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Signal 99 on with Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's up on her site on Facebook. I recommend you
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Speaker 1: follow her if you care about matters going on and
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Speaker 1: the shenanigans going on around downtown Cincinnati or Cincinnati generally speaking,
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Speaker 1: the person to follow is a Signal ninety nine. She's
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Speaker 1: got the feed from all the people with the inside scoop,
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Speaker 1: she's got whistleblowers, and she always brings the goods with
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Speaker 1: her to support the allegation she makes online welcome back
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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine. I wish you were here, but I
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Speaker 1: understand that what you weren't able to make. But it's
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Speaker 1: say okay, because you're right there on the phone.
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Speaker 2: Good morning. Yeah. I was kind of icky this morning
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Speaker 2: and I thought I didn't have a voice actually when
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Speaker 2: I called Joe at like one point thirty this morning.
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Speaker 2: So it's slowly coming back, but just letting you know.
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Speaker 2: I love Congressman Davidson, I know, and I have a
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Speaker 2: list of people that I would love to send to Iran,
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Speaker 2: but we could talk about that later.
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Speaker 1: I think we all have our list. It wouldn't take
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Speaker 1: long for me to fill out quite a few eight
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Speaker 1: and a half fi eleven sheets of paper with people
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Speaker 1: that like to go there, experience what life's like under
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Speaker 1: the Iitola and then come back here and be thankful
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Speaker 1: that we live in America. Anyway, I tell you what.
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Speaker 1: I could just go into any of the various topics
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Speaker 1: of some of them, which I rattled off before the break,
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Speaker 1: but I kind of want to make a dealer's choice.
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Speaker 1: What's really hot on your radar right now? Signal ninety
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Speaker 1: ninety you want to talk about here on the fifty
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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Well, can we start with the Cincinnati Fire Department? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: let's do that, Okay, So let me just preface this
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Speaker 2: by saying, we love the Cincinnati Fire Department. These men
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Speaker 2: and women do a phenomenal job every single day, and
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Speaker 2: we're grateful for them. But you know, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you caught the video of the Public Safety Committee
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Speaker 2: meeting a couple of days ago with Chief McKinley answering questions,
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Speaker 2: but I can't count the pinocchios. Okay. There were so
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Speaker 2: many pinocchios and his answers that I got a little
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Speaker 2: bit feral. So I had to do a screen recording
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Speaker 2: of that and post it, and I think I wrote
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Speaker 2: like a novella about it, calling out everything that he misrepresented.
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Speaker 2: It's insanity to me that he thinks nobody's going to
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Speaker 2: fact check this well and me crazy?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that was going to be my question, which
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Speaker 1: is Okay, beyond the general accusations of basically lies, Pinocchio
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Speaker 1: is of course translated into lies, that person spoke, misspoke,
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Speaker 1: or said the wrong thing. Why would anyone do that?
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Speaker 1: To what end would someone lie? In what particular context?
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Speaker 1: Would would it? Would you think it would benefit him
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Speaker 1: to say something that is demonstrably false.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot of leaders get away with
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Speaker 2: it every day, Brian. If they didn't do it, we
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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have much content on our page. Actually, I
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Speaker 2: mean we'd have some means and and you know, some
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Speaker 2: touchy feely stuff, but calling him out, blowing them up,
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Speaker 2: we wouldn't have that much. If people told the truth
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Speaker 2: and were transparent and had actual integrity, Okay, would probably
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Speaker 2: be boring.
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Speaker 1: That is fair enough. I'll tell you what possible we'll
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Speaker 1: bring back. We'll talk about some of the details about
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Speaker 1: which the Chief McKinley well prevaricated on, along with a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch more, including the antics involving Judge carry Bloom
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Speaker 1: and Connie Hamil Canny Prosecutor Connie Pillage. That one's crazy
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Speaker 1: signal and I'm looking forward to that discussion as well.
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Speaker 1: Folks can stick around. We'll continue with signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 1: I'll start with foreign Exchange, where I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: about KRCD talk station signal ninety nine on the program
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Speaker 1: this morning, talking about local. But I like to call
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Speaker 1: Shenan again before we pivot away from Chief McKinley in
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Speaker 1: his testament of the other day, what did he lie
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Speaker 1: about specifically? Got you hot and bothered? Dave? Signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, when Scottie Johnson asked him, Hey, how are
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Speaker 2: you How are we doing with personnel? Are we fine?
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Speaker 2: Or do we have a lot of you know, work
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Speaker 2: ahead of us? As far as the compliment, the compliment
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Speaker 2: is the number did you need to have to operate
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Speaker 2: safely like the police?
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Speaker 1: We don't have. We don't have a full compliment of
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Speaker 1: police officers there you go, same thing going on in
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Speaker 1: the fire department, maybe correct, so you know.
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Speaker 2: Their complement is down. And McKinley said, oh no, you know,
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Speaker 2: Cheryl Long and I have discussed this and me and
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Speaker 2: Sheral Long and we're fine where we're at fine, he said,
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Speaker 2: We're fine. That's an exact what We're fine. We're not fine.
