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January 15, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 1: Com it was welcome in to The Clark Eisenhower Outdoor
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Speaker 1: edition for This thursday. Afternoon this portion of the program
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Speaker 1: on Coach Pete Carroll let's Next tuesday on the. PROGRAM
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Speaker 1: a Recent Texas Fishing Game facebook post about the legality
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Speaker 1: of using drones to fish has filled with. Comments the
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Speaker 1: discussion stemming from questions surrounding whether anglers can legally use
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Speaker 1: drones to drop bait. Offshore according to federal, law the
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Speaker 1: the answer is. No While Texas parks And Wildlife department
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Speaker 1: does not have a drone specific fishing regulation of its,
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Speaker 1: own the practice is prohibited under The Federal Airborne Hunting.
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Speaker 1: Act because drones are classified as, aircraft they cannot be
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Speaker 1: used to assist in the taking of, wildlife including deploying.
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Speaker 1: Bait while fishing states are not allowed to override that
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Speaker 1: federal restriction or issue permits to allow. It some of
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Speaker 1: the comments, Edited many focused on. Safety Jeremy morton wrote
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Speaker 1: that using a drone to deploy bait quote is much
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Speaker 1: safer alternative for the surf fishermen versus paddling through the,
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Speaker 1: serf adding that anglers have invested heavily in the technology
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Speaker 1: and deserve clarity for the. Law lance stuff says so
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Speaker 1: much safer to drop a bait than paddle it. Out
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Speaker 1: others question why drone bait drops are treated differently than
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Speaker 1: other modern. Tools Clin Jaska jackson asking how it differs
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Speaker 1: from other bait delivery methods that don't involve. Casting you,
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Speaker 1: know kites have been used in the. Past some want
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Speaker 1: a compromise to amend and clarify the. Law others call
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Speaker 1: it government, outreach none of their business how they.
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Speaker 4: Bait that's probably not exactly.
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Speaker 1: True the legality remains. Unchanged under current federal, law drones
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Speaker 1: are considered aircraft and cannot be used to assist fishing
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Speaker 1: by deploying. Bait any change would require federal. Action you,
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Speaker 1: know this has been going on a while since drone
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Speaker 1: technology came. Available it is hard to drive down a
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Speaker 1: beach In texas and not see somebody using a. Drone
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Speaker 1: there have been all kinds of videos made as well
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Speaker 1: on the social, media people actually using drones to, fish
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Speaker 1: to reel in fish beyond the third. Sandbar so what
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Speaker 1: we're talking. About most of you who fish understand. This
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Speaker 1: some of you who don't may. Not but the drones
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Speaker 1: are used and flown from the beach to deeper water
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Speaker 1: beyond the third sandbar from the beach and then deposit
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Speaker 1: the line and the bait into the water in deeper
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Speaker 1: water where you might not be able to get to
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Speaker 1: it if you were just you, know on your own
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Speaker 1: two feet trying to swim out to that third, sandbar
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Speaker 1: which has its own particular challenges as well. Sharks, Anyway
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Speaker 1: apparently it's not, legal so it's going to be. Interesting
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Speaker 1: i've never seen it. Enforced i've never seen tickets, written
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Speaker 1: And i'm talking about here In. Texas that's not to
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Speaker 1: say they haven't, been but.
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Speaker 4: It'll be.
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Speaker 1: Interesting since this publicity about, it it would be or
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Speaker 1: will we see more tickets being written by people who
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Speaker 1: are going to continue to use drones to deposit bait
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Speaker 1: in deeper. Water, ripple a subadult male great white, shark
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Speaker 1: has appeared off the coast Of, knowledge drawing national Attention
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Speaker 1: according To Fox, Weather ripple was tagged by Oh serch
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Speaker 1: In september of twenty twenty three In Nova. Scotia at the,
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Speaker 1: time eleven feet, long seven hundred and eighty, Pounds ripple
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Speaker 1: began a south bound migration typical of white. Sharks what
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Speaker 1: wasn't typical was that the migration led to The gulf
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Speaker 1: Of mexico out of, knowledge placing him in waters many
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Speaker 1: consider outside the great whites normal. Range now we've seen
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Speaker 1: great whites along The texas coasts that have been.
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Speaker 4: Tagged according TO o search.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four revealed a broader and more revealing pattern
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Speaker 1: of great white movement in The. Gulf three Other great
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Speaker 1: whites that have been tagged entered waters south Of New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: Cage a great white male tagged In Nova scotia surprise
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Speaker 1: researchers when eping Near New orleans in Late march and
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Speaker 1: again In, april and the continued presence of that particular
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Speaker 1: shark Suggests golf is not just a winter.
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Speaker 4: Stopover rose followed a similar.
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Speaker 1: Path Her april pings in the region further challenged the
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Speaker 1: long held assumptions about white shark migrations. Schedules crystal's. Visit
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Speaker 1: the most striking large female entered south Of New orleans
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Speaker 1: Last nope two januaries Ago january of twenty twenty, four
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Speaker 1: marking one of the most western most movements ever recorded
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Speaker 1: since they started tracking great, whites reinforcing the idea that
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Speaker 1: even mature females will push deeper into the gulf than
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Speaker 1: what was once thought so.
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Speaker 4: Very, interesting pretty. Cool they can track the.
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Speaker 1: Movements they are out, there believe, me if it's, saltwater
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Speaker 1: they're out, there including the. Golf speaking of, sharks gruesome
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Speaker 1: video capturing the moment a female snorkeler was attacked while
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Speaker 1: vacationing In Brazil Teanne, dalazon who's thirty. Six there's footage
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Speaker 1: showing nurse sharks circling not generally the species you look.
