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The Late Debate | 25 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late Welcome the Late Debate. Good evening and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the program.
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Speaker 2: I'm Frey Leach, joined by Holly Hughes and Caroline Marcus.
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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on.
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Speaker 2: The Late Debate or should I say the Ladies Debate tonight.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasey says he's worried about the right wing vote
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Speaker 2: fragmenting or is he making a play for the leadership.
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Speaker 1: We'll have our say.
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Speaker 2: And Ozzie Mum got a standing ovation at the un
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what she told world leaders later in
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Speaker 2: the hour. And Trump's latest move to troll Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: is incredible. In the White House's new Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's official portrait is an auto pen. Now, Greta
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Speaker 2: Thunberg's Freedom Freak Show is making its way to Gaza,
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Speaker 2: but active us on board claim they're being attacked by
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Speaker 2: drones that are inflicting psychological warfare.
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Speaker 1: Bye playing abbassong.
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Speaker 3: So our VHF radio was hijacked by adversarial colms and
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Speaker 3: they started playing abba. So this is the initiation of
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Speaker 3: the psychological operations that we had mentioned previously. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: I'm going to park my head here so I cover
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Speaker 3: it up whichever VHF channel we use. But we've been
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Speaker 3: dealing with this on them.
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Speaker 2: Now they say it's as of yet non lethal. Now,
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Speaker 2: I know ABA is not everyone's cup of tea, but
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that's lethal psychological warfare, especially when they're
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Speaker 2: heading into Gaza, where you still have forty eight hostages
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Speaker 2: who've been held.
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Speaker 1: There for almost two years.
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Speaker 2: And you'll remember last time they attempted to enter Gaza,
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Speaker 2: the IDF offered to show them footage of October seven,
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Speaker 2: but the activists decline because they're not interested in actual civilians,
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Speaker 2: in actual human suffering. This is all just a huge stunt.
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Speaker 2: And I also don't think we can take much of
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Speaker 2: what they say very seriously because a couple of weeks
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Speaker 2: ago they claimed to have gotten attacked by drone, but
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Speaker 2: it was a Miss five Flair that they shot Caroline.
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Speaker 2: How is this really going to end? I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: just an embarrassment.
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Speaker 4: It is so embarrassing.
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Speaker 5: But you know, the one song that I hoped that
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Speaker 5: they played, the ABBA song that they played over their
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Speaker 5: communication system, it's this one.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just gold. Whoever decided to do this,
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Speaker 4: It is just gold.
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Speaker 5: Because obviously Greta Thumberg is Swedish, so this is a
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Speaker 5: little dig at her, and she's the celebrity face of
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Speaker 5: this flotilla, this propaganda stunt making its way yet again
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Speaker 5: to Gazi, even though they've been stopped previously, the same
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Speaker 5: flotilla back in June, back in July, and now they
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Speaker 5: are saying that it's it's an issue that they're being
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Speaker 5: inundated with this horrific music, terrible psychological.
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Speaker 4: It is tychological.
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, there's obviously no psychological impact for
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Speaker 6: anyone having to watch it. An Israeli hostage having to
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Speaker 6: dig their own grave. I mean, that's that's all good.
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Speaker 6: No drama with that. That's not psychologically, you know, in
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Speaker 6: any way having an impact. The daily attacks, missile attacks
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Speaker 6: into Israel every day, they're not a psychological form of warfare.
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Speaker 7: No, that's all good. Abba is the problem.
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Speaker 6: I mean, these people and I couldn't get over today
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Speaker 6: when the Italian government actually there's a ship that's gone
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Speaker 6: up alongside them, and the Italian ships actually said, you
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Speaker 6: know what, we could pretty much take everything you've got
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Speaker 6: on board and get it there faster if that's what
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Speaker 6: you want, and if that doesn't just prove this isn't
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Speaker 6: about a delivery, but the stunt.
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Speaker 7: It's exactly what it's about.
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Speaker 5: Course, they're never going to reach Garsland, they're never going
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Speaker 5: to be able to deliver the aid.
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Speaker 6: But the other so shortage of it either it's the
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Speaker 6: un that won't let it through.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And the amount of disinformation about the ad
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Speaker 5: delivery that we've seen in recent months has been absolutely shocking.
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Speaker 5: But the other interesting element of this that came out
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Speaker 5: today is that and this shows exactly why there is
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Speaker 5: such a bizarre marriage between radical Islamists who support what
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Speaker 5: her Mass is doing and the progressives, the useful idiots
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Speaker 5: of the West, who comes together Palestine.
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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of.
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Speaker 5: Queers for Palestine, there was a queer activist on this flotilla,
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Speaker 5: but many of the other crew didn't realize that he
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Speaker 5: was queer. And when when they did find out about it,
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Speaker 5: one of the coordinators of this flowtiller, this Global SMD
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Speaker 5: flotilla quit and he put out a very public social
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Speaker 5: media message saying I had no idea there were queer
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Speaker 5: activists on board and I'm not going to be part
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Speaker 5: of this. So it just goes to show how ridiculous
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Speaker 5: and if you try and get your head around any
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Speaker 5: of this, it actually makes your head hurt, like these
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Speaker 5: people are so stupid, you just can't negotiate with stupid.
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Speaker 1: Exactly Well, the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Last night, we talked about Jeremy Corbyn's new party in
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Speaker 2: the UK and how three months into its existence they're
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Speaker 2: already divided and at war with each other, and one
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Speaker 2: of the issues was whether they believed in trans rites
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Speaker 2: and whether trans people should be able to change their
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Speaker 2: gender because a lot of the people who started the
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Speaker 2: party were quite conservative Muslims who obviously take a conservative
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Speaker 2: view on a lot of these social issues. But then
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Speaker 2: you're trying to marry them up with these radical progressives
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Speaker 2: and at some point it just doesn't work.
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Speaker 6: Well, they don't work at all. They are in direct
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Speaker 6: conflict with each other. And you know, perhaps Greta should
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Speaker 6: have had a look at the Smart Traveler website that
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Speaker 6: actually says on Palestine now do not go so, you know,
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Speaker 6: and there's very explicit instructions there with regards to homosexual
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Speaker 6: relationships not being in the same room.
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Speaker 7: And the way that the laws operate particularly.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's punishable by death, but for ten years in
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Speaker 5: Gaza homosexual activity, but that is nothing compared to being
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Speaker 5: thrown off a building, which is what has happened to
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Speaker 5: plenty of gay people in Gaza. But look, speaking of Palestine,
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Speaker 5: Albanezi delivered his much anticipated Speech of the United Nations
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Speaker 5: today and of course that was one of the things
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Speaker 5: he touched on about how Australia has recognized Palestine and
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Speaker 5: what a virtuous country that makes us.
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Speaker 4: Here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 7: About that.
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Speaker 8: This week, Australia recognized the state of Palestine because, to
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Speaker 8: quote from the charter that forms the very foundations of
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Speaker 8: this institution and reflects the very best of its idealism,
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Speaker 8: we are determined quote to save succeeding generations from the
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Speaker 8: scourge of war, to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights.
