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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 060526 LIVE, - Names, Nations, and Nephilim: Theology and History with Brent Winters · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Alrighty,
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  Alvin, as would we. We try. Anyway, here's the Friday edition coming up at the bookend of the week.
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  And that means that mister
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  cohost Brent Winters will be here. Of course, he's not here yet, but he likes to be fashionably late.
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  It is the Radio Ranch Roger Sails and Brent Winters
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  on this Friday, the
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  fifth.
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  It's the June 5. Julio.
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  No.
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  Juno. Juno, I guess. Anyway, it's June. It's the fifth. We're getting into that, and, we've
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  got some folks that help us extend our reach here.
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  And, we've got a a cohost coming that's gonna arrive
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  shortly,
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  I think. Yep. So, Paul, would you be so gracious as to give the audience the,
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  the lay of the land when it comes to platforms that help us?
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  Unknown: Yes. One of one of one of my last couple of days doing, doing this announcement at the beginning of the show because as of Monday, I think we will be moving the announcements to the
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  middle of the show.
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  But Oh, we are? Okay. Yeah. From
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  fifty nine to
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  to one minute after the hour.
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  Unknown: He's do it. He's playing with the clock.
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  Unknown: He's playing with the clock again. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, it's you know, it's all the syndication thing that we're trying to put together. So Syndication?
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  Unknown: My god. I never thought I'd be syndicated.
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  Unknown: Well, syndicated,
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  oh, I have various different platforms.
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  You know?
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  That
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  will probably put us right back on StreamLife
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  as
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  well. So, and that's
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  million,
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  million plus listeners
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  a month.
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  Anyways,
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  we're on,
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  eurofolkradio.com.
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  Thanks to pastor Eli James. Thanks. You're on
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  .globalvoiceradio.net
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  and rumble.globalvoiceradio.net.
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  We're also on,
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  free conference call. That's how people
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  join us live on the show, and you'll find the links to free conference call, the PPN Radio Ranch Room
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  on our website, thematrixdocsmhmm..com.
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  Thematrix,docs,.com.
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  You'll also find a bunch of other stuff there too. Archives, tidbits,
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  interviews,
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  books.
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  You name it.
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  Unknown: Tidbits.
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  Unknown: Titilating tidbits of facts.
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  Yes.
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  Unknown: Titillating
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  tidbits of facts. TT
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  Unknown: TTF.
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  There you go.
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  Yeah. TTF. And? And?
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  I got him sidetracked there. And? And that's it. That's it. That's all I've got. I mean, it's really easy. I see. I'm gonna have to be creative to stretch that into two minutes after Monday. Yes. You are. You're gonna have to start talking slower. I see our cohost has arrived. That's always good. Morning, Brent.
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  Glad to have you as always, my friend.
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  I got a tidbit for you in the audience here. First of all, let's start with yesterday's,
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  English show.
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  Yeah. That was I don't know how we're gonna start. It probably only got about halfway through it. We had some technical trousers,
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  things,
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  and, we finally got our trousers all up, and they were fitted. Fifteen minutes before the end of the end of the show, we had some we had activity.
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  Anyway, we're gonna try it again. We're gonna step up to the plate here in another couple of weeks, so that's good. Always enjoyed being with Paul.
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  I just didn't get that was crackly
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  yesterday. I was crackly.
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  Yeah. I You got uncrackled there about fifteen minutes before the end of the program.
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  This morning, I was watching Brenda, this is for you too in the audience.
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  I was watching the latest,
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  Tucker installment
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  with a Englishman
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  named Frank
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  Wright.
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  Have any of y'all seen that yet?
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  It's interesting. The guy showed up last week,
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  maybe week before last in England with all the
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  my god, everything that's going on over there. And he and his son are walking down the street, and they get
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  questioned by a reporter. You know? Here's a guy walking down the street. Let's ask him. And he gets off and pontificates
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  with all this wonderful stuff, and he he goes on for,
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  oh, couple of minutes without even a single in their sun right there beside him.
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  And so the next time I see him, our people compliment on that clip,
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  comment, and compliment. It's very well spoken
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  in his English dialect,
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  which sounds like
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  who's the guy? David Attenborough? Brent, you know who I'm talking about? David Attenborough?
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  Oh, I remember him well. Yeah. Well, this guy's got Frank Wright's got that same exact type voice.
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  Pacing,
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  everything. You're gonna go, well, damn. That's David Attenborough.
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  And,
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  so he was on Infowars for an hour.
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  They picked him up,
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  I guess, earlier this week, recently.
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  Harrison had him on. Well, boom, if he doesn't show up on Tucker today. And I Brent,
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  you will be delighted with this interview from this guy. I'm predicting. Okay? You're gonna have to tell us next week
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  and and see if if I'm correct, but I think you'll just be delighted with this fella. He is such a wonderful intellect
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  and his whole story and his whole awakening.
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  And
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  it's
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  just really he's got that great, bright,
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  dry sense of humor,
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  and, it's it's very good. So I'd recommend all of you watch it. It's a way of coming up and go, well, what's going on with this liberalism
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  thing?
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  What is this liberalism thing that's been controlling us for the last century? Why is it all these false idols that's a dead end and all these different he makes wonderful
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  comments. Brent, I encourage you to watch it. I believe you'll be very grateful you did. Good morning.
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  Unknown: Well, wish yeah. But okay. So he'll be on YouTube.
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  And, who interviewed him? Tucker? Tucker.
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  Unknown: Oh, okay. I'm fine. The guy that they're floating the trial balloon on is running for the next presidency.
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  Okay. So who's that, Tucker? Tucker. It came out this week. Now whether that's a false trial balloon or who knows? I know I heard Alex say, of course, they're pretty good friends.
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  And, Alex said that Tucker told him personally,
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  the only way he'd run is if Jesus Christ appeared in front of him and asked him to.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  he's been interviewing some people that
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  are pretty far out there
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  calling themselves Christians.
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  I mean, he's entertaining some of their ideas. Some of them are are not far out there, some are and for different reasons, but I remember this Attenborough because
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  he was the one that played Frenchie
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  in
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  Sand Pebbles with Steve McQueen
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  back in 1964
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  or whenever it was. Really?
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  And then he was also the one that played the
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  played Roger,
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  the fellow that was shot
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  in the great escape.
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  His name was Roger. I mean, his first
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  Uh-huh. Yeah. I remember him. I'd rather it makes me wonder now you're talking about he sounds like him. They're probably from the same place. I don't remember him from the movies. I remember him from all the wonderful
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  Unknown: narration he did on this great nature
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  pub
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  produced
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  by the BBC or whoever.
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  And he was always the voice of that. You know?
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  Well, I think I got the right guy. No. You might. I don't know. I didn't know about his acting career, but he got that just that quintessential
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  British accent and pacing and all that.
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  So that's who he sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. He played in
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  Unknown: Sand Pebbles. He played in American, and now that I think about it Uh-huh. He had he talked like an American, but he probably was good at doing either. I don't know. Wasn't that the China movie about China, sand pebbles? Yeah.
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  Yeah. Uh-huh.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, what but, anyway, this fella's
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  he just, some fella that got discovered off the street that's got his head screwed on the straight and He
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  Unknown: tells his story, and it's really fascinating
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  because he got caught in the,
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  in all of this woke crap who can't get a job. He's got a child, and later on in life, his wife have a child.
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  And so he's talking about his his weightlifting
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  friend that tried to join the military or something, and they wouldn't interview him unless he put down he was gay.
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  I believe. Even interview him unless he was gay. And so he had to go in and and put he was gay to get in the damn service.
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  And so
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  he say he's just really a humorous guy, and he's talking about how he couldn't get a job either. And so they had this child, and he's out walking in the park one day. What do you call themselves?
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  Trans mommies.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Because he had to put it down on something that he was trans.
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  And so he's out walking his child in the park, and he calls and sees another guy over there walking,
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  his child in the in a carriage. And he says, are you a trans mommy too? Yeah.
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  I can hear it. Very funny. Very funny. Very, also deep insight from this guy. He's quite smart. He's really obviously been doing a lot of reading and thinking on this, and it's just
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  a quintessential Tucker interview, you know, these days. Mhmm. Mhmm. Now I wanted to ask you about another one this last week that I didn't get to ask you about because I didn't get to watch it till after we had our program here together.
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  Unknown: You you guys hold up just a second?
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  I just wanna say,
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  Brent is talking about Richard Attenborough,
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  and you are talking about David Attenborough.
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  Unknown: David Attenborough. It's different Attenborough. Thank you, Mer. Well, Mer, you had I was kind of I was unconfident about what I was saying. So thanks for filling it in, but go ahead, Roger. Well, the one last week that I wondered about, he was this Russian Orthodox priest. And now Tucker
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  Unknown: is going back with a whole lot of biblical stuff. That's when I was hoping you'd heard it.
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  And, talking and tracing back, you can see what he's doing. I can't anyway. He's trying to go back and nail the Nephilim.
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  Mhmm. And and and and draw them back to today and who we're dealing with. Mhmm. And it's a pretty good interview. The guy's very,
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  knowledgeable.
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  I don't like it. He laughs a lot through the interview, which I didn't think was
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  a while ago totally appropriate, but it was still pretty good. I don't know if any of you have seen that. But, Brent, that's something you may wanna watch too. Oh. Tucker's cranking him out, buddy. I want He's gotta be the hardest working guy in show business these days. I watched that orthodox
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  Unknown: priest. He was an American. Yeah. Yes. He weighed about three hundred and fifty pounds and had a beard. Like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he he knew a lot of things and had a lot of stuff a lot of facts right about
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  well, I I thought they were right. I'll just tell you my my testimony about it, but I I was disappointed
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  because after all of his learning and all of his knowledge, it was good.
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  And he was a personable
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  guy also and we got to we got to the very end
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  and Tucker was asking the questions and Tucker has gotten pretty good over the decades of asking questions and it's hard work to be a good interviewer.
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  And Tucker finally said, well, what what's your conclusion about what the need is? What what's and he said
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  Tucker didn't say it that way, but it came out that way. And this fellow said, here's what people are wanting.
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  He said,
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  people are wanting
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  force to have significance in a relationship
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  to god, the the god.
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  And he said, what they're looking for
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  and what they need
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  is,
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  something to believe in.
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  Yeah. So and and he said what what what they're missing
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  is the church
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  and he's when he said that,
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  I don't care what else he said, he was so far
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  non christian at that point
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  that I wish somebody would have said something. Of course, that maybe wasn't his job but the church has not something to believe in. If the church has something to believe in, we're in trouble.
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  That that's so insanely
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  ludicrous
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  but most of the world
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  if they don't say it, they take that most of Christendom,
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  d u m b, takes that point of view and that was it reminded me immediately of that story and the best selling book
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  in Britain outside the bible in the in the year eighteen fifty four and five, I believe I got my ears right. People can check me out like Murr did. It was written by a French speaking Swiss
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  Swissman.
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  What do you call a guy from Swissman or what do you call him? Don't know, but he was he was Swiss.
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  But he was from the French speaking side which is the West Side of Switzerland.
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  He was so fascinated
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  with
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  the British
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  Christianity
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  which is different by the way than the continent by far.
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  You know, the reformation on the continent was only of the church.
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  The reformation in Britain
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  was of the church and the government and you the other difference is on the continent, there was always a leader in the different countries and groups.
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  In Britain, you didn't have a leader, you just had the bible being translated constantly.
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  That
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  makes a big difference and it reveals a mindset that's different and the reason for that is of course that Britain was a common law country and therefore
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  the common law is a Christian tradition. They they didn't have that on the continent. They had the Roman law.
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  And even John Calvin, a great leader, one of the great leaders, like him or not, he was the guy people looked to. He said there's something wrong. You know, he fashioned. He said, I'm gonna well, was the leader.
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  A very people said about John Calvin, he was nothing but a big
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  overblown brain
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  with short hands and feet so he could walk around and use his hands a little, but the guy was overwhelmingly
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  had brains running out his ears, but that doesn't mean anything. Well, it's like that Roman or that Orthodox priest. He was personable,
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  friendly, intelligent,
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  and well versed
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  but he had the foundation wrong so none of it matters but the foundation is the church is not something to believe in, to make you feel good. That's not what Christianity is about. Well this Italian,
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  he writes in the beginning of this bestseller book, this Frenchman whose name I can't pronounce but I'll say it anyway because as I like to say I enjoy mispronouncing French names and words.
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  The Abion, you can go look it up, starts with a small d as in delta and then an apostrophe
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  and then a capital a
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  and I believe after that, I it's just confusion. A u g something.
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  They spell it spell it funny, but but but
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  I that's a two volume set. The name of it is the history of the
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  history of
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  British Christianity or the history of Christianity, maybe it was just in England. I don't remember but it's really whatever it's called
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  is the history of Christianity on the island of Britain. And it starts with Joseph of Arimathea and his sources of course he goes back and uses the the
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  the most ancient sources and the original historian of England
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  and Britain really
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  was a man who wrote in the June
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  in the that'd be the seventh century if I got that right. Yeah. Yeah. And
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  his name was
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  I don't remember his name now.
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  On the he lived on the Tyne River, T I N E and his now his name was Bede,
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  b e d e. Oh yes. Bede was an Anglo Saxon.
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  He was the leader of the church south
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  of what we call today Scotland.
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  And Bede was they called him the venerable Bede
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  Right. From from Jarrow Jarrow from a a little village called Jarrow
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  On The Tyne that's coming to me now. And again, if you wanna know you wanna read a book about the history of of our common law
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  and especially in England and Britain
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  by a fellow who's never been there,
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  you can get my book.
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  I've never been there. I don't want him to go but anyway
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  Probably not a good time now, Brett. Probably not but I'd go to see Paul.
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  I would do that. Yeah. There you go. If I didn't you know what, I'm the old enough, I've seen all the sites. Oh I'd like you know, in America, you can see the most fantastic sites in the world. I've been my humble studied opinion. Mhmm. I've been to Europe and I've been to the Far East and nobody's got it
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  got it as beautiful as we do here. I mean we we got everything they got everywhere else only bigger, frankly. I mean, even the Himalayas don't don't impress me. There's there's something about them that's unimpressive
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  and boring, but coming back to
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  to the what was I talking about? Oh, we're talking about him writing Bead, the available the available bead. Yeah. So this this this French speaking
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  Swiss fella that wrote this book that became a bestseller in England and rightly so. I've read it more than once. It's a two volume set
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  and he could he could make it fun to read.
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  This Frenchman that well he was a Swiss man who spoke French but
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  he did a good job and he presented the material but he starts back and Bede was one of his main sources because Bede
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  was he's called the father of English history.
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  He was the first man to really set down back in the seventh century
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  and he goes back of course and starts his history
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  or really gets earnest about it
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  because he was a churchman, he was a Christian.
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  He gets earnest about it when
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  Joseph of Arimathea, the man that begged the body of Jesus Christ from Pilate,
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  Roman governor.
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  Joseph, tradition has it, this is not in the bible but it's there's evidence in history that he came to
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  to England and he was instrumental in beginning
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  a group there called the Culdes, c u l d e e s I believe
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  and
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  they were an underground group because Christianity gets killed back in them days as still around the world as true in a way, maybe more so by numbers.
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  But he was a wealthy,
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  a wealthy Israelite is what he was and
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  and he had the means to do some things and he came there
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  and
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  there was a fellow there. They're used to, of course, then eventually the some of the chieftains,
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  Saxon chieftains and landholders
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  became
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  Christian and there's a story about
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  and there the build these buildings like where the Caldys used to meet, that building is the foundation of some of the walls are still there.
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  You can go see them. I've not seen them as I've said, I've never been there.
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  But
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  yeah, there's a fellow there, I forget what was his name.
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  He was the first fellow I'd ever think about putting the bible into Anglo Saxon.
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  And he was a cowherd and a horse keeper, and all the rich folk would be in the big hall. They didn't have Internet and TV and radio in those days, not even printed books, so they'd get together pretty often and have a feast and and do some drinking, you know, and have a big fire going in the wintertime. What else are you gonna do? And they had a big hall there and and somebody got
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  well oiled and said, we'll call for
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  can't remember this cow herd's name. Bring him in here because he can tell us what the bible says. Now how he knew what the bible says, I'm not sure.
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  But what he would do, this fellow, he would put the stories of the Bible
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  into his own rustic words and they were fun to listen to
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  and people credit him with the man first to put the Bible in Anglo Saxon although he never wrote it down because he was illiterate. He of course Anglo Saxon wasn't reduced to writing until
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  the ninth century but
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  but
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  he spoke it out loud and he put it in the in verse. This guy was a pretty good verse writer, an Anglo Saxon.
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  His name I figured if I'd talk long enough but if you it'd come to me but it didn't. But you can go to the book Excellence of the Common Law and I talk about him in there about bible translation
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  into English. That's really where it kinda started.
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  But coming back to this French, I mean, he wrote this book about the history of Christianity in England, bestseller
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  back in the eighteen fifties,
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  second only to the bible.
