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Naked and Betrayed: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain Jobson Dave's episode of Reality
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  Speaker 1: with the King.
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  Speaker 2: This episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County gave
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  Speaker 2: me all the fields, good, bad, and different. I'm confused,
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  Speaker 2: I'm lost.
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  Speaker 1: I'm dazed, but I'm not naked, and I'm here with
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  Speaker 1: my girl, Alexis Ballino.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, how are you gorgeous? I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is the first time I've ever podcasted
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  Speaker 3: with you when you didn't have glasses on.
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  Speaker 4: Jackson, you know.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's my buddy.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that you and the ray
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  Speaker 1: jobs who are watching this on YouTube get to see
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  Speaker 1: my eyes because.
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  Speaker 2: These are the I don't have a live detective.
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  Speaker 1: Test, hey, Emily, but what I do have are my
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  Speaker 1: eyes to tell you my truth serum perfect.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now I know what.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so let's just get right into this crazy ass episode.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Alexis. We have to talk about the scene
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  Speaker 1: that pretty much popened up the episode, which is the
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  Speaker 1: eighth housewife who finally made her debut on the Real
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  Speaker 1: house Watch Sports County after being mentioned in every single
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  Speaker 1: episode since episode one. Gretchen and Gina sent her down
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  Speaker 1: and immediately they.
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  Speaker 2: Talked to her about what Katie has alleged since the
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  Speaker 2: start of the season, which is the fact that.
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  Speaker 1: Katie allegedly told Keiki Monique thinks about Gretchen things that
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  Speaker 1: we found out on this episode about Gina that we
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  Speaker 1: have to get into. But first that Gretchen did tell
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  Speaker 1: Keiki Monique that after naked Wasted seventeen eighteen years ago,
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  Speaker 1: that she went to the hospital and Kikimo Nique said,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what she was told. Are you surprised that
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  Speaker 1: Katie has been found out to be a liar once
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  Speaker 1: again and again and again and again.
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  Speaker 3: Well no, because I mean, obviously I didn't realize the
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  Speaker 3: extent of her life until I was light about myself
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  Speaker 3: and she's still carrying that story on.
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  Speaker 1: But does she Alexis is, so after you debunked it
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  Speaker 1: on this show, has she made a statement.
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  Speaker 4: On this on this episode?
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  Speaker 5: She did.
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  Speaker 3: She took the light of test on this episode about
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  Speaker 3: it and said, you know, the person the examiner asked,
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  Speaker 3: did you share your memo with Alexis?
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  Speaker 4: And maybe she said no because she didn't send it
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's how she got out, or no, she did
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  Speaker 3: lie about it. It was found to be a lie. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm wondering Katie's mind if she thinks
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  Speaker 3: it's because she didn't send it to me, but she
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  Speaker 3: did share it with me at the restaurant, So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know either way we.
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  Speaker 4: Got anyway we talk about it. It's like Katie keeps.
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  Speaker 3: Getting caught, and I just wonder if she, after she
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  Speaker 3: watches all these episodes, if she just finally goes, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I need to do something about this, you know, episode
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  Speaker 3: eight now, and she's still sticking to it and still
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  Speaker 3: you know, I do think that the one lie that
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  Speaker 3: I don't think is a lie is I do think
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen told her at dinner that night. I do think
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen had a story and told Slade and with Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Jen and Slade and.
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  Speaker 4: Slade and Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that Katie. That did tell Katie that she was
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  Speaker 3: really sick and.
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  Speaker 4: Thought she got roofed. I do think that happened. What
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  Speaker 4: do you think?
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  Speaker 1: So you okay, so rain jobs. You know how we
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  Speaker 1: recap episodes. We're not going to go see by thing
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  Speaker 1: because who gives a ship. Let's just have an overall conversation.
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  Speaker 2: About this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Right last week, you and I converse and I said, look,
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  Speaker 1: I love Gretchen my gut and base from what I'm watching,
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  Speaker 1: I do believe Gretchen told Katie this information.
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  Speaker 2: I said that last week.
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  Speaker 1: I even said two weeks before that, remember Alexis when
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  Speaker 1: ca Aady rushed in the room giving you oscar worthy performance,
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  Speaker 1: right that, I believe that Slade called Matt and Si
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  Speaker 1: let's get our story together. And that's why Katie pretended
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  Speaker 1: when she walked into the hotel room, welcome by Jen
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  Speaker 1: and Gretchen. Oh my gosh, So what happened as if
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  Speaker 1: she was here for the first time, only to find
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  Speaker 1: out that yet they had a conversation on camera. So
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  Speaker 1: I saw that to say, as I'm watching the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the episode, I'm like, okay, Kekim on Nika saying
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  Speaker 1: Katie did tell me this, and I'm like, I still
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  Speaker 1: believe Gretchen told Katie this, But then the line Detective
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  Speaker 1: Tess happened, and if interestings, I'm gonna be very honest,
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  Speaker 1: and I love all the girls, but I gotta be
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  Speaker 1: honest everybody who's calling a lie.
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  Speaker 2: I was not surprised. So with that being said, when
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  Speaker 2: Gretchen passed the like.
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  Speaker 1: Colors, I'm like, now I'm really confused, because I believe
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  Speaker 1: everyone who got caught to lie fled a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that Gretchen path of blind colors, I'm like, alexis,
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  Speaker 2: what do you do?
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  Speaker 4: What do?
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  Speaker 2: What do we make of this? I'm confused here.
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  Speaker 4: There's two things to this. First, First of all, I'm
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  Speaker 4: a Dateline kind of sewer.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, like I don't want it now because I don't
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  Speaker 3: have time, but especially over COVID, Oh honey, I went
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  Speaker 3: through every single one of those, probably four times each.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, there is a known.
