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Hour 1 - Americans Have Middle East Fatigue · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is not very far now as we
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  Speaker 1: roll into the Thursday edition of the program until the
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  Speaker 1: midterms will officially be here. I am one of roughly,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's 18 million people now who have already voted. Buck,
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  Speaker 1: have you voted?
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  Speaker 2: Are you really going to ask me these every day?
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  Speaker 1: Every day? I'm going to vote week one.
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  Speaker 2: I committed to week one. You get off my lawn, Travis.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to point out for the record that
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  Speaker 1: I love America more than Buck because I have already
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  Speaker 1: voted and my ballot has been cast. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that many of you out there are continuing to cast
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  Speaker 1: your ballots as well because we have one of the
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  Speaker 1: largest early vote turnouts that we have seen. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think at this point, We should be paying a
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  Speaker 1: lot of attention to what the early votes look like,
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  Speaker 1: more so than what the polls are telling us might occur,
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  Speaker 1: because we have actual data that is significant. There are
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  Speaker 1: 18 million people who have early voted now all over
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  Speaker 1: the country. And what I would say, and this is
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  Speaker 1: very significant, there is virtually no difference in the percentages
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  Speaker 1: that have voted so far and what happened in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. In other words, the Democrat percent and the
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  Speaker 1: Republican percentage, even though way more people have voted in
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  Speaker 1: 26 than 22, meaning early voting is getting more popular.
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  Speaker 1: We are sitting in a situation where in 2022, the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat early vote favored them by 18 points. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat early vote favors them by 19 points. The
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  Speaker 1: overall vote in 2022 was in favor of Republicans. Now, again,
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  Speaker 1: this is with 18 million votes in. Independents are not
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  Speaker 1: being counted here. So if you think that independents are
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  Speaker 1: going to overwhelmingly break one way or the other, that
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  Speaker 1: could certainly end up being the big storyline. But for
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  Speaker 1: people out there that are being told, oh, Democrats are
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  Speaker 1: so much more energized, Republicans have no hope, which is
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  Speaker 1: what they are trying to send the message of through
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  Speaker 1: the polls that they continue to cite. 18 million people
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  Speaker 1: have voted, and it is nearly buck identical to what
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  Speaker 1: we saw in 2022 in terms of the percentages. I
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  Speaker 1: like actual data as opposed to the polls. That is
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  Speaker 1: the current real-time actual data for all of you.
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  Speaker 2: Things are, and we're not just saying it, looking good
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  Speaker 2: relative to where they were a month ago for Republicans,
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  Speaker 2: meaning that if you think of this as a horse race—
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  Speaker 2: And remember, Clay, we were at Kentucky Derby with our boss.
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  Speaker 2: That was so fun. If you think of this relative
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  Speaker 2: to a horse race, even if the Democrats going into
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  Speaker 2: the final stretch were ahead by a length or two,
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  Speaker 2: you can see the Republican horse surging here at a
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  Speaker 2: key time and might just be able to get ahead
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  Speaker 2: of them by a nose. I believe that's the terminology
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  Speaker 2: at the finish line in some of these key races.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to be a red wave. We're not overpromising.
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  Speaker 2: It's just close enough that you could have some. For example,
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  Speaker 2: if we win Michigan, Clay, I think everybody would have
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  Speaker 2: to say, great win by Mike Rogers and breathing a
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  Speaker 2: bit of relaxation, a breath of relief coming out of
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  Speaker 2: all of us if that were to occur. Maybe it does,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't. NBC's Steve Kornacki, he's one of their
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  Speaker 2: analyst guys. He's a poor man's Ryan Gerduski, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: This is what he said, cut one, about how, well,
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  Speaker 2: you'll hear it yourself. Play it.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other one.
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  Speaker 3: On the other side, Republicans think they can flip a
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  Speaker 3: Democratic state here. Again, in 2024, Trump carried the state,
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  Speaker 3: show you what it looked like. Relatively closer for Republicans,
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  Speaker 3: they've been trying for decades.
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  Speaker 1: To flip Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: What they think is working in their favor here is
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  Speaker 3: there's a state scandal there about Medicaid fraud. The governor,
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  Speaker 3: Tim Walz, didn't run for reelection, I think, because of it.