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  And
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  he tells a story at the beginning of that book
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  which I've no doubt told here because I tell it a lot and if you've already heard me tell this, just be patient. There are other people listening maybe that haven't heard it or didn't remember.
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  But about this Italian who
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  apparently was some kind of a cleric, that means he was a priest or a monk or something, I don't know what he was.
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  And he
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  got to reading the bible and he got to believe in it.
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  Kinda like the Amishman does today. He'll start reading the bible and then he'll discover all that stuff about how many buttons you can have on your pants sitting in the bible and then pretty soon he's in the elders and next thing you know, they've thrown him out on his can
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  and didn't even bother to open the door before they threw him out, know, that kind of thing. Well, that's what happened to this Italian. They said, wait a minute. We can't let this guy be saying what's in the bible. That's our job. We're we're the priesthood and we're the church. That's what the priesthood is, the church.
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  Nobody else by the way, that's the official doctrine of the high church.
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  And so
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  they called him in. Well, there he was gonna be tried for his life
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  And if he didn't get the answers right, they didn't wanna kill him. You know, this is what they're added. Well, look, dude. We wanna kill you, but you gotta you gotta work with us a little bit here, and he would. So
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  they said, well, let's ask him three questions.
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  Of course, the church never killed anybody, they said. They'd always turn them over to the secular powers and let them do the slaughtering when dirty their hand, you know.
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  But
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  I said, well, let's do this. Let's we like this guy. Well, let's ask him three questions.
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  And he surely, if he gets one of the the answer to one of the three questions right, we won't have to turn him over to the secular powers to strangle him and burn him to death,
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  which is just
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  a sad situation, but it has to be done. Well, nothing personally I understand. That's the way they looked at it. We like you. Yeah. We like you and everything, but I have to tell you that. You're
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  threatening our money, you know, and we're getting a lot of sex from these nuns and and these little boys we got around here, we don't want you to blow a lid off of that either. Heaven forbid. No. Yeah. So
• 26:11
  so they had three questions
• 26:13
  and so they asked the first question. This he was on trial for his life and
• 26:17
  they asked the first question and they said, what is the first cause
• 26:21
  of salvation?
• 26:23
  Safety from hell. What's the first cause?
• 26:26
  He said, well,
• 26:28
  Jesus Christ is the first cause.
• 26:30
  Oh, okay.
• 26:32
  Well, they had two more questions left. He got that one wrong. They said, well, what's the second cause?
• 26:38
  Well,
• 26:40
  oh well, I'd have to say Jesus Christ because the bible says that he's the the beginning and the end and the middle of everything.
• 26:47
  He's the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end and everything is of him, through him, and back to him. All all creation exists for his purposes
• 26:58
  and his glory. So that I'd have to say that second question.
• 27:01
  Oh, I said, oh, shoot. We only got one more shot
• 27:04
  at at a well, we'll ask him the third question. What's the third cause of salvation?
• 27:10
  He said, well,
• 27:12
  I'd have to say Jesus Christ for the same reason I've said before
• 27:16
  And so they convicted him and hung him. But while they hung him, no, they burned him at the stake.
• 27:21
  They're saying this they wasn't in America. They burned people. Here we hang people or we used to but
• 27:27
  that what they wanted him to say We still need to. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. What they wanted him to say was
• 27:34
  for one of the reasons of salvation or the causes
• 27:38
  was the
• 27:39
  the church which meant and still means the priesthood alone.
• 27:43
  They wanted him to say the priesthood,
• 27:45
  the church.
• 27:46
  That's what you need to believe in, that's who you need to listen to. We are the mediators of priests between God and man. Well that's what this orthodox priest said on Tucker at the very end. He said, something to believe in the church.
• 28:00
  But wait a minute, the bible doesn't say that. The bible
• 28:03
  says that is
• 28:06
  expressly untrue.
• 28:07
  So why are you saying it? Well, it's because his livelihood and his importance and
• 28:14
  and his
• 28:16
  Youth. His his largesse.
• 28:18
  His youth.
• 28:19
  Yeah. Depends on the church and if you can tell people you gotta believe in the priesthood,
• 28:25
  they'll fawn like animals like like like the bible says and I'm quoting the book of Proverbs, like a wet whore, wet and ready.
• 28:33
  That's what men will do. It's that ugly. It's that raw
• 28:37
  because they're desperate.
• 28:38
  I remember reading about this French priest. No. No. Say it was
• 28:43
  no. No. It was it
• 28:45
  was the confessor that worked for the pope and his I forget his name, names don't matter but tell the story.
• 28:51
  But he became confessor for
• 28:54
  Louis the fourteenth or somebody, one of those big shots in France.
• 28:58
  And this guy was getting old, and he was feeling awful guilty about a lot of things. Of course, if you're a king, you end up ordering a lot of you're responsible for a lot of people getting killed, you know, wars and all that. Plus all the other nasty things you do when you got more money than, you know, more money than cents as we used to say.
• 29:15
  Pretty soon, you're you're well, you got all the girls you want. You're stealing other people's wives. You're living like an animal and they all do.
• 29:23
  They all do.
• 29:24
  And when they have that opportunity and they got to feeling pretty guilt and worried about hell. You know, hell starts ringing at your door. If you have a lot of guilt, it's very painful.
• 29:35
  And the only way to get rid rid of guilt, of course, is
• 29:39
  Jesus Christ is the remedy to get rid of guilt.
• 29:42
  It's the only there is no other remedy. Well,
• 29:45
  and guilt is to the soul what pain is to the body and it can get so intense you wish you were dead. Well, that's the way this fellow was, had him in the confessional booth and he's telling I read the account of what he said, stuff like this gets out. This priest said
• 30:00
  to this other priest about confession calls, they're like federal judges. They get together and discuss cases, you know.
• 30:06
  Mean That's right. Help each other, learn how to get past or what if you got a got a guy comes in and he's a patriot and he says you don't have jurisdiction over him or something like that. What do you do with him? Yeah. And I'm not promoting that idea. I'm just saying judges talk and they go to the judicial council in Reno, Nevada. They're taught how to handle
• 30:24
  patriots and all
• 30:26
  their right doctrines and the wrong doctrines etcetera. Well,
• 30:30
  that's the way priests do and they always have. Of course, it's an intelligence gathering
• 30:34
  instrument that's been used for centuries. It's it's like why why did they have a post office in every little village in America? They established them especially during the war between the North and the South and the reason was to monitor everybody's correspondence if they wanted to.
• 30:50
  And that's you know, we have the Internet and that's going on. Well, they had the confessional booth in Europe for hundreds of years, a thousand years to monitor what was really going on, find out who's sleeping with who, and who's committed this crime or that, and know what's really going on underneath.
• 31:06
  Well, this fella or this this French king was confessing he was beside himself.
• 31:12
  He was he was tearing his hair out. He was scared to death, white as a sheet and this
• 31:18
  I think his name was Damon Damon. I believe he was the one that said to the pope, this is back in the October I believe,
• 31:26
  that your wish, he said to the Pope, your wish is my very command evil though it may be.
• 31:33
  That that's the end justifies the means. Well this fellow said that
• 31:37
  he told this French king, he said, listen,
• 31:41
  I can take care of your problem because we have the power to get rid of sin. We're the priesthood. We're in place of Jesus Christ. We are vicar of Christ. We are as the bible says, anti Christos and that's the preposition that means vicar in place of instead of in the Greek tongue.
• 31:58
  And he
• 32:00
  said,
• 32:01
  if you'll just
• 32:02
  if you just
• 32:04
  take your army
• 32:06
  and do what we tell you to do, I can get rid all this. And I remember the phrase that he used in his letter to another priest.
• 32:14
  He said, I
• 32:16
  boxed
• 32:17
  the king of France round the ears. Boxed him round the ears.
• 32:22
  Now he probably said it in Latin or Italian. I don't know. I was reading a translation of it. But that old phrase I've used to hear the older folks say that when I was growing up and I'm not Italian so I guess it's widely
• 32:36
  not that I'm against the Italian. Some of my good friends are Italians. And by the way, the Italians, some of the smartest people whatever lived. The problem with the Italians was they spent all their time thinking.
• 32:47
  I mean, who was it? Galileo figured out how to make machines fly but he didn't have a power source. They'd sit around and think. They could think up all the good stuff. They understood government. They understood
• 33:00
  mechanics,
• 33:01
  physics,
• 33:02
  astrophysics,
• 33:03
  astronomy,
• 33:04
  geology and they wrote it all down. Trouble is they didn't use any of it. Now I don't know what the block was. I think the block there was the common law tradition. It does release
• 33:14
  men to dominate their their surroundings. That's the policy
• 33:18
  of our common law tradition which is consistent with the covenant, the trust settlement of God made with Adam, Abraham, David and Jesus Christ came to fulfill it.
• 33:28
  It's a doctrine that enables us to enjoy
• 33:31
  the wealth that God wants us to enjoy as a people.
• 33:35
  The common law tradition is a Christian tradition.
• 33:37
  But he said he boxed him boxed him around boxed hell around his ears until the pope said that he would take his armies and do what the no. Until the king of France said he would raise French armies and kill whoever the the pope said to kill. Of course, they did that pretty regularly
• 33:55
  and even into the point of invading England on a number of occasions.
• 33:59
  It didn't work.
• 34:00
  Didn't work, but they tried it. But coming back to the bottom line, that's what I saw. You know, Roger, I you got things on your mind to talk about and that was a good point and I I listened to that orthodox priest and I thought to myself and
• 34:14
  again, tell the stories I
• 34:16
  probably told before, but I
• 34:19
  really got into radio
• 34:21
  when I was under federal indictment and I couldn't go anywhere else and I didn't have anything else to do and the whole of my legal practice Right.
• 34:28
  Nobody would come to me. You know, when you're in a federal indictment, nobody's gonna come to you and say, will you represent me in court and for the jury? Well, no. The the newspapers have already already destroyed your reputation. Yeah. So, anyway, I didn't have anything to do, and this guy had these four radio stations out of Terre Haute, Indiana at two FM 2AM simultaneous
• 34:49
  broadcast and
• 34:51
  I go on in the morning show with him and it would drive time. That's three hours where people drive to work. That's the best time to be on the radio. I learned all these things when I was there.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:01
  I was on there and oh yeah. I did tell this last week I think and
• 35:06
  people would call in sometimes, you get them all worked up and they'd call in and say, well, what do I do? I didn't know that you just like in the book of acts,
• 35:14
  you're you're you get people to where they're panicked
• 35:17
  and
• 35:18
  preacher was preaching there in the second chapter of the book of acts and and the the
• 35:24
  leaders of Judaism cried out, well then what do we do? They were panicked.
• 35:28
  So he was saying, man, you're going to hell. Can't you see that? You you blind as a bat or what?
• 35:34
  And
• 35:35
  what do we do? And it said it pricked their hearts.
• 35:38
  It made them hurt. In other words, it was guilt. Again, that'll get to you. I don't care who we are.
• 35:43
  God has made us that way and when
• 35:46
  when when
• 35:48
  a man is hit with guilt
• 35:51
  because we're all involved in Adam's fall, when man beholds himself within,
• 35:56
  he'll feel the bite and curse of sin.
• 36:00
  And when gloom, despair, and terror sees,
• 36:04
  if he contrite falls upon his knees then breaks for him the light of day, then the gospel may have sway,
• 36:11
  Then sees ye Christ of God the son,
• 36:15
  who for us all things have done.
• 36:17
  The law fulfilled, the debt is paid, death overcome, the curse allayed, hell destroyed,
• 36:22
  the devil bound,
• 36:24
  grace for us with God hath found.
• 36:27
  For Christ the lamb removes all sin.
• 36:31
  And by faith alone in Christ,
• 36:34
  we win. You see there's nothing in that little
• 36:37
  poem,
• 36:38
  by the way written by a Saxon shoe cobbler back in the Really? 1500.
• 36:43
  Unknown: Yeah. Ain't that something? Yeah. It's a nice little poem. Yeah.
• 36:46
  Unknown: I've never read anything that encapsulates theology so succinctly,
• 36:50
  so hard hitting, and so briefly as what this shoe cobbler wrote. I forget the man's name because it was one of those long
• 36:57
  kinda German names that I couldn't wouldn't remember. You know? But,
• 37:02
  yeah, he had it. Well
• 37:04
  You Yeah. Go ahead, Roger.
• 37:06
  Unknown: But I think it was Frank Wright in this interview that said something this morning that really touched me. He said,
• 37:12
  if if you don't like living with God, try living without him.
• 37:16
  Unknown: Now that's now there's another shoe call, we're saying. So you just take some fellow off the street and you think they're stupid. They're not.
• 37:23
  I learned that in politics. I'm recampaining.
• 37:26
  I'd be on the town squares and there were a thousand little towns in those 27 counties I ran in and
• 37:32
  and meet some guy's teeth are green, his
• 37:36
  eyes are red,
• 37:37
  you know. His skin is yellow. He's probably got jaundice because he drinks too much and got liquor on his breath, and and he got his head down because his self esteem is shot. His hair his hair is oily, and he just kinda shuffling down this. And you stop and say, well, I'm Brent Winters, and I'm running for United States Congress and I want your vote and
• 38:00
  what's your name? You know, you shake his hand and you don't really want to because you know no telling what's on his hands, you know, and his fingernail got dirt underneath
• 38:09
  caked up and hadn't had a bath in
• 38:12
  who knows how long.
• 38:14
  He probably working in a coal mine and got enter injured, and he's been on the streets ever since, and he lost his wife and his family, and who knows? But, anyway,
• 38:24
  I talked to him. You know, on him so and so. Well, what do you were you have you lived here earlier? Yeah. Well, I live here. I've talked to guys like this. I'm just using this guy as an example. Well, what what'd you do all your life? Well, I worked in the coal mine. I got injured, and then I haven't worked, and haven't had anything. And then the government this and the government that and always talking about the what was the name of that country song? The
• 38:47
  the government? Yeah. It was Roger Miller. He wrote a song called the government. Remember that? I don't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, it wasn't as famous as,
• 38:57
  as king of the road. Or Right. These other ones. Chug a lug, chug a lug. You remember that one? Sure. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. But the name of the song was the dead burn government. That was I do not remember. I sure would. Paul, let's see if you can hunt that one up. Yeah. Dad burn government. That's Roger Miller. Yeah. Roger Miller, the refrain.
• 39:18
  Unknown: And he had his way of saying It's dad gum government. It's yeah.
• 39:23
  Michael Gaddy played that on his show.
• 39:26
  Unknown: Well, I was close.
• 39:28
  Murr, dad burned, dad gum dad gum probably better. You know, where do these phrases come from? But, anyway, buy gum, now you know a guy who say buy gum, not dad gum, but
• 39:39
  coming back to what are we what are we talking about? I don't remember, Roger. Everything under the sun around here.
• 39:46
  I was gonna tell oh, I was gonna say about this guy that didn't know anything, and you get to talking to him and they just start slowly.
• 39:54
  A guy like that, if you Oh, yeah. Act act act like you're interested in him slowly,
• 40:00
  he'll start picking up a little bit. And pretty soon, a guy like that whose eyes are red and teeth are yellow, but he you find out he's a pretty nice fellow as the old song says.
• 40:10
  And pretty soon he starts telling you what his point of view is about some of these questions that are in politics
• 40:16
  and government
• 40:17
  and government as Roger Miller said.
• 40:21
  And you find out that he had thought it through more than I had on a lot of points, a lot more, that he showed more intelligence than most people I'd talked to.
• 40:31
  So God has made men in wonderful ways. We know I that little town, that town where I met the fellow I'm talking about right now.
• 40:39
  The town where
• 40:42
  the boy, the cousin
• 40:44
  that grew up with Abe Lincoln, it was first cousin Dave Lincoln, his name was Denny Hanks.
• 40:49
  And and his mother was related to the Hanks. I'm talking about Abe Lincoln. You know, they he started in born Kentucky
• 40:57
  and then they moved across the river to Southern Indiana to a place called because his mother passed away,
• 41:04
  a place called Pigeon Creek.
• 41:07
  And
• 41:08
  after Lincoln Lincoln was shot and every time I talk to a patriot crowd about Lincoln, you always got people that hate Abraham Lincoln, think he's a demon and all that. I'm not talking about whether I agree or disagree with Lincoln, I'm just telling a story about his cousin so chill out and listen. It's a it's a it's a enlightening story. Well, so Denny's buried right there in that town. Funny thing about Denny, he grew up where Lincoln was killed.
• 41:33
  And then Denny, he was walking there in the town square. It's the county seat and he was walking. A lot of copperheads there. And there was a riot there during the war and
• 41:42
  nine men were shot to death right on the square in this little town. So the bunch of veterans had come home and the copperheads were there and they got into a argument then they got into a gun battle and one slug
• 41:54
  it was all pistols. It was pistols. One slug, the boys were back on leave, see, and they had their pistols. What's
• 42:00
  Unknown: that? He's not talking about snakes,
• 42:03
  although they may have been. He's talking about a political party. Go ahead. Yeah. The copperheads were the southern along
• 42:09
  Unknown: the border states
• 42:11
  and the border areas, which included along the Ohio River, but a slug went through the no kid, went through the window of the courthouse and and
• 42:21
  killed the sheriff.
