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- 0:00Yeah, So we've got about thirty two million dollars in the trugury now subsequent
- 0:03to the out of company investment and the top up that was done by the
- 0:07confidential corporate investor. So we're well funded now out for the next two years
- 0:13or so, well out at to twenty twenty five. So sitting in a
- 0:16really good position from a trugury standpoint. Never had more cash to the bank
- 0:20and been in a better position to aggressively advance, you know, the company
- 0:24on multiple fronts simultaneously. The Financial Survival Network now more than ever, the
- 0:35Financial Survival Network. Welcome, this is Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:42Carrie Luttz. We are getting a sponsor client update from FPX Nicols CEO,
- 0:49Martin Turen and Martin, I saw you in New York at the at
- 0:54the mining conference. The news was just coming in so fast. I barely
- 1:00a chance to talk with you. But hey, we had autocompus sixteen million
- 1:07dollar private placement global stainless producer, and then your anonymous strategic investor ponied up
- 1:15another two million to protect their nine point nine percent position. I mean,
- 1:21the news just keeps coming. Here, mort Yeah, it's been it's been
- 1:23a great year so far, just year to date. I mean you think
- 1:27back to the last six months, you know, a late fourth quarter of
- 1:32last year, we announced the initial investment from Corporate Strategic Investor. As you
- 1:37mentioned there. We haven't identified their identity, but they are a large corporate
- 1:41group. We got, you know, funding from the Canadian government under the
- 1:45critical Mineral strategy. We sent a joint venture agreement with jog Mech, the
- 1:49Japanese state agency for nickel expiration, and more recently this investment from Autocompu.
- 1:56Just for your listeners background, auto Compu is the large just European stainless steel
- 2:00producer, one of the largest stainless steel producing companies in the world. They
- 2:07are very focused on producing the pliant quality, high ESG low carbon products for
- 2:14their customers. They have had some reliance in the past on nickel being sourced
- 2:20from Russia. They're now having to look forward and think about where their nickel
- 2:23units are going to be coming from and with a real focus on getting it
- 2:28from friendly countries like Canada and from low carbet sources. And so they sought
- 2:34us out late last year. We commenced a period of discussions. They spent
- 2:38a lot of time and energy on due diligence, and that ended up in
- 2:43them making a very significant investment where they owned nine point nine percent of us,
- 2:46and they bought those shares in a private price placement at a forty percent
- 2:52for zero percent premium to our share price. So really great outcome for us.
- 2:57Excellent new shareholder to have on the register, and a group that really
- 3:00provides huge technical validation and endorsement of our project. And finally, the market
- 3:06is taking notice of FPX once again and the share prices has appreciated substantially.
- 3:15Yeah, I mean i'd say we're really not really satisfied with that at all.
- 3:20I mean, yes, we are up about twenty to twenty five percent
- 3:23on a year to date basis. Most of our peer nickel companies have have
- 3:28struggled this year. They're typically down twenty to thirty percent across the board,
- 3:31So I guess our relative performance has been pretty good. But we still view
- 3:36ourselves as absurdly valued at these levels and still see significant opportunity. And I
- 3:42think a great benchmark for people to look at for how to judge that value
- 3:46is going to be the preliminary feasibility study that we're working on. You know,
- 3:51the PEA or preliminary economic assessment we did in twenty twenty placed in US
- 3:57at value around one point seven billion US on our project on an aftertax basis
- 4:02using an eight percent discount rate, and we feel very oftdent that the next
- 4:06stage of study will continue to show a very very robust economic profile for our
- 4:12product Baptiste, and still show that our current market capitalization just over one hundred
- 4:16million US is extremely low versus our inherent project value. Yeah, and that's
- 4:24without any consideration of the Van project as well. That's right. So Baptiste
- 4:30is already one of the largest undeveloped nickel deposits in the world. It will
- 4:33underpin an operation that will you know that this forecast to be one of the
- 4:36ten largest nickel mines in the world in terms of annual production of nickel.
- 4:43We've made a new discovery in recent years at the Van target, which is
- 4:46located about four miles away from Baptiste, and Van is showing the science of
- 4:50being sort of Baptiste a scale. So we're really in the process here of
- 4:55unlocking the potential for a district, multigenerational nickell operation here. And we still
- 5:02think that's not at all well reflected in our share price or valuation. And
- 5:09along those lines, just appointed a new VP of Exploration, Keith Patterson.
