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The New Year's Eve Kiss & the Shock Baby Announcement · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Molly May's
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  Speaker 1: shock midnight kiss with Tommy Fury, Chloe Zep turns lifesaver,
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  Speaker 1: and why grapes are having a viral moment. But first,
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  Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers' ex-husband, Justin McCann, has shocked the internet with
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  Speaker 1: news he's expecting a baby with his on-again, off-again bachelor
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  Speaker 1: star girlfriend, Tani Leeson. The bizarre twist comes just weeks
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  Speaker 1: after Justin reportedly vanished before he was due to appear
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  Speaker 1: in court to face theft charges. His former employer alleges
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  Speaker 1: he stole almost $ 500, 000 whilst working as head of finance
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  Speaker 1: to fuel a drug problem. Now, despite Justin's legal woes,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't appear that any expense was spared when it
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  Speaker 1: came to sharing the baby news. So the couple hired
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  Speaker 1: a photographer to capture a very glamorous beachside pregnancy shoot.
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  Speaker 1: My jaw was literally on the floor when these photos
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  Speaker 1: popped up in my feed. I could not believe it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we did speculate last week that the former
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  Speaker 1: couple were back together after Tani shared photos of her
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  Speaker 1: and Justin out at a lavish influencer event. We now
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  Speaker 1: know that those photos were intended as a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a soft launch to say we're back together before dropping
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  Speaker 1: this massive bombshell. Now we need to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: Instagram post. So Tani captioned the photo, starting the new
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  Speaker 1: year with the most exciting news to date. Cannot believe
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  Speaker 1: how much we love you already. So grateful you chose us.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting to note that Justin has created a new
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  Speaker 1: Instagram account. So back when all the news broke about
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  Speaker 1: this alleged theft, He deleted his Instagram account and also
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  Speaker 1: his LinkedIn. But he is back on a very private
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  Speaker 1: account with very few followers. Well, because his original account,
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  Speaker 1: he had around 10,000 followers on there. So you could
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  Speaker 1: have called him a bit of a micro-influencer. It's quite
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  Speaker 1: interesting because Tani only has 6,000 followers. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's because of the time she went on The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: It's when people weren't really interested. She didn't make it
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  Speaker 1: that far. But yeah, I find it fascinating that he's
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  Speaker 1: basically gone and made a new Instagram account up. probably
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  Speaker 1: to break this news. Yeah. I mean, he was a
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  Speaker 1: collaborator on the post and he also commented on the
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  Speaker 1: post saying, you're going to be an amazing mom. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait. It's not the best look that he's created
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  Speaker 1: this fresh account because it kind of looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: trying to hide stuff on his old account. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's deleted it based on advice from his legal team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so many people were following him. Every move
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  Speaker 1: is bound to be tracked while this court case plays out. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more what he posted previously may be
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  Speaker 1: used against him. And maybe messages that were on the
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  Speaker 1: account so it's easier to delete it because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think his legal team would be like, oh yeah, go
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  Speaker 1: make up a new account. I want to discuss the
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  Speaker 1: strategy of this photo as well because I personally feel
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  Speaker 1: like not enough thought was put into how these photos
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  Speaker 1: were going to land with the general public. And I
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  Speaker 1: might be stereotyping here, but generally, as someone who has
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  Speaker 1: just shared a baby announcement recently, it is the woman
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  Speaker 1: who is the one driving the theme and the style
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  Speaker 1: of this post. And when your partner is up on
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  Speaker 1: theft charges- and very hefty ones at that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why you would think it's a good idea to
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  Speaker 1: have such an over-the-top stylized announcement because in the photos,
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  Speaker 1: they were literally frolicking on a beach and Tani was
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  Speaker 1: wearing a very flowy white two-piece outfit. Justin was wearing
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  Speaker 1: a matching white shirt. It all looked very stylized and
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  Speaker 1: thought out. You know, if you looked at those photos,
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  Speaker 1: you would think this couple does not have a care
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  Speaker 1: in the world. It was just awkward, wasn't it? Because
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  Speaker 1: everyone knows that they've got a lot of cares in
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  Speaker 1: the world. Are they purposely trying to look unfazed by
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  Speaker 1: the controversy to somewhat remove themselves from it? I feel
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  Speaker 1: quite bad for Tani in this situation. I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: hasn't done anything wrong. She looked quite heavily pregnant in
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  Speaker 1: the photo, more pregnant than most people are when they
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  Speaker 1: announce their pregnancy news. So you can see this has
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  Speaker 1: probably been weighing on her. There's probably been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of discussions. How do we actually break this to the
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  Speaker 1: public that we're having a baby together? You know what, though?
