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"Raiders of the Lost Docs." (Live from Atlanta!) · Pod Save America

• 0:35
  Speaker 1: What's up Atlanta?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Josie Duffy Rice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jon Lovett.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Tommy Vitor.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 6: We're very happy to have Josie with us on this swing.
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  Speaker 6: You know and love her as one of the hosts
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  Speaker 6: of Crooked Media's podcast, What A Day, and.
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  Speaker 2: An Atlanta native, even better.
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  Speaker 6: We are also lucky to be joined by your next
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  Speaker 6: Secretary of State, Bee Wen. And as you might know,
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  Speaker 6: Stacey Abrams was supposed to be here She unfortunately tested
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  Speaker 6: positive for COVID. She is home recovering well. And we
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  Speaker 6: have a pre-taped interview with her that we'll be running later.
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  Speaker 6: So she wanted to talk to you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Pre-taped, I feel like, isn't giving the energy it deserves.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? A special interview.
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  Speaker 4: This is very special.
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  Speaker 2: Exclusive, exclusive. It's an exclusive. No one else got it.
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  Speaker 1: It's an exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: No one else got it. So that's good.
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  Speaker 6: You're going to have to stick around.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around to see it. All right, let's get to
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  Speaker 2: the news.
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  Speaker 6: You might have heard that 2024 GOP frontrunner Donald Trump
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  Speaker 6: is now the target of multiple investigations for a variety
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  Speaker 6: of potential crimes.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. There we go.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody calm down. I know it's gone. Let us not
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  Speaker 1: become that which we, etc., Lock him up after a
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  Speaker 1: rigorous and fair process in accordance with the rule of law.
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  Speaker 1: Lock him up with a rigorous and fair process in
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  Speaker 1: accordance with the rule of law. Lock him up in accordance....
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: You're on Fox & Friends right now.
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  Speaker 2: Say hi. Oh, my God. Anyway, let me just go
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: through the week.
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  Speaker 6: On Wednesday, the former president asserted his Fifth Amendment right
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  Speaker 6: against self-incrimination during a deposition in New York related to
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  Speaker 6: allegations that Trump's businesses committed financial crimes.
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  Speaker 2: We sort of all forgot about that one. Yeah, we did.
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  Speaker 6: That one's just been under the radar. Here in Georgia,
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  Speaker 6: Trump's being investigated for his attempt to overturn the 2020 election.
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  Speaker 6: And yesterday, we learned from an FBI search warrant that
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  Speaker 6: the federal government is investigating Trump for hiding highly classified
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  Speaker 6: documents in his beach house, for which he's offered a
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  Speaker 6: series of conflicting explanations.
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  Speaker 2: First, there were no documents. It's a hoax.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Second, OK, there were documents, but they were planted. Three, OK,
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  Speaker 6: they weren't planted, but Barack Obama did it too. And four,
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  Speaker 6: this statement from Trump's office, which was first read on
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  Speaker 6: Fox News late last night by conspiracy theorist John Solomon.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 8: This is from President Trump's office. It just came in
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  Speaker 8: a few minutes ago. As we can all relate to,
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  Speaker 8: everyone ends up having to bring home their work from
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  Speaker 8: time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump,
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  Speaker 8: in order to prepare the work the next day, often
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  Speaker 8: took documents, including classified documents, to the residents. He had
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  Speaker 8: a standing order. There's the word I've been looking for.
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  Speaker 8: that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken to
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  Speaker 8: the residence were deemed to be declassified the moment he
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  Speaker 8: removed them.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, famous disciplined late-night studying workhorse Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: Burning the candle at both ends.
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  Speaker 1: A pair of bifocals tipping on the edge of his nose.
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  Speaker 1: Just one light so Melania can sleep. Perusing the documents.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think about Trump's work-from-home excuse? Does this
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  Speaker 6: remote work thing, does this give him the right to
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  Speaker 6: hide nuclear secrets in his beach house after he was
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  Speaker 6: fired from his job?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I do kind of like this one. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 9: Like, he's like a Carrie Matheson up there spreading out
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  Speaker 9: the intel on ISIS, burrowing into the cells.
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  Speaker 1: Reading about Macron's sex life.
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  Speaker 2: Get me some string. I mean, like, what are you.
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  Speaker 9: We're laughing at it, but it's exhausting. You know, they
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  Speaker 9: throw out five different excuses. Nerds like us have to
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  Speaker 9: debunk them. But, you know, we came all the way
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  Speaker 9: to Georgia, so we might as well. So on the
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  Speaker 9: first one. You're the nerd.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, there was reporting back in 2018, as early
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  Speaker 9: as like February 2018, that Donald Trump stopped getting a
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  Speaker 9: written copy of the presidential daily briefing, the PDB, because
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  Speaker 9: he just didn't feel like reading it.
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  Speaker 5: Because it was written.
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  Speaker 4: Right, because it was written. Because it was written. He
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  Speaker 4: either got a briefing or he skipped it.
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  Speaker 5: Can you guys somehow get Jeanine Pirro to just narrate
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  Speaker 5: this for me?
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  Speaker 4: Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And we all know what he was doing late at night.
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  Speaker 9: He was tweeting at Fox News. Two, I mean, buddy,
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  Speaker 9: you have like a home office. Your house and your
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  Speaker 9: office are both at the White House. If you want
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  Speaker 9: to take the documents from your office to your home,
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  Speaker 9: just take them and then walk them back. You don't
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  Speaker 9: need a standing order to declassify. I sound ridiculous even
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  Speaker 9: saying this. Because it's so absurd, but if there was
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  Speaker 9: a standing order, feel free to produce it. But regardless,
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  Speaker 9: you can't store the top secret documents in the basement
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  Speaker 9: of your beach club next to the pool floats and
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  Speaker 9: the Zing Zang. You don't work there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You were fired.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have the job anymore.
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  Speaker 9: And you also, by the way, can't have your lawyer
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  Speaker 9: sign a document to the FBI back in June saying
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  Speaker 9: that you'd returned all the classified documents when that is
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  Speaker 9: not true. That is also a big no-no with FBI types.
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  Speaker 9: And also we know that The FBI was apparently very
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  Speaker 9: worried about whatever they saw in the surveillance footage from
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  Speaker 9: that general area of Mar-a-Lago that they subpoenaed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they saw a bunch of waiters looking for Aperol
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  Speaker 1: and then reading about how we make nuclear missiles fit
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  Speaker 1: into a submarine.
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  Speaker 6: A dash of this and uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a second.
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  Speaker 1: If the Aperol's down here, what did I bring up there?
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  Speaker 6: Josie, the warrant shows three different laws that Trump might
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  Speaker 6: have broken. Can you walk us through what those are?
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  Speaker 6: How much trouble might our guy be facing here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if the FBI shows up to your house, I've
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  Speaker 3: never heard of someone's house where the FBI shows up
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  Speaker 3: and it's a good story. They're never bringing a million
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  Speaker 3: dollar check. It's always bad. But he is facing Espionage Act,
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  Speaker 3: which it's all in the name. You don't want that charge.
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  Speaker 2: It speaks for itself.
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  Speaker 3: Obstruction of justice. And it turns out you cannot destroy
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  Speaker 3: classified documents as an elected official if you don't have
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  Speaker 3: permission to do that. So that covers a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of trouble. You could get some
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  Speaker 2: time for that.
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  Speaker 3: He won't.
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  Speaker 6: I think the big question, what we don't know is,
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  Speaker 6: was this whole investigation leading up to the search of Mar-a-Lago...
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  Speaker 6: simply to retrieve the documents and to get them back,
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  Speaker 6: to get back the classified information, or will the investigation
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  Speaker 6: result in charges? That we just don't know at all
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  Speaker 6: right now. But we did get some more information today
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  Speaker 6: from the New York Times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, some great details about how Trump himself reached out
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  Speaker 3: to Merrick Garland.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, would you use the word threat, bribed?
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  Speaker 3: What's the word we're using?
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  Speaker 2: Through an intermediary.
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  Speaker 6: So apparently we found out Trump had a person talk
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  Speaker 6: to someone at DOJ after his home was searched and
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  Speaker 6: say he wanted to send a message to Merrick Garland.
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  Speaker 6: And the message was he had been checking in with
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  Speaker 6: people around the country and found them to be enraged
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  Speaker 6: by the search. And the message was the country is
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  Speaker 6: on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?
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  Speaker 1: Look at this fire I just set. What can we
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  Speaker 1: do about this? It's like, hey, Garland, it's me, Trump.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to figure out how to turn down the temperature,
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  Speaker 1: that thing I'm famous for doing. Now, one thing I
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  Speaker 1: could do is tell everybody not to kill FBI agents.
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  Speaker 1: But short of that, my hands are tied.
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  Speaker 4: I really want to know who made the call.
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  Speaker 2: Jesse and I were just talking about that. Do you
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  Speaker 2: have a guess? Speculate.
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  Speaker 3: That has to be a real questioning your life moment.
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  Speaker 3: All the choices you've made. If you were calling DOJ
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of Donald Trump, something has gone wrong along
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 2: He is down to.
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  Speaker 1: Like the real lawyers that were furious at the lawyers
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  Speaker 1: they called team crazy.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They're all now gone and have replaced by people even
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  Speaker 1: lowered down the fucking ladder into sewage by these like
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  Speaker 1: just like loose anchors from OAN with law degrees getting
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  Speaker 1: plucked from obscurity and suddenly signing off on warrants at Mar-a-Lago.
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  Speaker 5: I do think it's amazing that Donald Trump is it's
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  Speaker 5: just such a habit to him. to interfere with department
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  Speaker 5: of justice investigations that he does it even when he's
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  Speaker 5: not president.
