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The Kenny Report | 4 December · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Australia caves into terrorism at the United Nations, abandoning Israel,
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Speaker 3: abandoning our values and Jewish Australians also COVID vaccine mandates.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe they still exist? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: The Australian Federal Police has a no jab, no job policy.
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Speaker 3: The per capita recession continues as wild government spending holds
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Speaker 3: up a flat economy and holds up our high interest rates. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: the nation's biggest bank backflips on those plans to charge
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Speaker 3: customers to get at their own cash. Also the Wednesday
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Speaker 3: wrangle with Liz and Justin on some pubs fighting back
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Speaker 3: in support of Australia Day let's get cracking. Well, you're
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Speaker 3: seeing it and you're feeling it, and the latest statistics
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Speaker 3: bear it out. Our economy is going no whe where.
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Speaker 3: It's on life support. We're deep in a per capita
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Speaker 3: recession and labor governments, state and federal are largely to blame.
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Speaker 3: The National accounts figures came out today and show that
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Speaker 3: annualized economic growth is now less than one percent, zero
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Speaker 3: point eight percent in fact, and that means GDP per
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Speaker 3: capita went backwards again.
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Speaker 2: Yet per person per household.
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Speaker 3: We are getting poorer, as we have been for most
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Speaker 3: of the alb and easy Labor government's term. But the
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Speaker 3: Treasurer seems to think he's doing a good job and
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Speaker 3: that we all ought to be grateful.
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Speaker 4: Australians would be much worse off and growth in our
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Speaker 4: economy would be even weaker without our responsible and balanced
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Speaker 4: approach to the budget and without our cost of living support.
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Speaker 2: Well, self praise is no praise at all.
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Speaker 3: Look, I've spoken the last couple of nights about the
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Speaker 3: growth of big government, Labour's rampant expansion of government spending
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Speaker 3: and how that's driving inflation and of course therefore keeping
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Speaker 3: interest rates high. These latest national accounts bear that out.
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Speaker 3: If you took out the record government spending on electricity
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Speaker 3: rebates and on the INDIS, which is blowing all of
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Speaker 3: its budgets, well, if you took all that out of
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Speaker 3: the economy, it would actually be shrinking already, and economists
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Speaker 3: are warning that the record spending is keeping mortgage rates
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Speaker 3: higher for longer. State and federal governments are pumping money
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Speaker 3: into the economy, pushing up inflation, forcing you to pay
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Speaker 3: more for everything, especially if.
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Speaker 2: You have a mortgage.
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Speaker 3: Now, have a look at this graph mapping the proportion
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Speaker 3: of GDP made up by government. How the share of
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Speaker 3: our economy made up by government spending. It should be
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Speaker 3: less than twenty five percent, and that's where the Coalition
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Speaker 3: has taken it twice this century.
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Speaker 2: But look at what's happening now, up on.
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Speaker 3: A steep rise, closer to thirty percent of the economy. Now,
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Speaker 3: all of this is unsustainable, and all of us will
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Speaker 3: pay eventually. Yet despite all this, not only does labor
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Speaker 3: expect us to be grateful, they've also found someone else
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Speaker 3: to blame.
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Speaker 4: First of all, people need to acknowledge that living standards
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Speaker 4: were falling very substantially when we came to office. You
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Speaker 4: don't always get that sense from some of the commentary
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Speaker 4: that's been written in recent times, But living standards were
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Speaker 4: falling very, very substantially when we came to office.
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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, hey, there you go. That's exactly what he's saying. There.
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Speaker 2: You know what he's saying. There.
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Speaker 3: He's returned to the album Easy Labor Government's theme song.
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Speaker 3: Yeah they don't reckon they're responsible for anything. Well, I
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Speaker 3: think voters will be the judge of that next year,
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Speaker 3: I want to show you some absolute fear mongering from
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Speaker 3: Simon Holmes of Courts Climate two hundred.
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Speaker 2: This is the mob behind the till.
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Speaker 3: So if you're thinking about voting for Allegra Spender or
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Speaker 3: Monique Ryan in Melbourne or Zoe Daniel's next door to
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Speaker 3: her in Melbourne or Kate Cheney in Perth, this is
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Speaker 3: the radical leftist scare campaign.
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Speaker 2: You are rewarding twenty five.
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Speaker 3: With the hottest day and the hottest months on records.
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Speaker 2: The song you wear is the ticking clock. Clim Attaction
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Speaker 2: is not optional. It's any impretative.
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Speaker 3: Now, apart from the scary pictures and soundtrack. The script
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Speaker 3: for that ad the words were provided by the United
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Speaker 3: Nations Secretary General Antonio Guteris.
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Speaker 2: This bloke is not a scientist.
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Speaker 3: Before he joined the Portuguese Socialist Party, he was an
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Speaker 3: engineering academic. He's been a political professional and proclaimed socialist
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Speaker 3: for fifty years. Kateri's was Secretary General of the Socialist
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Speaker 3: Party in Portugal before he went on to be the
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Speaker 3: Socialist Prime Minister of that country, and he even headed
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Speaker 3: up the Socialist International before heading to the United.
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Speaker 2: Nations to be the Commissioner for refugees.
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Speaker 3: Now this socialist lectures the world and Climate two hundred
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Speaker 3: and the TLMPS use him as their mouthpiece here. Climate
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Speaker 3: two hundred also are now trying to smear opposition leader
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Speaker 3: Peter Dutton by linking him in their advertising to Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
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Speaker 3: They're pretending there's something trumpion about Peter Dutton, which is
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Speaker 3: pretty pathetic.
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Speaker 2: Although to the.
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Speaker 3: Extent it reinforces the point that Dutton will be strong
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Speaker 3: on border security, supportive of Israel, and focused on reviving
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Speaker 3: the economy, it's not a bad comparison for the liberal
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Speaker 3: leader at all. Climate two hundred are also promoting another
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Speaker 3: ad full of swearing and juvenile comparisons.
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Speaker 5: Referential voting. Preferential voting allows you to tell the two
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Speaker 5: party system to go, because, unlike Americans who were forced
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Speaker 5: to choose between lights, preferential voting lets you vote for
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Speaker 5: a non candidate one who does stand with you instead
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Speaker 5: of coals, call and quantas. All you need to do
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Speaker 5: is put them first on your ballots before the major parties,
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Speaker 5: safe in the knowledge that even if they don't win,
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Speaker 5: your choices will still be counter which is why in Australia.
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Speaker 5: It's impossible to waste your vote, so you don't need
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Speaker 5: to vote like an American.
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Speaker 3: Just pathetic stuff, isn't I suppose if you like this
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Speaker 3: approach to politics, if you like a different shade of greens,
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Speaker 3: I guess the tills are for you. While the Climate
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Speaker 3: Council is still preaching climate alarmism and venturing into electricity
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Speaker 3: lies too, with their latest email to potential donors blaming
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Speaker 3: last week's power shortages on coal fired electricity. This is
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Speaker 3: simply untrue. Coal, along with gas, continues to deliver the
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Speaker 3: bulk of the power in the grid day after day,
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Speaker 3: coal providing fifty to sixty percent of the electricity on
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Speaker 3: the grid, with gas supplementing that with an extra up
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Speaker 3: to ten percent or so on most days and when
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Speaker 3: sometimes contributing a tiny fraction of the energy required.
