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- 0:00Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
- 0:03I'm here with Alison the Boss, and this is an episode of Red Chill
- 0:09Cinema. Um, and what I'm gonna be we're gonna be talking about today
- 0:15is you guys probably know about the saga that was us going through the uh
- 0:22Scooby Doo spoof show called Velma. It's a it's a spoof off of the
- 0:29Scooby Doo, but it's well, no, it is a self sort of.
- 0:33Yeah, it's a selfiest like I'm pretty sure if that girl didn't I'm
- 0:40pretty sure Bright didn't exist, that woman would be a fem cel. Yeah,
- 0:44one of the creepiest human beings I've ever on the earth. Yeah,
- 0:51mindy kyling. Uh. She was known for her role in the Office.
- 0:56I think I didn't watch The Office, so I don't know much about it.
- 1:00And um, I also know her. She did like little bit parts
- 1:04in a number of comedies and stuff. But but yeah, so she was
- 1:11involved or in charge of doing this, I don't. I don't. I
- 1:15can't even call it a remake. It's basically just taking the Velma character from
- 1:19the beloved show cartoon show Scooby Doo, where are you? And making her
- 1:25the central character and everything else was essentially like you know, off the rails.
- 1:30It was just a terrible, terrible show. It was a terrible show.
- 1:36Well, yeah, that was poorly written. It was poorly conceived.
- 1:38Yeah, I mean, who would give it a few moments of levity in
- 1:42the final scene like a final episode, like I felt there was some chemistry
- 1:48and amusing quips between the the Fred character and the Velma character, and the
- 1:53final episode that we watched it was the only episode that tolerate watching. And
- 1:57um, so, I mean he had leaned it to that it might have
- 2:00been absolutely hilarious, you know, like just a crazy buddy cop comedy between
- 2:08like a misogynist and a misinterest you. I mean, I would watch it,
- 2:15you know, I mean if I thought. But again, like,
- 2:19well, I'm gonna I'll talk about why why I'm bringing this up? So
- 2:23the two two big two things. Okay, number one, they are making
- 2:27a season two. Now I'm gonna show you guys the article for that.
- 2:31Um also, you don't have to really look at it. So but uh,
- 2:37they are making a season two for Velma. I can give you the
- 2:39link if you want to look at it. Hold on, I'll just send
- 2:43it through Hunt. Huh. Lant does not factor into this. Yeah,
- 2:47I know, it's it's not really a want, but I guess it's uh,
- 2:52you know, if I have to. You know, it's it's kind
- 2:57of that. But they are making a season two. Yeah, it's been
- 3:00confirmed. My suspicion is because the show didn't do well. But the problem
- 3:06is I think that there was a contract and that the both seasons were already
- 3:09made at least two seasons, so they kind of like have to go through
- 3:14with it. It's kind of like exactly the same thing as this Rings of
- 3:16Power show, Right, So the Rings of Power is getting another season.
- 3:21And even though like it was universally panned, everyone hated it, nothing to
- 3:25do with Tolkien's work, you know, it just it just flew in the
- 3:30face of it all, and it was very clear, made very clear,
- 3:34not just by Tolkien fans, but even just regular folks that like enjoyed the
- 3:37movies, you know, the Peter Jackson movies. But they have to make
- 3:42it a second season because they again contracts, they've already the money's been spent,
- 3:46you know, and now they had to like just kind of go through
- 3:50the motions. So I think that's what's going on with Velma. But what
- 3:53we're gonna says like, I don't know, if you've ever suffered from severe
- 3:57constipation and you get to a point where you're hurt, Yeah, yeah,
- 4:01studios are this. I know that's a grotesque analogy, but I think it
- 4:05deserves it. It's we can't go back, but something's gonna have to give.
- 4:12Yeah, I think it's relevant. Um So Albatross says it got a
- 4:16season two out of hate watching. You know that that's what they're claiming.
- 4:20But I don't. I don't think that's true. I think that's just cope,
- 4:25you know, I mean really, I mean it's it's people will cancel
- 4:30their their Warner brother or their HBO Max, which is a Warner Brothers company.
- 4:34Um, if they if they um feel like that, you know,
- 4:38it's being this is being sort of shoved down their throats. I mean they
- 4:41already try, like when people rejected it before, like they you know,
- 4:44they did the usual thing of calling people who didn't like the show misogynists and
- 4:48racist and all these other things, just like every other thing that they try
- 4:53to put out there and make us watch. Um, but like, the
- 4:57real thing that I want to use this as an opportunity for is to show
- 5:00that these people are just bad at television. They're just bad at writing.
- 5:06So even if, like you, you want to make a parody of uh,
- 5:13you know of Scooby Doo, there is a way to do it and
- 5:16enjoy yourself. And I think that the people involved with Velma season two are
- 5:20not enjoying themselves. So I'll demonstrate that in a moment. First, I
- 5:25guess we'll look at a couple of things from this movie web article and Alison,
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- 8:22All right back to you, Brian. Okay, so let's get into
- 8:26it. First, a quick shout out to the rumbull Chat. What's up
- 8:30rumbull Chat, how you guys doing, and be sure to leave us comments
- 8:35and send super chats and super childs and all that good stuff. I look
- 8:39forward to seeing your thoughts. So I guess well, first I'll just get
- 8:43into the article here that's sort of like you know, talks about the release
- 8:48of season two. So last year Max's Scooby Doo inspired series, Velma,
- 8:52took the world by storm for all the wrong reasons, slam trombone and tuba.
- 9:05Actually I think it's a tuba. Slammed by critics and audiences, gaining
- 9:09historically low review rates and showing all signs of being one of the most hated
- 9:13animated projects ever released, it seemed the only thing guaranteed was that the show
- 9:18would not be seeing a renewal anytime soon. At least that is what many
- 9:24assumed would happen. But given its huge ratings mainly being driven by hate watching
- 9:31and people who didn't believe the show could be as bad as the reviews made
- 9:33it out to be, it looks like Velma Season two is now officially happening.
- 9:37See again, I've heard this argument. I don't think. I don't
- 9:41think it's true. I think it's cope. Yeah, I think absolutely,
- 9:45Like HBO is going to say, oh no, no, we have a
- 9:46lot of watchers. They're probably just hate watching so they can make content about
- 9:50it. I didn't even see that much content about this. This isn't like
- 9:54you know, the Star Wars Disney Star Wars stuff, or Indiana Jones or
- 9:58all the other franchises they demolished. Like people literally didn't really care. I
- 10:03think, like other than a few people on Internet that we're talking about it,
- 10:09I think we were like one of very few people that were even and
- 10:13we didn't even give it that much time. Right then we watched like we
- 10:16didn't or something. For sure. We didn't give HBO any views either.
- 10:22Yeah. I just wanted to point out that, you know that the people
- 10:26like the the the Television Writer's Guild or whatever is on strike, right,
- 10:31Screenwriter's Guild, I think it is, Mum, I know about that,
- 10:35right, yeah, for better wages because they're being fired yeah yeah yeah,
- 10:43like and or or they're being laid off because you know, the the the
- 10:50Koup and the whole Black Rock and other corporations. Well what about the strike.
