the conservation work.
- 29:18SPEAKER_03: And what Kelly said, I agree with 100%, and I love it, is totally the democratization of conservation, right?
- 29:23SPEAKER_03: When I think about what can I do to save a mountain lion, not a whole lot as an individual, right?
- 29:29SPEAKER_03: They have a about 10,000 acre home range.
- 29:31SPEAKER_03: I don't have that kind of cash to go and buy 10 grand, 10,000 acres to set it aside.
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: Um, but man, I can plant a milkweed, and that milkweed plant, one plant, will support a half a dozen monarch caterpillars, and monarchs just had a 50% reduction in their population last year.
- 29:47SPEAKER_03: 50% reduction in a year.
- 29:50SPEAKER_03: Now that's a multifaceted problem, and it's not only be only because of stuff on our end, they're a migratory species.
- 29:55SPEAKER_03: Every time you get a migratory species, it becomes really complicated.
- 29:58SPEAKER_03: But we know for a fact that part of the driver on that is the loss of milkweed here because of a shift in agricultural practices.
- 30:03unknown: Right.
- 30:04SPEAKER_03: We've got Roundup Ready corn, farmers can spray year-round, and so when that milkweed was growing in the farm field margins, it's not anymore.
- 30:12SPEAKER_03: And so my one milkweed plant on the patio of my rental can make a real difference in that organism.
- 30:18SPEAKER_03: And that's the democratization, right?
- 30:20SPEAKER_03: So the monolith is embodies that.
- 30:22SPEAKER_03: Instead of being, oh, we can't just let these plants out there because people are going to do crazy things with them, just gonna steal them.
- 30:28SPEAKER_03: We're like, no, let's embrace the idea of people taking these plants because that's what they're there for.
- 30:33SPEAKER_03: You know, and so instead of kind of keeping that tight and regulated, we're like, no, come on and get them.
- 30:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know.
- 30:38SPEAKER_02: What are some of the stories?
- 30:40SPEAKER_02: I love the example you gave of the history component to it and making those stories of people's ancestors, people's history and cultural elements that maybe they didn't hadn't connected with before.
- 30:50SPEAKER_02: That Water Week makes that more accessible.
- 30:53SPEAKER_02: What are some of the stories that you've experienced or heard after things like the events of Water Week?
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: So I was at uh I climbers run, and um there's a young family up on the porch of the barn, and they look there the like I I live in the house at Climbers, and so I'm watching this from the deck and they look a little confused, like they don't look like they know where they're going.
- 31:15SPEAKER_03: And um so I start hiking up to engage them and see if they need any help to point out trails.
- 31:21SPEAKER_03: And and uh this this young young kid, I don't know, might have been a fifth or fifth grader, gets real excited when I get closer and closer, and he's jumping up and down, he's jumping up and down, he's all happy.
- 31:31SPEAKER_03: And and I get up there and his mom says, uh, yeah, he was on one of your water week events and he said, We can't go anywhere until we see the guy.
- 31:39SPEAKER_03: Oh and so he came out from a freestomp, right?
- 31:43SPEAKER_03: And then he brought his whole family.
- 31:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:44SPEAKER_03: So that's the big thing.
- 31:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 31:46SPEAKER_03: Um and and they were a uh they were a family who traditionally did not go out in nature.
- 31:52SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 31:54SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 31:54SPEAKER_03: And Climbers Rome is the perfect place for them to go because that's that preserve is geared towards towards exactly folks that maybe don't feel comfortable in nature, maybe aren't used to being in nature.
- 32:04SPEAKER_03: It's got well, not that our brother preserves don't, but it's got really well-marked trails.
- 32:10SPEAKER_03: They're easy.
- 32:11SPEAKER_03: Um, for all experience levels, it's got the barn, it's got infrastructure, um, you know, ample parking and things like that.
- 32:16SPEAKER_03: And that just made me real happy to know that that this this young man um was inspired enough during one of our water week events to want to bring his family back outside.
- 32:25SPEAKER_04: Great story.
- 32:27SPEAKER_04: For each of you, what is your favorite part of Water Week?
- 32:31SPEAKER_03: The end.
- 32:32SPEAKER_03: Because it's an exhausting week.
