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Keyforge OP VS Lorcana OP · Archons Corner

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  So trums came in. You see that coming to my head? Can't tell
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  me now I'm gonna taste of fame. Ine bum my stomach like I don't
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  puny, whit my face, crean o my bunny. Oh see, trying
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  to push my buttons. I said, don't touch it now, y'all done
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  it. I can be critical, never difficult. You went for syllable,
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  a criminal politic, pretty miserable even if you waited. I'll make you feel
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  like you're in it. Don't you call me what you want to, but
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  never call me forgettable? But what's going on? Everybody? I am the
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  one, the only, the w oh okay? I you joined here with
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  the normal cast investments. We have slow walk himself he walked he key community.
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  Slow it down. You're getting a little fast. Wow. I haven't
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  gone to time since first round of Lorcana where I played someone who So there
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  there's no there's no slow walk in here. We'll get you're saying you haven't
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  gone to time since day? Is that what you're saying was Saturday? What
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  what happened in your game on Tuesday night? Oh? Yeah, you went
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  perfect, I believe me and Dan got two games in while you and mister
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  perfect play. No, actually I went we didn't set a time or he
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  didn't actually go to time. Yeah, he just used he just used seventy
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  three minutes for one game. Yea infinite time. Hey, you play within
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  the parameters. I believe you said. If you're not cheating, you're not
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  winning. So there you go. If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
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  You don't have to don't have to get all the KEYFDE time in one
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  game. No, it is all about spending your key time. It is
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  all about spending key forards with those that you care about in your KeyForge community.
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  Show that love and play as many games and as long as you want.
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  And speaking of as many games as playing as long as you want and
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  not as long as I want. All right, let's get onto the smoke
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  show. Dazcors intro yo, yo, he's here. I has heard him
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  and our resident PhD doctor sheet Hello. All right, you're not grumpy this
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  week? Oh my goodness? What happened? Were all the good news we
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  got to you before my introduction? I'm already in a good mood. There
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  we go. It's all about going ahead and apparently belittling your your co hosts
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  and your friends. So do you not know this? Where have you been?
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  Are you not a part of this key forge? Oh? Okay speaking,
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  I thought you do what we did around here? This is all this
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  is, this is what mainly this show is about. Lookie, it is
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  a little little stiff. See. I played three games and I was literally
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  sitting there in thirty seconds with the judge waiting three minutes for my opponent.
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  And because there's no game floor rules like, uh, sir, you're gonna
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  have to speed it up. And his response was, this is a really
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  true key tricky play, and then he took another minute and a half.
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  Lookie, how many games did you get through with the same individual because we
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  both got a chance to play. I only had to go to and you
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  almost went to time. Man, I almost went to time with the two
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  because so there you go, friends, three myths. That was impressive.
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  So if you're wondering what we're what we're talking about, mister Ewok and I
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  went to a Larkana event this weekend just to kind of well, we did
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  some scouting. We did some scouting. We also were trying to win some
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  money, but we did scouting for the main part. We actually do feel
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  that like we learned some things this weekend. Now we learned uh slow walk
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  slow, Well, we already knew that. I can't, you know,
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  I can't. I played the same person. I can't. I can't knock
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  him for it because it was painful that. I mean, if you're trying
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  to get all your lacana time got why wait? Why hold on? We've
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  got Why are we talking about this? We've got so many exciting things to
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  talk about, we do, but there's some really important things that actually with
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  some scouting information we want to be able to take away. Sometimes you need
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  to be able to take a quick break from your true love to see is
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  it really real and going to Some of us don't have to wander to know
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  we already have it good well, But but others of us still are curious,
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  and curiosity will go out and take your heart. So we went ahead
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  and we've ventured out. Doesn't listen to this. My wife and I are
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  very very secure. That's this. There's a difference between a game and a
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  spouse here, my friend. But so with the with the Lorcano events and
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  Keyforde, I think that it did give me some more insight that Gigi honestly
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  is doing a lot that is very very good for their tournament series, and
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  by that I'm talking about Vault Tours and their larger events KFC Vaults. I
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  personally had a lot that I reflected on afterwards and go all right, this
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  is a really, really big success. I think they're very transparent about their
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  cost. I think that's well stated. I think they could go ahead and
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  put out the information earlier. Still waiting on that, but they are clear.
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  I think the price point is very very well done. The price point
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  at the end of the weekend for US came in closer to one hundred and
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  forty cars correct, so that was something that was there. It was more
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  than one and forty one hundred and sixty bucks. I think the price I
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  think the price point for Gigi is is very well done. We did go
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  ahead and get decks and then we got a matts and we got sleeves.
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  I actually liked the sleeves. The sleeves were cheaper sleeves, but it did
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  give it did give us somethings were hot garbage, yes, but they were
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  probably the worst sleep I mean, those are there. Those are cheap Ultra
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  pros, which are still better than the game genic ones that have key Ford
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  but they're okay. So it's they're bad in different ways. So the game
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  genic ones were just they had hard corners. These are like they're con right,
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  but at least they hold together right, like they don't split. Yeah,
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  I mean I still have ones that I originally bought in gen Con what
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  four years ago, and they're holding up just fine. They still they still
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  will cut me. It just played you on Tuesday. Shoot, they still
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  will cut those. You're correct, they didn't use those. They still will
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  cut you. But at least they're holding up. These. I got some
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  that are splitting already and we only played six. Well it's the best of
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  three, so you're playing whatever eighteen games or whatever. Regardless that they were,
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  they were hot trash. You got a matt that literally which is hot
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  trash. It had the name of the company. Like it wasn't even like
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  Lore commerelated or just cool looking. It literally was black and had the logo
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  of the company running the event on It was that company again back World games
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  Wide, Dames Worlds Yeah, world class. Now why I say that the
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  card sleeves actually were interesting to me because some people come in and you're worried
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  about getting a new pair of sleeves. Okay, do I have it.
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  I still think that that's something that as they come preparing for a larger event,
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  I want to have new sleeves from my deck. But not everyone,
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  not every thinks that. I thought it was a nice takeaway. Why would
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  you be sleeping with the sleeves you got there and not with the good sleeves
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  you bought before you went, So you I don't get it. I'm saying
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  that sheet because not everyone comes prepared. So it was something that it put
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  everyone at that what I'm telling you, not everyone has sleeves, and so
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  that's that was It was a nice component that was there. What I actually
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  think that Gigi does a very nice job with is that you have a more
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  key Forge themed mat that you're getting and honestly showing up. You have a
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  nice little prize box that's there. It's a little bag that has items for
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  you, and I really like that aspect for gg So for me, that
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  was a big takeaway. Their organization of the event, I thought that I
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  actually liked. I liked the Lorkana announcements before the game started. Before the
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  tournament started, here's our rules, here's our expectations. I kind of missed
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  a shout out to Dunk, and I missed Dunk and going ahead and kind
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  of controlling the room and making sure everyone's on the same page. I think
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  that could be done a little bit better. But Gigs they had a lot
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  that was really nicely done. The event itself, the presentation that was there,
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  they had the speaker that was there, Like, these were nice components.
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  I really liked the price point and I liked that it was open to
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  us. So those are big takeaways for me to be fair. So we
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  went to an event. We thought we were signing up for one hundred and
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  ten dollars for a weekend lore Con event. We were going to play in
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  a sealed event on Saturday with a cut to top eight and then a sealed
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  event. Now it was nice to know it was just cut to top eight.
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  Now they do that now, but years pass it didn't in KeyForge.
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  And then we thought we were also going to come back for Sunday for a
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  cut constructed event cut to top eight. So lo and behold, you know,
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  we play our games. We're done. We're going to go sign up
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  for tomorrow to find out that oh, there's an additional fifty dollars charge if
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  you want to play and constructed tomorrow. Now, ultimately I was fine with
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  it either way. But Ewok's decision was because I had bought so many cards
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  to play in this event that we were going to play. I just I
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  don't I don't. I don't like having the rug pulled out from under me
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  where all of sudden you're going to change and in the event said you're going
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  to pay one hundred and eight for a week it's card for a weekend event
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  and then afterwards a change. So that that bothered me, all right,
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  so, uh, key Forge better. Hey, you guys want to talk
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  about keyford Yes, well, Transcort, calm down, bruh Okay, she's
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  the weird so yes, so well. And the thing we're trying to say
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  right now is that there are things that key Forde does very very very well
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  that we need to go ahead. Number one, we need to give them
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  the pat on the back, because, to be fair, we've trashed them
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  on the old p side for quite some time, so we're giving some kudos,
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  right right. I'm glad we could all agree anyways. Yes, so
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  there are things that like sometimes you know, for the people out there,
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  like maybe the grass is greener on the other side. Maybe sometimes you get
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  kicked in the crotch, you know, like and I felt like this weekend
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  was a big kick in the crotch. It was like, Wow, this
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  was for being a keith Ors for so long, it kind of was.
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  It was like, Oh, this is not what I expected. And I
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  come in having a certain expectation. That expectation's not there. There's hidden fees,
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  hidden costs, all these different things, and then you're like, wow,
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  this does make me kind of yearn to just go back to a GG
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  event. Yes, I think the other thing we always talk about the community.
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  And while I'm a very large part of the key forge community and I
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  know a number of individuals, I feel that we do a nice job at
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  being able to incorporate others when I see someone who is not in a group,
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  and I think this is important for us to be able to do,
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  and so I encourage as we go into that, Well, we have the
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  first one that's announced, Please continue to reach out, include others, welcome.