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Speaker 4: At when one.
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Speaker 1: Speeds toward her and chomps down on her, thigh the
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Speaker 1: lawyer From salpollo is seen desperately flailing to get the
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Speaker 1: shark off as it begins to drag her. Down her tour,
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Speaker 1: Guide Nago, narronhaf freed her by striking the. Animal she
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Speaker 1: told A brazilian. PAPER i felt him shaking my. LEG
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Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i couldn't put my hand out because he
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Speaker 1: might rip it. Off nago started punching the shark and
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Speaker 1: it let go of. Me she was rushed to a nearby.
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Speaker 1: Hospital the surfer shared pictures of the bloody bite marks
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Speaker 1: On instagram like you. Do Dellas on only suffered superficial,
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Speaker 1: injuries no damage to the muscles and. Tendons she was
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Speaker 1: given two stitches to a tentana shot in any. Bodix
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Speaker 1: WILL i have a? Scar she, said, yes But i'll
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Speaker 1: be a surfer with a shark. Scar it gives me,
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Speaker 1: prestige she. Said there was no food or blood in
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Speaker 1: the water at the time of the, attack and there
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Speaker 1: was a large group of tourists snorkeling in a shallow.
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Speaker 1: Area we went into his. Habitat it was a sudden.
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Speaker 1: Attack shortly before the same shark had reportedly bitten another
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Speaker 1: swimmer in the swimming, suit so that one was out
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Speaker 1: for more than a. STROLL A minnesota woman has died
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Speaker 1: after getting her arm ripped off by a shark while
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Speaker 1: she swam in The Virgin. Islands Arlene, lilis fifty, six
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Speaker 1: was On Saint croix last week when witnesses heard quote
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Speaker 1: ungodly screaming coming from the Water utah nurse and former
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Speaker 1: Lifeguard Christopher carroll sprinted down from his second floor hotel,
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Speaker 1: room dove into the, sea swammed A, littlis who was
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Speaker 1: floating ten yards out in a pool of. Blood When
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Speaker 1: carol reached, her he saw her left arm had been
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Speaker 1: bitten off below the.
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Speaker 4: Elbow she was still. Conscious she was.
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Speaker 1: Talking carol told The Saint thomas, SOURCE i kept trying
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Speaker 1: to reassure. Her she kept telling, Him i'm going to.
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Speaker 1: Die he was assisted By Ryan, connott a vacationer From
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Speaker 1: nebraska TRAINED, cpr who also swam. Out they screamed for
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Speaker 1: people to call nine to one. One she told us
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Speaker 1: her name Was. Arlene he said that was about halfway.
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Speaker 1: BACK i think that was the last thing she. Said
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Speaker 1: neither rescuer saw the. Shark by the time they reached the,
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Speaker 1: Beach lilis had lost a significant amount of. Blood she
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Speaker 1: was rushed by ambulance to a local, hospital where officials
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Speaker 1: said she later died from the shark attack On Dorsche
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Speaker 1: beach At Saint. CROIX a second victim was, reported but
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Speaker 1: responders unable to confirm after scouring the. AREA Us Virgin
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Speaker 1: Island's Governor brian said in a. Statement our hearts are
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Speaker 1: with the family and the loved ones of the, victim
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Speaker 1: with everyone who witnessed this. Tragedy there were sixty eight
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Speaker 1: verified shark attacks worldwide in twenty twenty, five eleven, fatalities
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Speaker 1: eleven provoked. Incidents that was down from seventy six shark
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Speaker 1: attacks the year. Before THE us is still the primary.
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Speaker 1: Hotspot twenty eight.
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Speaker 4: Bites five.
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Speaker 1: PROVOKED i don't know what that, means one. Fatal florida
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Speaker 1: leads the nation with fifteen reported bites but zero. Fatalities
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Speaker 1: so sixty eight shark bites world, wide twenty eight of, them.
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Speaker 4: A little more than a third happened in THE. Us
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Speaker 4: let's See florida's.
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Speaker 1: Fifteen SO i don't know about twenty, percent give or,
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Speaker 1: take of the world shark attacks happened In.
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Speaker 1: Proof welcome back to The Clark Eisenhower Outdoor edition for
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Speaker 1: A Thursday glad to have you with. Us coming, up
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Speaker 1: we're going to hear part of a podcast talking about
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Speaker 1: water quality not only along The texas coast but everywhere
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Speaker 1: in the, state which is a huge, issue so stay
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Speaker 1: tuned for. That the rattlesnakes are taking. Over we already knew,
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Speaker 1: that but this Past november In Denton, County Rob, bowles
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Speaker 1: wildlife handler known as a snake Whisperer do you really
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Speaker 1: does it say that on his, card responded to a
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Speaker 1: metroplex who believed a rattlesnake had slithered into her. Garage
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Speaker 1: bulls expected a bull, snake harmless. Species, instead three and
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Speaker 1: a half foot three and a half foot adult Female
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Speaker 1: western diamondback history made right here In North. Texas he
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Speaker 1: said the snake's markings left little room for. Doubt after
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Speaker 1: removing the, Snake bulls planned to submit photographs and documents
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Speaker 1: To eye naturalists And Texas parks And wildlife for. Verification
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Speaker 1: the snake was transferred TO Ut Arlington's Amphibian Reptile Diversity Research,
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Speaker 1: center where it became part of a research collection including
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Speaker 1: six Hundred western diamondback.
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Speaker 4: SPECIES i hope that means he's dead.
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Speaker 1: Now hopefully we can learn more about her and she can.
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Speaker 4: is was.
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Speaker 1: Surprised this is especially odd because of how common the
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Speaker 1: snake usually.