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Speaker 2: We're not anywhere close to fine. They're running overtime on
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Speaker 2: medic units. They've taken five medic units and broke them
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Speaker 2: down to be basic life support instead of advanced life
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Speaker 2: support because they don't have enough paramedics to stay them.
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Speaker 2: He lied about adding a second heavy rescue that's not true.
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Speaker 2: That was added under Chief Michael Washington years ago, long
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Speaker 2: before Wu Tang Frank blew into Cincinnati. So, and I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you know the Wu Tang reference, but
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Speaker 2: he's a big Wu Tang fan. And his license plate
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Speaker 2: says Wu Tang Won on it, I think is what
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Speaker 2: it was or eleven. Yeah, so yeah, so I call
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Speaker 2: him Wu Tang Frank. He probably does not like that,
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Speaker 2: but I probably don't lose any sleep over that.
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Speaker 1: I know you don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he just you know, he just lied about
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Speaker 2: so many things, and I broke them all down in
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Speaker 2: the post on Signal ninety nine, and I actually I listened,
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Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing, and then I went, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is an accurate, This is an accurate, This is
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Speaker 2: an accurate. This is an accurate. So I reached out
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Speaker 2: to some of my CFD homides uh and I said, hey,
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Speaker 2: can we confirm this is not correct? And yeah, check them,
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Speaker 2: check them all off right down the line. Boom boom,
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Speaker 2: boom boom. So got a bunch of facts to back
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Speaker 2: that up. The previously in twenty I believe it is
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Chief Washington asked that smoke detectors and
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Speaker 2: batteries be put in the running budget to be continual
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Speaker 2: every year, and City Manager share Al Long told them
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Speaker 2: that's not possible. We don't have the money for that.
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Speaker 2: But now that fire fatalities are up five hundred percent
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Speaker 2: this year alone, now we have the money for that.
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Speaker 2: So that's interesting to me when you know, if we'd
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Speaker 2: had the money for that last year and the year before,
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Speaker 2: the people may have had smoke detectors that worked this year.
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Speaker 1: So you know, they're talking about providing now three smoke
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Speaker 1: detectors and batteries to what all the residents of the
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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati signal.
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Speaker 2: Who needs them? Yeah, yeah, the residents that need them,
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Speaker 2: and the CFD installs them so they make sure that
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Speaker 2: they're installed properly, that they're working. When they leave, they
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Speaker 2: also do safety checks. These are all things that the
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Speaker 2: city's provided for a very long time when they have
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Speaker 2: the budget that allows that. Now, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: we have the budget for it. I find that interesting
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Speaker 2: well too. But I do have I have five questions
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Speaker 2: that I would love for the media to ask the
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Speaker 2: city and the Chief of the CFT how much money
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Speaker 2: has CFD spent on smoke detectors in so still years
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, and twenty twenty six, respectively.
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Speaker 2: Question two, how many smoke detectors were actually installed? Question three?
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Speaker 2: Which neighborhoods were they installed? In? Question four? Which funding
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Speaker 2: source did the money come from? And question five, my favorite,
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Speaker 2: can you provide copies of purchase orders buying said detectors
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Speaker 2: and batteries that are dated and signed by a procurement
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Speaker 2: official for twenty four, twenty five, and twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: So those are the questions I'm throwing out there right
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Speaker 2: now to Chief McKinley and to share along. Cough it up.
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Speaker 2: If everything you're saying is true, show us the receipts.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm still struggling with a concept smoke
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Speaker 1: detectors and life saving they are, you know, as someone
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Speaker 1: who would be worried about a fire and would like
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Speaker 1: to have their life saved, I think I would probably
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Speaker 1: be able to find the fifteen twenty bucks that you
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Speaker 1: need to go to the home depot buy a damn
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Speaker 1: smoke detector on your own. I mean, that's not out
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Speaker 1: of the reach of the vast majority of the people
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Speaker 1: in the world, and I would think just you know,
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Speaker 1: logic and common sense would dictate you might want to
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Speaker 1: put that pretty high in your allocation of funds left.
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Speaker 1: But just that we actually buy and pay for smoke
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Speaker 1: detectors and batteries regularly for folks, I'm sorry, I just
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Speaker 1: struggle with that conceptually.
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Speaker 2: Well, you got to understand there's a lot of grants
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Speaker 2: out there that cover that type of stuff, and being
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Speaker 2: the size that the city is, I'm sure they have
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Speaker 2: several grant writers. They could be getting all that money
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Speaker 2: for free. So they probably also have deals with manufacturers
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Speaker 2: that they can make buy in bulk amounts of smoke
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Speaker 2: detectors and batteries. I mean, there's all kinds of things
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Speaker 2: that they can do. The most important thing for me
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Speaker 2: is they knew about this winter storm that was coming. Yes,
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Speaker 2: we all knew, we all knew about the arctic temperatures
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Speaker 2: that were coming. Most cities will open warming shelters for
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Speaker 2: the people that have no power or have no home
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Speaker 2: right okay, to the people that can't afford to heat
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Speaker 2: their homes. Most cities will offer those tip proof, childproof
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Speaker 2: space heaters. So you might have to put all the
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Speaker 2: family in one bedroom and turn a space heater on.