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Speaker 5: I mean, put aside the fact the whole speech was
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Speaker 5: a joke, because how does this prevent war when you
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Speaker 5: are rewarding terrorists who invaded another country?
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Speaker 4: But it just this is just one example many of.
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Speaker 5: The topics he talked about, climate change in particular and emissions.
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Speaker 4: How how different like contrast.
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Speaker 5: His speech his weak speech, Nor Sir Donald is a.
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Speaker 6: Sleep aid because honestly, he's the worst orator, he'd put
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Speaker 6: anyone to sleep, any insomniac asleep.
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Speaker 2: Well, the UN chamber was basically empty as Albanizi was speaking,
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Speaker 2: so I think he basically did put them to sleep,
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Speaker 2: or they knew what they were in for and left
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Speaker 2: before he could open his mouth, as I certainly would.
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Speaker 2: But you're right and the way he says this is
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Speaker 2: all about idealism, Well, idealism is one way to describe
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Speaker 2: recognizing a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 1: Delusional is probably.
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Speaker 2: Another, and thinking that's going to have any lasting benefit
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Speaker 2: is just ridiculous. But this is what he had to
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Speaker 2: say about climate emissions. Of course, on his high horse.
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Speaker 8: Australia is acting to meet the environmental challenge of climate
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Speaker 8: change while working to seize and share the economic opportunities
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Speaker 8: of renewable energy. We will meet our twenty thirty target
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Speaker 8: of forty three percent emissions reduction on two thousand and
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Speaker 8: five levels, and last week we've set our target for
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Speaker 8: two thousand and thirty five.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now, what's been really interesting about the UN so far
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Speaker 2: is we've seen obviously Donald Trump come out very hard
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Speaker 2: against climate change.
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Speaker 1: Is called it a con jo job.
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Speaker 2: And then interestingly we've now seen Jijingping from China come
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Speaker 2: out and say this is the greatest transition of our time.
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Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, there's a bit of a
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Speaker 2: red flag when you're taking the side of China against
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Speaker 2: the US. Maybe Trump knows thing alban Easy doesn't.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's well and truly obvious about many, many,
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Speaker 6: many issues. But the fact that China is even now
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Speaker 6: having a discussion that they get saying they're going to
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Speaker 6: reduce their emissions by ten percent, when you look at
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Speaker 6: what we're doing to our economy and the volume of
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Speaker 6: this what is it sixty to seventy two?
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Speaker 7: Now, what are they I'm in sixty.
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Speaker 6: Two to seventy seventy That's how That's how enthusiastic I
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Speaker 6: am about it.
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Speaker 5: And I actually believe we'll get there to export our
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Speaker 5: coal two countries like China does.
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Speaker 4: Albany.
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Speaker 5: Now I and all realize that the emissions still count.
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Speaker 4: Well, we're in other country.
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Speaker 7: We're like one percent of global shack. So it's China's
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Speaker 7: up there with you.
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Speaker 6: Know, over a third of global emissions. Yet they're able
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Speaker 6: to go down by ten percent and that's going to
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Speaker 6: be amazing. Yet we are going to kill our economy
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Speaker 6: off and make sure no one are going to ever
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Speaker 6: afford a power bill again to make no difference.
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Speaker 1: What's yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, on top of Palestine where we're at odds with
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Speaker 2: the US, and then climate change and emissions reduction, there's
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Speaker 2: also the issue of the social media ban. Now NewsCorp
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Speaker 2: has run a big campaign called let Them Be Kids,
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Speaker 2: supporting the ban.
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Speaker 1: Labours obviously picked this up. I mean the Coalition.
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Speaker 2: Also did pledge the same thing, an under sixteen social
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Speaker 2: media ban. Interestingly, an Australian mum actually went to the
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Speaker 2: UN and told the story of her daughter, calling on
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Speaker 2: world leaders to follow in Australia's footsteps and roll out
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Speaker 2: this under sixteens band in their countries too.
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Speaker 9: So now I ask you to hold my Tilly and
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Speaker 9: all the lost children in your hearts and do what
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Speaker 9: you can to change the narrative across our world for
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Speaker 9: Tilly's sake, because how many more Tillies must die?
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Speaker 2: She's talking there about her fifteen year old daughter who
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Speaker 2: tragically took her own life because of bullying on social media. Now,
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Speaker 2: Caroline initially is quite in favor of a social media
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Speaker 2: band because I'm jen Zed, I grew up on it.
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Speaker 2: I understand how harmful it is. But my concern here,
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Speaker 2: and we've seen Elon must come out and say this
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Speaker 2: is violating freedom.
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Speaker 1: Of speech, freedom back to say.
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Speaker 2: That Trump has said they're going to impost tariffs on
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Speaker 2: countries that implement a social media ban.
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Speaker 1: I just don't know if this is possible at this point.
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Speaker 5: Well, we have to try something because all the research
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Speaker 5: has shown how harmful it is. And I might not
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Speaker 5: be gen X, but I was the generation I'm millennial
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Speaker 5: that lived had a childhood and adolescence without social media,
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Speaker 5: thank goodness, and then were still young enough to adopt
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Speaker 5: it in my twenties. And I just see the impact
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Speaker 5: that it's having on the next generations and I actually
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Speaker 5: feel so sorry for them. And now with two young
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Speaker 5: children myself, it fills me with fear, real fear, Like
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Speaker 5: when I found out I was pregnant with a girl
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Speaker 5: and she's only three now, I felt terrified for her
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Speaker 5: future because it is hard enough growing up and going
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Speaker 5: through at lessons, particularly for girls, because there is so
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Speaker 5: much cruelty that teenage.
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Speaker 7: And Adams girls that resonated.
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Speaker 5: It resonates for everyone, and I'm not saying boys don't
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Speaker 5: experience it too. Because there have been tragic cases of
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Speaker 5: suicide for boys who which have been linked to social
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Speaker 5: media as well. But I really hope there is a correction,
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Speaker 5: and I see this ban as the start of that correction.
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Speaker 5: You know, there've been experts like the social psychologist Jonathan
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Speaker 5: Hyde who've spoken about this in his books, and especially
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Speaker 5: the Anxious Generation, really talking about the hard data that
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Speaker 5: links the harms that social media can call. So I
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Speaker 5: don't think we should say, oh, look at mine, not
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Speaker 5: go far enough.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't include this meeting. Let's just try it. Let's
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Speaker 4: try something for goodness.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess so.
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Speaker 6: I have a few concerns with it in that I
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Speaker 6: don't think enough of the platforms that are actually doing
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Speaker 6: a lot of the harm and necessarily included. So if
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Speaker 6: you go further, well, if you're going to do something,
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Speaker 6: then things like Discord, which are gaming chat sites, which
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Speaker 6: is where a lot of boys are getting caught up
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Speaker 6: into very very harmful behaviors.
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Speaker 4: And where Charlie Kirk's alleged killer was.