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Speaker 2: But the Climate Council.
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Speaker 3: Continues to mislead people deliberately, and they turn on media
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Speaker 3: who deal in reality. Their email pleading for donations, of course,
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Speaker 3: also says that the Sky News and News Corp crowd
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Speaker 3: we need to melt down after last week's power shortages,
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Speaker 3: using the opportunity to run peace after piece of tired
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Speaker 3: myths about renewables and feverishly calling for more fossil fuels,
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Speaker 3: says the Climate Council, which then claim that climate change
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Speaker 3: is driving hotter, longer heat waves, that it's putting pressure
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Speaker 3: on our aging energy system. This is just astounding these
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Speaker 3: communications there. It's like war is peace again, Ignorance is strength.
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Speaker 2: Stuff.
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Speaker 3: These people talk about a couple of warm days as
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Speaker 3: a heat wave.
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Speaker 2: They say it's a lie to talk about.
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Speaker 3: The fact that renewables are intermittent, and then they've claimed
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Speaker 3: we've never faced whether this hot before and they pretend.
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Speaker 2: That renewable energy can power the nation.
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Speaker 3: Well, they also argue that Australia can change the global climate.
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Speaker 3: Just myth after myth, lie after lie, as they spread
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Speaker 3: fear and misinformation.
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Speaker 2: So if you really think the world is.
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Speaker 3: About to be destroyed, and do you think Australian wind
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Speaker 3: farms will save it, and you identify with the Socialist International,
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Speaker 3: then donate to the Climate Council, I guess and vote Teel.
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Speaker 3: Just don't forget to let the rest of us know
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Speaker 3: when the power grid is fixed and when prices have
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Speaker 3: come down and temperatures are just about right the way
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Speaker 3: we like them. Oh and of course, when the planet
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Speaker 3: is saved. The Australian abandonment of Israel, of Jewish Australians,
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Speaker 3: and of our strong democratic values on the international stage
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Speaker 3: is almost complete now. The capitulation by the Albanezy labor
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Speaker 3: government of the Middle East at the United Nations represents
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Speaker 3: the abysmal appeasement of terrorism. Under Foreign Minister Penny Wong,
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Speaker 3: Australia has rewarded the murderous terrorists of Hamas and Hesbalah
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Speaker 3: with a public relations victory in the General Assembly, breaking
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Speaker 3: from Israel and the US and voting in favor of
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Speaker 3: a fanciful Palestinian state. They argue, Australia's position is returning
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Speaker 3: to where it was twenty four years ago when President
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Speaker 3: Clinton tried to clinch a two state solution at Camp
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Speaker 3: David in those Talks of two thousand.
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Speaker 6: In the years leading up to that point, it was
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Speaker 6: a time when the international community and the parties themselves
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Speaker 6: came together to chart a path towards a two state solution,
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Speaker 6: a Palestinian state and the State of Israel side by
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Speaker 6: side within safe, secure and internationally recognized borders.
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Speaker 2: This is just so naive.
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Speaker 3: The Palestinians rejected a two states solution back in two thousand,
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Speaker 3: just as they have done every time it's been on
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Speaker 3: offer since the nineteen forties. There has never been a
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Speaker 3: Palestinian state, and the idea that Hamas or Hezbala or
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Speaker 3: Fatah can suddenly provide the leadership and stability to lead
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Speaker 3: a safe and secure state is simply not realistic. The
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Speaker 3: very first hurdle is yet to be overcome. Will they
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Speaker 3: accept Israel's right to exist? Australia is now joining the
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Speaker 3: un delusion that the Islamist leaders of the Palestinian people
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Speaker 3: want a two state solution. It's clear the extremists who
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Speaker 3: lead the Palestinians only want a one state solution from
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Speaker 3: the river to the sea, eliminating Israel.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard that phrase before.
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Speaker 3: If they wanted a two state solution, they would have
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Speaker 3: made Gaza work. Israel pulled out nearly two decades ago
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Speaker 3: and it's been flooded with international aid. But instead Hamas
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Speaker 3: and the Palestinians turned Gaza into a tunnel ridden weapons
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Speaker 3: depot from which to attack Israel and slaughter innocent people.
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Speaker 3: None of this is designed to win a two state solution.
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Speaker 3: All of this is designed and enable by the Islamic
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Speaker 3: Republic of Iran to perpetuate hatred and violence. It's sickening
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Speaker 3: to consider that the only thing that's changed, the only
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Speaker 3: action that has prompted the shift in Australia's position, is
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Speaker 3: the bloodshed on the ground. Australia under Labor has caved
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Speaker 3: into terrorism, giving the terrorists what they think the terrorists want. Well,
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Speaker 3: they've given Hamas and Hezbollah a morale boost, that's for sure,
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Speaker 3: but none of it will deliver any material benefit. In fact,
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Speaker 3: it will only help to extend hostilities. Why would terrorists
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Speaker 3: abandon their murderous ways when the United Nations attempts to
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Speaker 3: reward them for it. Australia has diminished its standing. It's
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Speaker 3: abandoned an ally, it's broken with our most powerful ally
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Speaker 3: in the United States, it's deserted again Jewish Australians, and
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Speaker 3: it's given a boost to every Islamist extremist in the world.
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Speaker 3: This is reckless and dangerous stuff, and the Opposition leader
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Speaker 3: Peter Dutton is right to say it's also driven by
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Speaker 3: base partisan politics at home.
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Speaker 7: He sold the Jewish community out in this country for
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Speaker 7: Green votes. In Western Sydney and in places like Marrickville,
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Speaker 7: that's what the Prime Minister has done. And I think
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Speaker 7: we should be standing with allies like the United States. Instead,
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Speaker 7: the Albanesi government is chasing green votes and they've been
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Speaker 7: prepared to sacrifice.
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Speaker 2: The well being of the Jewish community here in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Do so. Yeah, just terrible.
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Speaker 3: This government is unworthy of our nation and every day
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Speaker 3: they are in power, we are weaker and more vulnerable
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Speaker 3: at home and less respected by significant countries overseas. For
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Speaker 3: more on, let's let me go to Julian Lisampoo joining
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Speaker 3: us from Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Julian.
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Speaker 3: There was speculation there have been steps along the way
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Speaker 3: where this Labor government had been getting weaker and weaker
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Speaker 3: at the UN on Israel. There was speculation over the
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Speaker 3: night that they would capitulate. But it must have been
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Speaker 3: astonishing for you, especially as a member of the Jewish community,
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Speaker 3: to see this vote unfold.
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Speaker 8: Because this is a shameful day in the history of
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Speaker 8: Australian politics. The Labor Party have shredded decades of bipartisanship
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Speaker 8: in relation to Israel. And what has been terrible here
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Speaker 8: is the conduct of the Labor Party right from the
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Speaker 8: time they first came to office. Before the last election,
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Speaker 8: they promised that there would be no difference in the
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Speaker 8: foreign policy of Australia whether it was a coalition government
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Speaker 8: or a Labor government. But they've been shredding it every
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Speaker 8: single day that they've been office. In office, remember what
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Speaker 8: Penny Wong did and said after the seventh of October,
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Speaker 8: while while women were still being raped and while the
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Speaker 8: terrorists were going to door, she said that Israel should
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Speaker 8: exercise restraint. When she went to Israel, she couldn't even
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Speaker 8: go south to visit the kibbutzim and see the scenes
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Speaker 8: of the crime. This is, as Peter Dutton says, all
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Speaker 8: about a grubby political exercise in Labour, trying to hoover
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Speaker 8: up votes, selling out our fundamental values on the international stage,
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Speaker 8: Australia not standing with its traditional allies like the United States,
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Speaker 8: not standing with a democratic country, instead standing with terrorist organizations.