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Speaker 2: You're only going to get one, but it's better than
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Speaker 2: turning your oven on and leaving it open and burning
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Speaker 2: your house down. Call me crazy. We have to anticipate
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Speaker 2: that that's going to happen every winner when we get
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Speaker 2: into those frigid temperatures. That's common sense. Everybody knows that,
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Speaker 2: and especially people in the fire industry.
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Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. I hear where you're coming from.
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Speaker 1: And oh, look, fatalities are up dramatically just this beginning
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Speaker 1: of the calendar year, almost as many as a full
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Speaker 1: calendar year last year. Signal ninety night, let's pause, bring
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Speaker 1: it back. I want to talk to you about what
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Speaker 1: happened with the prosecutors Lina Scott and Judge Carrie Bloom
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Speaker 1: and Connie Pillach's reaction to the whole situation. This is
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Speaker 1: going to blow a lot of people's minds. I do
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Speaker 1: believe against station seven fifty five KR seed talk station
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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine in the program. And let's putting over
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Speaker 1: to the Prosecutor's office and Judge Carrie Bloom and of
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Speaker 1: course assistant Prosecutor Linda Scott. Linda Scott, doing her job
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Speaker 1: as assistant prosecutor, appealed a ruling from Judge Cary Bloom,
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Speaker 1: and she had a back to field apparently appealed quite
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Speaker 1: a few of these different rulings. It's what you do.
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Speaker 1: If there's a bad he believed there's a bad decision,
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Speaker 1: you appeal it to the higher court. And in many
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Speaker 1: cases apparently Linda Scott won on appeal, which apparently irked
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Speaker 1: Judge Carrie Bloom, who accused her of being adversarial. That
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Speaker 1: was the accusation. And then, as I understand it, signal
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Speaker 1: ninety nine Connie Pilach got involved, and is it true
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Speaker 1: that she transferred Linda Scott to a different division after
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Speaker 1: this interaction.
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Speaker 2: So last year Administrative Juvenile Court Judge Carrie Bloom said
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Speaker 2: she didn't want Linda Scott in her courtroom anymore because
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Speaker 2: there was an adcessary relationship. Well, no, there wasn't. She
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Speaker 2: was just tired of losing and having her decisions overturned
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Speaker 2: at the appellate level. So that didn't happen. Bloom continued
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Speaker 2: to harp about it, continue to harp about it. So
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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, Pillage approached and I call
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Speaker 2: her the con Okay, I called Connie Pillage the Cohn.
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Speaker 2: She approached Linda Scott. She said, hey, we're transferring you
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Speaker 2: to one of these two divisions and you have to choose,
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Speaker 2: and you have two days to decide, and if you don't,
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Speaker 2: we're going to let you go. And she said, I
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Speaker 2: don't have any experience in these divisions, and why am
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Speaker 2: I being punnished for, you know, basically doing my job.
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Speaker 2: It was just yeah, it was just put to her. Period,
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Speaker 2: you're not going back into you know, to juvenile court.
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Speaker 2: So here's your choices. You have two days. Well, then
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Speaker 2: yesterday another assistant prosecutor struck up a conversation with Linda
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Speaker 2: Scott and told her, well, I think you did cause
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Speaker 2: a addentarial relationship in juvenile court. And Linda Scott said,
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Speaker 2: how do you figure? You know? I did my job right,
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Speaker 2: you know, she she does these inappropriate rulings and the
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Speaker 2: appellate court agreed with me.
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Speaker 1: Well she wait real quick here in terms of the
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Speaker 1: organizational structure, the Linda Scott, the prosecutor that appealed these
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Speaker 1: decisions in her eye, and of course the appellate Court's
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Speaker 1: eyes were inappropriate and overturned. Doesn't she work under Connie Pillaches?
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Speaker 2: She does?
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Speaker 1: Okay, now, paus pouts. That means either Connie Pillage knew
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Speaker 1: that these appeals were being filed or tacitly approved them
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Speaker 1: because of inaction. She didn't direct Linda Scott to not
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Speaker 1: appeal the decisions. All of this happened under her operational watch.
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Speaker 2: Correct, absolutely, okay, absolutely, you're right. So then after this
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Speaker 2: conversation happened between these two assistant Bronskuers, which did not
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Speaker 2: get heated. There was no unprofessional dialogue. This other assistant
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Speaker 2: prosecutor went to HR and claimed that Linda Scott was
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Speaker 2: disrespectful and unprofessional, and they fired her yesterday. She didn't
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Speaker 2: get a hearing, she didn't get any recourse whatsoever. They
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Speaker 2: just fired her. So I hope she's got a good attorney.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know she's a great attorney, but I
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Speaker 2: hope she gets an attorney. And as much as I'm
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Speaker 2: tired of paying taxes out through the nose because the
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Speaker 2: county wrote a check they can't cash with the Bengals, okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to pay more taxes for her to see
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Speaker 2: the hell out of the county. So I'm just going
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Speaker 2: to say that, well, I hope she does.
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Speaker 1: And this sounds to me remarkably similar to the other
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Speaker 1: lawsuits you're fighting right now, will be fighting list in
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Speaker 1: so far as the on leave chief of police. There's
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Speaker 1: no support for the termination. There's no demonstrable, you know,
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Speaker 1: misconduct on the job here. I mean to the extent
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Speaker 1: she had a conversation.