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  Speaker 3: This is his lieutenant governor. And to FOIA, the Republican
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  Speaker 3: has been saying, look, if you're upset about that scandal,
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  Speaker 3: don't vote for the lieutenant governor. There does seem to
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  Speaker 3: be a tide within the state that might be working
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  Speaker 3: against Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: Clay, I think if there's going to be one place
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  Speaker 2: where we see a, oh, wow, win for Republicans. Texas
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  Speaker 2: is home turf. We've got to defend Texas. If Michelle
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  Speaker 2: Tafoya wins that Senate seat in Minnesota, that would be
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  Speaker 2: a huge underdog story. And she can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would 100% be a monster underdog story. And
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  Speaker 1: so this is also part of the storyline that I
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  Speaker 1: think is starting to play out here, which is... Minnesota's
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  Speaker 1: been a deep blue state for a long time. If
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  Speaker 1: you're upset and you're listening to us in Minnesota right
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  Speaker 1: now with where the country is, President Trump being president
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  Speaker 1: for a year and a half isn't the reason why
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  Speaker 1: $ 9 billion in fraud exists. happened in Minnesota associated with
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  Speaker 1: the Somali population. In fact, the only reason you know
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  Speaker 1: about it, I would argue, is because President Trump is
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  Speaker 1: in office. Peggy Flanagan has been the lieutenant governor of
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  Speaker 1: Mike Walls for eight years. And for eight years, I
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  Speaker 1: think Minnesota has gotten progressively worse. If you're upset about
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  Speaker 1: the direction of Minnesota, you're upset with the Democrat Party,
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  Speaker 1: with Peggy Flanagan. And the question that Michelle Tafoya is asking,
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  Speaker 1: which is a really good one, is what has Peggy
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  Speaker 1: Flanagan done to suggest that she deserves a job promotion?
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  Speaker 1: Most people who have as poor of a record as
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  Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan would get fired. They wouldn't get a better job.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Minnesota... Michigan, New Hampshire, those are
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  Speaker 1: all locations with current Democrat senators where Republicans are making
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  Speaker 1: a real run with very strong candidates. And any one
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  Speaker 1: of those three, Buck, if... Republicans win. And I would
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  Speaker 1: add in Maine, if Susan Collins wins in Maine, any
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  Speaker 1: one of those four, I think the math becomes virtually
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  Speaker 1: impossible for Democrats to have any chance of taking back
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  Speaker 1: the Senate. So I feel that is that is a
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  Speaker 1: win on blue state turf. Any one of those four,
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  Speaker 1: if any of those happen, Republicans are retaining control of
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  Speaker 1: the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: I feel more confident about it for the toss ups.
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  Speaker 2: I feel good about Texas. I refuse to believe that
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  Speaker 2: Texas is not going to elect Ken Paxton. Like I
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  Speaker 2: just I will come in here and I don't really
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  Speaker 2: wear a hat. So I'm not going to eat my
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  Speaker 2: hat because I don't wear a hat. I will come
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  Speaker 2: in here and do a big mea culpa if Texas
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  Speaker 2: somehow lets us down. I think Texas is going to
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  Speaker 2: be fine. I also think Susan Collins is going to
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  Speaker 2: win in Maine, which is a really nice pickup. And
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  Speaker 2: it's a reminder that, you know. You take the best
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  Speaker 2: you can get where you can get it, and she's
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  Speaker 2: about as good as you're going to get for a
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  Speaker 2: Republican in Maine. She's not a Republican. She's the only one.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy. She's the only Republican in all of
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  Speaker 1: New England.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In Congress.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a crazy stat to think about.
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  Speaker 1: I love New England.
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  Speaker 2: I think New England, you and I disagree on this
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  Speaker 2: because you just say it's because the Pilgrims landed here
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  Speaker 2: first or whatever. I think New England is one of
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  Speaker 2: the most beautiful parts of the entire country. And it
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  Speaker 2: hurts my heart that it has been politically conceded to
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  Speaker 2: the communists. I just don't know why we can't. New Hampshire, okay.