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Speaker 6: That's where there was conversation a global issue. So you
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Speaker 6: can't say Instagram is going to be all the problem
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Speaker 6: versus Discord is going to be okay when that's clearly
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Speaker 6: not the case. I think the YouTube ban is silly
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Speaker 6: in itself because of what the content of YouTube is
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Speaker 6: versus what a lot of these other sites are. But
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Speaker 6: what does worry me and a poor mother to have
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Speaker 6: to bury her fifteen year old daughter. Whatever happened to
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Speaker 6: the bullies? And I cannot get over the fact that
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Speaker 6: they know who these kids are. They can see their
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Speaker 6: online profiles, they can see where they're starting, and most
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Speaker 6: of the time it starts in the school yard and
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Speaker 6: then goes.
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Speaker 7: Back to the home.
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Speaker 6: And so what is ever happening to these bullies? What
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Speaker 6: are the ramifications? Because it's terrible what's going on. But
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Speaker 6: if no one's ever being punished for it, and you're
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Speaker 6: just allowed to behave that way, then how are you
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Speaker 6: going to change?
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Speaker 7: There? We move on.
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Speaker 5: I just want to quickly show people at home, and
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Speaker 5: you pray as well, because maybe this will.
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Speaker 4: Change your mind.
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Speaker 5: This was a clip I saw on Jonathan heights page
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Speaker 5: today on social media, ironically about the harms.
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Speaker 10: Hey itoll, it's about time for bad Okay, okay, Well,
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Speaker 10: remember there's a box in the corner over there with
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Speaker 10: all the pornographic material that's ever been made in the world,
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Speaker 10: even the really weird stuff that could scar you for life.
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Speaker 10: I'm trusting you not to look in there.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, feelings are for losers.
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Speaker 10: Oh and this guy is going to be in your
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Speaker 10: corner only just randomly spewing out hateful things. Just ignore them, Okay.
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Speaker 4: I mean disturbing stuff.
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Speaker 5: But that just encapsulated I trust your kids. We don't
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Speaker 5: even have the self control to stop from doom squawland.
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Speaker 4: So what chance do kids have?
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Speaker 11: No?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely not, And that was incredibly poignant and probably every
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Speaker 6: parent should say that. But moving on, I wanted to
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Speaker 6: have a talk about the Liberal Party and what is
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Speaker 6: currently going on, and it just seems to be a
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Speaker 6: faux leadership battle is occurring. And it was interesting today
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Speaker 6: to see Andrew Hasty start to walk back some of
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Speaker 6: the comments whilst declaring strong support for Susan Lee. I
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Speaker 6: absolutely am dumbfounded by his behavior. I don't know what
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Speaker 6: is going on and what his plans are. And it's
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Speaker 6: interesting because Amanda Vanstone and Art Synadinas and other very
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Speaker 6: very significant figures within the Liberal Party have all come
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Speaker 6: out saying the same thing. And these are people that
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Speaker 6: have experienced within a party room, and there's one thing
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Speaker 6: about getting a headline. And I saw the comments today
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Speaker 6: with regards to immigration, and yeah, it is a topic
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Speaker 6: that the Liberal Party will need to address and come
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Speaker 6: up with a policy. They did have one going into
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Speaker 6: the last election. But they also have a shadow Immigration
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Speaker 6: Minister and Senator Paul Scarr, who is probably one of
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Speaker 6: the bigger brains in.
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Speaker 7: That parliamentary party room.
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Speaker 6: And I have no doubt that Paul Scarr is doing
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Speaker 6: a significant amount of policy work with detail behind the
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Speaker 6: scenes before it's announced. So I'm getting to the point
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Speaker 6: where it's either put.
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Speaker 7: Up or shut up.
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Speaker 6: Get back on the team, because let me tell you, Andre,
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Speaker 6: just a little tip from someone who used to sit
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Speaker 6: in that room. If you're not part of the team,
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Speaker 6: a lot of the team won't back you when you
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Speaker 6: want them to. And calling them muppets and cowards was
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Speaker 6: not a good move this week. So who is ever
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Speaker 6: advising you to do that? I'd maybe look for some
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Speaker 6: new advice.
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Speaker 2: No, no, but it's important to explain the context in
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Speaker 2: which Hasty made those comments.
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Speaker 7: Because someone without their names, let me show you.
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Speaker 1: I think it's pathetic.
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Speaker 7: That's the first time that's I.
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Speaker 2: Think it's absolutely pathetic when people anonymously leak.
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Speaker 1: Against each other in the newspaper.
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Speaker 2: And I think they're all just freaking out because someone's
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Speaker 2: called it out.
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Speaker 1: They all do it. It's terribly behavior.
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Speaker 7: I've been around years. That happens all the time.
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Speaker 6: And you know what, that's the roll of the journals
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Speaker 6: out there who are saying, oh, we can't have blind
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Speaker 6: we can't have blind sources, and they need to put
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Speaker 6: their names to it. Then don't take their calls and
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Speaker 6: put their tip bits of information up a liberal source,
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Speaker 6: a party insider. Maybe then every single journal I should
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Speaker 6: be saying from the party room when they get a
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Speaker 6: text message, oh this MP or senator, they.
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Speaker 5: Won't get any Maybe I don't think we can relate.
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Speaker 5: It's the most ridiculous when so many politicians shows very
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Speaker 5: page to put.
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Speaker 4: Their names for it.
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Speaker 5: You know, Tony Abbott always said he wouldn't leak because
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Speaker 5: he and I see Andrew Hasty very much in the
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Speaker 5: same vein as Tony Abbott. He's a politician of conviction
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Speaker 5: from the right and that might not be everyone's cup
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Speaker 5: of tea in the party, but it is a broad church.
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Speaker 5: That is what makes the Liberal Party that they can
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Speaker 5: have different views on policies.
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Speaker 4: And the other thing is Australians.
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Speaker 5: Are getting sick of waiting for these policy announcements from
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Speaker 5: the Liberal Party. They've had months and months now since
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Speaker 5: the election, since the election, exact sitting weeks they've had
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Speaker 5: just a way for They've.
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Speaker 6: Had four sitting weeks. The first round of estimates are
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Speaker 6: not too.
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you what, I wait around long, but the
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Speaker 5: primary vote is already down to twenty eleven one nation.
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Speaker 7: The election is not for two and a half years.
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Speaker 6: Putting estimates will be in a few weeks in the Senate.
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Speaker 6: Have a look at who does the Home Affairs estimates questions,
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Speaker 6: how investigative they are, how focused they are, what work
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Speaker 6: has been done to criticize or look and explore the
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Speaker 6: government's policy. Because whilst he's out making social media videos,
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Speaker 6: perhaps he should be having a look at what the
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Speaker 6: government's doing and how they get called to account in estimates,
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Speaker 6: because that's the real I not a social media well I.
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Speaker 1: Think I think, I completely disagree.
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Speaker 2: I think we're in the era of politics where the
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Speaker 2: reality is we are now in a position where unless
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Speaker 2: you are on social media, unless you're a quasi celebrity, yourself.