- 10:54Isn't it a writer strike going on? Is that what you mean?
- 10:58That's what they're that's their action. Yeah, yeah, Well what's happened is
- 11:03all of that venture capital that was flowing in in order to get these companies
- 11:09whatever ratings woke ratings up has dried up. And now and now these places
- 11:15are these um studios are realizing, oh, we have to appeal to the
- 11:20audience to actually get funds because the bubble for woke television has popped, the
- 11:28artificial bubble created by all the black rocks funding this crap um it's pop.
- 11:35So now we actually have to appeal to the audience. And these people are
- 11:39getting fired or are alternatively their their wages are being reduced, and they have
- 11:43an audacity to write an article about how this is going to make TV worse.
- 11:48It's like, oh, it's not gonna make TV worse. It's not
- 11:54even possible to make TV worse. At this point. Yeah, there's no
- 11:58mark anymore for your overly woke stuff. I mean maybe there is. Maybe,
- 12:03maybe they just pushed the envelope far enough so we tolerate a new level
- 12:07of woke, but they're going to pull it back and make us feel like
- 12:09we have a had a victory. But yeah, it's like the markets dried
- 12:15up. Now you have to to actually have merit, which you don't.
- 12:18You're terrible writers. I mean you did like the Screenwriters Guild. You guys
- 12:22don't represent writers. And also the thing is that there's been writers in the
- 12:26past couple of years who have literally waged war against their audience, much like
- 12:33they've literally call out to say, yeah, this is supposed to be about
- 12:37insulting the audience and strolling the audience. Yeah, it's like, well now
- 12:41you're like, oh, well, are we losing our jobs? Who guess
- 12:45who are you going to appeal to? Why don't you appeal to all the
- 12:46people you didn't insult? Oh wait, I guess that doesn't include an audience
- 12:52for your shows? Like yeah, well yeah, I mean this is what
- 12:58did What I think this is is all of these people that used to be
- 13:01on Tumblr with their fan fictions, they all got jobs and they used um,
- 13:07you know, the the the writing the writers unions and the various uh
- 13:13you know esg stuff so they can get their jobs by saying, well,
- 13:16I'm a woman, I'm queer on this, I'm that give me the job.
- 13:20And they just bring their fan fictions in here because that's that's what it
- 13:24to me, that's what it looks like. I I mean, it's a
- 13:26chat. GPT should write scripts from now on. It would be better than
- 13:30what these people are producing. Like you know the West the Wes Anderson Star
- 13:35Wars trailer that I heard about it AI and I'll say, wow, okay,
- 13:43that that that actually looks like a better take than the one I've seen
- 13:46at Disney Studios for the past six years. But the other thing I wanted
- 13:52to point out is you're absolutely right, this is fan fic. And you
- 13:56know why they appropriate already existing IP and characters because fanfic writers don't realize there's
- 14:03a huge chasm of knowledge between the average fanfic writer and the average professional writer.
- 14:09And you know what that chasm of knowledge is making people care about your
- 14:13characters. So they just think pre like characters that people already care about,
- 14:18absolutely run them to the ground, treat them like dirt to push their own
- 14:22weird messages, which basically amount to I am the ideal human. And then
- 14:28and then like, people don't like it, and they don't have the actual
- 14:33writer chops to create new characters like they they're not writers. Like these individuals
- 14:39fan fic writers. There can be some really great fanfic writers. Okay,
- 14:43don't get me wrong, but there is something. There's a really big limitation
- 14:48when you are just a fanfic writer versus a professional writer or somebody who's trying
- 14:52to be a professional, successful, professional writer, and that is you're already
- 14:58inheriting character that people love and want to follow. That's why fan kit can
- 15:03be full of slice of life dreck. Yes, somebody's already made those characters
- 15:09appealing and sympathetic, so people will read that. But then they take that
- 15:13fanfic mentality to actual writing. Okay, it's like it's like speaking your easy
- 15:20bake of into an actual kitchen. You are actually like five its three star
- 15:24kitchen. You're not gonna get anywhere. But it's a joke, and the
- 15:28work that they want is a joke. And even beyond then, they hide
- 15:31it behind all this woke stuff is self righteous when in fact, what they're
- 15:35hiding behind, what they're hiding behind that self righteous veneer is inability and cowardice.
- 15:45Like this is what's hilarious about this, Like they don't I don't think
- 15:48they really give a crap about anything they talk about, as long as it
- 15:52doesn't as long as it benefits them, as long as they can hide their
- 15:56weaknesses behind this this shield of self righteousness. But they don't, like I
- 16:02said, they're bringing that fanfic mentality. Well, the fanfic mentality is you
- 16:06don't you think you're a good writer because you've written However many fan ficks that
- 16:11have gotten like a million views or something, No, you're not. You
- 16:14don't know what real writing is. Yeah, I was gonna say that,
- 16:21you know, we use the word fanfic to describe it. But I don't
- 16:25think these people are fans of what they're adapting. I think that they see
- 16:27that the thing that they're you know, writing about, it's it carries with
- 16:33it a certain amount of status. Right, So if you make up your
- 16:37own thing, like from scratch, you come through your own characters, your
- 16:41own story or whatever, your own setting, it's not going to get as
- 16:45much eyes on it, you know, as it would if you did a
- 16:51fan fic of something else. So I think that like there, it's probably
- 16:56they may have like a passing interest and whatever it is, whether it's Star
- 17:02Wars or Scooby Doo. But ultimately, they don't really care about the source
- 17:07material at all, which is why the fan fic always seems off or like
- 17:12it's completely wrong or they've changed everything about it. So, you know,
- 17:18like the the infamous fan fiction is basically a fan fiction that the Mary Sue
- 17:25term comes from is a Star Trek fan fiction, right, And there's this
- 17:30new like ensign or something, and her name is Mary Sue, and like
- 17:36she you know, all of the main characters, Yeah, she saves the
- 17:40day, but more than that, like everyone likes her the you know,
- 17:44Spock and Bones and Kirk, they're all in love with her, but you
- 17:48know, she doesn't have time for them. Like it's just and that's I
- 17:52mean, that's literally like what you should never do when you're telling a story.
- 17:56And yet in our in our modern you know, media, it's so
- 18:00common, you know. So what were you going to say about that?
- 18:06Well, what I was going to say is that I think the real litmus
- 18:10test, and I think a lot of people on the anti woke bandwagon don't
- 18:14realize this. The real litmus test for a Mary Sue is if you look
- 18:18at characters that beloved characters their character arcs. A lot of the time are
- 18:26about them getting over their own bullshit. And what that is is that you
- 18:32have a character and the character is in some way harming others, and the
- 18:37story is the process of them dealing with the fallout of their own actions,
- 18:41the negative fallout of their own actions, until they learn to do better,
- 18:48to be a better person. Yeah, and that you so to example,
- 18:52to use an example Ray versus Luke. Luke had to get over his own
- 18:59bullshit. And what that was was a sort of a a self righteous fanaticism
- 19:04like which is typified by I remember the scene where he goes into the swamp
- 19:08and then kills him kills Yeah, he was, well, he wanted to
- 19:11go and like fight the Empire. He was like like, uh, you
- 19:15know, all like like pissing Vinegar in the beginning of Empire Strikes Back.