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  Speaker 4: What have you just called the concierge at Mar-a-Lago? You
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  Speaker 4: place a call.
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  Speaker 2: Just imagine getting that call at DOJ though.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, uh, there's someone, a former OAN anchor on
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  Speaker 6: the phone saying that they have a message from Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 6: He said he's been checking in on the country and
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  Speaker 6: everyone's mad.
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  Speaker 4: From Bedminster to Palm Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, Merrick Garland, who obviously we all know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: was in some kind of a hyperbaric chamber. Very, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would say even-keeled.
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  Speaker 2: Even-keeled.
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  Speaker 1: By temperament. He was like radiating with anger at that brief,
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  Speaker 1: when he gave that press statement. And you felt like
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  Speaker 1: he was furious because obviously there had been attacks on
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  Speaker 1: the FBI. There's been all this sort of malicious misinformation
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  Speaker 1: being spread about what they were doing, which he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to dispel. But I wonder if part of it was
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the previous president of the United States
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  Speaker 1: called and did a Sopranos-era, pretty nice Department of Justice
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  Speaker 1: you've got here. Would be a shame if something would
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  Speaker 1: have happened to it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the serious truth of it is that Merrick
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  Speaker 5: Garland's signature experience in public life was prosecuting the Oklahoma
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  Speaker 5: City bombing. So these exact threats that he's hearing about,
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  Speaker 5: if the FBI agents who work for him now are
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  Speaker 5: what led to that bombing in the 90s.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Also, the time that he didn't get on the Supreme
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  Speaker 3: Court feels like a signature part of his public.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that's where Dan was going.
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  Speaker 1: No, I would say that's what he does in therapy.
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  Speaker 1: That has to stay in therapy. That does not need
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  Speaker 1: to come out of there.
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  Speaker 6: So, Dan, Trump accused Obama of taking nuclear secrets with
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  Speaker 6: him to Chicago after he left the White House. Were
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: you an accomplice to that crime or did you advise
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  Speaker 6: him against that?
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  Speaker 2: Were you a, I would no go on the.
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  Speaker 3: As your lawyer, I advise you not to answer this question.
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  Speaker 5: I need to find an OAN anchor to speak for me.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, in the Obama White House, unlike the Trump
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  Speaker 5: White House, helping the president commit crimes was not part
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  Speaker 5: of the job description.
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  Speaker 4: So no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think. Only fashion crimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Two counts of dad jeans.
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  Speaker 2: Boom. You wonder why you don't get invited.
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  Speaker 5: Someone can scratch out that Obama interview from the 2023
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  Speaker 5: calendar now. I mean, this has been a talking point
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  Speaker 5: on the right, this idea that Obama took 30 million
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  Speaker 5: pages of documents to Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Here is the truth.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a spoiler alert. It's bullshit,
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  Speaker 5: but let me explain why. There is a Presidential Records Act,
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  Speaker 5: which says that everything that a president does, his staff,
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  Speaker 5: they write down, is to be preserved for history. Every email,
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  Speaker 5: every speech draft, every memo is to be preserved. And
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  Speaker 5: then eventually, those documents will end up in the president's library.
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  Speaker 5: So when Obama left the White House in 2017, 30
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  Speaker 5: million pages of documents were given to the National Archives.
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  Speaker 5: They were sent to Chicago. They are in Chicago, near
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  Speaker 5: where the library will be. They are under the physical
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  Speaker 5: and legal custody of the National Archives. Not Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 5: They're not in his house. They're not in his beach house.
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  Speaker 5: They're not in his garage. They are in the custody
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  Speaker 5: of the National Archives. The classified documents are not in Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: They are in Washington, D.C., in a facility owned by
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  Speaker 5: and operated by the National Archives, specifically designed to protect
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  Speaker 5: classified secrets.
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  Speaker 4: Does it have a pool?
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 6: There's no National Archivist at Mar-a-Lago just chilling out by
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  Speaker 6: the pool.
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  Speaker 5: Mar-a-Lago is not a National Archives facility, to be clear.
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  Speaker 5: And so this is an incredibly stupid argument made by
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  Speaker 5: very stupid people very often.
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  Speaker 6: Speaking of those people who love it, the New York
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  Speaker 6: Times reports that Republicans are now divided over whether to
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  Speaker 6: criticize the FBI for its search after coming on a
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  Speaker 6: little hot Let me just look. They came out a
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  Speaker 6: little hot. And some Trump allies are warning senior GOP
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  Speaker 6: officials to scale back the attacks on DOJ and FBI
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: because the set of facts could get worse for the
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  Speaker 6: former president.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my thing. Just cut the guy loose. Start saying
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: nice things about Ron DeSantis. What are you doing? Why
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: are you defending him still?
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  Speaker 1: There's no good reason. They should do that. Like, for
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: the sake of Republicans winning, they should be doing that.
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  Speaker 1: But they can't. And I was thinking about why they can't.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that, like, this sequence of events, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think captures the problem, which is, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: worst human beings in the worst mainstream political party on
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  Speaker 1: the planet, they're out first, right? Instant. They don't wait.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Marjorie Taylor Groen, is out there groaning.
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  Speaker 2: It's been like this all weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it got more of a rise out of them
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  Speaker 1: than our work isn't finished. But so, you know, Jim
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  Speaker 1: Jordan races to the mics. Marjorie Taylor Greene says to
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  Speaker 1: fund the FBI. Sean Hannity's up. Fox News is up.
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  Speaker 2: They're up.
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  Speaker 1: And all the ones that want to wait and give
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  Speaker 1: it a beat to figure out what they should say,
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  Speaker 1: all the kind of more reluctantly pro-Trump figures, all the
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  Speaker 1: anti-anti-Trump figures who are trying to wait to see what
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  Speaker 1: the liberals say so they can attack the liberals while
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  Speaker 1: ignoring whatever else is happening, all those people are quiet.
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  Speaker 1: And by the time they get around to saying anything,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: those Trumpists have sort of set the bounds of what
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: you have to do to prove your loyalty. And right now...
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: There's no other means of connecting with the Republican base
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  Speaker 1: other than demonstrating your fealty to Trump. That's how you
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  Speaker 1: prove you get it. And so I don't know. I mean, even,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you know, this is an opportunity for Ron DeSantis. This
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: is an opportunity for anybody who wants to kind of
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  Speaker 1: cut Trump loose and they would love to take it.
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  Speaker 1: But they either, you know, jump together or hang separately
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  Speaker 1: and they just can't.
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  Speaker 2: They can't do it.
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  Speaker 6: He's he's right about them all. He said in 2016,
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  Speaker 6: they're all weak. All of his opponents are all weak.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: He's right.
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  Speaker 6: Josie, you're from here. What's going on with the... Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you've got an Atlanta native. Tell us what's going on
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  Speaker 6: with this Fulton County investigation into Trump's attempt to overturn
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: the election.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's sort of under the radar here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, not here it's not. Here it's real on
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the radar. You may remember that Donald Trump told our
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Secretary of State to find 11,780 votes. I do remember that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I do remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Just excellent execution on his part, I would say. So
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  Speaker 3: that's not allowed, it turns out. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: So now our local Fulton County DA, the next county over,
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  Speaker 3: is investigating him. Giuliani is involved. Lindsey Graham is involved.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I hear they're having a tough time getting those two
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  Speaker 2: to testify.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It turns out, like, I mean, would you want to testify? Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: If I'm their lawyer, I'm telling them to stay home.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I've been pretty critical of this DA, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: a broken clock twice a day. And you can always
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: bet against Donald Trump and you will have the moral
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: high ground. I mean, that's the lesson. But the important
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: thing about this is that Donald Trump's lawyer in this
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: case is also Migos' lawyer, Cardi B's lawyer, and.
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  Speaker 3: Waka Flocka's lawyer, Gucci Mane's lawyer. Billion Dollar Lawyer, that's
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: his name. Well, that's not his name.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Hashtag Billion Dollar Lawyer.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually has a name. That's a great holiday party.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Amazing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You don't always go to your lawyer's holiday party, but
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that one you go to.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, it is the most Atlanta legal proceeding possible. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I love it so much. You know, so I support that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: 17 people have been designated targets of this investigation.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of people.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Well, if you, like, the problem is that Donald Trump
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: doesn't know when to shut his mouth. And so, like,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: if you are going to commit crimes, you have to
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: be quiet about them. This is not official legal advice.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not a real lawyer. But you have to be
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: quiet about them, and he's never quiet about them. So
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: he's just implicating, just running around, saying to everybody, find
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: some votes. And then you're, like, everybody's implicated in this thing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a lot of helpers. A lot of helpers.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Look to the helpers.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: All right. We'll be back with more news in just
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: a bit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And we're back. I've got 87 problems and the IRS
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: is all of them. That's right. It's time for a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: very special OK Stop. about the second worst thing to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: happen to conservatives this week, the passage of the Inflation
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Reduction Act, which invests into 87,000 new IRS agents specifically
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so the IRS will have resources to finally go out
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: wealthy people and corporations that dodge their taxes. Let's roll
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that beautiful bellyaching footage.
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: This bill funds 87,000 new IRS agents. Imagine IRS agents
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: descending upon America like a swarm of locusts.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Good cut.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: He's really sticking with that beard, huh? That's a choice.
