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05/29/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Jason Moss, Johnny Rutherford, Susannah Barr, Ben Salango · WCHS Network Podcasts

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  Speaker 3: All right, so I'm going to introduce you to a
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  Speaker 3: concept this morning, something called Wonder School. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: we've heard, we all hear about the crisis that we
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  Speaker 3: have in our daycares centers in West Virginia, really around
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  Speaker 3: the country, but especially here in West Virginia. We're known
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  Speaker 3: for having the lowest workforce participation rate in America, and sadly,
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  Speaker 3: one of the reasons we have that. One of the
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  Speaker 3: reasons is the fact that we don't have we don't
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  Speaker 3: have quality childcare. People got nothing to do with the kids.
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  Speaker 3: So there's some folks that are trying to work on
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  Speaker 3: that situation. We want to bring in Jason Moss to
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  Speaker 3: the show. Jason, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 6: Hello, I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 5: All right, So what.
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  Speaker 3: Are we talking about this morning? Do you give us
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  Speaker 3: this whole concept of what you folks are doing. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get into the particulars later, but give us the overall
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  Speaker 3: view of this concept of what you're trying to do.
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  Speaker 6: As you just said, West Virginia has a childcare crisis.
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  Speaker 6: There's sixty five percent of the state's residents are in
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  Speaker 6: a childcare desert and the labor workforce participation rate US
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  Speaker 6: fifty four point eight percent. That's the lowest in the country,
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  Speaker 6: and it points to sort of the lack of available
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  Speaker 6: childcare and affordable childcare as a reason for that crisis.
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  Speaker 6: What I mean is that we've got to figure out
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  Speaker 6: how to ensure that there's more available childcare so that
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  Speaker 6: parents don't need to reduce their hours, they don't need
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  Speaker 6: to leave the workforce, and they can they can stay
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  Speaker 6: in work. And so Wonder School has been asked by
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  Speaker 6: the state to come in to help to address this problem,
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  Speaker 6: and one of the ways we're doing it is through
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  Speaker 6: something very innovative called try Share.
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  Speaker 3: All right, break break that down for try Share. I
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  Speaker 3: love the titles Wonder School and try Share. I love
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  Speaker 3: the titles.
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  Speaker 6: Try Share is a great concept. It's it's basically saying
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  Speaker 6: that the the way to make childcare more accessible is
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  Speaker 6: if you share the cost three ways between uh an employer,
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  Speaker 6: the state of West Virginia, and the employee and so
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  Speaker 6: the and that and that's and that's the gist. It's
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  Speaker 6: it's it's free for businesses. And the way that It
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  Speaker 6: works as an employer would say, I am uh invested
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  Speaker 6: in this particular employee, I'm going to help contribute towards
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  Speaker 6: a portion of their childcare costs. Whatever amount that that
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  Speaker 6: employer decides. The state is then going to match that
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  Speaker 6: amount on a slide and scale, and then the employee
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  Speaker 6: tastes the difference.
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  Speaker 3: You know this, it's a very interesting concept. Go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and continue. I'm sorry, didn't mean to cut you off.
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  Speaker 6: Go ahead, no, no, no, and and and what one
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  Speaker 6: and under school is sort of kind of the technology
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  Speaker 6: in the background that makes it super easy for employers
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  Speaker 6: to do it and make sure that the providers are
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  Speaker 6: getting paid on time so that they can continue to
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  Speaker 6: operate their businesses.
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  Speaker 3: So how much work has gone into this and what
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  Speaker 3: does it take to put together, Jason, a model like this, Well.
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  Speaker 6: The model itself originated in Michigan a few years ago
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  Speaker 6: and it has since also we now see it happening
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  Speaker 6: in Kentucky, North Carolina, so the model is there. Our
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  Speaker 6: job is to work with the Small Business Development Center
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  Speaker 6: and a variety of different partners around the state, the
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  Speaker 6: Chamber of Commerce, the Charleston Area Alliance, et cetera, to
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  Speaker 6: figure out how do we take that model and adapt
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  Speaker 6: it here to West Virginia. And so we've just started
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  Speaker 6: to do this. We're just starting to put sort of
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  Speaker 6: all the pieces in place, but it is, it is live,
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  Speaker 6: and we are bringing on our first employers and our
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  Speaker 6: first providers, and the first employees are benefiting from those
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  Speaker 6: contributions and those matching funds. They're benefiting right now.
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  Speaker 3: Sright to begin with with Jason Moss, Let's get back
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  Speaker 3: to this term childcare deserts. As I said at the top, Jason,
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  Speaker 3: you hear that term thrown out there a lot, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, it's easy for us.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the studio in Charleston, West Virginia right now,
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  Speaker 3: and those that are listening to us, primarily in the
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  Speaker 3: Kanal Valley, we don't have enough childcare. But what we
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  Speaker 3: do okay here, Okay, I mean, I'm just kind of
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  Speaker 3: throwing it out there. Maybe I'm wrong, but you start
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  Speaker 3: getting into some of these other areas to say, to
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia, some of the smaller counties, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're not gonna pick on any but I'm
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  Speaker 3: just throwing some of the small counties out there. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: a Work County or a Clay County or some of
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  Speaker 3: these other counties. I'm going to go ahead and imagine
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  Speaker 3: that that's kind of where you're looking at when you
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  Speaker 3: talk about childcare deserts.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's you're you're exactly right. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the childcare desert is where the need for care far
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  Speaker 6: exceeds the available providers. And and here's the here's the
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  Speaker 6: challenge is that it's it's it's often a very unrealistic
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  Speaker 6: solution to say we're going to build a brand new center. Uh.