- 19:18Yeah, Leiah was also pissed in Vinegar. They both had that same uh
- 19:23inherently the same spirit which they probably inherited from their father and uh you know,
- 19:30so you see, like it's a whole family thing. And Luke had
- 19:33to get over that. So his great triumph isn't like destroying the darks the
- 19:40Death Star, isn't like getting uh Vader to kill Emperor Palpatine. It's getting
- 19:45over his own bullshit about defeating the villain in order to redeem his father.
- 19:56Right. It was literally Jordan Peterson's you know, like Good and the the
- 20:00Whale rescue your father from the underworld. That that's literally the story. And
- 20:03to overcome your own problems, like the things that you are doing that potentially
- 20:11or are already harming other people. That's what makes a powerful character arc,
- 20:17and that's completely absent with the Mary Sue. A Mary Sue can never be
- 20:21herself wrong, like she can never have bullshit that she needs to overcome.
- 20:26If she is in any way has bullshit, the world around her has to
- 20:30conform to it and make it something charming or quirky. R fute you notice
- 20:36that, Yeah, we can never be the one needs to change, right.
- 20:41The Luke character is actually probably one of the best examples. You can
- 20:45also say that Bilbo is similar, but the Luke character starts off he's naive,
- 20:53he's childish, he throws little temper tantrums, he's basically a boy,
- 20:59and then by the end of the first by the end of a New Hope
- 21:03episode four, he is like on the path to manhood and then in the
- 21:10second one, he's like, you know, he still has much to learn
- 21:15about, but it's not about like the Force and the lightsabers. I mean,
- 21:18that's all. That's all fine and dandy, it's great stuff, but
- 21:21it's really about personal growth and humility, and that's what happens in Empire.
- 21:26And then the last one is his ultimate test in Return of the Jedi,
- 21:30because he is what's short of shown to him in the second film, through
- 21:36some overt imagery and some suggested um things, is that he if he doesn't
- 21:42if he isn't careful, he will end up just like his father. And
- 21:47so he in saving his father in the third film, he saves himself from
- 21:52becoming like Vader, and that and that's why that you know, those movies
- 21:56are appealing because you can see Luke's growth from a new hope all the way
- 22:02to the end of Return of the Jedi. He's like a completely different person
- 22:04because he has grown up, but like all of the wisdom that he's acquired,
- 22:10and even from his father, even though his father was his enemy,
- 22:14he learned a lot from Vader as well. So this this is, I
- 22:18mean, this is you can find stories like this all all over literature,
- 22:22especially the great works. Right, um, without going into it, you
- 22:26can see this in The Hobbit and in Lord of the Rings, and I'm
- 22:30sure that you guys watching have a ton of other examples that are very similar.
- 22:33But what were you going to say about Ray? Because I could say
- 22:37that it's basically it's absent. Yeah, we could go on and on about
- 22:41it, but go on his Well, I know this is probably surprising,
- 22:44but both of our jams is storytelling. But the like even I mean,
- 22:52I would say even, I mean, like I very much care about men's
- 22:55issues, but I am a storyteller, Like that's my nature. But Ray,
- 23:00all right, what's the problem with Ray? Now, admittedly I've only
- 23:03watched one of the one of the movies makes one eighty in her character?
- 23:11At one point, is there a suggestion, especially after the first movie,
- 23:17that Ray has bullshit she needs to overcome. And what that means is is
- 23:22that she's harming other people, She's choosing to harm other people, and that
- 23:26she needs to learn a lesson about taking responsibility for the power that she's given.
- 23:33Not what I usually see, which is that a woman needs to take
- 23:41off the shackles put on her by a patriarchal blah blah blah blah blah,
- 23:47and and find that she is enough in and of itself. That is not
- 23:49a character arc. That is utter bullshit. Yeah, it's it's hilarious because
- 23:53Joseph Campbell sort of called this, He said that there is no female hero
- 24:00journey because the feminine is where everyone wants to get to. That bullshit about
- 24:06how women need to learn that they're fine as they are is basically a is
- 24:12a ratification of what Joseph Campbell said. I don't know if ratification is but
- 24:18a confirmation of Joseph Campbell's framing that women don't have a hero's journey at least
- 24:23not at all like the male's journey. Well, I mean, I don't
- 24:26even think it's a hero's journey period, Like really that you're you're great discovery
- 24:33is that you're fine as you are? No, No, No, that's
- 24:36that that's not a journey at all. That's literally a feminist like idea because
- 24:38like Captain Marvel, that's the story of Captain Marvel, right, like she
- 24:44was great as she was, it's just men were holding her back. That's
- 24:47that's literally the point of that movie. Which, yeah, that's not.
- 24:49That is basically what Joseph Campbell said, which is hysterical because the feminists were
- 24:53upset with him. He's like, no, there's no female hero's journey and
- 24:57I'm like, wow, oh sure, women discovering that the feminine is what?
- 25:03Where is the end goal of everything? That's exactly what he said.
- 25:08He basically said that the feminine and the female is complete in and of itself.
- 25:12Therefore, there can be no feminine hero's journey. You know, the
- 25:18only way you can have the hero's journey is if the hero says boy or
- 25:22not says but it has bullshit that they need to overcome through mentors, through
- 25:27training, through questioning themselves, through doubting, and ultimately take responsibility for the
- 25:33powers they have. If you're if you're saying that femininity is static and perfect
- 25:38as it is, you can't. The tooth concepts are incompatible. And that's
- 25:44why Mary Sues exists because the women writing them and the menu, they don't
- 25:52understand that a powerful character needs to have that arc where they learn that they
- 26:00are engaging in bullshit behavior and they need to challenge themselves about it and overcome
- 26:06it. That's the hero's journey more than anything else. It isn't just oh,
- 26:10I'm gonna level up, you know, like I'm I'm gonna go find
- 26:12the black pearl and then the purple pearl, and then the red pearl,
- 26:15and then I'm gonna have a whole pearl necklace and take out quality. You
- 26:19know. That's bullshit, that's not that Yeah, ironic, I don't have
- 26:29the button, just do it myself, I do. I know what you
- 26:32mean. You know, that's why I raised very Sue, Like there's no
- 26:36recognition that she's internal bullshit. That's why most female characters written today are Mary
- 26:41Sues. They're terrible because there's no recognition that they have bullshit that they need
- 26:47to overcome. They're all must need to find out that they're perfect in and
- 26:49of themselves. Well, no one is. I got somebody, somebody brought
- 26:55up something interesting. What about the main character from the Snow Queen? So
- 27:02um? Is it the like Frozen with the original story of Frozen that had
- 27:06a female main character? Right? Kind of like Alice in Wonderland is like
- 27:10that too. I guess those could be. I mean they're not. They
- 27:14they are. Their construction is completely different from the male hero's journey, and
- 27:18I do think that writing women well in as the protagonist in a story is
- 27:25harder because it's like, you know, I talked to Jonathan Pego about this,
- 27:30and he said that, um, you know, if the story of
- 27:33the hero's journey for men is the story of Christ, which is like similar,
- 27:37than the story for women is like the Virgin Mary, and it's it's
- 27:42tricky to write a good story in that framework. But I think it can
- 27:47be done. Um. And I think, yeah, like I think of
- 27:49Alice in Wonderland, I think of the Wizard of Oz, right, it's
- 27:55all like, it's all social stuff, like she makes friends with the Scarecrow
- 28:00and the Lion and the tin Man and they you know, and and she
- 28:03discovers, like she unravels the mystery. Maybe that's why. What was the
- 28:07name of those really popular books that had a female teenager that was like solving
- 28:11mysteries, you know what I'm talking about? Nancy True? Yeah, Nancy
- 28:17True right, Like those were you know, they were huge. I mean,
- 28:21granted there was also a male version, the Hardy Boys, but but
- 28:23yeah, okay, so I can give you some some I think I can
- 28:29add to that, um, all right with them. With Dorothy, she
- 28:34had to discover that her desire to for something more than home, like yes,
- 28:41that whole something worth I guess fighting for or wanting to get back to.