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  Speaker 3: Fact on Dateline, and I'm not a detective, but they
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  Speaker 3: do say that a sociopath is the only person that
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  Speaker 3: can pass with flying colors of any of any light
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  Speaker 3: detector test. Okay, because even the most honest person still
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  Speaker 3: flubs up and their heart races the little or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Only those of your paths. So take that information with
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  Speaker 4: what you want, and thank you Dateline for you know,
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  Speaker 4: informing us and educating.
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  Speaker 3: The second part is the lie detector. People ask the
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  Speaker 3: wrong question. They should have asked, Gretchen, did you lie
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  Speaker 3: follow me?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Did you lie in the back of the car about
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  Speaker 3: going to the hospital when you.
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  Speaker 4: Were with Shannon and Tamra.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they should have asked her, because then she
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  Speaker 3: would have caught caught lying because she lied in the
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  Speaker 3: back of the car. But she would have said no
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  Speaker 3: or something that she would have been caught in a lie,
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  Speaker 3: or she could have said even if she said yes,
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  Speaker 3: did she still get caught gets caught as the liar
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  Speaker 3: because you lied in the back of the car. So
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  Speaker 3: in the other part, why didn't Gretchen or why didn't
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  Speaker 3: Tamra or Shannon call Gretchen out at that moment, because
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  Speaker 3: here's the deal, they were sitting there when Gretchen said,
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  Speaker 3: in the back of the car, I did go.
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  Speaker 4: I felt really I was really sick.
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  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they have just said, right in front of everybody,
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  Speaker 3: with the light detector woman there too. Well, we heard
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  Speaker 3: you say it in the back of the car, so
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  Speaker 3: you were lying then, you know, so the other way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just confused by that.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to say this, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. And then I thought one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know producing these shows, reality shows and alexas, I
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  Speaker 1: would love to get your POV.
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  Speaker 2: Because you're very honest. You've always been honest.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, at that moment, if they remembered that conversation
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  Speaker 1: the back of the car, because obviously you shoot so
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  Speaker 1: many scenes that I did. I did wanted to, like,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if they remember, because my thing is this,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's call it spade a fade. Shannon and camera
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  Speaker 1: are not there to protect wretching. So I believe my
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  Speaker 1: gut is telling me that the reason why they didn't
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  Speaker 1: bring it up is because at that time, with everything
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  Speaker 1: going on, they probably didn't remember. Because let's be clear,
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  Speaker 1: and this is me talking as a producer, they had
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  Speaker 1: to flash back to it to remind us because listen,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's just me, but elected maybe you remember. I
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  Speaker 1: forgot she said that in the backseat of the car.
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  Speaker 1: Until they flashed back to it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't because it was I remembered that she was
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  Speaker 3: lying about She kept lying about it by saying I
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  Speaker 3: didn't say I did, I didn't do any but then
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  Speaker 3: it was so it was such an impactful moment. But
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  Speaker 3: also maybe Tam and Shannon didn't remember that happening either
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  Speaker 3: until you know, then they filmed that scene with the
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  Speaker 3: light detector test, and then all of this is aired
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  Speaker 3: and then they're like, oh, she did lie to us,
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  Speaker 3: because especially after you've had a cocktailer two and you're
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  Speaker 3: filming and you're exhausted in the back of the car
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  Speaker 3: when y all are headed home, you don't remember every
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  Speaker 3: single little thing. And it probably wasn't like some some
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  Speaker 3: you know, major thing that Shannon and tamor were like, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good moment we got we caught her because
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  Speaker 3: they didn't really know how the whole season was going
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  Speaker 3: to unfold. So maybe you're right about that when you
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  Speaker 3: put on the producer's hat, maybe you're right about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Because what I want the audience to understand is this,
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  Speaker 1: when you watch their confessionals, those are taped weeks and
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  Speaker 1: months after it airs, and oftentimes rain drops when you
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  Speaker 1: watch the confessionals is because the producers already edited the
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  Speaker 1: episode and they're asking questions based on the scenes that
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  Speaker 1: made it. These housewives and reality stars film a ton
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  Speaker 1: of scenes and sometimes you don't see them, so so
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  Speaker 1: when the producer decide all this scene would make it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, we actually found a moment where she did
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  Speaker 2: say it.
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  Speaker 1: Then they asked the housewife, for example, Tam or Sanat,
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  Speaker 1: don't you remember when Gretchen said this to you?
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  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, oh my god, she did, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I do believe that's what happened based on my
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  Speaker 1: knowledge being a producer. But you are right in the
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  Speaker 1: sense of look the lie detective test. Folks did not
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  Speaker 1: ask the right question because I never thought about it
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  Speaker 1: that way, which is why I was confused, because on
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  Speaker 1: one hand, I'm like, I believe Gretchen told Katie this,
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  Speaker 1: but it leads me to this. I love me some Jen.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jen is a good girl. I think she's great,
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  Speaker 1: I think she's funny. Is Jen capable of choosing Gretchen's
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  Speaker 1: side over Katie because she wants to be friends with
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen and does she think aligning with Gretchen protects her
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  Speaker 1: position on the show?
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  Speaker 2: What did you make of it?
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  Speaker 1: Because if we're saying that Gretchen did say it, why
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  Speaker 1: is Jen also lying for Gretchen when she met Katie
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  Speaker 1: before Gretchen.
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good question.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what this show does do to
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  Speaker 3: most of the women that film these shows is you
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  Speaker 3: do get kind of caught up in it and forming
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  Speaker 3: the proper alliance and am I making the right decision?