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  Speaker 6: In these communities, it's just the cost is too high,
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  Speaker 6: the population density is there's not it's too low. But
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  Speaker 6: what you can do, what's often overlooked is a very
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  Speaker 6: creative solution is what's called family childcare or in home childcare.
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  Speaker 6: And that's where entrepreneurial individuals say, hey, I can open
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  Speaker 6: up where I live and run a childcare program in
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  Speaker 6: my house. Uh. And it's all licensed, that follows the
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  Speaker 6: state regulations, et cetera. But it is a much easier, way,
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  Speaker 6: faster way to create childcare. It helps individuals work and
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  Speaker 6: earn a great living, and it can be very targeted
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  Speaker 6: to those areas where childcare is needed most and part
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  Speaker 6: of what Wonder School is also doing in the state,
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  Speaker 6: not only launching the Treasure program I mentioned, but we're
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  Speaker 6: also sort of working locally to help to create more
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  Speaker 6: in home family childcare.
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  Speaker 5: It's a fascinating concept. I mean, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: And when you talk about West Virginia's low workforce participation,
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  Speaker 3: invariably somebody will reach out to me. I'll get a
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  Speaker 3: text or something like that, and somebody will say something
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  Speaker 3: to the effect of, well, we're also the oldest state
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  Speaker 3: in the nation, and I completely understand that. Usually when
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about low workforce participation, Jason, you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: able bodied people that just for one reason or another
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  Speaker 3: don't work. Childcare is an issue, whatever, that's what we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about here primarily, right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's exactly right. That's exactly right, and
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  Speaker 6: we want and we want it for those individuals. We
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  Speaker 6: want to eliminate the very painful decision to say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: I would love to be working, but the economics don't
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  Speaker 6: make sense for me to work or for me to
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  Speaker 6: stay at my job because I have to deal with childcare.
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  Speaker 6: I have to have a solution in place, and so
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  Speaker 6: if through try share and creating more you know, more
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  Speaker 6: in home programs, we can we can eliminate reduce that
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  Speaker 6: very painful decision. That's a win for everybody. That's a
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  Speaker 6: win for the parents. That's a win for those providers
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  Speaker 6: because they're going to see more business. It's a win
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  Speaker 6: for employers because it helps them to recruit talent, it
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  Speaker 6: helps them to repain talent, and that's a win for
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  Speaker 6: the state.
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  Speaker 3: gonna give you a scenario here, Jason, Okay, I am
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  Speaker 3: going to start.
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  Speaker 5: I have a company.
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  Speaker 3: Uh and off the top of my head, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: call it Jones and Jones.
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  Speaker 5: That's the name of the company. Okay. Uh. I want
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  Speaker 5: to get involved in this.
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  Speaker 3: I need people and I and what I'm hearing when
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  Speaker 3: I interview people is I would love to take the job,
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  Speaker 3: but I can't do it because childcare is an issue.
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  Speaker 3: As an employer, what can take us through the process
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  Speaker 3: of how that would work, because it's a multifaceted as
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  Speaker 3: you said, So take us through.
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  Speaker 5: I'm an employer, lay it out for us. How does
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  Speaker 5: it work?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm at Jones and Jones, And what
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to do is say, all right, for for
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  Speaker 6: for my employees, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 6: every I'm gonna let them know that I'm going to
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  Speaker 6: contribute one hundred dollars two hundred dollars a month towards
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  Speaker 6: their towards their childcare, and the state is going to
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  Speaker 6: match that based on that family's annual householding them and
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  Speaker 6: therefore that individual is now going to be saving two
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  Speaker 6: hundred dollars three hundred dollars four hundred dollars a month
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  Speaker 6: on their childcare, which over the course of a year
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  Speaker 6: is very significant. So that's the promise and the commitment
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  Speaker 6: that Jones and Jones can make to employees or or
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  Speaker 6: future employees people are trying to recruit operationally, it's as
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  Speaker 6: simple as going to Wonder School, dot com forward slashed
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  Speaker 6: West Virginia dash trishare and it is a very quick
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  Speaker 6: application process. You essentially fill out a brief application. You
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  Speaker 6: let us know that you want to participate. We follow
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  Speaker 6: up with you. We then ask you to let us
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  Speaker 6: know what employees or employees and how much you're going
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  Speaker 6: to contribute for a month. We validate with them the
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  Speaker 6: household income. We talk to the provider where the child
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  Speaker 6: will be going, We get them signed up, and then
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  Speaker 6: we sort of and then you just we set up
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  Speaker 6: that the there's a monthly department essentially debit need and
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  Speaker 6: it's as easy as that. You can then sort of
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  Speaker 6: step back and know that your employee employees are being
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  Speaker 6: benefited through this program.
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  Speaker 5: It's fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fascinating concept and I was doing some reading
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  Speaker 3: about it last night. A fascinating concept and a fascinating
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  Speaker 3: business model. We're gonna have you on again to talk
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  Speaker 3: about this a little bit more at another time. But
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  Speaker 3: give us that website again for more information right now.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, it's Wonderschool dot com, forward slash, West Dash Virginia
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  Speaker 6: Dash try share or you can google search West Virginia
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  Speaker 6: try share and it'll be the probably the first thing
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  Speaker 6: that comes.
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  Speaker 3: Up with All Right, hey, Jason, fascinating stuff. I appreciate
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  Speaker 13: have a cool thing called live music Bingo thanks to
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  Speaker 13: Arts Amplified here in Charleston, which we'll start at seven
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  Speaker 13: pm at five Street Brewing and Shane Mead will be
• 17:30
  Speaker 13: the performer there tonight.