• 42:23
  Now
• 42:24
  things get bad, know. It's almost like you can't make this stuff up. Well, was that kind of a town, but when he got older, he was up over 90 years old and his hearing wasn't working too good.
• 42:35
  And he was crossing a road right there on the town square and a team of horses running away and ran over him and killed him. It's kind of sad. You know the same thing happened.
• 42:44
  Same thing happened to the last survivor of the battle of the little bighorn in the nineteen forties.
• 42:50
  And a fellow driving a a Plymouth,
• 42:53
  and that this Indian was walking don't know what tribe, he's walking down the dirt road and a Plymouth come by and this Indian had lost his hearing. He was a veteran of the battle of the Little Bighorn, of course, not on the Americans well, on the American side, but on the
• 43:09
  not on the federal government side, I should say.
• 43:12
  And he didn't hear him come. He stepped out in the road and this Plymouth ran over him and killed him. Wow. Yeah. That happens a lot, by the way. If you're losing your hearing, be careful. Don't be walking. I knew another lady that happened to, but that's what happened to Denny Hanks. But before
• 43:25
  Denny died,
• 43:27
  a newspaper reporter from big paper, of course, out snooping around trying to find things that people that knew Abe Lincoln and they heard about this
• 43:35
  this rustic fellow named Denny Hanks.
• 43:38
  By the way, Tom Hanks claims to be related to him. I don't know about Oh, okay. But Denny,
• 43:43
  the Hanks family from Kentucky. And Denny
• 43:47
  said,
• 43:48
  listen, he was telling stories and this new newspaper reporter said, good gravy. He listened to these stories about it growing up in Kentucky and Indiana and and then over into Illinois.
• 43:59
  And he said,
• 44:01
  good gravy. He said, sounds like you weren't much different than wild
• 44:05
  engines that roamed around you. You lived on dirt floors. You didn't have any shoes most of the year. You only got to eat what you killed,
• 44:14
  and you had to worry about the engines killing you every time you open the door to your cabin out there.
• 44:21
  And he said, yeah. We were kinda like the engine. We wore buckskins and we didn't take a bath that often in the winter because we couldn't get water warm enough.
• 44:29
  And had to chop your own wood, didn't even have a saw, had to use an acid till some merchant or somebody came through. So he said, yeah, we were like them except two things except two things that separated us.
• 44:43
  We we got to looking like them, we got to smelling like them, we got to thinking like them, we got to acting like them but there were two things that were different between us and the engines that roamed around us. He said what was it?
• 44:55
  He said we took
• 44:57
  an interest
• 44:59
  an interest in
• 45:02
  politics and religion and they didn't.
• 45:04
  Now that was a testimony of Denny Hanks. Of course, I say every person takes an interest in religion whether they understand it or not. Of course, when he said religion, if you understand it in the context of the times, he was talking about Christianity because that's all Americans knew. Americans had no concept, any concept for decades
• 45:23
  of anything but Christianity.
• 45:25
  Oh, the hotshot scholars and the eastern universities, they heard Islam and that these guys hadn't heard Islam. These guys hadn't heard of anything
• 45:34
  but Christianity.
• 45:35
  And by the way, Abe Lincoln and Denny Denny were raised
• 45:39
  hard shell Baptist.
• 45:40
  That's what they call them at home, hard shell Baptist.
• 45:44
  And a hard shell Baptist is a Baptist
• 45:46
  and that was very popular in the Wabash Valley where they're around Pigeon Creek.
• 45:51
  And still is and I've spoken in hard shell Baptist churches around the countryside at home but
• 45:57
  hard shell baptist are double predestinarians.
• 46:01
  Now you got two kind of breed predestinarians.
• 46:03
  I'm talking about Calvin and of course, Martin Luther, he was a predestinarian.
• 46:07
  Martin Luther was the father predestined. Well, in the modern times, he's the one that brought it to the forefront. The Lutherans don't follow Luther anymore, so they reject
• 46:15
  that. But
• 46:17
  even the conservative
• 46:18
  Lutherans, but
• 46:20
  he the the the
• 46:22
  hard we call them hard shell baptist. Now the the name they like anymore, they tried to change. They call themselves primitive
• 46:29
  Baptist.
• 46:30
  Mhmm. But what it means is you're a double predestinarian.
• 46:34
  That means you believe that
• 46:36
  God chooses some people to life, some vessels to destruction or to life
• 46:42
  and other vessels that he makes and other vessels people
• 46:45
  to hell.
• 46:47
  It's either heaven or hell and God makes the choice.
• 46:50
  Is that true? Well read the Romans and tell me that's not there but not that I'm a hard shell Baptist but it's not like they're they're so far out when it comes to the bible I suppose. There are other things about them that I don't understand but Abe Lincoln was raised like that. Now he rejected
• 47:05
  it
• 47:06
  when he got older and he got caught up in the humanism thing and trying to be an intellectual and
• 47:12
  he met a fellow named Joshua Speed when he moved to Springfield.
• 47:16
  And Joshua Speed took him under his wing and taught him geometry and
• 47:21
  classic literature. He read a lot of that. He got pretty good at it too, by the way. And
• 47:26
  so Lincoln, he hung on to that. But when his his son,
• 47:29
  his his little boy passed away when he was president
• 47:33
  Yes.
• 47:34
  Tad,
• 47:35
  Taddy he called him,
• 47:37
  he said that knocked him flatter and flitter. And
• 47:41
  he accepted Christianity
• 47:43
  is what the record shows. Now I don't know how much he practiced it. You know the same thing happened to general Eisenhower.
• 47:50
  General Eisenhower,
• 47:52
  I don't think Lincoln was ever baptized but general Eisenhower
• 47:57
  was the only president baptized after he got into office, baptized as a Christian.
• 48:02
  Eisenhower
• 48:03
  was raised in a home that was schizophrenic
• 48:06
  about religion. His mother tried different things like Jehovah Witness and a bunch of weird stuff.
• 48:12
  And but originally I think his family were Mennonite by the way.
• 48:16
  Kansas Mennonites and there are a lot of Mennonites in Canada. They were the Germanic groups you know that moved and
• 48:22
  settled. Actually, they're the ones that settled all that agriculture Well not all of it but a lot of it. They were responsible for settled a lot of that agricultural land. The
• 48:32
  railroads went to Europe and put placards up all over. They wanted what they wanted was farmers and if you're gonna find farmers, you go to the German speaking people or the Germanic people, the Dutch and the Germans. And they wanted farmers because they knew those railroads couldn't make money unless there's somebody out there plowing that ground milking cows
• 48:50
  and selling beef and hogs and whatever else they had.
• 48:53
  So they advert and those German speaking folk and some others too. Should say there were Hungarians
• 48:58
  that were German speaking, of course,
• 49:00
  Bavarians and the Saxons and then the Dutch. They had a big part of that and they moved into
• 49:05
  highway and and
• 49:08
  Nebraska and then Kansas, they German
• 49:11
  German farmers.
• 49:13
  But they
• 49:16
  covered the whole blasted state per near. You know, you can go to Nebraska. I remember driving
• 49:20
  through. I never thought about it, but I stopped in
• 49:24
  around Omaha, and I kept when I go into a hotel, I when I'm traveling, I'll just I'll get a free paper. Usually, I used to. They do that. No no more than they have the Internet, but I didn't notice all the names. They're always reporting on government. All the names were German names throughout Nebraska. You don't see anything else because they're the ones that settled the state. A lot of Iowa, they did. A lot of Iowa too,
• 49:46
  German farmers.
• 49:47
  That's a good thing, I suppose.
• 49:49
  Well, Roger, what I wanna talk about today since
• 49:53
  I'm Roger.
• 49:55
  Unknown: Somebody's saying something. Well, Rick's wanting to add something, but would just hold on to what whatever you want to talk about. Brent's great to me. I don't care.
• 50:05
  It's fascinating to me to just hear your recall of all these historical things. Rick, what do you got, buddy? Morning, by the way. Well, just a little info for Brent. Nancy Hanks was Lincoln's mother's name,
• 50:18
  Unknown: and there was a train there was a train that ran from Savannah to Chattanooga through Macon and Atlanta.
• 50:26
  And that name of that train was the Nancy Hanks, and I think they did it just as a slap in the face to Georgia after Sherman went through.
• 50:34
  Unknown: Oh, no question. Oh, there was some vicious there were vicious attitudes after the war.
• 50:39
  I agree. And it was the the war was and now you're off on that subject, but the war and Lincoln even said this. He told these
• 50:48
  ex existentialists,
• 50:49
  those are pagans.
• 50:50
  New England, you know, New England was Puritan, but it went south pretty quick and the leaders there were nothing but left wing wacko new age existentialists.
• 50:59
  And they ran the newspapers and it was fashionable to be an intellectual like justice Holmes and on the supreme court. You know, he was a veteran of that war. Got shot three times.
• 51:09
  Got shot three times. And then he finally said, I've had enough. I better go get an edumacation.
• 51:15
  And they became a supreme court justice, but he was a left wing wacko.
• 51:19
  I mean, wacko.
• 51:21
  Existentialist thought he was some kind of a well, he was an intellectual, but that doesn't mean nothing. It means you're stupid. A lot of cases like Paul the apostle says,
• 51:30
  ever learning ever learning, but never ever able to come to a knowledge of the truth. And I listened to that priest. I couldn't help but like him, that orthodox priest. And boy, he was educated in a right proper way. He understood the bible. He understood the Greek. He understood the Hebrew. He could talk about it. Talking about the Nephilim and I enjoyed listening to him, but
• 51:52
  at the foundational level, he's wrong headed. And so everything that he has,
• 51:57
  if if I can believe what he says, I mean, I found too. I have to say this, drop a footnote. All of us say things that and and and we hear things and we take it wrong and we we say, well, that guy's a heretic or he's wrong. Well, maybe he intended to say just the opposite and it came it got jumbled when the word fell out of his brain and jumbled over his teeth. I've done that. Yep. Yeah. So that fellow was enjoyable. I couldn't help but like him, but at the end, he said whatever he meant by it, he said the wrong thing. Go ahead, Roger. I thought the more important part of it was Tucker trying to dig in and find the answers to this
• 52:35
  common problem we're all dealing with. Who are these people? Where'd they come from? That's right, Roger. And that's maybe well, let me talk about that. Can I, Roger? You can do whatever you'd like. Brent, let's say,
• 52:47
  Unknown: Rick, were you finished? That's what you wanted to add? Yeah.
• 52:50
  They didn't call that the Chattanooga choo choo, did they, Rick? Go ahead, Brent. No. It the Nancy
• 52:56
  Unknown: Hanks. I rode that when I was a kid several times. Uh-huh. And went through a place just North of Chattanooga, South Chattanooga,
• 53:05
  Unknown: pardon me, where our friend Harvey lives
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  called Tunnel Hill,
• 53:10
  Unknown: where they had the tunnel through that mountain and that train without a doubt went through there. Yeah. I had where did you say that that the Nancy Hanks line started?
• 53:20
  I thought you said it. It went They should
• 53:23
  Chattanooga to where?
• 53:26
  Unknown: It went to Atlanta and then what? Savannah
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  or Macon?
• 53:33
  Unknown: Rick, we lose you? We lost him. Well, I can look it up on the Internet, but Oh, it it rang I'm sorry. I was There he is. I was mute. It ran from Savannah to Macon to Atlanta to Chattanooga.
• 53:45
  Unknown: Okay. Right. That's the old artery there. Well, having
• 53:49
  grown up and lived in that And, of course, let me interrupt. For some people that don't know this Uh-huh. The reason Atlanta is the city it is is because that's where the railroads north and south cross the railroads east and west.
• 54:04
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. That's what built it. Big transportation hub still for the airlines. I mean, huge. That's not the biggest thing we used to the biggest railroad hub in the Southeast.
• 54:15
  Unknown: Yeah. Which one was, Rick? What's that? Waycross.
• 54:19
  Wait. The Waycross Railroad?
• 54:23
  Unknown: No. Waycross is the city is
• 54:26
  Unknown: the biggest
• 54:27
  Unknown: cross of of railroad in the Southeast, Waycross, Georgia. Okay. Waycross, Georgia. Okay. I used to say when I was young, even people that no matter where you went, you had to go through Atlanta, and even people that go to hell have to go through Atlanta. That that's you say. That's that's correct. You you heard that too when you were down there? I did. You wanna live there. If you were going to hell, you had to go through Hartsville. Well,
• 54:51
  we're I was gonna make a distinction between moralism
• 54:54
  and
• 54:56
  law and Christianity.
• 54:59
  I wanted to make a point of this, maybe I won't, but I'll say it, but Christianity is not based on morality.
• 55:06
  Now that's clear in the bible. Christianity
• 55:09
  is based on law and law and morality in the ancient world and even yet today are two different things. Absolutely two different things.
• 55:17
  The word moral is from is a Latin word, more.
• 55:21
  The moors we say of people Mhmm. That are that's just their customs. It has nothing to do with what And God
• 55:27
  the customs get real ugly and crazy. Can. And the custom customs
• 55:32
  are often very evil and so to talk about morals is not you won't find that word in the bible anyway anywhere by the way, moral.
• 55:40
  But you find the word law and there are many words for law and not just one, there are many. Hebrew and Greek words both and they have distinct meanings and it's all about God's will and not man's morality. And morality is man's, it's not God's.
• 55:54
  Christianity
• 55:55
  is not a moral order as
• 55:57
  a b Bruce said. He wrote a book called The the moral order and no. No. He wrote a book called the providential order. He was a Brit by the way.
• 56:07
  A clergyman of the Anglican church, he his point in the book was that Christianity
• 56:12
  is a providential order, not a moral order.
• 56:15
  God provides everything, everything. There's nothing you've got even your will and ability to choose is from God
• 56:22
  and even what you choose is from God and everything you have is from God and there's nothing you have that you have not received from above to quote the bible little more distinctly and me too. I'm just making that point. We are creatures.
• 56:36
  God created us, that's what a creature is. I said that not too long ago in the air a couple years
• 56:42
  and boy some fella tried to climb my frame.
• 56:45
  I'm not a creature, I'm a man. No. No. You're a creature.
• 56:49
  Men are creatures. That that's a word that means they were created. They're not creator,
• 56:54
  they are created.
• 56:56
  We are creatures
• 56:57
  just like everything else around us is created.
• 57:00
  Creaturely as we say. Well,
• 57:03
  getting back to the Nephilim.
• 57:06
  Yeah. He he that fella did a good job, but didn't he didn't close it right. But the Nephilim first appear
• 57:14
  in the sixth chapter of Genesis
• 57:17
  and it's the Nephilim was something that people
• 57:20
  didn't know about until recently. It was never to the forefront in my lifetime
• 57:25
  and it was taught of course in some of the bible schools and seminaries to create create preacher
• 57:31
  boys that were familiar with the bible, but the the the three or four theories that have been put forth through church history of what the Nephilim are. It's not part of popular Christianity,
• 57:41
  of course. That's a rather priestly thing to do. We need to talk about it because the Nephilim
• 57:46
  first appear
• 57:48
  in the sixth chapter of Genesis,
• 57:50
  and that's a theme throughout the Bible.
• 57:53
  It's woven through the warp and the woof, the text of the context,
• 57:57
  cover to cover and lid to lid.
• 57:59
  Matter of fact, you could even go before the Nephilim and say, this happened before from what's said in the prophets.
• 58:05
  But we see them throughout the Bible and Roger you put, I thought said it well. You said, who are these people we're dealing with now? Are they Nephilim? And that's the ultimate question.
• 58:15
  As I get older, I look around and I say how? Roger, you tell me your testimony on this.
• 58:21
  I'm telling you what I think and feel when I see the evil, the brutality,
• 58:27
  the utter, the callousness beyond anything that I could imagine in my worst nightmare.
• 58:32
  When I see the secretary of state of The United States and hear the secretary, former secretary say, yeah I think I made the right choice withholding
• 58:40
  medical
• 58:42
  supplies
• 58:43
  from
• 58:45
  Iran and
• 58:47
  over a million children died because of it. I think I made the right choice.
• 58:52
  When I see that kind of callousness,
• 58:55
  I say
• 58:56
  who are these people?
• 58:58
  When I when there's like this one doctor told me, I talked to or doctor, no. He wasn't a doctor. He was in the medical community. I will not say what because I don't want to give a hint of his identity. He hasn't given me that permission. But when he said back in 2020,
• 59:12
  and he's he's in his seventies now.
• 59:15
  When I saw
• 59:16
  that COVID, I finally figured out they're trying to murder all of us. Yep. I said, who are you you ask yourself, who are these creatures?
• 59:26
  What kind of animals? Well, no. Worse than animals. I like animals, dogs, sheep, cattle. You know, they got a good side to them. These are worse these are not they're worse than just plum animals. They're worse than ravening beasts.