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Speaker 4: Is it's not something that usually eludes.
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Speaker 1: Detection so this specimen is important and interesting because it
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Speaker 1: will form our understanding of not just where the species
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Speaker 1: occurs In, texas but maybe even what its habitat requirements.
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Speaker 4: ARE i, mean, yeah it showed up in the.
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Speaker 1: City these are pretty common, snakes pretty common. SNAKES i
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Speaker 1: encourage you not to call a. HERPETOLOGIST i encourage you
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Speaker 1: to kill every snake you. See, YEAH i, KNOW i
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Speaker 1: know WHAT i just.
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Speaker 4: SAID i stand by. That get them before they get.
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Speaker 1: You trail camera image sent To Raul, alcacer A texas
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Speaker 1: landowner who regularly checks his cameras to keep tabs on,
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Speaker 1: deer hogs all the, Wildlife but when he pulled out
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Speaker 1: one of his camera, cards one image stopped him. COLD a,
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Speaker 1: massive light colored covered in, thick almost woolike hair at
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Speaker 1: first glance did not resemble A faro.
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Speaker 4: Hog in, fact when the image was shown to experience.
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Speaker 1: Hunter and, trapper his first action said was it looks
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Speaker 1: like a polar bear the nickname stuck polar bear.
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Speaker 4: Hog farrell hogs we know about.
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Speaker 1: So genetic cocktail means old trades can, resurface including unusual coat,
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Speaker 1: colors body, size hair. Texture the hog appears to be
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Speaker 1: a rare, throwback like a Strange hungarian and breed of
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Speaker 1: hog that had wooly, hair a blocky, build, says since
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Speaker 1: he's posted the, VIDEO i had several people sending in
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Speaker 1: photos of what looks like a descendant of this. Breed pale,
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Speaker 1: coloring heavy, build thick, coat almost. UNRECOGNIZABLE i, mean.
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Speaker 4: Do we need like.
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Speaker 1: Another offspring species of hog wandering around the, state this
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Speaker 1: one particularly hairy and.
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Speaker 4: Grizzly if that wasn't enough to worry.
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Speaker 1: ABOUT a deadly parasitic insect that once TERRORIZED us livestock
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Speaker 1: is now closer To texas than it's been in. Decades
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Speaker 1: mexican officials have confirmed the first known case Of New
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Speaker 1: world screwworm in the northern border state Of, tampuulas just
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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety seven miles south Of. Texas the
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Speaker 1: infection detected last week on a six day calf Sid
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Speaker 1: Miller State Agriculture commissioner says the continued detections Of New
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Speaker 1: world screwworm near The texas border are grim reminders of
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Speaker 1: the serious threat this pest. Poses the fly, larva which
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Speaker 1: can burrow into living, flesh poses a severe threat to, livestock, wildlife, pets.
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Speaker 4: And in rare, cases.
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Speaker 1: Humans once eggs are laid in an open, wound the
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Speaker 1: larva hatch and feed on living. Tissue this doesn't sound
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Speaker 1: good at. All Mexico's National service Of Agro Elementary health
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Speaker 1: confirmed the detection has activated quarantine protocols aimed at stopping further.
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Speaker 1: Spread THE us continues to block all cattle impults worts From.
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Speaker 1: Mexico earlier this, month a twenty two month old bovine
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Speaker 1: transported From Vera cruz To Nueva leone tested positive for.
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Speaker 1: Screwworm In, october another case was found In Nueva, leone
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Speaker 1: seventy miles From South. Texas the, consequences, well they're. LARGE
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Speaker 1: i mean billions of dollars in the cattle and the hunting,
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Speaker 1: Industry miller, says in coordination With, mexico this northward spread
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Speaker 1: has been. Halted this recent case promises to be at
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Speaker 1: one off for, now but to fully eradicate the, threat
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Speaker 1: the bottom line remains.
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Speaker 4: Unchanged we need sterile.
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Speaker 1: FLIES usda has begun building a sterile fly dispersal facility In,
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Speaker 1: edinburgh expected to come online sometime this. Year there's also
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Speaker 1: been one constructed elsewhere In South texas designed to produce
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Speaker 1: up to three hundred million sterile flies a, week a
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Speaker 1: method credited with eliminating screwworm from THE us in the twentieth.
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Speaker 1: Century get them before they get. YOU a mischievous monkey
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Speaker 1: who damaged musical instruments at A tennessee guitar shop fortunately
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Speaker 1: is in custody after an hour's long monkey. Hunt the
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Speaker 1: furry fellon a cinnamon capuchin native to Central South. America
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Speaker 1: was Caught sunday after being spotted rampaging through The Trade
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Speaker 1: center music shop In, Morristown. Tennessee small business owners call
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Speaker 1: police around eight am to report the, damage which security
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Speaker 1: footage revealed was caused by that's a little. Primate images
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Speaker 1: release him leaning over a guitar stead while peering into
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Speaker 1: a glass full of effects pedals and A Fender strato
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Speaker 1: cask or another guitars standing. Nearby do not touch That fender,
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Speaker 1: stratocaster mister. Monkey then we've got some serious things going.
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Speaker 1: On after a search of the, area the monkey was
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Speaker 1: finally Caught sunday. Night doesn't say what happened to. IT
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Speaker 1: i suspect the villagers had a great grill monkey. Dinner oh,
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Speaker 1: no wait This. Tennessee, Nope i'll stand by WHAT i.