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  Speaker 5: So give us the whole concept behind festival.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because we hear it's one of those things
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: in Charleston, you know, along with Regatta and we had
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: all these things going on. You hear it thrown out there,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: But what was the concept behind fest?
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: Of all the concept behind festival.
• 17:45
  Speaker 13: So a few heavy hitters here, Larry Gross being one
• 17:48
  Speaker 13: of them, who you all are probably familiar through Mountain stage,
• 17:54
  Speaker 13: Daniel Jones and Vic Grigaracci, they all got together and said, hey,
• 17:58
  Speaker 13: we need something like Sple, which is in Charleston, South Carolina.
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  Speaker 13: It's a major arts festival, multi day, multi media, everything
• 18:07
  Speaker 13: you could possibly imagine, and they wanted to build that
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  Speaker 13: up here in Charleston, West Virginia. And so they thought
• 18:13
  Speaker 13: that you know, wine and jazz was happening. They build
• 18:16
  Speaker 13: everything around that, and they wanted to create this event
• 18:19
  Speaker 13: where everyone could access the arts, maybe not necessarily in
• 18:23
  Speaker 13: a building, but outside for free, so it's accessible to everyone.
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  Speaker 13: And it grew from a three day festival all the
• 18:29
  Speaker 13: way to a fifteen day festival on our fifteenth year.
• 18:32
  Speaker 13: But now that we're back in our or now that
• 18:34
  Speaker 13: we're approaching our twenty first year, we're scaling things back
• 18:37
  Speaker 13: to go back to the basics and really focus on
• 18:38
  Speaker 13: what festival does well.
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  Speaker 3: And I love the fact when you talk about the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: arts again, that you're not there's various ways for people
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to enjoy arts, and you're not necessarily going to look
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: at it in a quote unquote museum right now.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Is anything wrong with that?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: But you're actually you're actually outside for the most part,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and you're actually being able to take part in all these.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, live music, theater, dance.
• 18:57
  Speaker 13: You are able to enjoy those in theaters, and we
• 18:59
  Speaker 13: do have ticket at events when you're in the Clay Center,
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  Speaker 13: which is a state of the art performance center, or
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  Speaker 13: you can walk down the Carriage Trail and enjoy.
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  Speaker 8: Those same things in a much different atmosphere.
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  Speaker 3: Talking Toboli, Richard's about festival to Day of Island show
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  Speaker 3: what's your favorite part.
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  Speaker 8: Part of festivals?
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: I may be biased because I've been the producer of
• 19:29
  Speaker 13: this thing for a while, but it's the Capitol Street
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: Art Fair. It's one of the biggest events of festival,
• 19:34
  Speaker 13: and we have artists from all over both locally, regionally
• 19:38
  Speaker 13: out of state that come in. We have over sixty
• 19:41
  Speaker 13: five artists that will join us this year. There's live
• 19:44
  Speaker 13: music and performance stage stages at the Children's Art Fair
• 19:47
  Speaker 13: by the Library. Also in front of Taylor Books, roaming
• 19:51
  Speaker 13: street performers. It's a very all encompassing festival experience.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Well for what it's worth. Someone just texted and said
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that's their favorite part too.
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  Speaker 8: Oh awesome. We love that.
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  Speaker 5: There you go, there you go.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And for the people. I mean, let's talk about I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: the ultimate capitalist. I'm always talking about money and bringing
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: people in. We just came off of the bike event
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: in Charleston, which was absolutely huge.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: We got regatta coming.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Up this weekend, among the other things. We got a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: bunch of people. I know it's not Charleston, but it's
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the Kanaal Valley. We got all these people, which we're
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: going to talk about in our next segment, coming in
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: from literally all over the country for this pickleball event
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: in Nitro. We got to Charlie West Music Festival going on.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, the thing I like about all these things,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and I know it's all about art, okay, but it
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: also puts heads and beds, and it also puts money.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: In the till you.
• 20:36
  Speaker 13: Took the words out of my mind, Heads and Beds
• 20:39
  Speaker 13: Festival has an annual average income or what am I
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: trying to say here, one point.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Eight million dollars economic impact.
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: Our impact is one point eight million dollars, which is
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: over double our budget. So if you're thinking about money
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: coming in to us to produce these things and money
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: coming into the city to enjoy these things, it's well
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: worth your time if you are a supporter of festival.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And it looks like at least today we're going to
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: get a little bit of a break and all this
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: rain that we've had, oh yeah, right now, we're just
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: trying to get people into Charleston. Because I don't know
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: if you follow this story or not, but there was
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and I understand it's getting better. There was a traffic
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: issue coming on I sixty four into Charleston today. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: drove over it literally because there was gravel all over
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the interstate and I thought to myself, Okay, well there's
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: there's gravel, and I'm like, and I'm driving over it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: But they did shut down the interstate for a while.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Because of that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: But I do believe that they're starting to get back
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: to normally.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: That's what I heard Jeff say in the news.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: And we are going to get a little bit of
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a break they tell us from the rain today. But
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it looks like tomorrow we got more rain back in
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the forecast. So where is the best place though for
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: people to learn more and get and then because there's
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: so many things Mallory that are going on, what's the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: best spot to go to so people can just get
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a schedule.