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Speaker 2: You're not going to stand any chance Hasty's videos and well,
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Speaker 2: this is the other thing.
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Speaker 1: What is everyone so outraged?
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Speaker 2: What is Hasty doing that is ruffling all these feathers.
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Speaker 2: He's literal posting on social media and just posting videos.
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Speaker 1: This is what he's posted on Instagram. That's causing an uproar.
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Speaker 11: I don't know about you, but I have to remind
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Speaker 11: myself that we used to make cars in this country.
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Speaker 11: Check this car out. It's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship,
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Speaker 11: it's horsepower, it's heritage, it's grit, and it's an Aussie
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Speaker 11: car made by Aussie workers for the Australian people.
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Speaker 1: What is that destabilizing? What chaos is that causing?
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Speaker 7: Other than just.
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Speaker 2: Being patriotic and reaching one hundred one thousand.
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Speaker 6: I'm social media post twenty five media interviews, having colleagues
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Speaker 6: come out and say he's.
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Speaker 7: Going to be a great leader.
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Speaker 6: If you are so naive to believe this is not
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Speaker 6: part of a coordinated attack, maybe political commentary isn't the right.
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Speaker 5: But I think he is playing a long game, no doubt,
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Speaker 5: no doubt he wants to as I think he has
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Speaker 5: admitted that one day he has ambitions not. Now, I
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Speaker 5: don't see Susan Lee lasting to the election. I have
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Speaker 5: to say she was always going to be a placeholder.
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Speaker 2: If everyone is so perturbed at Andrew hasty posting on
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Speaker 2: social media.
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Speaker 1: Why don't they go do the exact same thing. It's
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Speaker 1: really not that hard.
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Speaker 6: Look, if we think we're going to run our country
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Speaker 6: via social media post, then God help us, or we
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Speaker 6: are doing bring on the media. Or if you think
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Speaker 6: social media posts is how we should, well I.
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Speaker 2: Think other people could learn a lesson or two by
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Speaker 2: him just going out there and speaking directly to people
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Speaker 2: and telling them what they want to hear.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 5: Look, one person who turned to social media another politics
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Speaker 5: is Nicolette Buller, who has finally been declared once and
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Speaker 5: for all the MP for Bradfield, the most tightly contested
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Speaker 5: seat in the federal election. And that's after Gizelle Capterian,
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Speaker 5: who was the Liberal candidate, abandoned her court challenge that
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Speaker 5: was supposed to happen.
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Speaker 4: Later this week.
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Speaker 5: It was supposed to go to a hearing in court
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Speaker 5: about this vote count. Now there was only a few
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Speaker 5: votes between them. Buller was ahead by something like twenty
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Speaker 5: six votes, but Gizelle Captiian has decided not to challenge,
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Speaker 5: and Nicolette Buller took to social media to say how
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Speaker 5: she was feeling about that.
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Speaker 12: I am relieved, absolutely, as it's been a really long
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Speaker 12: but incredibly impressive process with the AEC and the judiciary.
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Speaker 12: I'm very pleased to be on this side of it,
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Speaker 12: with obviously the result keeping me as the MP here
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Speaker 12: in Bradfield.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time with both candidates in
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Speaker 5: Brawdfield ahead of the election. I was covering that seat
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Speaker 5: for Sky News. I've got to say Nicolete Buller in
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Speaker 5: spite of some of the controversies she had. That was
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Speaker 5: hairdresser Gate, where she told an apprentice that the hair
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Speaker 5: wash that they gave her it was a nineteen year
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Speaker 5: old apprentice, was amazing and I didn't even have sex
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Speaker 5: with you.
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Speaker 4: And then she and she was barred, she was blacklisted
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Speaker 4: from that salon.
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Speaker 5: And then there were these anti Semitic posts that I
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Speaker 5: revealed on Sky News that she blamed on a volunteer.
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Speaker 4: But I always found her willing.
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Speaker 5: To own up to the mistakes that she made, and
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Speaker 5: she has a good sense of humor so ILike many
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Speaker 5: other chills who we've seen, I actually am willing to
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Speaker 5: give her a shot and see how she done.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's good.
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Speaker 2: I think Giselle was a great candidate and I hope
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Speaker 2: she runs again for Bradfield in the future.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's excellent for that scene.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, really, it's good that they've mere not wasting.
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Speaker 6: I never thought they should have been going able to
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Speaker 6: challenge anyway. But today we learn in Victoria that the
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Speaker 6: crime statistics are continuing to climb at an incredible and
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Speaker 6: very very distressing rate. That these are actually being blamed
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Speaker 6: on a number of economic factors as well as hangover
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Speaker 6: from COVID lockdowns and the damage that has done to
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Speaker 6: people within the state of Victoria. And we can see
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Speaker 6: that these numbers have overall climbed by it's a sixteen
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Speaker 6: percent increase that we're saying six hundred and thirty eight
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Speaker 6: thousand additional criminal criminal offenses have occurred in Victoria. And
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Speaker 6: the crime rate is actually increasing over a whole raft
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Speaker 6: of areas. It's not just one small crime area that's
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Speaker 6: been theft because of cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 7: It's across the board.
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Speaker 6: You're seeing significant increases occurring with regards to crimes committed
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Speaker 6: in Victoria. But what does this say about the entire
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Speaker 6: Victorian government. Their entire plan to deal with violent crime
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Speaker 6: was gum bins, machete bins. That's what they're coming up with.
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Speaker 6: The bail laws are a joke offenders. It's almost like
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Speaker 6: the revolving door. Police actually do the work and a
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Speaker 6: really difficult job. When we saw what happened in Victoria
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Speaker 6: just a few weeks ago with Desi Freeman and those
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Speaker 6: police officers who lost.
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Speaker 7: Their life, But they do the hard work.
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Speaker 6: They get before these magistrates, half of these people on
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Speaker 6: bail already and then they've given it straight away.
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Speaker 7: Again.
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Speaker 6: It's unacceptable and this is what is occurring not only
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Speaker 6: in Victoria. I know we're saying it in New South Wales.
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Speaker 6: I would just suggest to Chris Min's have a look
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Speaker 6: at what's happening in Dubbo and Moray, these sorts of
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Speaker 6: incidents that are happening all the time with the bail laws.
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Speaker 7: But something has got to be done. This is unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Deputy Police Commissioner done in Victoria really
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Speaker 2: linked a lot of the rise in youth crime in
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Speaker 2: particular to COVID lockdowns. Now you've got to remember a
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Speaker 2: lot of these young people spent two years locked up
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Speaker 2: in the world's longest lockdowns in Victoria, and the commission
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Speaker 2: Deputy Commissioner now says they feel disconnected from the community.
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Speaker 2: He also said the crime rates in this stage have
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Speaker 2: increased significantly since COVID and there's some underlying causes there,
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Speaker 2: especially that relates.
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Speaker 1: To young people.
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Speaker 2: Now, I again another thing we need to see factored
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Speaker 2: into a full cost benefit analysis of lockdowns, because five
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Speaker 2: years on and we are still feeling the cost of
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Speaker 2: these lockdowns, and especially for kids who were already at risk, they.