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Speaker 8: And I've got a very big question to ask the
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Speaker 8: Labor Party here, Chris. Labour claims to have within its
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Speaker 8: ranks people like Richard Males and Mark Dreyfus who claimed
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Speaker 8: to be supporters of the State of Israel, but they
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Speaker 8: have been silent for more than a year while opponents
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Speaker 8: of Israel who also sit in the cabinet, like Ed Husick,
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Speaker 8: like Jason Clair, like Tony Burke, have been allowed to freewheel.
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Speaker 8: At what point does Mark Dreyfus and Richard Marles say enough,
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Speaker 8: we cannot stand by and let this happen. We need
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Speaker 8: to resign on a point of principle, because if they don't,
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Speaker 8: they will show themselves to be the cowardly lions of
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Speaker 8: Australian politics. This is a shameful day in the history
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Speaker 8: of our foreign policy and shows everything about what the
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Speaker 8: modern Labor Party has become.
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Speaker 3: Well, there are people in the Labor Party who are
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Speaker 3: very concerned about there's very few of them speaking out
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Speaker 3: so far. But as you say, there must be people
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Speaker 3: in the caucus and in the cabinet right now who
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Speaker 3: deeply disagree with what's happening there, and the owners should
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Speaker 3: be on them.
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Speaker 2: To speak out. There is such a contrast here.
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Speaker 8: As resign, speak out and resign Chris. It's come to
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Speaker 8: that we cannot have our foreign policy being dictated to
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Speaker 8: by base political interests and one political party deciding they
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Speaker 8: will sell out our values in order to appeal to
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Speaker 8: Green voters in the City and is limits in other
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Speaker 8: parts of the country.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's just put that down.
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Speaker 3: You're talking about Richard Marles as the Deputy Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: And of course and Mark Mark Dreyfus is the Attorney
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Speaker 2: journal General.
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Speaker 3: Because it's taking a position like this would have to
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Speaker 3: be a cabinet decision or have the impromata of cabinet.
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Speaker 3: So if they disagree with it, they should resign.
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Speaker 2: That is my view, Chris.
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Speaker 8: When I disagreed with the position my party had taken
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Speaker 8: on a point of principle, I resigned. This is a very,
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Speaker 8: very important point. This is about our fundamental foreign policy.
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Speaker 8: I want to see Richard Miles and Mark Dreyfuths show
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Speaker 8: some guts and demonstrate that they're prepared to put their
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Speaker 8: money where their mouth is here because the government has
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Speaker 8: gone too far on this point, and I'm sick of
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Speaker 8: seeing the slices of the salami here of Labor with
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Speaker 8: every resolution going closer and closer and closer to organizations
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Speaker 8: that are fundamentally a post for Strata's values. If people
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Speaker 8: in the Labor Party really claim to be friends of
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Speaker 8: Israel and support the Jewish community, they shouldn't be going
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Speaker 8: along with this because they are giving cover to Pennywong
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Speaker 8: and to Anthony Albanisi and the terrible things that they're doing.
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Speaker 8: And every time they delegitimize the Jewish state, they delegitimize
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Speaker 8: Jewish Australians and give cover to the antisemitism that has
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Speaker 8: been unleashed since the seventh of October, anti Semitism in
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Speaker 8: this country, which is unprecedented, UnAustralian and off the charts.
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Speaker 3: I agree with what you're saying, as you know, Julian,
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Speaker 3: I've been talking about it for over a year now
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Speaker 3: and it breaks my heart. But let's just look to
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Speaker 3: the other aspect of this, the practicality of it. If
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Speaker 3: they say they're trying to push towards a two state solution,
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Speaker 3: now is going to be the worst time to be
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Speaker 3: talking about that. There's just no evidence of any significant
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Speaker 3: leadership in the Palestinian people of who would run a
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Speaker 3: two state solution, of where as borders would be, or
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Speaker 3: indeed if there's any capacity on the Palestinian side to
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Speaker 3: even recognize the right of Israel to exist.
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Speaker 8: You're absolutely right about this Chriase. It shows that our
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Speaker 8: foreign policy is being made by people who just do
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Speaker 8: not understand the realities on the ground.
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Speaker 1: And how can you possibly talk.
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Speaker 8: About recognizing a Palestinian state at point when Hamas still
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Speaker 8: is holding one hundred people hostage, including children and women.
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Speaker 8: When you've got many of the Palestinian actors who, as
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Speaker 8: you say, do not recognize the writer of the state
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Speaker 8: of Israel to exist. This is putting the cart well
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Speaker 8: and truly before the harse. You know, if you want
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Speaker 8: to embark on the peace process in the Middle East,
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Speaker 8: you need to go back to the sixth of October.
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Speaker 8: That's exactly what Israel was doing, making peace with more
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Speaker 8: and more of its neighbors. Some of these Palestinian actors
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Speaker 8: didn't like that fact. They didn't like the fact that
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Speaker 8: Israel and the Saudis were poised to sign a deal.
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Speaker 8: And that's what these terrorist attacks rule about to reward
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Speaker 8: the Palestinians at this point, for this action makes absolutely
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Speaker 8: no sense and is a dereliction of the foreign policy traditions.
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Speaker 1: Of this country.
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Speaker 2: Julian Lisa thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Chris.
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Speaker 3: Julian Lisa there, Liberal MP joining us live from Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Contrast what's happened in Australia, what Australia has done here
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Speaker 3: to the strength showing earlier this week by Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: in calling for those hostages to be released, in fact,
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Speaker 3: threatening strong action once he resumes the White House if
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Speaker 3: they're not. Now, let's go back to another long running issue.
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Speaker 3: It's been eighteen months since the World Health Organization declared
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Speaker 3: the COVID nineteen pandemic over, but I've seen some people
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Speaker 3: didn't get the memo. I was listening to two GB's
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Speaker 3: Ben Fordham yesterday and heard a call us say that
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Speaker 3: the Federal police still have vaccine mandates in place.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: As you know, vaccine mandates were never reasonable. They were
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Speaker 3: always unfair, unnecessary, and ineffective, and we've campaigned hard against
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Speaker 3: them for years.
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Speaker 2: But I thought that all been scrapped.
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Speaker 3: So we checked the AFP website and sure enough, under
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Speaker 3: eligibility criteria, it says, provide evidence you've had two primary
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Speaker 3: doses of an approved COVID nineteen vaccine or one dose
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Speaker 3: of Johnson and Johnson. We reached out to the AFP
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Speaker 3: for comment. They say they're consulting with their workforce and
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Speaker 3: are considering revoking the mandate soon.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: We're a few weeks away from twenty twenty five and
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Speaker 3: they're stuck in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Let me bring in.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Clay College, Infectious Diseases physician from Perth.