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: The best spot to get the schedule is online at
• 21:56
  Speaker 13: festival Charleston dot com, which is Fest of All with
• 21:58
  Speaker 13: two l's. You can also so go to one of
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: your local businesses Taylor Books, five Street Brewing. They all
• 22:04
  Speaker 13: have our printed schedules where everything is in there. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: will say the drum circle tonight at six pm used
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: to be at Slack Plaza, but we had to change
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: the location there. It'll be at how Ad Riverfront Park tonight.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I also don't want to forget that we have live
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: on the levee.
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: So yeah, we're so excited.
• 22:21
  Speaker 13: Nobs Brass Band so incredible Magnolia Boulevard there bluegrass band
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: and Nobs Brass Band is obviously a giant brass band,
• 22:29
  Speaker 13: lots of high energy.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: It's a great time.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: We also have this schedules available here in our studios.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I am told from sales weasel extraordinary.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: Bobby Sprye, I did see those upstairs.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, at at.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Eleven eleven Virginia Street. You can stop Bier Studio during
• 22:41
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• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Before we let you go, I want to talk about
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the buy in from the businesses here in Charleston, because
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: without the businesses getting involved in this and saying we
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: love this, it ain't happening.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Talk about that we have.
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  Speaker 13: So Fest of All is a group effort. Teamwork makes
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: the dream work. We get some from everyone all over
• 23:01
  Speaker 13: the city. And like I said, our economic impact is
• 23:04
  Speaker 13: pretty large compared to what we are spending on our end.
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: I've talked to a few local businesses on Capitol Street.
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: They say that during festival they sometimes make more money
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: during festival than they do during the holiday season. So,
• 23:19
  Speaker 13: especially with the Capitol Street Art Fair, people are spending
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: time downtown. They're not just going to our events, but
• 23:24
  Speaker 13: they're also visiting these businesses.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: All right, yeah, again, there's a We've got schedules available here,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: they're available online.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: You guys do a great job at your social media
• 23:33
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  Speaker 8: Awesome.
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• 28:01
  Speaker 3: We'll go for we transition from one to the other.
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  Speaker 3: Johnny Rutherford to see it for Metro nine one one.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, man?
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Good?
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  Speaker 5: How are you retired now?
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I am retired. I'm still helping Metro out with a
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: pickleball tournament. We got some great pros in and a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: great tournament, right all right?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: So what are you doing other than playing pickleball in
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: your retirement?
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I got a great wife and we spent a lot
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: of time taking walks, a little bit of golf and
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: taking care of family.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: How long were you How long were you there?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Well, with the county for forty six.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Ye years in various role sheriff and so on and
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: so on.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sheriff for thirty some years now with Metro
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: for twelve.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, and we're getting ready for this big pickleball event
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: in Nitro. And you've been on several times over the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: last couple of years talking about this and to use
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the average advertising cliche.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: It does get bigger and better every year.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: It's great. The Nitro has done a great job. They
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: put a great facility in for us. I have a
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: lot of team people that help us put this tournament on.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: It's grown every year. We're up to almost three hundred
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: people this year. We've got some great pros coming in.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: It's just great. And one thing we want to make sure,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I want to say before we get started here is
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: it's free. We have some great players, some of the
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: best in the country, in the world come into play,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: and we want to make sure people come down, enjoy themselves,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: walk around and watch his play is really exciting.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And pickleball itself, I mean again, people have heard you
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: talking about it, and we're going to talk to some
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: pros that are here, but describe pickleball.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: To people that may not understand it complete.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I'm as Susannah, Okay, she is the pro and she
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: has been playing. He's great at this, all.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Right, Susanna Barr. And you've been on the show before,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: but you were always on the phone. This first time,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I think we've had you in person. I think yes, yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 17: Last year I called in from Idaho, which is where
• 29:32
  Speaker 17: I live.
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: Uh, huh.
• 29:34
  Speaker 17: But now we're here, we're going to be running some
• 29:36
  Speaker 17: clinics today and then obviously playing this weekend.
• 29:39
  Speaker 12: But yeah, pickleball is.
• 29:40
  Speaker 17: A combination of tennis, badminton, and ping pong. I heard
• 29:45
  Speaker 17: one person say once it was like, you're playing ping pong,
• 29:47
  Speaker 17: but you're standing on the.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Table, okay, which is generally frowned upon in most most
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: most establishments. Now we have Dominicque Catalano. I pronounce that right, Dominique.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Let's h what's your love of pickaball? What's your story?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: What's your story?
• 30:01
  Speaker 18: Oh gosh, so I've been in pickaball for twenty four
• 30:04
  Speaker 18: years now. I started in pick a ball in two
• 30:05
  Speaker 18: thousand and one. I was a high school pe and
• 30:07
  Speaker 18: health teacher in suburbs of Chicago. But I also to
• 30:10
  Speaker 18: live in Boise, Idaho now and I work for the
• 30:14
  Speaker 18: Association of Pickleball Players the app Professional Pickleball Tour. I
• 30:18
  Speaker 18: do the commentary and work with ESPN and CBS Sports
• 30:21
  Speaker 18: as the playby or color analyst for those networks and
• 30:25
  Speaker 18: for the pro Tour.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: So how does one prepare for do? I mean?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I've done some play by play in color commentary on
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: various sports I've never done pickleball, how do you imagine
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the preparation is about the same, isn't it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: It's pretty much the same.
• 30:37
  Speaker 18: I have had pros asked me if I would step
• 30:40
  Speaker 18: away from my iPad so that they could see my
• 30:43
  Speaker 18: scouting reports on players, and I refuse to do that,
• 30:45
  Speaker 18: but pretty much the exact same thing. I prep the same.