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Speaker 2: He said if she said, she said, and they they
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Speaker 2: didn't even give her a chance. But gone.
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Speaker 1: But this allegation of disrespect and unprofessionalism comes between. It
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Speaker 1: was was based on a discussion between two prosecutors. It
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Speaker 1: was correct, sort of like a side conversation that only
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Speaker 1: tangentially even related to the job of being a prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: which does include appealing decisions from judges.
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Speaker 2: Correct, Oh lord, that was yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So
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Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know right now. You know, when
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Speaker 2: judge Wendy Krost tells Connie Poet which she could jump through.
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Speaker 2: She jumps when Judge carry Bloom or Judge Silverstein or
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Speaker 2: Judge Branch or Judge Hathaway tell her to jump, Connie
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Speaker 2: Pillot jumps. She is doing the bidding of these judges
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Speaker 2: that are more concerned with being social workers than they
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Speaker 2: are being judges. And it's ridiculous because the two offices
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Speaker 2: should not be working together like that. No, it's a conflict,
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Speaker 2: a huge conflict. And I can tell you right now,
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Speaker 2: with Carrie Bloom on the bench and now Linda not
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Speaker 2: end Juvenile Court anymore, there's not going to be any
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Speaker 2: more appeals on Bloom's bad decisions. There's not going to
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Speaker 2: be any waves whatsoever. It's going to be whatever Bloom wants.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be business as usual. And Pilots is
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Speaker 2: going to bend the knee because she's terrified of these judges.
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Speaker 2: And that's a problem, Brian, that's a huge problem.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's misplaced terror, is lucn it's misplaced terror. Hell
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Speaker 1: does she have to be worried about judges? They don't
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Speaker 1: control whether or not she's elected. We do.
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Speaker 2: Well, now she thinks she's going to get primaried if
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Speaker 2: she doesn't bend the knee. So I'm just gonna say this.
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Speaker 2: Carrie Bloom is up for reelection this year, and Susan
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Speaker 2: Lucan is running against her. So if you live in
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Speaker 2: Hamlet the county and you want to actually see justice
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Speaker 2: happen in juvenile court, I highly suggest you vote for
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Speaker 2: Susan Lucat there's an endorsement, and give and so carry
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Speaker 2: Bloom the door.
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Speaker 1: There's an endorsement. We'll have more of these endorsements as
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Speaker 1: we get closer and closer in November. Reminding everyone the
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Speaker 1: importance of knowing before you walk into the ballot or
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Speaker 1: walk into a casture vote, please have a great understanding
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Speaker 1: of which judges are good and which ones you do
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Speaker 1: not want on the bench. Pause will bring signal ninety
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Speaker 1: nine back. After the top of our news, few more
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Speaker 1: things talked about, including Kevin Neary's murderer going free, among others.
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Speaker 1: Don't go away today, tough headlines coming up at the
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Speaker 1: top of the hour.
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Speaker 2: The news changes every minute.
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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRZ the talk station this sweeptain eight'll five
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Speaker 1: give up KRC the talk todation, Beyen times. We's never
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Speaker 1: done a very happy Thursday slash Friday Eve, and I
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Speaker 1: am enjoying as I always do, my conversations with Signal
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Speaker 1: ninety nine. If you're not familiar with her work, go
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Speaker 1: to Facebook and search for signal ninety nine and follow
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Speaker 1: her antics online. Rub people the wrong way quite often,
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Speaker 1: but quite often bringing things to our attention, like this
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Speaker 1: situation involving Prosecutor Pillage, Judge Carrie Bloom and assistant Prosecutor Scott.
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Speaker 1: So you summed it up real quickly here just to
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Speaker 1: put an exclamation point Signal ninety nine on the prior
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Speaker 1: topic before we went in to break. As you summed
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Speaker 1: up in your reporting on this of elected prosecutor Pillage
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Speaker 1: is allowing judges to dictate staffing decisions based upon whether
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Speaker 1: they feel challenged. Than the independence of the office is compromise.
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Speaker 1: If she's permitting reassignment in this case Prosecutor Scott, reassignment
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Speaker 1: or termination which she was terminated because the judge dislikes
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Speaker 1: appellate pushback, than the separation between the bench and the
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Speaker 1: prosecution is eroding in plain sight. In other words, Connie Pillach,
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Speaker 1: which is supposed to prosecute crimes and make sure that
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Speaker 1: judges render appropriate decisions, requiring prosecutors to appeal those decisions.
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Speaker 1: You're right, there is no more real this fundamentally just
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be no more prosecutions apparently, Signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 1: All judge has to do. That's one of these woke judges,
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Speaker 1: and you outline a whole bunch of them Bloom, Cross, Hathaway,
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Speaker 1: Silversteain Branch. They're just gonna get their way all the time,
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Speaker 1: knowing full well that nothing's gonna be appealed. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a lot of really bad decisions enshrined in criminal
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Speaker 1: law here, Signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we're seeing it, We've been seeing it,
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Speaker 2: and now it's only gonna get worse because once Connie
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Speaker 2: Pitts took off this, she got rid, immediately got rid
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Speaker 2: of a ton of veteran process sketers that were worth
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Speaker 2: their weight in gold, and then a whole bunch more
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Speaker 2: fled because they did not want to work for her.