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Clay.
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Speaker 3: This surely must have surprised you that there's lingering mandates
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Speaker 3: out there.
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Speaker 9: Look absolutely, Chris, I think you know, as you rightly
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Speaker 9: alluded to, we've moved on a long long way since
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Speaker 9: the mandates were introduced and the vaccines came in twenty
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Speaker 9: twenty one in February. COVID nineteen Now, I think what
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Speaker 9: we've got to realize is a very benign virus.
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Speaker 1: In the main.
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Speaker 9: I have not seen a patient die at my hospital
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Speaker 9: of COVID nineteen in almost two years now.
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Speaker 1: It very much.
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Speaker 9: Equates flu an RSV in power influenza, et cetera. And
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Speaker 9: in the main we don't have, except for influenza, any
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Speaker 9: form of mandate at all for staff to view required
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Speaker 9: vaccine vaccinated. So look, I was dagd when I saw that,
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Speaker 9: and the AFP need to just move into the modern
22:06
Speaker 9: times and rescind.
22:07
Speaker 2: That it sounds like they will. Now.
22:08
Speaker 3: Look, I can be generous and say that early on
22:11
Speaker 3: we can understand why some of the mandates were put
22:13
Speaker 3: in place, especially for people working in age care homes
22:16
Speaker 3: or in hospitals. But as the data came in and
22:19
Speaker 3: showed that they didn't stop people actually contracting the virus
22:21
Speaker 3: and passing it on. Really, these mandates should have disappeared
22:25
Speaker 3: very quickly, especially in other settings, Yet there was such
22:28
Speaker 3: reluctance from governments and health authorities to get rid of them.
22:32
Speaker 2: Do you understand why?
22:34
Speaker 1: Look, you know, we're very innately conservative.
22:37
Speaker 9: I think what we did early on when we're all
22:39
Speaker 9: scared witless back you know, when the outbreak occurred and
22:42
Speaker 9: we got the vaccines.
22:44
Speaker 1: We knew then that the vaccines.
22:46
Speaker 9: Probably didn't protect against acquisition of infection, but what we
22:50
Speaker 9: did see was it was muting severe disease and we
22:54
Speaker 9: weren't getting our hospitals overwhelmed.
22:55
Speaker 1: So it was a reasonable thing to do. And what
22:57
Speaker 1: we really wanted as.
22:59
Speaker 9: Infectious disease doctor's public health physicians was to get to
23:01
Speaker 9: about ninety percent of the population vaccinated. So we needed
23:05
Speaker 9: some form of coercion to do that, and it was
23:07
Speaker 9: probably justified in that early stage before we got the
23:11
Speaker 9: viral therapeutics, we tamed the virus. So look, I can
23:14
Speaker 9: understand early on while we did do it, and I
23:16
Speaker 9: was a fan of it initially, but then became pretty
23:19
Speaker 9: loukewarm as time's gone on. Me personally, I've not had
23:21
Speaker 9: a vaccine for a booster for two years. I've been
23:25
Speaker 9: infected i think five times with COVID this year with
23:27
Speaker 9: all the patients that I see, So I'm getting lots
23:29
Speaker 9: of natural immunity and hardly ever feel sick when I
23:31
Speaker 9: do get infected.
23:32
Speaker 1: So we just don't need that vaccine now going.
23:35
Speaker 9: Forward, and hopefully we will never need to go back
23:38
Speaker 9: to any form of mandate moving forward if we ever
23:41
Speaker 9: get another epidemical pandemic again.
23:43
Speaker 3: It's been a very polarized debate, and the noisiest crew
23:48
Speaker 3: has always been the real panic merks merchants lock everyone down,
23:52
Speaker 3: vaccinate everyone. On the other end, you've got the people
23:55
Speaker 3: who are just against all vaccinations, and they really amplify
23:58
Speaker 3: the injuries from vaccine nations. And obviously there have been
24:02
Speaker 3: some just on that. Can you give us a rational
24:05
Speaker 3: assessment now sort of five years on on how prevalent
24:09
Speaker 3: vaccine injuries have been and deaths and their proportion proportionally,
24:15
Speaker 3: what an impact they've had.
24:17
Speaker 9: Well, certainly there's a lot more people die of COVID
24:19
Speaker 9: than die or be maimed or severely made unwell with
24:23
Speaker 9: COVID vaccination, So that's a fraction of it. So the
24:27
Speaker 9: vaccines were very, very successful in stopping deaths, save millions
24:31
Speaker 9: of deaths.
24:31
Speaker 1: We're talking about a.
24:32
Speaker 9: Few hundred people that might have died of vaccine complications
24:35
Speaker 9: against tens of millions of lives saved. So the vaccines
24:39
Speaker 9: were worthwhile and were effective largely in the main in
24:43
Speaker 9: terms of reducing severe disease vaccine complications. And a lot
24:46
Speaker 9: of these complications are over blowing as well too when
24:49
Speaker 9: you're really drilled down into it.
24:51
Speaker 1: So I can't give you exact figures.
24:52
Speaker 9: But you were much better off to be immunized than
24:55
Speaker 9: getting a severe dose of COVID early on in the outbreak.
24:58
Speaker 9: So hopefully, as we develop our national CDC and set
25:02
Speaker 9: good policy, hopefully this sort of thing won't happen again
25:06
Speaker 9: where we panic and then mandate widespread imnization, and hopefully
25:10
Speaker 9: that never occurs, and let's just hope we never get
25:12
Speaker 9: another global pandemic of this sort of nature.
25:15
Speaker 1: But of course we're much more responsive now too.
25:19
Speaker 2: We did learn I hope we learned those lessons though Clay.
25:22
Speaker 3: I really hope we do that. I'm worried that some
25:24
Speaker 3: people haven't learned them. But great to talk to you again.
25:26
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, doctor Clay. College there, infectious diseases physician.
25:30
Speaker 3: It was always a voice of common sense throughout the pandemic,
25:35
Speaker 3: and it was again there.
25:36
Speaker 2: We've got to get to a break.
25:37
Speaker 3: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
25:39
Speaker 3: Coalition MP Susan mcdonald' going to talk about our economy
25:42
Speaker 3: on life support and interest rates staying high. The Treasurer
25:45
Speaker 3: seems to think he's doing pretty well, though. Let's go
25:52
Speaker 3: back to this bad news for labor from the GDP
25:55
Speaker 3: figures that were out today showing the economy grew or
25:58
Speaker 3: poultry zero point three percent in the three months to September.
26:02
Speaker 2: That's less than one percent over a full.
26:04
Speaker 3: Year, propped up, as we pointed out last night, by
26:07
Speaker 3: record government spending. The Treasurer tried to put a positive
26:11
Speaker 3: spin on the numbers while trashing the coalition.
26:15
Speaker 4: Rather avoid a hard landing than clean up after one.
26:19
Speaker 4: And we're seeing elements of a soft landing here and
26:22
Speaker 4: that gives us encouragement that acknowledging people are still doing
26:26
Speaker 4: it tough, and growth is still weak in the economy.