• 30:49
  Speaker 18: I watch a lot of pickleball when I'm not on
• 30:52
  Speaker 18: the venue and on site, so I have a lot
• 30:54
  Speaker 18: of notes and a lot of scouting reports on probably
• 30:57
  Speaker 18: over two hundred players.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about, if we could, the growth
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: of pickleball and how it has become so popular. Johnny
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and I've been talking about this for the last couple
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: of years, and Sarah, I mean this, I don't know
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: what there has been a sport or an activity or
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: for some people, it's a hobby. For you, guys, it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: your life that has grown ass as quickly as what
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: pickleball has. I mean, people just can't get enough of.
• 31:25
  Speaker 12: It, that's true.
• 31:26
  Speaker 17: I mean it's so it's easy to learn, it's hard
• 31:29
  Speaker 17: to master, but it's just a lot of fun. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 17: I think that's the biggest appeal is you can go
• 31:34
  Speaker 17: out and play with your grandparents, you can play with
• 31:37
  Speaker 17: your friends. You laugh a lot. Now there might not
• 31:42
  Speaker 17: be as much laughing in a tournament. People are are
• 31:46
  Speaker 17: there to win and do their best, but overall it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 17: just a really fun game and it's just a great
• 31:52
  Speaker 17: way to be social and healthy and get some exercise.
• 31:56
  Speaker 17: And so, you know, we love it. We've been playing
• 31:59
  Speaker 17: for a lot time and we still love it.
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  Speaker 3: And Nitro has just done such a great job John,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: in kind of becoming the pickleball capital of not only
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of West Virginia, but I mean literally, man, I mean
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: like this probably this part of the country.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: They've done a great job. It's covered nine great courts,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: indoors and outdoor courts. We have people coming from fifteen
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: different states to play in this tournament this year, so
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it's encompassed in the area without you know, outside of
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: West Virginia and all the way to Idaho. And we
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: have quite a few pros coming in this year from
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: home over the country.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: And you always are really good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: And Sarah, I know you've done this in the past
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: about about offering these clinics where you I mean, it's.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Not in John and I talked about it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I think when you were on the phone with us
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: last year, we said, this is the equivalent to saying,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I want to be a golfer and I'm taking lessons
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: a few years ago from Tiger Woods. You know, I'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna learn basketball, and I'm
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: gonna learn it from Michael Jordan. I'm gonna learn from
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Lebron or somebody like that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: We call Susannah the Michael Jordan's Michelow.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a pretty big title. Susannah. You good
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: with them?
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: Oh, I mean it's kind of become an ongoing joke.
• 33:10
  Speaker 17: And part of the joke is is it the MJ
• 33:13
  Speaker 17: So is it Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson.
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: We don't really have But no, it's super fun.
• 33:18
  Speaker 17: Last year, you guys made me a huge banner and
• 33:21
  Speaker 17: it's hanging in my garage. I have to see it
• 33:23
  Speaker 17: every day when I drive in at the Michael Jordan
• 33:26
  Speaker 17: or the MJ of Peockleball.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I put it up the day we moved in.
• 33:29
  Speaker 17: But no, I mean, yeah, you know, we love coaching,
• 33:32
  Speaker 17: and so we're excited to be able to come back
• 33:33
  Speaker 17: here and share some of our knowledge with the players
• 33:36
  Speaker 17: and just help grow everybody as players, and we try
• 33:41
  Speaker 17: to make it a lot of fun as well. And
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: then we'll be around to you know, the players that
• 33:45
  Speaker 17: take our clinic, we'll be there watching their matches all
• 33:46
  Speaker 17: week and two, putting a little pressure on them.
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  Speaker 3: out their social media. So when you are instructing these people,
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  Speaker 3: what are some of the things either one of you,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: because I know you do this well, what are some
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  Speaker 3: of the things that how does that work? I mean,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: do you just one on one? Do you do it
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: in groups? Combination of both?
• 34:15
  Speaker 18: So it's kind of a combination of both. Depends on
• 34:17
  Speaker 18: what the area we're going to, because we do this
• 34:19
  Speaker 18: all over the country, so it depends on the area
• 34:22
  Speaker 18: what they're looking for. Mostly we do groups, and we'll
• 34:24
  Speaker 18: do clinics where we'll have eight to sixteen people and
• 34:27
  Speaker 18: we bounce back and forth from court to court. Sometimes
• 34:30
  Speaker 18: we'll do what we call three and me's or play
• 34:32
  Speaker 18: with a pro where I'll play or Susannah will play
• 34:35
  Speaker 18: and they'll have three other amateurs and we'll play points
• 34:38
  Speaker 18: with them. And a lot of times they'll have us
• 34:40
  Speaker 18: come in and do some private lessons where you want
• 34:42
  Speaker 18: a one on one lesson. So it all kind of
• 34:44
  Speaker 18: depends on the area, what the people are looking for,
• 34:46
  Speaker 18: what they want. But we've been doing this for so
• 34:49
  Speaker 18: long it's a lot of it's rinse and repeat, But
• 34:51
  Speaker 18: when we come back to places multiple times, it's got
• 34:54
  Speaker 18: to keep changing it up. So we're doing a clinic
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: from one to three today and then three to from
• 35:01
  Speaker 18: five to seven in the evening for you know, the
• 35:03
  Speaker 18: working class people that have to work and can't get
• 35:05
  Speaker 18: off in the middle.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Of the day, people that aren't retired exactly. Not mentioning
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: any name.