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Speaker 1: SAID a woman was killed in a suspected mountain lion
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Speaker 1: attack while she was hiking alone in Northern colorado last,
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Speaker 1: week and what would be the first fatal attack by
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Speaker 1: a mountain lion of more than twenty five. Years wildlife
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Speaker 1: officers later in the day located two mountain lions in
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Speaker 1: the area and fatally shot. Them so this story has
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Speaker 1: a semi happy, ending although a life was. Lost the
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Speaker 1: attack occurred in the mountains south Of Glen, haven seven
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Speaker 1: miles northeast Of Estes park gateway of the eastern entrance
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Speaker 1: Of Rocky Mountain National, park AND i don't doubt there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of mountain lions in that area because there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of game in that. Area two hikers accounting
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Speaker 1: encountered a mountain lion near the woman's body along a
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Speaker 1: remote section of the. Trail the hikers through rocks at
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Speaker 1: the animal to scare it from the area to try
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Speaker 1: to help the. Woman one of the hikers was a
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Speaker 1: doctor who attended the victim but did not find a.
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Speaker 1: Pulse the details on the injuries and caused death not.
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Speaker 1: Released the search for other mountain lions in the. Area
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Speaker 1: ongoing circumstances would dictate whether any additional lions that are
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Speaker 1: found are. Killed sightings are common in the area where
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Speaker 1: the attack, occurred but there have not been any recent
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Speaker 1: documented attacks on.
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Speaker 4: Humans it's a very.
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Speaker 1: Common time of year to take mountain lion sidings and
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Speaker 1: reports where there's a very good mountain lion. Habitat trails
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Speaker 1: in the area are pretty, remote it's, wooded it's. Rocky
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Speaker 1: the last suspected mountain lion attack In. Colorado the fatal
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Speaker 1: attack was nineteen ninety nine on a three year. Old
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Speaker 1: two years before, that a ten year old boy was
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Speaker 1: killed In Rocky Mountain National.
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Speaker 4: Park so remember all this when you're hiking in that.
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Speaker 1: Area i've been in that area a, lot beautiful, area
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Speaker 1: but be very careful up.
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Speaker 4: There you know What i'm. Saying and we'll in with this.
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Speaker 1: TODAY A california homeowner has threatened to sue the state
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Speaker 1: Of department Of fish And wildlife for their failure to
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Speaker 1: remove a five hundred and fifty pounds black bear living
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Speaker 1: under his. House Kenneth johnson discovered the bear had taken
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Speaker 1: up residence in the crawl space of his million dollar
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Speaker 1: plus home just Before. Thanksgiving The California department Of Fishing
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Speaker 1: wilelife attempted to capture the beast with bait and. Noisemakers
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Speaker 1: their efforts were. Unsuccessful they trapped a small bear. INSTEAD
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Speaker 1: i knew my bear hadn't gone out Because i've got
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Speaker 1: enough cameras on, it Said. Johnson the department tagged and
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Speaker 1: released the smaller, bear But johnson said the big bear
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Speaker 1: is still terrorizing his home and he wants him.
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Speaker 4: Out he set.
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Speaker 1: Up a burglar alarm with foam so it makes a clattering,
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Speaker 1: sound and BURN CDs with hours of dog barking. Audio
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Speaker 1: IF i kept track of EVERYTHING i, tried it would
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Speaker 1: Be bear fourteen homeowner, nothing Said. Johnson he's threatening to
26:21
Speaker 1: soothe the, department accusing officials of negligence and emotional distress
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Speaker 1: after he claimed they told him to stand down on his.
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Speaker 4: EFFORTS i feel. Defeated it's all up to.
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Speaker 1: Me i'm supposed to watch my phone when he comes
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Speaker 1: out in the middle of the, night or sleep in the.
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Speaker 1: Kitchen this has gone on long. Enough it's something they
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Speaker 1: should deal. With it's a tagged. Bear they've dealt with it.
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Speaker 1: Before they've chosen not to euthanize. It of course they.
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Speaker 1: Have It's, california and now it's, back and it just
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Speaker 1: keeps going. ON a spokesman, Said, however they're commit despite
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Speaker 1: very limited.
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Speaker 1: most of you who know anything about The Gulf coast
32:09
Speaker 1: know about The Heart Research institute At Corpus. Christy if
32:13
Speaker 1: it has to do with salt, water they are involved, plants,
32:18
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32:26
Speaker 4: Podcast you can go on and listen to a number of.
32:31
Speaker 1: Subjects but we've clipped a little bit out of that
32:34
Speaker 1: today With Jay clayburgh visiting With Sarah. Slessinger she is
32:42
Speaker 1: with The Texas Water. Foundation, NOW i will tell you
32:46
Speaker 1: this may get a little nerdy in, parts but in
32:51
Speaker 1: my mind it's worth to. Listen water is a huge
32:54
Speaker 1: issue in the state Of. Texas the legislature is finally
33:00
Speaker 1: they realize that they've set aside money for.
33:03
Speaker 4: It it is.
33:04
Speaker 1: Critical in the, days, weeks, months and years to come
33:08
Speaker 1: because of all the, population all the people we.
33:11
Speaker 4: Have moving in. Here it's critical for.
33:16
Speaker 1: The health of the waters where you fish along The texas.
33:20
Speaker 1: Coast it's hugely. Critical we have talked for many years
33:25
Speaker 1: about the issues In florida and The, everglades and when
33:30
Speaker 1: they look up and look, around it's almost too late
33:34
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33:37
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33:40
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33:44
Speaker 1: to clean up the water. There so give a listen
33:49
Speaker 1: To Jay, Clayburg Sarah schlessinger of The Texas Water, foundation
33:54
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34:00
Speaker 13: The state created a fund from which individual communities can
34:06
Speaker 13: take out low interest loans and that goes through the state,
34:09
Speaker 13: Agency Texas water devel On. Board and that's fairly consistent
34:12
Speaker 13: and it is also. Smart texas has done a remarkable
34:17
Speaker 13: job of setting up really sophisticated financing structures for. Water
34:21
Speaker 13: the problem, is and this is what this session, addressed
34:25
Speaker 13: is that most of those funding programs were, eight, nine
34:28
Speaker 13: ten times oversubscribed because the demand was so high that
34:32
Speaker 13: it was outpacing the money that was available in these individual.