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Speaker 4: Were the worst effect.
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Speaker 2: To be schooled from home, out of this school system,
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Speaker 2: out of all those support systems.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them will never recover from that.
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Speaker 5: And I don't think we'll see the full impact that
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Speaker 5: the world's worst lockdowns have had on the state and
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Speaker 5: its population for many years to come, because these kids
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Speaker 5: will grow up. If they're young offenders, they will likely
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Speaker 5: reoffend in many cases, especially if they're not punished properly
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Speaker 5: with custodial sentences. And we'll see other instances where children
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Speaker 5: had been sexually abused because they were forced to be.
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Speaker 4: At home with their abuses.
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Speaker 5: In cases where that was happening, or they were forced
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Speaker 5: to be around cases where the mother was being abused
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Speaker 5: in those sorts of instances and not being able to
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Speaker 5: go to school, which would have been the only outlet.
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Speaker 4: For these children.
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Speaker 5: What kind of trauma and scars will they came around outlive?
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Speaker 7: You've got young kids. You know how important it is
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Speaker 7: for kids to.
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Speaker 5: Play with each old and South Wales they did experiment
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Speaker 5: with that at certain points and I always thought, this
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Speaker 5: is crazy. This is the one place they should be
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Speaker 5: safe to be. Where they're outdoors, they are unlikely to
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Speaker 5: catch any sort of airborne diseases.
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Speaker 7: Do you know what's frightening?
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is the Victorian government, this level of crime,
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Speaker 6: this impact and damage to the state, and they're ahead
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Speaker 6: in the polls. I mean they and just like the
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Speaker 6: Liberals in Victoria couldn't kick another own goal. They're back
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Speaker 6: in court suing each other over the more a deeming
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Speaker 6: John persudo. And that's going to be in court in
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Speaker 6: March as they're preparing for a state election. And the
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Speaker 6: Victorians deserve better. Everyone's got to get their house in order,
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Speaker 6: and I mean the Victorian Liberals get your house in order,
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Speaker 6: because the Victorian people deserve better than this government who
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Speaker 6: are increasing crime rates, killing your economy, yet you're keeping
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Speaker 6: them ahead in the polls.
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Speaker 2: Well, something that's even more annoying than Victorian, the Victorian
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Speaker 2: Labor Party, maybe.
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Speaker 1: Even the Victorian.
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Speaker 2: Liberals the Victorian is when you're out at a restaurant
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Speaker 2: or a pub and every time the waiter comes around
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Speaker 2: to take your order, ask if you want more drinks
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Speaker 2: something like that.
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Speaker 1: You've got a mouth full of food. It's awkward, it's embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: It kills the vibe.
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Speaker 2: And these comedians have captured the experience perfectly.
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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, you shore you've got everything, you know?
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Speaker 7: Thank you? Probably joy had you got the game last NF.
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Speaker 10: That was a good one.
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Speaker 9: A good where we are?
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Speaker 4: Guys, you're good for drinks here?
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Speaker 7: I think we're I think we're all very good.
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Speaker 10: Thank good.
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Speaker 2: It's such a real thing, though, and then you feel
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Speaker 2: so uncoordinated and like, oh my gosh, I'm so.
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Speaker 5: Embarrassing a lot of them do seem to have the
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Speaker 5: worst timing imaginal. But I'll tell you what's worse than that,
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Speaker 5: waiters who never come over to take your drink order
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Speaker 5: or your food order or check on you.
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Speaker 4: And you're like dying of thirst.
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Speaker 6: That is what much well, I think, you know, forget
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Speaker 6: filling up the water and the wine bottles empty.
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Speaker 7: And there isn't a waiter and your side over.
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Speaker 6: And that's if you've got to a really you know,
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Speaker 6: a nice restaurant where they pull the wine for you,
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Speaker 6: and then you can't find them and you can't even
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Speaker 6: find the bottle of wine because they have it stashed
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Speaker 6: somewhere else obviously.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know.
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Speaker 6: They're also the waiters in particular that when you do
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Speaker 6: ask for the check, will come over and stand there
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Speaker 6: with the you know, with the payment machine, but waiting
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Speaker 6: for you to put the tip in.
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Speaker 5: The already set at the level that's the and you
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Speaker 5: have to take it off if.
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Speaker 1: You don't legal.
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Speaker 2: There need to be protections against this sort of daylight robbery.
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Speaker 4: It's so absolutely it is.
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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of comedy, Jimmy Kimmel, he's been back on
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Speaker 5: air though we were.
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Speaker 7: Talking about comedy.
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Speaker 4: Back back on air in the US all but two stations.
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Speaker 5: I think it was that brought him back after a
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Speaker 5: one week hiatus. That's how long his cancelation lasted. And
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Speaker 5: guess what he got record ratings and six point three
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Speaker 5: million viewers across the US, and his usual average is
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Speaker 5: somewhere around one point four million viewers. Now that sounds
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Speaker 5: like a lot in Australia Land, where we have a
30:19
Speaker 5: far smaller population, but one point four million in America,
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Speaker 5: where they have three.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, that is small fry.
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Speaker 5: So this got his biggest audience yet and here's why.
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Speaker 13: But I do want to make something clear because it's
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Speaker 13: important to me as a human, and that is you
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Speaker 13: understand that it was never my intention to make light
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Speaker 13: of the murder of a young man.
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Speaker 12: I don't think there's anything running about it.
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Speaker 13: I posted a message on Instagram of the daves killed,
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Speaker 13: sending love to his family and asking for a compassion,
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Speaker 13: and I meant it.
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Speaker 7: I still do now.
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Speaker 5: It's difficult to watch someone break down on air or
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Speaker 5: be close to tears on her without feeling something for them.
31:04
Speaker 5: But then I stopped myself and I thought, where were
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Speaker 5: the tears when he was talking about Harley Kirk being
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Speaker 5: shot the first time?
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Speaker 4: I think there were genuine tears.
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Speaker 5: I've heard crocodile tears a lot over the past day
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Speaker 5: in reference to that display.
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Speaker 4: I think they were genuine for himself, absolutely, And while
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Speaker 4: he's the backlash.
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Speaker 5: She's faced rightly, and I don't think he's going to
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Speaker 5: necessarily see those figures once this circus show has rolled on.
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Speaker 5: People were just tuning in to see how he handled
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Speaker 5: the apology.
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Speaker 7: I didn't make it well.
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Speaker 6: I love that they were all these celebrities who were
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Speaker 6: canceling their Disney subscription like online and showing people, and
31:41
Speaker 6: I think when you see Cynthia Nixon is one of
31:43
Speaker 6: the people doing that, I mean, honestly, she is the worst.
31:46
Speaker 6: Miranda was the worst character and sex in the city
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Speaker 6: by a long shot.
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Speaker 7: They should have killed her off season.
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Speaker 4: Wild agree, especially in the spinoff.
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Speaker 6: I wish I haven't even watched this. I'd save yourself.