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  The Keyfoard community has been amazing at being able to incorporate someone who's in
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  come and play with us. Come over here, Hey, who are you
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  and just talking shop. As an introvert, it's very very difficult for someone
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  like me to be able to just go up and randomly start talking to people.
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  That's not something that I feel comfortable with. Then, frankly, it
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  zapp's a lot of energy from me, and so I want to encourage again
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  our community to keep going with that. That that was a big takeaway.
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  Yeah, Now there are a few things that we thought maybe are able to
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  incorporate some of the things that were there were They ran two events. One
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  was a sealed one was a constructed, but both at the end the prize
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  was to win a box. We thought that was something that you know,
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  hey, these would definitely maybe something we should maybe look at a key forge
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  as opposed to go place sealed in win a deck. Maybe go place sealed
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  in win a box. Perfect, glad, everybody's on board. I you,
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  I mean there there's right. So I think pods, right, you
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  know, I don't know if one deck is the is the right answer.
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  But it also shouldn't be like a massive prize. But I think for main
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  events, right, you do want there to be big prizes, right,
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  You get a bunch of decks you get like a cool thing you get.
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  You know, you can get your deck that you did well with in but
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  in reality, oil or a special treatment or something. Right, that's what's
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  a box? It's nothing? Right? What do you mean a box isn't
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  nothing? It's like ninety dollars, right, but does that plastic ninety dollars?
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  I mean they're running their own events. Well, I mean it's more
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  than that, but it's like, well it's less to them, it's more
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  than us, right, like right, but yeah, if they're not making
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  money off of them, they're not going to do it. Correct, surprising
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  if you could, you know, and you're hoping to make money for the
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  event, right, But what's the big deal here? It makes the it
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  makes memorable. Oh I went into a sealed pod. I want a box
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  of grim or mind, you're not going to do it at a money loss,
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  just a quick man, I don't know. Eight decks there plus twelve
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  in a box? Right, So an eight player pod plus twelve more decks
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  is a box. If you were to do standard retail, you're talking and
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  this is off thirteen dollars a pack and talk about that later. Thirteen dollars
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  a deck you're talking they would be charging eighteen to twenty dollars to enter that
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  event. Yeah, so the sealed events that was there for Lorcana was running.
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  You're constructed at twenty five and is sealed at forty five, So those
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  are different price points that you have a few more boosters in there at twenty
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  four. But it was something else to be able to think about, and
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  I brought it to the local. Would that be something of interest to you?
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  Would you go out and play just a standard eight pot, a sealed
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  pod of eight for your your fifteen bucks basically to get in or would you
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  go ahead and prefer to have a chance to win a box if you go
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  ahead and put it at thirty five, it's an interesting proposition. Again,
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  the idea is just to spur some interest in the group and the overall key
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  for community. What's really there and going ahead and drawing you I think as
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  long as we're clearly commuting the prize point and the price point, that is
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  what is going to be important to me. I did not like going ahead
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  and just having a change in how I'm reading something and understanding it. I
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  don't mind as long as the price has been listed and Gig's done that for
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  us. They've told us, here's what the cost is for the weekend for
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  your event, So I think they did a nice job on it. I
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  did just click around through the world Class card stuff, and when you click
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  on to the event for your constructed it was clearly forty dollars extra. Well,
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  but you clicked onto the constructed tournament, yes, so clear that was
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  forty dollars extra. So I imagine they only gave you the link to this
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  concealed and that does say for the weekend. It is a little confusing,
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  so the sealed was all that was there. Actually, I didn't even see
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  the constructed until after when we went to pay for the second event, and
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  they had been changing, like they also changed the time, so they're like,
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  we're going to go ahead and just push back the start time too.
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  We don't have any players, so like, those are sorts of things where
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  they were creating things behind the scenes, and that at least I didn't see
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  happen again with GJ So that was nice and I appreciate it. So I
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  want to go ahead and say thank you, because honestly, we can be
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  hard at times, but I need us to be able to go ahead and
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  take away some positives. Gig is doing a lot that is really good for
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  us, and oftentimes if you haven't been to outside events in a while,
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  maybe you've forgotten that. I will go ahead and say one thing that I
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  thought that the event did, really really nice, that I would like to
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  see is more of a fellowship award. They went ahead, it add little
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  tickets and they pulled ten people. Now we had fifty. We had fifty
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  there on Saturday, and on Sunday it was it was fifty four and then
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  on Sunday it was forty some. But they pulled ten tickets. They gave
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  away boosters that were German boosters, and that went to everyone. It was
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  open to all, so you didn't have to necessarily win anything be in the
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  top so many in order to get a ticket. I like that sort of
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  thing where we're giving prizes out to the general public. And maybe that's something
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  where we just pull some different items that might be on a Vault tour wall
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  or some of the prizes that we have, or just something that's created for
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  the Vaults that you can go out and say, here's ten random people or
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  whatever the amount is. You feel really good at when your ticket is called,
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  or you're looking at it, you're like, oh, I was one
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  away, and that's something that as a fellowship, I'd love to be able
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  to see. I would even take it a step further. I'd love to
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  see if you take a loss in the tournament because of the two l maybe
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  you get an extra ticket and so your chances are increased. Because, to
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  be honest, I want my people who aren't necessarily having the best luck and
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  you're a little bit down on yourself, I want them to be able to
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  walk away. That would be my way if I had an impact for Gigi,
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  I would say, let's try and increase their probability of walking away with
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  something. All right. So with that being said, we're going to move
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  into Keyfarge now because everybody's yawning. So, yeah, you see, I
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  updated the sheet with mine saying, hey, this is a key Forge topic.
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  We get you thought we were being nice, jeez, I don't know.
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  I know, being nice and trying to give a compliment and also try
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  and encourage what needs to stay and how we can add it. I'm sorry
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  for that. Yeah, are bad, damn all right, but we do
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  need to give up grim Reminders is out yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
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  right. Yeah, So make sure you make sure you head over to the
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  Patreon so you can get your GRIM reminder, get your your tokens. I
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  don't what do they call it a deck or drop? Better do cards?
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  What do we call Yeah? For your Z score? Yeah, coming get
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  us because you can get a Z score now and actually see how your GR
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  decks are basically ranked. And I'm pretty sure there's nowhere else that has done
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  that at this point. So nowhere else, just us. Way to go,
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  SUTHERLYZ did all that, Z did all the hard work. Suddenly did
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  all the other hard work. We did none of them. We did none
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  of it. I mean we watched you know, I think I play.
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  I have provided encouragement. Yeah, moral support, Yeah, some moral support
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  as well. I'm sure it is that too, And that's what's get it
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  done faster mm hmm. Yeah, I mean that's well. I mean,
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  this is this is good news. So Gigi did can can we say deliver
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  on time with the timing for GR and so with it being i mean we're
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  seeing shipments that are making to international countries, we're seeing it here in the
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  States, so it is a lot better timed versus having it spread out again,
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  I think that's an awesome component, and people are super excited, both
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  from the locals and on the online community. So I love seeing that.
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  But maybe others aren't in the community because they weren't necessarily up and ready to
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  go with those scores. So go get your Z score. It is ready
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  and up, and it's one way to be able to try your decks and
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  to see what's good. But again, play those decks have some fun.
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  Now. Scores are like the numbers coming out in some of these Grim Reminders
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  decks. I mean there's some big numbers. Isn't highest number now a GR
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  deck? Yeah, So if I go to all decks, the top one,
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  two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine,
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  ten, the top ten for all Grim Reminders right now, so Z likes
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  GR a lot, although he's expecting some adjustments I'm sure the future as we
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  get to actually play. Right. Oh, but there's probably no real good
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  decks that are on that list that would be compared. They're all bad.
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  I mean, pink Jackets no longer and the you have to scroll be on
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  the fold to get to pink Jackets. That would definitely more. Yeah,
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  definitely, I mean, I mean it's totally sarcasm. But please know that
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  there are some gauntlet decks, some well known decks in the field that people
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  will talk about, and we have those as comparisons. It is not just
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  gr it's not just Whoe. There's some there's some really interesting decks that are
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  out there and some big scores. Right now, I mean pink Jacket,
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  which is a one for had a good deck in his name's favorite. Yeah,
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  oh yeah, Frozen to the Nun Barber. That's pretty good because two
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  really good decks. Nuns Nuns, uh the Barbers. That's a one forty
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  five right now, all right, yeah, slow what's that one? Yeah,
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  I got slow Lock slows a one forty so just as good as pink
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  Jacket. So that was slow Walk Slow Deck. Very excited about this,
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  he's very excited to play that a vault Tour against Oh yeah, as long
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  as he goes to the time, then he can go ahead and harass me
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  for going to time, even though it's gonna be his fault. I'm just
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  gonna join a game with E Walk and t CL and then we're gonna be
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  at the screen where it's like, you know, do you want a mulligan?
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  Or not. I'm just gonna type thinking three hours later. With that
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  being said, did deliver us a bit of sad news? And and dras
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  Corps? What what news did we get? Sad? I don't know.
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  I'm opening decks, I'm playing these things. That's what you're talking about.
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  We need to take a moment of silence, take a moment. All right.
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  I wasn't picking up what you were putting down. All right, now
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  I got it. Okay, we're all off and nobody can get it back
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  on track. I mean in honor of the greatest number one all time.
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  Yeah, number one, uh top the list, uh many many uh eons
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  in a row. Janet. So I got myself a Janet deck. It
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  is, uh, you know Janet Comma best of GG. Right, that's
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  that's that's what I wanted. And uh the algorithm revealed something of great sorrow
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  and importance to us in the whole community. So the deck is Janet best
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  of GG the mythic widowed, oh or Janet mythically widowed? And can you
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  believe her co workers said you should send pizza instead of flowers for condolences?