- 32:33SPEAKER_03: It's an amazing week, right?
- 32:35SPEAKER_03: But we're running, we're running non-stop, which is a great problem to have.
- 32:39SPEAKER_03: And it's 60 events, not that all 60 are ours because it's not all they're not all conservancy events, but the coordination of all that is is a lot of work.
- 32:47SPEAKER_03: Um, but it's kind of like this this really happy exhaustion that happens.
- 32:51SPEAKER_03: It's not drudgery or anything like that.
- 32:53SPEAKER_03: You know, it's just really an incredible thing.
- 32:54SPEAKER_03: I really think that for me, I you know, it's so hard to tell to say because we have so such a wide variety of programs.
- 33:02SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, everything from paddles to bike rides to more formal lectures to concerts, and the list goes on.
- 33:09SPEAKER_03: I think it's the Saturday cleanups.
- 33:11SPEAKER_03: I'm really heavily involved in that, so that's my bias.
- 33:14SPEAKER_03: Um, but I just love seeing people come outside who, again, typically don't go outside, typically don't participate in a cleanup and get in there and do their part and seeing the inspiration that comes from that and seeing the hope that comes from that.
- 33:29SPEAKER_03: Because again, we can you choose how you want to look at the world, right?
- 33:32SPEAKER_03: I can choose to look at the world from a hopeless lens because of all the negative stuff that's going on, or I can choose to look at the world through a positive lens because of the things that I can make a change, right?
- 33:41SPEAKER_03: So I have to look at my locus of control, what can I do?
- 33:44SPEAKER_03: And if I act on that locus of control, that makes a difference.
- 33:46SPEAKER_03: And it makes a real difference here locally.
- 33:48SPEAKER_03: And that's where it all starts.
- 33:49SPEAKER_03: And I I see that happen at every cleanup that I go to on that Saturday.
- 33:54SPEAKER_03: And there's multiples.
- 33:55SPEAKER_03: I mean, we've got, I think, over a dozen different locations.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Alliance does, the Alliance for the Chesapeake Bay does a fantastic.
- 34:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of coordinating all that.
- 34:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, different municipalities, again, across the county.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: And you know, some sites have opportunities for young families to get involved.
- 34:11SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, for you know, older adults, yeah, there's there's sometimes when you're getting in the river and you're pulling out huge tires.
- 34:18SPEAKER_00: But you know, I I remember, I think it was last year we had, you know, this young, young girl who was, you know, going through my goodness, she was going through the burn hazel.
- 34:27SPEAKER_00: Let's just say the uh riparian buffers aren't always, you know, in our in our in our streamside forests, aren't always um the easiest things to walk through to collect trash.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: And she, you know, she was just up to her waist in burn hazel and she was just taking it like a champion.
- 34:46SPEAKER_00: I, you know, and we got her some uh was it jewel weed afterwards, Keith.
- 34:50SPEAKER_00: You were able to like be like this, this plant will help with the burn.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: But she was just like, and she just went right back in and started collecting more trash.
- 34:56SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's all ages and all passions.
- 34:58SPEAKER_00: So um hopefully we'll avoid the burning subs here.
- 35:02SPEAKER_04: And there's your EMT background button.gov play.
- 35:04SPEAKER_04: Right on it.
- 35:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's always great to have Keith on those.
- 35:06SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the Alliance of Chesapeake Day does a great job coordinating that.
- 35:11SPEAKER_04: So we have come now to my uh, I guess my favorite part of the show.
- 35:18SPEAKER_04: We're gonna do trivia.
- 35:20SPEAKER_04: And uh because we're talking about Water Week, and we are going to talk a little bit more about the events, some of the events that are coming up in Water Week and kind of relate trivia to those.
- 35:32SPEAKER_04: So be ready.
- 35:36SPEAKER_04: Kelly, you look a little nervous.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: I am nervous.
- 35:39SPEAKER_00: I'm glad Keith is here.
- 35:41SPEAKER_04: Hope I remember.
- 35:42SPEAKER_04: Well, you guys can work together on these.
- 35:45SPEAKER_04: So um I think you'll get the theme after a couple of questions here.
- 35:49SPEAKER_04: So one of the iconic images of Water Week is the monolith that we talked about in Penn Square.