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire still is a little sane. But it's closer
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  Speaker 2: than it should be in New Hampshire.
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  Speaker 1: But Vermont?
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  Speaker 2: Vermont is like a commune with nice maple syrup. Vermont
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  Speaker 2: completely lost its mind. Connecticut, you know I love Connecticut
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  Speaker 2: as a state. And they've got lunatics running the show
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  Speaker 2: out of Hartford. And then obviously Massachusetts is... I think
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  Speaker 2: the second bluest state in the country or maybe the
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  Speaker 2: blue it's, it's right up there. It's one of the
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  Speaker 2: most Democrat states in the country. It's certainly top three,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, Clay, I'm with you on, on the way
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  Speaker 2: these races are looking right now, president Trump, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: out on the campaign trail. I do think people might say, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not, yeah, he's not there to win over
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  Speaker 2: the kind of casual, maybe he's going to show up
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  Speaker 2: independent voter, you know, the, the, I'm not that into politics,
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  Speaker 2: whatever he is there, uh, For base turnout. And he
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  Speaker 2: is there to remind people that the Democrats or the Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: as he calls them. Yeah, they can tell you that
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  Speaker 2: things aren't perfect. They also will make everything worse.
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  Speaker 1: They have they are the cause of why people are
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  Speaker 1: upset about affordability in general. And I do think I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, guys. I think this is live.
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  Speaker 4: J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance is right now in Nebraska. He's also on the
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  Speaker 1: campaign trail trying to rally the troops. Increasingly, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like these fever dreams of Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa even are fading,
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  Speaker 1: as we told you they likely would. Ohio is a mess.
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  Speaker 1: I think if we want to point to a red
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  Speaker 1: state that is won by double digits, Greg Abbott is
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  Speaker 1: going to win in Texas. I think Ken Paxton is
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  Speaker 1: going to win, too. I'll be stunned beyond belief if
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  Speaker 1: Greg Abbott doesn't win. You guys in Texas, get out
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  Speaker 1: and vote. Ohio's a mess, Buck. Ohio is a mess.
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  Speaker 1: It is far more competitive than it should be. Open
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  Speaker 1: governor's race, Senate seat that is already held by Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: John Husted needs to win that race. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people out there right now that are, I think,
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  Speaker 1: nervous about what's going on in Ohio. And as a
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  Speaker 1: show that has been number one in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati, Ohioans.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're starting quarterback Julian saying is out at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. And so you're a little bit depressed over that.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be really depressed if you have a
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  Speaker 1: crazy Democrat governor and you reelect a guy who you
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  Speaker 1: fired two years ago to come back into the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to vote Husted. You've got to vote for
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. There's a lot of apprehension, I think, setting
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  Speaker 1: in in Ohio. Not to be the Debbie Downer buck,
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  Speaker 1: because usually that's your role, but if you wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to point to a red state where I am nervous
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  Speaker 1: about what the trend lines look like, it would be Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're cooked in Ohio, and I hope Ohioans
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  Speaker 2: prove me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: You're even more negative than me. Oh, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Vivek is pulling down the whole ticket, unfortunately. And
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  Speaker 2: this is a there's a few reasons why. But the
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  Speaker 2: most recent thing is he ran this ad. And I
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  Speaker 2: know J.D. is out there saying, oh, stop being like
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  Speaker 2: a wimp. Or he's saying, you know, this is politics.
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  Speaker 2: You know, put on your brass knuckles. Yeah, I'm OK
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  Speaker 2: with that attitude. If the ad is working. The problem
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  Speaker 2: with the ad is it's blown up in his face.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not about being tough. It's about being smart.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the ad is not a good. What happened is
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  Speaker 2: they've got Acton's mom. I've looked into this. They've got
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  Speaker 2: Acton's mom basically saying that she's lying about her childhood.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a court record. She was sexually abused
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  Speaker 2: as a child. And now Vivek has weighed into this
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  Speaker 2: sort of, and it's not good. It's and it looks
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  Speaker 2: a little bit like a lie. So anyway, look, they
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  Speaker 2: could be better for Ohio than the other than Amy Acton.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about that. He's much smarter. He's much
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  Speaker 2: more capable. He's my you know, all this stuff is true.