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  Speaker 1: The biggest trend or the new trend coming forward for
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  Speaker 1: baby announcements is apparently people not doing them and just
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  Speaker 1: turning up with a baby. Yeah, it's called raw-dogging your
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy announcement. Yeah, but they could have got away with
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  Speaker 1: doing that, but I... I just feel like they've given
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  Speaker 1: the media more fodder to write articles about them because
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  Speaker 1: they've got these new photos of the couple together. So
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  Speaker 1: how would you have done it then? Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know any other way they could have done it without
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  Speaker 1: creating the same amount of hype around it. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have done a glamorous photo shoot on a beach.
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  Speaker 1: I would have done something a bit more toned back
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  Speaker 1: and casual. I mean, think about Matt Paul. He and
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  Speaker 1: his partner just did a selfie in a mirror and
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  Speaker 1: it looked very stripped back, very casual. If I was Tani,
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  Speaker 1: I would have spent more time building up their relationship
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  Speaker 1: because I know she did that photo dump in December
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  Speaker 1: and he featured in it. And that was shocking enough
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  Speaker 1: because it was clear the couple broke up mid last
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  Speaker 1: year and we didn't even know, well, the general public
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that they were back together. So I probably
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  Speaker 1: would have breadcrumbed a little bit more about them being
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  Speaker 1: back together before just dropping the bomb that they were pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: I think it must have got to the point though
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  Speaker 1: where she couldn't hide the pregnancy anymore and she knew
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  Speaker 1: that there were a lot of eyeballs on Justin and
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  Speaker 1: consequently her So can you imagine if the paparazzi got
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  Speaker 1: shots of her looking quite pregnant and everyone would have
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  Speaker 1: been like, well, where is Justin? What's happening? Well, he's
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  Speaker 1: living in Perth at the moment, which is a new
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  Speaker 1: factor to this. And Tani has spent the festive season
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  Speaker 1: over there. She is from Melbourne. It'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see if she stays in Perth. Now, getting back to
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  Speaker 1: their relationship timeline, that's quite interesting because one listener in
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  Speaker 1: our Facebook group claimed that Justin was on Bumble as
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  Speaker 1: recently as August. And she alleged that her friend matched
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  Speaker 1: with Justin and went on a date. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: all speculation, but this listener claims that during the date,
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  Speaker 1: Justin was said to have spoken about his split from
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  Speaker 1: Tani and confided that she was living with a guy
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  Speaker 1: in his 50s. The listener also claimed that he spent
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  Speaker 1: most of the night name dropping about the D-grade celebrities
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  Speaker 1: he knew and that it was the most bizarre date
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  Speaker 1: of her life. Now, another listener also claimed that one
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  Speaker 1: of her friends also matched with Justin and And he
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  Speaker 1: asked if she wanted to get KFC with him at
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  Speaker 1: midnight on a random Wednesday night. Look, I do want
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  Speaker 1: to reiterate that that is pure speculation and allegations that
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  Speaker 1: are not proven, but very interesting if those rumours are true.
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  Speaker 1: And it does look like Justin and Tani got back
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  Speaker 1: together for the sake of this child. Mm-hmm. I'm just disappointed, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: because we did our 2025 predictions last week. This was
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  Speaker 1: definitely not one of them. This was not on my
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  Speaker 1: bingo card for 2025. But we did predict that the
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  Speaker 1: Justin McKeon story would probably be one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: this year. And it is not disappointing at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that Olivia Rogers is pretty happy that Tani
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  Speaker 1: put up this pregnancy photo shoot because now the media
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  Speaker 1: are actually using photos of Justin and Tani together as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to Justin and Olivia. It does take the focus
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  Speaker 1: off her. This news also puts into perspective that TikTok
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about last week. So for those who
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  Speaker 1: missed it, there is a TikTok that's circulating of Natasha
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  Speaker 1: Thomas and Olivia Rogers. And it's them talking with the
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  Speaker 1: caption about having like a big dirty gossip session. So
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  Speaker 1: it turns out that Natasha Thomas was at the influencer
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  Speaker 1: event that Tani and Justin were at in December. So
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  Speaker 1: perhaps Natasha was filling in Olivia on the news. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like things could have got a bit awkward in
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  Speaker 1: Perth over the festive season as well, because Olivia was
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  Speaker 1: in Perth with her new boyfriend who as you guys
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  Speaker 1: touched on last week, is the spitting image of Justin.
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  Speaker 1: So he is also a Perth boy. Can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: if they all ran into each other at the local shops?