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Sort of fits with the loathsome vibe, you know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work with the beard, it doesn't work without
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the beard. It's also like, so the Republicans spent five years,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: ten years trying to undermine the IRS, trying to make
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it so that they couldn't enforce the law against anyone
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: except the most basic of filers, which meant they wanted
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the IRS to target the poor and the middle class.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: That's why some of those audited places are some of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the poorest places in the country. And then we say
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to fix it. And we're going to put
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: more people on it. And they call it an army
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of locusts.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: It's not anywhere near 87,000. Completely made up figure. There
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: was some treasury report that said the treasury department overall
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: over the next 10 years is going to have 87,000 people.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Half of them are like people who are just retiring.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: They're refilling. They're just replacing people who are retiring. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: then there's like all kinds of other jobs.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's, it's.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what?
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: If Joe Biden can create 87,000 jobs with good benefits,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: good for him. Oh, there you go, Dan.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Well, they, Republicans hollowed out the IRS after 2010, after
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: they won and audits of billionaires, millionaires, big corporations went
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: down to like two, 3%.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: That's what happened. And, and everyone else got audited.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: So this bill is supposed to make sure that rich
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: people get audited so they don't cheat on their taxes.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And have you tried to contact the IRS? It's fucking impossible.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: There's nobody there.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody there. Takes case.
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: It's just plain and simple. They're going to unleash the
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: IRS on the American people to raise money. Now, President Biden,
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: of course, says, well, we're only going to unleash the
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: IRS on the wealthy. With respect, if he believes that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: he also believes in the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny,
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: and that Jimmy Hoffa died of natural causes.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop. I think Colonel Sanders living in hiding has
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a point.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: I think he looks like Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: when he ducks his face in the cake and comes
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: back up.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Is that too mean?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: We'll leave it in.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: It's also great when he says, with respect.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: With respect, here's something scathing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: We don't know how.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Hoffa died.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, how did Jimmy Hoffa die?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe when they put him in that hole, he got
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: scared and did die of a heart attack.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: That's a natural cause.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Under the J? Under the J at the Meadowlands?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: The Meadowlands, yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Is that what it is in The Irishman?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a long movie. The best
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: part of The Irishman is when Joe Pesci has to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: play a young man coming down the stairs.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: That's, all right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: The so-called Inflation Reduction Act also says the $ 80 billion
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: budget is for, quote, increased enforcement, operational improvements, and customer service.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: What kind of customer service?
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: We don't have to wonder. Before the IRS took it
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: down yesterday, there was a posting, watch this, on their
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: website that listed the job requirements for a special agent's position.
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: The major duties require agents to, quote, carry a firearm
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: and be willing to use deadly force if necessary. A
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: little like James Bond, but instead of hunting down evil maniacs,
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: these agents hunt down and kill middle class taxpayers that
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: don't pay enough.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Amazing. I feel like kill at the last minute was
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: an ad lib. Yeah. Kill.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: The IRS agents are going to shoot you like Dr.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Lisa shoots me with Botox every three months.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Has he met a CPA before? Yeah, this guy is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Brian, my man.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Obviously, the special agent job and the customer service job,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: they're different jobs. That's obvious, right? The customer service people
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: don't need guns. They're just taking the calls, right?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I hope so. They're going to kill middle class taxpayers.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: They're going to kill you.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Not subtle.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It's really, we laugh at it. This is dangerous.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I do want to know more about this job posting.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: They did take it down.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I do feel like if you work for the IRS,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you don't actually need to be armed.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I think they probably need a couple people with guns.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Wasn't Elliot Ness an employee of the IRS?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember my untouchables.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: I looked this up because I was alarmed when I
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: saw the clip. There's a special unit of the IRS
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: that does, like, for, like, financial crimes, like, money laundering,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: international terrorism, that kind of stuff. There's, like, a small
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: unit that people need guns because they're going after, like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: terrorist financing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Law and order, colon, IRS.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: In the criminal justice system. Particularly heinous financial crimes are
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: pursued by the agents of the Internal Revenue Service.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: These.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Are there stories?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Bomp, bomp.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Is there more? Let's roll the clip.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: This is a.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do the alt text.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It's an ad.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Biden is building a shadow army of 80,000 new agents
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to hunt you down and take your money. Stop Biden's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: shadow army. Stop the Manchin Schumer bill. That was a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Ted Cruz ad? I think so. I think he put
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it on his Twitter. And I would say. Between the porn.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: I would say the best Ted Cruz ads have no
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Ted Cruz.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: You get the message, but none of the messenger.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: They have figured out what works, yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Also, calling it the Manchin Schumer bill is a weird
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: addition at the end here.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I love this idea that it's a shadow army. It's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like they're really proud of this bill. We've told everybody
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It's not in the shadows.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It's not really in the shadows.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: We did a bunch of announcements about it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: We've been talking about it on television for weeks.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I do feel like Biden is the kind of person
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: to tell everybody about a shadow army if he had one.
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: Oh, absolutely.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that's what happens now.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Very dark Brandon.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very dark Brandon. Yeah, totally. I still don't know
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: what that means, but I just say yes.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You just say it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They come after Biden five years from now, just all
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the government property stolen. It's just cases of ice cream cones.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Just stale old ice cream cones.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: He didn't want to go to waste.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And that's OK, stop.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: All right, we got through it. Time for more news.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: So President Biden is about to sign a historic climate
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: and health care bill into law. thanks to a razor-thin
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Democratic majority that only exists because a record number of
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Georgians turned out to vote in 2020.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It was you guys. You did it. In 2022, this state....
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: So in 2022, this state is again at the center
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: of the political universe. Control of the U.S.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Senate.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Could come down to whether you re-elect Reverend Raphael Warnock.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: You can protect the rule of law and voting rights
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: by electing Jen Jordan as Attorney General and tonight's guest,
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Bee Wen, as Secretary of State. And you finally have
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: a chance to replace Brian Kemp by electing Stacey Abrams
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: as your governor. So let's dig into these races a
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: bit and the midterms in general, which have become much
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: more competitive over the last couple of weeks. Josie, the
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: polling averages show Senator Warnock with a small lead over
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Herschel Walker and.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Brian Kemp with a small lead over Stacey Abrams. Boo, John. Boo.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: We can do that. But you live here. You've been
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: watching this race up close. What do you think? What's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the lay of the land here? What are the big
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: issues driving this race?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: That Georgia is a blue state.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: All right. I like that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: One of the fastest growing states in the country. One
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: of the biggest growing minority populations in the country. This
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: is a blue state. And the future of this country
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: is going to come out of the south and it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: going to come out of Georgia. So I think we
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: are going to win. We're going to win.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. Good pitch.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I've never been wrong. I've been wrong a few times.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: But I'm not wrong this time, I'm sure.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: You're in the prediction business.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. It's gone great.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I definitely didn't see the Mar-a-Lago FBI thing coming.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Nobody did.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Dan, why do you think Kemp is slightly ahead in
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: the governor's race, but Warnock is slightly ahead in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: Senate race?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Like... Kemp Warnock voters out there? What's going on?
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: John, I reject the premise of your question.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Polling is bullshit.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: But because you've done such a great job hosting this podcast,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: I will try to answer it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: Appreciate it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: So I think Donald Trump, in a weird way, did
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: a favor to Brian Kemp by opposing his candidacy in
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: the most half-hearted, ass-backward Donald Trump way possible. And so
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: by kind of backing David Perdue, David Perdue being an
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: absolutely miserable, stupid candidate, Brian Kemp wins the primary. We're
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: going to clap for David Perdue being miserable.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Very bad candidate.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: But Brian Kemp winning that primary with Trump opposing him
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: has given him sort of imbued him with like two
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: character traits in the eyes of a lot of voters.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: One is strength because he beat Donald Trump. And two
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: is moderation, right? It gives a lot of Republicans who
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: voted for Biden or conservative-leaning independents who voted for Biden
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: the idea that Brian Kemp is anti-Trump. But he's not.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump is anti-Brian Kemp. But Brian Kemp is not
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: anti-Donald Trump.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Which is even sadder for Brian Kemp.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just very, very sad.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's a Mike Pence situation. It's... Yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: They're coming for you next.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: And so the race now sort of shifts. I believe
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: that that momentum is fleeting. Stacey Abrams has time to
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: make the case. And I think in the long run,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: having Donald Trump removed from the picture and not making
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: this be about 2020 or election theft or anything about it,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: making being about who is going to fight for every
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: single Georgian, whether it's going to be Brian Kemp or
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Stacey Abrams, is the terrain she wants to fight this
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: race on. It can be about health care. It can
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: be about costs. It can be about helping people. It
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: can be about abortion and what is going to happen
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: in this state. And that, I think, in the end
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: will benefit her and give her a very, very good
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: shot to win this race, despite what? These fake polls
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: you refer to? Say it right now.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Fake polls.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: She's pulling a Biden, you know? She's pulling a Biden.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: You're behind. You get COVID. Everything goes great.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: You win. There is.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: That's how it works now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You have to get COVID twice.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: That's a key part of it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Tommy, it seems like in the other race, in the
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Senate race, it seems like Herschel Walker's strategy is to
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: blame Warnock for inflation and gas prices and everything that's
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: pissing people off. Warnock's strategy is to convince voters that
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Walker is unfit to serve in the Senate.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that strategy?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I think they're both good strategies. to be honest with you.
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think, you know, Herschel Walker is going
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: to try to tie Warnock to President Biden and his
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: low approval ratings, even though they're getting better, to time
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: to inflation, to time to high gas prices and everything
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: that people are mad about in the world. And, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: normally the party in power lose seats in the first midterm.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So it makes sense as a strategy.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: On the other side, Warnock's going to lead with his
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: bio and things he's been fighting for the last couple
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: of years and what he's gotten done. But he's also
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: going to try to disqualify Walker That means talking about,
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: you know, there's this really pretty searing ad that features
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: a clip of Herschel Walker's ex-wife talking about abuse, you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: pointing a gun at her head, like really harrowing stuff.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: He's been lying about his background.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Herschel Walker lied about an FBI agent, which, by the way,
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: thank God for him that he lied about being an
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: FBI agent because they're very unpopular with Republicans right now.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That could have been a problem.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: He got ahead of that one.