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Speaker 6: I couldn't bring myself about. You know, as soon as
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Speaker 6: Cynthia Nixon's there, you know exactly what you're getting. But
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Speaker 6: I'd be interested to see how many subscriptions Disney did
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Speaker 6: actually lose versus how many these people are now going
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Speaker 6: to reinstate their subscriptions. I think you're one hundred percent
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Speaker 6: right Car that these numbers are going to go back
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Speaker 6: to pre cancelgate, kimmelgate, whatever you want to call it, numbers,
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Speaker 6: because his numbers were so low they were tanking and
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Speaker 6: this is like the best publicity this guy's ever had,
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Speaker 6: and so I think it's.
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Speaker 5: Going to be about When I was on the Late
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Speaker 5: Debate last week, as much as I disagreed with the
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Speaker 5: disingenuous way that he tried to smear MAGA with this
32:36
Speaker 5: with the death of Charlie Kirk, with the murder of
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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk, I didn't agree with taking yanking him off
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Speaker 5: fair because that makes him a martyr.
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Speaker 4: And that's what we've seen.
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Speaker 5: I mean, the amount of tears from the left over
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Speaker 5: this guy's cancelation for one week compared to how they
32:54
Speaker 5: treated the assassination of a young father of Charlie Scus
32:58
Speaker 5: tells you everything you need to know about them.
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Speaker 2: But it's so hypocritical. And this is what just gets me.
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Speaker 2: The left invented cancel culture. How many conservatives have they canceled?
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Speaker 2: On my show on Sunday, I had Graham Linehan, who
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Speaker 2: is the writer of The It Crowd and of Black Books.
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Speaker 2: He came out against transgender people being able to take
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Speaker 2: over women's spaces about seven or eight years ago and
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Speaker 2: got completely blacklisted from the mainstream entertainment industry. They did
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Speaker 2: the same thing to JK.
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Speaker 4: Rowling.
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Speaker 2: They do the same thing to any celebrity that comes
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Speaker 2: out as conservative, but it is a covert authoritarianism, so
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Speaker 2: it's never out there. It's always just subtle cancelations slowly
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Speaker 2: icy out and then when Jimmy Kimmel gets pulled off
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Speaker 2: for one week for clearly being out of line, he's
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Speaker 2: the biggest martyr since JFK.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane.
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Speaker 5: It's free speech, but only if it's speech they agree
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Speaker 5: with absolutely protect.
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Speaker 6: That's right and speech without consequence. So coming up, there's
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Speaker 6: an article as well out today with regards to the
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Speaker 6: NDIS now. I read in the article with interest that
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Speaker 6: the CEO said that the reports that parents spend a
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Speaker 6: lot of money on and provide to the NDIA and
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Speaker 6: the NDAs for their children or their family members plan
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Speaker 6: were not read well. That was a question I asked
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Speaker 6: the CEO in one of my last Senate estimates. What
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Speaker 6: happened with all the reports that then planners were turning
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Speaker 6: up to meetings and having absolutely no idea what the
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Speaker 6: child or the participant actually require. So the government has
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Speaker 6: now said that these will now be bought in house
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Speaker 6: into the agency and they will be done by independent assessments,
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Speaker 6: which to use the term an internal assessor, which is
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Speaker 6: exactly the same as independent assessments, which is what Linda
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Speaker 6: Reynolds tried to bring in when she was the NDAs minister.
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Speaker 7: Now she had picked them up from Stuart Roberts.
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Speaker 6: They were pretty poorly designed at the time, and I
34:53
Speaker 6: could understand why people were outraged because there was very
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Speaker 6: little difference between a physical disability and an selecxual disability
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Speaker 6: being recognized in these assessments. But yet again we're saying
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Speaker 6: the government creating its own test that's completely new.
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Speaker 7: So the assessors are going to have to learn.
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Speaker 6: We don't know where they come from, we don't know
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Speaker 6: who they are, what their skills are, because can I
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Speaker 6: tell you when the planners say to parents, at what
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Speaker 6: age does your child grow out.
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Speaker 7: Of autism or down syndrome?
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Speaker 6: That tells you the level of skill experience these people
35:22
Speaker 6: have got at times.
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Speaker 7: And yet it's just going to cost more money to
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Speaker 7: the scape.
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Speaker 2: So what I'm confused about is there are what seven
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand people on the ndis roughly run about.
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Speaker 1: So is there going to be an internal.
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Speaker 2: Government's employed assessor who every year or every couple years,
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Speaker 2: will have to manually assess almost a million people.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know how it's won't be one person.
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Speaker 6: But that said, that says my son's had a plan
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Speaker 6: for six or seven years.
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Speaker 7: He has never met anyone from the agency.
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Speaker 6: Now, my reports that I submit and give through can
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Speaker 6: have all the information that they that you'd like to provide,
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Speaker 6: But if they met him, they would get a much
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Speaker 6: better understanding of what.
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Speaker 7: His needs actually are. So look, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: And this goes back to this scheme already is just
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Speaker 2: so bloated that any reforms are they really reforms? Can
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Speaker 2: we actually reform this thing? It's just a behemoth now. Well,
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Speaker 2: coming up after the break, we will give you tomorrow's
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Speaker 2: papers today, and we'll also tell you about the speech
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Speaker 2: that got the leaders at the UN to their feet.
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Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into the papers, Caroline. Starting with the Daily Telegraph.
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Speaker 5: Well, the Daily Telegraph has run very big on the
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Speaker 5: story about an ausy mum's speech at the United Nations
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Speaker 5: that had leaders up on their feet giving her a
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Speaker 5: standing ovation. And it also led to the EU present
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Speaker 5: and Ursula von Delay and backing the policy saying that
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Speaker 5: the UEU might try something similar to what Australia is
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Speaker 5: doing in terms of banning social media for children. So
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Speaker 5: a very positive response to this News Corp campaign let
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Speaker 5: them be Kids, and it's right across the front of
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Speaker 5: a lot of news court papers that Telly's also got
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Speaker 5: a story called pre Fabs hit the Wall, and this
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Speaker 5: is about how local councils have been stalling new modular
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Speaker 5: housing projects that the chris Min's government, the Labor government
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Speaker 5: here hopes will be a secret weapon in their battle
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Speaker 5: to beat the state's housing crisis. So this is prefabricated
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Speaker 5: methods that they're going to use on some new public
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Speaker 5: housing projects.
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Speaker 6: Do you know I actually these great little houses and
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Speaker 6: a lot of them are being used now for granny
37:54
Speaker 6: flats out the back of apartments. They're actually being used
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Speaker 6: by a lot of accommodation areas. Is putting tiny homes
38:01
Speaker 6: out and about there's a real purpose behind using these.