• 59:39
  Unknown: They don't wanna kill to eat. They just wanna kill to kill. And I don't think they've got a good side too. No. No. Well If it is, it's fake to try and suck you in to their diverse
• 59:51
  sync psychopathic
• 59:53
  personality
• 59:53
  Unknown: on the other side. Yeah. There's a blood lust there of killing. There is. Of killing. You know, there are we talked about this. Oh, last time. Yeah. We did. And I said,
• 1:00:03
  made mention. I had a lively discussion.
• 1:00:05
  There are about
• 1:00:07
  three or four words in the Greek tongue. The New Testament's written in a dialect of the Greek tongue called
• 1:00:13
  Koine Greek,
• 1:00:15
  which are the sailors Greek of the Roman Empire, the pigeon Greek, the trade language, it's a low Greek.
• 1:00:21
  Pretty rough, but boy it gets the point across and that's the important thing with God's word. Well, there are about three or four words in the Greek tongue
• 1:00:29
  that refer to love, but different aspects of love like eros in the Greek tongue Mhmm. Refers to sexual passion, if you wanna call that love.
• 1:00:40
  That's not in the bible. The word eros and many that root word doesn't appear anywhere. But then there's a word called
• 1:00:47
  agape,
• 1:00:48
  which is very famous. That's the love of God which has nothing to do with emotions. It has only to do with doing what God says to do whether you like it or not, following orders. Let's put it bluntly. That's what Agape is. Doing what God says
• 1:01:02
  and loving the unlovable.
• 1:01:05
  Like the kind of guy I said I met on the street that nobody'd have anything to do with because his eyes were red and his teeth were yellow and his and that kind of thing. His breath smell like liquor.
• 1:01:15
  Well, and he looked like he was had a hookworm or something. You don't wanna get close to him.
• 1:01:20
  Then so you got the word agape on one end, eros on the other. And the middle are two other words.
• 1:01:26
  Which
• 1:01:28
  speaks of brotherly
• 1:01:30
  affection and love, the kind of thing that just draws you to your kith and kin because you love them.
• 1:01:36
  Your friends,
• 1:01:37
  you give them a hearty handshake when you see them. You say, it does me good to see you. I'm I miss your voice. So that's
• 1:01:45
  a good
• 1:01:46
  thing and it's natural.
• 1:01:48
  So in the middle between those two extremes, eros which can be absolutely abusive
• 1:01:53
  And agape which is utterly selfless
• 1:01:56
  and altruistic.
• 1:01:57
  In the middle are two things that are good. One of them is phileo,
• 1:02:02
  brotherly kindness and love and affection.
• 1:02:04
  But and that's in the bible.
• 1:02:06
  A fellow
• 1:02:07
  Philadelphia,
• 1:02:08
  I'd said this last time
• 1:02:10
  is
• 1:02:11
  Philos and Adel Fos, brotherly love. Adel Fos is brother
• 1:02:15
  and Philos is brotherly kind of love. But Okay. Agape is different than that. But then there's a word called pronounced, I believe I'll get it right, storge.
• 1:02:25
  Storge.
• 1:02:26
  And when you look at storge and you really try to dig into it as I have done and try to trace it back etymologically,
• 1:02:34
  It's in the bible once I think, maybe twice you can look it up. But what storge refers to is from from the word stork, the bird.
• 1:02:43
  And storks
• 1:02:44
  you know, even in our culture, storks are credited with delivering babies. Mhmm. And that that come from ancient world, know, you can see the picture of the stork with the baby hung in a blanket Yeah. It's beacon, it drops it on somebody's doorstep.
• 1:02:58
  Well,
• 1:03:00
  the storks were known for being exceedingly tender with their young.
• 1:03:05
  But the truth is, I've been around growing up on the farm, you're around a lot of animal and you see a lot of wild critters around. I've never seen a
• 1:03:13
  domesticated critter or a wild kid or a critter that wasn't exceedingly
• 1:03:17
  tender with its young. I mean, even the gators down in Louisiana,
• 1:03:21
  they lay their eggs in the sand, and when the babies hatch out, they pick them up one by one in their mouths with their teeth and gently carry them to the water and turn them loose.
• 1:03:31
  That
• 1:03:32
  gentle, know.
• 1:03:34
  And
• 1:03:35
  so storge though refers to the gentleness.
• 1:03:38
  The undescribable,
• 1:03:40
  unlimited commitment of gentleness
• 1:03:43
  that all beasts, even ravenous beasts
• 1:03:46
  have with their young.
• 1:03:48
  So those are the four words that the Greek tongue has. I gotta say, I've heard of the other three. I've never heard of that before. Yeah. Storge is not talked about much and
• 1:03:58
  but
• 1:03:59
  it's obviously true.
• 1:04:00
  So you've got in the middle, you got agape on one end, which is doing what you're told whether you like it or not, loving the unlovable,
• 1:04:08
  following the law of God at every point towards the other fellow. That's agape, and the bible says it just the way I said it. Uh-huh. This is the love of god, the agape that we keep Total. Commandments. I've heard it referred to as total love.
• 1:04:22
  It's total, but it doesn't encompass those other three. So it's really not that's not total. Okay. It's ultimate.
• 1:04:29
  It is the love of God. Know, for God so loved Agape the world,
• 1:04:34
  what he do? He gave his uniquely begotten son
• 1:04:38
  and he murdered him.
• 1:04:40
  You know the bible credits the ultimate murder of Jesus Christ. This is uncanny.
• 1:04:45
  I don't want to call it murder but credits it to God the father.
• 1:04:50
  Using men and the book of Isaiah says that God the father is the one that delivered the stroke.
• 1:04:56
  But it was by his sovereignty,
• 1:04:59
  he gave his only begotten son. It'd be like you killing us, any of us, killing our uniquely begotten son for the benefit of of other people.
• 1:05:08
  That's how strong it it is but it was the reason it happened, the reason he did it for one reason.
• 1:05:14
  Because he is the God who cannot lie. The bible says there's one thing he can't do.
• 1:05:19
  He cannot lie and he made a commitment in that trust settlement to see that trust settlement through
• 1:05:25
  even it says in the
• 1:05:28
  the bible even to his own
• 1:05:30
  destruction.
• 1:05:32
  And Jesus Christ and God the father and the spirit
• 1:05:36
  delivered
• 1:05:37
  that member of the Godhead up
• 1:05:39
  to keep his word
• 1:05:41
  to his own destruction.
• 1:05:43
  That's ultimate loyalty of course, we call it and that's agape and his his word, his promise is his law because law is the will of the sovereign, what he is committed
• 1:05:56
  to do.
• 1:05:57
  Well, so those two words on agape on one end, one extreme eros on the other extreme.
• 1:06:03
  Eros,
• 1:06:05
  make the distinction,
• 1:06:06
  eros
• 1:06:07
  is selfish love,
• 1:06:09
  agape
• 1:06:10
  is selfless love
• 1:06:13
  and the Greeks had two words for that. And then in the middle you have which
• 1:06:17
  is a good thing, which is tender kindness of kith and kin and then even more tightly drawn and more specific is storge
• 1:06:25
  which is that undescribable
• 1:06:27
  undeniable
• 1:06:28
  tender love that
• 1:06:30
  mothers of all
• 1:06:32
  kinds of critters. Critters are
• 1:06:35
  American word for creature by the way, creation.
• 1:06:38
  We're critters in that sense,
• 1:06:40
  but
• 1:06:41
  all critters have this tender
• 1:06:44
  motherly.
• 1:06:47
  They know exactly what to do and they do it by instinct and
• 1:06:51
  that's why women fight by instinct. They don't fight on purpose like men. Men want to avoid a fight but once a woman is instant white hot and wild,
• 1:07:00
  warring as per spouse and child,
• 1:07:03
  if you're not committed to
• 1:07:05
  kill one as
• 1:07:07
  much as she is,
• 1:07:09
  you better get out of the way. The female of the species.
• 1:07:13
  Yeah. And that's true of all all females
• 1:07:16
  of
• 1:07:17
  all species,
• 1:07:19
  by the way. Been my observation.
• 1:07:21
  Yeah. My personal experience with them. They become
• 1:07:24
  instantly dangerous if their
• 1:07:26
  babies or in this case and their husbands
• 1:07:29
  are threatened.
• 1:07:30
  Well,
• 1:07:31
  that's a good thing God put that in them.
• 1:07:34
  Coming back to the the word love
• 1:07:37
  or the concept of love,
• 1:07:40
  whatever
• 1:07:41
  it is,
• 1:07:43
  only Christian folk have access or the option of loving
• 1:07:47
  the way God does. That's what the Bible says.
• 1:07:50
  Nobody else does, not that way. So loyal, that means loyalty.
• 1:07:55
  Duty,
• 1:07:56
  the true law is not even possible
• 1:08:00
  with those that have not been born from above because even when they do things that appear selfless and are good and for all of us. I've made mention of this last time. There's always a pound of flesh in it and that means it can't please God and it won't.
• 1:08:15
  Well coming back to the only Jesus Christ,
• 1:08:18
  a member of the Godhead, son of father pleases his father and if we're in him,
• 1:08:23
  those that are in him,
• 1:08:25
  he sees us
• 1:08:26
  through the perfect lens of the cleansing
• 1:08:29
  from all guilt and sin that Jesus Christ brings. He is the one that fulfills the trust settlement of God and allows it to continue.
• 1:08:37
  The man of God's own choosing as
• 1:08:40
  the old psalm says. Well,
• 1:08:43
  coming back to
• 1:08:45
  coming back to the reason and the Nephilim.
• 1:08:49
  The first mention of the gospel in the bible is in Genesis chapter three verse 15.
• 1:08:55
  And it says there that you've
• 1:08:57
  heard of the verse,
• 1:08:59
  Mel Gibson depicted it in the movie.
• 1:09:02
  What was that movie about Jesus Christ?
• 1:09:05
  Whatever the name of it was. Some Myrrh Myrrh knows everything she'll There's a there's about to be another one.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah. They got they got a sequel coming. Oh, they got a sequel coming. Put it here.
• 1:09:16
  Whatever the name of that movie was. The passion of the Christ. The passion. Yes.
• 1:09:22
  He depicts Jesus Christ in that movie
• 1:09:25
  coming down with his heel on the head of the old serpent, kawam.
• 1:09:31
  And
• 1:09:32
  that's the gospel of course and
• 1:09:35
  it says in Genesis
• 1:09:37
  chapter three, the old timers call it the proto euangelion.
• 1:09:42
  Proto, that means first.
• 1:09:45
  EU,
• 1:09:46
  that's a these are Greek words.
• 1:09:48
  And by the word, this word euangelion
• 1:09:51
  is all over the New Testament
• 1:09:53
  and we say evangelical.
• 1:09:56
  Oh. But the Greeks didn't have that hard
• 1:09:59
  v as in Victor there. Euangelion.
• 1:10:02
  Well, eu means good or well and euangelion means messenger or on the noun angel.
• 1:10:09
  So euangelion
• 1:10:10
  is the good message
• 1:10:12
  and we say in Anglo Saxon,
• 1:10:15
  the the good spell
• 1:10:18
  because our forebearers wanted to distinguish it from the evil spell.
• 1:10:23
  The shaman had evil spells and good spells, bad spells and good spells and they said in the Christian bible, the scriptures came to them how we're gonna distinguish
• 1:10:33
  this this from
• 1:10:35
  the evil spell. Only said this is a good spell. The Bible is the good spell, the gospel and it is at every point. But the clear mention of it says that the
• 1:10:47
  serpent will bruise the heel
• 1:10:49
  of the seed, the singular
• 1:10:52
  of the woman,
• 1:10:54
  but
• 1:10:55
  he
• 1:10:57
  shall crush
• 1:10:58
  the head of the serpent.
• 1:11:00
  Now this is the verse by the way, just to go back a little more
• 1:11:05
  that sparked as much as many other things too, but this was fundamental in sparking
• 1:11:11
  the Reformation and God used a
• 1:11:14
  Saxon,
• 1:11:16
  son of a coal miner by the name of Martin Luther to spark it off on the continent.
• 1:11:21
  And he
• 1:11:22
  panicked, guilt guilty. Guilty beyond belief. He
• 1:11:27
  emaciated.
• 1:11:27
  He couldn't eat.
• 1:11:29
  Radio was going to hell probably. Well, he was you know, I mean everybody is.
• 1:11:34
  If you're not feeling guilty, you ought to, you will at some point. You try to find ways to mask it. Money will take away feelings of guilt, lots of money,
• 1:11:43
  Lots of pleasures, all sorts of religion.
• 1:11:46
  All the false religions can
• 1:11:48
  can be a band aid for a long time on guilt
• 1:11:52
  and make you feel better.
• 1:11:53
  Oh, people can try to buy new clothes, get married, so and so maybe that'll make make me feel better, have children, maybe that'll and it does for a while but but
• 1:12:03
  you're still bound for hell without Jesus Christ, period.
• 1:12:07
  And the bible's clear on that. You can listen to me or listen to your friends or listen to the bible. Listen to the bible mostly
• 1:12:14
  and that's the fact of the matter.
• 1:12:16
  Well,
• 1:12:17
  that's the first mention of the gospel, proto angelion.
• 1:12:21
  I've had people say to me, I'm not one of those evangelicals.
• 1:12:24
  I'm a Lutheran or I'm a whatever.
• 1:12:26
  No. No. That's dumb.
• 1:12:28
  You're not an evangelical. You're not a Christian. But the Bible says that the word EU Angelians all over the New Testament that we say evangelical
• 1:12:38
  or we say the word gospel, which is really better. Evangelical,
• 1:12:42
  nobody knows what that means. They think they do. They never stop to consider the word. It's a Greek word. It's not an English word. We all use English. We're speaker. God gave us the English tongue, by the way. That's a gift from God to us. We speak it and our culture is wound up and bound up, inextricably bound with our tongue and God wants us to understand our Christianity
• 1:13:03
  with the tongue we're born with. The bible says God
• 1:13:07
  divides the world up into tribes and tongues
• 1:13:11
  and gives land to each.
• 1:13:14
  Let's recognize what the bible says about us and the Anglo Saxon tongue by the way is a good tongue. William Tyndale,
• 1:13:21
  he was a Englishman from the the
• 1:13:24
  first man to translate the bible into
• 1:13:28
  into English from the original Greek and the Hebrew and he said there's no tongue, no tongue that he knew and he spoke about seven. He grew up in a pretty wealthy family
• 1:13:36
  and he got a good edumacation,
• 1:13:38
  and he was in a merchant family of wool.
• 1:13:41
  Therefore, he talked to people from the continent and his his father and his brothers, and he had contact. He could speak Welsh. Now anybody that can speak Welsh has my respect.
• 1:13:51
  Yeah. Yeah. You know, Welsh has the longest word known in the world,
• 1:13:56
  Welsh.
• 1:13:57
  And it's I saw a picture of it. Somebody took a picture of it. It's a a train station of the little village by this name. I forget something like 28 letters. I don't know. You can look it up on that, but
• 1:14:09
  a lot of their words are like that and they pile Welsh is a tongue like what's that tongue those people in the South Of France speak? And a lot of them in America, I've met them and done business with them. The they're sheep herders and cattle herdsmen, and
• 1:14:23
  then they speak a tongue and nobody knows where it came from. They still speak it. A Welsh is like that. But fascinating
• 1:14:30
  thing about Welsh, and this is worth noting,
• 1:14:33
  Welsh is more like Hebrew than about any other tongue in Well that you can find.
• 1:14:38
  Unknown: Well Oh, yeah. And linguist. Uh-huh. That became real good with the because there's a town in Argentina down there that speaks nothing but Welsh.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah. It's probably down there in Patagonia
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  where all the 300,000
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  Jews are going. So they may just blend right in.
• 1:14:56
  Unknown: Well, well, of course, the ancient
• 1:14:59
  Hebrew is a whole lot different than what they talk over there now. But Yeah. I'm in the biblical Hebrew. Yeah. But
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  William Tyndale spoke all these different tongues by
• 1:15:08
  his admission eight, and he could speak them in ways that Wow. When he go to on the continent of Europe and then when he was hiding before they burned him at the stake for translating the bible, He could go from country to country and he could speak their tongue in such a way they couldn't tell the difference. That's why he was able to keep working as long as he did and not be killed. But
• 1:15:29
  he said that the English tongue is more suited
• 1:15:32
  to the Hebrew tongue translate from the Hebrew tongue than any other tongue he's aware of and I I can testify. I don't didn't speak a lot of languages like William Tyndale but I have spent decades translating the Bible into English from the Hebrew tongue and an old testament
• 1:15:49
  and I can give testimony
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  that it fits well.
• 1:15:52
  It's because it's so earthy.
• 1:15:55
  Both of them are not highfalutin tongues. They come from people who lived hard lives and said things
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  gutterly.
• 1:16:02
  Yes. Oh, boy. You know, lots of consonants. Of course, I noticed and you didn't notice the Welsh drum. Just look at their words. Look at how many consonants they have in their words.
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  I grew up with a guy named Llewellyn.
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  Llewellyn.
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  That's a Welsh name.