- 28:45So there was some bullshit that she had to deal with. Um with
- 28:48Nancy Drew like, mysteries are a bit different. Mysteries and action stories can
- 28:55be a little bit different. YEA. They that what the draw isn't necessarily
- 29:00a character overcoming themselves. The draw is often for a mystery, it's watching
- 29:06someone solve a mystery. So yeah, you're watching someone make make connections.
- 29:12Or in an action movie, you're watching someone respond to external circumstances. That's
- 29:18sort of the the emotional draw details you know, like rules, Yeah,
- 29:25fascinating for people. Um, it doesn't necessarily have to include like a character
- 29:30arc often doesn't because mysteries are reoccurring. Um, then they want to they
- 29:34don't want to, Like if you change too much about the character, it's
- 29:37difficult to keep going in a in a in some in a series that doesn't
- 29:42have a finite end. So mysteries they tend to have a really interesting character,
- 29:48but the character themselves doesn't do a lot of evolution. Um. Same
- 29:52with action and that's fine because it's sort of a different kind of genre.
- 29:56But this kind of hero's journey character arc, I think really needs that sense
- 30:00of self doubt and questioning your own Spider Man. Spider Man is exact as
- 30:07an example of this that is like the prototypical like Hero's journey, Yeah,
- 30:12in your own bullshit. Yeah, for sure. You don't see that with
- 30:18female characters in many sences, Like you don't, and it's really unfortunate because
- 30:23you get really flat female characters, and like it's there's a lot of ways
- 30:29to have a character overcome their own bullshit, there's only one way to have
- 30:33a character discover that they're perfectly fine as they are. Yeah, basically they're
- 30:38just writing one female character, and that one female character is flat and boring.
- 30:45Yeah, there you go. Even Leia, Leia had her own um
- 30:48because she had some of the same problems that Luke did, and definitely that
- 30:52Vader did this kind of self righteous vehemence um, and she was justified in
- 30:57a lot of ways. But you know, Vader felt like he was justified.
- 31:02You mean when you mean Vader in the original trilogy or Anakin in the
- 31:07Anakin Okay, okay, yeah, sorry, no, no, it's Okay,
- 31:11I just want to because the Anakin does definitely, I mean, it's
- 31:14tragic, but it's a it's an arc on the lest so well, I
- 31:18mean the whole thing really when you really look at it from that kind of
- 31:22emotional what are they? What bullshit are they coming? Overcoming thematic arc?
- 31:26It really fits together very well. I think the prequels suffered from I think
- 31:33Lucas has an U shiny san syndrome. Uh and uh. When he's when
- 31:38he's sort of rained in by a producer or or rained in by the studio,
- 31:47or rained in by limitations on his his resources, that doesn't come cross
- 31:52as much. So you see more of his like the things that he feels
- 31:56like he needs to say emotionally. That makes sense as opposed to the U
- 32:00shiny Yeah. Right, let's let's go up with ten. I got ten
- 32:05idea for ten more aliens in the background. I'm want to stick them in
- 32:07there, but they're not They're not really important, not really important. It's
- 32:12like the stories here, So I mean when when he has constraints, that
- 32:16comes through more strongly when he doesn't like it's more like more oo shiny.
- 32:22But anyway, so, but the original trilogy really really had this in spades,
- 32:27and Leah was a reflection of Luke, and they both were a reflection
- 32:30of their father, and they both all of them had to sort of deal
- 32:32with the same Yeah, like I think, well, I was gonna say
- 32:38that their arcs like they're developed, their journeys are different, but they're but
- 32:43the that's it starts from the same place. So like, you know,
- 32:45Leia ends up you know, she starts off as like a diplomat and you
- 32:51know, princess, and then her planets is destroyed, so she's not really
- 32:53a princess of anything anymore. And then she just becomes like another uh so
- 33:00oldier because I don't think that she becomes like a general or anything like that,
- 33:02unless I'm remembering that wrong. In the original trilogy. In the original
- 33:06trilogy, yeah, there was like mon Mathma and yeah, yeah, and
- 33:12then there's like some I don't know, some bearded guy. I forget their
- 33:15names and everything. So I apologize for that. But what I'm saying is
- 33:17is that she also learns, like her some humility, she learns to she
- 33:25falls in love with Han, she goes and rescues him, and so like
- 33:29that that is I think a change in her character as well. But anyway,
- 33:35um oh, I want to get into the article, but first let
- 33:38me just say one other thing. I think the fan fiction writing. I
- 33:44think that is probably a big part of what's going on because those people wanted
- 33:50to become writers for shows, and I think that, but just based on
- 33:53the quality of our entertainment right now, I think that they're just getting jobs.
- 33:58And I think it all started with fifty Shades of Gray because if I'm
- 34:04not I think fifty Shades of Gray was the first, if or one of
- 34:09the first fan fictions that became their own franchise, because if I remember correctly,
- 34:15fifty Shades of Gray was Twilight fan fiction. Now the bar is really
- 34:19low if you're starting from Twilight, which also appears to be fan fiction,
- 34:23but I mean, from what I understand, it's not. And then you
- 34:27make fifty Shades of Gray based on Twilight. But um, and then fifty
- 34:30Shades of Gray went on to be a gigantic seller with women right like it
- 34:36sells. It sold so many copies, and like Karen writes, you know,
- 34:39like degenerate stuff, but she doesn't, she doesn't sell the kinds of
- 34:44copies that fifty shades did so, I don't know. That's just something I'm
- 34:49throwing out there. What are you gonna thousand? You also write this stuff?
- 34:53Uh story, But I would not say the level of fifty is our
- 35:01rated stuff or is it? It probably would be considered maybe like PG.
- 35:07Thirteen. I don't know, it's not it's not like a it's not a
- 35:10purely shall we say, um uh kid friendly story. Yeah sure, but
- 35:20it's not smart like fifty Shades of Gray. Um. I think I mean,
- 35:24like I would you know, I would probably read I probably should read
- 35:30fifty Shades of Gray and Twilight just to understand the appeal. It may not
- 35:35actually understand the appeal. I remember when we didn't read but go ahead,
- 35:40we didn't reading a fifty Shades of Gray. Excuse me with the patrons.