• 24:11
  Yes, she works with I mean, listen, if it's a Saint.
• 24:18
  If my wife dies and people want to send me pizza, I don't know
• 24:22
  if I'm angry at that, I don't. I don't know, Like it's
• 24:25
  hard to be angry at that, right would you like the pepper ROTI or
• 24:30
  the sausage bouquet? So exactly, John don't know if I could be angry
• 24:33
  Josh when you say Janet loves pizza? Is there a specific type of pizza?
• 24:38
  I was not Josh who the pizza? It's right here in our AC
• 24:42
  live shows. He is, He's coming through. And so I mean,
• 24:48
  if you're really maybe it really does like pizza, because that's two different people
• 24:52
  have said it now from that, But to be fair, who doesn't like
• 24:56
  pizza? Apple and green olive? Wow? Yeah yeah, it's black olives
• 25:03
  not green owlves. But otherwise you're onto a good pizza. There do people
• 25:07
  put green olives on pizza? I mean, I think jos is just picking
• 25:10
  something that only he will eat and he's gonna wave it in front of gs
• 25:14
  I's face. Number one is my son has told me many times pineapple does
• 25:18
  not go on pizza. I will eat that pizza. I mean, I'm
• 25:22
  okay with it. Is this my father in law thinks it's like blasphemy.
• 25:27
  I'm like, now, the only true blasphemy is Alliance. But you know,
• 25:30
  I'll eat Pineapple is a green olive and pineapple the pizza from the first
• 25:36
  Deadpool? Oh, is it? I believe it is? That could be
• 25:41
  it might just be a pineapple on olive, sweet and salty. Well,
• 25:45
  if you're not going with sauerkraut and Canadian bacon, it's just missing out in
• 25:48
  people that now that we felt bad for Janet, we're back to drawbetter dot
• 25:55
  cars. I just gotta say JML MTL sucks is also a one thirty two.
• 26:00
  Wow. There are some fires. Oh, they kicked up the name
• 26:04
  that I might we might have to get more pledges next year for the fire
• 26:07
  named decks. You gotta hit load. You know, I have to check
• 26:11
  what the best draz court deck is. Let's say, well it is is
• 26:18
  that really what we want to kind of look at because you know, the
• 26:21
  game found campaign in retrospect with today's news may being that we should be buying
• 26:26
  more from the GG campaign a game Fountain campaign, but I think it puts
• 26:33
  a bigger predicament for our local stores, which we also want to support.
• 26:37
  Shall we dig into some other news outside of what was the news on the
• 26:41
  storefront. Well, on the storefront, Asthma Day is well behind the times
• 26:49
  and everything, but they have started to ask about some pre orders and stuff,
• 26:53
  and we hear that decks are going up to fourteen ninety nine. So
• 26:57
  the twelve ninety nine cost or price MSRP that was advertised across the game found
• 27:06
  appears to have crept to fourteen ninety nine for generally general release retail. Now,
• 27:15
  I'm pretty sure if your store bought the game found bundles, the game
• 27:22
  Found Backer bundles, those are still priced. They got those at the prices
• 27:26
  that were a little bit lower. But any standard retail grim reminders is going
• 27:33
  to be more fourteen in ninety nine. So we went from here nine ninety
• 27:38
  nine to twelve ninety nine to fourteen ninety nine in a year. What do
• 27:45
  you guys think? M Well, I mean, inflation was at three point
• 27:49
  four percent in twenty twenty three, all right, so ninety nine times point
• 27:57
  oops the consumer, So that would mean it goes up by forty four cents.
• 28:07
  Yeah, so that's you're it's the cost of ctp's boat went up by
• 28:17
  that number, by the number of decks that are sold. Well, you
• 28:19
  know it's really expensive to get green olives instead of black olives on your pizza.
• 28:25
  So I think that's that's suppost be I. You know, as I
• 28:29
  sit here and think about it, from my early days of key Forge,
• 28:34
  where I bought boxes and correct boxes, it it's not nice right to think
• 28:41
  how much more of boxes? But now that I mean, like the number
• 28:47
  of winds of exchange decks I actually opened is significantly less than every other set,
• 28:51
  because I am now just the way I enjoy playing key Forge and how
• 28:55
  I do things like I don't open a deck unless I'm playing the deck.
• 28:59
  And fifteen dollars for a n of memories and experience and probably going home with
• 29:07
  nothing of actual value. I mean, that's still movie theater, bri.
• 29:12
  It's like you go to a movie theater. Now they're fourteen seventy five or
• 29:17
  something. It's way more than that. Movie tickets are expensive now, right,
• 29:22
  and you come home from nothing from that but an experience. So this
• 29:25
  is in that realm, and that's where I've always I've always generally felt like
• 29:30
  key Ford's money was thrown away. Yeah, you may win big, and
• 29:36
  I like the dumb gamble. But I know I'm mostly throwing money away,
• 29:40
  So this is not actually at a price point yet where I'm like no,
• 29:45
  but it will prevent me from buying random pickup decks. I will buy a
• 29:52
  deck if I'm playing an event, but like it used to be, every
• 29:55
  time i'd go in the store, i'd just buy another deck, right,
• 29:57
  Like we stop in on the week weekend for something, and it's like end
• 30:00
  a ten dollars key for shack. But now at fifteen dollars, I don't
• 30:04
  think I will do it interesting enough, Yeah, it is fifteen bucks,
• 30:10
  fourteen ninety six is what they Well, okay, so I guess it depends
• 30:14
  on the movie. It might depend on where you're sitting too, because it's
• 30:18
  not no, it's not. So it's depending on what movie it is and
• 30:22
  timing and all that. You're running anywhere between fourteen or fifteen dollars and twenty
• 30:26
  dollars. But even then, now you got to add popcorn. Yeah,
• 30:34
  but all of the so all of that can be slightly different. I mean,
• 30:37
  if you're looking at for food beforehand or grabbing some snacks, so we're
• 30:41
  we're not looking at that. I think it's an interesting dilemma that obviously they're
• 30:47
  selling less decks, and so that does mean that the cost needs to go
• 30:51
  up. The costs for production is all like, is that everything ever ever
• 30:56
  arrived? Though? I don't think, Well, I don't. I don't
• 30:59
  know, but it's been it's been quick. When it was stable for a
• 31:02
  while and we went through the pandemic, I get that, but it's jumped
• 31:07
  significantly. I still think I'm with Sheep and that it's an event for a
• 31:11
  night. I have no problem pulling for a sealed, but I can see
• 31:14
  where that may be a limiting factor. If you're really looking across a month,
• 31:18
  it's sixty bucks to go out four times? Would you get paid at
• 31:22
  least twice? Again, I am perfectly fine with this, but you have
• 31:26
  like again, we're transparent, we're trying to show this ahead of time,
• 31:30
  but that may be an issue talking to some others, like cost point for
• 31:34
  having a weekly sealed, it frightened people. That's never been an issue for
• 31:40
  our local store, but I don't know. People are in different spots.
• 31:44
  I'm not And again, we've only played in our local stores, and our
• 31:48
  locals that are a little bit bigger. I have never once had somebody concerned
• 31:52
  with the cost of key Forge as far as playing and sealed, Now three
• 31:59
  dack seal all of a sudden being forty five plus entry fee, because there
• 32:06
  might be that cost to that is getting that is getting to be a lot
• 32:10
  for a weekly event, for sure. So like the thought of playing three
• 32:15
  decks sealed every week, even I golf, at the thought of fifty dollars
• 32:21
  a week playing keyfde fifteen, you know, it doesn't really bother me.
• 32:29
  Like we used to play MechWarrior, and my thing with that is every time
• 32:32
  I would go out, I'd buy at least one of those packs and those
• 32:36
  were like twelve or thirteen bucks. Like, no, I think they just
• 32:39
  bugged me much. But I think the play experience for keyboards deck is there.
• 32:45
  I just wish that we had more to do with them with longevity and
• 32:50
  I don't see that. But for a play experience, I love coming out
• 32:52
  and I enjoy being able to try the deck for that week. This number
• 32:55
  is getting more brutal for a dad and two kids, right, That's why
• 33:00
  that's that's a number of that I can see being brutals. Like if you're
• 33:02
  a dad with two kids, who you want to bring. Sorry, kids,
• 33:06
  you don't get to play no a French al a quickly learn your French
• 33:15
  friends. Just go to Walmart dot com and look up the new magic set.