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  Speaker 3: And the conversations you have off camera with some of
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  Speaker 3: these women can sway you and can have you jump
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  Speaker 3: ship or go to it in a different direction, or
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  Speaker 3: even just you know, maybe Jen's actually believing some more of.
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  Speaker 4: What I mean. Here's the deal.
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  Speaker 3: We all know, get Gretchen and Katie are both liars.
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  Speaker 3: We know it, even though forget the light detector test,
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  Speaker 3: it's clear as day when you watch the footage they're
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  Speaker 3: both liars. So I think Jen might be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I love them both, because you do still
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  Speaker 3: love them even when you're you know, filming with them,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, you don't wish ill on any of
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  Speaker 3: these women.
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  Speaker 4: We're trying to do a job.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that Jin is probably getting a lot
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  Speaker 3: of you know, noise from Gretchen and behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: and probably has now noticed some of the lies Katie
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  Speaker 3: said to be pretty evident and true. So maybe she's
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  Speaker 3: just kind of confused and like, I don't really know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm doing. But Gretchen's kind of new now and
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have as much of a track record as lying
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  Speaker 3: as Katie has. Katie's lied now for two straight seasons,
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  Speaker 3: so maybe that's where Jin's thinking.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. But my thing is, when I have
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  Speaker 4: a friend, I'm so loyal that.
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  Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't even be able to I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: able to sit there and cover for someone even if
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  Speaker 3: they're lying. I don't care how loyal I am are.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the truth comes over loyalty, Yeah, because it
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  Speaker 3: always gets found out in the long run. And just wait, Carlos,
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  Speaker 3: I told you this was going to be good, and
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  Speaker 3: I told you I didn't think at the end of
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  Speaker 3: Kiki Monique was three episodes ago. I'm like, this Kiki
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  Speaker 3: Moniq thing's going to go somewhere, and now she probably
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  Speaker 3: did sign to be the eighth housewife.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is reality with the King, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. I would love it
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  Speaker 2: for Kikibo Be. I like Kikibo Bee.
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  Speaker 1: You did call it from day one, and you even
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  Speaker 1: called the last week.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, this long detective test shit is so cliche.
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  Speaker 2: But you said it would be entertaining and looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to it, and I must admit it was entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: So getting back to kikim Monique, she also pointed at
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  Speaker 1: Gina and said, Katie also told me you made a
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  Speaker 1: comment about Asian designers, and from what she told me,
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  Speaker 1: it made.
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  Speaker 2: It seem like you're being racist.
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  Speaker 1: In that moment, I was like, that is so specific
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  Speaker 1: that there's no way in hell ki kim Monique made
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  Speaker 1: that up.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to question the validity of the naked
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  Speaker 2: waisted because we as viewers saw that shit seventeen years ago. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I can understand it, right.
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  Speaker 1: That is so specific, to the point that once again
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  Speaker 1: rain Drops listened up to a producer. That's why the
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  Speaker 1: editors had to flash not even flashback could have never
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  Speaker 1: seen it. Had to scrub the footage and find the
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  Speaker 1: moment of Gina making that comment. I have to watch
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  Speaker 1: that moment a couple of times because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that I was reacting to it, not just
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  Speaker 1: in the moment, but having it sit with me based
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  Speaker 1: on what Gina asked, I as a black person, right,
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  Speaker 1: And when I say that, I'm not Katie, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that my me being a black person personal
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  Speaker 1: color over ri saw Katie fell.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I, as a black person a
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  Speaker 1: personal color, heard what Gina said. I didn't take that
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  Speaker 1: as Gina being racist. I took that as Gina stating that, look,
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  Speaker 1: you told me you were wearing Asian designers Bowse on
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  Speaker 1: Beverley Hills Housewives said, And I think she succeeded in
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  Speaker 1: this based on my knowledge that she was going to
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  Speaker 1: wear African American African American designers throughout the entire.
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  Speaker 2: Season of Beverly Hills. So I know that that's a.
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  Speaker 1: Thing based on that. I don't think Gina said that
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  Speaker 1: to be racist. I think I think Gina said that
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  Speaker 1: because she was asking about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then when Katie was called.
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  Speaker 1: Doing the live protective test aftermath, not the questions, but
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  Speaker 1: the aftermath, she said, well, it hurt my feelings. And
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  Speaker 1: guess what, I can understand that, but say that, and
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  Speaker 1: why is that something? Why is that something you tell
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  Speaker 1: radio hosts and not something you would say to Gina
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  Speaker 1: like hey, I didn't like that, or tell a producer
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  Speaker 1: this is how I felt.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. That's why Katie's losing me.
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  Speaker 1: But what did you think about that whole thing too,
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  Speaker 1: with what Katie said kicking money?
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, first of all, yeah, it's like it's like,
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  Speaker 3: here's the thing, why is why is Katie saying so
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  Speaker 3: much juicy stuff? It's like, is she does she think
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  Speaker 3: that these bloggers are going to be her best friends
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  Speaker 3: or any of these journalists are going to become her
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  Speaker 3: best friends because she's got gossip. It really backfired on her.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what she intended and was hoping for,
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  Speaker 3: but it backfired on her. And I think she got
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  Speaker 3: caught up in the whole you know, media of everything
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  Speaker 3: and a little bit of the fame and all of that.
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  Speaker 4: I think she got caught up in that. But here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing.