26:28
Speaker 4: If we'd made the sorts of decisions urged on us
26:31
Speaker 4: by our opponents and our critics, growth would be weaker
26:34
Speaker 4: and people would be getting less help and may be
26:36
Speaker 4: worse off.
26:37
Speaker 3: Oh, we're supposed to be so grateful to Jim Charmers.
26:41
Speaker 3: He's managing things just smoothly according to his own assessments.
26:45
Speaker 3: But Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor was having none of it.
26:49
Speaker 10: This outcome reflects the complete and art of failure of
26:53
Speaker 10: Labour's Big Australia Big government policies. We have seen our
26:59
Speaker 10: population increase by almost one point six million since Labor
27:02
Speaker 10: came to power, at a much faster rate than we
27:05
Speaker 10: had previously seen. We see a person arriving to live
27:10
Speaker 10: in this country every forty four seconds, every forty four seconds,
27:15
Speaker 10: and of course that population rate growth is outpacing substantially
27:21
Speaker 10: the growth in the economy.
27:24
Speaker 3: Let's bring in the Shadow Resources Minister Susan McDonald joining
27:26
Speaker 3: us from Brisbane.
27:27
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Susan.
27:28
Speaker 3: This the immigration factor is key, right because it's sort
27:32
Speaker 3: of helping to bump up the numbers increase the size
27:37
Speaker 3: of the economy. But it means that as a share,
27:41
Speaker 3: as a personal share, we're all getting poorer. There is
27:43
Speaker 3: a per capita ongoing per capita recession.
27:49
Speaker 11: Well, that's exactly right, Chris.
27:50
Speaker 12: We've had six falls in the GDP per capita over
27:56
Speaker 12: six quarters. This is disastrous for Australians. It is a
28:00
Speaker 12: failure of the Labour's policies. And what we're saying is
28:04
Speaker 12: record insolvencies for businesses. This is a race we don't
28:07
Speaker 12: want to keep winning. Each month we're having greater records.
28:12
Speaker 12: Productivities down by six point three percent since Labor came
28:16
Speaker 12: into government two years ago.
28:17
Speaker 11: Two and a bit years ago.
28:19
Speaker 12: But at every turn, this is a government that's failing
28:23
Speaker 12: Australians and the population. The immigration increase is just one
28:27
Speaker 12: more example because right across the country, what I'm seeing
28:31
Speaker 12: is the sort of visas, the sort of workforce that
28:34
Speaker 12: we're looking for, people coming into real jobs that grow businesses.
28:39
Speaker 11: That's not happening.
28:40
Speaker 12: Instead, I think we're seeing a huge number of people
28:44
Speaker 12: come in who don't have employment, and they aren't actually
28:48
Speaker 12: adding to the economy at all.
28:50
Speaker 11: Chris.
28:50
Speaker 12: We're just seeing Australians hurt more go backwards, and I
28:55
Speaker 12: think that's The consistent theme is that Australians will tell
28:59
Speaker 12: you that they feel worse off. It doesn't matter what
29:03
Speaker 12: Jim Chalmers says. They are worse off.
29:05
Speaker 2: Well, people are worse off. The facts bear that out.
29:07
Speaker 3: Per capita, we're going backwards, So people are poorer. As
29:11
Speaker 3: you say, for six quarters in a row, I think
29:13
Speaker 3: I might have been the seventh quarter this time around,
29:15
Speaker 3: So seven quarters in a row people are actually poorer.
29:19
Speaker 2: Yet the government's share of the.
29:20
Speaker 3: Economy continues to increase twenty eight percent.
29:23
Speaker 2: Now it's such a worry.
29:25
Speaker 3: I showed some stats last night on the labor force
29:28
Speaker 3: showing that the top three growth areas in jobs growth
29:32
Speaker 3: in the country are an area is dominated by the
29:35
Speaker 3: government in health and disability services in the administration. This
29:39
Speaker 3: is a worry, isn't it. We need the productive private
29:42
Speaker 3: sector parts of the economy to grow, not the number
29:46
Speaker 3: of public servants.
29:49
Speaker 11: That's exactly right, Chris.
29:50
Speaker 12: I kept wondering why every business I was seeing was
29:53
Speaker 12: telling me that they were having to cut back on employment,
29:56
Speaker 12: reduce staff numbers, or worse, go out of business, but
29:59
Speaker 12: we weren't seeing it in the employment numbers. In the
30:02
Speaker 12: last quarter we saw four hundred and seventeen thousand private
30:07
Speaker 12: sector jobs go, but it was completely disguised by the
30:11
Speaker 12: government putting on more than that into public public sector jobs. Now,
30:18
Speaker 12: those jobs are valuable and those people are valuable, but
30:21
Speaker 12: we need businesses that pay taxes. We need people that
30:25
Speaker 12: grow the economy, because if we keep spending money on
30:29
Speaker 12: government jobs, we will run out of people to pay
30:32
Speaker 12: for them.
30:32
Speaker 11: This is structurally a.
30:36
Speaker 12: Very difficult situation and Australian should all be incredibly concerned
30:42
Speaker 12: about the damage that this alb and easy labor government
30:45
Speaker 12: has done in only two and.
30:47
Speaker 11: A half years.
30:48
Speaker 12: Well, this is two and a half years to make
30:49
Speaker 12: such structural damage.
30:51
Speaker 2: Susan McDonald.
30:52
Speaker 3: This is the conundrum, though, isn't it say if the
30:54
Speaker 3: Coalition were to win government back next year and suddenly
30:57
Speaker 3: get control of the treasury benches. The issue is that
31:01
Speaker 3: it is structural and you do need to wind back
31:04
Speaker 3: on that government spending. But on the current situation, if
31:07
Speaker 3: you wind back on that government spending, you're going to
31:09
Speaker 3: tip the country into recession and obviously see unemployment rise.
31:13
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very very difficult situation to manage.
31:18
Speaker 12: It really is, and I know that one of the
31:21
Speaker 12: things you've been following.
31:22
Speaker 11: Closely is the gas shortages.
31:25
Speaker 12: A EMO has made enough warning these are Victorian manufacturing jobs.
31:31
Speaker 12: And yet at the same time, one of the pieces
31:33
Speaker 12: of legislation that labor jammed through last week was the
31:39
Speaker 12: Future Made in Australia, which has a commitment to not
31:43
Speaker 12: fund any future gas or coal projects. At the same
31:47
Speaker 12: time that we have a gas shortage and we are
31:50
Speaker 12: desperately trying to save Australian manufacturing jobs, be able to
31:54
Speaker 12: cool and warm Australian houses and ensure that the Victorian
31:58
Speaker 12: economy doesn't completely tank.
32:01
Speaker 2: Well, this is where the energy debate.
32:02
Speaker 3: This is where the energy debate just plays so strongly
32:05
Speaker 3: into the economic debate, the broader economic debate. We need
32:09
Speaker 3: a productive economy, we need agriculture and manufacturing and mining
32:14
Speaker 3: to keep expanding, and yet yet we're burdening ourselves for
32:18
Speaker 3: ever more expensive and less reliable energy.
32:24
Speaker 11: That's exactly right.
32:25
Speaker 12: I think that this is you know, we've watched labor
32:28
Speaker 12: fail in Victoria over a long period of time. Labor
32:32
Speaker 12: federally under Albin Easy is doubling down.