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: Um, and then there's just like, I don't know, a
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: bucket I would call like, like, what are you talking about?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Like the air floating to China and climate change.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: He had more of a point there than we'd like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to admit.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Did he?
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: Let's talk about this later. So, you know, look, I,
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: hands up. I was pretty worried about, um, Herschel Walker's
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: candidacy because he's famous. He's a, you know, amazing football
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: player is a hero to a lot of people. high
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: name ID, he's really struggled so far. Yes, Biden's approval
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: is in a low place, and that makes it harder
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: for the Democratic Party, but I think right now I
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: would rather be Warnock than I would Hershel Walker.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Tommy, can I ask you some follow-up questions?
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, follow-up.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: One, do you think Hershel Walker can execute a strategy
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: without speaking publicly?
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: That part is going to be hard.
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: He did an interview with the head of the RNC
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: on their podcast and struggled with that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: Rana Romney?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Rana Romney, although, you know, he was a hell of
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: a football player, Dan.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Do you think it's a problem for him that his
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: name is associated with the most lopsided trade in NFL history?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Potentially, yes. These are good questions.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: It is tough because we've talked about all these Republican
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: candidates and we've had this debate like, Do we call
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: them extreme?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Do we call them out of touch? John Fetterman's calling Dr.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Oz out of touch.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: A lot of other Republican candidates are extreme. You could
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: say that Herschel Walker is out of touch and extreme,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: but the unfit label is unique to Herschel Walker, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: I think sort of the only way to go, because
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: it's a target-rich environment there with Herschel Walker's... Everyone's trying
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: to be sort of polite, categorizing all the different weird things.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: It's... yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: We're an outer fucking space. Ha! The president pled the fifth.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It's below the fold. You got a guy running around.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Half the answers are like, he's like, why did I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: threaten my wife? I wasn't myself. I was one of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the many other people that live inside of my head.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That story is only in the news for three days. Yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's unfit. I think we should make an issue of it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's just very, you don't need a lot of
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: careful strategies.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: It's a very obvious route.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: The fact that we're even having this conversation, it feels like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: even in preparing for this show, we're going to do
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a game later where we talk about your terrible fucking Republicans.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And even using clips about Herschel Walker, you're like, wait,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: we must savage this man.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But also, like, should we? I feel the same way.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: This feels wrong. I don't know what to do. Because
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: he's basically being just sort of pushed out to do this.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: But I think that's why one of Warnock's early ads...
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: was like, hey, you know Herschel Walker? Great football player.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: I love football too, but he's not fit for the Senate. So,
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: you know, like he's trying to take that tack where
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: you're like, yeah, some of you know him, know him
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: as a football star.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: That's great. That's fine. Shouldn't be in the U.S. Senate.
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and then the super PACs dust off their baseball
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: bat and they start swinging. I mean, that's sort of
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: how it works these days.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah. Well, I'm glad someone is. Love it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: We talked last night about how Democrats have been gaining
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: momentum since the Dobbs ruling, and they're now heading into
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: the midterms with this historic move climate and health care
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: law to campaign on. Republican strategists are at least saying
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: they're not that worried. They're saying that since the law
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: won't do that much to reduce inflation in the short
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: term over the next couple months, that it won't help
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Democrats and may actually hurt them if they're just bragging
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: about reducing inflation, but the bill doesn't actually take effect
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: for a while. What do you think about that, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: how should Democrats handle that? Talk about this bill.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: First of all, I would start by trying to take
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: as little advice as we can from Republican strategists. It's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: not on the level, and I don't think they have
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: our interest at heart. First point. Oh, is that what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you think we shouldn't do?
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That said, no, I don't think Democrats should walk around
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: saying we solved inflation. I do think it would be
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: helpful if gas prices keep going down. That'd be a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: good thing for Democrats to do by having it happen
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to them. But Beyond that, it's about the choice Republicans
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: made in opposing this. This was a bill about reducing
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: healthcare costs, reducing the cost of prescription drugs.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: They were against it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Tim Ryan, who's running this race in Ohio, he commented
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: on the FBI, not a raid, and said, search and seizure,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and said, these Republicans are fighting for Donald Trump, we're
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: fighting for you. They're obsessed with every other thing except
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: doing things that will help you in your day-to-day. Whether
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you want to call it extreme or out-of-touch, Here are
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the things we're fighting for. Here are the things we're
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: trying to do for you. Here are the things we'll
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: keep doing if you keep us in charge. Here's what
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they care about, taking away your rights, taking away your
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: right to vote, and attacking the FBI because it's politically
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: convenient for them to defend Donald Trump. They care more
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: about helping Donald Trump than they do about you.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: As I mentioned earlier, obviously Stacey Abrams couldn't be here tonight,
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: but she was gracious enough and well enough— uh to
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: tape an exclusive interview.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: That's right siren emoji exclusive.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Interview right before this show minutes before this show it's.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Like when it's like in rocky when they like she's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like cut me cut me rock cut me i'm going
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: in i gotta do pots we're.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Done yeah no that's how that's our cue to get
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: off stacy abrams welcome to pod save america.
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: Thanks for having me uh how are you feeling I
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: am on the mend. The Sahara has deserted my throat
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: and my eyes are no longer on fire.
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: So I'm getting there.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Here's what I think.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I think this is like hustle culture. I'm sorry, I'm
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: sneaking in. I think this is hustle culture at its
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: absolute worst. All right. We're going to send the FBI
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to your house with some soup.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: All right. right.
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: Thank you. I appreciate this.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: The soup has been good.
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: I've had a couple of friends drop soup off for
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: me and it has been quite tasty.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think my jump in worked as well as
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'd hoped it was. We thought I was going to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: pop in.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know. Okay. So I know
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: better than to ask you about polls. So I'm not
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: going to do that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: But What have you found to be the most surprising
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: and difficult challenge of this campaign against Brian Kemp?
• 39:59
  Speaker 13: That people give him credit for not committing treason. It
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: is stunning to me that someone who built his reputation
• 40:09
  Speaker 13: and his entire political career on voter suppression, who responded,
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: as he said, to the frustrating results 2020 and 21
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: by once again imposing more voter suppression and more barriers
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: for voters gets credit because once he didn't do the
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: absolutely wrong thing it's also amazing to me that he
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: is getting credit for spending billions of dollars he opposed
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: and he does this remarkable jiu-jitsu where he takes credit
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: for all of this money that he says shouldn't be
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: here but is the reason he should get re-elected.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Um yeah that sounds that sounds pretty ridiculous.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she can. No special dispensation for
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: not committing treason, you know?
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: I think it's a.
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: Fairly low bar, one that we should expect of all
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: elected officials.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, hey, do I get a prize?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't put these puppies in this wheat thresher, you know? No,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: there's no prize for that. You're not supposed to do that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: That would likely not be the analogy I picked.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But I appreciate the graphic.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: You've been pointing out Kemp's extreme position on abortion. If
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: you're governor, you're facing a Republican legislature that has already
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: passed some very restrictive abortion laws. What can you do
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: as governor to protect abortion access?
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: Well, number one, we know that he is going to
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: make it harder if he comes in. He has already
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: said that he thinks the bounty system in Texas was
• 41:38
  Speaker 13: interesting and something worth looking at. He has said that
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: as a personal matter, he does not believe in exceptions
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: for rape or incest. And so there's nothing to stop
• 41:46
  Speaker 13: him from making things worse. And so first and foremost,
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: I can forestall the legislative imperative that they tend to
• 41:52
  Speaker 13: feel to worsen and one up one another with these
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: draconian laws. But on the positive side, I was in
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: the legislature when we passed, when the state passed the
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: 20 week ban, which was deeply problematic and narrowly adopted.
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: The six week ban passed by one vote in the house.
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: The number of those who voted for that ban are
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: no longer with the legislature. And so I believe my
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: election will also bring people with me who will hear
• 42:18
  Speaker 13: the people loud and clear and will reverse these bans.
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: What we saw in Kansas, I think can absolutely happen
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: here in Georgia, but we need a governor willing to
• 42:26
  Speaker 13: do the work.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you on a, just a completely
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: unrelated topic about Nichelle Nichols, because this is a, we are,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you know, we're both, we're both Star Trek fans and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I know she meant a lot to you. And I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: just wanted to hear what you felt when you heard
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that she had passed and what some of your favorite
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: moments were of Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek.
• 42:50
  Speaker 13: So I actually had the chance of meeting her. We
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: were in the airport together coming out of, I think, LA.
• 42:56
  Speaker 13: And she was so gracious and gorgeous and thoughtful. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 13: she just chatted me up about the work I was
• 43:04
  Speaker 13: doing for democracy, which for me was, I mean, yes,
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: it's been great to meet President Obama and And all
• 43:10
  Speaker 13: those people, but Nichelle Nichols complimenting you on your work
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: is an extraordinary thing. But what energized me about her
• 43:17
  Speaker 13: is that her work wasn't just on the screen. It
• 43:20
  Speaker 13: was the work she did to get women in science,
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: the work she did to champion inclusion, and that she
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: always did it with such grace and kindness. And she
• 43:30
  Speaker 13: created space for everyone else in the room to be
• 43:32
  Speaker 13: a part of the conversation. And those are things we
• 43:35
  Speaker 13: should take for granted, but we don't. And it's surprising
• 43:40
  Speaker 13: when you confront it. And she, every time I had
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: the chance to see her after that, it just reminded
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: me of what just an extraordinary human she was.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm also just going to once again give you
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: this opportunity to join me in saying that Star Trek VI,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: The Undiscovered Country, is the best Star Trek film.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: You've dodged this before, but I'm.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Hoping today we get a straight answer on this question.
