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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 14) (5/16/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left
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  off with the Gleainne Maxwell deposition. We left off with
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  Glenn Maxwell telling us that everything Virginia said was one
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  thousand percent false. So let's pick up from there. McCauley,
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  So let's not take the first time, let's take the
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  next time she comes. Maxwell? No, No, how can you
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  do that when the basis of this entire horrible story
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  that you have put out is based on this first
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  appalling story that was written, repeated multiplied by the press
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  that lied about her, age, lied about the first time
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  she came, lied about and characterized the entire first time.
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  I've been so absolutely appalled by her story and appalled
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  by the entire characterization of it. And I apologize sincerely
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  for my banging at the table earlier. I hope you
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  accept my apology. It's born out of years of feeling
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  the pressure of this higher lie that she has perpetrated
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  from our first time. And whilst I recognize that was
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  I hope you forgive me sincerely because it was just
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  the length of time that this terrible story has been
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  told and retold and rehashed when I know it to
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  be one hundred percent false, McCauley, So not the first
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  time that she came, but the second time she came,
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  or the third time, or any time she came. Did
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  you ever participate in a massage with her and Jeffrey
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  Epstein in Jeffrey Epstein's room, Maxwell, I have never participated
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  at any time with Virginia in a massage with Jeffrey.
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  Have you ever participated at any time with Virginia in
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  any kind of sexual contact or sexual touching with Jeffrey
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  and Virginia Maxwell, I have not, McCauley. So we're going
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  through the list of obvious lies, and you were talking
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  about the first time, which I believe we have completed.
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  But you can add to that if you need to.
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  What other obvious lies did Virginia Roberts tell that you
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  were referring to in your statements. Maxwell, Oh, my goodness, Well,
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  I think we can totally cover the redacted story, the
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  story that I flew him with redacted and there was
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  a dinner with one hundred people, and that entire thing
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  is one hundred percent fictitious. I have testified for the record,
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  and I'm happy to do it again that I have
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  never flown redacted and redacted myself as a pilot in
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  a helicopter at any time, any place, at any time,
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  to any part of the world. McAuley, What other obvious
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  lies were you referring to Maxwell? She was referring to redacted.
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  She is referring to a bunch of people. I don't
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  believe redacted ever came to the island at any time.
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  I don't even know redacted, actually, McCauley, just one moment,
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  I want to hear all of them. But when you
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  say you don't believe redacted ever came to the island,
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  do you know whether redacted ever came to the island? Maxwell,
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  rected never came to the island. McCauley, how do you
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  know that Maxwell? Jeffrey doesn't know him. I don't know him,
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  and I think had redacted, I don't think had redacted
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  gone to the island during the period when I would
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  have been involved in organizing a trip, I would have
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  been aware of it. McCauley. So go ahead, you had
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  another one, Maxwell, It would be easier if I could see.
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  Do you mind if I take a reference at some
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  of these newspaper articles or you just want me to
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  go from memory her entire characterization of what took place
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  in London at my house with redacted McCauley. Was it
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  an obvious lie that she was at your house in London? Maxwell,
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  We can't really establish the photograph and all of that.
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  I don't know if that's true, if that's a real
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  picture or not. McCauley. So you dispute that you were
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  actually photographed in your town home in London, Maxwell, I
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  don't recognize that picture. I'm not sure if that's a
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  real picture or not. McCauley. And you have talked to
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  or redacted about the picture. Maxwell. We discussed Virginia's entire tale,
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  and he asked me if he even knewer McCauley. So,
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  did redacted tell you that he did not have sex
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  with Virginia Roberts? Maxwell? He doesn't even know who Virginia
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  Roberts is. So they're talking about Prince Andrew here, McCauley.
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  Did he ever tell you that he didn't have sex
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  with her? Maxwell? It would be difficult to have sex
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  with someone you don't know, McCauley. He may not remember, Maxwell.
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  I think the inference is he didn't know who she
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  was he didn't have any recollection of her whatsoever. McCauley
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  has redacted. Ever come to your London town home? Maxwell? Yes, ever,
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  being the entire time I own my house. Yes? Can
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  I go on with her obvious lies? McCauley, if you
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  have more, Maxwell, I have for her entire characterization. I
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  took her shopping into Burbery and bought her a very
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  expensive dress. And if this photo were real, and if
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  this is, I would never The outfit doesn't work at all.
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  So McCauley, do you not remember taking her shopping or
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  are you saying it's an obvious lie? You know you
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  did not take her shopping Maxwell, I did not take
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  her shopping. I did not buy her a five thousand
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  dollars handbag, McCauley. Did Jeffrey buyer of a five thousand
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  dollars handbag? Maxwell? Her accusation was that I did. McCauley,
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  do you know if Jeffrey bought her a handbag during
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  that trip to London? Maxwell? I don't know what he did,
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  She accused me. I can't physically remember buying a five
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  thousand dollars first for her, not for anyone, not for me. McCauley,
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  did you ever go shopping with Virginia. Maxwell, I don't
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  recall ever going shopping with Virginia. McCauley, did you have
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  more to go over or did you want me to
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  ask my questions? Maxwell? The entire characterization of what took
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  place in my house in London would have been impossible. McCauley,
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  Can I ask do you still have it the picture
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  of the London town home with you in it? Roberts
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  zero zero four zero seven? As you were looking at
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  this picture, Miss Maxwell, as I'm looking at it, it's
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  on the right hand side, there appears to be a
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  picture hanging on the wall. Do you recall that in
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  your London town home? Maxwell, It's a little difficult to see. McCauley.