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  Speaker 2: It's just there's only so much, guys, only so much
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  Speaker 2: we could do here to kind of put a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: nice candy coating topping on some of the decisions that
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  Speaker 2: are being made by some of these Republicans. So I
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  Speaker 2: hope that the blowback on that ad is not as
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  Speaker 2: big as it seems, but it looks bad right now.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit, Buck, of the garbage
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  Speaker 1: talk when everybody got fired up about the Madison Square
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  Speaker 1: Garden rally. What I said last night, I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to my wife about it because she asked me about it,
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  Speaker 1: is it feels like the kind of ad you run
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  Speaker 1: if you are behind. I think that's fair to say
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  Speaker 1: because it's a risk. If you are up big, as
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  Speaker 1: should be the case in Ohio in a governor's race,
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  Speaker 1: then I don't think you take the risk of running
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  Speaker 1: an ad like that. Um, and if you're down and
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to scramble and shake up the board and, and,
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  Speaker 1: and make a comeback, I think you take bigger risks
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  Speaker 1: in your campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Also, I think you're right. Here's the problem. Also. Um,
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  Speaker 2: if you tell me that Watley, by the way, pulls
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  Speaker 2: off what feels like a miracle now, and maybe he
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  Speaker 2: will North Carolina, get out there and vote. We have
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  Speaker 2: a huge audience in Raleigh. A lot of you listening
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  Speaker 2: all across the state. Um, Cooper's a tough candidate, and
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  Speaker 2: that's a tough state. Let's just be honest about this. Clay,
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  Speaker 2: you've coached athletics. I actually coach a lot of athletics.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just lose to a better team, or you
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  Speaker 2: lose to a team that's having their day, and that's that.
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  Speaker 2: In Ohio, Trump handed those candidates what should be effectively
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  Speaker 2: a double-digit lead. If they lose, it's because they have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely screwed up. And that's just, this is the coach
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the team. That is the truth in Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: If Vivek loses, it's all on Vivek because Trump handed that,
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  Speaker 2: hands him a 10 point, 11 point lead right off
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  Speaker 2: the bat. So I think it's a little more tough
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  Speaker 2: to take that one. Whereas, you know, you look at
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  Speaker 2: some of these other races and other places, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Sununu's got a huge uphill battle. You know, it's Michigan
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  Speaker 2: is a dog fight and we get it right. There's
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  Speaker 2: what's fair and what's, what's true. So hopefully Ohio, I'm
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  Speaker 2: totally wrong about my, My frustration, because I feel frustrated.
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  Speaker 2: We should have Ohio in the red, good to go,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, that's why I think we have to
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  Speaker 1: point sometimes. If you said, okay, Clay, you're optimistic about
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  Speaker 1: the race that Michelle's running. I'm optimistic about what Mike
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  Speaker 1: Rogers is doing in Michigan. Optimistic New Hampshire is going
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  Speaker 1: to be close. Those are all blue states. What red
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  Speaker 1: state are you most nervous about in the entire country?
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  Speaker 1: Right now, for me, it's Ohio. Because you got the
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  Speaker 1: governor's race and you got the Senate race. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable about either right now.
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  Speaker 2: And just a little quick happy talk. Iowa, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be fine. Iowa, we're going to be fine. Iowa
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are going to win. Don't worry about that one.
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  Speaker 2: Senate seat, for sure. Governor's race, a bit more of
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  Speaker 2: a toss-up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not as confident.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm at the Senate seat, to be fair.
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  Speaker 2: will troll me on air a bit more about not
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: having cast my vote yet for byron but Byron.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Can count on it. Just a better American here.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: That's the reality. Byron knows. The governor knows. I've got
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: his back, and he will be getting my vote shortly.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And it will be an early vote. So there we go.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: But we'll talk to him in a little bit. And also, Clay,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: things getting a little spicy. Michigan debate. A little bit
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: of heat. We'll talk about the key moments of that one.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Because that is the... I will tell you this. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: think that will be the Senate race decided by... the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: smallest margin. I think Michigan will be the smallest margin
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Senate race.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I disagree with that.