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: You're wrong.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's it for that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: John, I try to be straightforward with you, and I
• 44:09
  Speaker 13: apologize if I tried to... I didn't want to hurt
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: you last time, but I think it's important that we
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: do have an honest relationship.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I needed to hear that. I'm going to go
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: process it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: It's okay.
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: There's help.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Are you bored? I just had COVID. I'm not afraid
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: of you. Do you want to play Portal 2? Do
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you want to do Portal 2 co-op? Do you have
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a PS5?
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: Let me get past November, and then we can talk.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: You said in an event the other week... if black
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: men vote for you, then you will win. What is
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: your message to undecided black men or undecided voters in
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Georgia everywhere who are not just sure if they're not
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: going to vote for you or Kemp, but whether they're
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: going to come out to vote at all?
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: So the point of my comment was that black men
• 44:52
  Speaker 13: have remarkable power in this election. They have a capacity
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: to that sometimes is not met by their turnout, which
• 44:59
  Speaker 13: is legitimate and honest. And I don't disparage those who
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: make the decision not to vote because often the leadership
• 45:07
  Speaker 13: that gets elected is not reflective of their needs. That said,
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: I know that if we have the kind of turnout
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: possible among Black men and they vote for me, I
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: will win this election. That is why my campaign has
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: been so focused on making sure we're addressing the challenges.
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: Those challenges are safety, justice, and opportunity. On the safety side,
• 45:27
  Speaker 13: It's making sure we make our community safe, but that
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: we also hold police and law enforcement accountable, that we
• 45:32
  Speaker 13: don't have to choose one or the other, that on
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: the justice side, that criminal justice reform is critical because
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: Georgia has had and continues to have one of the
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: highest mass incarceration rates in the nation. And as people
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: are returning citizens, they deserve to be reintegrated into society
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: and to have real chances at success and an opportunity
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: for those who are doing well or want to do better.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: We need to tackle affordable housing.
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: We need to make sure that Black entrepreneurs can actually
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: get access to the resources, the capital, and the contracts
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: they deserve.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Georgia is in this unique space where if.
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: We don't have a new governor, it will be 100
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: years before we close the parity gap between minority and
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: non-minority contracting. And that's especially acute for Black-owned businesses. Those
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: are the things I can do. And I'm the only
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: candidate willing to talk about doing them. And so to me,
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: if a person isn't willing to say they see the problem,
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: how do you expect them to solve it?
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Last question for you. You've got a big audience here
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: tonight filled with people who are probably going to be
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: volunteering for you, knocking on doors for you, making calls
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: for you. They're going to be talking to a lot
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: of voters who aren't sure if they're going to vote either.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: You got a pep talk for everyone in the audience tonight?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: Look, in 2018, I was running for 18 months. That
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: created a very different energy. It also was exhausting. It
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: was fantastic, and I appreciated it. But this time, we've
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: had a different dynamic to this election. But The urgency
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: is real. Because four years ago, I was positing what
• 46:58
  Speaker 13: could happen. Now we know. And we also know what
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: good leadership can look like. I need every person out
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: there not to suspend their disbelief, but to lean into
• 47:08
  Speaker 13: their hope for more. We can get this done. We've
• 47:11
  Speaker 13: got the numbers. We've got the voters. We've proven it
• 47:15
  Speaker 13: in 2020 and 2021. And we can do it again
• 47:17
  Speaker 13: in 2022. So I just need everyone to show up,
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: bring your friends, bring the people you owe money to,
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: Make sure you talk to the folks you broke up
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: with as long as it wasn't really, really ugly and
• 47:26
  Speaker 13: just get them out there. Because if we build this
• 47:29
  Speaker 13: energy again, we can absolutely win this election. And the
• 47:32
  Speaker 13: last thing I'll say for both of you is and
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: I think we will talk about it. We know that
• 47:36
  Speaker 13: this is about democracy. If we do not have a
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: governor in 2022 elected and taking office in 23, our
• 47:44
  Speaker 13: 270 electoral votes across this country are in jeopardy and
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: Georgia is going to be a pivot point. We know
• 47:50
  Speaker 13: that because of the more decision that is likely to
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: come down for the Supreme Court in 2023, state legislators
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: and governors are going to decide the future. We've already
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: seen this happen with Roe v.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Wade.
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: We know it's going to happen across the board. Governors matter.
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: This governor matters. And if we want governors to do
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: what's right for our people, I need to be the
• 48:11
  Speaker 13: one we select here in Georgia.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Stacey Abrams, we missed you tonight, but thank you so
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: much for joining via Zoom. We hope you feel better
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: and best of luck out there on the campaign trail.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: Joining us now is Georgia's next Secretary of State, Bee Wynn.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: So great to see you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 14: Great to see you, too.
• 48:52
  Speaker 15: And I have to start off by saying I am
• 48:54
  Speaker 15: so sorry I am not Stacey Abrams.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: They love you, too.
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: Look, I was elected in 2017, the seat formerly held
• 49:05
  Speaker 15: by Stacey Abrams. So I know what it's like to
• 49:07
  Speaker 15: have to follow through and be right after her. But
• 49:10
  Speaker 15: here's a fun fact. I have immigrant parents. And now
• 49:14
  Speaker 15: they think that you're supposed to be a state lawmaker.
• 49:17
  Speaker 15: and a tax attorney and an author and run for governor.
• 49:22
  Speaker 15: So thanks a lot, Stacey.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: No pressure. It's so great to see you again. It's
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: so great to see you in person.
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: The last time we talked was you were on the
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: pod in February of 2021, and that was that awful
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: time when we all knew there was a vaccine, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: nobody could get it. you know, and you're still trapped
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: in the House and it's really miserable. And we talked
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: about all the Republican bills in the Georgia state legislature
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: that were attempting to make it harder to vote. Can
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: you help, and I'm sure these folks know better than most,
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: what was actually passed, but listeners at home might not know,
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: like what actually passed and how can you help prevent
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: voter suppression if you become Georgia's.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Next Secretary of State?
• 50:02
  Speaker 15: So the Georgia General Assembly passed a 98-page bill that
• 50:07
  Speaker 15: was signed by Governor Kemp that was supported by the
• 50:10
  Speaker 15: current Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. And there are so
• 50:13
  Speaker 15: many different provisions in that bill that do make it
• 50:16
  Speaker 15: harder for Georgians to vote, and we've seen some of
• 50:18
  Speaker 15: those things manifest themselves already. So first, something that's very relatable,
• 50:23
  Speaker 15: I used a secure Dropbox to vote during the 2020 election.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: That's great.
• 50:28
  Speaker 15: Those drop boxes are no longer available 24 seven. They
• 50:32
  Speaker 15: are no longer outside, which was very helpful for people
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: with disabilities.
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: You can drive up, drop it in.
• 50:38
  Speaker 15: Also helpful for people who have different working hours where
• 50:42
  Speaker 15: you would have to drop it off late at night, right?
• 50:44
  Speaker 15: They're inside. They are only available during early voting. They
• 50:49
  Speaker 15: cut off the time period. So if you are a
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: procrastinator or maybe your ballot came in late, which often happens,
• 50:55
  Speaker 15: you can't drop it off anymore the Friday that early
• 50:57
  Speaker 15: voting closes. So no longer available that Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
• 51:01
  Speaker 15: or Tuesday. Then we've got the application to vote by
• 51:06
  Speaker 15: mail and the receiving of the absentee ballot. The timeframes
• 51:10
  Speaker 15: have been condensed on both ends. So it makes it
• 51:12
  Speaker 15: harder to request and receive one. The rejection rates have
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: gone up And then they made it a crime to
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: hand a bottle of water to a voter waiting in
• 51:20
  Speaker 15: line in a state like Georgia, where as recent as 2020,
• 51:24
  Speaker 15: black voters waited in line four hours, six hours, eight hours,
• 51:27
  Speaker 15: up to 11 hours.
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: So like lots of little efforts to strip away voter access.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: You mentioned your opponent, Brad, Brad Raffensperger. He gets a
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: lot of.
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: Credit in sort of the mainstream press for rejecting Donald
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: Trump's request to that he just fined 11,780 votes. So
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: just for the record, if Joe Biden were to call
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: you and say, B, I need you to find me.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: About 12,000 votes, what would you say?
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: I would have not sat on that phone call. I
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: would have reported that right away.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 52:05
  Speaker 14: He waited.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Now you're both heroes in the mainstream media. Okay, so
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Now that we've dispensed with that, what else?
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: It's like George Bush had a memorable line, the soft
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: bigotry of low expectations.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Like, yes, you didn't help with the coup, Brad. That's great.
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: What else should we know about Brad Raffensperger's record that
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: has sort of gotten wiped away.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: By the other reporting?
• 52:26
  Speaker 15: Yeah, so, you know, Stacey Abrams said it best, right?
• 52:28
  Speaker 15: Not committing treason doesn't make you a hero.
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: But.
• 52:34
  Speaker 15: Here's some other things that you should know about Brad Raffensperger.
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: He is an extremely conservative Republican. He served in the
• 52:40
  Speaker 15: General Assembly. He has a record to back that up.