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  Speaker 1: I know Perth is bigger than that. Although we are
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  Speaker 1: having a bit of a joke, I did actually feel
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  Speaker 1: for Olivia when this pregnancy announcement came out because although
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  Speaker 1: she has gracefully moved on, It would be hard for
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  Speaker 1: this news on top of everything else not to affect
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  Speaker 1: you because she has publicly spoken about how she was
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  Speaker 1: undergoing IVF when she and Justin were still together. And
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  Speaker 1: in a Q & A following their separation, Olivia said,
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  Speaker 1: this has been one of the hardest parts of the
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  Speaker 1: breakup and something I grieve heavily as I was actually
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  Speaker 1: going through fertility treatment in August, September after trying to
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  Speaker 1: fall pregnant for quite a while. And I just think
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  Speaker 1: it would be hard and not human not to feel
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  Speaker 1: anything about your ex-husband's so publicly announcing his baby news
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  Speaker 1: in this way, particularly if that was a struggle in
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  Speaker 1: your relationship. It would be really hard, but I think
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  Speaker 1: she'd probably feel very relieved not to be in that situation.
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  Speaker 1: As I said, I am really feeling for Tani because
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  Speaker 1: this is such a shit situation for her to be in.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope that she's not banking on Justin becoming
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  Speaker 1: a father, somehow changing him and it meaning that all
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  Speaker 1: of his issues go out the window. As we discussed
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago is Justin could potentially be facing
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  Speaker 1: jail time. These charges are not criminal charges yet. There's
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  Speaker 1: been reports that the police are looking into these claims,
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  Speaker 1: but if they do turn into criminal charges, fraud has
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  Speaker 1: a very lengthy jail time. I can't help but feel
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  Speaker 1: for Tani. And I wonder if this announcement is a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a tactic for court, because is there going
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  Speaker 1: to be a bit more sympathy if he's got a
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  Speaker 1: baby on the way, even not only from the court,
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  Speaker 1: but in the media as well? Like, hey, this is
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  Speaker 1: a dad, a new dad who needs to move on
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  Speaker 1: with his life and he's trying to He's trying to
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  Speaker 1: be a better person. It's interesting that on the baby
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  Speaker 1: announcement that they didn't actually specify a due date. What
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  Speaker 1: I've taken from these new revelations is that Justin is
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  Speaker 1: going to come out swinging against these allegations. He's not
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  Speaker 1: hiding anymore because initially it felt like he had retreated.
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  Speaker 1: He was off social media. He had somewhat disappeared. People
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  Speaker 1: did not know where he was. But the fact that
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  Speaker 1: his influencer girlfriend is now posting him on her feed,
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  Speaker 1: they did this very ostentatious baby announcement. They're not hiding.
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  Speaker 1: They're not embarrassed by this. They're acting like nothing's happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're acting like they are untouchable. I mean, he has
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  Speaker 1: also hired a very well-known barrister to defend him. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is going to be so fascinating
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  Speaker 1: to see play out. Oh my God, am.
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  Speaker 2: I going to be a little bit reckless? Like, shall
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  Speaker 2: I be a little bit reckless?
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  Speaker 1: Molly Mae and Tommy Fury have sparked reconciliation rumours after
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  Speaker 1: being spotted locking lips on New Year's Eve, just five
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  Speaker 1: months after they announced their shock split. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: can believe it, photos of the former Love Islanders kissing
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  Speaker 1: made front page news in the UK. So the Sun
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  Speaker 1: newspaper ran what they labeled as exclusive pictures of the
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  Speaker 1: midnight kiss, as well as a video on their website,
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  Speaker 1: which quickly made its way to social media. Well, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of makes sense because they have been portrayed as
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  Speaker 1: being the modern day Princess Diana and Prince Charles. And
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  Speaker 1: if there was any sort of reconciliation between the two
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  Speaker 1: of them, the people's princess, that would be front page news. Sophia,
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  Speaker 1: are you okay? Because While there is a lot of
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  Speaker 1: backlash directed at Molly Mae because people are like, why
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  Speaker 1: would she take him back? We have all been rooting
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  Speaker 1: for this to happen, particularly you. I am over the moon.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I think because we haven't actually found out
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  Speaker 1: what he's done, it makes me be able to make
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  Speaker 1: it okay in my head. Like I'm like, maybe he
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  Speaker 1: didn't cheat. Maybe that was all bullshit by the media.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've manifested this because over the Christmas break,
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  Speaker 1: I was watching vlogs of Tommy and Molly on holiday
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, they are so cute. But when
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  Speaker 1: I saw the initial vision, I thought, surely this is
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  Speaker 1: fake because it was so grainy. You couldn't really tell
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  Speaker 1: if it was them or not. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: very clear that it was Tommy Fury, but I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is this some random girl that he's kissing in a nightclub? Also,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Molly May hates to party. What is she
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  Speaker 1: doing out on New Year's Eve? I suppose with AI
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  Speaker 1: these days, you never know what is made up. But
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  Speaker 1: when you watch Molly's vlogs, it's clear that she very
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  Speaker 1: much misses him and that they have also been co-parenting
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  Speaker 1: very maturely. Like you can tell that there's something still
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  Speaker 1: there between them. So I was skeptical about this vision
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  Speaker 1: initially until I actually read The Sun's article and I
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  Speaker 1: found out more about where this video was actually taken.