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, what's the first case
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Speaker 2: Connie Pillot's ever prosecuted herself? Brian, No, No, never, No,
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Speaker 2: she just recently showed up.
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Speaker 1: Oh, she finally did.
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Speaker 2: For Jacob Goodwin. But she only showed up because a
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Speaker 2: reporter that talked to me at four o'clock in the
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Speaker 2: morning called Sharon Coolidge, her PIO, and said, hey, you
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Speaker 2: guys aren't even put in a notice that you're going
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Speaker 2: to appear on this. Are you not going to appear
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Speaker 2: on this? All the media is going to be there. Well,
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Speaker 2: Connie Pillets said, oh my god, all the media is
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Speaker 2: going to be there. I better go, I better go,
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Speaker 2: and we better you know, deny this, We better fight
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Speaker 2: this early release request. So she did. That's the only
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Speaker 2: case till it has ever prosecuted in her life.
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Speaker 1: Well, sadly, the voters knew that when they elected her.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that a shocking reality? I mean, it was widely circulated.
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Speaker 1: I mean she did have a challenger for prosecutors, widely known.
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Speaker 1: I knew it at the time. She was not an
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Speaker 1: experienced prosecutor. She didn't have the requisite experience one would
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Speaker 1: expect someone who's running for that office to have.
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Speaker 2: No, and she doesn't have the experience to stay in
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Speaker 2: the office. Because right now everything's a plea deal. Everything's
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Speaker 2: a plea deal. I'm not going to call her the
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Speaker 2: com anymore. I'm going to rename her the Princess and
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Speaker 2: the plea. So she just she can't handle the responsibility
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Speaker 2: that the office demands. She's afraid to go to trial.
21:43
Speaker 2: She's afraid to lose. She doesn't want to take that loss.
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Speaker 2: She's terrified she's not going to be endorsed for reelection.
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Speaker 2: So right now it's all about just take the plea.
21:55
Speaker 2: Take the plea. The problem is a lot of these
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Speaker 2: plea deals are murders.
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Speaker 1: Yes they're murdered. Well, okay, they got problem cause they
22:07
Speaker 1: got an indictment. The guys in front of a judge,
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Speaker 1: presumably they have sufficient evidence to convince a jury or
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Speaker 1: the try of fact to judge that there's guilty on
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Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt. You don't have it. You don't have it,
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Speaker 1: I mean, but you've got to move forward and try people.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't get a guilty verdict, sometimes not guilty.
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Speaker 1: That goes with the territory. There's some really damn good
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Speaker 1: defense attorneys out there that can create the illusion even
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Speaker 1: of reasonable doubt in the jury. It happens. So you
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Speaker 1: lost one, but you got to move forward with it.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. And look, I mean, I look at the case
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Speaker 2: with Kevin Nary Okay, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I always wanted to talk about that, so that's a
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Speaker 1: good pivot point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevinnary murdered, literally murdered by Earl Jones, which, by
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Speaker 2: the way, sidebar, I got two death threats this week
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Speaker 2: from Kevin Nary fans. So and then I got a
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Speaker 2: couple of people to squawk it about out how wrong
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Speaker 2: I was about the post. But I truly enjoyed the
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Speaker 2: death threats from Earl Jones's loved ones and homies, so
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Speaker 2: keep them coming because they don't bother me. But anyways,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Nary gets murdered. The jury finds him, finds Earl
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Speaker 2: Jones guilty, and they give him life without parole. Okay,
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Speaker 2: And he keeps appealing, keeps appealing, keeps the appealing, he
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Speaker 2: keeps losing his appeals. He comes up now, just this
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Speaker 2: month and Toohnnie's signed with the plea deal. Let's just
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Speaker 2: give him eighteen years and let's give him time served.
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Speaker 2: So he's got eight more years to do on murder,
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Speaker 2: on a racially motivated, premeditated murder. I'm sorry, eighteen years
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Speaker 2: isn't enough, and eight more years is certainly not enough.
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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous to me and she goes into this big
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Speaker 2: diet tribe of bet how the laws have changed, and
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Speaker 2: you know it would be hard to get another conviction. No,
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't. You have all of the evidence that came
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Speaker 2: through the first time at trial. You've still got the witnesses,
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Speaker 2: you've still got the detective. I mean, come on, it's
24:21
Speaker 2: just a lame excuse for I don't want to take
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Speaker 2: a chance and lose and look like the inep prosecutor
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Speaker 2: that I am. That's what it's all about. Huh, she's
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Speaker 2: a sinking shit.
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Speaker 1: Brian, Hey, what was that? Hold on? I just had
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Speaker 1: to hit the dump button on you.
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Speaker 2: On me.
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Speaker 1: Didn't you say the S word?