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  Yeah. And I still don't remember how to spell it, but it has a couple of l's and a y in it. But Yeah. And it got got a w in there too, I think. Yeah. You know, there's only
• 1:16:27
  there was a movie not long ago, and I have a friend who grew up in England because her mother was English, and her father was from the Piedmont, Virginia, and he spent his life
• 1:16:37
  traveling around fighting the bad guys. And so he was stationed in Germany, and when they went to Germany,
• 1:16:43
  then
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  she'd
• 1:16:45
  go with her mother and brothers back to England, and they were from near the Cotswold somewhere.
• 1:16:51
  I can't remember the name. Oh, I I
• 1:16:54
  know the town or she talks about it all the time.
• 1:16:58
  But
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  well, I forgot where was going with that one too. But coming back to the let's get back to the the blasted
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  Nephilim. So
• 1:17:08
  God God in his sovereignty and there was never a time he didn't know all that could be known and nobody ever taught him anything ever.
• 1:17:15
  So all the things that happened in the Bible are by his as theologian says, either by his direct cause or his indirect cause which includes his allowance.
• 1:17:25
  He allowed it and he had a he planned it all out and the gospel was spoken there and it said the bible says that god's elect are chosen. He chose them from way before the foundation of the world.
• 1:17:39
  He's gone for crying out loud and he's not that big a god. I don't what's the use of worshiping a god that's like us? That'd be silly.
• 1:17:48
  But he did become like us but of course he's perfect. I mean Jesus Christ entered the stream of humanity but his sovereignty never went away.
• 1:17:57
  If God reduced as the old timer said to us the span of a man.
• 1:18:02
  He is the one who accepted worship and didn't deny it. If he wasn't God then his his acceptance of worship from other men
• 1:18:12
  is a violation of the second, the first commandment,
• 1:18:15
  the second commandment
• 1:18:16
  and a whole lot other things in the bible. And one thing Jesus Christ never did was
• 1:18:22
  was break or trespass,
• 1:18:25
  overstep the law of God in thought or deed And he said, I came to establish the law, I didn't come to destroy it. Matthew chapter five.
• 1:18:34
  So the Nephilim come on the scene, is this all by the allowance and sovereignty of God? Without question it is.
• 1:18:41
  You know, God God does all that he does to glorify himself. He the Bible says he raises up evil rulers
• 1:18:48
  just so he can crush them and show how strong he is. We were talking yesterday about Job, my son-in-law said, you know, it just looks like in Job, you read Job, God just let the devil do all he wanted to do to Job except kill him. I said, that's exactly what it says. So why would we deny it?
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  The devil himself. The devil himself as
• 1:19:10
  reformers used to say, he may be he may be a devil but he's still God's devil and all of them are and they can't do anything without his permission. You see that in the book of Job.
• 1:19:20
  That's why we have this idea in the in Christianity of the allowance of God.
• 1:19:25
  The permission, the license
• 1:19:27
  and he will.
• 1:19:29
  And he did what he did with Job
• 1:19:32
  to glorify himself,
• 1:19:34
  to make himself appear
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  what he is. Yet powerful beyond our imagination.
• 1:19:41
  Holy other. We're coming back to the Nephilim,
• 1:19:44
  same thing. So it says in
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  Genesis chapter six, I'm quoting substantially
• 1:19:50
  the old King James.
• 1:19:52
  The sons of God
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  saw
• 1:19:54
  the daughters of men
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  that they were
• 1:20:00
  fair
• 1:20:02
  and it says that they took them
• 1:20:05
  and sons were born to them from this union of the sons of God and the daughters of men, daughters of Adam.
• 1:20:16
  And their sons were born to them
• 1:20:18
  and they were mighty
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  men,
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  men of old,
• 1:20:24
  men of renown.
• 1:20:26
  Well, the Hebrew is even more colorful than that. That's very poetic. That's something I remember even. Those phrases
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  have a lilt
• 1:20:35
  a lilt to them that is memorable and that was the reason for the King James translation of the Bible to make the phrases
• 1:20:43
  elegant
• 1:20:44
  and that makes them memorable
• 1:20:46
  and then that way and that way King James we can overcome
• 1:20:50
  the influence of the Geneva Bible.
• 1:20:52
  Because it's not elegant, it's accurate and there's a difference.
• 1:20:56
  Is the King James accurate? Oh quite a bit, gets the points across but the
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  order of King James to his 54 translators was
• 1:21:05
  when you
• 1:21:07
  have to choose between elegance and accuracy,
• 1:21:09
  always choose elegance because we've got overcome the influence of the Geneva bible.
• 1:21:16
  Well,
• 1:21:17
  it's beautiful though and I like to say the King James is a treasure
• 1:21:21
  to us
• 1:21:22
  not only because it's the word of God.
• 1:21:26
  Substantially
• 1:21:27
  like any translation,
• 1:21:28
  but it's the most beautiful piece of English literature ever produced.
• 1:21:32
  As the only piece of English literature ever produced,
• 1:21:36
  That's classic, that's been produced by a committee of how do you you know, too many cooks spoil the stew and 54 with a lot of translators.
• 1:21:44
  I think the
• 1:21:45
  Geneva had just
• 1:21:47
  over a dozen if I remember right.
• 1:21:49
  Wasn't that many. That's a lot too, my opinion.
• 1:21:53
  But coming back to the
• 1:21:55
  Nephilim,
• 1:21:56
  it says that these
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  sons of God
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  are Nephilim.
• 1:22:02
  Well,
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  that's the Hebrew word. The root word is Nephil.
• 1:22:07
  Root words are usually analyzed.
• 1:22:09
  You take the root of a verb and you say, let's put it there. We'll call the root the
• 1:22:15
  second person singular masculine.
• 1:22:18
  So nafal is the root and it means he fell.
• 1:22:22
  He fell.
• 1:22:24
  So the verb fundamentally means to fall
• 1:22:28
  and then you make it masculine plural in Hebrew and you put the suffix on the end like
• 1:22:37
  Nephilim.
• 1:22:39
  You know, we have the word in the first verse of the bible.
• 1:22:42
  Elohim.
• 1:22:44
  Elohim is translated God but it's plural masculine.
• 1:22:48
  Speaking of the three persons of the Godhead
• 1:22:50
  and his Elohim is used more than any other reference to the Godhead
• 1:22:56
  of three persons.
• 1:22:57
  It's a panel.
• 1:22:59
  A panel p a n e l, like we say a panel of judges
• 1:23:04
  in our common law tradition.
• 1:23:06
  So then the Nephilim are the fallen ones in the masculine. Well that fits because the sons of God took the daughters of men and they cohabited with them, that means they bred,
• 1:23:19
  use the old
• 1:23:21
  rough
• 1:23:22
  Anglo Saxon word. They bred them. Bred them.
• 1:23:25
  They didn't conceive them, that's the Latin word, bread.
• 1:23:30
  And they bred them. So they must have been masculine that would fit with the counterpart of the feminine. Now let's get back to the who who are these people? Let's go to the words and there are three or four words there that are key to understanding who they are. The first is the words, the phrase sons of God. Well, who are sons of God?
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  The bible says chapter three verse one,
• 1:23:54
  first John.
• 1:23:56
  The oldest and only surviving and only member of the 12 man jury that was not murdered for his verdict, that's John.
• 1:24:04
  He died in chains and slave labor at about 100 years old.
• 1:24:09
  An assault mine on the Isle Of Patmos where he was working as a slave in chains and that's where he wrote the book of Revelation. But he wrote the book of first John chapter three verse one, he said this.
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  What kind of other worldly,
• 1:24:24
  foreign, this is the Greek text by the letters, raw,
• 1:24:29
  I call it toward raw translation.
• 1:24:31
  What kind of foreign love is this? Outlandish,
• 1:24:35
  that's a good Anglo Saxon word. Really, means what kind of unknown outlandish
• 1:24:40
  strange
• 1:24:42
  love is this?
• 1:24:44
  That we
• 1:24:46
  should be called
• 1:24:48
  sons of God. And the word love there is agape,
• 1:24:51
  which has to do with
• 1:24:54
  with law,
• 1:24:56
  doing what God says.
• 1:24:59
  What kind of strange love is this that we by law,
• 1:25:04
  by forensic decree
• 1:25:06
  of the
• 1:25:07
  of the court of last resort of heaven and earth, that's what he's saying.
• 1:25:12
  What kind of love is this that we should be called, might be called, would be called in the subjective?
• 1:25:19
  The sons of God.
• 1:25:22
  I'm a son of God. Why?
• 1:25:25
  Oh,
• 1:25:26
  because here's the definition of that phrase sons of.
• 1:25:31
  I know I've said this on here before, bears repeating.
• 1:25:34
  The phrase sons of is in a lot of tongues, even the ancient Hebrew, even our present English.
• 1:25:41
  Sons of God,
• 1:25:44
  son of a gun,
• 1:25:46
  son of a bitch.
• 1:25:48
  Those are phrases that go across different tongues and what they mean son of means
• 1:25:55
  direct
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  product
• 1:25:57
  of.
• 1:25:58
  It's used that way throughout the bible in a lot of different context about a lot, not just of God, but sons of a lot of different things.
• 1:26:06
  Son of a gun, I remember. Yeah. We've talked about this.
• 1:26:09
  So son of means a direct product of something.
• 1:26:15
  I am for example, a son of my father.
• 1:26:20
  A son of my father because I am the direct product in the flesh,
• 1:26:25
  in the flesh.
• 1:26:26
  I am not a direct product of God in the flesh. I am not a son of God in the flesh. I'm a son of God in the spirit. I'm born of the spirit.
• 1:26:34
  I am called son of God.
• 1:26:37
  I am not the son of God, that's just definite article that's used when talking about Jesus Christ. Uniquely begotten because he was conceived of this bread of
• 1:26:49
  the other member of the Godhead, the spirit of God.
• 1:26:53
  So he's begotten in a different way than I. Jesus Christ is a son of God in the flesh.
• 1:27:01
  I'm not.
• 1:27:02
  I'm an indirect son of God. My
• 1:27:06
  Adam, my grandpa Adam is the only
• 1:27:11
  direct
• 1:27:12
  son of God of Adam's race and the bible says that in the genealogy of
• 1:27:18
  Luke
• 1:27:20
  Luke's genealogy of Jesus Christ divided into
• 1:27:25
  three groups of 14 each, that's six times seven, that's 42 generations
• 1:27:30
  and in that genealogy all the way back to Jesus Christ and then all the way back to Adam
• 1:27:37
  to prove that Jesus Christ is the son of Adam.
• 1:27:41
  All these different
• 1:27:43
  ancestors,
• 1:27:46
  none of them are called sons of God but when they get back to Adam and Adam
• 1:27:51
  was son
• 1:27:52
  of God. They got it right
• 1:27:55
  because that's what he was in that sense. He was a direct product. A son of a bitch and we even say in our own tongue is the direct product
• 1:28:03
  of a female dog and if you accuse somebody of a son of a bitch,
• 1:28:07
  what you're saying is you're nothing but a dog's whelp.
• 1:28:11
  And that's just of course intended to be an insult like saying, your grandma sucks eggs. Well, that's what we used to say when we were
• 1:28:19
  you know, to be an egg to be an egg sucker is to be we had we also said
• 1:28:26
  we talked about egg sucking dogs.
• 1:28:28
  If your dog is an egg sucker, you had to shoot them because they'd destroy your chicken business.
• 1:28:33
  And once a dog gets a taste of breaking eggs and sucking them, we call them egg suckers.
• 1:28:39
  Well, you're if you say your grandma sucks eggs, well,
• 1:28:43
  that's
• 1:28:44
  saying your grandma is no better than an egg sucking dog. That was the phrase they use at home. Funny. You remember that movie with
• 1:28:52
  illustrate the point. That movie with
• 1:28:56
  big big big country or something about Montana or something like Texas, and it was a western and
• 1:29:02
  and
• 1:29:04
  but it had some great scenes in it back in the fifties.
• 1:29:08
  Back in the red school shirt. That guy's riding horses in that movie that could do the tricks that that
• 1:29:14
  are impressive on horses.
• 1:29:16
  But
• 1:29:19
  Burl Ives was in the movie along with Earl Hetton and a bunch of other.
• 1:29:24
  Gregory Peck.
• 1:29:27
  Peck. Right. Gregory, he was kind of a hit hero of the movie.
• 1:29:31
  Thanks.
• 1:29:32
  But in that movie, Burl Ives Burl
• 1:29:35
  Ives is from the county next to where I grew up.
• 1:29:38
  And when I listened to him in the movies that he he says things that are from home, know, and he he makes that comment and he accused this guy's grandmother of being eggs. He said, your grandma sucks eggs and I thought, wow. I I remember hearing that when I was growing up.
• 1:29:53
  But
• 1:29:54
  to be a son of something is to be the direct product and so when the bible for example in Job says the sons of God,
• 1:30:02
  same phrase, sons of God
• 1:30:06
  came and presented themselves before God.
• 1:30:10
  And God said, what he been doing? And he said, well we've been going to and fro the hith feel,
• 1:30:15
  stem of the Hebrew verb to and fro throughout all the earth. And he said, if you consider my
• 1:30:22
  my man Job,
• 1:30:24
  not another man like him.
• 1:30:26
  He's right headed. He doesn't he he doesn't he worships me
• 1:30:30
  and Satan said skin for skin, I can make him so he'll curse you.
• 1:30:36
  Oh, yeah. You think you can? Yeah. I'll tell you what. You got him. Do what you want with him, but don't touch him. Don't kill him.
• 1:30:44
  Can't do that. You can do other things to him and touch him, but don't kill him.
• 1:30:49
  And that's the story of the book of Job.
• 1:30:52
  But the thing I wanna focus on here is
• 1:30:55
  it said to glorify himself, you see, we're back to that.
• 1:30:59
  He said, sons of God,
• 1:31:01
  The sons of God. Well, who were these sons of God?
• 1:31:04
  They were Satan and his demons. You can read about it in Job.
• 1:31:08
  Well, Satan and demons are
• 1:31:10
  are sons of God.
• 1:31:13
  That means they're
• 1:31:15
  direct products of God. They're like Jesus Christ said, they don't marry and and are given a marriage among each other and produce more demons which are angels, fallen angels. They were created as messengers of God, angels.
• 1:31:29
  But they fell from their position,
• 1:31:31
  their standing as it says in Jude.
• 1:31:34
  Now that word fall comes into that because the bible says they fell to earth.
• 1:31:40
  God hurled them out of the heavens and they fell to earth.
• 1:31:44
  They now are inhabiting the atmosphere the bible says, the prince and power of the air
• 1:31:50
  and that means down here in the atmosphere
• 1:31:53
  and they fell.
• 1:31:55
  But also another aspect of what the word means
• 1:32:00
  there is
• 1:32:02
  that they are the fellers, f e l l e r s.
• 1:32:07
  They're the ones and then there's a Hebrew verb that that means this,
• 1:32:12
  that
• 1:32:13
  they cause people to fall.
• 1:32:17
  We used to talk about
• 1:32:19
  we'd fell a tree, we'd fell a tree, let it lay for four or five years and then we'd saw it up for firewood if it was a big hardwood, a white oak or
• 1:32:29
  a red oak, you'd want to let it dry out before you sawed it up because it was too wet to really burn.
• 1:32:36
  But we talk about felling the tree.
• 1:32:40
  We'd fell it first.
• 1:32:42
  That was a old way of saying, I don't hear much anymore but if you are if you fell trees, cut down if you cut down trees, you are someone who is and there is a word, a feller.
• 1:32:53
  You cause something else to fall. Well clearly that's what these demons do.
• 1:32:59
  They tempt,
• 1:33:01
  they orchestrate temptation
• 1:33:03
  to cause others to fall.
• 1:33:06
  And if you fall,
• 1:33:08
  of course as a Christian like Barnhouse used to say,
• 1:33:13
  falling to a Christian is like falling down on the deck of an ocean liner.
• 1:33:17
  You get you get you may be embarrassed, you may look stupid,
• 1:33:21
  but you get up and brush yourself off and go ahead and play shuffleboard.
• 1:33:26
  They used to do that on the decks of
• 1:33:29
  of
• 1:33:30
  air ocean liners.
• 1:33:32
  But if you're not a Christian and you fall, that means you fall over the side and
• 1:33:37
  you're gone.
• 1:33:39
  So falling is an important concept and the fall from grace and all that and centers in the hands of an angry God and then time they'll slip and fall, all that. That's important in the Bible to understand the concept and how it applies to different people and the bible's clear about all of it. What I'm saying is just
• 1:33:58
  my testimony and my conclusions of what I found. Well these these creatures, these critters, these created things directly created therefore called sons of God
• 1:34:09
  fell and they came down they're down here in the atmosphere and they look around.
• 1:34:14
  These are spirit beings. They have no bodies,
• 1:34:17
  but now they have lusts.
• 1:34:20
  They're apostate.
• 1:34:21
  They don't get a second chance.
• 1:34:24
  God the Bible says God created
• 1:34:27
  the lake of fire
• 1:34:29
  foremost for them,
• 1:34:31
  for them.
