Latest / Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott / The "Right To Try Act 2.0"
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- 0:00Speaker 1: As promised, we have with us Kendra Riley. Kendra is
- 0:04Speaker 1: a business owner. She's the mom of three girls, two
- 0:06Speaker 1: of whom were diagnosed with a condition called MLD. She'll
- 0:11Speaker 1: explain in a few moments back in twenty twenty. See
- 0:15Speaker 1: she has since become an advocate for other rare disease
- 0:18Speaker 1: families like hers across the nation. Kendra, welcome to the program.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Tell us about MLD and your daughters.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. So, MLD quite a rare
- 0:31Speaker 2: terminal illness. And in twenty twenty when we got our
- 0:34Speaker 2: first daughter's diagnosis, no treatment, no cure, average lifespan of
- 0:42Speaker 2: age six, and we found out when she was a
- 0:44Speaker 2: year and a half. It's very aggressive, so within the
- 0:48Speaker 2: first ninety days of diagnosis she lost the ability to walk,
- 0:52Speaker 2: then talk, then tube fed. Fast forward to today, she's
- 0:57Speaker 2: now eight years old and in hospice, whereas our second
- 1:01Speaker 2: daughter that got diagnosed that same year, had a very
- 1:04Speaker 2: different outcome.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Tell us why.
- 1:08Speaker 2: We actually found out that there was a experimental gene
- 1:13Speaker 2: therapy treatment only available in Milan, Italy, that could potentially
- 1:18Speaker 2: save her life. It couldn't work for our first daughter
- 1:21Speaker 2: because she was symptomatic and they've already tried in clinical
- 1:24Speaker 2: trials and it didn't work. But our other daughter was
- 1:27Speaker 2: a newborn at the time and not yet symptomatic. Come
- 1:30Speaker 2: to find out, under the original Right to Try law,
- 1:34Speaker 2: we could not get this treatment in the US, and
- 1:38Speaker 2: we had one month's time to raise half a million
- 1:40Speaker 2: dollars and move our family to Italy during the pandemic
- 1:43Speaker 2: to get her this treatment. So we did just that
- 1:47Speaker 2: and she became the thirty second child in the world
- 1:49Speaker 2: to have it, and she's now a happy, healthy six
- 1:52Speaker 2: year old.
- 1:54Speaker 1: That is amazing news. You are right now living the
- 2:00Speaker 1: example though, of a before and and after and a
- 2:05Speaker 1: difference that a treatment can make. Why is it that
- 2:10Speaker 1: a treatment like that is not available in the United States?
- 2:15Speaker 2: Great question, And you know, science and technology is moving
- 2:19Speaker 2: so much faster, much faster than the speed of bureaucracy
- 2:23Speaker 2: would but it was questionable. Why you know, in America
- 2:28Speaker 2: we can't have access to something that could potentially save
- 2:30Speaker 2: our life. Still that question baffles me. But I know
- 2:34Speaker 2: so many more gene therapies are coming out that are
- 2:37Speaker 2: tailored to people's DNA like this one. So hopefully with
- 2:41Speaker 2: Right to Try two point zero, this will change all
- 2:43Speaker 2: of that and any rare disease patient can get access
- 2:46Speaker 2: to a potentially life saving treatment.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Before we get to that, let let's talk about right
- 2:51Speaker 1: to try the first version. Where did it fall short?
- 2:55Speaker 1: What was the intent and what ended up happening and
- 2:59Speaker 1: why did it fall short?
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great, and it was to help families
- 3:06Speaker 2: like ours and patients like my daughters who can have
- 3:09Speaker 2: a chance and a little bit of hope instead of
- 3:11Speaker 2: heartbreak when it comes to a fatal diagnosis and having
- 3:16Speaker 2: an opportunity to live a little bit longer, if not,
- 3:18Speaker 2: you know, live a full life. But unfortunately, it just
- 3:22Speaker 2: didn't cover these very specific treatments tailored to someone's DNA
- 3:27Speaker 2: because I mean really, they weren't around at that at
- 3:29Speaker 2: that time. So fast forward to twenty twenty six and they,
- 3:35Speaker 2: you know, they've realized, Wow, we really do need to
- 3:37Speaker 2: include something like this because it's becoming more and more
- 3:40Speaker 2: common for rare to these patients to be able to
- 3:42Speaker 2: have these treatments.
- 3:44Speaker 1: If you're a parent, a grandparent, this has to touch
- 3:47Speaker 1: your heart. Before we get to some of the politics
- 3:50Speaker 1: involved here and some of the questions I asked before
- 3:53Speaker 1: going to the break, Kendra tell Us tell us, how
- 3:56Speaker 1: care is processing the fact that she has been ostensibly
- 4:02Speaker 1: cured and her older sister is not.