• 33:22
  That's easier said than done. I guess, I guess the uh the
• 33:25
  gather, you know, I think they're doing this because they I feel like
• 33:32
  they need to, which is a little concerning. Now now maybe maybe it's
• 33:37
  truly. I mean, the consumer price indexes across so many things, right,
• 33:42
  so that's what I quoted. Maybe certain things that they are, certain
• 33:50
  materials or whatever, right, like that big HP they have, like you
• 33:53
  know, Hughlett Packard likes to jack up the price on you you know,
• 33:57
  uh, they probably got some fake ink imported in there and then their whole
• 34:00
  HP got bricked and they need to get a new one or something like I
• 34:04
  could see, I could see, yeah HP, no just ap HP will
• 34:07
  do that to you if you try to use you know, other ring don't
• 34:12
  buy an HP. So the uh the But but it's probably because they yeah,
• 34:20
  they're they're you know, selling only so many decks and they need to
• 34:27
  you know, they still need the revenue. But it creates it creates a
• 34:30
  conundrum though, like we need to want to be able to sell more decks,
• 34:34
  but we're really pushing out a majority of the decks, half of the
• 34:37
  decks coming from Game found and that that right there. I mean they've now
• 34:45
  included the stores, but it's a small percentage of that amount. It gets
• 34:50
  a little bit weird because if that price point was still at twelve or thirteen,
• 34:54
  it helps the stores and it is even better for the stores where we
• 34:58
  can pick up the extra one. Like that's a little rough. So there
• 35:00
  are multiple costs, like when you look at the costing a deck, that
• 35:05
  there is a cost to card stock in to what that costs. So deck
• 35:10
  costs a lot more than the paper it was printed on. And now if
• 35:16
  they're going whether this increases because manufacturing costs are up or because company overhead is
• 35:23
  up and profit is down, who knows, right, Like, I don't
• 35:29
  know those reasons, but based off of their economics, they have to go
• 35:34
  it up. And that's another thing, like if they need, you know,
• 35:36
  like they can, I bet you they can do a half decent job
• 35:40
  estimating how many decks are going to be sold. And you know, there's
• 35:45
  some economic models and guesses that they get to work with and they say,
• 35:50
  if we increase costs by or priced by two dollars and we sell which is
• 35:55
  what percentage increase, it's a not quite twenty percent increase, fifteen percent increase,
• 36:00
  but we only sell ten percent less decks. They make more money,
• 36:06
  right, Like, it's just that's that's like those kinds of gas and models
• 36:10
  and they have to play those games. That's like the old Coca Cola thing,
• 36:15
  right where when the new CEO came in, he raised the cost of
• 36:19
  everything by a penny and that equated to like two point two million dollars.
• 36:23
  Because it is so like, oh but that's such a large, right,
• 36:27
  I mean, that's that's a small thing. But like, you know,
• 36:30
  you raise it by a penny, and all of a sudden you're making a
• 36:32
  bucket of money and you barely notice. Like two dollars to me is not
• 36:37
  a big deal, and I don't know it is over two hundred thousand decks,
• 36:43
  sure, over two hundred thousand decks, absolutely, But like the cost
• 36:46
  of a magic pack is about five or six dollars. It used to be
• 36:51
  like three. You know, like everything's going up. We can't really complain
• 36:55
  too much, you know, because they could try to really stick it to
• 37:00
  us like Wizards of the Coast is doing to their players between well, actually
• 37:05
  they're getting rid of a lot of things, but like they have their what's
• 37:09
  your mccallo bosters, their foils and alternate art etched blah blah blahs. So
• 37:15
  these are like twenty bucks pack like twelve cards collectors boosters. That's what I'm
• 37:22
  thinking of, you know. I guess for me, this still comes back
• 37:28
  to I'd like to be able to rope in the game stores a little bit
• 37:32
  more, and I'd like to honestly move away from Game found I think that
• 37:37
  I don't see it happening because I think the price point is there for Gigi.
• 37:43
  But again, this is some of the choices, and I want to
• 37:45
  include my local game stores in this as much as possible. We need to
• 37:50
  keep them there for local ope for to have a game store to go ahead
• 37:53
  and play in. It's a tough choice going back and forth. But the
• 37:58
  increase over a short period of time was a little bit unexpected to be one
• 38:01
  hundred percent, honest, yeah it was. Yeah, it's definitely unexpected for
• 38:07
  for for certain all right, But it's just not anything we can impact.
• 38:15
  And I know in my gut like that increase is not going to stop me
• 38:19
  from playing key Forge. It will slow down pointless pack byd and that's what
• 38:30
  it is. Have we Has anybody really been pointless? I mean I can't
• 38:32
  say I have pointless pack bought in. Whenever I go on my local,
• 38:37
  I always buy more decks. I always buy three decks, even if we're
• 38:42
  only playing one sealed. Yeah, I got one. It's an interesting question
• 38:49
  if I will still buy three. I have a store near me that doesn't
• 38:53
  run key Forge events but has some key Forge, and every time I'm there
• 38:55
  to play something else, I buy key Forge and now it's gonna play a
• 39:00
  little more. Does that mean I can feel less guilty about trying to sell
• 39:07
  MM decks for fifteen dollars a piece? Absolutely? Yeh? Should? I
• 39:10
  mean, don't raise those prices? All My one dollar is now fifteen dollars
• 39:16
  back. I mean you can't buy a woe no more? Yep? Well,
• 39:22
  I mean no, there's no more woe in Gg's warehouse. There is
• 39:27
  still woe in Asthma Day's warehouse, and they're just they're just a lot tighter
• 39:31
  on their production line. So here's what we know is going out for game
• 39:35
  found, here's what we know is going out for retail, and then they
• 39:37
  have an option to basically release a third run of it. So it's a
• 39:42
  lot more tight. You're not going to have the excess aoay that we saw
• 39:45
  from long ago. I don't think you suck out of it. No,
• 39:49
  no, no, I agree with that ever again, but I'm saying Gigi
• 39:52
  has to be a lot tighter. I think they do a nice job at
• 39:54
  that, but it comes with some of the restrictions. Your sets are going
• 39:59
  to year round for the last time. Its gonna be so gotta get it.
• 40:04
  So what do we think the price of Vault Master twenty four is going
• 40:08
  to be? Well, what was it last year? Was it five bucks
• 40:13
  more than normal? There were seventeen, I was fifteen fifteen. Do you
• 40:16
  think it's going to seventeen? Probably it makes it most sense to put it
• 40:21
  in. I don't know if it will. I don't know if it will
• 40:24
  go up. We think there will be vault Master twenty four, Yes,
• 40:29
  I think so too. Yeah, this this is all theory. We can
• 40:34
  anything, So I think they will something there now, gonna be Vault Master
• 40:38
  twenty twenty four. Jam start crying now, Yeah, they're just gonna name
• 40:45
  the set jam Cries. How about am I allowed to buy? Will buy
• 40:51
  more of them if that's what they name it. Oh man, I'm gonna
• 40:53
  do that next time. I got my slow Walk Slow Deck. I still
• 40:57
  have my x ray sox deck, and I need my jam Cries, need
• 41:00
  my jam cry is deck. Yeah, to go should be names from people
• 41:07
  that attended the vault. Obviously you can opt in. You can opt Remember
• 41:12
  they were going to do that thank you thing where they were going to use
• 41:15
  backers names and cards, and everybody freaked out about privacy. Yeah, everybody
• 41:21
  in the US freaked out about it. Right, there was some tell you
• 41:24
  what you guys, you guys, go ahead and use the Wookie. You
• 41:28
  can even write the Wookie sucks. I'm fine with that. What I'm saying
• 41:31
  here is a great opportunity to go ahead and sell that essential licensing that you
• 41:36
  can have your name and you could buy that in the next game. Found
• 41:38
  I think they did that. All right? Do we have another important topic
• 41:42
  or yeah we do. Yeah, we gotta go through the Alliance restricted list
• 41:45
  updates. Oh now we don't, Yeah we do. Why I mean,
• 41:51
  there isn't even an event to play it in there is a vault April April,
• 41:59
  literally like three months. Yeah, well, but isn't Alliance also in
• 42:02
  our store championship? Oh? Look at that. It's also in our store
• 42:07
  championship. Weird sheep. I was surprised that actually scheduled or bought or yeah,
• 42:14
  and why not? And you and the championship. You can order the
• 42:19
  kids, right, it's it's the pre release that we don't know what's going
• 42:22
  on. Actually, you can put in a request to order the kids,
• 42:29
  which which Mike I did. He actually did it himself. I was very
• 42:35
  proud of him. I was maybe I have to do it for him,
• 42:39
  but he like logged onto a computer and visited a website and then he emailed
• 42:46
  me to ask me a question. Uh, and I responded and then he
• 42:52
  submitted explain it was okay. That is, he clicked on porn hub yep.
• 42:58
  I was like, well, that's where most of the key forge ads
• 43:00
  are, so just roll with it. Yeah, and you'll be good where
• 43:06
  I put my key forge ads? Yeah, are enough stalling, let's do
• 43:12
  this all right? So should we just go over I guess we could just
• 43:15
  go over the whole list. So things sticking around control of the week in
• 43:22
  any quantity Dark Ember Vault one per duct ghost form, any quantity Library access
• 43:30
  one per DUC stealth mode one per duct Time Traveler A sorry stealth mode,
• 43:36
  any quantity Time Traveler, any quantity United Action and Equantity. Some big new
• 43:43
  not an addition, but a big change. Martian generosity has been limited to
• 43:49
  one per duck. That is that is interesting. You know, I think
• 43:55
  that's a little more than interesting. Yeah, yeah, because so they didn't.
• 44:04
  So basically what they're saying, right is those double Martian generosity decks can't
• 44:09
  can't do it anymore? Right, they can, but not just a nearly
• 44:15
  consistent basis. You got to play them as ARCon decks, which we know
• 44:17
  aren't good because for a lot they have never showed up anywhere, right,
• 44:22
  Right, But they did not, right And I know we haven't gone through
• 44:25
  all these yet, but but there's there isn't like any of the AOA logos
• 44:34
  cards that would have just killed the Martian generosity, right. So they they're
• 44:38
  definitely saying we still want to see Martian generosity, probably because they have to
• 44:43
  clear out the AOA supply somehow. I think nothing someplace that has nothing to
• 44:49
  do with GG but if they're going to charge fifteen dollars a deck and you
• 44:52
  could get you know, a display of AOA for less, whether will be
• 44:59
  like, why, let's let's figure out how to liquidate that. Right?