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Speaker 6: But here we go again, the councils, that extra layer
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Speaker 6: of government are going to get in the way and
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Speaker 6: make it more difficult because at the moment, if a
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Speaker 6: home is considered mobile, you actually don't need a DA
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Speaker 6: approval for it. But of course the councils will never
38:19
Speaker 6: miss an opportunity to click the ticket and of course
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Speaker 6: make it more and more difficult to get housing in
38:25
Speaker 6: areas where it could be really helpful really quickly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the frustrating thing about the whole
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Speaker 2: housing debate. Councils by their nature tend to be nimbi's
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Speaker 2: not in my backyard because there's really no upside for
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Speaker 2: them in building more homes. I mean, they don't win
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Speaker 2: any votes from it. Antidevelopment groups are often very strong
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Speaker 2: and all they'll do is frustrate residents. So you've now
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Speaker 2: got this situation where basically the Men's Labor government here
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Speaker 2: in New South Wales has been left with no options
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Speaker 2: but to really strip councils of a lot of their
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Speaker 2: planning powers put through more standardized processes, because if you
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Speaker 2: leave it.
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Speaker 1: Up to councils, nothing gets built.
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Speaker 2: And it's so frustrating because how are we ever going
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Speaker 2: to solve the housing shortage if we don't build houses
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Speaker 2: and they've got to go somewhere. And the reality is
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Speaker 2: people want to live near the city, they want to
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Speaker 2: live in a convenient location, so we should be building more.
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Speaker 1: I'm so with you on that.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if I've made that point, because
39:23
Speaker 5: I don't know if some places are getting too over developed,
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Speaker 5: and we do need to have some green spaces, including
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Speaker 5: in the city, and that's important. I empathize with the
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Speaker 5: government because they do need to find solutions too many,
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Speaker 5: don't you're.
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Speaker 6: Talking about No one's talking about how about we have
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Speaker 6: some regional center development. How about we actually move some
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Speaker 6: jobs and some opportunities out to areas that could deal
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Speaker 6: with growth, could deal with substantial increases in population, rather
39:50
Speaker 6: be able to the old people there as well. But
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Speaker 6: if you've got the jobs there, if you've got the
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Speaker 6: schools there, if you go out to some of the
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Speaker 6: bigger regional centers now they have really good big private
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Speaker 6: schools as well as public schools. They have good health facilities,
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Speaker 6: they have lots of opportunities for businesses, They have.
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Speaker 7: Lots of opportunities.
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Speaker 5: I tell you, we're getting a lot of people coming
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Speaker 5: in from overseas. Is that Andrew Hasty where we talked
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Speaker 5: about before, touched on and they don't want to live
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Speaker 5: in regional centers.
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Speaker 7: Well, that might want to be a lot of exity.
40:17
Speaker 6: That might be part of the maybe I'd not have
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Speaker 6: to be Maybe they die around the houses and build
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Speaker 6: the opportunities in regional centers.
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Speaker 7: And I mean in New South Wales.
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Speaker 6: We've always talked about New South Wales is New South Wales, Sydney, Wollongong,
40:29
Speaker 6: and we need to start looking beyond those three areas
40:31
Speaker 6: and that goes across the guy.
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Speaker 7: Queensland does it much better? Actually?
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Speaker 2: I think one of the challenges is that we often
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Speaker 2: lack the infrastructure connecting the regional centers to this city.
40:41
Speaker 2: And so if we did have faster trains so you
40:43
Speaker 2: could get to any of these regional cities within an
40:46
Speaker 2: hour and a half of the city, then it would
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Speaker 2: be awesome, but a massive, massive problem that we need
40:52
Speaker 2: to solve. In The Australian tomorrow, the headline is fears
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Speaker 2: over federal cash gap hit state labors Big Build rail project.
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Speaker 2: Confidential Big Build documents reveal concerns were breaking out among
41:07
Speaker 2: Victorian premieresinto Allen's top bureaucrats two years ago over the
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Speaker 2: risk to the suburban rail loop because of the Albanesi
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Speaker 2: government's failure to commit another nine billion.
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Speaker 1: Dollars to the project.
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Speaker 2: The Australian has obtained official records of dozens of suburban
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Speaker 2: rail loop into development committees that lift the lid on
41:28
Speaker 2: the urgency and challenge.
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Speaker 1: So basically, absolutely.
41:31
Speaker 2: Nothing new here other than Victorian labor running out of money.
41:35
Speaker 2: Thectorian labor can't build any big Victorian labor Christ poor
41:39
Speaker 2: too broke federal labor government.
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Speaker 6: Another day, and why the Victorian labor government paid a
41:47
Speaker 6: billion dollars to not build a road?
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Speaker 7: And you know, I mean, these guys are insane.
41:51
Speaker 6: Nobody seems to want this suburban rail loop project, yet
41:54
Speaker 6: they're determined to get on with it, whereas they probably
41:57
Speaker 6: have the worst connected airport to their capital city anywhere
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Speaker 6: I think I've ever been in the world.
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Speaker 2: So you know, it's the fact you still have to
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Speaker 2: take a bus to go from this from the airport
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Speaker 2: to the city is crazy. Why is that not the
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Speaker 2: rail loop that they're building, forget the suburban rail and
42:15
Speaker 2: what about the airport rails?
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Speaker 6: Look, they are just insane. And again, as I said before,
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Speaker 6: Victorian Labor is still ahead in the poll. So either
42:23
Speaker 6: something is completely wrong with the people that are doing
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Speaker 6: these polls, which I hope is the case.
42:29
Speaker 7: Maybe they've got freshwater strategy, but you know, let's.
42:33
Speaker 6: Just hope the people in Victoria start to wake up
42:35
Speaker 6: soon and they start to realize that this is doing
42:38
Speaker 6: indefinite damage to their state. But I think what's really
42:41
Speaker 6: disturbing moving to the Cans Post and the front page
42:44
Speaker 6: tomorrow is we've got a swim coach walks free after
42:48
Speaker 6: a judge spares a swimming teacher who pleaded guilty to
42:53
Speaker 6: sexually assaulting victims at his swim school, but rather than
42:58
Speaker 6: receive a custodial sentence after a letter from an Anglican pastor,
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Speaker 6: was given basically good behavior bond out into the community.
43:07
Speaker 6: I mean, what is the message that we are sending.
43:08
Speaker 6: Are we serious about crime in this country? Or are
43:11
Speaker 6: we just going through the motions. I cannot imagine sexually
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Speaker 6: assaulting or sexually but do you.
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Speaker 4: Think that it's said sexual I don't know what it's a.
43:22
Speaker 7: It's a sexual offenses. I mean, I don't know what.
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Speaker 6: The definition of sexual offenses, but it's obviously not it's
43:30
Speaker 6: not a positive experience for the child.
43:33
Speaker 5: In one of the cases, he's pleaded guilty to trying
43:37
Speaker 5: to procure a thirteen year old girl, well thirteen year
43:41
Speaker 5: old via the Internet for sexual acts and that was.
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Speaker 4: While he was on bail. How does someone like that
43:48
Speaker 4: escape a jail term.
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Speaker 6: But don't worry, We'll let him on social media. Don't worry,
43:51
Speaker 6: he'll escape a jail term and just go for his
43:53
Speaker 6: life on social media.