- 35:54SPEAKER_04: What is the name of the statue in the middle of Penn Square?
- 36:00SPEAKER_00: Is it like the Sailor and Soldier?
- 36:04SPEAKER_00: Keep going, keep going.
- 36:05SPEAKER_00: Um Memorial.
- 36:08SPEAKER_04: Close enough.
- 36:09SPEAKER_04: Yep, yep.
- 36:10SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the Soldiers and Sailors Monument.
- 36:13SPEAKER_04: Monument.
- 36:15SPEAKER_04: Nice.
- 36:16SPEAKER_04: That one's under the wind column.
- 36:18SPEAKER_04: Conestoga River Club, as you mentioned, is hosting Conestoga River paddles throughout the week.
- 36:23SPEAKER_04: This one's a tough one.
- 36:25SPEAKER_04: The word kayak translates from Greenlandic.
- 36:28SPEAKER_04: Yes, that's an actual language.
- 36:29SPEAKER_04: I did not, I was not aware of that.
- 36:31SPEAKER_04: Uh, it translates from Greenlandic as what?
- 36:36SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 36:38SPEAKER_03: I want to say skin covered boat, but I don't know if that's accurate.
- 36:41SPEAKER_04: It's pretty close.
- 36:43SPEAKER_04: Well, you know what?
- 36:43SPEAKER_04: I'll give that one to you too.
- 36:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 36:45SPEAKER_04: It literally translates to man boat or hunter's boat.
- 36:48unknown: Okay.
- 36:49SPEAKER_04: So, yeah.
- 36:50SPEAKER_04: I actually probably would have given it to you if you just said boat, to be honest with you.
- 36:56SPEAKER_04: On Saturday, June 8th, there is a creek stomp at Climber's Run Nature Center.
- 37:02SPEAKER_04: The farm that originally stood on the property was dedicated in the 1960s by the Snyder family to what Lancaster Club?
- 37:10SPEAKER_03: A Boys and Girls Club.
- 37:11SPEAKER_03: That is cool.
- 37:13SPEAKER_04: I'm loving it.
- 37:14SPEAKER_04: On Sunday, June 9th, you can tour the wetlands at Long's Park and enjoy the summer music series.
- 37:21SPEAKER_04: Uh, how many years has the Longs Park Amphitheater been hosting music concerts?
- 37:25SPEAKER_00: Oh, they just celebrated uh big anniversary last year, didn't they?
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: 20?
- 37:31SPEAKER_00: 50?
- 37:33SPEAKER_00: 62.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: They started in 1962, isn't that something?
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: They're such great partners.
- 37:40SPEAKER_00: It's an amazing resource for our community to have free music.
- 37:42SPEAKER_04: Oh, and some of those concerts are so amazing.
- 37:45SPEAKER_04: Oh, they they bring in some good acts.
- 37:46SPEAKER_04: They really do.
- 37:47SPEAKER_04: So on Monday, June 10th, there is a guided hike on the Sunnyside Peninsula.
- 37:53SPEAKER_04: According to traditional lore, what was this area used for prior to the Great Depression?
- 38:00SPEAKER_03: Was this legal or illegal?
- 38:02SPEAKER_04: It was legal, yes.
- 38:05SPEAKER_02: People wanted to get away during a certain season.
- 38:08SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:09SPEAKER_03: So it was a summer retreat.
- 38:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:11SPEAKER_04: It was a summer, a charming summer retreat similar to Mount Gretna today.
- 38:16SPEAKER_03: So I was going to say moonshine.
- 38:18SPEAKER_04: That's where I figured you were going.
- 38:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 38:21SPEAKER_04: Maybe later.
- 38:22SPEAKER_04: Um, because it did it then did after the Great Depression turn into kind of a shanty town.
- 38:27SPEAKER_04: And yeah.
- 38:28SPEAKER_04: Well, that is all of the time we have in episode one.
- 38:31SPEAKER_04: We will be back in two weeks to hear more about events and behind the scenes that go into putting water week together.
- 38:41SPEAKER_04: It's a fascinating conversation you're not going to want to miss.
- 38:44SPEAKER_04: Until then, take care.