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  Speaker 3: If you say I'm wearing an American designer, I'm wearing
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  Speaker 3: an African designer, I'm wearing an Asian designer.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe that's racist at all.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I would be proud that I'm wearing
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  Speaker 3: an African designer, I would be proud about, you know
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  Speaker 3: what it is and and mention it. It's not racist
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  Speaker 3: to say that in my opinion, so I agree with
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  Speaker 3: you on that. But I think Katie is looking for
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  Speaker 3: anything right now to get some sympathy from the girls
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  Speaker 3: or just to you know, just to kind of relate
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  Speaker 3: to the girls some and be like, look, you guys
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  Speaker 3: can hurt.
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  Speaker 4: My feelings too. You know. I know I've hurt your
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  Speaker 4: OL's feelings and you don't let you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't trust me with the bloggers and all this, but
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  Speaker 3: that did hurt my feelings, and I think that backfired
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  Speaker 3: on her because I think I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't read any of the comments on social media
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: or anything now, but I wonder what is being said
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: out there, like is everyone agreeing with us on that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: or do they feel like girl listen?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't care too either, because at the end
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of the day, Katie can do no wrong in the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: eyes of people social media, and that's why I don't
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: give a shit about what they say.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Listen. I don't know. I didn't look at it, but
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit anyway.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of people, which is it's fine, have
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: your favorites.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. There's a strong group of
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: people on.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Twitter who love Katie and believe Katie until the end
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And that's okay. I'm saying.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: That's why I had to say how I felt in
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the moment and why I watched that moment a couple
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of times. I wanted to hear Gina again. I wanted
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to understand it. I did not get that from it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: But what I will say once again, I do believe
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that perhaps Katie in the moment may have had her
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: feelings hurt, felt that way whatever. Okay, However, I'm saying
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it that way as a person who
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: watched the show too. And on top of that, one
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: thing I will say is this, I have a hit podcast.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you Alexa for joining it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But I say that to say I even get people
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: dming me stop. They don't say to me, so hear
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: me out Alexi's gagag. I had Theology stars send me stuff.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Do they say, oh, you.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Can't stop there. You got to give us give us
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: some feedback here?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: No?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm not gonna say no. But you know
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying it happens.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: So for example, like what my mind going everywhere? I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: have no idea what Just give me a generic one
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: of the.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Generics and don't tell who it is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, I had somebody, Okay.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: The last one I receee was from a reality star
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: who sent me a post that was in her favor
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: based on someone talking badly about her arch nemesis and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: whether or not she felt that this validated her.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Now, she did not say talk about it. She did not.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Say, please talk about on your podcast.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But she sent it to me and I looked at
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: it and I just that was in it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: My point is, I know she said that to me
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: for me to talk about it, and I didn't, right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't because I like to cite my source there
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that's on my podcast.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I never say, well I was told.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: By Birdie no, because I think I think it gets
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in the weeds of just like mess. And my point
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: is saying all of this is I one hundred and
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fifty percent believe that Katie met with keikim O Nique
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and told her these things so that she could talk
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: No one could tell me differently.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And the reason why Nobah could tell me differently, is
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: because they do it to me. I have enough sense
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: not to say the shit because I'm not a dummy,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and I know when I'm being set up.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Well, good point, And I think that's smart of you,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: because he says, she say is half the time fifty
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: percent of the time not true anyway, Sometimes it's true,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: but it's not all the time true, and it's it's
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: like the game of telephone and rumors and all of that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: So you get into that water, which I think you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: smart because you are credible. You do stick to sources
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: that you can go back and show the evidence or
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: have the backup for it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: So but I agree with you, I think Katie one
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: hundred percent.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think, like I said, she
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: got caught up in a little bit like, oh my gosh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: these people actually want to talk to me because I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of fame now and they're actually
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: interested in what I have to say, and so she
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: wanted to have some juice or some gossip for her.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: But I also, I think you're right. I never thought
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: about it that way, but I think you're right. She
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: probably was hoping it would get brought up and unfortunately
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: because some of it was lies and not true.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It backfired on Katie.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, you know, it's it didn't work
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: in her favor at all.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, no at all.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Twitter likes it, but you know, and it is not
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: a believing that Katie was lying and all of that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: But we'll just have to see. I mean there's more.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: There's a lot more show to be shown.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot more to be shown. So okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: so one of the let me tell your tothing. First
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if the producer was that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Emily who rubbed the questions for the Lie Detective Test
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: people to ask these women. I want to say this,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: My favorite moment of the Life Detective Test was the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: fact that they asked heathern de bro if she wants
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to be a real housewalk for Belly Hills. I thought
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that shit was so funny. Alexis like, who came up
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: with that? The fact that she Heather, I know you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: think I hate you. I don't hate anybody. I'm just
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't kiss your ass, but I love you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I think you're a great house life, but I'm not
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: kissing your ass like the others do. One thing I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: will say, though, is a blind man can see that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: heathern de Bro wants to be on.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: The real housebo to Billy Hills.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Guess one, alexis I if I had a choice of
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: all the housewives, I would be on Beverley Hill all
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it because I like the lifestyle.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I like the accent. I would love to go to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a Kathy Hills a Christmas party.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I actually loved that lifestyle, that is Heaven's lifestyle. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the fact that she was like I only said yes
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: because of the distance.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Heather.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I can't stand you the way I want to,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: because I wish you would have saient if all of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: us had a fucking choice in this room, we all
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: would choose that show.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Get out of right much should have just owned it
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Like this, I'm going to.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Ask you directly, would you prefer to be a housewife
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of Orange County or a housewife of Beverly Hills.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Probably neither at the more. But here's I mean.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I love my life so much here and I am
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: more of like a homebody. I think for myself personally,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: the lifestyle of Beverly Hills in LA and all that
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: is too much for me. I know, it's great and gland,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: grandiose and glamour and all that. I feel like I
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: have enough of that right here in my little OC bubble.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a Missouri girl, so maybe that's some
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: of my farm girl roots coming out in me.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: But I yeah, I'm I'm pretty content here.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But I can see where ninety nine percent of women
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: would want to be in that. But it is, it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: a faster pace, it's too much. It's just it's over
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the top.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I love like you.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I mean we see each other at Calthy Hilton's party.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I love being a part of it here and there,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: you know. But but to actually live it every day,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I mean it's perfect for Heather.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: She's already living, like she said, she's there, she.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Lives there, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And I like the fact that she has this viber
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: who takes her ninety minutes, which with the Heather, I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: will give you that, the commitment of a ninety minute
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: commute from Beverly Hills to OC is nothing to sneeze that, sister.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So but I will say, your.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Day so long, it makes it sense so long. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: do it for longer than normal, just for the traffic.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, So I appreciate her commitment to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: OC and listen, this is my opinion. I think Heaven