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  Speaker 1: So the video was filmed inside the New Year's Eve
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  Speaker 1: party of Manchester United player Luke Shaw and his partner
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  Speaker 1: Anushka Santos. And so Molly is friends with Anushka, who
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  Speaker 1: is a fellow influencer. I've heard her talking about her
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  Speaker 1: in her vlogs, actually. I was going to say that
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  Speaker 1: surprised me after her viral interview on the Stephen Bartlett
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  Speaker 1: Diary of a CEO podcast, because She had said how
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't really place much time in making friends and
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't have a large friendship group. And then I'm like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's friends with all of these famous UK people. It's
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  Speaker 1: very Manchester, isn't it? Because obviously Molly's from Manchester. She's
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  Speaker 1: going to a Manchester United party. Most people probably would
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  Speaker 1: have thought, oh, fantastic. She's going to meet a footballer
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  Speaker 1: at this party. So how did Tommy get an invite
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  Speaker 1: to the party? Well, it was actually Molly who apparently
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  Speaker 1: invited Tommy very last minute to this party and Can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine all of the girls that have been like,
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  Speaker 1: just invite him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've got to take my hat off to another
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  Speaker 1: influencer who was also in attendance. Her name is Alicia
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  Speaker 1: Lee May and she gave a great insight into the
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  Speaker 1: party through her TikToks. So this wasn't your typical house party.
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  Speaker 1: It was a catered event. They had very bougie looking
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  Speaker 1: 2025 sunglasses. There was a live band. They also had
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  Speaker 1: beautiful sleek white decorations, plenty of drinks and also karaoke.
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  Speaker 1: And Molly featured in a number of Alicia's TikTok videos,
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  Speaker 1: including one of the guests documenting their first and last
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  Speaker 1: drink of the night. So was Molly actually drinking? Because
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  Speaker 1: she does speak a lot about how she doesn't actually
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  Speaker 1: like alcohol. And that seemed to be a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a contentious issue within their relationship because Tommy likes to
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  Speaker 1: go out and party and she said it really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: interest her at all. Well, in the vision, you can
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  Speaker 1: see Molly drinking a cocktail as her first drink and
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  Speaker 1: her last drink of the night is a shot. Let's
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  Speaker 1: throw to the grab.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Molly and this is my first drink.
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  Speaker 1: This just screams to me someone that is trying to
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  Speaker 1: get their ex back because in a recent vlog, Molly
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  Speaker 1: was talking about how she doesn't really like having fun.
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  Speaker 1: And this was off the back of her going to
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  Speaker 1: her work Christmas party. And she said everyone was dancing
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  Speaker 1: and drinking and she just couldn't get into it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: throw to more of what she said.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many more times I need to
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  Speaker 2: go on, like, a fun evening or a fun trip
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  Speaker 2: or what something would be stereotypically described as fun to
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  Speaker 2: realise that I don't like having fun. I think I
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  Speaker 2: may have realised that actually, like, I really don't, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't like having fun. Like, and I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: saying that to be, like, I feel like that gives
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  Speaker 2: kind of pick-me vibes. Like, I just don't like having fun. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really like the way that sounds. But also, like, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I actually don't. Like, I don't. What's wrong with me? Like, everyone,
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  Speaker 2: when I say everyone, there was, like, 12 of us.
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  Speaker 2: but like everyone last night dancing, having the time of
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  Speaker 2: their lives. And like, I'm bopping. I'm like, I'm getting involved,
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  Speaker 2: but like, I can't fake get up and dance. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong with me? And it's not even like I
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  Speaker 2: want to be a spoil sport or anything, but I just,
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  Speaker 2: it's not that I'm antisocial. It's just that I just
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  Speaker 2: can't seem to let my hair down. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why.
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  Speaker 1: I related heavily to this because I don't drink. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm thinking, is everyone legitimately having fun? Because I
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  Speaker 1: find this so boring and it seemed a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people actually felt seen from this YouTube video because this
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  Speaker 1: clip went viral on TikTok and so many people were saying,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, I'm the same. Well, the thing is
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  Speaker 1: when Molly says she doesn't like fun and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that that's true. I think it's just that she
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't find that particular activity fun. And I think a
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: lot of people When they start entering their 30s, they're
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  Speaker 1: over it. They want to spend their Saturday nights another way. Well,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: we got a bit of an insight from the Sun
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  Speaker 1: newspaper into what Molly was apparently downing before midnight. So
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  Speaker 1: they reported that Molly and her friends were taking shots
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  Speaker 1: from a 110-pound bottle of tequila. So it seems that
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: liquid courage may have actually assisted with this midnight kiss.