• 35:09
  Speaker 18: Not mentioning any names in the studio, but yeah, so
• 35:11
  Speaker 18: we're doing that in the evening. One is a tournament
• 35:14
  Speaker 18: prep clinic where a lot of the players are coming
• 35:16
  Speaker 18: with their partner and so we'll get them into you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 18: what it takes to play in a tournament, kind of
• 35:20
  Speaker 18: that mindset aspect of it as well.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Talk about the tournament mindset a little bit, and when
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: when you folks are entering tournaments and things of that nature,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: because obviously this is a fun sport. It's just like golf.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's a it's a fun sport,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: but it's also ultra competitive. You said that earlier about
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: how you laugh and joke until it's tournament time and
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: then it's serious biz.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, absolutely.
• 35:44
  Speaker 17: I mean, you know, the Nitro Tournament, the Metro Tournament
• 35:47
  Speaker 17: has a great prize pool. It is twenty thousand dollars
• 35:50
  Speaker 17: this year. I mean that's quite a bit of money.
• 35:52
  Speaker 17: So we're all you know, that's.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Why you get people coming from all these different states.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: How many states you say, John, fifteen different states, fifteen
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: different stats are coming in for this, but go ahead.
• 35:59
  Speaker 17: Yeah, so we have our eyes on the prize.
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: But you know, we definitely prep ahead of time.
• 36:05
  Speaker 17: I mean, the pros that are coming in have been
• 36:07
  Speaker 17: scouring the list to see which players are coming.
• 36:09
  Speaker 12: So we have our own notes. We're studying their.
• 36:11
  Speaker 17: Games, having some game plans about what we're going to
• 36:14
  Speaker 17: be doing against our competitors, how we want to play.
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: It was nice that we got out yesterday.
• 36:20
  Speaker 17: Got here a little early and we're able to hit
• 36:22
  Speaker 17: because in fact, the conditions are different everywhere you go.
• 36:25
  Speaker 17: The way the ball bounces is different depending on where
• 36:27
  Speaker 17: you go. The humidity affects the game as well, So
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: kind of having a little bit of time to make
• 36:32
  Speaker 17: some of those adjustments that we need to make to
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: our game. Yeah, I mean we take it seriously. It
• 36:38
  Speaker 17: is for the pros it is there. For most of them,
• 36:41
  Speaker 17: it's their career and so they want to come out
• 36:43
  Speaker 17: and play their absolute best. But on top of that,
• 36:46
  Speaker 17: all the amateurs are out there. It's their chance to
• 36:49
  Speaker 17: shine as well, and so you know, just for them,
• 36:52
  Speaker 17: they're going to be having those mental talks with their partners.
• 36:55
  Speaker 17: How do we you know, communicate with each other, how
• 36:58
  Speaker 17: are we successful on the court, how we support each other,
• 37:01
  Speaker 17: and so all of that goes into play, just like
• 37:04
  Speaker 17: any sport.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Also, I do want to throw this out there. Per
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: friend of the Show Joe Stevens from the City of Nitro,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: there is a ribbon cutting at the city's new indoor
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: pickleball complex as part of the Nitro Athletic Complex that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: set for tomorrow at eleven thirty at the Athletic Complex
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: sixteen fifty Park Avenue in Nitro, So I told Joe
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I would definitely get that on there.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: In the season, and the tournament will start right after
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: that at noon with the singles division.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Before we let you get what's your all impressions of
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: West Virginia.
• 37:33
  Speaker 18: Oh my gosh, Like last year, we didn't know what
• 37:36
  Speaker 18: to expect coming here. As soon as we land. We
• 37:38
  Speaker 18: were talking on the way here. When you land at
• 37:40
  Speaker 18: the airport in Charleston, you look like you're coming in
• 37:43
  Speaker 18: and going to land on top of the trees. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 18: last year we were coming in, We're like, is there
• 37:48
  Speaker 18: a runway or are we just gonna land on the
• 37:49
  Speaker 18: top of the trees, And then all of a sudden,
• 37:51
  Speaker 18: the runway comes out of nowhere. And so this year
• 37:53
  Speaker 18: we anticipated it. We were watching it, but you know
• 37:55
  Speaker 18: last year and then coming in this year, as soon
• 37:57
  Speaker 18: as we get here, it's almost like a breath of
• 38:00
  Speaker 18: fresh air. Everyone here, from John and and and Matt
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: and everyone who runs the tournament, and how they host
• 38:07
  Speaker 18: us and how they've kind of reached out to us
• 38:10
  Speaker 18: and taken care of us is above and beyond what
• 38:13
  Speaker 18: we can expect. And it was, you know, last year
• 38:16
  Speaker 18: we came here and we're like, Okay, you know we're
• 38:18
  Speaker 18: gonna go this year and we'll see before we left,
• 38:20
  Speaker 18: we went to lunch when you guys dropped us off
• 38:22
  Speaker 18: at the airport last year, and we looked and we're like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 18: just tell us what the date is next year, we'll
• 38:27
  Speaker 18: be here. But it's just it's just so nice. It's
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: refreshing and pickleball to have an event that does have
• 38:32
  Speaker 18: a good prize pool, but it also gets that old
• 38:35
  Speaker 18: school pickleball feeling where it's a community.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: And uh and we're kind of welcoming sorts here in
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. We we like to we like to have company,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: as as my grandma would say.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And hopefully while you're here, you'll get to visit tutors
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: and you'll get to you get you some uh, get
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: your Pepperoni role while you're here as well. Make make
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: sure because I know you guys train, but you know
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you gotta have there's got to be room for Mary
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: b every now.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: They've got to have those cheap days. Yeah, exactly, John,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: go ahead.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: I just want to thank them for coming. They've been great.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: They're great people. Not they're great pickleball players, but beyond that,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: they're great people. I want to thank the City of Nitro.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I want to thank the Metro nine one one employees
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: who save lives every day. All of our sponsors and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: especially Ohio Valley Bank and three or four at Valley
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Point are big sponsors. But we want to thank them all.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: We appreciate it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, without sponsors, nothing happens, nothing happened, nothing happens. And again,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: this is a great event for Metro nine.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: One one as well. We don't want to we don't
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: want to leave that part out.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: John, Yes, thank you. Yeah, our employees are great employer and.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Give us the timeline again.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: What starts the opening tomorrow is with the city is
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: eleven thirty. Tournament starts at noon and then Saturday and
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Sunday we have tournament doubles eight to four Saturday and Sunday,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: maybe even in the six or seven o'clock. So come
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: out and play, like I said, or come out and watch.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: It's free. It's it's a wonderful time. It's the most
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: social event you'll ever see.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Be honest with you, all right, guys, welcome to Wes,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to West Virginia, and John always pleasure to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: have you and keep doing great things out there.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Man. We love it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Good to see you.