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Speaker 2: No, I said, she's a sinking shit.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, then I inadvertently it's you know, it's better
24:48
Speaker 1: to be safe than sorry Signal ninety nine, because I
24:50
Speaker 1: had someone very recently literally use the S word on
24:54
Speaker 1: the Morning show, which I can't I can't abide. So
24:56
Speaker 1: my apologies for folks out there like what happened. So
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Speaker 1: I just deleted a of minutes worth of your commentary
25:01
Speaker 1: leading up to what I thought was in an inappropriate
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Speaker 1: word use. And I know you well enough that I
25:05
Speaker 1: shouldn't have just sort of defaulted to hearing that. But
25:08
Speaker 1: in these days with modern discourse, quite often people sprinkle
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Speaker 1: their language with saucy FCC non compliant language. That was
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Speaker 1: what I thought was going on there, So my apologies
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Speaker 1: to you for that.
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Speaker 2: That's okay. I would never do that to you.
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Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. But then again, like I said,
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Speaker 1: my reaction is to hit it. In a minute. I
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Speaker 1: suspect something's been has gone awry here. But what was
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Speaker 1: the I mean, the Neary family pleaded with the judge
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Speaker 1: not to grant the plea deal, so they were upset
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Speaker 1: about it. What was the predicate for sort of unringing
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Speaker 1: the bell of a lifetime conviction? Was evidence? With hell?
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Speaker 1: What was the basis upon which they did that?
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Speaker 2: No, they you know, they tried to say that the
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Speaker 2: self defense laws had changed. You got to remember he
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Speaker 2: murdered this This nineteen year old kid, jumped in his
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Speaker 2: car that was idling with the door open waiting for him,
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Speaker 2: drove off and called nine to one one and said, hey,
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Speaker 2: I just shot but in self defense. Well, the jury
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Speaker 2: saw through that, the detective saw through that, everybody few
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Speaker 2: through it. So this time around, Connie Polst says, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, with some of the changes in our laws
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Speaker 2: with self defense, it would be hard to prove, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know that it was murdered. No, it wouldn't. You
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Speaker 2: still have the text messages, you still have all the
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Speaker 2: witnesses of you know, Kevin Neary's workplace where Earl Jones
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Speaker 2: showed up and tried to fight him and try to
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Speaker 2: get him fired. You you know, there's all these things,
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Speaker 2: there's all this evidence. It was. It was a solid case,
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Speaker 2: and they did their jobs and they put this guy
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Speaker 2: where he belonged, life without parole. But Connie Pillach she
26:46
Speaker 2: didn't want to She didn't want to gamble that. She
26:49
Speaker 2: doesn't want to take that loss. So she wasn't willing
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Speaker 2: to risk it. And and this isn't the first homicide
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Speaker 2: she's done this on. We're seeing that consistency in her
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Speaker 2: pleating down serious felonies. Why, I mean, look at Elwood Jones,
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Speaker 2: she didn't even try it. We'll go back against Selwood Jones. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, will this lat murderers walk free and give
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Speaker 2: lifetime without parole murderers, you know, eight more years to
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Speaker 2: do and they'll be young enough when they get out
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Speaker 2: to kill somebody else if they want to it just
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Speaker 2: it boggles my mind.
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I would want to know in what
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Speaker 1: way the laws Ohio self defense statutes have changed the
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Speaker 1: fact that it would impact this particular case. She did
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Speaker 1: not articulate or explain specifically what she meant by that,
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Speaker 1: saying only Ohio self defense statutes have changed, and the
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Speaker 1: new provisions will make it more difficult to secure a
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Speaker 1: new conviction against Earl Jones. What's specifically changed, given all
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Speaker 1: the witnesses and the specifics of the underlying fact set,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how any change in the self defense
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Speaker 1: so I might modify the outcome in front of a jury.
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Speaker 2: It wouldn't. That's the whole point. It wouldn't. The whole
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Speaker 2: thing is a big smoke show. It's like, oh no,
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Speaker 2: you don't understand. You know, we had to do this
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Speaker 2: to ensure we could put them away for eight more years.
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Speaker 2: First of all, who came up with eighteen years?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:19
Speaker 2: Second of all, what about the judge. The judge didn't
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Speaker 2: have to give him eighteen years. She could have.
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Speaker 1: Said, no, right, right, right, right right? That is an
28:28
Speaker 1: important thing.
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Speaker 2: Give them time served.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an important point. The judges do not
28:32
Speaker 1: have to agree with anything necessarily the prosecutor or the
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Speaker 1: defendant entered into They have their own discretion in that regard.
28:38
Speaker 1: She could have said, no, it's twenty or it's you know,
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Speaker 1: thirty or whatever. I mean, that's the judicial discretion.
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Speaker 2: He also didn't have to give them time served. Why
28:47
Speaker 2: did she give them time served? Judge Talent gave them
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Speaker 2: time served?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:52
Speaker 2: Why? I mean, who does this benefit? Certainly not the victim,
28:58
Speaker 2: not the family of the victim, not society. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I just can't wrap my head around it.
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Speaker 1: Brian, I can't either. I can't either. Well, we'll get
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Speaker 1: one more segment with you Signal ninety nine here this
29:12
Speaker 1: morning on the fifty five Krssey Morning Show, and I'll
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Speaker 1: look forward to that. Stick around. Be right back fifty
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Speaker 1: five KRC. It's eighteen here at above kr City Talk station.