• 1:34:32
  And they don't get a second chance, that's what apostasy is because they
• 1:34:37
  they rebelled against God knowing full well all the facts,
• 1:34:42
  they knew everything.
• 1:34:44
  And anyone who rebels a God again God knowing everything having received the enlightenment of the spirit of God. You can know a lot but not having you know, just because you know a lot doesn't mean you receive the enlightenment.
• 1:34:57
  People say I'm afraid I committed apostasy,
• 1:34:59
  the unforgivable sin
• 1:35:01
  because I I grew up in church and I knew and then I rebelled.
• 1:35:04
  Yeah. You may have known. I you probably did know who Jesus Christ is, know the doctrines of the bible. You were like John Wesley. He knew everything.
• 1:35:13
  He had several degrees and he said, I wanna be I'm a Christian. I now I understand Hebrew and Greek and theology and he went to Oxford.
• 1:35:21
  I wanna be a missionary and they sent him to Georgia.
• 1:35:25
  And he got to Georgia
• 1:35:27
  and on and he spent a long time. He coming back on a ship and he he got to realize that I'm not a Christian.
• 1:35:34
  I know a lot and I'm not a Christian.
• 1:35:37
  Why?
• 1:35:38
  Because he the spirit of God had not enlightened his mind to accept
• 1:35:43
  what it means by what it says in the bible. Not what it says. That's a lot of people know that.
• 1:35:50
  What does it mean? And and do I apply it to myself?
• 1:35:53
  Am I the guilty party here?
• 1:35:55
  He didn't have that. Then he went to a meeting in London
• 1:35:59
  according to his testimony
• 1:36:02
  and he
• 1:36:03
  there were a bunch of Moravians there. You know, Moravians had migrated there and they had a congregation. They're a Germanic people.
• 1:36:11
  And he was listening to the preacher preach and he said all of a sudden,
• 1:36:17
  my
• 1:36:18
  my
• 1:36:20
  distressed
• 1:36:21
  nature,
• 1:36:23
  I was tight wound tighter than a tick and that
• 1:36:26
  it just the bands begin to loosen, I begin to
• 1:36:30
  relax.
• 1:36:32
  And he said,
• 1:36:33
  my
• 1:36:34
  mind
• 1:36:35
  felt free,
• 1:36:37
  my heart
• 1:36:38
  felt warm
• 1:36:41
  and the light
• 1:36:42
  went on.
• 1:36:44
  And I said, no.
• 1:36:46
  All this stuff I have learned and he was educated beyond his intelligence by that time.
• 1:36:51
  All of a sudden,
• 1:36:53
  I saw that this is mine, it applies to me. I am the one that is guilty and I'm in need of a remedy and I know what the remedy is.
• 1:37:05
  Well,
• 1:37:06
  you haven't committed the unforgivable sin just because you know the truth and these these demons knew they they operated in the presence of God.
• 1:37:16
  They had access
• 1:37:18
  and
• 1:37:20
  and the
• 1:37:21
  enlightenment.
• 1:37:22
  They rebelled anyway.
• 1:37:24
  So here they are down here, they're spirit beings.
• 1:37:27
  They don't they can't fill it now, they have lust. They can't fill it without a body. That's why you see in the New Testament
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  that
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  that the
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  bodies of men are inhabited by these spirits
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  and they use the bodies of men to abuse abuse the bodies of men I should say
• 1:37:47
  Who and they destroy them, kick them to the curb when they're done
• 1:37:51
  and they are destroyed.
• 1:37:53
  And the bodies of animals, demon possession according to the bible
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  and according you can see it in life there
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  like things like that happen is what I'm saying.
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  Now we had a discussion about this last week and there were some people that disagreed.
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  I'm giving you my testimony of my conclusions
• 1:38:12
  of having looked very closely at the bible for many decades and having been having tried to translate it for the last almost well over
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  about well pushing fifty years, not quite yet.
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  I'm giving my testimony of what I've discovered.
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  Mhmm. What I believe to be true
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  and that doesn't answer all the questions because the bible doesn't answer all the questions and every time it says something new, it creates more questions. It begs more, that's true.
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  So these these are direct creations of God, They were thrown out of heaven. The bible tells us much about that in Isaiah and Jeremiah.
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  Unknown: They landed on earth. They saw the daughters of men. Roger, were you about to say something? I was because I can't help but think about something. You're about questions being raised. I've raised this for years.
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  Even with you, Brent.
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  And I've never been able to figure out an answer, and that that may be the answer right there.
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  Why did the good lord make every other thing on this earth, animal, and everything else where the male
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  is the more attractive of the species,
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  and the female is always drab and brown.
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  Is this the reason he made females attractive
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  to attract the Nephilim?
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  Unknown: Well, see, these are the thing god wants you and me and all of us individually.
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  Glad you brought it up that way to go to the Bible and think of think it through. Now remember your conclusions,
• 1:39:37
  if the Bible does not say
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  as a fact that what you said for example is true,
• 1:39:45
  we must be careful not to say I know that's true because we don't.
• 1:39:49
  We don't have any evidence that that's true but Roger,
• 1:39:53
  there are things we dots we connect in our minds that we may say I I think I've got something here.
• 1:39:59
  But I'm personally when I teach the bible, if I don't have direct evidence
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  of it.
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  For example, the idea you came up with which is sensible of course.
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  If I don't have evidence of it, certainly in this case, but here's what they saw. Think of this Roger, I didn't finish the definition again of the words but
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  looked at or the conclusion I've come to. The Bible doesn't say that these
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  Nephilim, these fallen ones
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  that they saw the daughters of men
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  and they were beautiful.
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  As the King James says, fair.
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  And the word fair means
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  attractive
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  To
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  look at, attractive to look at, that's not what it says.
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  The Hebrew word there is not
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  Japheth. You see the word Japheth
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  or Japheth, the son of Noah, there are three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth.
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  Shem,
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  Japheth means
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  physically attractive to look at.
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  Oh. Trans
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  the father of the European races.
• 1:41:04
  Why he was named that? It seems we're not sure.
• 1:41:08
  But of course, Ham, the father of the African races
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  and also the Canaanite race and others
• 1:41:15
  and by the way,
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  the
• 1:41:19
  a lot of the oriental races such as the Chinese, the genealogy is clear there.
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  They were Hamites.
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  Well ham means burnt or charcoal or black.
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  Well, that figures in.
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  Means
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  attractive
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  or physically good good looking as the English word, good looking.
• 1:41:40
  Good looking, there's the word good.
• 1:41:43
  But the word for intrinsically wholesome good is tov in Hebrew.
• 1:41:47
  When God made the world, he said he saw that it was good. Tov.
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  Tov.
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  The famous that greeting among
• 1:41:57
  Hebrew speakers is still and this is taken from the bible.
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  Boker Tov.
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  Boker Tov which means
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  morning,
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  good,
• 1:42:07
  good morning.
• 1:42:08
  But tov there, the word tov doesn't mean good looking.
• 1:42:13
  It means intrinsically
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  intrinsically
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  good,
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  wholesome,
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  healthy,
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  Unknown: strong.
• 1:42:22
  Unknown: If I say an oak tree is tove, I mean it's strong. On the inside, it's healthy.
• 1:42:27
  If I say a man is tove, if I say morning is tove, I mean it's a good morning. The sun's up. Everything is good with the world. Even though it may be attractive and beautiful, that's not what that word stresses.
• 1:42:41
  So when the bible says that those demons saw that those
• 1:42:46
  those daughters of men, those girls
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  were told,
• 1:42:50
  it means what they saw in them was and this is something I picture in my mind just because somehow I got it in my head when I was a kid. When I think about these women being told and I I
• 1:43:01
  think of
• 1:43:03
  again, going back to the German people,
• 1:43:06
  the Germanic people.
• 1:43:08
  The Germanic
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  farm woman is a big healthy woman that cooks a lot of bread,
• 1:43:15
  milks a lot of cows, eats a lot of butter, and she's physically strong and she could heft a bag of flour and pull a plow.
• 1:43:23
  That's what I think of.
• 1:43:24
  I'm exaggerating a little but not a lot, but German women kinda had that reputation of being inwardly strong,
• 1:43:32
  muscly, powerful
• 1:43:34
  and of course they're beautiful too. I shouldn't say that but that's not what I'm stressing here and that's not what the Hebrew text stresses. They saw these gals and they said, these are healthy women that can bear babies.
• 1:43:45
  That can nurture babies, that can take care of babies, that can defend babies, that kind of thing.
• 1:43:52
  And they
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  that's why they took to them as wives
• 1:43:56
  Unknown: or as women. Yeah. Yeah. We've got new students that's East German.
• 1:44:01
  Uh-huh. From East Germany? She's probably listening. Yeah. Originally, she's naturalized and all that. She just stumbled on us and pretty enthusiastic
• 1:44:09
  about what we do. Probably listening today. Anyway,
• 1:44:13
  Unknown: interesting the folks Now that you've told me that, I've gotta back up and I've gotta tend to the sensibilities
• 1:44:18
  of a female here for a minute. Yeah. And say I had a cousin and I did, a first cousin. I still got him. One of his girlfriends we were growing up was from a German settlement, a Lutheran German settlement
• 1:44:32
  and
• 1:44:33
  he went with a girl there and she would drop dead gorgeous.
• 1:44:38
  So yeah, they're pretty too. I'm not saying they're not I'm
• 1:44:42
  just saying
• 1:44:43
  that
• 1:44:44
  this word means
• 1:44:46
  and it stresses, that's what synonyms do, they stress different aspects
• 1:44:50
  of the same thing.
• 1:44:51
  If a woman is pretty on the outside, that's evidence there's health on the inside. Mhmm. But the stress here is what's
• 1:44:59
  on the inside? And what I take from it is that they they were able to bear, and they did bear children to them who were mighty men, men of old,
• 1:45:08
  men of renown. Now there's more clues there about who these Nephilim are.
• 1:45:14
  And
• 1:45:15
  it says that they were men of renown.
• 1:45:19
  The Hebrew text says that they were men of the name.
• 1:45:23
  The word for name which in Hebrew is shame, name.
• 1:45:27
  Men of the name, they were well known, they were men of reputation, they were men and here's what happened. Here's what happened to me.
• 1:45:35
  I'm looking at this when I was in I was about 30 years old and I had a book
• 1:45:40
  that was
• 1:45:42
  Cassell's
• 1:45:43
  Dictionary of the Latin Tongue and it was the it was the go to book for me for Latin.
• 1:45:49
  It's still a good one by the way, written a long time ago but it's a classic.
• 1:45:54
  And I was reading in there about
• 1:45:58
  about the about the Island Of Crete and
• 1:46:02
  some things about the Island Of Crete and of course Paul said, he quotes
• 1:46:07
  the the wisdom of a
• 1:46:09
  Roman proverb, all creations all cretins are liars,
• 1:46:13
  slow bellies, that's in the bible.
• 1:46:16
  He said it's true. He substantiated the proverb
• 1:46:19
  to a young man who was leader of a church on the Island Of Crete and that was Timothy.
• 1:46:25
  He said remember these Christians, all of them are liars. Well, that's probably true. That's what non christianity
• 1:46:31
  will make all men. That's why we're trying to deal with the Iranians. They're all liars. You're stupid to believe anything they tell you and if they're just laughing because that's their culture.
• 1:46:41
  Islam is a culture of they admire a good liar as does
• 1:46:45
  an actor, you know, as does Babylonian Judaism. That's why they're into Hollywood so heavily
• 1:46:53
  because it's all a matter of pretending
• 1:46:55
  to be somebody you are. Well Anything that can create illusions,
• 1:46:59
  Unknown: they're into.
• 1:47:00
  Unknown: No. Like Sigvered
• 1:47:02
  and Roy. Yeah. All of that. You know, it's all illusionary.
• 1:47:06
  Anyway,
• 1:47:07
  he said that about the Cretans,
• 1:47:09
  and he told Timothy to watch it. And remember Timothy's
• 1:47:15
  well, that's
• 1:47:17
  I'm backing up. So get back to the Nephilim.
• 1:47:20
  So I'm reading in this Latin dictionary and all of a sudden, I I don't know. I was reading about the leader of Crete,
• 1:47:27
  the emperor of Crete,
• 1:47:30
  and his name was
• 1:47:31
  Toros
• 1:47:33
  Minas. Tora Minas. Tora Minas, I think.
• 1:47:37
  Well, Tora, you know what Tora mean? Toros. Bull. Bull. Yeah. You know, bull fights Tora Tora, you know, Toro Toro and whatever.
• 1:47:45
  Well, that's a Latin based word, Spanish and Latin based. And I got to reading about this leader
• 1:47:51
  and I got interested and I said, wow, that's odd. And I got to read more about him.
• 1:47:57
  And
• 1:47:59
  he was a man who
• 1:48:02
  according to all the information we have about him, he had a the head of a bull with horns
• 1:48:08
  and the body of a man.
• 1:48:11
  Now,
• 1:48:13
  that's Greek mythology people say.
• 1:48:16
  Well, I want to remind everybody listening that the word mythology is a Greek word and it doesn't mean
• 1:48:22
  something that's untrue, it never meant that and Paul the apostle uses the word
• 1:48:27
  pronounced that's
• 1:48:29
  the word myth in the New Testament.
• 1:48:31
  But the word mythos mythology
• 1:48:35
  and myth does
• 1:48:37
  not mean something that's untrue,
• 1:48:39
  a fairy tale we would say in Anglo Saxon.
• 1:48:43
  Now the word muthos means that which was hidden,
• 1:48:47
  but is now
• 1:48:48
  laid bare and open. Yeah. And you can see it.
• 1:48:51
  That's an important distinction in the bible because Paul uses that word a lot. He talks about the mystery, the muthos
• 1:48:58
  of the gospel. There were things we didn't know about it. We knew a lot from the old testament,
• 1:49:03
  but the revelation, the written revelation of God is progressive
• 1:49:06
  and now we know more than we've ever known and he calls it the mysteries. Mysteries are a thing, not things we don't know. Mysteries are things that we know.
• 1:49:16
  They're laid bare and open to the world. And so mythology and I remind people if you have that attitude, remember mythology has always been taught
• 1:49:26
  far as I know still is to Greek
• 1:49:28
  school children in those Grecian parts of the world is taught as the fact of history of their own history.
• 1:49:35
  Just like we'd teach American history about the fact that George Washington and James Madison,
• 1:49:40
  They teach mythology that way and of course, the Greek history is filled with these creatures that are half animal from the waist up or something and half
• 1:49:51
  man.
• 1:49:53
  That's what the leader of Crete
• 1:49:55
  was. He was a man of giant. When I say giant,
• 1:49:59
  that's
• 1:50:00
  not what the word giant means. It doesn't mean tall, but he was huge.
• 1:50:04
  The word giant doesn't mean that at all. I'll back up Lord willing, got enough time to cover that.
• 1:50:10
  But I noticed when I looked into it that the leader of Crete, this Taurus Minor or
• 1:50:16
  Minotaur, I forget which one it was.
• 1:50:19
  Half bull, half man, horns and all,
• 1:50:23
  lived
• 1:50:24
  about the time
• 1:50:26
  of Genesis six, the flood
• 1:50:29
  according to Greek mythology.
• 1:50:33
  Oh, I said, wow. I wonder if all these half
• 1:50:37
  man half animal critters running around in Greek mythology occurred at the time of the flood when the sons of God and the daughters of men came down the more I looked into it and I've been looking ever since and the tighter the connections become.
• 1:50:53
  And so
• 1:50:54
  I say that for this reason, now this fellow didn't mention this, I wanna mention it. It's called medic the medical community has a term for it called
• 1:51:07
  monster monster.
• 1:51:08
  The word monster
• 1:51:10
  is used and has been used for years in the medical community just to speak of creatures that women give birth to that have the the physical characteristics
• 1:51:19
  of
• 1:51:20
  animals.
• 1:51:22
  Now when I was
• 1:51:24
  while I was home and it's a coal mining country down there and
• 1:51:29
  and
• 1:51:30
  there are a lot of folk living back in the boonies and the swamps. There's both swamps and hills
• 1:51:37
  and
• 1:51:39
  girl younger my wife had she was a nurse back then, she was educated in California,
• 1:51:45
  but she went to work there at a hospital
• 1:51:48
  and girls would come in there, a girl came in there and the nurses over there told her they had other, every once in while they'd have come one come in and would give birth
• 1:51:57
  to a monster, that's a medical term.
• 1:51:59
  Give birth to a baby
• 1:52:01
  that had feathers,
• 1:52:03
  claws,
• 1:52:05
  like a
• 1:52:06
  a bear,
• 1:52:09
  feathers like a bird, beak like a bird,
• 1:52:14
  different combinations
• 1:52:15
  of these things.
• 1:52:17
  And of course, the evolutionists will say, that's because we evolved from these things and all fetuses when they first began, you can see that even a baby in a woman's womb always has a slit, a gill slit where the gill of a fish would be and the fetus of a baby looks very much like the fetus of a of a trout.
• 1:52:37
  Now that's what they say and I've seen under microscopes
• 1:52:40
  the fetuses of these
• 1:52:42
  and they do look alike.