- 5:14Extensive exploration experience El Dorado, impeccable credentials that kind of plays into what you're
- 5:21saying there. Yeah, So Keith is joining us, as you say,
- 5:25from El Dorado, where he was, you know, running their project generation
- 5:29for quite a long time, extensive experience working in a variety of jurisdictions around
- 5:33the world looking for gold. So we're very lucky to be able to bring
- 5:38him over to HALPX. His primary responsibility will be to be running the joint
- 5:43venture that we have with jog MEC. Jog MEC is the Japanese state agency
- 5:47for mineral expiration globally. They have they will be fully funding a two year
- 5:54program of exploration that will be managed and run by Keith and Buyer Management Care
- 6:00and the objective of that expiration program will be to find other Awara white nickel
- 6:05deposits that nickel deposits in that particular mineral form in which we're specialized. So
- 6:11again it's a great endorsement and validation of the technical and economic viability of a
- 6:15Wara White deposits and specifically jog Mechs interests here is to find more nickel that
- 6:23is suitable for the EV battery supply chain to serve the Japanese automotive industry,
- 6:28which is obviously a main component of the Japanese economy, and Keith is really
- 6:32the ideal person to run that for us. We're very lucky to have him
- 6:35on board now. Right. So the nature of jog MAC as I understand,
- 6:40the Japanese government has set aside a billion dollars to invest in critical metals
- 6:46projects, so this is right up their alley basically. Yeah, it's really
- 6:50interesting. You know, our joint venture with Jogmec was announced around sort of
- 6:55April first, or kicked off around April first, so about three months ago
- 6:58now thereafter or the Japanese government made some announcements regarding some funding up to a
- 7:03billion dollars US. As you mentioned that they've set aside as a bit of
- 7:10a pool or a bit of a fund that's going to allow Japanese industry to
- 7:14make investments to gain ownership interests in critical minerals projects globally, and the gatekeeper
- 7:20for those funds or the manager of those funds is indeed jog Mech, so
- 7:25jog Mech will act as the manager of those funds. Those funds are going
- 7:29to be available to Japanese private companies and trading houses groups like Mitsubishi, Simatomo,
- 7:35Mitsui, etc. To dip into to then turn around and make those
- 7:40investments. So the fact that we've already got this relationship with jog Mech,
- 7:44that they've already kind of done extensive due diligence on daptise and on this style
- 7:47of nickel mineralization that we're specialized in, and the fact that they're playing this
- 7:53gatekeeper role really puts FPX in a good position. And we've already seen a
- 7:58significant increased interest Japanese counterparties in our project since that announcement was made. Regarding
- 8:03those those funds that have been set aside for this purpose. Pretty much,
- 8:09you've got amazing strong interest from a variety of parties around the globe and they're
- 8:18all kind of throwing money at you. What are your priorities here in picking
- 8:24and choosing the right partner. It's a good question. Yeah, I mean,
- 8:30really, I haven't put the sort of outside of sort of the government
- 8:33support that we're getting seen from Japan and also some of the Canadian government funding
- 8:37that we're we've seen as well as US government funding opportunities that we're pursuing.
- 8:41But if you look at just industry, you know there are three broad categories
- 8:46of groups that have shown interest in US and continue to show quite a bit
- 8:50of interest. One or the large mining companies who are looking at the potential
- 8:56to expand their pipeline of nickel objects that could could serve you know, their
- 9:01their own project pipeline in the years to come and really represent the next generation
- 9:07of a major nickel project development. And we know that most of the large
- 9:11mining companies out there, particularly in the versified at Base Metal's realm, are
- 9:16very public in their ambitions to grow their nickel business. So we continue to
- 9:18see a lot of interest from those groups as number one. Number two are
- 9:22stainless steel companies. Again, stainless still represents about sixty five percent of total
- 9:28nickel demand is for stainless, and those companies are apping to scramble for where
- 9:31their nickel units are coming from. And thirdly are the groups that are involved
- 9:35in the ev the electric vehicle battery supply chain, So those are the chemical
- 9:39companies, the battery companies, and the automotive companies themselves, the car companies,
- 9:45all of whom have an existential need to secure nickel and other raw materials
- 9:50to make sure that they can can continue to crank out those products, and
- 9:54ultimately, you know, those products being the evs that are going to be
- 9:58more and more on our road here throughout the world. So you don't always
- 10:05make the analogy to anytime you might have sold a house. You want as
- 10:09many people coming through the open house as possible. You want as many people
- 10:13kind of bidding on the house to be able to put yourself in the best
- 10:16position to maximize value on your initial investment. Same as true for us.