29:27
Speaker 1: Ryan Thomas was Signal ninety nine again. Facebook's a place
29:29
Speaker 1: to find Signal ninety nine of the things that she
29:31
Speaker 1: reports and writes on which we're talking about here this morning,
29:33
Speaker 1: mostly involving well, like I said, I like to call
29:35
Speaker 1: it shenanigans, but I'm just I'm still swirling and reeling
29:40
Speaker 1: from that whole Connie Pillach terminating the prosecutor for literally
29:45
Speaker 1: no reason. Linda Scott no longer has a job because
29:48
Speaker 1: apparently she didn't get along with one of her fellow prosecutors,
29:50
Speaker 1: had a disagreement of about peeling poor judicial rulings. Side
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Speaker 1: nine nine. I didn't realize we had an obligation for
29:59
Speaker 1: the function of the prospect who's Alvis, to actually always
30:01
Speaker 1: get along with people we work with. Anyway, we got
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Speaker 1: three people cited this involving the Hamilton Kenny courthouse chaos melee.
30:09
Speaker 1: A fight broke out and I worked there for a
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Speaker 1: long time when I was younger, and I don't recall
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Speaker 1: this ever happening. Has this become a common occurrence because
30:15
Speaker 1: I know, I think that the judges are asking for
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Speaker 1: more security in the courthouse. What's the backstory on this?
30:21
Speaker 1: And where's your Shenanigan's declaration coming from on this one?
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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 2: Okay, First, they need to preface something by telling you
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Speaker 2: one of my screen names on Facebook is Sena Anagan.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that, you know, after my original account
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Speaker 2: got banned. But I just thought that's funny. So people
30:43
Speaker 2: call me Shenanigan. They used to perfect So this is
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Speaker 2: not new. This is something that's been happening more and
30:51
Speaker 2: more frequently. You know, the courthouse clears out, they start
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Speaker 2: fighting in the hallways, and pretty much nobody holds them accountable.
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Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you something. I understand. Tensions
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Speaker 2: are high when you have the victim's family and you
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Speaker 2: have the defendant's family and they're all, you know, looking
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Speaker 2: hard at each other and they're all upset. I nobody
31:16
Speaker 2: understands that better than people that work within the criminal justices,
31:20
Speaker 2: and they understand it. However, it's unacceptable to become violent.
31:30
Speaker 2: Silence is never the answer. You don't get a free path.
31:34
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else, that these judges would
31:37
Speaker 2: start holding every single one of them and contempt and
31:40
Speaker 2: throwing them in for thirty days. That would stop immediately, immediately.
31:46
Speaker 2: And you know, people keep reporting no officers were injured.
31:49
Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true at all. There were
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Speaker 2: several officers and deputies that were hit. There was a
31:56
Speaker 2: CPD officer that had to file a work comp claim.
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Speaker 2: So wherever they're getting their information, which I saw a
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Speaker 2: spokesperson say that no officers were injured, that's not true.
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Speaker 1: Well I read this morning that three people and one
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Speaker 1: juvenile were cited for disorderly conduct involving that melee. None
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Speaker 1: of them were cited for assaulting a police officer.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, why were they cited at all? Well, no,
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Speaker 2: they should have just immediately been sent straight to jail
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Speaker 2: or juvenile for contempt.
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Speaker 1: A court agreed that would be a great remedy and
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Speaker 1: it would serve as an illustration anybody else who might
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Speaker 1: consider fighting that you were going to go straight to
32:36
Speaker 1: the jail, do not pass go. That would abeviate some
32:39
Speaker 1: of the need to add additional law enforcement personnel if
32:41
Speaker 1: you have very strict judges. And this was done in
32:45
Speaker 1: the presence of law enforcement, wasn't it. I mean, weren't
32:47
Speaker 1: there like officers or or SHARE's deputies right there.
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Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you all county broadcasts went out that
32:55
Speaker 2: officers needed assistance. So everybody went, I mean, CPD went,
32:59
Speaker 2: all the sheriffs just went. There were several officers in
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Speaker 2: court from CPD, There were several detectives, there were court
33:08
Speaker 2: services people that are in playing clothes, and there were
33:12
Speaker 2: you know, keep the deputies in uniform. Of course, Yeah,
33:16
Speaker 2: I know, I know that other courtrooms were affected by
33:18
Speaker 2: it because their deputies had to secure the prisoner that
33:22
Speaker 2: they had in the courtroom at the time so that
33:25
Speaker 2: they could go help. So other courtrooms were affected by
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Speaker 2: it as well. It wasn't just Judge Winckler's courtroom, it
33:33
Speaker 2: was several courtrooms were affected. So this behavior is not okay.
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Speaker 2: It should not be condoned. And you want to nip
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Speaker 2: it in the butt, like stop this because it's become common.
33:46
Speaker 2: It's happened several times over the last year. It just
33:51
Speaker 2: put a stop to it.
33:52
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, but you got to pivot over to
33:54
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system at large. That's the point. People
33:58
Speaker 1: need to be punished when they commit crimes. If you
34:01
Speaker 1: stop punishing people and when they commit crimes, guess what
34:03
Speaker 1: word gets out. This is a soft on crime County.