• 40:05
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  Speaker 5: So you a pickleball player player, you know what.
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  Speaker 20: I bought a paddle and I have a pickleball shirt,
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  Speaker 5: But I have not officially played pickleball yet.
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• 43:31
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• 43:33
  Speaker 5: It's never my fault.
• 43:34
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• 43:34
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  Speaker 3: The Judicial Annex. Yeah, we haven't talked about that in
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: a while. So what you got for you know what
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: it was? You remember, Gosh, we've talked about this a
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  Speaker 3: few times. Kind of turned in the saga of the
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  Speaker 3: Judicial Annex at this point. But it was one of
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• 44:22
  Speaker 3: because we didn't really know exactly where the bids were
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: going to come in. You know, we were dealing with
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of what I've been calling the post COVID
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: construction money that was just flowing in everywhere. So a
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: lot of the contractors were able to come in and
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: just kind of name their own price on Unfortunately, when
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the bids came in initially back in October twenty twenty four,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: we were two point eight million dollars over budget, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: we tried and tried to work it out with the contractors,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: simply couldn't and so we made the tough decision to
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: basically break the project up and rebid it, and we're
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: actually we actually reduced the price by five point five
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: million dollars, so we saved five point five million dollars
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: tax payer money by breaking the project project up and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: rebidding it. So we're officially two point eight million dollars
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: under budget now by doing that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: Which is not something you hear very often in the
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: world of government.
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  Speaker 20: Man, Well, when the bits came in yesterday and we
• 45:14
  Speaker 20: had five, so we broke it up into floor, so
• 45:17
  Speaker 20: the fifth floor came in around two million dollars, and
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• 45:24
  Speaker 20: which is much more complex that Prey Construction, who actually
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• 45:32
  Speaker 20: doing a great job. That came in at eight point
• 45:34
  Speaker 20: one eight million, one hundred and forty six nine to
• 45:37
  Speaker 20: fifty three, which they were the lowest bidders. And so
• 45:40
  Speaker 20: we had five bidders yesterday for the first floor remodel
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  Speaker 20: and it ranged from around eight million to twelve million,
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  Speaker 20: and Prey was the lowest bidder. And so if you
• 45:49
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• 45:51
  Speaker 20: a little over ten million dollars and it was sixteen,
• 45:55
  Speaker 20: so we save five point five million dollars by redoing that.
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  Speaker 3: So take us back through the process. Why do we
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  Speaker 3: need a judicial annex to begin with?
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  Speaker 20: Well, we needed a remodel of the current annexts because
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• 46:41
  Speaker 20: the first floor when you're adding three additional magistrates and
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  Speaker 20: staff and courtrooms, and that was a bit more complex.
• 46:48
  Speaker 20: And so that's where the trouble has been as far
• 46:52
  Speaker 20: as the financial issues, because when when the bid first
• 46:56
  Speaker 20: came back it was it was nearly sixteen million dollars.
• 46:59
  Speaker 20: Because they love everything in together. We didn't get a
• 47:01
  Speaker 20: breakdown of the bids. We didn't have that many people
• 47:05
  Speaker 20: bidding on the projects because there was so much again
• 47:08
  Speaker 20: post COVID money was out there and the construction companies
• 47:12
  Speaker 20: could just pick their projects. And now that's kind of
• 47:15
  Speaker 20: drying up and things are a lot more competitive, and
• 47:18
  Speaker 20: so that was what we hoped we would see. That's
• 47:21
  Speaker 20: kind of what we had seen kind of the trend
• 47:23
  Speaker 20: over the last six to eight months. And so when
• 47:27
  Speaker 20: I met with Commissioner Wheeler and I think at that
• 47:29
  Speaker 20: time Commissioner Slotnik, who was sitting in temporarily, we made
• 47:35
  Speaker 20: the tough decision to rebid it. Now it could have
• 47:37
  Speaker 20: come back more, and that was a gamble we were
• 47:39
  Speaker 20: going to have to take, and if that happened, we
• 47:41
  Speaker 20: were going to have to come up with planed C
• 47:44
  Speaker 20: and which was not going to be a very good
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: option potentially, you know, splitting up the annex into two
• 47:49
  Speaker 20: different parts of town. But Plan B worked out and
• 47:53
  Speaker 20: we're happy to report that we say five and a
• 47:56
  Speaker 20: half million dollars to taxpayer money.