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: He is staunchly anti-choice. He introduced legislation to urge the
• 52:49
  Speaker 15: body to consider life beginning at the moment of conception.
• 52:53
  Speaker 14: He's got an A rating from the NRA.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Boo.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Boo.
• 52:58
  Speaker 15: And he doesn't actually not believe that every eligible Georgian
• 53:02
  Speaker 15: should have the right to vote. One of the things
• 53:04
  Speaker 15: that he is currently saying is he believes that we
• 53:07
  Speaker 15: should end automatic voter registration, which has added millions of
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: Georgians to our voter roll. And he continues to purge
• 53:14
  Speaker 15: Georgia voters off our rolls. He's not a friend to democracy.
• 53:17
  Speaker 15: He is not a friend to women either.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: So we don't like him. We don't like him.
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: Someone who did reach out to him is Senator Lindsey Graham.
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: who is now fighting a subpoena that would force him
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: to testify about Trump's efforts to change the results of
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: the 2020 election. It's unclear what's going to happen, I think.
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: What questions would you like to hear Senator Lindsey Graham
• 53:39
  Speaker 9: answer about that phone call or.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: This broader effort?
• 53:42
  Speaker 15: Well, I'm glad you asked about that because I know
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: you were talking earlier about this investigation that's happening in
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: Fulton County. And one of the things that's not really
• 53:52
  Speaker 15: talked about is some of the things that happened behind
• 53:54
  Speaker 15: the scenes. So I had to appear before the grand
• 53:57
  Speaker 15: jury and testify two days after I won my runoff election.
• 54:02
  Speaker 14: And I think that what I would.
• 54:09
  Speaker 15: Like to know is who allowed Rudy Giuliani to come
• 54:13
  Speaker 15: into our legislative body in the first place?
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Good question. Okay.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Good question.
• 54:18
  Speaker 15: Because whoever let him come in, both on the House
• 54:20
  Speaker 15: and the Senate side, they allowed him to use a
• 54:24
  Speaker 15: body that should be held up to very high standards.
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: They allowed him.
• 54:28
  Speaker 15: To use it as a guise, as a way to
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: legitimize lies and conspiracy theories.
• 54:34
  Speaker 14: And they did not care when we went to them.
• 54:37
  Speaker 15: I actually went to them and said, what is going
• 54:39
  Speaker 15: to happen when we get death threats for speaking up
• 54:41
  Speaker 15: against his lies?
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: They said, you're on your own. You're on your own.
• 54:45
  Speaker 15: And so who let him come into our legislative body?
• 54:49
  Speaker 15: Which lawmakers decided they were just going to turn their
• 54:52
  Speaker 15: head and look the other way and allow this guy
• 54:55
  Speaker 15: to come in and subject us to what we experienced,
• 54:59
  Speaker 15: but also amplified the lies and the conspiracy theories? I
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: think those lawmakers, they should also be held accountable in
• 55:07
  Speaker 15: some form.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I think those.
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: Those kinds of questions take on added meaning given what
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: we've been seeing with the threats against the FBI specifically.
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: Stepping back a little, I mean, Republican efforts to scare
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: voters into thinking that there is just widespread rampant voter
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: fraud didn't start with Donald Trump. It has been a
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: years long, decades long concerted effort to create fear of
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: voter fraud and then use that fear to pass voter
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: suppression laws. Are there lessons from your experience like fighting
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: this fear mongering in Georgia that the National Democratic Party
• 55:41
  Speaker 9: can take to more effectively push back?
• 55:44
  Speaker 15: Well, I think that it is a really hard topic, right?
• 55:47
  Speaker 15: Because we want secure and fair elections, and we conducted
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: a secure and fair election in the state of Georgia.
• 55:58
  Speaker 15: And what has happened is we have lost the narrative
• 56:01
  Speaker 15: around what is happening with voting, which is voter fraud
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: is very, very rare. And in the few instances it happens,
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: those things are caught. And there are cases in which
• 56:15
  Speaker 15: it is very unintentional. So, for example, we had an
• 56:19
  Speaker 15: expert coming to our legislature to talk about this idea
• 56:22
  Speaker 15: of moving to a primarily vote-by-mail state, which is the
• 56:25
  Speaker 15: most secure form of voting. And they showed us the
• 56:29
  Speaker 15: statistics that says in these millions of cases, it's handfuls.
• 56:36
  Speaker 15: where somebody accidentally voted twice and usually it's somebody who's
• 56:40
  Speaker 15: older who has forgotten that they voted and these things
• 56:43
  Speaker 15: are caught by the system. But what we don't talk
• 56:46
  Speaker 15: about is how many people are disenfranchised because of the
• 56:49
  Speaker 15: laws on our books. So the example that I like
• 56:52
  Speaker 15: to give is in 2020, we know that DeJoy and
• 56:57
  Speaker 15: the Postal Service, they weren't delivering our bills, our ballots,
• 57:02
  Speaker 15: our prescriptions. There was a massive slowdown in many states
• 57:06
  Speaker 15: past emergency ruling to say if your ballot is postmarked
• 57:09
  Speaker 15: by Election Day and received within 72 hours, that's what
• 57:12
  Speaker 15: we do with military overseas ballots in Georgia, then your
• 57:15
  Speaker 15: vote counts. So there was a court case that said, yes,
• 57:19
  Speaker 15: in Georgia, postmarked by election day, received within 72 hours.
• 57:23
  Speaker 14: Well, guess who appealed that ruling? Brad Raffensperger.
• 57:26
  Speaker 15: So as a result, thousands of ballots arrived late and
• 57:30
  Speaker 15: they were not counted. And that happens in every single
• 57:34
  Speaker 15: election cycle. And that should not be the case.
• 57:36
  Speaker 10: Absolutely not.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, the other.
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: The other challenge and, you know, national Democrats deal with it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: We deal with it on the show. I'm sure you
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: deal with it is sometimes even talking about voter suppression
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: laws and voter suppression efforts can risk making people feel
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: demoralized and feeling like, you know what, if they're going
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: to make it this hard, if someone might criminalize this,
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: why even bother? How have you found effective ways to
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: push back on that sort of sentiment?
• 58:08
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and I do think it's important that we continue
• 58:11
  Speaker 15: to mobilize and inspire people and remind them exactly why
• 58:15
  Speaker 15: it is so important to vote.
• 58:17
  Speaker 14: And I was thinking about this because.
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: It's just been really hard with all these Supreme Court
• 58:22
  Speaker 15: decisions and everything that's been going on to sometimes feel
• 58:26
  Speaker 15: very optimistic. And, you know, you have to have this
• 58:28
  Speaker 15: time to absorb how you're feeling, your anger, your sadness,
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: your concerns about what's going on in our country. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 15: I was thinking the other day, I said, you know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 15: my dad, he always taught us that education was the
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: great equalizer, right? And I very much believe in making
• 58:49
  Speaker 15: sure we invest in our public education system, and that
• 58:52
  Speaker 15: is a way to ensure people have economic opportunity.
• 58:57
  Speaker 14: But voting is also a great equalizer.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: It is....
• 59:03
  Speaker 15: The time in which it doesn't matter who you are,
• 59:06
  Speaker 15: how much money you make, where you live, the color
• 59:09
  Speaker 15: of your skin, When you go to that ballot box,
• 59:12
  Speaker 15: your vote counts the same way as the rich white
• 59:16
  Speaker 15: man that makes more than everybody else in the world, right?
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump who votes by mail.
• 59:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it is an equalizer. That is real power. One person,
• 59:27
  Speaker 14: one vote.
• 59:29
  Speaker 15: I mean, that is, there is no other thing in
• 59:32
  Speaker 15: the world that gives you the ability to leverage your
• 59:35
  Speaker 15: power in the same way. And that's exactly why they
• 59:38
  Speaker 15: want to take it away from us.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: You just mentioned your dad.
• 59:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, I've heard you talk really movingly about your
• 59:44
  Speaker 9: father's experience in Vietnam as a prisoner of war, and
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: then your family's challenges that they faced coming to the
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: United States as refugees.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: How did that lived.
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: Experience and growing up sort of hearing those stories inform
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: your approach.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: To public service?