34:36
Speaker 13: Funds So Texas Watervill, board as a state, agency is non.
34:39
Speaker 13: Regulatory they do the, funding so they act as a.
34:42
Speaker 13: Bank they do, Planning they do our state Water, plan
34:45
Speaker 13: and they used to do it top down and contemplated
34:47
Speaker 13: maps where there were pipes coming in from various, places
34:50
Speaker 13: and then in nineteen ninety seven they switched the model
34:52
Speaker 13: and they made it a ground up planning. Process so
34:55
Speaker 13: now it happens within sixteen different regional water planning groups
34:58
Speaker 13: and they look at those supply and demand, curves population
35:01
Speaker 13: and you, know industry demands and ag, demands and they
35:04
Speaker 13: come up with. Strategies what strategies are they going to
35:07
Speaker 13: use to close that supply demand curve or? Gap and
35:11
Speaker 13: then the board receives all of, that compiles it in
35:14
Speaker 13: the State Water, plan and then has a fund called
35:16
Speaker 13: The Swift fund State Water Implementation fund For texas that
35:21
Speaker 13: allows them to apply for low interest. Loans, well so
35:23
Speaker 13: it's not just free, money, Right you're still you're still
35:26
Speaker 13: financing it through, rates but there has to be but
35:30
Speaker 13: it's incentivizing communities to be able to advance some of those.
35:34
Speaker 13: Strategies so last legislative session we talked about water. INFRASTRUCTURE
35:39
Speaker 13: i would say we brought awareness and light to the
35:42
Speaker 13: importance of water infrastructure because it's largely. Invisible it's very
35:46
Speaker 13: hard to make pipes and wastewater systems sexy because it's you,
35:51
Speaker 13: know they're, pipes they're. Underground so last legislative session really
35:54
Speaker 13: brought attention to this concept of water infrastructure and the
35:58
Speaker 13: fact that there were leaky, pipes and they created out
36:01
Speaker 13: of that The Texas Water, fund which was approved by
36:05
Speaker 13: voters on the ballot Through. Prop, six and that was
36:08
Speaker 13: the last. Session this, session they contemplated and passed for
36:12
Speaker 13: the first time a dedicated revenue mechanism for The Texas Water.
36:17
Speaker 13: Funds The Texas water fund sits as this umbrella concept
36:20
Speaker 13: which then distributes funding to a variety of, programs including THE,
36:24
Speaker 13: swift including The Flood Infrastructure fund really important this, summer
36:28
Speaker 13: including ad conservation. Grants, Right so there are various programs and,
36:33
Speaker 13: specifically the legislature approved the allocation of a billion dollars
36:38
Speaker 13: from our sales tax.
36:39
Speaker 2: Revenue, okay so this is existing in sales tax.
36:42
Speaker 13: Correct, Exactly so it's not a new, tax not new. Fees,
36:46
Speaker 13: now this still has to be approved by.
36:48
Speaker 2: Voters can you talk about that as we transition to?
36:52
Speaker 2: Break can you give people an idea of what they can?
36:55
Speaker 2: DO i mean sometimes it feels like it's so. Complicated it, is,
37:00
Speaker 2: yes but it does come down to individual action this
37:04
Speaker 2: fall and people will have an opportunity to vote on.
37:07
Speaker 2: This can you talk about?
37:08
Speaker 13: That so this fall they're going to find a number
37:11
Speaker 13: of constitutional amendments on the. Ballot this is not a
37:14
Speaker 13: high voter turnout. Election and one of those is going
37:20
Speaker 13: to Be proposition for which is specifically to authorize the
37:24
Speaker 13: one billion dollar allocation to The Texas Water, fund which
37:27
Speaker 13: was previously.
37:29
Speaker 2: Created And, sarah is that a billion dollars in a
37:34
Speaker 2: year or is it a billion dollars over a period of?
37:36
Speaker 13: Time that's, right it's a billion dollars a year over twenty.
37:39
Speaker 13: Years so the way that that joint resolution was drafted
37:44
Speaker 13: is that it's sunseted after twenty, years but really just
37:47
Speaker 13: to give them an opportunity to revise, it to reassess.
37:51
Speaker 13: It now zooming, out this is not a new. Concept
37:55
Speaker 13: the way that we fund our fund our roads and,
37:57
Speaker 13: bridges critical. Infrastructure again that all of the participate is
38:00
Speaker 13: exactly in this. Manner there's a portion of our SALES
38:03
Speaker 13: tac that gets allocated into a, fund as you know
38:07
Speaker 13: better than anybody right that gets allocated to these Different
38:10
Speaker 13: so this is just following a similar path as we
38:13
Speaker 13: do other statewide critical. Infrastructure AND i, think going back
38:17
Speaker 13: to the beginning of our, conversation that is in part
38:19
Speaker 13: because water has never felt as valuable as it does,
38:23
Speaker 13: now and so the fact that there is now pressure
38:26
Speaker 13: and understanding around water, supply population, growth, aging, infrastructure the
38:31
Speaker 13: variety of socioeconomic and industry impacts that this has is
38:36
Speaker 13: turning people's awareness and leaderships, awareness legislator's awareness to how
38:41
Speaker 13: important it is to prioritize dedicated. Funding SO i think
38:45
Speaker 13: the question in terms of how there's a very obvious
38:50
Speaker 13: opportunity for people to contemplate that decision in terms of
38:54
Speaker 13: the constitutional, Amendment but beyond, THAT i would say the
38:58
Speaker 13: opportunity is really For texans to reflect on and to
39:03
Speaker 13: identify ways to say water security is important and that
39:08
Speaker 13: they are willing to invest in it over a long
39:10
Speaker 13: period of, Time and that really takes a values shift
39:14
Speaker 13: in the way that people have previously thought about a.