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the Bro is a great reality star. I don't see
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: her on Beverly Hills with those women. I think she's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: perfect for OC. I think I think Heather is perfect
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for this show. And Heather, I don't want you to leave. Okay,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: my sister. Now, I think she's great. Ol see I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: believe do Okay.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: So with that being said, Gina was asked.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: If she is using her ARE for her real estate connections.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: She said no, she passed that test. Were you surprised
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: by that, Alexis no, because.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think Gina was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I think that was I was sitting at that lunch
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: when that came out. That was when we were in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: where were we going that time? I think it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: so Noma Orce.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I don't remember. It was last year when we were filming.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I was at that lunch and when that got called out,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I was just like, that's so not true.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't believe it at all for that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But but it could be too true. It could be possible,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: you know. But I'm glad that Heather also said, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have believed it. Even if you would have failed,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have believed it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So that's good.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Gina was using anyone for connections.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And she's doing you know, she's kicking butt on her own.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: She's doing a great job.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think Listen, I love Gina so much because
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I think Gina is who she is off camera on camp.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think Gina is just who she is. I also
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: don't believe she's using Heather for connection. I think Gina
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: is doing.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: A great job.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And she also had a speaking engagement last week that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: she posted, and she has so much confidence on stage.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So I think Gina's confidence on.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Stage in front of a million of people indicates that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: she has enough confidence to secure her own deals. Now,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: one thing that shocked me and I felt like, unfortunately,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: they did not spend enough time on this. Jen was
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: asked if she was worried about marrying Ryan.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Oh go go girls react though. The girls were like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: they couldn't believe that she failed that one.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: She failed it and she looks shocked. The girls were gagging.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I was gagging. A let says, were you gagging too?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I was not because here's why I've heard. I've heard
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: through the grape vine that it is is pretty like
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what's true or not.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: So I am giving, he says, she say stuff right now.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: But I do live in OC so there's always chatter
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: in my ear and everyone stops me all the you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: and I don't know. So I do hear some things,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and I did hear that it is they're they're putting
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a pause or or taking a step back from all
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: of that, and so we'll see, we'll see how it
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: airs or you know, what comes out. But yeah, so
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I wasn't that shocked when she got caught. I think
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I think when she said in her confessional, she goes
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: how she say it, she goes, I don't want to
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: go back through another divorce like I did before.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I can see.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: How that would be in the back of your mind
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: when you're doing a liight detector test. So I can't
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: understand how she would fail that And still mean, no,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I do want to marry him, but just to have
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that because even me, I mean, this is my third marriage,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: like like you know, I say too, because my first
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: one didn't count. I was so young and we were
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: married for a year, and you know, I never should
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: have I never should have said yes anyway, however, so
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: that I feel like I could.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Have got that in all that's a wash.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: But now it's my second real marriort, like big time marriage,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm I feel scared sometimes too.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: You don't want to go through another divorce.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So I get where she could fail that because on
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: the light detector tests. Keep in mind, Carlos, like they said,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: it's it's your it's your pulse, your sweat, amount, your heartbreaking,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: all these things, so you a lot of emotions can
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: get into it. That's why I do think that light
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: detector tests aren't necessarily good, you know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people can fail them
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: or pass them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when they're pass them, even when they're not telling
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: the truth.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, and listen, I want to go and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: right there saying this, there's not enough money in the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: world to get me to take a lot of tic
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to test. Only because of alex Is, only because of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: those reasons, not because I'm trying to hide something. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think it's because I think nothing is one hundred percent
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: full truth of error. So if it's listed, I create
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: my own high blood pressure at times when I'm nervous
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: about something, do you know what I mean? Like, because
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: your mind controls that, your your palls, your blood pressure
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and all those things. So's a not the fact that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I'm lying the fact that I'm a nervous nelly as
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a human being. So everything makes me nervous. My heart's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: beating right now, like and I'm comfortable around you. It's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: just it's just crazy because I wouldn't have done it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So I'll give all the growth posts for saying yes to.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: This year, and it's still kind of fun to do it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Like on marriage boot Camp when I did it, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: was nervous as heck. I was shaking, and I'm like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pass anything, just because I was.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: When they're putting you in all those words.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And they talk so seriously, it's all so dead, just
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: monotone and du and it just makes you feel like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'm in trouble when I didn't do anything.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: But let me ask you this about jen see, because
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I know some of what I think is about to unfold,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: or just from being living here and knowing certain people
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: that know.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Her, et cetera.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I think the viewers were shocked to hear that because
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I think things are about to unfold later. I think
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and I could totally put my foot
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: in my mouth and be wrong about that, but you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you haven't heard about.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Him getting married yet.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: So that's one thing, because if they would have got married,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: even on the show, we'd still know they're married, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it was going to be shown on the show, right
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: So but I think so you were shocked because it's
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: the first time you've felt there's any kind of a whoa, wait,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you're not excited to just go jump down the aisle
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: with them? Is that that was what was going through
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: your mind?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Huh? One hundred percent.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Only because I am strictly a viewer of the show
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: base on what I've been watching. Along with the rain drops,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I see nothing that I'm shown but the fact that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they love each other. Ryan has moved Jen and her
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: children to his home. Ryan was going through a scandal,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and Jim stood by her. Mam Like Tammy Whynett, do
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: wiut all of this?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: They are a sexy couple.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: They love to be have naked on a beach and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a gym, and they they have this solidarity that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We are together and we are one.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: So the fact that the only indication that there could
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: be possible trouble in Paradise allegedly.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Is the fact that she failed.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And they and I don't want to misquote, but based
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: on what I saw in my notes, they said you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: failed significantly when I asked that question about marrying Ryan,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: which now you're saying, listen, in the waters of the OC,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: there's rumors that you know, the wedding may not happen
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and that it may.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Allegedly be put on palls.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking to myself as this and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: would love to get your thoughts on it. And I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: hoping that we spend more time on Thissiness season because
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the Katie shit.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm over it, but I'm over it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I now wonder this one of the things that I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: can't guess if.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: If if Jen and Ryan are putting their wedding on Pauls,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: it has to be because of money.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And when I say that, there has to be something
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: about assets being protected, the things needing to be you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: done properly, information coming out that maybe they didn't know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Those were the things running through my mind.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Is that something that you're hearing too, or are you
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hearing something completely different?