• 59:59
  Speaker 15: So my dad, he was held for three years by
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 15: his own government. They put him in a jungle in
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 15: the middle of nowhere. They cut him off from his
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 15: family and friends for six months. And when he was released,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 15: you know, he was subjected to starvation, hard labor. We
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 15: don't know what else because he doesn't really talk about it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 15: So when he was released, my parents made the difficult
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 15: decision to flee their country. They left in the middle
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 15: of the night on a boat. And They knew that
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 15: it was very likely they might drown at sea, like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 15: the hundreds of thousands of people who have tried to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: flee their countries in search of a better life. But
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 15: they knew that it was eminently important, this idea of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 15: living freely, living in a democracy, having these freedoms that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 15: were stripped away from them, including the right to free assemble,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 15: the right to free speech, free press, a free and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 15: fair election, the right to criticize your government without being
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 15: thrown in jail also. When I was young, growing up
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 15: in Augusta, Georgia, I knew that our civil liberties weren't guaranteed.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 15: I also watched my parents, two heroes in my eyes
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 15: who risked their lives and facilitated an escape. I watched
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 15: my mother specifically shrink back and make herself smaller. She
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 15: did so because she spoke English with a heavy accent
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 15: and people would look past her or through her or
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 15: just not look at her at all. And I was
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 15: her translator when I was a little kid. And that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 15: always left me with this feeling of I never want
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 15: anyone to feel the same way that she did. I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 15: never want anybody to feel the way that my parents
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 15: did or to endure what they endured just to get
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 15: here for basic civil liberties. And so I dedicated my
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 15: entire life to making sure that whatever I'm doing, it
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 15: is to empower people, which is why I ended up
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 15: working in public schools for 10 years doing nonprofit work,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 15: much to my parents' dismay. I did not follow those
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 15: traditional career paths because of them, because they showed me
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 15: that in order for me to carry on their legacy,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 15: I've got to dedicate my life to making sure I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 15: do everything we can to protect the civil liberties, to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 15: make things better for the people in our country, and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 15: to aspire to live up to America's greatest ideals.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Going to the hard way.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: So, there are the, you have all these big, closely
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: watched races in Georgia this year. There's your campaign, there's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: Stacey Abrams' campaign for governor, there's Senator Warnock's campaign.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Are you guys working together? Is there like a coordinated
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: field effort? Is there like an Avengers thing happening? Like,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: how does that work?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: How do you guys, like, how can we all help
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 9: out and how do you guys work together to win
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: this thing?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 15: So we are working together. We celebrate the diversity and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 15: strength of our ticket. And even today, um, With Stacey
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 15: having COVID, it was Stacey, what do you need? How
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 15: can I support you in this moment? What is it
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 15: that I can do to help you? But we all
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 15: understand that in order for us to build a strong Georgia,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 15: in order for us to build a strong country, all
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 15: of our races are important and critical.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 14: And Stacey spoke about this earlier.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 15: We know that we're facing this moment in time where
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 15: our rights are being attacked and I'm very saddened to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 15: think about the generations coming behind us having fewer rights
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: than we do specifically around choice, right? And how that
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 15: is going to impact young people, their ability to finish
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 15: high school, their ability to finish college.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 14: We know statistically the earlier you.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 15: Get pregnant and have a child, the less likely you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 15: are to finish high school, to graduate from college.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 14: You're stuck in a cycle of poverty.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 15: And I think about the ways in which we can
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 15: collectively work together to mitigate the harm that we are
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 15: going to see in the state of Georgia. And that
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 15: means we will see women die.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 14: We know that.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 15: They're already dying, actually, because our current governor won't expand
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: Medicaid and invest in our health care system. We have
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: one of the worst mother mortality rates, and especially for
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 15: black women. Over half of our 159 counties don't have OBGYNs.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 15: So we need a governor who is going to expand Medicaid,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 15: who is going to protect women. And we need an
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 15: attorney general who's going to challenge the constitutionality of that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 15: abortion ban, which is Senator Jen Jordan.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 15: And then here's what we'll also see, which is specific
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 15: to the Secretary of State's office. We're going to see
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 15: workers who rely on the SOS's office for their licenses,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 15: like nurses, like social workers, get caught up.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 14: In this system. Thank you, social workers and nurses.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 15: What the Secretary of State can do and what I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 15: would do is choose not to invest the resources to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 15: investigate nurses or social workers who are caught up in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 15: this harmful law. And we know that Brad Raffensperger, he
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 15: is not going to stand up for our workers. So
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 15: we're all in this together because we know what's on
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 15: the line for Georgians. For some Georgians, it will be
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 15: a life or death situation.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Seems like the clear takeaway is we need to win
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: all these elections. We need to win all of these elections.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 14: All of these elections.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Bewin, thank you so much for coming on. We really
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: appreciate it. Binder campaign, volunteer, donate. Thank you so much.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 14: Thank you.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: So if.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: You guys in the audience, if people listening back home
• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:15
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• 1:06:18
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• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: So every city we've been going to on this tour,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: we've had an activist come on stage today. We have
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: one of the very best organizers in the country tonight.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: She is the Chief Executive Officer of the New Georgia Project,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: someone who is instrumental in turning this state blue, Inse Ufa.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Hi. Hello.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: Good evening Cobb County. Good evening Pod Save Nation. All right,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: so I'm Nse Ufad. I'm the CEO of the New
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: Georgia Project. For anybody in the room who doesn't know
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: who we are, we are a community organizing, base building,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: voter registration, voting rights organization. We've helped over 600,000 young
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: people and people of color register to vote. in all
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: 159 of Georgia's counties.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: I love our organization and I love what we do.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: So let me tell you, I'm the kid of an
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: African politician and an African preacher. So brevity is not
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 7: my ministry. So I'm gonna keep it short. And the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: way I'm gonna keep myself disciplined is I'm just gonna
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: hit you with some facts. Like things that are provable,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: things that are Google-able. One, Georgia's America's newest swing state, right?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: You need to.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: Know that we had a high watermark in 2020. Seven
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: million people voted. The margin of difference between the successful
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: President Biden campaign and the loser, former President Trump's campaign, was.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: 0015 percentage points.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: Just over 12,000 votes. What you need to know is
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: that that Georgia, so they have what are called pivot counties.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: These are counties that were long, long, long, historically Republican counties.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: And then in 16, they voted for Clinton and in 20,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: they voted for Biden. And then they have what are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: called reverse pivot counties, right? So these are historically, again,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: Republican counties, sorry, Republican counties that voted for Clinton in
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: 16 and Biden in 20, forgive me. The point is
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: that there are only six of those counties in the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: entire country, and three of them are in Georgia. One
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: of them is Cobb County. The other is Gwinnett County.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: Is anybody from Gwinnett County here? And the last one
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: is Henry County.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 11: All right?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: What I also know is that the people that we
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: elect in the next 88 days, particularly the ones that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: we send to the United States Congress, are going to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: be the ones that certify the 2024 presidential election, right?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: And so if we cannot send.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 7: January 6th insurrectionists, we can't send election deniers, we need
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: a Secretary of State that's going to count every vote, right?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: We need a governor that's going to take Georgia's priorities serious.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: We need a governor who knows that they're the only
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: governor in the entire United States who lives and works
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: within five miles of the CDC and will not lie
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: to us about what they know in the middle of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: a pandemic.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Right? Right?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: Me, myself, personally, New Georgia Project is a nonpartisan organization.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: You hear that, Brian Kemp? Right?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 7: And aggressively so.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: Now, NSEUFAD is not.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: Nse Ufot has not given up her First Amendment rights.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: Nse Ufot is a proud American, a proud naturalized American,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: and not only do I believe in my right to vote,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: I believe in my right to free speech. I believe
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: that Stacey Abrams is the best candidate that we've ever
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: had for governor.
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  Speaker 5: Of the United States.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, what I also know is that we currently have
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: a rogue Supreme Court, right? That when I started law
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: school and blah, mind your business, right? Bush versus Gore
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: was one of the first big lawsuits that we studied, right?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: And you remember pregnant nipples, hanging chads, Katherine Harris, Jeb
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: Bush looking out for his brother, all of that, right?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: So then imagine this Supreme Court, this rogue Supreme Court
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: that's overturned Roe versus Wade, right? That is seeking to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: dismantle decades of precedent, right? Just to own the liberals
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: and make people cry, right? That they will be the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: ones to determine if we have a contested election. They
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: will be the ones to determine the outcome of the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: 2024 presidential election. And we cannot have that, right? I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: know that Brad Raffensperger did that one thing that one time.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: Y'all are really happy about it, right? What we need
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: right now is a Secretary of State that would rather
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: like fall off of a tree, would rather die, then
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: abandon their responsibility, then abandon their obligation to make sure
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: that we have free and fair elections in the great
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: state of Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 7: So, again, It's Saturday night. You have a lovely panel here.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: I'm going to let y'all go. But I can't wait
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: to see you all in the streets. NewGeorgiaProject.org. We absolutely
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: need each and every one of you to get super
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: annoying for the next 88 days.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Get super annoying.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 16: Right?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: Because that is what it's going to take. That we
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: have to do everything that we can to make sure
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: that the will of the people is reflected in the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: results of our elections. Brad Raffensperger isn't going to help
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: us do that. The only thing that can help us
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: do that is if we have overwhelming participation. I'm talking
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: about every precinct, every county, every election. It must happen.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: That is how we hold the line. on this great
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: country that we love, this great state that we love,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: and the future America that we're building, the one that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: works for all of us.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all good night.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: How about that? I like that. That's great.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: You want to play a game?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Georgia.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: America turned to you in the aftermath of an insurrection
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, vote hard for Warnock, and while you're
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: in there, there are these two six-year-olds in a trench
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: coat going by John Ossoff, and they could use your help, too.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: And you did it. Now the future of your state
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: and our country hangs in the balance yet again. Will
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: you have a senator who fights for you, or a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: senator who fights women and ghosts? Will you have a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: governor who loves Star Trek and democracy or a governor
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: who refuses to expand Medicaid and thinks women are like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: big talking scarves that embryos wear to keep warm? We
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: know how committed you are to pushing Stacey Abrams and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock over the finish line. So if you haven't already,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: now is the time to sign up at votesaveamerica.com. Volunteer.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: But for any of you who need a reminder of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: what to take, it's time for a game we're calling
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Bless His Heart.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Here's how it works. We have two teams. Tommy and Dan.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Josie and John.