• 45:02
  So I don't know. Well, so if you ask Zee, he's going
• 45:05
  to tell you spend fifteen dollars on gr or woe over buying a box of
• 45:09
  AOA and you'll still be better off. He's probably right right now. Yeah,
• 45:21
  I still do have what I have in the closet over there. It's
• 45:22
  four displays of AOA that I could So that was that was the deck that
• 45:30
  aviator was running. And also Donuts Dad that he went on, right,
• 45:36
  was Double Martian Generosity yep, one word so that that deck, that pod,
• 45:40
  it might not all been using the exact same Double Mars pod. I'm
• 45:45
  not. I'm not certain on that, but I know there was at least
• 45:49
  one Double Martian General pod that showed up at many many events. That's gone.
• 45:53
  They're saying you can't win with that. Next year, figure out something
• 45:57
  else, all right, but there's we need a new we need yeah,
• 46:00
  we need a new way to just be able to cycle that. So MG
• 46:04
  could go ahead and lead into once it's in discard, i'd have another MG
• 46:07
  to go and basically cycle. So you can't do that anymore. You can't
• 46:12
  do that anymore, is what they've really gone ahead unless you find a well,
• 46:16
  there's there's a whole lot of there's a whole lot of other options.
• 46:20
  Yeah, So shall we talk about what else has been added? New editions
• 46:27
  befuddled any quantity cronus, any quantity fof transponder, any quantity helifest, any
• 46:36
  quantity in furnace has been added to the list, any quantity and legionary trainer
• 46:43
  in any quantity. Okay, the decks that Jason, Jared and Zach we're
• 46:52
  playing and won multiple Vault tours with those are the Kronos Infomorph decks, not
• 47:00
  the Cronos and furnace. Yeah, and it it's half those cards and half
• 47:07
  just super piped pods. But they can't pick pip upgrades. That's very hard
• 47:15
  to ban. So they had to do that. So that just like crushes
• 47:20
  what most of them, although they did not feel the need to touch Gorlami's
• 47:24
  deck. What was Gorlami's again, He's a dark amber vault mm builled with
• 47:30
  a bunch of pips and stuff. It doesn't affect his deck, so that's
• 47:35
  one that did win that didn't get touched. And also Z's deck, which
• 47:38
  won an event, also didn't get touched. His is still fully okay to
• 47:45
  play. Well, that's interesting. So then they did feel although WOA didn't
• 47:52
  actually win anything last year, they did feel the need to are putting restrictions
• 48:01
  on it, right, which I'm okay, So of course I'm only looking
• 48:07
  at Vault Tour results. There were also a whole lot of Alliance decks that
• 48:10
  won Nationals, and I know they considered those. So there there are decks
• 48:17
  that that aren't in my personal knowledge base that do hit some of this stuff,
• 48:22
  and that is where the woe stuff exists. And I actually I did.
• 48:27
  I won Nationals in Canada with a scholar but funneled deck wow legionary trainer.
• 48:32
  The funnel deck that is a very potent and very easy build to do.
• 48:38
  So in some ways it's kind of sad to see it go because it's
• 48:42
  a it is a spot many people could get into Alliance and be moderately competitive
• 48:47
  with without having to go crazy. But it's gone now. So there's that,
• 48:53
  and then there's the fof Transponder and Basically, my understanding on that one
• 49:00
  is there was Berserker decked with the FOFT transponder. That one bananas, but
• 49:05
  they can't block Berserker, so they got to block FOF And when you say
• 49:09
  they can't, they made a choice not to go ahead and target tokens both
• 49:15
  with our scholar and with Berserker. And I get that. So I think
• 49:21
  it is easier to be able to target cards like Legionary Trainer and our FOF
• 49:24
  transponder. Do you guys, I mean, do we feel we should actually
• 49:30
  tell our audience what's those cards mean? Or we're just assuming that they're going
• 49:32
  to know them. I am no, We're not going to read every card.
• 49:37
  Agree, I assume they're going to know Sorry, audience, you will
• 49:40
  not hear any cards. But check out your friend. I prefer keyfards for
• 49:47
  looking up singles cards. But whichever one you like. There are two great
• 49:52
  resources whatever technology. Use that site sorry the walk bot is or you could
• 50:00
  use draw better that cards. Oh wait, we don't have that functionality quint
• 50:04
  Now, yeah, we don't do that. But you can't look up your
• 50:07
  reminders decks. That is another that's another site that just assumes you know everything.
• 50:12
  Yeah, yeah, make sure you check out about section. Oh,
• 50:16
  I haven't done that yet. I'll have to check it out. Have you
• 50:22
  section have an about on? Hold on? Yeah, we have our band
• 50:27
  of misfits dras car I'm not sure around here, I'm not sure anyone knows
• 50:32
  how dras Cords joined the AC crew cast. But without him we would not
• 50:37
  get to share the treasure Dass Corps experience with the rest of the archives across
• 50:40
  the Crucible. Also sealed is the best way to play keyport. This means
• 50:45
  like I read that you like and I should know that this is here.
• 50:52
  I didn't know we had an about section until I'm like, hey, what
• 50:53
  does this mean? And he's like, check the about section? Uh,
• 50:58
  I think yes, suddenly must have asked me for what blurbed do you want?
• 51:01
  At some point I just wrote something in the blink of an eye and
• 51:05
  shot it to him. It's very possible. So that's that, hits f
• 51:09
  o aff Yeah, audible, Hold hold one second because I think that Yeah,
• 51:15
  I actually I know the he's over here in the chat. But this
• 51:19
  is a great question from the chat for AC Live show Falling Along. Does
• 51:22
  Alliant you don't need to trash talk it? No is an honest question.
• 51:29
  It's not a it's not think an honest question without money. It does a
• 51:32
  lion like are people I'm not trying to go. You have to let the
• 51:37
  event run and find out. All right, we don't, We're not.
• 51:42
  This is another place where we're not making the decisions. No, no,
• 51:45
  we doesn't. Okay, we just we just complained things happen. I'm here
• 51:53
  with you guys that I think the Alliance crowd is going to be so small,
• 51:58
  but we don't know how events are running, right, Like you don't
• 52:02
  know what day or what time Alliances are going to be. We have this
• 52:07
  rough suspect that Friday is still going to be sealed and the other two are
• 52:10
  going to be that day, and then you get exactly what you had.
• 52:15
  You get you know, one ten percent of the people play Alliance. This
• 52:21
  is why I missus we are here to conjecture. That's the point, I
• 52:24
  miss Susie. I'm here. Didn't the Alliance almost fail the fire on two
• 52:35
  different vaults in the United I mean did fail the fire and they to make
• 52:43
  it happen. Yeah, and that's with three thousand dollars, with a tiny
• 52:47
  pool of players that where they were like you can win three thousand dollars over
• 52:52
  here to guys complain with the fire please. So I think I think people.
• 53:00
  I think there is a small, dedicated group that plays. But my
• 53:04
  question really comes how small does it have to become before it becomes obsolete and
• 53:07
  needs to be removed. I mean, we stand in one spot, but
• 53:12
  I wish Gigi was a little more transparent with that. If hey, here's
• 53:15
  the numbers. If it doesn't hit, we're just gonna move on. Because
• 53:19
  they were all like, look, we need sixteen to fire. And at
• 53:21
  each of those earlier events that I'm referring to, there were nine people there
• 53:25
  that were there to play Alliance, and that was with the prize bool of
• 53:30
  three grand And while four of those nine could care less because that amount is
• 53:36
  literally like nothing to them, that isn't a small amount to the other five
• 53:40
  that were there to play like that event. And then the only reason that
• 53:44
  they got to the fourteen that one event and then the sixteen leader was because
• 53:49
  everyone saw that there was basically no one playing it. They left our line
• 53:52
  and went over there because I'm already top sixteen. So how do you how
• 53:59
  do you feel about that? Z? Because they had talked about some of
• 54:01
  us who had already qualified going ahead and going over to Alliance, or choosing
• 54:07
  to go ahead and play Worlds in Alliance and using that as justification to keep
• 54:12
  Alliance. Is that what you know is that your true Like my decision was
• 54:17
  based on a team thing, Like we had so many people qualified in one
• 54:22
  form at one point I moved over to Alliance and then that's just where the
• 54:25
  numbers were, because in the end we had way more people qualified for one
• 54:30
  versus the other. So I played the others even out the numbers because in
• 54:32
  the end, like I enjoyed the deck, I ended up playing it.
• 54:37
  I did find more interest in the the idea that I made a deck that
• 54:42
  was unique because I like spent the time to make it. That was a
• 54:45
  different experience than that that was enjoyable for that amount of time. But like,
• 54:52
  I don't know if it fires from go if there's not money there doing
• 54:55
  those people this year. Like, I don't think there's a chance in hell
• 54:59
  if there was not money attached to Alliance this season this last season, that
• 55:05
  any of those events would have fired at too. Yeah, I know some
• 55:12
  people are passionate about it. We'll have to see, but hopefully we know
• 55:15
  the recent Seattle fired is because they merged them. It was not going to
• 55:20
  fire. I can't disagree with you. I'm just saying I hope that they're
• 55:24
  a little more transparent. I know some of you have some passionate individuals.