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: No, and I'm not really.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: That's the funny thing is the chatter is not really
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: talking about why. It's just everyone's kind of going hmm.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You know, they were engaged, they were supposed to get married,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you know, a X, Y and Z and the Bahamas
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: and this, and then there was no.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Wedding because, like I said, we'd still hear about it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Even if even they wouldn't, they wouldn't show anything or
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: post anything and talk for the show aired, we still
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: know the married. So yeah, I just think that might
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: be where it's coming from. But you're absolutely right. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: mean that could both of those things could be true
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: about what you're saying. It could be the money, or
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: it could be the assets, or it could be the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean the fact that he already moved
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the kids in shows you that he's committed and loves
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: her and wants to. I mean, that's just such a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: heroic thing to do. And he does love those He's
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: very good to her and the kids. So yeah, yeah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel also like I think Gina and
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Emily just wanted to get this out. But I feel
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: like Gina and Emily are such mean girls this season, though,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I feel like what they did and kicking Katie out
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and doing all that, I feel like that was mean girl.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I know I'm jumping a topic right now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Sometimes in my heart, I even wanted to text Katie,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: but where I'm still kind of so mad at her
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: for lying about it, but I even wanted to text
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: her and just be like, girlfriend, that is not cool.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: It was not cool.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, two things can be true. Katie can
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: be a liar, and I believe she is. However, who
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the fuck are you to kick someone out.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Like that mean and that mean of a way.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Just simply take her outside or pull her aside and
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: talk to her like, don't it's so high school mean girl?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Just you know.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: And I saw the brunch of it last year. They
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: were both mean girls to me, so I know that
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they have that spirit in them, but it really made
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: me mad the way that they handled Like Katie's not
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: sitting there taking enough. She just significantly failed the light
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: detect her test. She's going to be humiliated knowing that
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: it's going to air, and then and then you still
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: tell her she should leave. I just it really bothered me.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So now let's talk about it, because again, there's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: no rules about.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You know, how we construct this episode.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: So let's just get right into that too, and I'll
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: go back to some other stuff I want to talk
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: about that happen prior to that moment. It discussed me
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to see Emily tell Katie to leave. You're not the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: boss of anybody?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Who are you?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And I like Emily a lot. That was fucked up.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It literally disgusted me seeing that happen.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Who are you?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: It reminded me, honestly, Uh, if I'm being completely honest,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: then I'm always now.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: When having de Bro tell Kelly Dodd to leave? Who
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: who you like?
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck are you to tell somebody who's on
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the same show as you, who's holding an orange as you.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That they need to leave?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And that's why I will always laugh and love when
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Kelly Dodd said to Heather.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Who are you? You're not my balls?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I thought that was like, to me, that's funny, And yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Kelly Doll has said some problematic shit, but we're not
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to talk about that right now. I'm
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: going to talk about the correlation. Go ahead, Alexis.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I just had a thought. Cameron judge, he's one of
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: my closest friends. Kicked me out of her gym. She goes,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: get the fuck down here. I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: not to cuse. Just bleep that up.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, talking like, wait a minute, I feel
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: like I've been kicked out.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: What was fine?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but listen, guess what if Tama's the fifth
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you were on her property?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Well it hold on? Hold on, Emily was where this
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: is that?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So Katie was at Eily's property?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Oh? Hold on?