39:18
Speaker 13: Resource AND i think that we're at a really interesting
39:21
Speaker 13: place right now In. Texas regardless of where you, live
39:25
Speaker 13: where how we value water is going to materialize in
39:30
Speaker 13: a number of decisions such as bond, elections approving investment
39:37
Speaker 13: in water, infrastructure who you are voting into, office how
39:42
Speaker 13: you are choosing to develop your, communities land use, regulations
39:46
Speaker 13: DARE i? Say and SO i think all of those
39:50
Speaker 13: are examples of Where texans will be able to lean
39:53
Speaker 13: in and have a conversation around water security and the
39:57
Speaker 13: types of decisions that are being, made regardless of whether
40:00
Speaker 13: they are engaged in direct advocacy or with the grassroots,
40:03
Speaker 13: organizations but even on a very practical scale at their utility,
40:07
Speaker 13: level what type of strategies are they, adopting what type
40:12
Speaker 13: of strategies are they? Financing and what's really neat About
40:16
Speaker 13: texas is that the way that we, govern the way
40:20
Speaker 13: that we manage is actually dec is constructed to allow
40:25
Speaker 13: for public, participation even though Most texans don't realize that
40:29
Speaker 13: they have an invitation to do, that but there is
40:30
Speaker 13: an opportunity to participate in regional water, planning to participate
40:34
Speaker 13: at the, utilities to participate in your groundwater. Districts SO
40:38
Speaker 13: i think there's a lot of ways That texans can.
40:40
Speaker 13: Participate but really the root of that is do we
40:43
Speaker 13: value water and water infrastructure and we should unpack what
40:47
Speaker 13: infrastructure is, right BECAUSE i think that sometimes that gets
40:49
Speaker 13: misunderstood sufficiently to invest in it, right whatever that means,
40:54
Speaker 13: Right AND i think that's the big moment that we
40:57
Speaker 13: find ourselves.
40:57
Speaker 2: In it's a huge moment if if you think about
41:00
Speaker 2: the history Of texas and help me out here as
41:03
Speaker 2: far as the details, go but you look at things
41:08
Speaker 2: like the hurricane that Hit, galveston flooding in the early
41:13
Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds and really investment in trying to control water
41:20
Speaker 2: and it's devastating. EFFECTS i would argue that was kind
41:24
Speaker 2: of the, story if you, will the first part of
41:26
Speaker 2: the nineteen, hundreds and then you go through the, thirties,
41:30
Speaker 2: forties and fifties with extreme drought in the, fifties, right
41:35
Speaker 2: and this realization that it's not always going to be,
41:39
Speaker 2: there and so we need to build infrastructure not just
41:43
Speaker 2: for water availability and water, supply but also in some
41:48
Speaker 2: instances in the highland lakes to generate power for the hill,
41:52
Speaker 2: country for growing. Population and we happen to have a
41:56
Speaker 2: president From, texas from The Hill, country and so, now
42:00
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of stuff that's happened between the
42:02
Speaker 2: fifties and. Now but to your, point a lot of
42:06
Speaker 2: that investment that we see today that we're benefiting, from
42:09
Speaker 2: was in the, seventies like in the mid, seventies and
42:13
Speaker 2: we now have tens of millions of people In texas
42:16
Speaker 2: that we didn't have at that time with skyrocketing, growth
42:21
Speaker 2: and it's not just you, know someone asked me why
42:24
Speaker 2: do we need? Water AND i know it was, theoretical
42:28
Speaker 2: like it was a question about why can't we just
42:32
Speaker 2: deal with the water that we have? Today it was
42:36
Speaker 2: it was a question about new supply, right whether that's
42:40
Speaker 2: getting it from the ocean or brackish wells or, conservation
42:45
Speaker 2: whatever it. Is BUT i think the real question was
42:48
Speaker 2: it was kind of philosophical about where we're going as
42:51
Speaker 2: a state and this idea that we can continue to
42:55
Speaker 2: grow both economically and from a population, perspective but we
43:00
Speaker 2: have to invest in. That to your, point it can't
43:03
Speaker 2: just be solely at the local, level like we have
43:07
Speaker 2: to have a larger mechanism to do. That and IF
43:10
Speaker 2: i understood what you. Said that is partly what we're voting.
43:14
Speaker 2: On this fall is at least a mechanism where the
43:17
Speaker 2: state doesn't have to always rely on.
43:23
Speaker 4: Federal.
43:23
Speaker 2: Funding that they can rely on existing sales tax. Revenue
43:27
Speaker 2: this isn't a new, tax that's, right and so people
43:30
Speaker 2: have a chance to get engaged in. That and then
43:33
Speaker 2: you mentioned, it but can you say a little bit
43:35
Speaker 2: more about you know so much about. WATER i think
43:39
Speaker 2: people are learning. More but wherever you are In, texas
43:42
Speaker 2: how can you get involved in, this whether you want
43:44
Speaker 2: to learn, more you want to actually.