- 35:44Oh yeah, Christian gray into Christian Graybeard. Yeah, like I would just
- 35:52just gave him like a pirate accent. It was actually that's great. Yeah,
- 35:58she's driving minuts. Literally No, it was just it was it was
- 36:07actually pretty funny. But um, you know, like there's there's probably something
- 36:13in it that could be analyzed from what it has a mass appeal. Um,
- 36:17like just the maybe the emotional story. What really happened as a result
- 36:22of that is everybody's doing these really crappy young adult romance and they actually they
- 36:29call it adult romance so they can have the sex without feeling bad that they're
- 36:32writing for twelve year olds. Yeah, so it's the the the publishing industry
- 36:40right now is an utter mess because everybody is chasing after the Harry Potter,
- 36:45Twilight, fifty Shades of Gray ideas, divergent, What's what are some of
- 36:51the other popular young adult novels, Uh, Hunger games, Hunger games?
- 36:57Right, it's mostly it's mostly women that are drawn to this. Yeah,
- 37:01And honestly, it's uh, it's really destroyed the publishing industry, you know,
- 37:08and because every single agent seems to want to find the same damn thing,
- 37:14and it's destroyed the midlist. I actually did a sort of a solo
- 37:17stream that I haven't made publicum for on this, but I was looking into
- 37:24it. I was researching it. Since the last like six or seven years,
- 37:29the midlist has gone from regularly selling like forty to fifty thousand. You
- 37:34know what the midlist is, right, Brian, No, I don't,
- 37:37Okay. The midlist is the books that publishers put out that are not best
- 37:44sellers, so they're not the Grisons or Sills or Kings, but they do
- 37:50sell well and over time they can sell as much as a best seller.
- 37:54They just need a longer so for example, if you looked over ten years,
- 37:59they might actually sell as much as a best seller. It's just that
- 38:01they don't sell as much initially. So when the really popular bestsellers have lost
- 38:07their audience, the midlist tends to retain an audience, but it's a little
- 38:12smaller. It's more niche, and they make money for the publishers. But
- 38:15the midlist has disappeared. We used to have a midlist that, you know,
- 38:19the average title would sell fifty forty to fifty thousand a year. Now
- 38:23the midlist sells ten thousand, like the average title in the midlist ten thousand
- 38:28if they're lucky. And from what I've noticed from as a reader, a
- 38:32part of what's happened is midlist quality has declined remarkably and there's this focus on
- 38:38diversity rather than producing something with merit, and people don't come back to a
- 38:45diversity I mean, they collect their their paraplegic lesbian black woman and they put
- 38:51it on their shelf and they're done. They never buy her book again,
- 38:53never buy another book from her again either, you know. So it's like
- 38:59the mid list has really declined in popularity. The other thing is that all
- 39:05of the agents now don't seem to be the kind of people who promote these
- 39:09kind of midlists or mid midlist titles, which again tend more niche. They
- 39:15tend to be like science fiction or fantasy idea of books rather than mystery or
- 39:19thriller or horror, high concept things stuff Like I said, it gains an
- 39:25audience and it keeps an audience, but it doesn't really sell really fast initially
- 39:30because it maybe has a higher bar of entry in terms of having to think
- 39:35about things you know, just you don't on page one and then just move
- 39:38through tepid putting to the end. You actually have to think about what's going
- 39:44on. Um. Like, one of the agents I listened to while I
- 39:47was doing the research on this said that they don't like prologus that start well
- 39:52before the beginning of the story, or or stories that switch a switch point
- 40:00of view or switch time. I'm like, are you a child? Like
- 40:05now you have just removed almost everything in the midlist like the science fiction and
- 40:08fantasy Midlist. This is like common science fiction and fantasy tropes. And to
- 40:15have a prologue set in the past, to sort of set the world building,
- 40:17to switch between times and points of view, to just give you a
- 40:22wide swath. And I'm like, so this is one of the agents that's
- 40:27preventing books from being published. Have you ever made the connection between that and
- 40:31the fact that the midlist is just getting worse and worse every year. I
- 40:35mean, in another five years, probably the Midlist will be lucky if they
- 40:37sell a hundred a thousand books per an entry. Anyway, So this is
- 40:45just again more of the same destruction of storytelling that we're seeing across the board.
- 40:51Yep. And this is an aggression. So we need to get back
- 40:53to the Okay, we'll get back, But yeah, I agree on all
- 40:57that. I do have a super chowel. I'm going to read it real
- 41:00quick. It's from Meredith Gee because us five dollars. Thank you, Meredith,
- 41:04and she says red chill cinema, honey for the Badger. As Velmont
- 41:07didn't renew the second season, episodes were produced with the first season. Mindy
- 41:14Kyling is the writer who was the driving force behind this, and she was
- 41:16picked specifically because she ticked some diversity boxes. This show demonstrated she was overrated.
- 41:22Yeah, so I was gonna say, I thought that they had already
- 41:24had almost everything like written up or created, and that they were I mean,
- 41:30I guess they split it into two seasons, but it was intended to
- 41:35be just one big season, so they're just splitting it in half and hoping
- 41:38I guess that people will want to watch the rest of it, or maybe
- 41:42they had to change some things. I don't know, but thank you for
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- 42:14and and of course there's also the issue like the censorship and also disappearing
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- 42:23Yeah, just the tip, Yeah, for sure. And maybe one
- 42:28day we won't even be on YouTube if they get uh, you know,
- 42:31crazy enough, So maybe follow us on Rumble at HB Radio I believe is
- 42:37the name of the channel, and Twitch which is the same. So anyway,
- 42:40let me finish this article. It's really short. It's just talking about
- 42:44season two of Velma. So um. Velma Season two is now officially happening
- 42:50again. It's already it was already made as per comic book dot Com.
- 42:53Warner Brothers Discovery held their panel today at Annise Festival, which saw them revealing
- 42:59details of their upcoming animated projects or would to be a fly on the wall
- 43:02in that room? I wonder how many people actually went to this to this
- 43:07panel. After months of speculation and rumor that Velma would incredulously beginning another bite
- 43:14of the cherry, the panel confirmed that Mindy Kayling's reimagining of the Scooby DOOO
- 43:19franchise as an R rated murder mystery will be getting new episodes for everyone to
- 43:23enjoy or enjoy hating some more. While there has been no further details revealed
- 43:30about how the second series will take on board the many criticisms of the first,
- 43:35if at all it is pretty much guaranteed that the voice act the voicecast,
- 43:38including Kyling, Constance Wu, and Sam Richardson, will be returning to
- 43:43voice their unique versions of the Much Love Scooby Gang. There are many reboots,
- 43:49right, so anyway, I'll just leave it at that. There.