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: And wasn't Kelly at Heather's house?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Was restaurant? That's the restaurant, okay, the.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Only one that Hey, that's the only one. We're correct
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: about that. We got to just erace everything else.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: And I also said too that I detested when Shannon
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: told when Shannon yelled at Katie a few episodes all
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: go so listen.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I know that when it comes to Katie, listen. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: like Katie.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Katie's gorgeous, but I listen when it comes to the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: people we love. It's also okay to say, in this instance,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I think you're wrong. I think Katie is a liar. Sorry,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think she is, but that doesn't mean that she
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: does serves to be yelled at by Shanning, and it
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she deserves to be kicked out in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And Jen, I love Jen, I love you.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Two pieces the fact that, out of anybody on that show,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you're the closest to her, and I think as a
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: human being, I expected jan to get up and just
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: go outside and say, Katie, look, although I think what
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you did was whatever, I just want.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: To make sure you're okay because I agree to to
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to to be to be alone in that moment.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And again, it's okay to know that she felt something miserably,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that this woman deserved to be.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Yelled at kicked out.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And the fact that not one person went outside to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: say I want to make sure you're okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Want to talk about the fact that two things were
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: caught in live Tamra saying that she's on the spectrum,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: she felt that she was surprised, she felt it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: They then flashed back to the therapists pretty much confirming
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that that was talked about. What did you make of that?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Because I thought that was luck And I'm like, well,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: we kind of saw on camera that that was a conversation,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So how does she fail that?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And it made me think about the validity of this test.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, And that's what I'm trying to say,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: is that it's like, even though Gretchen passed it all
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: with flying colors and Katie failed it all miserably, it
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: shows you right there with Tameras that the test isn't
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: all accurate all the time, because it shows that Tamra
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: had that conversation with her therapist.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: So she's not lying about it her thing.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe she worded it improperly or or claimed it too
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: much of it like that she is, but her therapist
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: in her had the conversation on camera that Tamra should
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: get tested for being on the spectrum, so because her
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: therapist thinks she is. So yeah, the test isn't always accurate.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I love that they showed that because then it's like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: because then you have one character on the show passing
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: with flying colors, one character failing it all miserably, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: so and then you have one that they prove that
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: the test is in accurate.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So but one thing that I want to make clear,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and this is why I love having my assistant Lizzie
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: on because Lizzie watched it with us, and Liza's gonna
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: keep us honest. Lizzy is texting me saying that the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: therapist and Lizzie tell me if I got this Rian
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: as I'm reading your notes, if they're sending me in real.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Time, I fall loving show. Okay.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Lizzy is saying to me that the therapist said she
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: should get tested for being on the spectrum, but not
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: necessarily saying she was on the spectrum.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Lizzy is saying to me, no.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Onah confirmed that a doctor told her she was on
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the spectrum, which is why she turned them around and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: apologized on social media.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the difference.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Now, now, thank you for keeping us accurate.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Always listen to Rialna Tevamiking from the actor reporting I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: love Love Love love us. Okay, So that was that
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: one not not so so now we know why she
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: failed it because to your point, it was the wrong
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: question being asked.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, there we go, debait. They should have said do
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: you think you're on the spectrum? Not has a doctor
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: said you're on the spectrum?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the doctor said you should get tested for it?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Right there you go?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, Heather failed, not the one Heather.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I like you, Jesus, I'm recapping the show Heather failed
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with acts.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: If she called the paparazzi on herself, I know no
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: in Alexis tell me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I guess by your laughing and your reaction and what
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I'm looking watching you do right now, you do.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Believe she called the paparazzis.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I think this. I think this, I think this, I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: think this. I think this. Now. I will say this.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think a mother would swear on their children
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: if they're telling I mean, if they're lying.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I just.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know a mother in my life who would
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: lie on their kids for something as minuscule as a paparazzi.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's silly. So I will say this. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: watched the show. Heather Debro loves her children to pieces.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: She's a great mother.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: If she's saying I did not call them and I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: swear my kids, I do believe her. So I do
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: believe her now with that being said. With that being said,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: it's all a game of semantics.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: To me, because my my my true crime reporter alexibl
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: know who should be a producer on Daylight NBC and
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: day Light NBC, if.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You're hiring hire lessis Billina to give us a recording? Now,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I believe that somebody in Heather's camp.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Ah, I was gonna go there.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I'm semantic. Did it have the pick up the fall
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and call Harvey Labin from TMZ. Absolutely not.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Now the Heavis assistant publishist, manager, real estate agent friend
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: called the fabarazzi on her and and uh and Terry.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I I was gonna. I was gonna mention that if
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: you didn't bring it up. I was, because it's in
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: my mind, I'm.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Like, she could totally have failed it because yeah, she
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: didn't specifically pick up the phone, but she knows in
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: her heart that somebody did that that is connected to her,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I was yeah, very very good catch there, Carlos.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: We're okay.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: So maybe we both need to go to dateline and
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: produce that okay, because we are just I'm just so
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: proud of our skills.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Damn. I would love it. That's why are recapt our head,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: because people just love us.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And once again, people haven't seen your praise and so
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I won't let you know that another week. You've been
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: in the pressed, girlfriend, So I can't thank you enough
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for hopping on this. Okay, wait, I have a look,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I have a Lizzy note, not a legal note, a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Lizzy note.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: So Lizzy said, I just rewatched it for us. The
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: therapist sent, it's hard to say until you get an assessment.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: So yes, we are right about the fact that she
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: said you should get tested.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, now, so ig, what camera would think?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I can see why Tamper would think that. The therapist
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: thought that. Then, Okay, it's not like camera's trying to
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: lie about it. Like, no one's going to go out
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: there and lie and say that they they're on the
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: spectrum when they're not. That's why it was in Tamra's
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: mind obviously from that what the therapist said, thank you, Lizzie.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent agreed.