43:46
Speaker 13: Participate, well, gosh you we need to unpack everything you just,
43:50
Speaker 13: said because there's so much staff, no, no so much
43:55
Speaker 13: so important to think about it from the historical, arc,
43:59
Speaker 13: because first of, all you are absolutely, right so much
44:02
Speaker 13: of how we have interacted our. RELATIONSHIP i mean that
44:05
Speaker 13: sounds Very our relationship with water has been very influenced
44:10
Speaker 13: by the weather, patterns by what we've experienced, generationally what
44:15
Speaker 13: the context, was and we are in a very new
44:19
Speaker 13: chapter For. Texas so in the early nineteen hundreds you
44:24
Speaker 13: had a series of catastrophic floods that then turned into
44:28
Speaker 13: the passage of The Conservation. Amendment in nineteen, seventeen which
44:32
Speaker 13: allows specifically a couple of. Things one for public entities
44:36
Speaker 13: to be created to build the infrastructure to safeguard right
44:40
Speaker 13: the responsibility to plan for the future Of texans and their.
44:43
Speaker 13: Safety and two to be for those entities to be
44:47
Speaker 13: able to take on public debt in order to do.
44:50
Speaker 13: SO i, mean those are two of the big important
44:53
Speaker 13: outputs that came from The Conservation. Amendment so when you
44:56
Speaker 13: think about today's river authorities that generate, electricity manage and
45:01
Speaker 13: control our, rivers thinking about things like flood they have
45:07
Speaker 13: the ability to take on debt because of the response
45:10
Speaker 13: That texans were feeling after tragic and catastrophic.
45:14
Speaker 2: Floods this is The Low Caulder River, Authority Guadalli Blanco River.
45:20
Speaker 2: Authority you, say all of those.
45:23
Speaker 13: That kind of at that, Time, yeah and so there
45:25
Speaker 13: was kind of a generation where Suddenly texans were thinking, about,
45:32
Speaker 13: oh we should be managing to protect us from, risk
45:36
Speaker 13: and we should have the ability to finance or invest
45:39
Speaker 13: in those. Systems and then flash forward to get you're,
45:42
Speaker 13: right in nineteen, fifties terrible drought all of a sudden
45:45
Speaker 13: that kind of coincides with the proliferation of better technology
45:50
Speaker 13: to drill and pump, groundwater and so all of a,
45:53
Speaker 13: sudden there's this huge amount of groundwater that's, available and
45:57
Speaker 13: there's a need to manage it right and to manage
45:59
Speaker 13: it out of the drought that they're. Experiencing and so
46:02
Speaker 13: you had the State water plan starting to come out
46:04
Speaker 13: in the nineteen, fifties you had the first groundwater districts being,
46:07
Speaker 13: created then so and then flash forward again the late.
46:11
Speaker 13: NINETIES i, mean all of these are responsive to floods
46:13
Speaker 13: and to. Droughts and what's DIFFERENT i think about right
46:17
Speaker 13: now is that while there are on the surface these
46:20
Speaker 13: pressure points of population growth and, industry the fact That
46:23
Speaker 13: texas has the eighth or seventh That cadlou's Track strut's
46:27
Speaker 13: economy in the, world driven by industries that are very
46:30
Speaker 13: dependent on, water we're suddenly contemplating is there enough and
46:35
Speaker 13: how are we diversifying and how will we have more.
46:38
Speaker 13: Supply so to the next part of your conversation around
46:42
Speaker 13: desalination versus these various, STRATEGIES i encourage people to think
46:51
Speaker 13: about water supply and water strategies as interconnected but slightly different.
46:57
Speaker 13: Things your water supply are things like your groundwater the
47:03
Speaker 13: ocean that's right next to, us right the rainwater things
47:06
Speaker 13: that are in our surface water, bodies and the strategies
47:09
Speaker 13: that you use are things like desalination or reuse or
47:13
Speaker 13: brackish desalination or aquifer storage and. Recovery these are strategies
47:18
Speaker 13: that we use to, manage, treat and, distribute and then
47:21
Speaker 13: there's treatment facilities as, well and then you're getting into
47:24
Speaker 13: the technical pieces of. It but the reason why that
47:26
Speaker 13: differentiation is important is because right now you're going to
47:29
Speaker 13: hear a lot of conversation around us needing additional, supply
47:33
Speaker 13: and that is true for most. Communities they need either
47:35
Speaker 13: additional supply or they need to reduce their risk because
47:38
Speaker 13: they're reliant on a singular. SUPPLY a number of Our
47:41
Speaker 13: Riar Grand valley communities are singularly dependent on The Rear
47:44
Speaker 13: grand and that is no longer a reliable water. SOURCE
47:48
Speaker 13: a number of our rural communities Across texas are singularly
47:51
Speaker 13: reliant on groundwater and that is, very very high, risk
47:55
Speaker 13: particularly as you see those aquivera levels declining as we
47:58
Speaker 13: endure long, drought where people are then predominantly using groundwater
48:04
Speaker 13: and pumping from. It so then the strategies that we
48:07
Speaker 13: get to use are ways that you diversify that. Risk
48:10
Speaker 13: it's ways that you can treat store develop and those
48:15
Speaker 13: strategies are really, expensive, right particularly when you're talking about
48:19
Speaker 13: things like, desalination and desalination can be kind of a
48:22
Speaker 13: third rail for a lot of, people right because there's
48:24
Speaker 13: a lot of it's very context specific and it's very
48:27
Speaker 13: governance specific as. Well desalination is just a. Technology it's
48:31
Speaker 13: a filter with a lot of pressure moving through it
48:33
Speaker 13: where you're removing a certain amount OF tds out of the. Water.