• 17:57
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• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in, Clay and Buck. We have been talking about,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, Buck, I bet you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: would co-sign on this with me, that there are real,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and I even saw CBS News reporting this, as one
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: acknowledges that you have to take it with a grain
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of salt, that basically there are now five Senate seats
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that both parties would say are real toss-ups. Maine, Michigan, Texas, Alaska,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and Ohio. And that the control of the Senate is
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: going to come down to those five. Now, again, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: hope Michael Watley is going to make a real run
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. And we want all the North Carolinians
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: out there voting. But he is an underdog at this
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: point in time. And that would be one lost seat,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: which would mean there cannot be. and we're fortunate to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: have the tie break basically you you can lose three
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you can't lose four 50 50 would still be jd
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: vance breaking the tie And so Texas has emerged in
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a significant way, money being spent like crazy. Yesterday, Fox
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: News came out and said their latest poll has this
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: race as a dead even tie. Now, you and I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: believe Ken Paxton is going to win. Good Texans out
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: there listening to us right now are going to get
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: out and vote in big numbers. But let's listen to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that report from Bill Hemmer on Fox News saying, hey,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: this is our latest poll and Paxton has surged and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: now is in a dead heat, as we told you
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was likely going to be happening.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Our Fox News polling about a month ago, we had
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Tallarico at that time up two points. Today, we've got
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: this race dead even. Now, I'll point out that the
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: margin error is 2.5 percentage points, so you can move
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: the line either way.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Really, I mean, it's a static race. It's a coin toss.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: It really depends on who motivates the voters to get
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: out the vote.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: OK, so that is the numbers directly from Fox News.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: We know that money is pouring in in a significant
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: way across everywhere. But those are the five states. Michigan is.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And look, I hope Minnesota is going to be rational.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I hope New Hampshire is going to be rational. Those
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: are stretch states. for the Republicans. Michigan is a coin flip,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: as we have been talking about for some time. If
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you win in Michigan, there is no math, basically, that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: would allow Democrats to take back control of the Senate. Frankly,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think if Maine is a hold, if Susan Collins wins,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the math becomes almost impossible as well. But that is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: where we are right now. If you take Texas off
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the board, And if you take Ohio off the board,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the math doesn't work.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So, again, get out and vote, everybody. This is the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: absolute latest. We also have been telling you that the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the big battle in Michigan is And this is from
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: last night's debate that was ongoing. And I want to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: play a couple of cuts for you. Here is Mike
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Rogers coming after Abdul El-Sayed after Abdul El-Sayed tries to say,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this is racism. This is me being a victim. Cut seven.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: To bring in a question, my commitment to the Constitution
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: is really beneath you.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I am proud of America.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I'm proud to be an American.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I'm proud of our Constitution that guarantees all of us
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the right to pray as we choose to pray.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And the question that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: You would ask that I think is actually really quite
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: shameful as somebody who's actually served under that Constitution.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It is shameful. Congressman Rogers, you now have 30 seconds
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: for a rebuttal.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: You know, we're the uniform of the United States, proudly,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: as my son did. My wife served. My brother served.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: My father served. So you could pray any way you want.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: And I know you want to make this about you
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: being a victim. This is about an ideology. An ideology
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: that's banned in five Muslim countries. An ideology that's banned
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: in another six different countries. An ideology that is very
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: concerning to law enforcement in the United States because they
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: use it for funding overseas operations.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: That's the difference. Okay, Buck.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Here is what I would actually like to see Mike Rogers.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I wish I had thought to text him to do
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: this in the debate. Why doesn't Abdul El-Sayed, given all
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of his deep ties to Egypt, demand that Egypt open
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the border up with Gaza if he cares about Gaza
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: so much and take all of the Palestinian refugees who
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: want to relocate to Egypt? Inside of Egypt, because if
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you look at that wall that Egypt has built on Gaza,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to focus on, oh, what's Israel
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: doing to all the Palestinians in Gaza? Egypt has built
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a wall that is that makes the wall that we
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: any of the walls that we have on the southern
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: border look like a Lego wall to make sure that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: none of those Gazans, none of those Palestinians are ever