32:35
Speaker 11: On these failures.
32:37
Speaker 12: And I think that when we see jobs offshore, so
32:41
Speaker 12: we're losing them, not just in Victoria, but we're losing
32:44
Speaker 12: them to Australia. This is something that Australian should be
32:48
Speaker 12: should be very angry about and worried about. What does
32:52
Speaker 12: the future look like if all the jobs that are
32:55
Speaker 12: coming on are all government jobs, but the productive jobs,
32:58
Speaker 12: the jobs that grow the economy, that pay the taxes,
33:01
Speaker 12: that ensure that we enjoy the first world lifestyle that
33:05
Speaker 12: we have. We're seeing those exit the country as soon
33:09
Speaker 12: as we can.
33:09
Speaker 3: Chris, hell of a worry, hell of a problem. Thanks
33:12
Speaker 3: for joining us, Susan. I appreciate it. Very depressing outlook,
33:15
Speaker 3: isn't it. You've got to be very pessimistic when you're
33:17
Speaker 3: looking at those terms. But that is what's happening, and
33:20
Speaker 3: that's why it needs to change.
33:21
Speaker 2: You've got to have a break. On the other side.
33:22
Speaker 2: IM going to have more on Australia's.
33:24
Speaker 3: Shameful stand out it's anti Israel stand at the United Nations.
33:28
Speaker 2: Don't go away.
33:33
Speaker 3: I had a bit to say at the top of
33:35
Speaker 3: the program about the Albanese labor government's capitulation over Israel
33:39
Speaker 3: at the United Nations. If you ever missed the opening editorials,
33:42
Speaker 3: you can go back and catch up on foxtail on
33:45
Speaker 3: demand or through the Sky News websites or YouTube channel
33:49
Speaker 3: to see those editorials. But anyway, the point here is
33:52
Speaker 3: that Penny Wong and Anthony Albanezi have betrayed the Australian
33:57
Speaker 3: Jewish community. They've turned their back on Israel, distance themselves
34:01
Speaker 3: from our great ally in the United States through this
34:04
Speaker 3: year United Nations stand, and they've.
34:07
Speaker 2: Also rewarded terrorism.
34:09
Speaker 3: They've essentially backed the unformed, naive, unrealistic aspiration for a
34:19
Speaker 3: Palestinian state soon.
34:21
Speaker 2: And what's pushed them into making that change.
34:24
Speaker 3: In Australia's position has been the bloodshed perpetrated by Hamas
34:29
Speaker 3: and Hezbollah against innocent in Israelis. It's sickening to see
34:34
Speaker 3: terrorism shift Australia's policies like this, but that's what's happened,
34:38
Speaker 3: and here's what the Opposition leader, Peter Dutton has had
34:41
Speaker 3: to say about it today.
34:43
Speaker 7: He looked people of Jewish faith in the eye before
34:45
Speaker 7: the election and gave them a guarantee that there would
34:48
Speaker 7: be no difference between the two parties, that there would
34:51
Speaker 7: be bipartisan positions in relation to votes at the UN
34:54
Speaker 7: and our position with regard to Israel. They've completely abandoned
34:58
Speaker 7: the Jewish community of Israel. There is a lot of anger,
35:01
Speaker 7: understandably in the community at the moment with the way
35:04
Speaker 7: in which the government has sold out the Jewish community.
35:07
Speaker 7: And I think the Prime Minister stands condemned because.
35:10
Speaker 3: That's got now to Alex Ritchin from the Executive Council
35:13
Speaker 3: of Australian Jury and joining me live from Sydney thanks
35:16
Speaker 3: to talking to us again. Alex, you must be wondering
35:19
Speaker 3: where this constant walking away from Israel will end with
35:23
Speaker 3: this government.
35:25
Speaker 13: Well, this has been going on for a long time now.
35:28
Speaker 13: Step by step, this government is taking our country further
35:32
Speaker 13: away from the US Alliance, and further away from its
35:35
Speaker 13: partnership and friendship with a democratic ally in the Middle East,
35:38
Speaker 13: which is Israel, and further away from the train Jewish community.
35:41
Speaker 13: There's no denying that. And the fact that it's happening
35:44
Speaker 13: during wartime, when Israel still faces enormous threats, whether it's
35:49
Speaker 13: troops are still fighting and dying, when the hostage remaining captivity,
35:54
Speaker 13: it really sharpens the betrayal. We for more than seven
35:57
Speaker 13: decades in this country have had bipartisan consensus. Liberal labor
36:02
Speaker 13: have all supported the idea of a negotiated to a
36:04
Speaker 13: state solution to end the conflict. That is now as
36:07
Speaker 13: good as dead because Australia is now calling for Israel's
36:09
Speaker 13: unilateral and immediate withdrawal from the West Bank and from
36:12
Speaker 13: East Jerusalem. So that is a cataclysmic shift in Australia's position.
36:18
Speaker 3: Not only is that a ridiculous shift, in a cataclysmic shift,
36:21
Speaker 3: as you say, in Australia's position, it is also absolutely impractical.
36:26
Speaker 3: It would not cannot happen under current circumstances.
36:29
Speaker 2: So it's just an idiotic position for us to align
36:32
Speaker 2: ourselves with.
36:32
Speaker 3: I'm wondering to what extent the Albanesi Labor government and
36:36
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Penny Wong and her advisors have consulted with
36:41
Speaker 3: the Australian Jewish community over any of these changes.
36:45
Speaker 13: The consultation has been minimal to none. So we are
36:48
Speaker 13: paid a courtesy of a phone call explaining the government's
36:52
Speaker 13: position and what they're going to do. But it's not
36:55
Speaker 13: really a discussion. It's not really an opportunity to present
36:58
Speaker 13: our viewpoint. It's presented as a fatal complete this is
37:01
Speaker 13: what's being done.
37:03
Speaker 1: So there was a.
37:04
Speaker 13: Time when we had I suppose closer relations with the
37:07
Speaker 13: government and perhaps we're able to influence their decision making
37:10
Speaker 13: to a greater degree where our viewpoints and the views
37:13
Speaker 13: of the Jewish community will listened to. I don't think
37:16
Speaker 13: that's any longer the case. There are political considerations which
37:19
Speaker 13: are far bigger than our small Jewish community. We are
37:23
Speaker 13: seen as politically expendable, and I think the government has
37:27
Speaker 13: shown where it stands as they say, all politics is domestic,
37:31
Speaker 13: and I think this is very much geared towards the
37:33
Speaker 13: election next year and looking at the threat from the
37:36
Speaker 13: Greens and also from the Muslim community. But you know,
37:40
Speaker 13: ultimately the electorate, the widest trained community will punish labor
37:44
Speaker 13: for it. A strange demand politicians of integrity principle, not
37:48
Speaker 13: the ones that do whatever suits them to return to power.
37:52
Speaker 3: So I think them, well, this change and there's you
37:55
Speaker 3: in a resolution for that matter, is not going to
37:57
Speaker 3: deliver any benefit to the violence that exists in the
38:03
Speaker 3: Middle East now, It's not going to help to resolve
38:06
Speaker 3: that situation at all, which of course is the biggest issue.