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  Speaker 1: I find it so sad that she can't go out
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  Speaker 1: for one night and let her hair down on New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Eve without the sun reporting exactly what she was drinking,
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  Speaker 1: what she was doing. I mean, I know we're chatting
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  Speaker 1: about it now, so that's a little tad hypocritical of me,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: but can't she just have a good time and give
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: her ex-boyfriend a kiss? No, no. I am so happy
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: that the sun is reporting on this. All I want
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: to know is who was the snitch in the party
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: who took that video? I know. Because that was a
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: very private moment, particularly if this is a party, like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: a high-end party where there's, you know, Manchester's people of
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: people there. Like, who took the video? Because she would be,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: they'd be fucking furious about this. Yeah, but if they're
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: just your low-level influencers that are there, of course they're
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: going to take a photo. As you said earlier, she
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: is the people's princess. This was the biggest news that
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: broke when they broke up. Do you know what I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: find so sad? The fact that This person who took
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the video, they're not enjoying ringing in the new year.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They're sitting there thinking, I'm going to take this video
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: as it hits midnight of them kissing. I'm probably going
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to make a fuck ton of money from it. There's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of speculation that maybe Molly's manager, Fran, took
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the vision. And people are saying, well, it's to add
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: more intrigue because she's got a documentary coming out on
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: January 17th. But I think it has to be that somebody,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: as you said, one of these micro-influencers has sold the vision.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But hang on, wasn't the shot just panning of the crowd?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Did they incidentally get them? Because it's not like they
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: knew that they were going to kiss. Well, it did
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: look like that. I thought, oh, maybe someone has shared
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: this on Instagram or something and the sun's grabbed it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: But the fact that the sun has put this as
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: their front page story, it's clear that someone's made a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: lot of money out of this because The Sun keep
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: calling it their exclusive vision. And it's only when media
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: organisations pay for a large sum that they actually want
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to thrash this vision so much. Well, the thing is,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, jokes that maybe Molly's manager, Fran,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: filmed this to create more, I suppose, engagement in this
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: documentary that's coming out. But it seems to have done
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the opposite effect. Whilst there are some fans who are
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: genuinely excited by this news, there's a lot of fans
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: who are pissed off because they are seeing this as,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: an elaborate PR move. So when this breakup first happened,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: people were saying, oh, this is just a PR stunt
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: so that she gets as much publicity for her new brand, maybe.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And that really did happen because that brand sold out instantly. Yeah,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: but I don't think Molly May needs a publicity stunt
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to sell out her clothing line. She's got millions of followers.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying she does. I'm just saying that this
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: has been the reaction from a lot of people. They're upset. See,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I think it is the parasocial relationship at play here
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people When this news broke, particularly
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: because people were accusing Tommy of cheating on Molly, everyone
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: went around and supported Molly Mae. They protected her. So
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's basically like when your friend gets back with their
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: dickhead ex-boyfriend and you're like, what the hell? I've sat here.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I've supported you. I've bagged him out. And now you've
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: run back to him. Well, that's the thing because Tommy
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: has been copying it over this five-month period. He has
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: become one of the most unpopular people on social media ever.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because Molly uploaded a New Year's Eve
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: photo where she looked stunning and she was inundated with
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: negative comments. So one follower wrote, they didn't even really split. Money, money, money.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Whilst another said, using the breakup as PR for maybe
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and Tommy's book and documentary, but snogging Tommy on New
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Convenient. Now she is yet to respond to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the backlash. Her team has also declined to comment to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: The Sun. It'll be interesting to see if she does
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: say anything about the New Year's Eve kiss before the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: launch of her new documentary because she has been sharing
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of her emotions and feelings in her December vlog.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: She's been talking about being very down and upset. That's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: why I personally was so surprised to see this vision
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: pop up. Yeah. Well, there's been more fuel added to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the fire by Tommy because Tommy liked Molly's New Year's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Day Instagram post. She liked his as well. And so
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, well, it mustn't have
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: been just a kiss. And there are also fresh reports
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that Tommy and Molly were spotted at Molly's favorite place,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: which is a shopping center in the UK called the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Trafford Center. They were apparently holding hands. And it's just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: been reported today that Tommy was seen staying the night
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at Molly's place. Apparently, they went to the movies at
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the Trafford Center as well. And it had snowed overnight
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: so Tommy couldn't leave the house. Convenient. Isn't there a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Christmas song about that? It's cold outside. Like maybe it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: cold outside. Look, I know that people are up in
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: arms and you never want to see someone that you
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: like get back with a dickhead ex. But we need
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to remember there is a child involved in this, their
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: daughter Bambi. And that is a big part of the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: reason why I want them to get back together. It
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: also makes sense why Molly never dished the dirt on