• 55:29
  I just think if it becomes so small, then place it as a side
• 55:31
  event, not a mainstay event. That's here when we're getting a blue deck
• 55:37
  book custom play Matt, but it's only generic to Vault Tours, not to
• 55:44
  like that event and maybe new metal keys when that's the prizes. But this
• 55:54
  is what I said for your Matt. You can go ahead and have a
• 55:58
  generic template and sim change out the name from the location. Yeah, give
• 56:05
  give Josh a can of spray paint and just I mean, I guess I
• 56:12
  think an idea of what we should expect they're offering to be right, Like
• 56:17
  what was the championship kit that the Nationals were paying like a grand fo like
• 56:30
  that, That's what I would expect to be. Like, I don't know.
• 56:35
  I gave one of them. I won, and I gave it all
• 56:37
  away because it was nothing that would be shocked as a keyboards players around day
• 56:44
  one that it is anything different than that. Kid, Well, I have
• 56:50
  hope that it is more than that, and I think that the prizing needs
• 56:54
  to be an attractive I don't whatever that is. It depends on different people,
• 57:00
  but I think that it has to be worthwhile. I think it can't
• 57:04
  be a simple little blue deck book that you're talking about. It will be
• 57:09
  same one. I think it's just going to be like whatever the comparable thing
• 57:13
  is. They think they can do in house or third party really easy for
• 57:20
  really low costs, because like we know, they don't want to spend money.
• 57:24
  We have ample proof of that. I do have faith that they're going
• 57:29
  to go ahead and work on it. They have some we just have to
• 57:31
  wait and see. I'll say that some information goes through the cards removed from
• 57:38
  the rest list, so you want to go through that, Like I don't
• 57:43
  want to talk about Halifast. Yeah, Hellofast there and I think in furnace
• 57:47
  is really an interesting choice. Already been there, but yeah it's not there
• 57:53
  now is Hellifast? Like I didn't see those but it was again. I
• 58:00
  heard there was some stuff with Halifast and there were more people working on it
• 58:07
  happening, but I didn't never see it like hit but didn't. Hell,
• 58:10
  didn't Helafast show up in for next day? No? No, no,
• 58:17
  no, yes, I think that's where showed up in the open showed up
• 58:23
  in the okay, Halifast Warrior. I think it was Zirker So that's uh,
• 58:32
  all right? So those are those are there? I? Like I
• 58:35
  said, I didn't see them do real well in vault tours, and I
• 58:37
  don't know about the other events. But they added all that stuff. So
• 58:40
  whoa which didn't win anything did take quite the kick? Oh yeah, I
• 58:46
  read this list and what I read in any vaults? Right? I see
• 58:52
  here that they want it to be about groom reminders, right, Like,
• 58:59
  well you new that isn't going to have it's not gonna have restrictions before it
• 59:02
  comes out. I get that, But you limit Martian generosity, You add
• 59:08
  all the powerful whoe stuff, and you you you leave it the time traveler
• 59:15
  or the helpful futureself. That weird, weird insight. That was crazy to
• 59:22
  hear Michael say. Yeah. Michael's like, we gotta have time traveler in
• 59:25
  there, not for time traveler, but for what for the help for future
• 59:30
  self? Because it shuffles your deck and that wrong against grim reminders decks and
• 59:37
  it's like like, if it's that strong against grim Reminders deck, that means
• 59:43
  Grim Reminders is too weak. Yeah, is right, Like that's right.
• 59:49
  What's the craziest screaming cave is that on there? That's what we were talking
• 59:53
  about, Wookie, You and I like common and in more sets like and
• 59:59
  it's in it is selling a multiple control of the week screaming Cave deck.
• 1:00:07
  Nice. That isn't good enough to put on the list though anywhere, but
• 1:00:13
  for the same reason that well, blocking help from future self if you're if
• 1:00:17
  you're gonna block hffs from that screaming cave literally just says shuffle your deck and
• 1:00:24
  discardi together. And then he talked about bear flute like just crazy, it's
• 1:00:30
  just crazy, like going on and reminders that did you guys Maybe we just
• 1:00:37
  haven't gotten the reminder deck to. I don't know, do you guys not
• 1:00:40
  remember the Coda Powerhouse bear flute. I did buy a early on. I
• 1:00:47
  was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a bare flute deck with as many
• 1:00:51
  bears as I can. So I found we're cheap like a bear flute three
• 1:00:58
  ancient bear deck, and I knew it wasn't a very good deck. But
• 1:01:00
  but I thought I was like, oh, this could be fun with with
• 1:01:04
  this right. It was not fun. It was awful because like you would
• 1:01:07
  never do the thing you wanted to do because of old conditions, because you
• 1:01:12
  always be healing. No I want to go get bored. No, no,
• 1:01:16
  you got to heal that one doofus you have? I was like the
• 1:01:21
  worst there. Well, I think it's interesting. I definitely think we'll get
• 1:01:25
  hit up from a large addition to the card pool. There were some cards,
• 1:01:31
  however, that were unrestricted or removed, which was now really interesting.
• 1:01:38
  Speaking of good disc cards, Resting gun Tists coming off the restricted list,
• 1:01:43
  that's important because the other card one else, Yeah, the other the other
• 1:01:47
  card. That's kind of important. There is Science off from Morphius also coming
• 1:01:52
  off the restricted list. There are multiple sciences, multiple multi science, morphous
• 1:02:01
  science, Sir Morpheus and Resta Guntist decks being tested on TCO now where when
• 1:02:07
  it hits they play it and they go you can play no houses. There's
• 1:02:10
  another reason that Alliance is gonna die. I mean, like, I don't
• 1:02:15
  know why they thought that was a good idea to bring that in. I
• 1:02:20
  don't know why they thought that because they didn't see anybody run it because it
• 1:02:24
  was banned, and they're like, and nobody played Morpheus or resta Guntists,
• 1:02:28
  So like when they looked at their data and look at how many Restaguntists were
• 1:02:31
  played, zero, they look to see how many Morpheus were played because it's
• 1:02:36
  out of World's Collide zero, right it they're just bad where because they're just
• 1:02:45
  World's Collide has traditionally been a pretty bad alliance set, So nothing from that
• 1:02:53
  now. Also the science offer sir Morpheus in furnace thing comes back in the
• 1:03:00
  table too, which can be kind of might might be crazy but probably not
• 1:03:06
  good enough, and that actually, well no, but these things exist,
• 1:03:10
  and it's it's crazy. It's it's crazy that they didn't do something about that.
• 1:03:20
  And I think if it wins an event, then they probably ban it
• 1:03:22
  right away because they go, wow, that's really no fun to play against.
• 1:03:28
  Like it's worse looting to that than like double Marshal Dusty objection, because
• 1:03:32
  that literally is you can't play the game anymore. You're done, You're done.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah, but not a single one of those cards was ever played,
• 1:03:42
  So from a look of like, why would we keep it restricted? Nobody
• 1:03:45
  even tried them, okay, and what else was removed? Another one and
• 1:03:54
  that was that one doesn't show up because they blocked Traveler, which is and
• 1:04:02
  which is like LA over those two cards you never see either of them,
• 1:04:05
  and you don't see either because unless you actually have all three. That's when
• 1:04:10
  logos in that set really gets good. When you can have an LA turn
• 1:04:14
  with Time Travelers that is also playing Scrambler Storms, then you get to get
• 1:04:18
  enough amber and say, oh yeah, you can't actually ig or TMTP me,
• 1:04:23
  so I get to forge my stinking key. But it's still I still
• 1:04:29
  say, you see, very very like the problem is the Storms. They
• 1:04:32
  want the restricted list to be so simple. They want it to be like
• 1:04:36
  if like here's a list of cards, you can't have them together, when
• 1:04:41
  honestly, if it were a little bit more complicated, you could have a
• 1:04:44
  lot more playable cards. Like if it literally was you just can't have Resturant
• 1:04:49
  Guntes with Morpheus and that is the only restriction. You could actually have them
• 1:04:54
  separately as much as you want, Like that's the solve. But they want
• 1:04:58
  it to be like idiot proof and you just read the list, you just
• 1:05:00
  do this or this, Yeah, they keep saying they want it to be
• 1:05:03
  super simple for the judges to be able to, which I think I understand.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, I get that. For deck check, I will tell you
• 1:05:11
  that Slayers should do the deck check, right, yeah, yeah, they
• 1:05:16
  said they do. Hey, I could probably tell you how to write that
• 1:05:19
  code. They don't have the resources to do it, but they don't have
• 1:05:24
  access to che eptz. As you said, come next season, you're only
• 1:05:30
  going to have to deck check for deck so they can make it as complex
• 1:05:32
  as they want. So with this though, even this past week, Wookie
• 1:05:36
  was this list super easy to understand when it says any quantity or one per
• 1:05:43
  deck in this talk about it people people are still confused by it. That's
• 1:05:49
  what I'm saying. Like, it's about as simple as they can possibly make
• 1:05:51
  it. But if they wanted it's actually work, well, no, they
• 1:05:56
  can, they would need to make it. I don't know about that.
• 1:06:00
  Well, because here's here's the thing I forgot because I didn't really, I'm
• 1:06:03
  not gonna lie to you. Twenty twenty three alliance. I put all of
• 1:06:06
  a month into it and then went on, never mind, you don't read
• 1:06:10
  everything anyway, like well, but even but even then, when I was
• 1:06:14
  trying to build something. I was just like, never mind because I realized
• 1:06:17
  that it's tough to build an Alliance deck, and then I just didn't care
• 1:06:21
  anymore. Okay, this is already you are not the example, maybe the
• 1:06:27
  most time we ever spent on Alliance, which is already too much. So
• 1:06:30
  do we got anything else we got to hit here? Yeah? Don't.