- 10:22There's a lot of people coming through the open house for FPX right now.
- 10:24That's a good thing for our shareholders, a lot of potential bidders for sure.
- 10:30As far as financial position of the company, what's in the what's sitting
- 10:33in the treasury right now? Yeah, so we've got about thirty two million
- 10:37dollars in the treasury now subsequent to the out of company investment and the top
- 10:41up that was done by the confidential carpet investor. So we're well funded now.
- 10:46Out from the next two years or so well out into twenty twenty five.
- 10:52So sitting in a really good position from a chargery standpoint, never had
- 10:54more cash to the bank and been in a better position to aggressively advance,
- 11:00you know, the company on multiple fronts simultaneously, right, So we're going
- 11:03to see more drilling, I assume, more exploration of the van target.
- 11:09What else, what other uses of that capital do you foresee? You know,
- 11:15the key focus for us is really moving Baptiste forward as quickly as possible,
- 11:20first to a preliminary feasibility study or PFS, which will be done in
- 11:24September. That's a major body of engineering that we're well down the path on
- 11:28now and feeling very good about where that body work sits and the quality of
- 11:33the product from an engineering standpoint, and the sort of the quality of the
- 11:39economics that are shaping up there. So I'm very looking much, very much
- 11:41forward to putting that into the public domain. Beyond that, it'll be getting
- 11:46to the early stages of the feasibility study as well as continuing the environmental cultural
- 11:50baseline studies that will position us to be to be in a position to potentially
- 11:58enter the environmental impact Assessment process at some point in twenty twenty four, So
- 12:03that would be a key sort of regulatory milestone for us to formally enter that
- 12:07EA process is a significant sort of body work in and of itself, as
- 12:15well as again continuing to advance into a feasibility study. So you know,
- 12:18when we talk to counterparties, particularly those in the downstream of the battery supply
- 12:22chain, they are thirsty for nickel, They're thirsty for it to come online
- 12:26as quickly as possible. And we're certainly, you know, advancing Baptiste according
- 12:33to that kind of need that we see out there, while at the same
- 12:37time obviously kind of respecting and collaborating with our indigenous partners who are so critical
- 12:43to the success of the project. Yeah, well, you definitely have a
- 12:48full plate ahead for sure. Now let's just go back to what you were
- 12:54mentioning with the bringing on Keith Patterson Exploration finding, are right nickel deposits.
- 13:03I assume you're going to be aggressively pursuing that adventure as well. Absolutely.
- 13:09Yeah. I mean, you know, like I said, the Japanese government,
- 13:11via job Meck, is thirsty for more future nickel operations than that really
- 13:18starts with expiration. We have a demonstrated capability of being able to find these
- 13:24a Wawhite Nickel deposits. We did a significant amount of work on a global
- 13:28search for this style of mineralization about ten years ago now, and so we
- 13:33have a good sort of database and we have a bit of a rolling start
- 13:37into reinitiating that work really to be led by Keith and leveraging that previous experience,
- 13:43and we're really excited about the idea that we could be making new significant
- 13:48discoveries of large Wareawhite deposits to the benefit of FPX shareholders, but without FPX
- 13:56having to bear any of the costs of that expiration for at least the next
- 13:58two years. So it's really free upside for FPX shareholders. So, you
- 14:03know, investors who are really looking at you know, and motivated by expiration
- 14:07success can have that inherent in their ownership of FPX shares. But where we're
- 14:15actually bearing no cost and no risk in those in those efforts. So it's
- 14:18a pretty unique set of circumstances. A lot of companies, I'm sure envying
- 14:24fpx's position there, because to have the upside without the downside is rather unique.