- 4:06Speaker 2: You know, she's come to realize that she's gotten older,
- 4:09Speaker 2: kind of the process that we had to go through,
- 4:12Speaker 2: and so we've had to answer over time, you know,
- 4:14Speaker 2: why did I get the treatment and not Livy? You know,
- 4:19Speaker 2: what does every kid have MLD? Why did that kid
- 4:22Speaker 2: not get a treatment? So there's a lot of things,
- 4:25Speaker 2: you know, as kids grow up and they start realizing
- 4:27Speaker 2: what's going on and why do I have to go
- 4:29Speaker 2: back to Italy for checkups? So over time we've had
- 4:32Speaker 2: to kind of explain why Livy wasn't able to get
- 4:35Speaker 2: the treatment, why she was you know, and so often
- 4:39Speaker 2: she says, you know, I wish Livy got the treatment too,
- 4:42Speaker 2: so she could like play with us and go to school, YadA, YadA.
- 4:45Speaker 2: So you know, she's she's realizing more and more the
- 4:49Speaker 2: ramifications of what's happened to our family and what she
- 4:52Speaker 2: sees every day and why she's seeing it, and coming
- 4:55Speaker 2: to realize that her situation is very rare and not
- 4:57Speaker 2: every kid is like her. But to a lot of
- 5:00Speaker 2: her friends at school, you know, they have no clue.
- 5:02Speaker 2: They just think she's a normal six year old girls
- 5:05Speaker 2: because she has zero symptoms. So it'll be interesting as
- 5:08Speaker 2: she continues to develop and how that impacts you know,
- 5:13Speaker 2: how that will be impacting her and maybe even what
- 5:16Speaker 2: she does in the future.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Kendra, I mentioned my visit with a regular doctor that
- 5:22Speaker 1: we have on the program who has been in the
- 5:24Speaker 1: cancer field for his entire career and is retired. But
- 5:27Speaker 1: he talked about how, you know, with the geoblastoma development,
- 5:33Speaker 1: and I asked him if that development, which was done
- 5:35Speaker 1: at Shan's Hospital at the University of Florida, if that
- 5:38Speaker 1: was going to be for example, shared with, say the
- 5:42Speaker 1: Saint Jude's Children's Hospital. He said, inside the United States,
- 5:46Speaker 1: those types of treatments are shared widely, that there's always collaboration.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Is the treatment for MLD is it being shared or
- 5:55Speaker 1: is it still only found in Italy?
- 5:59Speaker 2: Yes, it is being shared. So it was first approved
- 6:03Speaker 2: in Europe, and then my family as well as other
- 6:07Speaker 2: families who have benefitted from this treatment did testify with
- 6:11Speaker 2: the SDA. We got it FDA approved a few years ago,
- 6:15Speaker 2: and then just in December twenty twenty five, we went
- 6:18Speaker 2: to DC and Secretary Kennedy did add MLD to nationwide
- 6:23Speaker 2: recommended newborn screening. So that'll make a huge difference for
- 6:26Speaker 2: families because now they'll know right when their child's born
- 6:29Speaker 2: that they have it and can immediately get them this
- 6:32Speaker 2: treatment which is now being given at multiple hospitals across
- 6:36Speaker 2: the nation.
- 6:37Speaker 1: So let's talk about the unfortunate politics that's involved in
- 6:41Speaker 1: this journey here. You mentioned we're at the second effort
- 6:45Speaker 1: on the right to try. Who's behind the effort in Congress?
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was introduced by Senator Ron Johnson from
- 6:52Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Representative Danna Harshburger from Tennessee.
- 6:56Speaker 1: And what's the pathway? Where is it in the process?
- 7:00Speaker 1: What needs to happen? Is it getting bipartisan support? And
- 7:04Speaker 1: by bipartisan I live in that world every day with
- 7:07Speaker 1: doing this show. I'm not talking one person on the
- 7:09Speaker 1: other side of the aisle. Is this getting full support
- 7:12Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle?
- 7:15Speaker 2: Yes, so far. So when they first reformed the bill,
- 7:18Speaker 2: that was in twenty twenty one, when our family got
- 7:20Speaker 2: back from Italy and they said, you know, you've inspired
- 7:23Speaker 2: us to make some changes here because we realize where
- 7:26Speaker 2: science is moving. So I did share my story, our
- 7:29Speaker 2: girl's story at the Arizona State Capital first where it
- 7:33Speaker 2: was initially passed, and it's now passed in seventeen other states,
- 7:38Speaker 2: and then it's just got introduced to Congress earlier this month.
- 7:42Speaker 2: So far, in all the states that have passed it,
- 7:44Speaker 2: it's been a pretty unanimous yes. Most people don't see
- 7:50Speaker 2: why we wouldn't make this change and help people save
- 7:53Speaker 2: their own lives.
- 7:56Speaker 1: What can people listening to the program do to help
- 7:59Speaker 1: this produces sess?
- 8:01Speaker 2: I would say, you know, right to your state representatives
- 8:04Speaker 2: in Congress, let them know how important this is. Hearing
- 8:09Speaker 2: stories like ours that are first person from families and
- 8:13Speaker 2: kids that are dealing with this and could potentially have
- 8:16Speaker 2: their life saved from a treatment that they'll now be
- 8:19Speaker 2: able to get in the United States will make a
- 8:21Speaker 2: big difference. It's all about hearing those stories.