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: what he actually did. Like if we think back to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: her sort of explanation video– You could tell she was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: holding back in the hope that maybe they would get
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: back together. Yeah, because once you air your dirty laundry,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: it's really egg on your face if you take them back.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So at the moment, we really don't know what Tommy did.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: The only issue here for Molly Mae is that her
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: doco is launching on January 17th. And it has been
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: teased that a lot is going to come out about
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the breakup. So Amazon Prime either has nothing and is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: trying to use that to hook people in, Or there
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: is going to be dirt that has spilled and maybe
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Tommy's not going to like it. Do you reckon there's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: some editors who are swiftly cutting some stuff out? No way.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It's like, please remove what I said about him. Can
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we spare a thought, though, for Molly's sister Zoe and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: her husband Danny? Because they really took one for the team.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So they were stuck at Molly's house babysitting Molly and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Tommy's daughter Bambi on New Year's Eve. Whilst this was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: all going on. So Zoe documented this night on her
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. And in one clip, you can see she
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: was majorly regretting her decision to spend the night in babysitting.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Now we can enjoy the evening.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel a little bit gutted
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that we're not going to do anything now.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Do you feel a little bit like, not gutted, but like,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: now we've traded stuff, like if we had the option,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: we'd probably go and do something.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: At least go for dinner or something.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like just being sat inside all evening.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it will.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: They did try to make the most of the night, though,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: because they set up a cute date night where they
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: had canvases and they were painting and they had a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: grazing board. Their New Year's Eve kiss did look a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: little bit different, though, because they were crashed on the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: couch in their trackies watching the fireworks on TV. Now,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I think that this is every married couple, though. It is,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: but I felt sorry for them because, Danny was like, oh,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so exhausted. I'm going to bed. And Zoe was like, well,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay up to see Molly come home.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: She obviously wanted to hear the goss. Oh, of course
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you would. I mean, if you've taken one for the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: team and are babysitting your niece while your sister hooks
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: up with her ex. Can you imagine their faces when
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: they saw the front page of The Sun? Like, for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: fuck's sake. My favorite New Year's Eve ritual that I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ever did was the grapes underneath the table. Grapes really
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: seem to be having a moment right now because over
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: New Year's, my For You page was full of all
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: these young women who were huddled under tables shoving grapes
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: into their mouths in the hopes of supposedly bringing in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: good luck and good fortune for 2025. And at first
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I thought that this must be some sort of made-up
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: TikTok trend, but this is actually a tradition. The first
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: started in Spain and it's been around since the late 1800s. Well,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: on TikTok, this ritual has evolved because now it's more
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: about finding love than simply good luck because there's been
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: so many women posting their success stories, apparently saying, well,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I ate grapes last year and went on to meet
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the love of my life.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: So the concept is that each grape actually represents a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: month of the year. So as you're eating each grape,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to make a wish for each month of
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that year. The catch is that when the clock actually
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: strikes midnight on New Year's Eve, in order for your
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: wishes to come true, You have to eat all 12
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: grapes in a minute. So that's why there's clips of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: these women literally like stuffing their face. At least it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a little less awkward for the single people because you
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: know when everyone's, all the couples are kissing on New
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Year's Eve and the single people are kind of just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: standing there. Do you know what's fucked though? Because back
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: in the day, the rule was that in order for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: your wishes to come true, you actually had to eat
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: them in 12 seconds. So each grape was within a second.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: There'd be people fucking choking and collapsing on the ground.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So I actually first saw this trend pop up when
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Gold Coast influencer Georgia Richards shared an old video of
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: her from two years ago eating grapes under a table.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And in the vision, there was a dog next to her.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And I actually thought that she was eating the grapes quickly.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So the dog wouldn't get it because grapes are just
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: so poisonous. That's all I could think because I'm not
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: allowed to have grapes in the house at all. Because
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: We once had an incident where we were out on
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a walk and we had our dog Archie, like we
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: went to sit down under a picnic table and there
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: was this thing of, what is it, the stalk that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we had all this? So he didn't even eat a grape. Anyway,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: we were worried he ate a grape and we went
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: through this whole thing taking him to the vet because
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: they're highly toxic. Anyway, I do want to say though,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: whoever is doing the marketing for grapes at the moment,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I take my hat off to them because you have
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: literally made a fruit that is so expensive at the moment.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: It costs $ 10 for a kilo of grapes. They've managed
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to make it so desirable and grapes have been selling out.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: But that's actually not that expensive. Cherries are like $ 20
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a kilo. Yeah, but grapes have never been $ 10 a kilo. Well,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: for Georgia Richards, just back to her, this worked because