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  Speaker 4: I was played by Al Gore last night.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: And we won.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: Just saying.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Let's see who knows just how heinous.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Tommy and Dan, I'll start with you. How much taxpayer
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: money did Brian Kemp spend for the sole purpose of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: trying to get permission from the federal government to block
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Georgians from accessing healthdare.gov? as part of the Affordable Care Act.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Just money they spent for the purposes of blocking access
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: to a website.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: This is a multiple choice?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Was it $ 1 million, $ 11 million, $ 21 million, or $ 31 million? C? Yeah,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I go with C.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: 21? incorrect it was 31 million dollars we should have
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: only found out because the waiver was pursued under the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: trump administration uh and then the biden administration said no
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: go fuck yourselves and they're like but we already spent
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: 31 million dollars.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: So much money a lot of money a lot of
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 9: money to just block a website Kind of blocked itself.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for a while. The thing self-blocked.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: Healthcare.gov.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Famously great website.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Time with the 2013 jokes. Josie and John. In 2020,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Herschel Walker told Glenn Beck that he had a dry
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: mist that would solve what?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Oh. I think it was COVID, right?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Multiple choice? No.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: No choices.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: In what year?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: The year is 2020.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 11: COVID.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: COVID-19. That is correct. Play the clip.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Just wanted to make sure.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 16: Do you know right now I have something that can
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 16: bring you into a building that will clean you from
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 16: COVID as you walk through this dry mix? As you
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 16: walk through the door, it will cure any COVID on
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 16: your body.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: EPA, FDA approved.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: When you leave, it will kill.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: The virus as you leave this product.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Then I have something. You can go and spray down
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: this product.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: Do you know they don't want to talk about that?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: They don't want to hear about that.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: You know how you know?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: I got a lot of questions.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Did he invent the product?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I have so many questions, yeah.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: If it kills it going in, why do you got
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: to kill it going out?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: That's your question?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: That's huge. That's a really good question.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: That would be the first question I would ask in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: the Shark Tank pitch of that.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Also, what is a dry mist? I feel like that doesn't.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Powder is a dry mist.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: It's like dry cleaning. Like dry shampoo? It is wet.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: It's just not water.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Glenn Beck is like, uh, this is too crazy for me.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: That's saying something.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Look at Glenn Beck's face. Glenn Beck's face is the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: same as the Laura Ingraham face when dealing with the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Trump lawyer, which is that like, hey, hey, we're both
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Do it the way I do it.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: I thought that was Guy Fieri for like the.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: First 20 seconds. Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Tommy and Dan, who said the following? I was as
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: frustrated as anyone else with the results, especially at the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: federal level, and we did something about it with Senate
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Bill 202.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Brian Kemp?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: What Dan said.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: We're not doing buzzes and dings?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Son of a bitch. Yeah, it was Brian Kemp.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Josie and John.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: What is Herschel Walker talking about in the following audio clip?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Do you support any new gun laws in the wake
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: of this Texas shooting? Do you support new gun laws
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: in the wake of this Texas shooting?
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  Speaker 16: What I'd like to do is see it and everything
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 16: and stuff.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see it, you know. The quote is,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: what I'd like to do is see it and everything
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: and stuff. What is that his plan for?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I believe it's solving gun violence, right?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: That was his plan for solving, what do you think?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: Solving everything, I think.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much his plan.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: It was. It was gun violence and everything. You got
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: it right. Tommy and Dan. How did Brian Kemp describe
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: his feelings about Georgia's six-week abortion ban going into effect
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Wade?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Is this choices?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you some choices. Okay. He was despondent.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: He was satisfied. He was... Overjoyed, he was furious.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Overjoyed. I was overjoyed.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was overjoyed.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Sick fart.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: John and Josie. In May, Hershel Walker outlandishly denied that
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: he had ever heard Donald Trump say what, as he
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: alleges in this video clip. Do you think the election was... Oh, wait,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: that's the answer.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Well-oiled machine.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: What did I do wrong? I did something wrong.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: We should keep moving. You got it. It was that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: the 2020 election was stolen. He claims he never, let's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: roll the clip. He claims he never heard Donald Trump
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: say the election was stolen. Do you think the election
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: was stolen?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 12: Well, I don't think, I think you, I think reporters
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 12: say that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 16: I don't know whether President Trump said it, because he
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 16: never said it to me.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 11: I'm not arguing with you. He probably says it over
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: and over. No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: I've never seen that clip.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Is that Lou Dobbs?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: It looks like Al Gore, if we're being honest.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: Brutal.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Tommy and Dan, in a 2018 campaign ad, Brian Kemp
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: sits holding a shotgun that's threateningly pointed at whom? Menacing
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: this person with murder? If they were to date who?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: His daughter's boyfriend?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: Potential boyfriend of his daughter.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Potential boyfriend.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: You got it.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip. I'm Brian Kemp. This is Jake.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Young man interested in one of my daughters.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Masculinity is weird, and you should all stop
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: doing it. Hey, guys, we're back on the five.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Did you get it right?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, we nailed that one.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: Ding.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Ding.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to do the dings. In
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: recent weeks, John and Josie... Brian Kemp has falsely accused
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams of encouraging boycotts against Georgia businesses. In reality,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Kemp himself encouraged Georgians to boycott companies that spoke out
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: against gun violence. And in 2018, asked state legislators to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: impose financial penalties on Delta Airlines for doing what? Is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: it A, no longer stocking my pillow pillows in first class? B,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: ending a partnership with the NRA that gave the gun
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: group members a discount? C, removing the pepperoni from the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: savory snack pack? Or D, siding with Amber Heard?
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: It's got to be B.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: It's got to be B. Yeah, it's B. We're going
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: to go with B. C is unforgivable, though.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: It's unforgivable.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Pepperoni is good.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: The pepperonis. You need the pepperonis in that savory snack box.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: It's the heart of the fucking thing. It's not the hummus.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I'll do it in a pinch, but it's weak. Tommy
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: and Dan.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: In April, Brian Kemp signed a law letting Georgians carry
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a gun without a license. According to a poll done
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in January, what percentage, without going over,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: of Georgia residents across Democrats and Republicans said they oppose
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: the law? Reminder, Price is Right rules applies for this one.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Think it out. Think it out loud.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: Who opposed the law?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: How many people oppose it? How many people think it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: a dumb fucking idea?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: We're trusting polls.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to trust this. We're going to take it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: Take it at face value.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: You want to say 65?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: It's 70. That's pretty close.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: I'm giving it to them.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: Good guess, Dan.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Fucking Nate Filber over there.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: That's really good.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Just call me Nate.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: That's how you get the sub stack.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: All right? Very good.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: They don't just give those things to people.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: They literally do give them to you. Josie and John,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: final question before the lightning round. Last March, Brian Kemp
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: signed a voter suppression bill that attempted to sideline the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Secretary of State give the GOP-controlled legislator power to seize
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: control of county election boards, and in a state where
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: voters sometimes wait as long as seven hours in line,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: stop people from being able to give voters waiting in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: line what? Water.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: That's right. Water and what? Food. Correct. Snacks.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: No snacks. No little pepperonis for you. Only hummus. Eat shit, democracy.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Vote hungry. Republicans, vote hungry.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: You know what that sound means.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 17: It's time for a Herschel Walker lightning round.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Here's how it works. I'm going to read you a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: statement that begins with the phrase, Herschel Walker lied about,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: and you have to just tell us if it's true
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: or false. Did he lie about it? Or did he
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: not lie about it?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: In other words, if he lied, you say true. If
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: he didn't lie, you say false.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: It's tricky.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: All right, we're going to go back and forth.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to go fast.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Herschel Walker lied about graduating the top 1% of his
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: class at the University of Georgia.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. He did not graduate. Herschel Walker lied
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: about being on the President's Council of Sports, Fitness, and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Nutrition under Trump.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: False.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: He was on it. You got it. Herschel Walker lied
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: about the number of children he had to his own campaign,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: even his report.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: True, true.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, he has more children beyond his TikTok star son, Christian.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Currently yelling about gas prices at a Starbucks. There's at
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: least three. You're just finding out that Christian Walker is
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Marshall Walker's son? Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: It's fucking wild. What a moment.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: What a moment. What a great moment.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Explains a lot. Explains a lot.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Talk us through it.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's so many feelings.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: It explains. It's good that they're all in the same family.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: That's not like, you know.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of like how cauliflower, broccoli, and Brussels
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: sprouts are one vegetable. You know? Yeah, you don't want
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: to spread that out too much. At first you wouldn't
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: know that they're the same, but then when you step back,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Tommy and Dan. Herschel Walker lied about owning a chicken
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: business as the largest minority-owned food company in the country. Yes,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: he lied. In 2020, Walker claimed his company had over
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: 800 employees, calling it a mini Tyson Foods. That same year,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: the company applied for a COVID loan that listed eight employees.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: John and Josie. Herschel Walker lied about starting an upholstery
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: business that he claimed was the largest in the U.S.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 11: What do you think?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think true?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, probably.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, true, true.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. In addition to not being the largest upholstery business,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: the company does not seem to exist at all.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Tommy and Dan, Herschel Walker lied about being on the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: 1992 Olympic bombsled team in Albertville, Canada.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: False.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: He was on it.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: He actually didn't lie about that. That's something cool that
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: he did.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: That rules.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: He's really fast.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't be a senator. Any more than Dianne Feinstein should
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: be on a bobsled team.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer pushing the sled.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Herschel Walker lied about being an FBI agent as well
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: as a Cobb County Police Department officer.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did do a week-long course at Quantico and
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: received the title of Honorary Deputy from the police.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Like when they give you little wings when you were
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: a kid. Get on out there. You're a pilot.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Vroom, vroom.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Dan and Tommy. Herschel Walker lied about founding a program
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: to support veterans' mental health.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just occasionally does events for the organization.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: Final question. Oh, this is too much.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: We're beating up on this guy. You have nothing to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: threaten me with. No.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Who won?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Tommy won.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: Tommy won the game.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I've decided.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: They're terrible.
• 1:28:59
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• 1:29:04
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• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:12
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• 1:29:42
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• 1:29:45
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• 1:29:49
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• 1:29:52
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• 1:29:54
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• 1:29:57
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• 1:30:04
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• 1:30:07
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