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Speaker 1: You can get away with it. Look what Connie Pillach
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Speaker 1: is doing or not doing. Look what these liberal judges
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Speaker 1: are doing or not doing, as the case may be. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we need to stop this, and the way you stop
34:14
Speaker 1: it is get tough on it. That's how the criminal
34:19
Speaker 1: justice system works. Whether it's people fighting in the courtroom. Hey,
34:21
Speaker 1: you know ahead of time you're gonna get sent to
34:23
Speaker 1: jail or that you know, if you punch somebody or
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Speaker 1: shoot somebody, you know you're gonna do a hard stretch
34:28
Speaker 1: of time. That's the penalty you pay. Let the word
34:31
Speaker 1: get out.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but right now, you know Cincinnati crime pays.
34:37
Speaker 2: You don't do you don't do serious time unless you
34:39
Speaker 2: kill somebody. Well even then, g you might get a
34:42
Speaker 2: plea deal for eighteen years. Who knows, you know what else?
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Speaker 1: You know what else pays Signal ninety nine. Being in
34:50
Speaker 1: a in a position of leadership, Like if you're police chief,
34:53
Speaker 1: that's gonna pay. Like if you're the fire chief, that's
34:55
Speaker 1: gonna pay. Or if you were a prosecutor who was
34:58
Speaker 1: dismissed because well they just didn't get along, that's going
35:01
Speaker 1: to pay too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that all these lawsuits flying around and more
35:07
Speaker 2: to come. I guarantee you this is just the beginning.
35:10
Speaker 2: Oh you know, yes, it's just going to keep continuing.
35:15
Speaker 2: And the sad thing is that there are several judges
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Speaker 2: up for reelection this year, really hard left leaning judges
35:24
Speaker 2: that care more about social work than they do about justice,
35:28
Speaker 2: and they're running unopposed. They're going to be re elected.
35:33
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know what Hamilton County is doing,
35:37
Speaker 2: but they're not running anybody against these judges. And of
35:41
Speaker 2: course it's too late now, but what is happening like
35:45
Speaker 2: we're just going to give up, We're just going to
35:47
Speaker 2: say this is it. We're just going to have to
35:49
Speaker 2: live with, you know, lawlessness forever because we're just turning
35:54
Speaker 2: everything over to the extremely far left. I'll tell you something,
35:59
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with you, Democrat. I can't
36:02
Speaker 2: stand the far left and I can't stand the far right. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's no room for them in criminal justice. I'm sorry, there's.
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Speaker 1: Just not Well, you know what's frightening is it's either
36:14
Speaker 1: one there's a failure of party leadership. And this is
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Speaker 1: a county thing here, right, we're talking about These are
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Speaker 1: judges that are voted on the entire county. You stand
36:21
Speaker 1: a better chance as a conservative or Republican or somebody
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Speaker 1: who might make it on the pink slip in the
36:26
Speaker 1: county more so than the city. But if it's not
36:29
Speaker 1: just party leadership, can't go out. And maybe it's maybe
36:31
Speaker 1: it's that nobody that with the law a law degree
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Speaker 1: wants to even bother running for judge because they face
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Speaker 1: the criticism they face death threats, they face crazy people
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Speaker 1: beating each other up in the courtroom. You know what,
36:42
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sign up for that job, Signal ninety nine.
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Speaker 1: And maybe that's the sorry state of affairs we found
36:47
Speaker 1: ourselves in Hamilton County, that it's gone full woke. The
36:50
Speaker 1: woke people aren't going to get attacked. The Conservatives are
36:52
Speaker 1: people tough on crime, are ergo. No one wants to
36:55
Speaker 1: do that role. You think there's anything connected with that
36:57
Speaker 1: signal ninety nine or is just for want of party
36:59
Speaker 1: leaders to get people rounded up and to run for
37:02
Speaker 1: these uncontested positions.
37:05
Speaker 2: Well, I'll answer that in a second. The saddest thing
37:09
Speaker 2: for me is that many of these judges, prosecutors, sheriffs,
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Speaker 2: city council members, mayor they pander to the black community.
37:22
Speaker 2: They make all these promises and they use the black
37:26
Speaker 2: community to get themselves elected and re elected, and then
37:30
Speaker 2: you know what happens nothing crickets. Who are the people
37:34
Speaker 2: being victimized the hardest by violent crime in Hamta County
37:39
Speaker 2: and in the city of Cincinnati. I'll tell you it's
37:42
Speaker 2: the black community all day long. You know, these communities,
37:48
Speaker 2: it's not their fault. I mean Nobody told them, hey,
37:53
Speaker 2: if you keep voting this judge, and nothing's going to
37:57
Speaker 2: happen to these criminals when they come through the court.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's tragic to me that people don't understand
38:05
Speaker 2: that elections have confortation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah they do.
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Speaker 2: And I don't want to become Chicago and I don't
38:12
Speaker 2: want to become Portland. You know, it's just common sense.
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Speaker 2: What they're doing doesn't work, So stop letting them do it.
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Speaker 1: Full stop, exclamation point in bold and cavs Sigle ninety nine.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time on the show this morning. And
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Speaker 1: confirmation from someone I know is in the know. They
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Speaker 1: can't find folks to run Sadly, I know this firsthand.
38:34
Speaker 1: So maybe that is the sad reality we're living with.
38:37
Speaker 1: We can't find tough on crime judges to even run
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Speaker 1: that scary stuff