• 1:06:33
  We're like turning into help from Future Alliance podcast here, So listen, I'm
• 1:06:38
  busting my Alliance all that. No, it's just not going to fire,
• 1:06:43
  like that's the future of Alliance. Well I think that. Well, let's
• 1:06:46
  see what shows There are forty decks in d okay right now that have a
• 1:06:51
  legacy restaurant gun Tess. That's quite a lot because Morpheus is from World's Cliente
• 1:06:59
  if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, this is the World's Glide build, right,
• 1:07:01
  So that is quite a bit, especially when all you need to do
• 1:07:05
  is get a what do you need double double? Can even you can even
• 1:07:15
  do it all from the World's Glide And then you just need something that allows
• 1:07:18
  you to play a creature out of Turn or out, Well you just you
• 1:07:21
  just you play your Morpheus, you play your Kirby you exume it and the
• 1:07:25
  game is over. You can exum it too, Yeah, like it's it's
• 1:07:30
  Morpheus Kirby exzoom g and there's lots of den can make it really really easy
• 1:07:36
  because you can have like the four Eddy decks that eat it all up.
• 1:07:40
  Yeah, because the crazy thing with Ruster Guntists is it doesn't even say like
• 1:07:44
  that you can call that house and just discard or something like can CTM corner
• 1:07:49
  of the market. You can still just call the house and get rid of
• 1:07:51
  trash, which makes it. Yeah, you're just like, yep, these
• 1:07:56
  are all just because even if it's just the one Morpheus, if you lock
• 1:08:00
  them out of two houses like nine percent of the time, that game is
• 1:08:04
  just over. Mm. Yeah, well that is a surprising change. I
• 1:08:12
  scrambled storm doesn't mean anything because is that is that one said only still Yeah,
• 1:08:16
  it was only on coder. Yeah, so that's you're still not gonna
• 1:08:24
  see that. You'll see scramblestorm. Now there's a lot of LA because everyone's
• 1:08:28
  gonna choose LA first. That is the card that is being But I'm saying,
• 1:08:31
  like, how many people are playing coda? I was it's really okay,
• 1:08:38
  how many people are playing Coder you a whole lot more after that band
• 1:08:43
  list is coming out. Oh there's only four players. Well actually no,
• 1:08:46
  I'm not going so of them playing. I mean it's gonna be Sydney.
• 1:08:54
  I'm still I think Jason's gone. I think Jared's gone. It's gonna be
• 1:08:58
  freaking Sydney and Aviator. You know, like those three can go play with
• 1:09:04
  themselves. We're more open than this. The what do you guys think about,
• 1:09:13
  in my opinion, the gross loss not including nep seed. Well,
• 1:09:20
  no, it's not going to because that's in definitely I get, but man
• 1:09:29
  it you you have to take a bunch of other Tamed cards to have nept
• 1:09:32
  seed. Yeah, okay, I sacked like nine cards in that Untamed house
• 1:09:40
  to get the three nept seeds that I was running. And every time I
• 1:09:44
  played Untamed when I didn't have a seat in hand was a bad turn.
• 1:09:47
  Like you have to give up a lot for that. Now, it's my
• 1:09:50
  original code of deck that I played, Like tam was awful. You know,
• 1:09:56
  there's like two It had mimicry and nept seed and everything else could go
• 1:09:59
  flas often like because yes, on Tame con generate a lot of amber billion
• 1:10:02
  Alliance. Like that's not enough, Like you need to make feel like your
• 1:10:04
  turns feel like you're cheating and playing normal people are just losing. I'm surprised
• 1:10:11
  Mimicry doesn't hit the list for the wonky broken crap it can make. Isn't
• 1:10:15
  that just now was in a World's Client Okay, I couldn't whatever said that
• 1:10:26
  is? Yeah, I might want to look at adding one of those cards
• 1:10:30
  or both of them back to the list. I don't know, doesn't matter,
• 1:10:32
  it doesn't. Mimicry is three cents away and the world you say it
• 1:10:41
  doesn't, I don't know. Again, We'll have to wait and see.
• 1:10:45
  I agree with Sheep. We'll have to wait and see. Yeah, maybe
• 1:10:47
  maybe you got to remember the Europeans really really really like there might be a
• 1:10:54
  whole lot you know there. There is potentially a number of people the Indians
• 1:11:00
  complained about prices all the time, Wait till they see the new price.
• 1:11:03
  Well, no, there's potentially a number of players that are going to come
• 1:11:09
  back out of the woodwork that weren't coming to previous events because they can play
• 1:11:14
  sealed right now. This this is actually something I want to talk about a
• 1:11:18
  little bit separately. Is There's been a lot of vocal people in all of
• 1:11:26
  the key forge forums and things that you know, Sealed, it's all about
• 1:11:29
  sealed, Sealed, Sealed, sealed. If twenty twenty four only has and
• 1:11:35
  this is what I think, it's going to be ten or fifteen percent higher
• 1:11:40
  numbers for big events than last year with them now putting Sealed back in as
• 1:11:45
  a major event, assuming that it isn't total joke prizes, right, there
• 1:11:50
  has to be something to play for good mat that matt okay, But if
• 1:11:57
  people don't actually show up at the events and a significantly greater number, there
• 1:12:02
  will not be twenty five events. Right if if they get the same numbers
• 1:12:06
  this year after same doing what we asked and the numbers don't improve like it
• 1:12:15
  shows that there isn't yeah, like they'd have to if they're gonna keep doing
• 1:12:19
  big events, they're gonna have to accept that they're never gonna be bigger than
• 1:12:23
  one hundred players again, which you know, in my opinion, made be
• 1:12:28
  the actual truth, because I don't I don't think putting seal as the main
• 1:12:31
  event doubles the size of our events. But this is this is the truth,
• 1:12:36
  This is the truth. You gotta do. I think it will be
• 1:12:40
  if it is truly a main like that is the Saturday and Sunday event,
• 1:12:45
  I think it would increase intendence by a lot. But if it's still like
• 1:12:50
  that, it's just stupid. Like I'm just hones saying some people, everybody
• 1:12:56
  who said all come because they're sealed, I hope you actually choose to come
• 1:13:00
  and show. It means something because if the numbers don't go up, like
• 1:13:06
  from a just a raw perspective of how much money you can make on this
• 1:13:11
  game may not be enough. What we I'm just saying, like, show
• 1:13:19
  up for the basics. Want to well if you can, like yes,
• 1:13:26
  don't put yourself in a dumb position to go to them, but yeah,
• 1:13:30
  put put a little bit of effort into actually going to the events. After
• 1:13:33
  saying, you know, I don't go because there isn't sealed experience there there
• 1:13:41
  are a million other factors because if they only run three events and they're in
• 1:13:44
  stupid locations, like I get it, nobody's gonna show up, Like there
• 1:13:47
  are lots of other factors. But if it's reasonable, you gotta show up.
• 1:13:53
  Now, I hear, and I agree with you. I'm just telling
• 1:13:56
  you we have to first build a foundation in our local scenes, and those
• 1:14:00
  have been absolutely depleted, and so we need news about the pre release.
• 1:14:05
  We need news about Okay, here's more of what is actually your kids for
• 1:14:11
  store jams. No, but I'm saying that information has to be out yesterday
• 1:14:15
  and that meaning even earlier, so that we can go ahead and build the
• 1:14:19
  scene. We have to first we get to talk about We first have to
• 1:14:24
  do that before you can expect to see any increase in your vaults, Like
• 1:14:29
  Sealed's going to increase slightly. We see that with all other games that Sealed
• 1:14:32
  brings out larger amounts. But I can't go ahead and say that it's going
• 1:14:35
  to go ahead and an increase by ten percent, fifteen percent, And if
• 1:14:40
  Gigi's using that as their gauge, I think that's a real shame. We
• 1:14:44
  haven't done. We haven't had the time to build that local scene, which
• 1:14:47
  is where you're going to get. It depends on where they place everything and
• 1:14:49
  how they do everything like that. It doesn't even matter, like if you're
• 1:14:54
  like, all right, we're going to give you Sealed, but again we're
• 1:14:56
  going to give it to you on a Friday, which is what everybody's assuming
• 1:14:58
  right now it's gonna be Friday seas and then Saturday Sunday for the other two
• 1:15:00
  events. It doesn't matter. I don't think a lot of people are going
• 1:15:04
  to give up a again, it depends on how many they run. I
• 1:15:06
  don't think people are gonna be like, I'm gona take a three day weekend,
• 1:15:09
  We'll play. I got a question. I got a question. I
• 1:15:12
  got a question. What if? What if if they moved Alliance to Friday?
• 1:15:21
  What do you say? What happened? They can move it to Thursday.
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  Are already drafts? I already asked this and put it in. Can
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  we try rotating it for locations? Now? Not rotating but no, but
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  but what they should do though? Like drafts, like I believe one,
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  they should put Alliance on Friday for fun for whatever slot that they did last
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  year and Sealed should be there with Arkan on Saturday like we I'm with you
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  when they first launched back when we saw that they had like are con sealed
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  in these two bullshit Alliance formats. When we first saw the four from the
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  original one that they changed for the first KFC, we thought Alliance was would
• 1:16:04
  be that four fun Friday thing, and then it became like, wait,
• 1:16:08
  what, like this is a gig's artistic stroke, They're gonna go ahead and
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  keep it there. I'm sorry, but I think, especially especially in the
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  first season, that that would have been a good, moderate, competitive Friday
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  night event, saying like, hey, like this doesn't have the huge three
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  thousand dollars prize, so if you don't do good, it doesn't really matter.
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  And here's an opportunity for everybody where this is the primary thing to do.