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: two years later she actually– has found her first girlfriend ever.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: She's very much in love. But isn't it meant to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: be a year? Well, maybe it takes a little while.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't eat them quick enough. So she shared
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: vision of her under the table eating the grapes and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: then she showed this year her kissing her girlfriend.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Well, there's actually another Georgia who has shocked everyone by
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: doing this trend as well and it's Georgia Love because
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: she has stoked breakup rumours even further by sharing a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: photo of herself also sitting under a table eating on
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve eating grapes. And she captioned the photo,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: who else was eating grapes under the table at the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: stroke of midnight? And for some context, this is while
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: she is holidaying solo from her husband, Lee Elliot in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: New York. To be fair, it is about good luck
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in general. So maybe she's just wishing for good luck,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: not necessarily good luck when it comes to dating. But
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I personally wouldn't have posted this considering all
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the rumors that are coming her way at the moment. Yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it came across as a bit attention seeking because She
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: has previously been trying to extinguish these breakup rumours, but
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: why post when this has become on TikTok a trend
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: about finding love? Like, I don't understand it. And what
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: added even more confusion was that Georgia later posted a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: reel where she was poking fun at millennials who, instead
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of having kids, they've got grand pets who their parents
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: look after. And she referenced her cat, Paudrey Hepburn. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: she said, literally, Paudrey Hepburn is at Lee's parents right
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: now with a laughing face. I didn't know whether this
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was to try and prove that she's still with Lee
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: because for me it actually created more question marks because
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: why isn't Lee, if she's just on a solo holiday
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and they're still together, why isn't Lee at their home
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: looking after her? He's been in Sydney holidaying himself so
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: maybe she was just pointing out that they're both on
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: holidays but it was a little bit odd. I do
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think it is more to try and extinguish the rumours
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: but if you've already posted yourself eating grapes under the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: table then it's not doing a very good job of it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp and Mitch Orville have had a very scary
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: end to 2024. So the couple were celebrating a friend's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: birthday by the pool at Sanctuary Cove when two kids
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: came running over carrying a lifeless three-year-old who they had
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: just scooped out of the pool. So Mitch described the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: terrifying moment on Instagram saying that the little girl had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: turned blue and was unconscious. So they immediately called an
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: ambulance and Chloe ran over to assist And she started
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: smacking the little girl on the back whilst another person
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: ran over to help and they managed to get the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: girl to vomit five times. Now, it's very scary because
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: this little girl was in and out of consciousness for
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the next 15 minutes. Now, fortunately, this story had a
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: very happy ending and Mitch and Chloe found out on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: New Year's Day that the little girl made it. So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: what happened is the little girl had been wearing floaties
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and took them off in the pool. I do commend
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Chloe and Mitch for this because Mitch took the opportunity
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to remind his followers to never take their eyes off
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: their kids in the pool, especially when there's big groups
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: of people around, and never to just assume that someone
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: else is watching after your kids. Chloe also took to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Instagram to praise the two children's quick actions, writing, praise
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to God and all the angels he placed in her
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: path yesterday. The 10-year-old kids are actual real-life heroes. Sunroom
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: founder Michelle Battersby has really turned her New Year's Eve around.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So she currently lives in LA with her rugby player partner,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Bill Meeks. And she was set to embark on a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: 15-hour solo parenting flight from LA to her hometown of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Sydney with her baby Alfie. So she managed to get
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: herself upgraded from economy to business class before she actually
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: arrived at the airport. Then at the gate, she got
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: upgraded to first class. Well, she was actually very strategic
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: about it. And this was her end goal. That's why
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: she ended up booking the tickets for New Year's Eve
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: because she knew not many people would be on the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: flight because it's not a very popular time to travel.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So she knew that people would be getting upgraded and
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: she was helping out her followers by giving them some tips.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And she said that when you purchased your ticker online,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: there is a checkbox that you need to tick that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: requests an upgrade. I didn't even know that this was
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a thing. It did have something to do with points.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: She's clearly a very savvy flyer. What I loved though,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: was that she has traveled business class before, but she
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: was still so excited to travel first class. I really
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: think that anyone traveling with a baby should be automatically
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: upgraded to first class, particularly if they're traveling solo. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: just think it must be so hideous for the parents
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: because there is no room to settle a child. But
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I also think it is equally hideous for those in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: economy around having to deal with the baby being unsettled
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but you probably wouldn't be thrilled if
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you had purchased first class tickets and then someone got
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: upgraded to first class and having a baby as well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: But they've actually got a room so the baby can
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: go to sleep. UK influencer Saffron Barker has spent a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: very cozy New Year's Eve in with her new boyfriend,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Joshua Milne, as well as her immediate family. So It's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: quite funny because Saffron has spoken pretty openly about her