• 1:52:45
  But that doesn't the conclusion's false to say that the one evolved from the other and there's
• 1:52:52
  in theory, like a theory of evolution,
• 1:52:55
  there are laws that they set forth to deny each other on that point. I'm not to get into all that but no.
• 1:53:03
  That's what they say.
• 1:53:06
  But
• 1:53:08
  my
• 1:53:09
  missus Brent gave me testimony
• 1:53:11
  back when we were young, before we started a family
• 1:53:14
  that these things are true, they really happen
• 1:53:17
  and they're not talked about and they're hidden and they're embarrassing to talk about so people don't talk about them.
• 1:53:23
  But then later on I was reading the history of the early
• 1:53:27
  settlements in Puritan, New England
• 1:53:30
  and
• 1:53:31
  shucks, I can't remember this fella's name. He was the most famous
• 1:53:35
  governor
• 1:53:36
  of the Puritan settlements.
• 1:53:38
  What was his name? But he
• 1:53:43
  now people say, Brent, you're getting old. You can remember a lot of stuff, but you can't remember the names.
• 1:53:49
  He there was a woman. It was during the Anne Hutchinson affair.
• 1:53:54
  Anne Hutchinson
• 1:53:55
  lived in the Puritan settlements of New England. She was a daughter of a prominent Puritan preacher.
• 1:54:01
  And you know this happens sometimes with older daughters. Teddy Roosevelt's daughter was this way.
• 1:54:07
  She was nothing short of a witch. Mean voodoo dolls and burying them out in the yard of the White House and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:54:14
  And she thought that she was smarter than her father. Her father, Teddy,
• 1:54:18
  finally told his age, you gotta get this girl out of my office.
• 1:54:23
  She's trying to run the country, trying to run the world, and if I don't do what she says when she was a teenager.
• 1:54:28
  Well, she was rebellious.
• 1:54:30
  You know, if a woman will rebel against her father, take a a position of superiority in her mind over her father,
• 1:54:37
  there's no limit to what she'll do. Correct. Importance of honoring fathers.
• 1:54:41
  I'm telling you ladies, teach your daughters not to do that.
• 1:54:45
  You will destroy they will destroy themselves and
• 1:54:47
  and this Teddy Roosevelt's daughter did. Well, Anne Hutchinson,
• 1:54:51
  you know, he got a a father that's prominent and he's he's intelligent, then the daughter the older daughter is the one who suffer with this seems like more than others.
• 1:55:01
  I'm just telling you my testimony reading history and then try to be smarter than their father and compete with him and overcome him.
• 1:55:08
  Well that's what Anne Hutchinson did. There have been a lot of women in Christianity that done that. The founders
• 1:55:14
  of of the in the Millerite movement in Upper State New York. And out of the Millerite movement arose the Mormons,
• 1:55:22
  the Mormon religion, the Jehovah Witnesses,
• 1:55:26
  and the Seventh Day Adventist.
• 1:55:28
  All three of them. Really? All three of them. Yeah. Of course, the Seventh Day are founded by a woman who thought she was more into and also
• 1:55:36
  Christian Science.
• 1:55:37
  That all came out of the Millerite movement. That was quite a catastrophic
• 1:55:41
  thing when these people know about these religions but they never go about where this all come from. It all comes from a common source
• 1:55:48
  and it can and wrapped up the sex perversion
• 1:55:52
  and women
• 1:55:53
  in that case of the Seventh day Adventist
• 1:55:56
  saying oh, I wrote the key to the scriptures and that's part of the bible and all the madness that goes with things like that. Perversion. By the way Seventh day Adventism,
• 1:56:06
  Mary Baker Eddie Patterson Glover and Fry, I think she was married that many times Eddie,
• 1:56:12
  a few times.
• 1:56:13
  She wrote and did what she did because she hated
• 1:56:16
  men and she
• 1:56:19
  was trying to figure out a way to stop
• 1:56:21
  the natural aggression of men, which of course goes to all their life and she couldn't stand it. They were aggressive, they talked loud,
• 1:56:29
  they were overbearing,
• 1:56:31
  and she hated sex
• 1:56:32
  and it just gets worse from there. And so she devised an eating plan that would she hope take away this aggression. Too much red meat,
• 1:56:41
  too many rich foods like dessert.
• 1:56:44
  Of course Seventh Day Adventist is our Seventh Day.
• 1:56:47
  Well, yeah, key to the scripture
• 1:56:50
  Seventh day Adventist, I'm getting them mixed up here, but Mary Baker Eddy
• 1:56:54
  was the leader
• 1:56:56
  of a leader in the Millerite movement, I'll say it that way. All those are together,
• 1:57:02
  But this way Anne Hutchison was in the Puritan settlements
• 1:57:06
  and she took an air of superiority and said, I can teach the bible too.
• 1:57:11
  I have the same authority as my father.
• 1:57:13
  And she started, of course, they wouldn't let her do it at church. She started having bible studies in her home.
• 1:57:19
  She was a
• 1:57:21
  Puritan kind of a
• 1:57:24
  trying to remember this.
• 1:57:27
  Again, I can't remember the names, but
• 1:57:30
  the Puritans, she would got to teach some weird things and they always do. We got to teach them stuff that we would call today new age stuff.
• 1:57:37
  The power of the spirit over the power of the written word of God. Other words, whatever the spirit tells you personally is the word of God too. That's the kind of thing she started teaching. Well, all those things are true of all false religion.
• 1:57:51
  You listen more to your heart, as they say, than your mind.
• 1:57:56
  Whatever God says to you is what he says to you. It's truth for you.
• 1:58:00
  No. The bible says clearly something different. Well, she's she wouldn't stop. Finally, said, look, if we don't stop, we're gonna ask you to leave.
• 1:58:09
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  and I'm sure the rest of the audience does too. So we just don't feel like you're not appreciated.
• 2:00:19
  Think what I'm saying you remind me it. Yeah. It is encouraging. You're right. And as my mother, I wanted to blurt this in a few minutes ago.
• 2:00:28
  My mother, now deceased, used to say, pretty is as pretty does.
• 2:00:34
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:00:36
  And that's what they said to Billy Budd, you know, Herman Bell Melville wrote that novelette called Billy Budd and it wasn't discovered until years after he passed away.
• 2:00:47
  And that's what the master at arms said to Billy Budds, handsome is as handsome does. I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Used it to have him hung too, by the way. What a story. It was, man. Herman Melville. Right? Herman Melville. Yeah. He's famous for Moby Dick. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
• 2:01:05
  I'm I'll tell you what I'm gonna do, Roger. I'm gonna do something a little different because it's
• 2:01:09
  you know, I'm just reading about Will Rogers.
• 2:01:12
  Again, he reminded me that he learned in show business early on when he was in the Wild West show. He got connected with the Wild West show down in South Africa.
• 2:01:22
  He had been on a border,
• 2:01:24
  a ship load of cattle coming from Argentina and they hired him on as a wrangler because they saw he could use a rope and they needed somebody.
• 2:01:32
  And
• 2:01:33
  he ended up going to South Africa. I've never heard this. It's fascinating.
• 2:01:38
  Unknown: Oklahoma.
• 2:01:39
  Oklahoma boy.
• 2:01:41
  Unknown: Yeah. But he was from an ultra wealthy family too. Oh, I did not know that. Oh, yeah. His father had Roger, get this. His father's ranch was 60,000
• 2:01:50
  acres. Doof.
• 2:01:52
  60,000
• 2:01:54
  acres and it's Too good. It was all free land because his father
• 2:01:57
  was less.
• 2:01:59
  Well, he was about an eighth Cherokee,
• 2:02:01
  but he he was a big shot and ran the tribes. Yes. Wait. Wait. Seven eights white. His mother was a quarter Cherokee.
• 2:02:09
  They were both from the Cherokee nation, but they were mostly white folk.
• 2:02:13
  Of course, that made Will, he was born. He had all the rights of a Cherokee, had all that free land, his father then got dabbling in banking, made more money banking easier than of course usury, make you a lot of money.
• 2:02:26
  He had all the privileges, he was sent away to a military academy in Neshoe, Missouri.
• 2:02:32
  And he he was just rebellious,
• 2:02:35
  nasty boy that got in trouble everywhere he went. And he got so bad, he got so bad by the time he got thrown out of that military school
• 2:02:44
  that he just ran away from home.
• 2:02:47
  Got on a horse and took off.
• 2:02:49
  Wound up in the Texas Panhandle,
• 2:02:52
  of course nobody lived there back then.
• 2:02:54
  They almost starved to death, almost. If he hadn't found some
• 2:02:59
  bacon
• 2:03:00
  some bacon in a shack
• 2:03:04
  during a thunderstorm.
• 2:03:05
  Well, he ended up he got another buddy working on a ranch. He said, let's go to Argentina. Maybe we can
• 2:03:11
  he had a lot of money in his pocket. Well, he got to Argentina and ran out of money.
• 2:03:16
  He's a rich boy's son. That's what he was. And he by the way, he he
• 2:03:20
  didn't get along with his father. He discouraged
• 2:03:23
  his father, ran away, and never made up with his father.
• 2:03:27
  So he
• 2:03:29
  got on this boat going to South Africa,
• 2:03:33
  and then he ran into Texas Jack. In Texas Jack, there were about half a dozen big Wild West shows in America
• 2:03:40
  besides Buffalo Bill who were traveling all over the world and making a lot of money.
• 2:03:44
  That was the beginning of the American Western, by the way.
• 2:03:48
  And he got with Texas Jack and he said, could do rope tricks and all of that kind of stuff, and I did a little bit of that. But Texas Jack, he said, he taught me how he taught me about show business.
• 2:04:01
  And what Texas Jack show Jack showed me, and I used it starting in Vaudeville and Zigville Follies and clearing through
• 2:04:10
  through the movies and he was the number one box office
• 2:04:14
  getter,
• 2:04:16
  ticket getter in the movies when
• 2:04:18
  he was in Hollywood in nineteen thirty four and five.
• 2:04:22
  But
• 2:04:23
  he
• 2:04:24
  he said Texas Jack taught me that
• 2:04:27
  in show business,
• 2:04:29
  if you don't get off the stage
• 2:04:32
  before they get tired of you, they'll not come back and watch you again. Always leave them clapping. Yeah. So it's
• 2:04:40
  easy to get tired of folk. I get tired of folk even if I like them. And I I hope people don't get tired of me, but that's that's inevitable,
• 2:04:46
  I think.
• 2:04:47
  And so I'll get off right now. My voice is tired. Let's quit. I'm gonna quit. And hey, when I come back next time, let's talk about Anne Hutchinson.
• 2:04:56
  And we're talking about monsters,
• 2:04:58
  and we're talking about accusations of her giving birth to him. And I wanna tell you that story and the evidence for
• 2:05:05
  the reality of it. Okay. And that governor's name that came to me was Winthrop. Winthrop. Yeah. Okay. Hey, Joe. John Winthrop.
• 2:05:16
  Unknown: Joe,
• 2:05:17
  Unknown: comment. Yes.
• 2:05:19
  I do.
• 2:05:21
  The place
• 2:05:23
  he landed in the Texas Panhandle was Higgins, Texas.
• 2:05:28
  And if you wanna see some
• 2:05:31
  incredible
• 2:05:32
  roping,
• 2:05:33
  try to go to YouTube and find roping fool.
• 2:05:39
  Unknown: Even roped some mouse. He Yeah. Roped some still. You roped some He roped some
• 2:05:47
  Unknown: mouse with a string.
• 2:05:49
  I'm serious. Oh. It's incredible. But
• 2:05:51
  Unknown: just because it's
• 2:05:53
  the mouse is I I get it. That's good. And I saw that.
• 2:05:57
  But
• 2:05:58
  he also
• 2:06:00
  remember
• 2:06:01
  the idea, it it was a silent movie
• 2:06:04
  and what he wanted to do is preserve his rope tricks. He was in his forties when he did it because he knew he was getting older.
• 2:06:10
  And he had a little Frenchman there
• 2:06:12
  who invented slow motion. He was the inventor of slow motion. He called him the little Frenchman.
• 2:06:18
  And so he got teamed up with him,
• 2:06:20
  and they did this movie called the rope and fool.
• 2:06:23
  And that Frenchman
• 2:06:25
  used slow motion to see how his rope tricks worked,
• 2:06:29
  and that's what makes it in my mind even more fascinating and then they took in the black and white film and they took white some kind of white ink or something and in every frame
• 2:06:41
  they
• 2:06:42
  drew the rope in so you could see it real good in white,
• 2:06:46
  but he could he could throw a loop
• 2:06:50
  in front of a man on a running horse and he does this in a movie.
• 2:06:54
  The horse runs through the loop
• 2:06:56
  and then Rogers gives it a certain flip with his wrist and the loop comes up over the horse from behind
• 2:07:04
  and ropes the horse
• 2:07:06
  and the rider,
• 2:07:08
  if I remember right, in a figure eight. You remember that, Joe?
• 2:07:13
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:07:14
  Incredible.
• 2:07:16
  Incredible. Absolutely incredible. Here's
• 2:07:19
  Unknown: the rest of the story too. His son said
• 2:07:22
  that he he was the one they're one of his boys that took after his dad, and he he learned how to rope pretty good. He said that particular take of that trick that nobody's ever done before among others,
• 2:07:33
  he he didn't get it right the first time, Joe. He had to try it several times. Sure. Yeah. So which is normal, but still it's impressive.
• 2:07:41
  Cool. Yeah. Okay. Brent, you gotta split? Yep.
• 2:07:44
  Unknown: Okay. Well, thank you, man, for everything, and, we appreciate the oratory and the history. And,
• 2:07:50
  wow,
• 2:07:51
  also, hopefully, you'll wanna touch on this, guy, Frank Wright, this this latest Tucker interview, the British guy. I think you're gonna really like that, Brent. He's quite intellectual. Oh, yeah. He ties everything up. He's got that English speech.
• 2:08:05
  I'm it's just wonderful. So I bet you'll enjoy it.
• 2:08:09
  Thank you. Look forward to it. Thank you, Roger, and thank you all. Appreciate y'all. Okay. Groovy. What a what a lucky bunch we are to be able to have access to that guy two hours a week.
• 2:08:21
  Anybody else got anything for me today?
• 2:08:26
  Didn't sound like it.
• 2:08:28
  No?
• 2:08:29
  Unknown: Hey, Roger. What did y'all
• 2:08:32
  Unknown: Well, there's Joan. She's got something. Hold on. I'll let you talk. What?
• 2:08:37
  Unknown: What did y'all talk about on Paul English yester yesterday?
• 2:08:42
  Unknown: How crackly my voice was.
• 2:08:45
  Unknown: How long were you on for?
• 2:08:48
  Well,
• 2:08:49
  Unknown: I was on and off for an hour, but I only did about fifteen decent minutes
• 2:08:54
  at the end when we finally found the key. So because of that, he's gonna rebook me in a couple of weeks.
• 2:09:01
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:09:02
  Unknown: Good. Yep. Thank you. Yeah. One of those things, live radio.
• 2:09:06
  Even even the maestro
• 2:09:08
  had a hard time figuring it out,
• 2:09:11
  but we did get it there towards the end.
• 2:09:14
  So anybody else got something for the Raj?
• 2:09:19
  Alright. Well, we'll be back tomorrow, see what kind of
• 2:09:23
  Roger. News items, whatever. Maybe have some new students. Hell, who knows?
• 2:09:27
  What someone had wanted to put something in there?
• 2:09:32
  Unknown: Yeah. Samuel.
• 2:09:34
  I wanna stick
• 2:09:35
  up for my reading of the nature of god in the good book.
• 2:09:40
  I don't think there's any reference to him creating men in order to destroy them and being the source of the evil.
• 2:09:52
  Okay. And I also don't
• 2:09:55
  and, you
• 2:09:56
  know,
• 2:09:58
  about the only bible translation that I know that still uses
• 2:10:03
  sons of god is the King James version.
• 2:10:07
  So all the new translations have turned it into children.
• 2:10:12
  Unknown: Children of God. Okay.
• 2:10:15
  Alright.
• 2:10:16
  Anything else?
• 2:10:19
  Unknown: That's it.
• 2:10:20
  Unknown: Okay. Thank you, Samuel.
• 2:10:22
  I'll see y'all tomorrow. See what happens between now and then. Ciao. Ciao.
• 2:10:56
  Unknown: So Samuel,
• 2:10:58
  what are you saying that means
• 2:11:01
  children of God?
• 2:11:06
  Unknown: Well, it's a change from sons of God. And sons of God
• 2:11:15
  in the Old Testament was always these spiritual creatures.
• 2:11:20
  And so in context
• 2:11:22
  when you're using it in the New Testament,
• 2:11:25
  you're talking about this
• 2:11:27
  change that came through Jesus Christ
• 2:11:30
  and now were these spiritual creatures
• 2:11:33
  where the new translations are calling them children like they're
• 2:11:38
  human.