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: able to get into Egypt. Why shouldn't he demand that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Egypt take in all of these suffering, dealing with a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: genocide refugees? I think it would have been an interesting point.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Abdul El-Sayed would have said, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I think he would checkmate him a little bit there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I come at this with a little bit of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a sensitivity about the people that we hear from, Clay.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And I mean, we hear from every day. who are
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: really tired of hearing about the middle East and really
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: want to hear more about America. So that's my only
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: concern about not just, I mean, what you raise is interesting,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: by the way, what you raise is true as in
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the Arab world could absorb all the refugees and all the,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: they could absorb all the Palestinians easily. And, and in,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you know, the point is they, they don't want to, right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: That's the, I've been, and for anyone's wondering, I've been
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to refugee camps in, Jordan, the biggest refugee camp, I think,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: at one point in the world, in Zaatari, and right
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: along the Syrian border. And guess what? They want to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: go to Sweden. They don't want to go back to Syria.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: The Palestinians don't want to go to Egypt. They want
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to stay where they are or go somewhere nicer. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: there's a whole bunch of reasons for why that is.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But I would just say the Muslim Brotherhood stuff... I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: hear here's what I will say about this, Clay. You
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: may be correct, although I think probably not. But you
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: may end up being right that there's some movement in
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the Jewish vote that matters in Michigan, in Michigan against Al-Sayed.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I also think. that every time he hammers this. Now,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you might also be right that 99% of the Muslim
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: vote is going to go, and I don't know if
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's 99%, but an overwhelming majority of the Muslim vote
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: in Michigan is going to go for Abdul El-Sayed. But
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you're also running up those numbers with the Muslim Brotherhood
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: talk all the time. I may be missing something, but
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that There must be some internal
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: polling or something they see that talking about the Muslim
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Brotherhood like it'll get views on Fox News. I don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: think it's winning over persuadable voters.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I think it does, because I think it other rises
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: for all these guys in the and gals in the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: northern peninsula of Michigan who are big time Trump supporters.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I think it. creates a strong disconnect between the average
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Michigander and Abdul El-Sayed. Now, to your point, Buck, this
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Mike Rogers answer I thought was really good, that Abdul
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: El-Sayed actually has no answers. Michigan has been in Democrat
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: control for over eight years now. They haven't had any
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Republican statewide elected officials to a substantial degree, both senators,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the governor. But here he is saying, cut nine, he
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any economic solution. And I think this is important. Again,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: cut nine.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Think of all of the three things he just talked about.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Putting money in your pockets. It's a great slogan. There's
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: nothing behind it. Matter of fact, when his new Democrat
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Socialist Align policies are engaged, money in your pocket, you'll
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: be lucky to have.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: A damn pair of pants when you're done. Medicare for all.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: He doesn't tell you how much taxes you have to
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: get charged and you lose your private health insurance.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: These aren't real solutions.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: These are solutions that are going to make your life
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: more miserable and it's going to take away your choices
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: in health care.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Again, I think this is a key point.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that, I mean, look, he's hitting the right things too.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if, you know, the moment that you
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: start talking about Here's really what it is, Clay. For me,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: it's when he starts discussing Muslim Brotherhood, Abdul Alsaid, all
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: this stuff. For some people, it starts to trigger Iran war,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: gas price. I just think there's such fatigue among a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: lot of Americans in places like Michigan who maybe are
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: open to voting or not voting this time around. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: think there's just so much Middle East fatigue already with
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the Iran stuff. So I don't. You'll notice I have
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: heard a lot less of the, oh, it was worth
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: it even if gas prices are high talk.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Which is good.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Because that's not helpful. Even if you believe that's true,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: it's not helpful right now to say, yeah, our Iran
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: conflict stuff, we had to stop them from getting a nuke.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So the price of gas was a price we had
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to be willing to pay. Talk about that after the midterms.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's not good right now.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I do think the Iran war has taken a substantial
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: backseat in conversation because things are calm enough now there.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal this morning front page article is
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that more oil and gas is coming out of the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Middle East now than before the war started. And I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: do think that the fact that prices have largely stabilized. Now,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: what is Trump going to do after the midterm? I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: think that is a large decision. Heck, what are Jewish