• 47:58
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  Speaker 3: I asked this yesterday, but think it should be opposed
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  Speaker 3: to a county commissioner. A lot of these activities and
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, the different activities going
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: on to the Charleston area.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: The activities are.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Nice, but a lot of us like other things like
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: amusement marks and beach boardwalk parties old Myrtle beach style.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Why not bring back the Kenaw County Fair. Possibly hold
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: it at the Shawnee Sports Complex or some of the
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: empty lots at South Ridge. Kind of a beach boardwalk
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: block party on the boulevard or Capitol Street during regatta
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  Speaker 3: with things like shag or twist contests, boardwalk game shacks, oldies, music,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I'm a gen xer, but the stuff
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: was so much fun, you know what.
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  Speaker 20: First of all, we'd looked at bringing back the county
• 48:55
  Speaker 20: Fair and doing at Shawnee. But I do remember those
• 48:59
  Speaker 20: old little beach parties. This was what fifteen plus years ago,
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  Speaker 20: but I think it was a charitable organization that did it,
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  Speaker 20: but I don't remember which one. And they were a
• 49:09
  Speaker 20: lot of fun. They had bands and you know, the
• 49:11
  Speaker 20: live music and a lot of different things going on.
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  Speaker 20: I mean, I like the idea. It's something that I
• 49:15
  Speaker 20: know that the commission Wheelers looked at as well. So yeah,
• 49:18
  Speaker 20: it's not outside the realm of possibility. I think it's
• 49:20
  Speaker 20: probably probably would be a good idea. And now to
• 49:22
  Speaker 20: hold it up the same time as Regatta would be
• 49:26
  Speaker 20: a logistical nightmare.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're already bursted at the seams here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 20: Yeah, we would probably need to do it on a
• 49:32
  Speaker 20: weekend when nothing else's schedule.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about some things going on out at Shawnee.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we've got I got an email this morning
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: about a I think there's a ribbon cutting, grid opening
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: something going on.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: What do you got out there? Yeah? So today we're
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: is it today? Yeah?
• 49:48
  Speaker 20: It's today we're cutting the ribbon at Shawnee on the
• 49:51
  Speaker 20: new playground. And that was that's something that's been in
• 49:54
  Speaker 20: the works for a long time. And you know, those
• 49:56
  Speaker 20: are incredibly expensive, and we appreciate rodnel loftice he donated
• 50:01
  Speaker 20: his time, went out there and tore down the old
• 50:03
  Speaker 20: playground and the County Commission and I forget exactly how
• 50:07
  Speaker 20: much the project costs, but it's it's going to be
• 50:10
  Speaker 20: nice and so it's in the front part of the park.
• 50:14
  Speaker 20: And I know we've had a pretty significant effort over
• 50:17
  Speaker 20: the years trying to upgrade all of our playgrounds. I mean,
• 50:20
  Speaker 20: some of them were simply not safe. You couldn't play
• 50:22
  Speaker 20: on them, and so we were doing that with the
• 50:24
  Speaker 20: Shawnee Sports Complex. That's going to happen today, so if
• 50:27
  Speaker 20: you want to come out and check it out, bring
• 50:29
  Speaker 20: the kids. I think that's at two PM, so we'll
• 50:31
  Speaker 20: be able to to unveil that today. Then in August,
• 50:36
  Speaker 20: we're cutting the ribbon on the new Shawnee Sports Complex
• 50:39
  Speaker 20: Entrance Center, which is about a five million dollar project.
• 50:44
  Speaker 20: Thanks to our US senator's former Senator Mansion Senator Capito
• 50:49
  Speaker 20: and also current Senator former Governor Jim Justice, who helped
• 50:55
  Speaker 20: us get a million dollars. But they help with the
• 50:58
  Speaker 20: tune of about three million dollars and so we wouldn't
• 51:00
  Speaker 20: have been able to build that new building without their help.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: And we're very apprecive. Chech says it was the Big Brothers,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Big sisters, Martle beach back. That's exactly right, that's right.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: How many that's been a long time ago, but it
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: was a blast.
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  Speaker 3: And I do know I'll give a shout out to
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: the CAMC Foundation folks. I know that they have a
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: like a lu al type of event usually every year at
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: the Clay Center or something like that. So Robbie Queen
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: and his folks, so yeah, I always do a great
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: job with that. Before we let you go, any updates
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: on the Capitol Sports Center, you can give.
• 51:26
  Speaker 20: Us, you know, not right now, we're waiting. I know
• 51:29
  Speaker 20: we've each put in some earmark requests the city and
• 51:32
  Speaker 20: the county.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: You know, hopefully that will go through.
• 51:36
  Speaker 20: I think if if that's in there and Congress passes
• 51:40
  Speaker 20: a budget, then we're back on track.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 51:42
  Speaker 20: That was that's a big project for the city, for
• 51:45
  Speaker 20: the county, for the entire state, and we've got the
• 51:48
  Speaker 20: right people in place. Hopefully we'll be able to make
• 51:51
  Speaker 20: it happen. And if not, then we'll have to try
• 51:53
  Speaker 20: to scale it back some. But you know, it's just
• 51:56
  Speaker 20: one of those things where it was an unusual turn
• 51:59
  Speaker 20: of events. Believe, when you get an Earmark award, it
• 52:02
  Speaker 20: goes through. This is one of the rare instances where
• 52:05
  Speaker 20: it didn't. And not just ours, it was all over
• 52:07
  Speaker 20: the country, so it's not like, you know, they focused
• 52:09
  Speaker 20: on us.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: But uh, we're we're hopeful it will. It will happen,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: all right.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: We got to leave it there, Ben, I appreciate you
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: being here. Thanks, thanks a lot. Do you want to
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: remind you that the state softball tournament continuing.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Out at Little Creek Park.
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