38:09
Speaker 3: But I think the other big issue for Australia relating
38:12
Speaker 3: to Australia's stance is of course what Australia has done
38:15
Speaker 3: is a morale boost to the Islamist terrorists of Hummas
38:19
Speaker 3: and Hezbollara and their supporters in the region. But as
38:22
Speaker 3: I said at the opening of the program, it's essentially
38:25
Speaker 3: a morale boost to Islamist extremists everywhere around the world,
38:29
Speaker 3: including in Australia. We've seen so much rampant hatred in
38:33
Speaker 3: this country due hatred anti Semitism over the past thirteen
38:36
Speaker 3: months or so, since October the sixth last October the seventh,
38:40
Speaker 3: last year.
38:41
Speaker 2: What are you.
38:42
Speaker 3: Concerned about that You're concerned that Islamist extremism is being
38:46
Speaker 3: rewarded here by our own government of course, of course.
38:51
Speaker 13: And when this war eventually ends in the doest settles
38:54
Speaker 13: Hummus or what's left of it and similar Islamist organizations
38:58
Speaker 13: thtout the world and the Raining regime and other ROADU
39:00
Speaker 13: states will evaluate what was accomplished by October seven, and
39:03
Speaker 13: they will look at the fact that as a result
39:06
Speaker 13: of that bloodshed, of that carnage, of that barbarism, they
39:10
Speaker 13: managed to bloody Israel's reputation in the international stage. That
39:15
Speaker 13: former allies like Australia, rather than rushing to assist Israel
39:19
Speaker 13: after it was attacked in such a way actually backed
39:22
Speaker 13: away from it. So while militarily they would have been
39:25
Speaker 13: absolutely decimated, in terms of propaganda and pr and political
39:29
Speaker 13: victories coming from violence, they would view this as a success.
39:32
Speaker 13: And that is such a dangerous message to send and
39:36
Speaker 13: it's contrary to our national interests. And I think, you know,
39:39
Speaker 13: the government thinks they're doing something that's politically useful for them,
39:42
Speaker 13: but I think they'll get a nasty shock next year.
39:44
Speaker 1: As a result.
39:45
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Alex. That's so spot on, Alex
39:48
Speaker 3: Rifchin there, that is the problem. Australia is helping to
39:51
Speaker 3: fulfill the desires of Hamas and Hezbollah. It's a win
39:55
Speaker 3: for them. Thank you very much. Anthony Albanisi and Penny
39:59
Speaker 3: Wong shameful. Got to have a break after that. The
40:02
Speaker 3: Wednesday Wrangle with Liz and Justin. We'll talk about the
40:05
Speaker 3: Comworth Bank backflipping on that cash withdrawal fee, plus concerns
40:09
Speaker 3: for Joe Biden's well being. Let's get into the Wednesday
40:18
Speaker 3: Wrangle with my regular guest Justin Smith joins us live
40:22
Speaker 3: from Melbourne, Columbus broadcaster author all the rest of it
40:25
Speaker 3: and on the desk key with me. He's late debates
40:27
Speaker 3: co host store good to see you. We've got to
40:30
Speaker 3: start on the Comworth Bank, don't we justin This is.
40:32
Speaker 2: A pr disaster of I've ever seen one.
40:35
Speaker 3: Yesterday they were going to charge people three bucks to
40:37
Speaker 3: withdraw their own cash.
40:38
Speaker 2: Outrage.
40:39
Speaker 3: They stuck by it for a while, but now back
40:42
Speaker 3: to the drawing board.
40:44
Speaker 14: I love that they've lost this one. You've got to admire,
40:49
Speaker 14: just to an extent, only to a small extent. You've
40:51
Speaker 14: got to admire the gumption on these mongrels. They said,
40:55
Speaker 14: they've obviously got a whole committee set up.
40:57
Speaker 2: Four ways that they can do.
40:59
Speaker 14: This is all banks. They can slide in a fee
41:01
Speaker 14: without anybody noticing. Well we did notice, and the backlash
41:06
Speaker 14: has been absolutely gorgeous.
41:08
Speaker 2: It's my favorite story of the week. I've got to.
41:10
Speaker 3: Say, everybody loves a bit of bank pashing.
41:13
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to The bank had to say itself.
41:17
Speaker 15: Clearly, we've done a poor job of communicating aspects of
41:21
Speaker 15: this change for our customers. We know that account changes
41:26
Speaker 15: are difficult, and especially at this time of year and
41:29
Speaker 15: with so many Australians challenge with cost of living pressures,
41:34
Speaker 15: we're going to pause the changes that we announce, and
41:37
Speaker 15: we're going to spend the next six months individually engaging
41:41
Speaker 15: with each of those customers to make sure that we
41:44
Speaker 15: have a solution tailored for each one of them.
41:48
Speaker 2: Imagine the scenes is a force of that guy. You're
41:51
Speaker 2: the one.
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Speaker 3: No, no, you've got to go talk to the media.
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Speaker 2: It's only a pause. Oh yeah.
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Speaker 16: They have not said we are not doing this. And
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Speaker 16: the irony that CBA customer's got an email saying we're
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Speaker 16: closing this particular kind of count and we're switching you
42:09
Speaker 16: to a new account called smart Access, where it's going
42:14
Speaker 16: to cost you three dollars to access said money.
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Speaker 2: Where do these guys get off.
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Speaker 16: They've posted over a nine billion dollar profit, so they're
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Speaker 16: doing very nicely, thank you very much. Over the last
42:26
Speaker 16: five years, they've closed over three hundred and fifty branches.
42:30
Speaker 16: They've also acts over fifty four percent of their ATMs,
42:35
Speaker 16: and so they've cut costs significantly for themselves and smashing
42:40
Speaker 16: the consumer. You are going to have people simply opting
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Speaker 16: for a different bank. It was madness to begin.
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Speaker 3: It was madness, and they needed to talk to their
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Speaker 3: consumers first. There is actually an ABC angle on this
42:52
Speaker 3: fuck justin you'll be surprised to know.
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Speaker 14: And I'll have you indumption a thing I'll do count play.
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Speaker 3: How could they mangle an exercise like this so badly?
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Speaker 3: Don't they have a team of highly paid spin doctors
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Speaker 3: and whatever the new head of corporate affairs appointed I
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Speaker 3: don't know.
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Speaker 2: Earlier this year. Wasn't it Gavin Morris who used to
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Speaker 2: do the same thing at the ABC? Right I did?
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Speaker 2: I had no idea there was a connection.
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Speaker 14: Well done mate, thinking on digging that one out, yes, certainly, certainly,
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Speaker 14: certainly pr disaster rubbish, But I'm glad because it'll send out.
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Speaker 14: It leaves a rotting corpse for the other banks out
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Speaker 14: there that might try and do the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Well exactly if it.
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Speaker 3: Went smooth, If it went smoothly, they all would have
43:38
Speaker 3: brought in the same charges. So the Comwealth Bank and
43:41
Speaker 3: gall On Morrison's already flagged.
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Speaker 2: It's not over. This is just a pause. It's a
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Speaker 2: very temporary mea culpa. When you get letters and emails
43:52
Speaker 2: from your bank, read them, read them. They might be
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Speaker 2: hiding something like.
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Speaker 11: The probably in the fine print too.
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Speaker 2: No, I want to go to some good news.