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: voters going to do in Israel with their presidential election
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: coming up on October 27th, even before ours? A lot
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to be determined still in. the Middle East. But that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: battle in Michigan, one of the four or five that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: will decide Senate control and Senate control is going to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: matter a great deal. And I would just point out
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: whoever gets elected this year is in office until the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: January of $ 33? I mean, that's a long time. We're
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: going to be talking about $ 28 for a while, but
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: these six-year Senate terms, whatever frustration you have right now,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: does Michigan really think that Abdul El-Sayed is going to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: be the best representative for their state over the next
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: six years? That's a tremendous amount of time. That's two
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: different presidential election cycles that he's going to be in office,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: regardless of what you think. Do you want him there
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: for six years? A big decision.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It is indeed. So continue to look at this. Also,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: if you're a Michigander, call us. Let's talk Michigan. Let's
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: talk Michigan. I know we got all 50 states listening,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: but we want to dial into that one for a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: second here. So we'll put you at the front of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the line. Others, we'll get to your calls, too. So
• 30:50
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• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Mike in Texas. This is Talkback A. Hit it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, Clint.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I spent a couple of days in Nashville over the
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: weekend last week.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: And.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: What a great town you have. Did all the touristy
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: things and the Opry. It was awesome. So just wanted
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to tell you, had a great time.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It's a great city.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It's true. It's a fantastic city. Good one to come visit. Safe.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I did last night, Buck? I'm going
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to out myself. I went to go watch Journey, which
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: is they're on their final tour. Laura was there. Thank
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you to Shannon Bream and her husband, Sheldon. They live
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a decent amount of the year now in the Nashville area.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Sage Steele and her husband, Dave, there were a lot
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: of people there, all went to watch the concert. Buck,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I missed Don't Stop Believing, the most famous song of Journey.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: How did you miss that?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I went to go get pizza and a beer back
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in the concourse because I thought there's no way they
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: will play it. It will definitely be the final song
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: that they play. And I came back out And I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: had missed Don't Stop. I thought I was being pranked.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I thought they were mocking me. And instead, I had
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: actually missed the Don't Stop Believing.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: That's a rookie mistake, buddy. That's a rookie mistake right there.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: You got to know when Don't Stop Believing is. Apparently,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you kind of did Stop Believing for a minute. No,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Ali's asking a good question. No, in that area where
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I was, they actually played different music. So I didn't
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: even know. I came back out, and I thought I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: was being pranked when they said, man, you just missed
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Don't Stop Believing. All right, I called for Michigan callers.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: You guys all lit us up for Michigan. Let's start
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: with Anthony, Michigan election. What are you seeing, buddy?
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, actually, I stay in Dearborn. I'm fairly involved with
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: the political space there. And I would actually say that
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: focusing on Abdullah Saeed's ties to places like the Muslim
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: Brotherhood is actually really important because it can determine the
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: type of candidate that goes forward from the Muslim community.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I mean, look, Buck, your argument,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and this is where we come down on different sides here,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: your argument is that attacking him for muslim brotherhood connections
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: actually benefits him because it reinforces for the arab community
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: that he's one of them and that they will show
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: up in bigger numbers for him than people out there
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: who are upset by it will show up to vote
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: against him that's your.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Thesis he's not a member of the muslim brother so
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like you know we're talking oh his family or something
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of that going on
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: uh donald in michigan what's going on donald.
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I just wanted to let you know that
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: I am married to a young lady from the Philippines.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: And in the Philippines, National Election Day is a national holiday.
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: Everybody is off. Your job that day is to stand
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: in line. And also, the Philippines has... voter ID. I've
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: seen my wife's little ID card and it looks like
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: a driver's license. It's got her picture or address or signature.
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: And on the back, the lower corners have her thumb prints.
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: And if you don't have voter ID, you don't vote.
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: And I'm kind of embarrassed that a third world country
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: actually does a better job of voting than the good
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: old United States.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Democrats don't want secure elections. Unfortunately,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that is the problem. Come up with more here in
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a second. Stick around, everybody. Hour two.