- 14:31In today's investment landscape. So as far as geographical location of these deposits,
- 14:41are they in the North America? Without tipping your hat, are is
- 14:46this a global search you're engaging in? Yeah, I mean, you know,
- 14:50at a high level you can do a search on opiolites and on spent
- 14:54nights pretatites throughout the world using basic like publicly unveil available geological information pulled us
- 15:01by national geological surveys. At the light, we see prospectivity for this type
- 15:07of deposit in multiple countries around the world. In the past, we had
- 15:11visited something like a dozen countries, and I think there are some of those
- 15:16countries we can go back to that would be you know, include places in
- 15:20North America, places in Europe and elsewhere, as well as new countries we've
- 15:26never set foot in that could well be on order. But we do feel
- 15:30as if we have an important first mover advantage in this. Frankly, we're
- 15:33surprised to see that there aren't more companies that have, you know, that
- 15:37are targeting in style and mineralization, so that that first mover advantage is important
- 15:43for us to continue to preserve it and move quickly on. All right,
- 15:46Well, that's a good, quite a transition from just a few years ago
- 15:52to now. And in addition, the price of nickel has been cooperating.
- 15:58We're back over ten dollars a pound in spite of copper showing a little weakness.
- 16:04Can we infer or learn something from that relationship right now, Martin,
- 16:11Yeah, I mean they've been moving, you know, typically in tandem and
- 16:14price to copper price and nickel over the last several years. That that's an
- 16:17historical kind of fairly stable relationship. That ratio, as we've talked about in
- 16:21the past, of nickel price to copper price usually in the range of two
- 16:25to three x. You know, if people think about a copper price going
- 16:30forward, you see the copper price being you know, some people saying they
- 16:33see five or six dollars copper in the years to come. You know,
- 16:38that would imply if that ratio continues to hold a nickel price the reach of
- 16:42sort of ten to eighteen dollars a pound, that's a that's a very interesting
- 16:48price for a project like ours, where you know, we expect the operating
- 16:52costs in the upcoming study to be in that in that three dollar or so
- 16:56range, maybe a little bit higher, so a very high marching project throughout
- 17:00the cycle, particularly in your world where we're seeing elevated nickel prices going forward.
- 17:04So you know, the men and long term thesis on copper and nickel
- 17:10continues to be, you know, to me, just incredibly robust, and
- 17:15it's something that investors are still not fully attuned, fully and properly attuned to
- 17:19the opportunity. He's represented by FPX and frankly other companies that have strong copper
- 17:25and nickel projects set that they're moving forward. We really see this so much
- 17:30in the resource sector now, where the major players in the sector are in
- 17:36a desperate, almost panic search for resources, and the individual investor is kind
- 17:42of sitting on the sidelines, not knowing what to make of it, and
- 17:47not participating in what has become a global scramble for resources, especially battery metals.
- 17:55So I find FPX Nickels position here really interesting because investors are starting to
- 18:04pay attention, albeit minor interest perhaps right now, but it could indeed be
- 18:11an indicator of future investor interest, not only an FBX, but in the
- 18:17sector as well. Yeah, I agree. I mean, listen that most
- 18:21of the last ten years has been a very painful one if you've been along
- 18:25the junior mining sector right, so we need to continue to see you robust
- 18:32commodity prices. You need to continue to see strong performance quarter recorder, significant
- 18:37free cash flow generation by the large diversified companies who can demonstrate that quarter recorder
- 18:45for four or six eight quarters. Once those conditions are in place, then
- 18:48you'll start to see a trickle down of interest to mid tiers into the smaller
- 18:52companies. That's how it's been in previous cycles, and that's how I expected
- 18:56to go in the cycle as well. We totally agree with you. Hey,
- 19:00you want to go over to FPX Nickel dot com sign up for notifications.
- 19:04You will be getting a lot of them in the upcoming weeks and months
- 19:08ahead. The ticker symbols US fp O CF and in Canada of course fp
- 19:18X Martin. We will touch base with you shortly hopefully and get an update
- 19:22from you as to all the latest developments. Thanks lot, Harry, appreciate
- 19:27it. The Financial Survival Network