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Speaker 3: I suppose that's good news too, and for now that's
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Speaker 3: been sort of But we've talked a lot this week
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Speaker 3: about pubs and Australia Day. I want to show you
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Speaker 3: a publican, the leading publican in South Australia here, he's
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Speaker 3: got the right attitude, Peter Hurley. He says that we're
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Speaker 3: in the fun business, we're not in the political correctness business.
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Speaker 2: And he's saying Liz.
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Speaker 3: That they're looking forward to Australia Day at their pubs,
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Speaker 3: putting on parties, flying the flag and celebrating.
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Speaker 16: It's like the only day that twoop is legal.
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Speaker 2: Everyone goes nuts.
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Speaker 16: It's an Australia Day tradition. You go to the service,
44:33
Speaker 16: and then oh and Zac Day you go to the
44:36
Speaker 16: service and then well there's still services on Australia Day.
44:41
Speaker 2: You've got the rule. You're living an accouncil still.
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Speaker 16: I'm an own city councilor so I had a service
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Speaker 16: every yes for the citizenships, but yeah, and then everyone
44:53
Speaker 16: goes to the pub on Australia Day. Isn't it sad
44:56
Speaker 16: though that this is now remarkable a publican saying we
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Speaker 16: are going to celebrate our national day. Just years ago
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Speaker 16: we would have gone God forbid, we see the day
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Speaker 16: that that is newsworthy and here.
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Speaker 3: We are, Yeah, that's newsworthy headlines pub will celebrate Australia.
45:16
Speaker 2: They but good on Peter Hurley another way he put it,
45:18
Speaker 2: he's a made of mine. I know him well.
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Speaker 3: He just won one of his pubs in Adelaide, the Arkaba,
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Speaker 3: just won best pub in the country.
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Speaker 2: So he knows what he's talking about.
45:25
Speaker 3: And to me, what this bears out, I think, Justin
45:28
Speaker 3: is that this big conglomerate, Asian owned conglomerate of two
45:31
Speaker 3: hundred pubs, they needn't know their customers. They've never been
45:34
Speaker 3: in their own front bar and spoken to people about
45:37
Speaker 3: what they want to do, whereas other publicans like Hurley
45:39
Speaker 3: and others, they actually they don't actually get to run
45:42
Speaker 3: their pubs and make a profit unless they know the
45:44
Speaker 3: customers and they know the customers don't want politics in
45:48
Speaker 3: the front bar.
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Speaker 14: Well, look, I mean everything, it's been a confusing week,
45:53
Speaker 14: and it's certainly been confusing for this group of pubs,
45:57
Speaker 14: this overseas conglomerate as you call them. Everything is going
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Speaker 14: to be easier once we change the date, once we
46:03
Speaker 14: get it to a decent day that all Australians can
46:05
Speaker 14: agree on and a day that works for everybody. We're
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Speaker 14: never going to have to talk this crap again. I
46:13
Speaker 14: don't think any pub. I don't think it's actually the
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Speaker 14: role of a pub to tell people what they can
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Speaker 14: and cannot celebrate. To be frank, you know, I'm a
46:21
Speaker 14: big fan of changing the date. I think that we've
46:23
Speaker 14: really got to do it. But to celebrate Australia Day,
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Speaker 14: I'm not going to stop them.
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Speaker 2: It is the very constant.
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Speaker 16: From doing celebrating this beautiful country that people find objectionable.
46:38
Speaker 16: They will still have exactly the same arguments justin saying,
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Speaker 16: you guys are celebrating colonialism, you guys are celebrating et cetera,
46:46
Speaker 16: et cetera.
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Speaker 2: And so on.
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Speaker 16: This is a hard day for some people in the community.
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Speaker 16: Changing the date will change absolutely nothing, which is beside
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Speaker 16: the point.
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Speaker 14: Of you, come on, let's of indigenous people in this
47:03
Speaker 14: by long. I've got to change the date. I've got
47:06
Speaker 14: a way to resolve this. I've got an absolutely brilliant
47:09
Speaker 14: plan to resolve this.
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Speaker 3: It would be it would be difficult to change the
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Speaker 3: date and satisfy everybody in this country.
47:14
Speaker 2: But if there's one man who could do it.
47:16
Speaker 3: Surely it would be the leader of the free World,
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden, because he's just turned up in Angola and
47:23
Speaker 3: he's wowed them there. And certainly if we brought him
47:26
Speaker 3: to Australia, stuck him in some city somewhere and asked
47:28
Speaker 3: him to.
47:29
Speaker 2: Talk with the Auto Q there, he came up with
47:31
Speaker 2: some sort of a plan. Have a look at how
47:33
Speaker 2: he dazzled.
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Speaker 17: Them in Angola, you know, with you and Angola the
47:39
Speaker 17: vibrant city and.
47:42
Speaker 1: Not the city.
47:43
Speaker 17: The city I know is not Angla, but in Angle
47:47
Speaker 17: in a vibrant city.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's the country, not the city. Don't
47:54
Speaker 2: get me wrong.
47:55
Speaker 3: As the name of the city is, I didn't have
47:59
Speaker 3: that up on the screen.
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Speaker 2: Do you reckon he knew what city he was in.
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Speaker 14: Justin I now, I look at look look. I know
48:10
Speaker 14: it's funny, but I can't join in the laughs. I'm
48:13
Speaker 14: sorry to be a wet blanket, but the guy's not well,
48:16
Speaker 14: he's a seriously ill man. He shouldn't be doing that job.
48:20
Speaker 14: He just shouldn't be doing it. I just wish you
48:23
Speaker 14: were incredibly sad to watch a seriously corrupt man.
48:28
Speaker 2: Therefore, I'm happy to love.
48:32
Speaker 3: I just think it's a pity a few more people
48:33
Speaker 3: went saying that three years ago, two years ago, they
48:36
Speaker 3: were all defending him.
48:37
Speaker 2: But just here's some more. Yeah, absolutely, here's some more
48:40
Speaker 2: of the big man in Africa.
49:08
Speaker 3: The head, the handshake. You did everything right, I just
49:11
Speaker 3: forgot the handshake. Yeah, it is a shocker. You are right, Justin.
49:15
Speaker 3: It's sad to see that Port Buk shouldn't be doing that.
49:17
Speaker 3: He's only got a few weeks to go anyway. But
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Speaker 3: that's all your time, all the time we got for you.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Justin and Liz love to
49:24
Speaker 3: wrangle every Wednesday with you have. We got a little
49:27
Speaker 3: bit of time for your feedback from last night's program
49:29
Speaker 3: where I talked about what was happening in the Middle
49:32
Speaker 3: East and what Donald Trump had said about it, and
49:35
Speaker 3: good on Donald Trump, says one of your take note,
49:38
Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi. Yeah, what a contrast this week. And also
49:42
Speaker 3: we've got someone saying, thank you, mister Trump, finally some
49:46
Speaker 3: moral clarity.
49:47
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is, moral clarity.
49:48
Speaker 3: I might write about this the weekend Australian because we
49:51
Speaker 3: haven't seen moral clarity like that for some time. Thanks
49:54
Speaker 3: for joining me, I'll be back tomorrow night as ever.
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Speaker 2: And here's Peter