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  Do you recall having a picture on the wall there
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  by the room where you're standing Maxwell? I do have
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  a picture, McCauley. Do you recall on the left hand
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  side having a railing that looks like that with sort
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  of a bubblewood top. Maxwell? I do, McCauley. So are
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  you saying that it's an obvious lie, that Virginia's statement
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  that she had sex with redacted is an obvious lie? Maxwell?
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  What I'm representing is that her entire ludicrous an absurd
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  story of what took place in my house is an
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  obvious lie, McCauley, including that she had sex with redacted Maxwell.
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  She claimed things that took place in my bathroom in London.
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  Her characterization is just not possible, McCauley. So you're saying
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  it's an obvious lie that she was telling an obvious
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  lie when she said that she had sex with redacted
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  Mister Pagliuke objection to the form and the foundation. The
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  witness already answered the question. Maxwell. I'm saying, within the
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  context of all the stories she told, this particular story backup,
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  she claimed went out at night redacted, redacted, redacted. She
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  characterized that redacted, redacted, and redacted. She then characterized things
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  that took place in my bathroom in the bathtub itself,
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  the tub is too small for any type of activity whatsoever. No,
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  it's not. That's just an absolute lie. Another lie that
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  Glenn Maxwell pitched to us. McCauley redacted Maxwell's answers redacted.
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  Then McCauley, that would be redacted Maxwell. Yes, McCauley, are
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  you saying that it was an obvious lie when Virginia
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  said that you made her a dress up in a
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  gooolgirl outfit. Mister Pakluka, objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I already testified that. First of all, I don't know
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  what you were talking about. I already testified that I
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  didn't get her outfits and all of that. McCauley is
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  an obvious lie that Virginia was paid to give a
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  massage to redacted. Mister Pagliuca objection to the Form and
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  the Foundation. Maxwell, I cannot testify to what Virginia did
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  outside of I can't testify to what she did who
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  she gave massages to. McCauley, So you don't know on
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  that one, Maxwell, of course I don't know. McCauley, do
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  you agree that it's psychologically harmful to have sex with
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  a minor? Mister Pakliuka, objection to Form and Foundation. Maxwell,
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  what are you asking me, McCauley, I'm asking if it's
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  psychologically harmful for an adult to have sex with a minor.
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  Mister Pagliuca, objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I don't know what you were asking. This has nothing
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  to do with Virginia Roberts. McCauley, it does, Maxwell, how
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  does it McCauley, I asked the questions. You answer. If
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  you can't answer, you can say I don't know. But
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  my question is, do you agree that it's psychologically harmful
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  to have sex with a minor? Mister Pagliuca objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell, are you giving me
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  a random question and as not related to this case
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  and not related to anything. It's obviously not something that
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  you want to have happen. McCauley, do you agree that
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  Jeffrey Epstein has harmed many minors by having sex with them?
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  Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I can't testify to what Jeffrey did or didn't do.
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  I have no knowledge of what you were asking me. McCauley.
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  If Jeffrey had sex with minors, would you agree that
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  that could harm a minor? Mister Pagliuca object to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell again, I'm not testifying to
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  what Jeffrey did or what Jeffrey did not do, because
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  I cannot McCauley, you don't know whether Jeffrey Epstein had
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  sex with a minor. Maxwell again, I cannot testify to
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  what Jeffrey did or didn't do. I cannot. McCauley. You
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  never observed him having sex with a minor. Maxwell, I
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  never observe Jeffrey having sex with a minor. McCauley, do
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  you agree that calling a sex abuse victim a liar
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  when she speaks about her abuse can cause psychological harm?
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  Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  Can you repeat the question, McCauley, do you agree calling
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  a sex abuse victim when she speaks about her abuse
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  can cause psychological harm? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form
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  and the foundation. Maxwell, say it again, McCauley, do you
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  agree that calling a sexual abuse victim a liar can
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  shaus psychological harm? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and
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  the foundation. Maxwell. I would like to say all the
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  terrible things Virginia Roberts said about me is extremely harmful,
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  and you should turn that around. All the lies that
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  she has said and you have backed her on, have
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  been extremely damaging to me. So what I can testify
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  to is that somebody who has made these outrageous allegations
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  and who is a serious liar, and that I know
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  for a fact is a liar, that I can testify
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  is damaging to me. McCauley. Do you agree that calling
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  a sexual abuse victim a liar when she speaks out
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  about her abuse can cause psychological harm? Mister Pagliuca, Are
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  you asking I hypothetical question McCauley, Yes, Maxwell, Are you
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  asking me to speculate? McCauley, I'm not asking you to
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  speculate if somebody is a sexual abuse victim. Maxwell, I
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  can't testify to what some random hypothetical person that you
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  are asking me to speculate on their mental state or
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  health versus speculation. I can't do that. That's just not right. McAuley.
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  Do you agree that by calling Virginia Roberts a liar
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  when she was subject to sexual abuse by Jeffrey Epstein
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  that can cause psychological harm? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the
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  form and the foundation assumes facts not in the evidence. Maxwell,
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  I can only tell you what I know of Virginia's lies.
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  She lied repeatedly often, and I know for a fact
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  she is a liar. So I can only testify to
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  what I know and the fact that she has lied
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  about me from the beginning to the end and repeatedly
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  cause me to question, anything that she may feel. All Right, folks,
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  we're gonna wrap up this episode here and in the
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  next episode on topic, we'll pick up where we left off.
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