- 43:52They just kind of like go on to say that, you know, this
- 43:55show wasn't very popular, but it has high ratings because of hay watching,
- 44:00which again I don't think I agree with, and I wanted to show like
- 44:05that there's nothing wrong with parody, So I mean, I like parody when
- 44:10it's well done. You know, Airplane is one of my favorite comedies,
- 44:15and it parodied all of these kind of disaster films that were really popular at
- 44:19the time. And there was like there was a TV show, very short
- 44:23lived, very ingenious. It was called Police Squad, and it was making
- 44:28fun of all these cop shows that were very popular. We know, like
- 44:30these kind of gumshoe detective shows that were really popular. And there's lots of
- 44:37other examples, right that are done well. And what the difference is,
- 44:42in my opinion, is that you know that it's done well if the person
- 44:46who's making the parody is in love with what they're parodying. So if they're
- 44:52like a big fan of what it is they're parodying, they can poke fun
- 44:57at it because they know that it's maybe they find there are some things that
- 45:01are kind of absurd or whatever, but they're but they like it anyway,
- 45:06right, And um, I does that make sense? Alison? What I'm
- 45:09saying like that you can you can parody something and love it, so you
- 45:14you kind of like you kind of honor it while you're poking fun. And
- 45:17I think that the way that good writers or people who are writing good comedy,
- 45:24what what makes it enjoyable for all of us, is that they're playing.
- 45:30It's a it's there, it's they're engaged in a kind of play.
- 45:31A James Gunn, who you guys might know as a you know, he
- 45:36still worked for Trauma. I think he's still involved with Trauma. And he
- 45:38made the Guardians of the Galaxy films. I didn't see the last one,
- 45:43so I don't know about that, but I know the first one especially was
- 45:47incredible, right, and everyone loved it. And he said in an interview
- 45:52that, uh, what why he liked it so much is that he believed
- 45:55that, you know, making films or directing or whatever it is. You
- 46:01have to be able to do some playing. And of course if you watch
- 46:06Guardians, it's it's a lot of fun to watch because he was engaged in
- 46:09play. He knew that he was telling a story that was so like out
- 46:15there. You know, it's it out of space and there's a tree and
- 46:17a raccoon and all that. But he was like, you know, I'm
- 46:20just gonna lean into it, and I'm just gonna you know, humanize these
- 46:23characters as much as possible, and he did. That was why the Guardians
- 46:27worked, because it wasn't because they were aliens. It was because they were
- 46:30like us, but they looked alien. And so you could say in a
- 46:37lot of ways he was parodying, you know, the science fiction that sort
- 46:42of like space opera stuff that you know, Star Wars is known for.
- 46:45You could say that that that's what he was doing. But he was clearly
- 46:50someone who also was in love with it, and so he was able to
- 46:52do it well without having the kind of mean spirited, you know, bitter
- 46:59a probe that the Scooby Doo had, or or or even the Star Wars
- 47:04movies, like the Disney Star Wars stuff. He's all like, you know,
- 47:07let's take what's been established and let's like strip it of any soul and
- 47:13leave like a husk behind. Let's kill off everybody. Let's you know,
- 47:17inject our own like I don't know, like uh ocs in there. And
- 47:23I mean even like guys like Dave Filoni are guilty of that. I mean
- 47:27he he put Asca in the Clone Wars and I liked the character as a
- 47:31small side character, but he was so in love with this fictional thing he
- 47:37made his oc that he put her in everything and had her lived through all
- 47:43of it. It was like, this is cringe man, Like it's obvious
- 47:46what you're doing. You know, you're trying to make Asoka happen. It's
- 47:50not gonna happen. So so um anyway, uh so that's what I think
- 47:58is important. So I said all that to say this. I don't know,
- 48:00Alison, I don't you want to say anything before I get into the
- 48:04next part of this. But all right, So I said all that to
- 48:07say this. Years before, like in the two thousands, I think the
- 48:13show came out and I mentioned this yesterday. There was a very well done
- 48:19parody of Scooby Doo and there was a show called The Venture Brothers. If
- 48:23you guys know about The Venture Brothers, they have seven seasons. I think
- 48:29there was talk of an eighth one. I thought I saw a trailer for
- 48:31it the other day, but I don't know if it's real or not,
- 48:34because I looked into it and I guess I'm hearing that it's a troll thing
- 48:37or that the show just got canceled. But The Venture Brothers was a fucking
- 48:42amazing show. It was basically again, it was taking these old like kind
- 48:47of animated shows and science fiction and superhero stuff from the nineteen sixties, and
- 48:55it was doing a parody of all that. Especially Johnny Quest was a kind
- 49:00boy. It was central and I loved Johnny Quest as a kid. I
- 49:01thought it was such a good show. I've met Jonathan like Johnny Quest.
- 49:05Allison didn't he I bet he did. Yeah, I would have to ask,
- 49:08but yeah, there's no way he didn't like Johnny Quest. And the
- 49:14thing is is, I watched a documentary about Johnny Quest, and what I
- 49:16learned was Hannah Barbara, the guys who created it, what they what their
- 49:22goal was was. They wanted to make a science fiction adventure show for adults
- 49:30like adults and children alike, so like it would be a prime time and
- 49:34families could watch it, and you know, and they wanted to the animation
- 49:37to be as high quality as they could get it, which you know,
- 49:42Hannah Barbara. They started off doing really high quality stuff like Tom and Jerry,
- 49:47like the old Tom and Jerry that was really like well animated and stuff.
- 49:51And then you know, they kind of like they got into the Flintstones,
- 49:53which kind of had that same thing where you know, it was,
- 49:55yeah, kids could watch it, but there was clearly like adult stuff in
- 50:00there as well, like Fred and Barney smoking cigarettes and will were getting pregnant
- 50:05and you know, Barney and Betty learning that they can't have kids because one
- 50:09of them is Barren or both of them who knows, and they adopt and
- 50:13so it goes on and on and on. Right, So these are the
- 50:15kinds of things they wanted to do. And with Johnny Quest, that was
- 50:16their goal too. They wanted to do something like that. Unfortunately it was
- 50:22it was too expensive and it just it just didn't work out. So they
- 50:27made a few seasons of Johnny Quest and then it died. And I know
- 50:30that like many years later, another company like remade it or whatever, but
- 50:35it's just not like it was. So anyway, Venture Brothers was a parody
- 50:37of that, and of course if you watch it, they were kind of
- 50:40going for the same thing. They wanted it to look pretty good in terms
- 50:44of the quality of the animation, which I think compared to a lot of
- 50:46TV today, it's pretty good. Like like Venture Brothers is great. And
- 50:52they were parodying all this stuff, you know. They Johnny Quest, they
- 50:54parodied the general sort of supervillainy shows. They paid the Fantastic Four, they
- 51:00parried all these other things that were popular in the sixties. So anyway,
- 51:05they did an episode called Dia de los mortosum and in it there is a
- 51:12Scooby Doo parody in it, and the way that they handled this was so
- 51:17ingenious. I'm gonna find the clip here and let me show it to you
- 51:23guys. And I gotta jump ahead to about three minutes and nineteen seconds where
- 51:29they introduce they called them the Groovy Gang, because you know, that's I
- 51:36guess what it had to be. So here's that you're pausing it there,
- 51:39so so, oh my god, I think it's I think it's great.
- 51:46U such a fun episode. I think they watched out a bit. They
- 51:51had the two women runoff. Yeah they did. I think they did.