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: Now, Gretchen, you before I go back to what she said,
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Gretchen passed the test with flying collars.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Gretchen said she never told Katie that she.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Went to the hospital, got rufeed she and she passed that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: She passed the fact that I've got the other questions.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: But long story stores she passed every question and they
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: said you low key passed with flying collars.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: No, they said you passed I think Lizzie will keep
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: us on this.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I think that I remember, I think that the lady said,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the woman examiner said, you actually passed the entire test,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: So that's why. And my dateline mind went off because
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: of what I'm like, Okay, well that's kind of scary, actually, like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: that's not that means you can rely really good, because
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: there's no way you're going to pass every single one
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I mean unless what.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Unless you really are a onl Arietta.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: But we know she's We know she's not because we
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: have the footage of her the back of the car
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: saying she did go to the hospital, so she lied.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: There, So she's not true, not honest.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Honest, Harry or you know whatever, Henriette. I mean, maybe
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: up if she hadn't slipped up and done that in
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the back of the car, then maybe we could all
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: be going, yeah, she must.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Be really honest.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's so she lined one episode ago
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: to everybody, so don't don't don't don't sing her praises
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: on that just because she can pass the light detector
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: test with flying colors.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But Alex says, it just hit me what My producer
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: brain went off again. The fact that the producers are
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: showing us flashbacks to come back the failure and the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: passing of some of these women. I believe they're low
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: key telling us without telling us, perhaps this live this
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: live detector test results is not as accurate as it
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: should be because to your point, but Tamra thing we
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: saw Booth, the Gretcha thing.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: We saw that she did tell Tamara and Shannon that
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: she did go to the hospital.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: She sent the live detective tests, she did not go
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to the hospital, and she passed. Maybe the producers are
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: saying to us, this is our way of not getting
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: into the weeds of it, but we can only allow
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you guys to see the full picture that maybe this
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: live detective test isn't as accurate as it may appear.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: If that's the case, are we now being told that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: maybe Katie told the truth and some of these things,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: or do you believe that Katie filled significantly because she
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: lied about every by significantly.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I can't remember all of her questions now, but
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I definitely don't think she's going to fail the entire
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: test unless it's because remember when she sat down in
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: the chair, She's just.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm so anxious I'm so anxious. I'm so anxious.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: So maybe she kind of psyites herself out to where
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: her body was just reacting in every certain.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Way for all the questions.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: If they said, even if they said, are you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: are you forty two? And she has forty two, I
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: don't know what her age is, but I'm just saying, you.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Know, I asked her question like that that really is
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: she is honestly saying.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I think she might have still even failed it because
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I think she was so just so worked up. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: by the way, Carlos, I think the producers also are
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: are setting us up for a couple episodes coming up
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: that they're going that they're they're going to keep using
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: this light detector test and show that there are more
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: lies that are still being told. I believe that we're
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: still going to see more lies.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I think that they the light detector test was just
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: one way of like saying that they're not legit, but
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: also to add some fun and some you know, it
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: was kind of interesting to watch it, right, But I
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: believe that we're still going to see more lies coming out.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I did too. I do too.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Flash back back to the light detector test too, so
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: it was just interesting.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I'm glad they did it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I know America is not loving it and thinks it
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: was really bad, bad, but I I love it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: I think it was I think it was fun.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Look, this was the best episode of the season, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: all the episodes to me have been great, So I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, I can predict
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: that this episode will probably be the highest rated of
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the season so far. Because of what you said, Alexit,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I had an emotional
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: reaction watching it, and it's because I've never seen anything
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: like this on a housewives show, where everybody is called
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: to the carpet and being forced honestly, you know, with
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the machine strapped to you to be honest. And look,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: if Katie is a liar, this is what I will.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do think she is one, but I
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Go on record saying I don't think Katie is the
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: own liar, right, and I don't think. I don't think
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Katie's lies is bigger than other housewives who have lied
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that are still on the show.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Agree That's how I feel, And I don't think Katie's.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: A liar about everything either. I want to clear that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think she lies about every single thing. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: think she's just she's just got caught in so many
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: that you know that that now it's hard to believe
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: any of what she says. But I don't think she's
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: she I don't think she failed that test all the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: way and lied about every single one of them.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So. Yeah, and I'm also.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Over I'm also over the Katie stuff. Like I'm ready
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: for the show to move. It's like, it's like, put
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: that to rest and let's move the show forward. So
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping, you know, like next episode it's going to
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: be to be continued because we saw Katie, you know,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: leave and is so upset, and it's like, okay, can
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: we just now can we take the point of moving
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: over this and go on to fast forward the show
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: in another direction?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I I drew with you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So it looks like Katie may have been sirt her
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: walking papers. Katie did an interview recently where she said
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that she was not invited to I believe the cast
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: trip she asks to go.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: That's allegedly what happened. Who knows.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: But my last question for you, alexis is this based
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: on what you've seen. Do you think Gretchen is being
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: set up by the producers to come back to the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: show next season as a full time housewife.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's just so many more episodes
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: to see. And there was one on the trailer where
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: she's really really oh on the cast trip, it looked
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: like that she was screaming into the van. Make it
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: make sense. So I don't know, I don't know. I
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot to buy, a lot that we're going.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: To get to see.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you want her to.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Come back full time? What is your take on that?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm a big Regipan, and I think Gretchen and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Tama to me, reminds me a lot of Portia Kenya.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Reminds me a lot of just like when you have
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: two women who are very strong and opinionated have a conflict.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I think they're both great at it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: So looks as of now, I would love to see
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Gretchen back full time. I want to see Alexis Belino
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: back full time. You know, I would like to see
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Shannaby a friend up to the show in my opinion,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And look, I think the rest of the cast should
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: stay and I think Katie just isn't built for reality television.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I think Katie.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I think Katie should just go back to like what
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: she was doing before the show and live a very
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: peaceful life with her amazing husband.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I think Matt is a great guy. So that's that's
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: what Carlos Kimbral likes to see.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, well you heard it here, and so we will
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: see if your prediction is right. We can we can
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: flash back to this in a year.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Or two say you're wrong, Yes we can't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Electavely no.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my sister for another great episode,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Bye, doll.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: With The Lack Effect Network.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore