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FT at Dodgers camp: Clayton Kershaw, Evan Phillips · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: You missed the World Series last year? Yeah, what was
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  Speaker 1: it like though, because you're like, gosh, those are my
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  Speaker 1: guys out there.
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  Speaker 2: This was probably the hardest ten days I've experienced in
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  Speaker 2: pro ball.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome you back, live here to Campbell Back Ranch obviously
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  Speaker 3: a J. Prazinski, Lanaizzo here, and we follow up one
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  Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer with another one. Clayton Kershaw here now.
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  Speaker 3: Good to see you, even better to see you back
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  Speaker 3: as a Dodger uniform, in a Dodger uniform, And I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking he's going to leave, honest, honest for I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about this. It's synonymous, right, Clayton Kershaw, Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers, It's synonymous. There's no place I can imagine
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  Speaker 3: you being. And I know you want to finish your
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  Speaker 3: career here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think I think when I was younger,
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  Speaker 4: thanks for having me. First of all, good to see
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  Speaker 4: you guys, But I think, you know, when I was younger,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really put a lot of merit into it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was just like, I love being a Dodger.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great place to play. But now, like looking back,
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  Speaker 4: there's so many things that have to go right for you.
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  Speaker 4: To stay in one place for a long time, and
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  Speaker 4: so super thankful I get to be here again. And
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you look at what we're doing, obviously, signing
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  Speaker 4: all these incredible players and getting to be in the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs every year, getting to win last year, getting to
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  Speaker 4: be you know a small part of that. So it's
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  Speaker 4: just like, yeah, you're right, there's really not another place
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather be. And it's like family now and my
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  Speaker 4: kids expected, kids expect we're going. We're moving LA for
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  Speaker 4: the summer and all that stuff. So yeah, I can't
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  Speaker 4: imagine doing doing another place.
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  Speaker 1: Never they were talking about Texas and I know you're
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  Speaker 1: from Texas. You're an LA guy now. And he got
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  Speaker 1: your boy Stafford in LA. Did you talk him into
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  Speaker 1: staying because at one point they're like, oh, they're oh,
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  Speaker 1: then we re signed him, So you know you got your.
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  Speaker 5: Boy stay too.
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  Speaker 4: He keeps getting better too. He had a great right,
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  Speaker 4: he had a great year. I mean they were one.
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  Speaker 4: There are a couple of plays away from beating the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles there. So I'm happy that Matthew's back. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's fun to have another guy to root for in
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  Speaker 4: l A. And you know, I'm a Rams fan now.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Remember I met you the first time I ever met
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  Speaker 1: you off the field because we were in Detroit Lions
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  Speaker 1: were playing. You were down in the tunnel and I
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  Speaker 1: was there for the I think the playoffs, and I was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was walking on the field and you
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  Speaker 1: were like I was like, it was like you see
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  Speaker 1: someone out of place, right, You're like, wait a second,
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  Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, wait him and Stafford.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. So yeah, I mean, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: awesome for you. But you mentioned Freddie being a Hall
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  Speaker 1: of fam where you got Mooki, who's going to go
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  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame? Show, Hey is probably going
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  Speaker 1: to go in the Hall of Fame. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: You're going to go in the Hall of Fame. What's
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  Speaker 1: it like looking around this room thinking wow.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just I don't know about all that,
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  Speaker 4: but just the guys in our clubhouse that it's just
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  Speaker 4: an amazing thing to see the buy in. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's probably the biggest thing. You know, I think there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of superstar guys out there. And but you
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  Speaker 4: know those three that you mentioned, MOOKI, Show, Hey, Freddie
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  Speaker 4: are very I mean, you saw it last year. Just
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  Speaker 4: the unselfishness and like obviously they want to be in
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  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame and they're all stars and they
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  Speaker 4: want to do all that, but like it's all under
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  Speaker 4: the umbrella of trying to win the game that day.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think, you know, from what Freddie did
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  Speaker 4: in the playoffs to what Showhy did with his shoulder
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  Speaker 4: to Mooki spending hours and hours and hours to learn
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  Speaker 4: how to play shortstop for our team, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think that's that's what's so cool to be a part of.
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  Speaker 4: Is like all these guys are buying into something that's
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  Speaker 4: just bigger than themselves, which meant really cool.
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  Speaker 6: Churse.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Mooki, and this is a guy that does
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  Speaker 3: nothing badly. He doesn't do anything wrong. He's so gifted
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  Speaker 3: at so many different things. And his willingness to be
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  Speaker 3: coached and willingness to move positions, and I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: a gold glove right fielder and now he's in your
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  Speaker 3: infield a huge part of that. I mean, what does
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  Speaker 3: that say about a guy that's a two time World
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  Speaker 3: Series champion and three time? Now that's right because of
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  Speaker 3: obviously Boston first and then two with the Dodgers three
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  Speaker 3: times and he's saying, you know what, I'll move, I'll
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  Speaker 3: catch if you want me to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's it just goes to
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  Speaker 4: this team, you know, I think Mooki's bought in. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, Muki doesn't do anything bad. That's not
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  Speaker 4: an easy thing to do. Like, I can't imagine trying
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  Speaker 4: to play shorts up in the big leagues when you
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  Speaker 4: haven't done it. And as good as he is in
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  Speaker 4: right field, and you know, when you're that good of
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  Speaker 4: a player, why would you change anything? You know, But
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  Speaker 4: Mooki's up for the challenge, and Mooki knows that ultimately
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  Speaker 4: it could give us a lot more options down.
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  Speaker 7: The road for our team.
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  Speaker 4: And we're able to bring a guy in like Michael
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  Speaker 4: Confordo who's gonna, I think, have a really big year
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  Speaker 4: for us. And obviously we have Tao now. So it's
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  Speaker 4: just like it's just really made our team what it is.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, you can't say enough good things about Mookie honestly,
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  Speaker 4: Freddie Show, Hey, every all these guys, they're all they're
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  Speaker 4: all incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Best team I've ever seen assembled on paper. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: by far, I told a line I walked in to
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  Speaker 1: day and it's like starstruck. Everywhere you look. You're like, oh, wait, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he's decent. He's pretty decent.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that you've you've had some injuries.
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  Speaker 1: You were great forever and then you've had some injuries.
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  Speaker 1: How in Major League baseball, it's kind of become Garrett
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  Speaker 1: Coles more than likely out for the year with TJ, Right,
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  Speaker 1: how do we stop it? Because you were a guy
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  Speaker 1: that took the ball every fit day for for a
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many factors in that, right, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think first of all the older guys. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Garrett's obviously you know, he's right in the prime of
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  Speaker 4: his career the way he's throwing the baseball. So that's
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  Speaker 4: super disappointing, I know for baseball if that's true that
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  Speaker 4: he's out. But I think what we really have to
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  Speaker 4: focus on is these young guys. And I think the
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers are kind of about the epicenter of it. We
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  Speaker 4: had like four five of our studs go down last year,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and piecing it together in the playoffs, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can't say enough good things about who's
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  Speaker 4: stepped up, especially in our bullpen, you know, throwing those
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  Speaker 4: bullpen games to help us. But I think that's where
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  Speaker 4: we have to figure it out, as these twenty four
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  Speaker 4: to twenty five, twenty six year olds that are healthy
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  Speaker 4: in the minor leagues and then they come up to
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  Speaker 4: the big leagues and that's where they're getting hurt. So
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  Speaker 4: I know the Dodgers are on it. They're trying a
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  Speaker 4: lot of different things right now. They're thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of groups think tanks trying to figure
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  Speaker 4: it out. I mean, you know, you can say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we need to learn how to pitch again. We can't
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  Speaker 4: just throw a hundred the whole time. But players know
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  Speaker 4: you throw hard, you're going to make a team, you
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  Speaker 4: might get paid, all these things. And until there's like
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  Speaker 4: a philosophy shift where quantity matters, like two hundred innings matters,
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  Speaker 4: thirty plus starts matters. Again, I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 4: going to change unless teams change.
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  Speaker 1: What about the minor leagues though, yeah, because they throw
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  Speaker 1: once a week, right, So you came up in the
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  Speaker 1: minor leagues, mean you.
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  Speaker 5: Were there for like a day, so it wasn't like
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  Speaker 5: you were there.
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  Speaker 1: For years, but you know, you through every fifth day
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  Speaker 1: because in high school you pitch once a week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then you get college, you pitch once or you're
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  Speaker 1: the Friday guy. Go to the minor leagues, you pitch
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  Speaker 1: once a week, and then you get to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: You get to Dodgers and you're like, hey, when you
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  Speaker 1: just start Monday and then you got to start f
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  Speaker 1: four days after that and they've never done it in
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  Speaker 1: their life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think we're I think the Dodgers
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  Speaker 4: are going to change that a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 4: the guys are going to start throwing more in the
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  Speaker 4: minor leagues, and I think there might be something to
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  Speaker 4: be said.
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  Speaker 7: We're just throwing more, like some endurance based throwing.
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  Speaker 3: Not throwing on not one hundred miles an hour.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, like maybe just.
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  Speaker 4: Like building up your strength without throwing as hard as
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  Speaker 4: you can and just throwing more pitches, more throws and
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  Speaker 4: between starts. Like we've tried the less approach and maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's maybe we need to do the more approach, which
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  Speaker 4: it seems pretty oversimplified, and I know there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: more to it, but it's probably worth a shot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give it a bit of a puzzle. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to ask you too about the bullpen because you had
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  Speaker 3: mentioned obviously the arms down there, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a luxury when you have a starting staff that you
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  Speaker 3: guys do, but your bullpen is sick. And I looked
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  Speaker 3: at the you know, the lockers today when everybody there,
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  Speaker 3: and you're getting a lot of good guys back in
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  Speaker 3: kopic and trying, and obviously Evan Phillips is healthy making
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  Speaker 3: his way back. But then you add Tanner and then
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  Speaker 3: you add Kirby. You know, I mean, is this as
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  Speaker 3: good of a bullpen and starting staff and position players
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  Speaker 3: that you've seen in your time here?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like AJ said, on paper, it's it's
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  Speaker 7: pretty special. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Now we got to go play, obviously that's that's the
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  Speaker 4: biggest thing. But yeah, if you look at the back
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  Speaker 4: of the baseball cards of a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 4: it should be pretty special, you know.
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  Speaker 7: And now every year's different.
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  Speaker 4: You know, some guy that was good last year doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean they're going to be good necessarily this year. But overall,
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  Speaker 4: you got a bet on it. And like you said,
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  Speaker 4: the guys you brought in our bullpen, the guys we
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  Speaker 4: have coming back, even some of the young guys that
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  Speaker 4: are throwing the ball real well for us in the pen.
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  Speaker 4: So it's an exciting time to be a Dodger.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: We got a lot going on. There's a lot that
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  Speaker 4: can happen. But I think Andrew did a great job
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  Speaker 4: of I mean, we definitely have a surplus this year.
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  Speaker 4: If we didn't have it last year, we got a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when I got here over in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously you were you were here, and I remember going
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  Speaker 3: over to Australia and those types of things. And now
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  Speaker 3: you're getting ready to go to Tokyo and you know
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  Speaker 3: here you are many.
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  Speaker 5: You're going, You're gonna gone. Good for you.
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy it, but I mean, what would you have
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  Speaker 3: told your younger self? You know what you want these
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  Speaker 3: guys to to appreciate because it goes quickly.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's just it. You know, that's one
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  Speaker 7: of the reasons I'm going to Japan.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not obviously going to be active, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, taking the whole fam over there, we're treking
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  Speaker 4: all face.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't tell you weren't allowed to go, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: sneaking over there.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to have been in that meeting Brandon Gums,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, Kursh, I don't think you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to go to Japan with the team.
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  Speaker 5: I would have loved.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm excited I'm going to get to go.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, just Australia was really fun trip, Like I
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  Speaker 4: had a blast. The baseball part was a little rough,
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  Speaker 4: but hey, if you don't have to play baseball, guy
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  Speaker 4: as well, go I mean going with Can you imagine
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  Speaker 4: going to Japan with Show and.
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  Speaker 7: These guys. So it's gonna be it's gonna be fun
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  Speaker 7: to be a flying he said.
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  Speaker 1: A million people are expected when you guys land to
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  Speaker 1: meet your plane. Million people just to see you guys
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  Speaker 1: get off the airplane.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So before Japan hits in the next week, Doc had
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  Speaker 1: to get an extension. The rumors is done. So congratulations
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  Speaker 1: you got Doc. Yeah, three or four more years.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's great.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's done everything he's been asked to do,
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  Speaker 4: and obviously winning last year was obviously really important for
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  Speaker 4: for all of us, you know, and so it's we're
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  Speaker 4: happy for him. He's done a great job with this team.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, obviously you have a lot of talent.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of expectations. But it's not easy to
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  Speaker 4: manage all that. And there's a lot of stuff that
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  Speaker 4: goes into being a man.
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  Speaker 1: You mean, because everyone says like anyone could manage the
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  Speaker 1: dodgers of the talent, but I say, it's actually harder.
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  Speaker 7: There's a lot that goes in.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of and egos in a good way.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of egos. Oh you know, Oh Freddie,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna hit second. You know we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: show Hay lead off. We're gonna have Mookie hit second.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've hit second that you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things you have to curse. You know you're
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  Speaker 1: beat up a little bit. We're gonna skip you for this.
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  Speaker 1: It's better for the long haul, right, There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things that go into.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of first class problems for sure, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And he does a great job of managing it all.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, he's it's well deserved. So if it's true,
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy for him.
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  Speaker 3: I know one thing about you, and so you don't
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  Speaker 3: reflect on anything that you've done. You tell me when
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  Speaker 3: you're done. Maybe many years down the road that you
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  Speaker 3: will does the the strikeout total matter to you when
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  Speaker 3: you're healthy?
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  Speaker 5: You got me, you got me all.
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  Speaker 1: You know what we're gonna just no, you know he
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  Speaker 1: I faced you in LA and you threw me all heaters,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I wan face, I think. But
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  Speaker 1: so my first about I was like, all right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: waiting for this curveball, and I never and I got
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  Speaker 1: all heaters. You struck me out, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: so the next bout, you did it again. I got
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  Speaker 1: o tune. I actually hit a line drive and think
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  Speaker 1: I caught it, but I was like, I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: a curveball. I just wanted to think it was you
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  Speaker 1: verse Chris Sale, and I think Adam Done, who for
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  Speaker 1: some reason owned Jakes. He hit a homer and we're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh and you guys, this is what Sale was, youngster.
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  Speaker 1: But I just remember I didn't get a curveball last year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I was, but this is like twenty twelve, ten twelve. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm like, my.
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  Speaker 7: God, which wanted I just wanted to I'm glad I
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  Speaker 7: got you once.
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  Speaker 5: That's a lot of people got a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: guys got me once.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't want to like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to say I don't care, because it's obviously
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  Speaker 4: not very like the last one to do it with
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  Speaker 4: CC that was left handed, and I have a ton
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  Speaker 4: of respect for what CC did in the game, and
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  Speaker 4: there's not there hasn't been a lot of left hec
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  Speaker 4: gets to that point. So huge, huge honor to be
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  Speaker 4: associated with that if it does happen. But at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, I'm here just because I want
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  Speaker 4: to pitch and be on a great team and win again.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm hopeful that I get back at it and
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  Speaker 4: feeling okay now. So I think I got a good
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  Speaker 4: chance to be a part of it in September October,
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  Speaker 4: which is which is really why we all come back.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saying June perhaps, I mean, is that what
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: you're thinking.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's all on a good timeline.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: You know, the foot is kind of weird. You know,
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: not a lot of people have had the surgery, so
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: there's not a lot of finite you know, milestones to make.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: But throwing some bullpens now and everything feels good. It's
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: just kind of that last ten to fifteen percent to
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: really step on it, and I think if that goes well,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah five seconds.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Rokie as good as advertised, Split special Split specials.
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: She's way bigger than I thought he was.
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a big dude. Yeah. I think there's obviously
• 13:05
  Speaker 7: some talent there for sure.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're saying here perhaps of the three Japanese born pitchers,
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: maybe the best stuff overall. So we'll see how that
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: ends up playing out. Clayton Kershaw, It's always a pleasure
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: to talk to you, to see you. Our best to
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: Ellen and the kids. Have fun.
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: Bring back the Pink Punk Tournament. Freddie wants to win again.
• 13:20
  Speaker 7: All right, I'll get it back.
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: We want to talk to our friend Evan Phillips right now.
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: Super really rejoining us. Evan, great to have you man.
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: How you doing has camp and are you ready for
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: the big trip?
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: I am great. Unfortunately I'm not quite ready to make
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: the big trip.
• 13:38
  Speaker 9: I'm going to be staying back here, continuing to build up,
• 13:41
  Speaker 9: throwing some games, and then I'll meet the team at
• 13:44
  Speaker 9: some point earlier this season.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you'll Dave he back at home. Yeah, yep, yep.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Sorry Scotti David said that holding you back. The good
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: thing is, though, Evan, you said that you feel healthy,
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: You're just not built up yet. So mentally, how much
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: more of a positive is that?
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: Know?
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: In the b bod he is good, You're just not
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: where you need to be yet. As far as innings
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: and the A arm strength, yeah, it's a huge positive.
• 14:04
  Speaker 9: Every every obstacle you know, that I've had to face
• 14:07
  Speaker 9: so far has gone gone really well. So just continuing
• 14:10
  Speaker 9: to chip away, you know, building up into livps and
• 14:14
  Speaker 9: then facing some other hitters and getting into minor league
• 14:17
  Speaker 9: games here in Arizona, getting down to know whatever rehab outing.
• 14:22
  Speaker 9: I'll have to go to you at some point and
• 14:24
  Speaker 9: like I said, hopefully meeting the team real soon.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Shoulder?
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a subscap strain, a muscle strain in
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: the back of the shoulder.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I think pictchers had muscles though, Yeah, I know, I
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: just had ligaments and tendon, right.
• 14:34
  Speaker 9: If that's it's kind of a really weird acute injury, Uh,
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: somewhat of a freak thing that usually if that thing goes,
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: the whole shoulder goes. So un fortunate in that case
• 14:44
  Speaker 9: that that didn't happen. I just needed a little bit
• 14:46
  Speaker 9: of rest thankfully, you know, going to the offseason, had
• 14:49
  Speaker 9: plenty of time to let it, you know, relax, and
• 14:51
  Speaker 9: you know, got an injection to kind.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Of encourage some recovery.
• 14:54
  Speaker 9: And then yeah, I think right around January first, so
• 14:57
  Speaker 9: I was ready to start throwing.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: I was talking about this earlier, Evan, and again, thanks
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: for taking the time. It's always good to have you
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: guys on the show. I was looking at the murderer's row,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: if you will, of the bullpen that you're a part of,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: and it's insane. Not only what you guys had last
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: year obviously in the bullpen dogs, but the additions that
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: came over. You know, we were all hoping for Tanner Scott.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: By the way, Kirby Ates is in there too. When
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: you look at that row and you're just talking to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: your teammates, I mean, this is the best. And I
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: am a Homer, I get it, he was established it whatever.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: This is the best I've felt about the Dodgers bullpen
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: in a really long time.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we're all really excited.
• 15:31
  Speaker 9: And you know what I like most about our group
• 15:32
  Speaker 9: down there is that it's very, very selfless. Each guy's
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: down there just committed to getting outs. I think they've
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: shown that across the track record of their career. You know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: some guys have had a beaten path to get to
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: this point. You know, I'm I'm certainly happy to have
• 15:45
  Speaker 9: my buddy Tanner Scott back in the bullpen with me.
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: And it's going to look a lot different this time around.
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: You know, last time we were teammates, we were kind
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: of fending for ourselves in Baltimore, trying to just stick
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: in the big leagues. But teammates at this kind of level,
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: competing for championships again, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: He looks mean. Tell us about him? You that beard,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: it's so nice phone. Oh no, no, it's just like
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: he looks intense.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Tell us more about him.
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: You could say intense, but you know, once you get
• 16:09
  Speaker 9: to know him, the big Teddy bear. He's a good guy,
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: good dad, good husband. It's been great to you get
• 16:14
  Speaker 9: to know his family and kind of have our kids.
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: You know, we'll grow up to now too.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: What was it like for you and I and I
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: know this. You missed the World.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Series last year?
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, what was what.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Was your emotions like? Because obviously you won, you still
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: get a ring but not to be on the field
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and watch what Blake did, obviously coming in clothing, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: then Walker came in for the for the whole thing.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: What was it like though, because you're like, gosh, those
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: are my guys out.
• 16:33
  Speaker 9: There getting chills thinking about it because it was probably
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: the hardest ten days, oh I've experienced in pro ball.
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: Uh you know, October twenty second, Game six against the Mets.
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: Feel the pop in my shoulder, knew it wasn't good.
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: Next day, didn't recover too well. Tried to throw the
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: next day. I couldn't produce any power. I knew I
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: wouldn't be able to pitch anytime soon. But thankfully we
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: had those five days off in between.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So go get the MRI.
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: You know, it says what it says, But our plan
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: was to you know, try to chip away, get.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Getting ready, so you thought you might still be able
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: to well.
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: The reason I wasn't it was more of a roster
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: legality issue, and so our plan was for me to try.
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: I was gonna, you know, be available for the World
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: Series and if it didn't work, it didn't work, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: we would have shut it down then. But because of
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: the roster issue, if I were to you know, have
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: not been able to pitch.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: There was a chance it couldn't replace me.
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: And you know, playing the World Series, a man down
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: in the bullpen would have been we wouldn't have been
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: able to win. I think we proved that in our
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: Game five win. We needed every bit of our bullpen
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: plus Walker Bueler it will win. But you know, watching
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: those games, I certainly felt every time, you know, a
• 17:42
  Speaker 9: certain spot of the order, certain inning came up, It's like, man,
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: that's my spot.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It hurts my heart for you. You don't get those
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: opportunities of watch.
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: My guys do it, and I'm so confident in them,
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: but mean, I just I was on eggshells after every pitch.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: It was very hard.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: Did you feel like you helped them though? I mean
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: obviously you played all the way up until that point,
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: but you like the legality of it. You would have
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: pushed just the mindset of a baseball player. You would
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: have pushed to be ready and you wouldn't have lied.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: But the fact that it's like, Okay, I'm not gonna
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: push it because we could be down a man in
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: the bullpen, don't you feel like a shred of like
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: you know what I was there because we were able
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: to have one extra guy.
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And you know, I think a lot of it
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: for me was I knew I was a big part
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: of getting them there. So looking back, I was able to,
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: you know, remind myself that I'm a big reason why
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: we're in this spot, and you know, to have that
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: that available guy in the pen because and honestly, I
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: didn't think I was going to be able to go.
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: We were doing all the rehab, we were crushing it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: I just I couldn't throw. So it was you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: could I have gone out there and tossed one in
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: at seventy and seeing what happened, Yeah, sure, but I'd
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: probably been a sling at this point. Yeah, So you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: it was a really hard decision to make when it
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: comes to that side of things. But I knew I
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: was a big part in getting us there and just
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: watching our guys you know, dominate out of the pen
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: for the whole whole playoffs.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Really, it was just a really awesome run for us.
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: This is the time of year where we start hearing
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: guys like, oh, you know, he came into camp and
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: this was ailing him. And you look at the date
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: when you had surgery January first, you said you had surgery.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: No, I had no surgery. I was able to avoid
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: surgery because the muscle was just able to heal on
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: its own.
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: No ligament damage, no capsule damage. Very fortunate in that case.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: Did you know that was going to be the die
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: the outcome of it when they said after October twenty second,
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: I think you said you felt the.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Pop, right, did you?
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Was that like a tense time because we talked about
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: all off season? Why did this guy get this wrisk
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: thing taken care of in October? Why didn't he get
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: it taken care of in November? Did you worry about that? Like?
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: Come January first, when you got cleared, did you worry that, Paul, No,
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: you know I may need surgery at some.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Point, not so much.
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: We did do a follow up MRI in December kind
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: of just to see how things were progressing on their own,
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: and I think, you know, mostly my injury was when
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: I came out of the MRI tube and they told
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: me my diagnosis. I was surprised because it didn't feel
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: like it was going to be severe. But then the
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: timeline that was attached to it, you know, the World
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: Series was going to be difficult to get into, but
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: we tried. You know, we did every We did quarter
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: zone to try to just get it to settle down
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: as fast as possible, you know, a bunch of shoulder
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: rehab to try to just protect it, and ultimately it
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: just needed time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: You know. It was a full.
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: Muscle tear, so I basically had no way to accelerate
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: my arm or decelerate as well, and giving it that
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: time that it needed. You know, we had that follow
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: up MRI in December, and that showed that it was
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: healing but not quite ready. So that's ultimately why we
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: waited all the way until January, just to double triple
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: check make sure this thing has had plenty of time
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: to heal. And here we are, you know what, early
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: early March, mid March now and feeling fully healthy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Just dropped now you don't need to hear them. We're good,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: so keep talking. So, yeah, I'm feeling healthy, and I
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: think it's the results of being patient, you know, with
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: my rehab.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: How much of it is a mental game, Evan, Just
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: trying to make sure that you don't feel, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: kind of getting over that hump, knowing that, Okay, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: don't want this to happen again. But knowing that you
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: feel good and can really navigate through things and execute
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the way that you want you to be effective.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: I think those mental hurdles for me were, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: while I was trying to be available for the World
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Series because you know, I wasn't on the roster to start,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: but that didn't stop my rehab. Ultimately, we had a
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: conversation the day of Game five to just shut things
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: down because it wasn't getting any better. Those mental hurdles were,
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: you know, where I was worried that if I push
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: it too hard, am I going to just make this
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: thing worse? And towing that line was really difficult. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: I think, you know, personally, I felt like in early
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: December I was itching to get ready to go. AJ
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: knows like when spring training is around the corner, you
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: want to be on time. And I've had plenty of
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: guilty feelings here in camp about me not being able
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: to be ready.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because in your mind in the off season, you're like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: all right, it's it's December twelfth, this time to pick
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: up a baseball or whatever it is.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: Yes, I had that same exact conversation with my agent
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: with the Dodgers, and we we all got together and
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: agreed to, you know, get the second MRI. Let's check
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: on things, see how they're looking. And when things were
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: progressing but not quite there. We all kind of came
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: to a mutual agreement to okay, we'll keep things on
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: hold for now, make sure we're not jeopardizing the whole season.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: And if we need to miss, you know, a couple
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: of weeks, a month, whatever it's gonna take, maybe we
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: decided that would be okay.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I have to ask you you're talking about not beyond time.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I'm about to pull up your guys roster. Yeah, okay,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and it's it's insanity for me, but he was seriously,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I got I checked today and so don't touch my
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: right hand. But I'm just looking at your pitching staff.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: But forget the starters. But then you look at your
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: bullpen right trying and Scott Vessia, Dustin May, whatever he
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: does you when you come back healthy, Yates is down there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Yates is down there, Copak, what roles do you guys?
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Are you going to pitch in like the third inning? Abandon?
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I forgot about Brewster when he comes back, right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: I'm telling you that's where where our bullpen doesn't have egos,
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: like we know the one who's the closer.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So Blake, your Blake's not like I would need to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: close guys two year deal. No, I think the Dodgers
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: win championships like that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: That's mind said when we come into camp and when
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: we take the field, like sometimes the outs and the
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: six are gonna be bigger than the outs in the
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: ninth because when you have our lineup, they're gonna add
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: four in the eighth and then there's no closer to have, right, Yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: So I think that mindset is kind of just you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: gravitated into the pen where we take the ego out
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: of the equation. It's gonna shake out certain ways here
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: and there, but with our depth, right and like the
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: the guys that are gonna step up while I'm out,
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: while guys are trying to return and get healthy for us,
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: there's just gonna be so much uh, you know, opportunity
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: for guys.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: But ultimately, if it comes down to.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just they're just whole situations. They're not safe
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: situations anymore because your offense is so damn good that
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you don't you don't need to come in and close.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a it's just a stat in our eyes.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: What about that mentality though, because when you and I
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: know that you're obviously friends very close to Tanner Scott,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: you were on some Orioles teams that weren't that great
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and you guys weren't that great at the time. As
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you're trying to kind of come up and find your way.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: What a difference in terms of where you kind of
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: started your career and where you're at now. What have
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you noticed is kind of the growth and development of
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: not only yourself, but just the difference in organizations and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the way that this club goes about its business.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: You know, I think for me, when I first got
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: to the Dodgers that the winning mentality, just the idea
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: you're coming to the clubhouse with the expectation to win.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: I had to find a way to contribute, you know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: I was like bottom of the totem pole at that point.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: I was pitching mop up innings up ten down ten,
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: just skate eating up outs for guys, and I had
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: to make that matter. Yeah, I think that kind of
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: mentality really helped me chip away at the different kind
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: of leverage roles I've taken with the Dodgers, making those outs,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: making all of my outs matter has really taught me
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: that on a winning team, every single out does matter
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: just as equally as any other out.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: You were the first guy, and I have to asked
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: us that I remember hearing. I don't know you talked
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: about or someone talked about on TV making the exes right,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Like most people don't understand what it's like. But you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: were trying to throw the sinker going in the slider cutter,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but you were also doing it at like one hundred
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: miles an hour. What's changed in baseball? Like those guys
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: used to be like eighty eight pooh sinker, eighty two
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: pooh slider, and they're trying to keep the ball down.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Now you guys are running it ninety nine to one hundred,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: ninety ninety one slider cutter.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: What's changed? And it's been crazy to watch, hadn't it?
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: I think even just the past five ten years, trying
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: to talks about it all the time. Ninety five used
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: to be gassed. Oh yeah, Now if you don't throw
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: ninety five, you're barely hanging around in the league. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: you know, performance has just becolm the priority.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I think for a lot of pitchers. You've seen guys
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: going to off.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: Seasons, They're going to drive line, they're going to tread,
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: They're trying to get the most out of themselves, and unfortunately,
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: I think that's probably where these injuries, the spikes have
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: come from too, you know, along with maybe pitch clock.
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: Just the way the pace of the game, the intensity
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: of the game has risen. But the talent is through
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: the roof right now. But some of them watching some
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: of not just our pitchers, but pitchers around the league,
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: the talent is insane right now.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Evan Phillips. We appreciate you best of luck. I'm happy
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: that you're healthy. I know you'd love to be, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: potentially pitching in Tokyo, but you got a lot of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: beginnings up coming the season. We appreciate it.