- 51:54I don't know if will like see well, like I said, I don't
- 51:59know if they come back woman. That's that's one of his defining Yeah.
- 52:06I think there's that's that's true. But there's a whole storyline behind that.
- 52:09Oh is it? Is it? The guy? Is it with the guy?
- 52:14Um? His his commanding officer, his commanding officer. Yeah, like
- 52:17based on Um. He's based on what's his name, the the gonzo journalist.
- 52:24You know I'm talking about Hunter. Yeah, Hunter s Thompson. His
- 52:29name is Hunter. He's based on Hunter stops. That guy's hilarious. He
- 52:35gets, yeah, he gets, he gets a sex change operation, gets
- 52:38boobs to protect himself from Brock. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's
- 52:47that's good. Okay, see that they just transitioning for jokes. No,
- 52:53they didn't watch What's Out. They had to deal with the rocks continuous thing.
- 53:00Okay, So I got a super that is that's all I wanted to
- 53:06show. I did get a super chow from anonymous. Again, if you
- 53:09are UM, if you wanted your name shown, you can just tag me
- 53:15in the live chat and say I'm the person who sent this, but thank
- 53:17you. Anonymous sent to five dollars and says you're right about the psychos thriving
- 53:22in feminism. Like that one politician or celebrity dude that beat the shit out
- 53:27of his girlfriends during sex he identified as a feminist. I think he's Indian,
- 53:31Pakistani or some kind of Arab or Jewish or whatever. Are you talking
- 53:36about the guy from Canada? Um, he didn't beat the women, they
- 53:40wanted him to choke them or something like that. You remember who I'm talking
- 53:45about. I forget his name. We covered that. He's like an actor
- 53:49something at Giangomeshi. Yeah, I don't know if that's who you're talking about,
- 53:53but that's what I'm thinking of. Um, I wouldn't peg Brock as
- 53:59a guy that gets paid or be into that. I think that's an attack
- 54:04on white men's masculinity. Don't think. I don't think would try that ship
- 54:07with black dynamite. It's socially okay to do that ship with white dudes and
- 54:10even Asian men. Well, we'll see. I mean, like I said,
- 54:14I haven't seen the episode yet. I do. I tend to agree
- 54:19that if you're going to do this kind of thing. It's probably safer to
- 54:23do it to a white character than a non white character. But I'd like
- 54:29to see the episode, So thanks for the super Child though, anonymous person.
- 54:35Honestly, I think that part of it was just it was a gender
- 54:37reversal, but they did they didn't do like the feminist gender reversal. They
- 54:44did an actual gender reversal between a block A Brock and Wriana. I think
- 54:51she's like a superheroin and it's uh from what I remember, I did have
- 54:57that like, oh, what are they doing here? But then when I
- 55:00watched it, I'm like, I can't tell. Yeah, sometimes sometimes I
- 55:06can't, so I'd have to leave it up to other people, Like I'm
- 55:07not gonna freak out about whatever Brock wants to do in the bedroom. He's
- 55:13less awesome and h or maybe it's one of those things because again I haven't
- 55:17seen it, but maybe it's one of those things where Brock has had all
- 55:21of the experiences and this is just a new experience. So you know,
- 55:27I really think they were leaning into the sex addict thing. Yeah, Brock
- 55:32has done a lot of questionable shit. Yeah, sexually, it is like
- 55:37yeah, yeah, and I mean like, I'm like, well, if
- 55:40you you know, if you get have fun with that, then you know,
- 55:44like I wouldn't want to live in a world where that is less acceptable.
- 55:49But again it's possible, I'll see. But nonetheless, like even if
- 55:53that is a thing, I think the rest of the show seems fine,
- 55:57but I haven't that Brock doesn't like it, which I think is one of
- 56:00the things that is about the humiliation in aspect. And I think what they
- 56:07were going for was honestly like some kind of gender reversal. But where And
- 56:15this is only vague memory, so I could be completely wrong, but Warriana
- 56:19sort of plays the man you has to uh appeal court um because sometimes they
- 56:30do. And that's the other thing about The Warrior the Venture Brothers. They
- 56:32often do play with gender. Yeah you remember. I don't know if you've
- 56:37seen this episode, but we find out who the mother to the U wait
- 56:45wait, wait, wait wait. There there was an episode where there is
- 56:47a woman who kidnaps the boys and she claims to be the mother, but
- 56:52they don't They don't really like seal the deal on it. Yeah, they
- 56:57don't reveal it for sure. There is some application that she like sexually and
- 57:01physically abused Rusty. Yeah, she gets they're taken away by the police at
- 57:07one point, and he's in like a blanket, yeah, with a like
- 57:10a cup of therapy tea or something. Yeah. And and so there's a
- 57:15strong implication of course Brock is really protective of Rusty against this woman as well,
- 57:21and and against the boys. But so there's and I was watching that,
- 57:25and I'm like, they're doing a gender reversal. I mean, it's
- 57:30not a genuine gender reversal, because men, of course are abused sexually and
- 57:32physically by women, but us in terms of a narrative, in terms of
- 57:37how it's usually presents it, it's usually presented. And I'm like that,
- 57:40that's interesting. So they have done that in the past, which is another
- 57:44reason why I'm wondering about it. But the thing is that when they do
- 57:46it, they do it in such a way that the male characters aren't considered
- 57:52lesser, if that makes any sense. Like, it's not a feminist gender
- 57:54reversal, it's like a genuine one where where they're really looking at the actual
- 58:00differences between men and women and how they're portrayed and and poking fun at it.
- 58:07But that's uh. I mean, I'm just getting off into the weeds
- 58:10because I actually really love Venture Brothers. I do too, I do.
- 58:15I think it is a good show. Um, and I would recommend it,
- 58:20you know, yea to people if you want, if you want to
- 58:22watch it and if you were like grew up on like shows like Johnny Quest.
- 58:27Um, I that's it's definitely worth checking out. That's all I'll say.
- 58:30But yeah, it's a good show and it and it you know again,
- 58:32like he's this guy like Doc Hammer. I think he's like one of
- 58:36the main uh producers and writers and voice actors on the show. I think
- 58:42he does like a lot of the characters. Um, he's like in a
- 58:45goth or. He was in like a goth band. I mean, he's
- 58:49like basically a renaissance man. He's done like a lot of different things.
- 58:53And uh, he is most interested from what it appears, and I've seen
- 58:59an interview with him, he just wants to have fun with the content.
- 59:04And and you know, and you can't have fun with content if you're if
- 59:07you're constantly you feel like you're in a constant battle, you know, with
- 59:13the world. And I think that you know, that's that's probably why this
- 59:17show is so good. I mean so far. You know, like I
- 59:21said, I only got to season four, but I liked it. So
- 59:23we'll see. I will I will finish the show and maybe we'll revisit the
- 59:28topic give you my final thoughts. But if you haven't seen The Venture Brothers,
- 59:32watch it. Um. It's you know, it's been out for what
- 59:37like twenty years now, probably maybe more, um, and it still holds
- 59:42up so and it's it seems like it's just fun. Okay. Anyway,
- 59:49So that's all I wanted to say about that. I guess, uh,
- 59:52Private Pirate eight hundred says, I'll definitely check out the show. Seems like
- 59:57really good satire. Yeah, but like it is, you know, like
- 1:00:00I said, if you're if you like what's being satirized, it will still
- 1:00:06like bring you joy. You know, Doctor Orpheus is like one of my
- 1:00:10favorite characters for example, Like you know, so, um, there's a
- 1:00:15lot of good characters though I like Doctor Orpheus. The Phantom Limb it's good
- 1:00:20too, Um, the Sovereign is there's a big twist reveal on that character.