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: hatred of cooking, but she seems to have turned over
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a bit of a new leaf now that she has
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: this new man in her life who loves hosting and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: loves good food. So the new couple hosted New Year's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Eve at her Brighton mansion and they cooked up an
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: array of pasta dishes, steak tacos and salads. It all
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: looked very nice. And Saffron's mum, Wendy... poked fun at
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: her daughter saying that Josh did all of the cooking
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: while Saffron merely set up the table. Well, I think
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: she had a point there because he, as you mentioned,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: is a very good cook. This didn't look like the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: sort of stuff that Saffron served her friends in the past.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I'd give her credit because she did look after the dessert.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So she ordered profiteroles and cookies from Domino's. I mean,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it looked delicious. Did anyone see the photos that Saffron's mum, Wendy,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: shared of the New Year's evening? I saw a few.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: She looked very close with Josh. Yeah, there was one
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: where they were cuddling and I showed it to Rhys.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do you think this is weird? He goes, well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know the context. Like, I'm like, this is
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the new boyfriend that they've only just met. And he's like, well,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: he's been living there for all of December. They probably
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: got to know him. Well, I wonder if Josh's family
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: have sent out a bit of an SOS for him
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: because they haven't seen him for the whole festive period.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And he lives in Scotland normally. And the thing is
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they must feel excluded because I noticed that Josh shared
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a photo where he wished his own mother a happy birthday.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So her birthday was after Christmas and she clearly missed
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to see her own son and his new girlfriend. Well,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: this is perfect for Saffron because she has spoken a
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  Speaker 1: lot on her podcast about how she couldn't imagine having
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to celebrate Christmas with someone else's family and how she
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  Speaker 1: expects the boyfriend has to come to her family for
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: all day. I think that's fair enough. As much as
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  Speaker 1: I have been a bit skeptical about this relationship only
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  Speaker 1: because Saffron seems to have this image of someone who
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: jumps into these new relationships. It's not an image, it's
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  Speaker 1: backed up with proof. I don't think it's necessarily true.
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  Speaker 1: It's more that she's always in a serious relationship. I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: actually think that he suits her way more than her
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  Speaker 1: other boyfriends because as we've established, he's happy to drop
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  Speaker 1: his life and his family. He has been very engulfed
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  Speaker 1: in her lifestyle. He is keen to play the role
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  Speaker 1: of the aspirational supportive boyfriend. I was talking to my husband, Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: about this. He was saying that this guy is really
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  Speaker 1: smart because he knows that he could bolster his career
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  Speaker 1: and they could pretty much be the next Zoe and
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  Speaker 1: Alfie or Molly Mae. It's giving Travis Kelsey. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: he's acting like the perfect handbag. And Kate, you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the photo of Saffron's mum, Wendy, with Josh. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is a really good sign because apparently Wendy is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: very judgmental of Saffron's boyfriend. She's obviously given the thumbs
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  Speaker 1: up to this guy. I think mums are sometimes a
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  Speaker 1: bit more wise about who their children should choose. A
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  Speaker 1: good judge of character. Yeah. And she's getting a lot
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  Speaker 1: of green flags. He seems pretty sweet in the background
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, I am hanging out for Saffron's
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  Speaker 1: next vlog because I'm buying into this relationship. I'm not
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: standing it or anything, but I'm finding it fascinating. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's been a good move for Josh because he has
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: gained 7,000 extra followers since he was hard launched on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Christmas day. So he's under 13,000 followers, which isn't many.
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  Speaker 1: But I think what is interesting is I've been looking
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  Speaker 1: at the comment section and Saffron's fans are shipping this
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  Speaker 1: relationship hard. So her TikTok comment section was full of
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  Speaker 1: fans saying you two are perfect together and you're soulmates
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  Speaker 1: and The way that Josh looks at you is so precious.
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  Speaker 1: I love that Josh fits into your family. See, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: saw a lot of others being like, who is this guy?
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  Speaker 1: Didn't she do this exactly the same thing last year? Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing all positive and fans are saying. The negative
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: ones have probably been deleted. Well, fans are saying that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: he looks like a young Chad Michael Murray, which I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: can kind of see with the shaved head. Yeah, Chad
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Michael Murray with the shaved head, but that was never
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: my favorite era of Chad Michael Murray. Look, the guy's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: obviously very built. He's, you know, we need a bit
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: of eye candy in our videos. Like I am, I'm
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: keen for this. I'm keen for this next era of Saffron.
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  Speaker 1: And I am expecting, here's my prediction because I wasn't
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: involved in the predictions. He is going to get down
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: on one knee. This time next year, they will be
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: engaged and there will probably be a wedding. It'll be
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough style wedding. Everything will be in fast forward.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to say this in the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Molly Mae segment, but Amy, we predicted that Tommy and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Molly would get back together and it's already happened. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: That was quick. Thank you. I actually disagreed with quite
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a few of your predictions, but maybe we'll have to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: have my own predictions. We'll revisit that maybe in the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: middle of the year. well that is all we've got
• 34:18
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• 34:20
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• 34:23
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