• 2:11:39
  And I
• 2:11:41
  just,
• 2:11:42
  you know, it might might be a subtle difference but I I think the King James version
• 2:11:48
  leads people into different thought processes.
• 2:11:52
  And these subtle changes I think
• 2:11:55
  and they do a lot of this in
• 2:11:57
  the new versions. They
• 2:12:00
  take away the divinity of Christ.
• 2:12:04
  And
• 2:12:07
  all these things you start putting them together and you know
• 2:12:14
  I wish I could have gotten on and said something about to Brent about this. He realized that
• 2:12:20
  these new translations
• 2:12:23
  don't have sons of Ahab and he was making a big point of the importance of that.
• 2:12:30
  They've changed it to children.
• 2:12:32
  I think there's
• 2:12:35
  there's a spiritual difference there
• 2:12:37
  of of the meaning.
• 2:12:40
  Unknown: Good.
• 2:12:40
  Thank you.
• 2:12:53
  Unknown: And
• 2:12:54
  he also made the statement that God creates evil people just so he can destroy them to show his
• 2:13:00
  glory.
• 2:13:01
  I mean,
• 2:13:03
  I don't get that out of the Bible.
• 2:13:06
  That would go against God's nature to me.
• 2:13:09
  So
• 2:13:10
  I think those were important points.
• 2:13:13
  But Brent never stops talking so there's really
• 2:13:17
  or ask for interjection.
• 2:13:19
  So, yeah.
• 2:13:23
  Not
• 2:13:24
  much I can say about that.
• 2:13:28
  Unknown: Right.
• 2:13:37
  He would cut you off and disagree to disagree
• 2:13:40
  with you.
• 2:13:45
  Unknown: Breaking up there.
• 2:13:49
  Or it's my I don't have a very good signal either,
• 2:13:53
  so could well be me.
• 2:13:58
  Actually, I got to the point.
• 2:14:00
  Unknown: I
• 2:14:01
  was just being sarcastic.
• 2:14:03
  I said he would have disagreed with you and cut you
• 2:14:11
  Unknown: I mean, just think about it. God create somebody
• 2:14:15
  evil so that he can destroy you?
• 2:14:19
  Any
• 2:14:21
  for his glory?
• 2:14:22
  I mean
• 2:14:24
  That don't make sense. The God of the Bible, know.
• 2:14:29
  Unknown: Yeah. It's reducing
• 2:14:30
  God to human values,
• 2:14:32
  you know. Good
• 2:14:34
  Unknown: Lord.
• 2:14:36
  I don't know why he doesn't get objections from people.
• 2:14:47
  Unknown: Comment. We don't wanna interrupt.
• 2:14:54
  Unknown: Yeah. Go.
• 2:14:56
  Unknown: I think you guys should bring these questions up to him.
• 2:15:01
  Unknown: Yeah. To Brent. Try to do that. Good luck.
• 2:15:05
  Unknown: Well, give it a shot. I mean,
• 2:15:07
  Unknown: don't know if the whole watchman about hates. Does anybody have an opinion out there? How about that?
• 2:15:13
  Unknown: It's the watchman on the wall concept. You
• 2:15:16
  know that there's danger. You know that there's something false.
• 2:15:19
  If you don't speak up, then the blood's on your hands. So try to speak up. If he shuts you down, it'll come out and wash.
• 2:15:29
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I'm speaking now, Paul, because it's a lot easier.
• 2:15:33
  Unknown: Yeah. Behind his back. Not a not a No. We'll be doing it. We'll be doing it. Back,
• 2:15:39
  Unknown: beat sakes.
• 2:15:40
  Just last week. If he wants
• 2:15:43
  interjection,
• 2:15:44
  he should be asking for it as well because he knows he goes on forever,
• 2:15:50
  and he never answers a question when you do ask it. Woah. Woah. Woah.
• 2:15:56
  Unknown: Yeah. No. I
• 2:15:58
  Unknown: Friday Friday is his Brent's comment.
• 2:16:00
  Friday is his Brent's
• 2:16:02
  day.
• 2:16:05
  Yeah. Before I get cut off, knew what he was talking about.
• 2:16:09
  Unknown: If you don't wanna listen to him, don't tune in on Fridays
• 2:16:12
  because you know where he's gonna be. And if you know you're gonna have a problem with something he says, just don't show up. Don't call him out after the show, after he's gone,
• 2:16:22
  when we are still
• 2:16:24
  streaming
• 2:16:25
  for God's sake.
• 2:16:28
  Keep keep your opinions to yourself. If you don't like what he says, go away. Come back on Saturday.
• 2:16:36
  Unknown: Yeah. Right, Paul. Thank you very much. We can have a discussion here. Come on.
• 2:16:45
  Unknown: My opinion is that Paul. It's my opinion, and that's the way I read the bible.
• 2:16:51
  I don't see God setting guys up,
• 2:16:55
  making them evil in order to knock them down
• 2:16:58
  for his own glory.
• 2:17:01
  Now you work the scripture that says that,
• 2:17:04
  Unknown: and then we can have a discussion. He works through them. He works through everyone.
• 2:17:13
  Unknown: Well, if you're gonna have a problem with something Comment. Comment. Comment before I get muted.
• 2:17:17
  One second, Jerry. If you're gonna have a problem with something Brent says, you bring it up to Brent, not behind his back. Alright. I'll try again, Paul. We'll see where that goes next time. Please remember I did that last week when Larry brought up the true definition
• 2:17:34
  Unknown: of hate in the bible with those two verses.
• 2:17:38
  Clearly, it means less preferred.
• 2:17:42
  Mhmm. And it would be good for Roger to acknowledge that's doesn't do all this hate hate.
• 2:17:49
  Unknown: And, like, when you made your little comment, Paul,
• 2:17:53
  in the beginning.
• 2:17:58
  What comment? In the chat and and he busted you.
• 2:18:02
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Alright. Not a typical lawyer.
• 2:18:06
  When you were
• 2:18:08
  that's why we need another effing lawyer,
• 2:18:11
  and he was gonna take you to court,
• 2:18:16
  Unknown: Conway. He
• 2:18:17
  called me on it.
• 2:18:19
  Joe, hang on one second. Jerry Garcia has been trying to get in here.
• 2:18:23
  Jerry, come on in and then give it to Joe.
• 2:18:27
  Unknown: Mhmm. Oh, okay.
• 2:18:30
  So Brent made a comment about monsters
• 2:18:32
  being born, and I know Samuel,
• 2:18:35
  he disagrees with me on this, but that's okay.
• 2:18:37
  Like we say, we're just having a conversation. But as far as monsters being born,
• 2:18:43
  in in Genesis,
• 2:18:46
  it talks about a man named Zephel,
• 2:18:48
  who was the king of Chittim.
• 2:18:51
  But, also,
• 2:18:53
  Joshua and David referred to a book of Jasher.
• 2:18:58
  And in Jasher,
• 2:19:00
  Zephel killed an animal when he was the king of Chittim.
• 2:19:06
  He he went looking for a
• 2:19:08
  lost calf
• 2:19:10
  that was lost,
• 2:19:12
  and he came upon a mountain where he heard heard it lowing
• 2:19:16
  and
• 2:19:17
  something was happening to. So he went over there to investigate,
• 2:19:20
  and he came upon a cave cave,
• 2:19:23
  and it's in Jasher
• 2:19:25
  chapter 60
• 2:19:26
  or 61.
• 2:19:28
  And he when he entered the cave, he saw this thing
• 2:19:33
  that was eating the cow
• 2:19:35
  that was from the bottom
• 2:19:38
  half animal and from the top half man.
• 2:19:44
  So it's referring to this Zephel guy in Genesis,
• 2:19:48
  and then Joshua is referring to a book of Jasher, and David is also referring to a book of Jasher,
• 2:19:55
  two witnesses referring back to the beginning
• 2:19:59
  of a king
• 2:20:01
  that killed
• 2:20:02
  this monster.
• 2:20:05
  Anyway,
• 2:20:06
  that's that's all I had.
• 2:20:09
  Unknown: Yeah. Thank you, Jerry. Joe, go for it.
• 2:20:13
  Unknown: Yeah. I can't believe murder didn't light Roger's fire.
• 2:20:19
  Unknown: Wouldn't you? What what do you want me to say? Well,
• 2:20:23
  Unknown: it's what you did say.
• 2:20:27
  Unknown: Oh, what I did say that didn't light his fire? Well, he ignored it last week. No. No. No. When you when you when
• 2:20:35
  Unknown: you
• 2:20:36
  you brought up Michael Gatti's
• 2:20:38
  Unknown: theme song. Oh, oh, yeah. Sorry about that. Not I
• 2:20:43
  was thinking that surely I knew everybody else was. You hit it. If they listen to that show, I know they were all thinking about it too. So I'm like, okay. Let me give it voice.
• 2:20:54
  It just got a little quiet for a little bit. There's a number another example of things you can't talk about during the show where it causes trouble. So And Paul Paul has has it lying down. Why don't you play it, Paul? He was gonna play during the show, but there's just nonstop talking going on.
• 2:21:12
  Unknown: I can play it as soon as the stream goes down.
• 2:21:16
  Unknown: Oh, okay. I got you. Copyright or something. Copyrights and all that.
• 2:21:20
  Unknown: Yep.
• 2:21:23
  Which I really wish I now I wish I would have taken the stream down
• 2:21:27
  fifteen minutes ago.
• 2:21:34
  Unknown: So, Paul, I sort of feel like I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't. So
• 2:21:39
  Well, everybody's got a link to it in. After hours is more appropriate than causing
• 2:21:45
  a disruption. And plus, you just really don't get in, and you don't really get an answer.
• 2:21:57
  Unknown: Yeah. We saw last week how he went on and on about love. He hit it again today,
• 2:22:03
  he didn't answer the question.
• 2:22:08
  I'm saying this is important especially for Roger. And when I came on, when I finally got unmuted,
• 2:22:14
  I played both both of those clips on my show too about
• 2:22:17
  about what it means from Larry and, my trying to get back on and Roger says, oh, it's made somebody guilty. What is that your is that your aim to make somebody feel guilty?
• 2:22:29
  I don't feel guilty.
• 2:22:31
  Unknown: Yeah and normally Paul I I wait till Roger is gone too but I thought it was important for him to hear this today for me that I have a different opinion about what Brent said because I know Roger looks to Brent as being an authority on the Bible and you know I
• 2:22:48
  I just wanted to have have him to have my opinion on it that's all.
• 2:22:52
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 2:22:55
  Right.
• 2:23:03
  Unknown: Mean, Roger doesn't need
• 2:23:05
  bed anymore
• 2:23:07
  of this hate stuff. I mean, he he some
• 2:23:11
  I commented on the one day when he came in really upbeat and cheery because it was such a difference from his normal
• 2:23:20
  diatribe on hate.
• 2:23:23
  And
• 2:23:24
  that's just not good for him.
• 2:23:37
  Unknown: You see, these are the satanic doctrines as it turns out, believing all this hate about
• 2:23:42
  god and what he'll do and the fire that's gonna burn forever. And it's all no. No. It's opposite of the truth.
• 2:23:54
  Unknown: It's
• 2:23:55
  sort of like one
• 2:23:57
  comment I read on why the King James
• 2:24:01
  translators use the word hate
• 2:24:03
  was to show contrast,
• 2:24:06
  not necessarily that God hates,
• 2:24:09
  but
• 2:24:10
  that he had a a real difference between
• 2:24:14
  the two men.
• 2:24:15
  Unknown: That's exactly what it means, and they're twisting it nowadays. Okay? Make it something else. Get us all emotionally stirred up.
• 2:24:23
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:24:29
  Unknown: And, you know, Brent's a translator, and he knows these new
• 2:24:34
  critical texts
• 2:24:35
  well, yet he didn't point out, and I think I'm right, maybe I'm even wrong,
• 2:24:41
  that they don't mention it anymore as sons of God in the New Testament. They change it all to children of God.
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  And that would have been nice for him to get a comment on but
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  it is really hard to get in Paul.
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  Especially in a timely manner.
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  By the time you do get in, it's like history. You know?
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  And I I get accused of interrupting as it is enough,
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  but sometimes it just
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  seems the only way to get in. But,
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  anyway,
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  sorry.
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  I know that, you know, Roger latched on to that hate thing and he he asked Brent what the translation was and Brent affirmed it, you know, and probably rightfully so.
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  Unknown: But see last week, Roger, like I said, he's like, it made somebody guilty, but was he listening to me? Was he listening to Larry?
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  I put that out over RBN because this is important for people to know.
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  Unknown: Brett's very skilled
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  in rhetoric.
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  Unknown: He's another effing lawyer.
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  Unknown: And he knows how to demur.
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  Unknown: But you know what? With all this where he lumps all of these movements together and where they were and how they're they're not the same. They're different.
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  And Baker, she ended up being married.
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  One husband died
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  and another she was about to marry, they had a son, the first one, and it's just a mess, you know, just trying to live, write articles and all this stuff.
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  She got healing from
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  PPQ, Phineas Parker,
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  I'm forgetting this whole
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  name here, but PPQ anyway,
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  and he started out as a mesmerist following Mesmer.
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  But then he knew it was Jesus Christ doing the healing.
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  And she was saying how she only felt good around him. She was healed, but then when she was away from him, her problems came back.
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  This was Jesus working through him. This is the thing,
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  like
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  know,
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  Brent admits you
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  learn as you go along and you don't have the same opinions after a while. Right? Well, that's true for everyone.
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  We're all growing and learning, hopefully.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm not sure whether Brent still
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  what side of free
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  will and unconditional
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  election he comes down on and that'd be sort of nice to know. And
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  this is why you get these different groups of religious people is because they're both represented in the text.
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  But I think
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  as I grow more in the text
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  that it's wanting you to walk in between these two lines,
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  not be a complete
• 2:28:03
  lawman on it
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  and not be a complete spiritualist
• 2:28:08
  on it.
• 2:28:10
  We are both
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  flesh and spirit, and we have to, like, walk that line
• 2:28:15
  between these doctrines. And I for me, that's what works,
• 2:28:19
  And maybe that's where Brent's Brent's at. But for all the verbiage that he puts on it, I still don't know where he stands.
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  Unknown: We've got 77%
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  humidity over here today.
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  Unknown: I remember days in Wisconsin because we're close to Lake Michigan where it was a 100 degrees and a 100% humidity.
• 2:29:01
  Talk about miserable.
• 2:29:04
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  I like the four seasons and stuff. And when I first came out here and and the summer was getting, like, thick, and I was like, what? This is Wisconsin?
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  Unknown: Yeah. And you're close to the to the Mississippi. Right?
• 2:29:20
  Well, fifty fifty miles inland. Oh, you're still quite away. So that's good. I don't if you if you'd be closer to that, it'd probably even be worse.
• 2:29:28
  Unknown: Yeah. I know I did some camping over there on July
• 2:29:32
  around the July 4 weekend years ago before I found this place.
• 2:29:37
  The mosquitoes were unbelievable.
• 2:29:40
  There were some wild mint growing
• 2:29:43
  and so I made like a headband with a handkerchief
• 2:29:47
  and hung the
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  mint like next to my eyes so I could keep them open while I was walking.
• 2:29:56
  And then I made a slow smoky fire and practically sat in it.
• 2:30:01
  Wasn't a whole lot of fun.
• 2:30:03
  There were a lot of skaters.
• 2:30:09
  Unknown: This is Jerry, here's what I was talking about
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  Unknown: on
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  that jasher,
• 2:30:17
  chapter 61
• 2:30:19
  verse fourteen and fifteen.
• 2:30:22
  And it was one day that Zephel
• 2:30:25
  lost a young heifer,
• 2:30:27
  and he went to seek it. And he heard it loin round about the mountain.
• 2:30:32
  And Zephyr went and he saw and behold, there was a large cave
• 2:30:37
  at the bottom of the mountain,
• 2:30:39
  and there was a large
• 2:30:41
  rock in front of the entrance. So he broke it.
• 2:30:46
  He split the rock in two and went into the cave and looked and behold,
• 2:30:52
  a large animal was devouring the ox.
• 2:30:55
  From the middle upward,
• 2:30:57
  it resembled a man. And from the middle downward, it resembled an animal.
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  And Zeppel rose up against the animal and slew it
• 2:31:08
  with his sword.
• 2:31:11
  That's what I was talking about. An animal and mythology.
• 2:31:14
  People say, oh, that's mythology. Yeah. But it's referring
• 2:31:18
  it's reference to the Szeppo guy who was and later after that, he became they made him a king of
• 2:31:25
  of Chittim
• 2:31:26
  in Genesis.
• 2:31:29
  I think it's chapter seven where listing all the descendants of
• 2:31:35
  this guy and that guy.
• 2:31:38
  Anyway, I'm just making a comment.
• 2:31:42
  Unknown: Yeah, Jerry. I I believe that there was a book of Joshua,
• 2:31:46
  but the one we have is
• 2:31:48
  probably been forged by the Pharisees
• 2:31:52
  because it ends up
• 2:31:54
  being
• 2:31:55
  produced in, like, I think, 1600.
• 2:32:00
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• 2:32:43
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.