- 1:00:25So anyway, it's just well done. Um. And I have to
- 1:00:30get other opinions on Warrianna and Brock in their relationship. Yeah, I'll look
- 1:00:37it up. I like, I liked Molotov Cocktis. I thought that was
- 1:00:40a good character too. From what I remember, there was a moment where
- 1:00:45alexis like, that's Warrianna's name, had to had to sort of apologize to
- 1:00:50Brock for being an asshole. Oh well, she is she like a like
- 1:00:55a woman warrior type, like a red Sonia or something. Okay, well,
- 1:01:00she's actually really freaking like if you look at her chrotter, I'll show
- 1:01:06you an image. M hmm. Okay. Somebody said, um, doctor
- 1:01:12Killinger. Yeah, doctor Kilinger is great too. Magic Mouda Bag, Um,
- 1:01:17the magic Mouda Bag. So she's definitely. Oh she's like wonder Woman.
- 1:01:28Somebody says she's like wonder Woman. Yeah, she's definitely um big,
- 1:01:32shall we say, okay, muscular? Yeah, like ridiculously so oh I
- 1:01:38see yeah, oh yeah, that's totally wonder woman. Um all right,
- 1:01:45let me take a look here. I don't know if I'm gonna be able
- 1:01:49to show this, but I will try show it to the audience. There
- 1:01:54goes and you guys can see her. So um yeah, yeah, question
- 1:02:01of the viewer if this is if that whole the way they depicted that relationship
- 1:02:06was woke. So I did remember that she had to apologize to him at
- 1:02:09some point, which is unusual anyway, and that she was also fairly protective
- 1:02:16of him. Yeah, okay, so that's that's this. Oh oh okay,
- 1:02:22well I'll do this. Feel right. Do you have any any I
- 1:02:25don't know if you do, but maybe you have thank yous or something.
- 1:02:30No I can double check, but nobody since uh, no one has put
- 1:02:36anything additional through. I think there's only a couple hours left if you want
- 1:02:38to. Uh. So that's the padre dot com slash. I if you
- 1:02:44want to help me out to make sure I can get this published, to
- 1:02:46get it properly edited, um, because I don't want to just be another
- 1:02:51YouTuber that puts a book out on the market. That's crap. H.
- 1:02:55I think I just threw some shade. Um. I'm not going to specify,
- 1:03:00but it's it's there is there is a small collegy. It's interesting because
- 1:03:06I went on this little rabbit hole right because I was researching the publishing industry
- 1:03:12and I was listening to a woman who had brought on a whole bunch of
- 1:03:16agents who were all I briefly mentioned. One of them was like, a,
- 1:03:21I don't like a book that challenges me in any way because I'm stupid,
- 1:03:24And then the others were all like, oh, diversity, diversity,
- 1:03:28university, and all kinds of contradictory and impossible advice. And it really just
- 1:03:31came across as we all like diversity, and we like what pleases us,
- 1:03:37and you'd have to guess, and and I'm like, so I said,
- 1:03:40okay, so this is interesting. I'm going to look up the writing of
- 1:03:45the YouTuber who because she talked about how she was debuting her novel and I
- 1:03:51looked up, and apparently I fell down this rabbit hole where she was humiliated
- 1:03:54off the internet because she bought like five star reviews because they're writing was terrible.
- 1:04:00And it would be okay if she's just a creative who debuts with something
- 1:04:04that's not great, because a lot of writers start with a really bad first
- 1:04:09novel. But the thing is that she built herself as somebody who critiqued writing,
- 1:04:15right, yeah, and then she ended up not taking her own advice
- 1:04:20essentially, And then I fell down this rabbit hole and I found out there
- 1:04:26are YouTubers out there who've been publishing novels and like reviewing each other's novels,
- 1:04:30giving each other five star reviews, and the novels themselves are shall we say,
- 1:04:34not very good. And I'm like reading all of this stuff about this
- 1:04:40drama and I'm like, oh, this is this is a whole subculture that
- 1:04:43I was not even aware of. It's called book tubers, and that's what
- 1:04:48I'm referencing. So it's it's interesting. But but my point is that I
- 1:04:55don't want to be like that. I want to actually try to do my
- 1:04:59best whatever or that is like I don't know if And you know what,
- 1:05:03one of the things about being a creative is you have this moment where you're
- 1:05:06like, well, these people should have said them themselves, you know,
- 1:05:11I don't think this should be to see the light of day because it's not
- 1:05:15good enough. And at the same time, you're like working on a project
- 1:05:19and you're like, am I in the headspace thinking oh, this is okay
- 1:05:23to show people but it actually isn't. Yeah you know what I mean,
- 1:05:26Yeah you've ever experienced that. I have m but hopefully an editor will help
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- 1:06:14Yes, I did get a supercow. Yes, okay, so we got
- 1:06:18a supercow anonymous five dollars. And they say, how would Warriana fit in
- 1:06:24feminist fiction? I'm too cynical to give it the benefit of the doubt because
- 1:06:27they made Brock a bitch. Yeah, I can't say. I have to
- 1:06:31see the episode. You have to watch it. And the other thing is
- 1:06:34that, yes they did at the same time as they made it that Warrianna
- 1:06:41actually had to apologize to him. So it was this, Like I said,
- 1:06:45it was this playing with gender that they do, which is really interesting.
- 1:06:49And I don't know if it's woke or not. Yeah, as a
- 1:06:55question to the audience, Yeah, I think. I think if if something
- 1:06:58is really woke, it's usually not very subtle. Well, usually that the
- 1:07:02man plays the submissive. But you know, like in a relationship, the
- 1:07:06submissive experience usually is the one that is most that that sort of dominates if
- 1:07:14I know that. Yeah, like this is this is what I've noticed.
- 1:07:17So a dominant person will be dominant, but they will have to judge themselves
- 1:07:25in their actions by their benefit or lack of benefit to the submissive. And
- 1:07:30there was that kind of quality to their relationship that Oriona may have been dominant,
- 1:07:35but at the same time her actions were judged based on Brock's benefit.
- 1:07:41So it's a topic of the bottom which you know, like when I think
- 1:07:45about it, I honestly would think that the people behind Venture Brothers would be
- 1:07:50interested in exploring things like that because because look at what they did with Valerie
- 1:07:56Silenus and Ted Bundy. Yeah, they are looking at really interesting aspects like
- 1:08:02and that's what one of the things that makes the Vendorture Brothers really compelling long
- 1:08:06term is that they do look at interesting aspects of human psychology. Yeah,
- 1:08:14and with it, and you can sort of scratch your head and think about
- 1:08:16it. But anyway, that's my spiel. I don't know. I cannot
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