43:54
Speaker 7: I mean, it's these are the people. That's what some
43:56
Speaker 7: of them needs to be.
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Speaker 4: Our kids need to be kids media.
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Speaker 7: I know they are on the end, but don't worry.
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Speaker 7: If you're in Queensland, yeah, might go to jail.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's very sad, and I know the L ANDP
44:06
Speaker 2: government's trying to do a lot to crack down on it's.
44:09
Speaker 7: Not only well on you.
44:11
Speaker 2: So let's hope that they can address this loophole as well.
44:14
Speaker 5: But it's a magistrate issue too, and a judge issue because.
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Speaker 6: They're the one that's the revolting door exactly.
44:20
Speaker 4: Look, let's move on to the Gold Coast. Did you
44:23
Speaker 4: want to.
44:24
Speaker 5: Gold Coast where e bikes have taken over the streets
44:29
Speaker 5: of the Gold Coast. It's a shame we can't show
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Speaker 5: you the picture that's on the front page because there
44:34
Speaker 5: were thirty teens on e bikes swarming to the city.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I just love.
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Speaker 2: The front page front page news in the cans, post
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Speaker 2: e bikes swarming the streets super in the.
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Speaker 7: Gold Coast, it's normally a chicken a bikini.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
44:51
Speaker 2: Well, coming up after the break, We're going to show
44:54
Speaker 2: you Trump's latest trolling move, the new official White House
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Speaker 2: Portrait Gallery.
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Speaker 1: Guess what.
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's portrait is an autopen. You have to see it.
45:05
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
45:06
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, welcome back. Well, Trump has
45:13
Speaker 2: unveiled the White House's new Hall of Fame. It includes
45:18
Speaker 2: portraits of every past president as you can see there Obama, Bush,
45:26
Speaker 2: Trump himself and then oh that's Biden's portrait and it
45:32
Speaker 2: is an autopen and then back to Trump again. Now,
45:36
Speaker 2: this is just elite level of trolling from Trump. He
45:41
Speaker 2: just doesn't care. And that's what I think so many
45:43
Speaker 2: people love about Trump. No one else would have the
45:45
Speaker 2: audacity to do this. Could you imagine anyone doing that
45:49
Speaker 2: in Canberra at our Parliament?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not the troller.
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Speaker 4: He did it.
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Speaker 5: He did, he did, And I mean, obviously this is
45:57
Speaker 5: a nod to his law long articulated belief that Joe
46:03
Speaker 5: Biden wasn't really signing off on any decisions. And let's
46:06
Speaker 5: face it, he had a cognitive decline that was covered
46:11
Speaker 5: up entirely by the establishment, the people around, by all
46:15
Speaker 5: the mainstream media except many of us here at Sky
46:17
Speaker 5: News who talked about it, you know, infinitely on.
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Speaker 4: All the programs.
46:23
Speaker 5: So I think this was very clever of him, actually,
46:25
Speaker 5: and it totally fits within his character. Of course, the
46:28
Speaker 5: Democrats are completely offended by it, but just it's a
46:31
Speaker 5: pen like have a lot.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it was so apparent towards the end that
46:36
Speaker 6: Biden was using these kind of artificial you know, auto
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Speaker 6: pen you know, for those of us that have watched
46:42
Speaker 6: The West Swing, there was an episode where the President said, oh,
46:45
Speaker 6: you know, I want to sign all the Christmas cards myself,
46:47
Speaker 6: and they said, well, there's seventy thousand or them, and
46:49
Speaker 6: they were like, right, okay. Then Trump the other day
46:51
Speaker 6: said I don't ever use the autopen. Well, actually we
46:54
Speaker 6: might use it for a letter to a kid that
46:56
Speaker 6: writes in that's something nice, but you know, I'm not
46:58
Speaker 6: going to use the autopen in for pardons.
47:02
Speaker 2: Just the point I think, because of all the huha
47:04
Speaker 2: Trump has made about it, he could never use the
47:07
Speaker 2: autopen for anything because he's going to challenge all those
47:10
Speaker 2: executive orders and if they're found to be invalid, because.
47:14
Speaker 7: The autopen, all his.
47:15
Speaker 2: Will be as well, so you won't want to set
47:16
Speaker 2: that precedent. But the other thing Trump is doing that
47:18
Speaker 2: I love is the Secret Service is now investigating whether
47:22
Speaker 2: Trump was sabotaged at the UN You'll remember the escalator
47:27
Speaker 2: suddenly stopped when they got on, then the teleprompter wasn't working,
47:31
Speaker 2: and apparently the audio levels were down as well, So
47:35
Speaker 2: we'll see.
47:35
Speaker 4: It's all a bit too much of a coincident, too much,
47:38
Speaker 4: and Trump is too many things happening.
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Speaker 2: He's calling for arrests to be made, so we will
47:43
Speaker 2: see what happens.
47:44
Speaker 1: A developing story.
47:45
Speaker 5: Of course, he is onto something completely different and Quantus
47:49
Speaker 5: has given travelers the first taste of their new aircraft.
47:55
Speaker 5: It's touting this is something which is going to transform
47:58
Speaker 5: domestic travelers called the A three twenty one XLR a
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Speaker 5: bit of a mouthful.
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Speaker 4: But the problem with this airline.
48:06
Speaker 1: Sounds like Elon Musk's Sunset, one.
48:09
Speaker 5: Of his many children's names, is that the problem that
48:13
Speaker 5: people have with this is that there are only two
48:16
Speaker 5: toilets on the entire and the entire economy cabin, so
48:21
Speaker 5: for one a toilet to passenger ratio of one.
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Speaker 4: To eighty eight people. Can you imagine the nightmare it
48:29
Speaker 4: would be.
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Speaker 5: Especially the mom of small kids to have to wait
48:34
Speaker 5: if there are eighty seven other people in front of
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Speaker 5: me for the one toilet and.
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Speaker 7: You can just imagine the queue going down the aisle.
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Speaker 6: Bit what I has never ceased to amaze me is
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Speaker 6: people sitting at the gate waiting to board their flight,
48:47
Speaker 6: and particularly when it's a flight to canber And I
48:49
Speaker 6: used to do a lot of regional flight city regional
48:51
Speaker 6: center flights.
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Speaker 7: They're like fifty minutes and like, seriously, do you really
48:55
Speaker 7: need it? Like, hang on, crostyr legs.
48:58
Speaker 2: Holly, what happened in Bangkok? Tell us about this crazy vision.
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Speaker 6: It's just insane. You've just got to have a look
49:05
Speaker 6: at this. It's almost unbelievable. A nine hundred square meter
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Speaker 6: sinkhole just appeared in the middle of a Bangkok street
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Speaker 6: and one end of it was a hospital and at
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Speaker 6: the other end was a police station.
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Speaker 7: And I mean no one was killed. It's just miraculous.
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Speaker 2: And three vehicles and it could have ended so so badly. Well,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us on the Late
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Speaker 2: Debate or Special Edition Ladies Debate tonight.
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Speaker 1: Up next is The Rita Fanny Show.