48:35
Speaker 13: Right the same thing is used In West texas where
48:38
Speaker 13: you have brackish groundwater using a desalination, process and the
48:42
Speaker 13: same thing is probably used for produced water as. Well
48:45
Speaker 13: it's just a. Filter is a filter is a. Filter
48:47
Speaker 13: it's just how tight is the membrane and how much
48:49
Speaker 13: pressure is going through. It but the scale at which
48:53
Speaker 13: you're producing and the cost of that production and the
48:56
Speaker 13: energy consumption in it is going to determine how viable
48:59
Speaker 13: of a strategy it is for any particular, community which
49:01
Speaker 13: goes back to our economies of, scale. Right so a
49:03
Speaker 13: lot of these strategies that are, available which are good
49:06
Speaker 13: strategies if they are governed, correctly if the right regulations
49:09
Speaker 13: are in, place if you have the appropriate workforce for,
49:12
Speaker 13: it are then just a matter of cost and how
49:14
Speaker 13: are you going to finance? Them SO i think that you,
49:17
Speaker 13: know beyond this constitutional amendment in the, fall where we're
49:21
Speaker 13: going to be talking about Do texans value water infrastructure
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Speaker 13: sufficiently to allocate a billion dollars from our annual sales
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Speaker 13: tax revenue into The Texas Water fund to finance our water.
49:34
Speaker 13: Infrastructure beyond that is going to be which strategies should be, used,
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Speaker 13: when how, right and in what and in what, Combination
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Speaker 13: and that is the good news is that there are
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Speaker 13: a lot of people involved in that, Conversation so there's
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Speaker 13: there's a lot going on there AND i THINK i
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Speaker 13: think there's still going to be a lot of interesting
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Speaker 13: conversation well past this.
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Speaker 2: Year well it's it's critically, important as you have, illustrated
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Speaker 2: and it's comple lo, caated BUT i Think texans are
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Speaker 2: are going to learn more about not only its, importance
50:08
Speaker 2: but what they can do to learn. More they have
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Speaker 2: a say in, this certainly at the local level as,
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Speaker 2: well as you, mentioned with all of these different, strategies
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Speaker 2: AND i think we're fortunate In texas to have people
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Speaker 2: like you that are focused on this issue continue to
50:25
Speaker 2: be and what seems to be a growing interest in
50:33
Speaker 2: managing that risk and also figuring out a way to
50:38
Speaker 2: balance right balance growth with resilience and sustainability and all of.
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Speaker 2: That so any parting words of wisdom or, thoughts anything
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Speaker 2: that that maybe we.
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Speaker 13: Missed parting words of wisdom feels like a lot of.
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Speaker 13: Pressure i'm not sure how wise it's going.
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Speaker 4: To, be but maybe party, words party, Words we'll leave it.
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Speaker 13: There you, know while water security is something that All
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Speaker 13: texans should be paying attention, to it is a refreshingly bipartisan.
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Speaker 13: ISSUE i would say it is a challenge between our
51:15
Speaker 13: urban and rural, communities and that has tended to be
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Speaker 13: the case for water In. Texas at the local, scale
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Speaker 13: there's a lot of agency and there is a lot
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Speaker 13: of opportunity to lean in and to understand the exact
51:30
Speaker 13: nuances of what your water supply. Is if you don't
51:33
Speaker 13: know your water, supply AND i mean, supply not, strategies
51:37
Speaker 13: you should learn about. It if you don't know who
51:40
Speaker 13: is managing your water and that is now the governance,
51:44
Speaker 13: Question and so SPECIFICALLY i would. Advise get to know
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Speaker 13: who your utility. Is if you have a, utility maybe
51:50
Speaker 13: you're on a groundwater. Well get to know your groundwater.
51:53
Speaker 13: District get to know your river, authority get to know
51:56
Speaker 13: the state. Agencies the state Agencies Texas water Vone, BOARD, TCQ.
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Speaker 13: Puc those are large and it's hard to wrap your head.
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Speaker 13: Around but at the local, scale it's a lot easier
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Speaker 13: to start to understand what your local water landscape is
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Speaker 13: and the humans that are interacting with, it because it,
52:15
Speaker 13: REALLY i mean my bias is that water is human
52:20
Speaker 13: in terms of how it's, managed how it's, allocated and
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Speaker 13: so be thoughtful about the governance that is in, place
52:27
Speaker 13: be thoughtful about the workforce opportunities around. It that is
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Speaker 13: a huge opportunity In texas right now is fir us
52:32
Speaker 13: to think differently about what our water workforce looks like
52:35
Speaker 13: going into the, future and certainly be thoughtful about how
52:40
Speaker 13: it is that you're prioritizing it within whatever decisions you can.
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Speaker 13: Make right in terms of communities that get authorized to
52:47
Speaker 13: build or not to, build and where which industries move
52:51
Speaker 13: into your. Community that is where the Everyday texan has
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Speaker 13: voice and has the opportunity to lean in and not
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Speaker 13: all is not. Lost texas is remarkably ahead of the,
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Speaker 13: curve not just in the, nation but really on a global.
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Speaker 13: Scale and the fact that we have been experiencing and
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Speaker 13: thinking about these pressure points for much longer than other
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Speaker 13: communities have simply by the fact of our geography and our.
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Speaker 3: Weather.
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Speaker 13: Right and so IF i reflect back to my first
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Speaker 13: exposure to water, management which was the middle of a
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Speaker 13: cholera epidemic In, haiti, right how people access, water how
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Speaker 13: you finance, water how you treat, it how you distribute,
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Speaker 2: me BECAUSE i think visually is every watershed in the
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Speaker 2: i THINK i believe we're all connected by water ultimately
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