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  So you can play this and have fun playing and if you like,
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  if you for it, it's not a big deal. But let people warm
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  up into it a little bit, because people didn't really want to jump over
• 1:16:47
  to Alliance because they knew they didn't have the Bonker's broken deck. Well,
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  my question is is, like we talked about this week this past Tuesday,
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  So guntis or orpheus is a thing, right, and it's already we're seeing
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  it. What happens when it's they go, oh, yeah, this is
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  a problem, and then mid season decided to go back to like, yeah,
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  he's got to go back on a restricted list. The people who have
• 1:17:15
  chosen to play continue to lose faith in investing anything significant into playing Alliance because
• 1:17:24
  it is too volatile. There are already players I've seen and heard from that
• 1:17:30
  this change the list has made them say I'm not going to continue playing this
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  because my effort has been destroyed. I what effort? And now I going
• 1:17:39
  to do? I have with that is that you you decided to start something
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  you knew after the twenty three season was done the changes were going to be
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  made, and then you put all this effort into doing something and then didn't
• 1:17:51
  even know what changes were going to be made. So you made the decision
• 1:17:56
  that, well, nothing's going to change. Of course things were going to
• 1:17:59
  change. Stupid Willie. Basically you're the logic no one should put effort to
• 1:18:01
  the Alliance ever, no, which I agree with what I After the twenty
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  three season, you had to know there was going to be changed. This
• 1:18:11
  was stuff built for the twenty two or for the twenty three season and correct,
• 1:18:15
  but after that stuff and now it's all dead. But I'm gonna we're
• 1:18:21
  invested Alliance every year, should automatically lose your investment every year? Well,
• 1:18:27
  okay, I'm gonna go with what she says. This happens in every other
• 1:18:30
  card game all the time. Yeah, but does anyone care about other card
• 1:18:35
  games right now? Well, the big difference between this and other card games
• 1:18:41
  is to some extent you can fix it, you can't fix it when they
• 1:18:48
  especially on this one, where they add a card like Befuddle, where your
• 1:18:54
  deck only had one Befuddle in it and you didn't even have it in there
• 1:18:57
  because of the Befuddle. You had it in there because you wanted your stupid
• 1:19:00
  briosarc and whatever and whatever, right, and now it's funk and it's not
• 1:19:05
  even because of the card you were playing, and you can't fix it.
• 1:19:09
  You can't just be like, oh well, I'll just slide the butter Fuddle
• 1:19:12
  out and put the abusiness light in and I'll be fine. Now you can't.
• 1:19:15
  The promise is you can't do that in this game. So when they
• 1:19:18
  take away, I think they're taking away whole thing, right, not just
• 1:19:25
  one piece that might be replaceable. And I understand many other card games when
• 1:19:28
  they ban or restricted card it is, but yeah, because they're taking away
• 1:19:33
  that, they're like can't be redeemed at that point effort. It is a
• 1:19:39
  little worse here. But I'm also with you, and we said this early
• 1:19:44
  on, like with the restricted list. It means be careful about over infesting
• 1:19:47
  their alliance because we did all know, but to spend a ton of effort
• 1:19:51
  and then for it to all be just said no, like it is.
• 1:19:56
  It is frustrating. I know that I saw you listed. They left the
• 1:20:00
  door open to being able to change mid season, but it becomes a problem,
• 1:20:05
  in my opinion, if you change mid season one even more horrible.
• 1:20:11
  And this is and this is why I want to say this. You only
• 1:20:14
  first place is getting access to worlds. If I win for Alliance and I
• 1:20:17
  am that one person from the vaults and then the next one, they're like,
• 1:20:20
  you know what, we saw Rusty Morpheus show up multiple times. We're
• 1:20:25
  just going to go and eliminate it. Now, what are you playing?
• 1:20:27
  Are you playing the deck that you qualified for? Is it not like it's
• 1:20:30
  it's really really weird and all that. And I know they've left it open,
• 1:20:35
  but they're they're in a rough spot. When is that that's my is
• 1:20:39
  it? Every set they're able to adjust the case. They're going to be
• 1:20:45
  doing twice a year adjustments to the band and restricted list right there, with
• 1:20:50
  no rules, they can do whatever they want. They could they could next
• 1:20:55
  month just be like, you know what, We've reconsidered this card and it's
• 1:20:59
  coming on and you'll be like what. Honestly, someone in the r just
• 1:21:02
  scored a while back, I think, way back before KFC two mentioned like
• 1:21:09
  an elegant solve for a lot of the problems that some of this stuff creates.
• 1:21:12
  It's for that season if a deck wins a vault level event, retire
• 1:21:16
  it into Worlds. Like that was the most simple sounding thing that I had
• 1:21:23
  heard all season, after a bunch of people were talking about, like arguing
• 1:21:26
  about like power levels and blah blah blah blah blah, and it makes sense.
• 1:21:30
  It's like it does. That's that's like, yeah, don't don't get
• 1:21:40
  rid of Decks, Robber, But yeah, if it went something big that
• 1:21:42
  only gets to show up for Worlds for that season, yes, and then
• 1:21:45
  then I then unchain it for next season and then go back to scratch.
• 1:21:49
  Like that would be a very simple solution to what would cause most of the
• 1:21:54
  problems. Because while we're sitting in the cast, as much as I don't
• 1:21:58
  think it matters this year for Rusty Decks, that would be a tier for
• 1:22:01
  Alliance. There are only two that are owned that have a restaurant Countess Pod
• 1:22:06
  that would truly be considered a tier, and then there's another ten that are
• 1:22:10
  owned that would be about a minus level tier for Alliance that can do what
• 1:22:14
  we're talking about. So there are only twelve truly viable decks that are owned
• 1:22:18
  by players that are active in the community. But that's probably you're gonna see
• 1:22:25
  them. You can and go with Yeah, if they're twelve owned by real
• 1:22:29
  people, two of like one of the two eight actually both of the A
• 1:22:32
  tier decks that I'm talking about, if I wanted to spend the money,
• 1:22:35
  I'm sure I could get them. Don't want them, but like, we
• 1:22:41
  will see these decks at Alliance, assume it it ever fires, like,
• 1:22:45
  they'll be there and they will be very hard to beat at some point.
• 1:22:49
  If you don't beat them first, you're never gonna play a turn again.
• 1:22:55
  Yeap. Okay, So that's Alliance. What else was on our list for
• 1:22:59
  today? That's it. That's it. That's our listen, Okay, So
• 1:23:02
  we recover, We talked Alliance, we talked about fifteen dollars acts, we
• 1:23:05
  talked about Janet's poor dead husband. Also, you know, I was thinking
• 1:23:15
  this the significant other, the mythically widowed. If it's mythically widowed, does
• 1:23:20
  that mean that her significant other is now a reverent Yeah? Like, which
• 1:23:29
  is it? Yeah? I have an opinion, but I want your guys
• 1:23:32
  opinions. I don't even know all the remnants. All right, we'll pull
• 1:23:35
  them up in our Connor Connor real quick? Is it Duma? The you
• 1:23:41
  think Duma that that's your pick? Okay, that's that's that's reasonable choice.
• 1:23:44
  I think it's a reasonable choice. Smiling Ruth the ruth Okay, okay,
• 1:23:51
  I have to get in here, Ruth. Yeah, well here here's the
• 1:23:56
  uh, here's the option. The choice is there's Cincinnatus right, since a
• 1:24:00
  resurrects the returned, the Encounter Gollum ghostly doctor for act immortal Greking Phantom Drummer,
• 1:24:09
  not Portal Monster, Quick Slick's Grave Master Revived or something whatever, equod
• 1:24:18
  On Spectral Ruth or Zeno's Dark Shadow. Oh now, it's definitely Greking.
• 1:24:26
  You think Greking? Yeah? Literally never died? I uh, I think
• 1:24:34
  it's it's the Phantom Drummer. Not. That's that's why I think I think
• 1:24:38
  Janet was for hard rock. You think I I was, like, you
• 1:24:44
  know, she likes she likes that bad boy. I just want to go
• 1:24:49
  a portal monster worldless. It's like I think she likes. I think she
• 1:24:58
  likes that overlord greking thing. Okay, all right, all right, a
• 1:25:00
  little domination the bottom? Yeah that does? Does that work like that?
• 1:25:09
  Never mind? Well we're missing I think it's just whatever. I think nobody
• 1:25:16
  cares nobody. Okay, so that that wraps up for night. That'll do
• 1:25:21
  it. Hours under go play some gram reminders. I'm having a lot of
• 1:25:27
  fun playing stuff, opening stuff. I got my my cool treatment. The
• 1:25:33
  one of these things called the Awakening. Yeah, yeah, Awakening Special Edition.
• 1:25:40
  They're pretty cool. Uh so I'm excited about that. I don't know
• 1:25:44
  what these ones. I like both that it is a lot to look at.
• 1:25:54
  I don't know in the Awakening Edition. Yeah, there's a lot,
• 1:25:59
  so definitely. I mean it's not for everybody, but we'll see y'all.
• 1:26:09
  Fortune, May the Forge be with you. But not afraid to tell you
• 1:26:15
  to get it and keep it to myself when I celebrate it's that time again.
• 1:26:19
  But to grab your balloons and invite your friends. See bills back going,
• 1:26:23
  yes, trap them in. Look at me, everybody, I'm smiling
• 1:26:26
  big on the boat right now that I can't predict to me, tone that
• 1:26:29
  down, but I can't resist. Y'all know, if that sound better,
• 1:26:31
  raise your fish. The search begins on back, someone enjoy the trip.