Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / Maxx Crosby to the Ravens, Eagles Questions, Kelce’s Future & NFL Contract Boom
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
- 0:18Speaker 1: and Out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well out there
- 0:22Speaker 1: in the real world. And today we're going to react
- 0:27Speaker 1: to a trade that is now. I don't know if
- 0:31Speaker 1: you're listening this on Monday. It's a couple of days old,
- 0:33Speaker 1: but the Raiders have traded Max Crosby to the Baltimore
- 0:36Speaker 1: Ravens for a hul pick fourteen pick twenty twenty seven
- 0:42Speaker 1: to one, which on paper right now is more than
- 0:45Speaker 1: what the Cowboys got for Mike Parsons. So we will
- 0:50Speaker 1: dive into every angle, starting with Max the person, the player,
- 0:53Speaker 1: his loyalty to the Raiders, spy tech pulling the trigger,
- 0:57Speaker 1: the Ravens doing something that's a little have normal from historically,
- 1:01Speaker 1: they've never traded a pick that high the Eagles. There
- 1:05Speaker 1: are some rumors right now about Jalen Carter. Travis Kelcey
- 1:10Speaker 1: is potentially gonna sign with another team not named the
- 1:13Speaker 1: Kansay Chiefs. Khalil Mack has re signed with the Chargers,
- 1:18Speaker 1: so we will have the next couple of days the
- 1:20Speaker 1: free agent frenzy. The free agents aren't great, but I'm
- 1:24Speaker 1: sure we will get more trades. We will get more action.
- 1:27Speaker 1: So this is a busy, busy time for GMS assistant
- 1:31Speaker 1: GMS pro scouting directors, coaching staffs. This is fun, so
- 1:37Speaker 1: buckle up. We will have you covered all week long,
- 1:42Speaker 1: talking football, talking free agency, and love this time of year.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So it gives us a little couple of weeks to
- 1:50Speaker 1: you know, react to stuff before we get in to
- 1:52Speaker 1: the stretch of the draft, which is fun too. But
- 1:56Speaker 1: you know, by the time we get to the middle
- 1:57Speaker 1: of April, we're ready for the draft. So this is
- 2:01Speaker 1: this kind of sets the tone for what teams like,
- 2:04Speaker 1: Oh maybe they won't pick, you know, a running back,
- 2:07Speaker 1: or maybe they won't pick a linebacker. So it's fascinating
- 2:10Speaker 1: team building exercise. Obviously, a lot of teams have money
- 2:13Speaker 1: and some teams don't. So we will dive into it
- 2:16Speaker 1: all today and tomorrow we'll dive back into it. We'll
- 2:20Speaker 1: also probably do a mail bag sometime this week for
- 2:22Speaker 1: sure at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram
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- 2:41Speaker 1: and listens. You guys are that you know what, Just
- 2:46Speaker 1: dive into the pod and I want to start a
- 2:49Speaker 1: big picture on the player because I do feel for
- 2:53Speaker 1: Raider fans. This is a franchise, especially if you are
- 2:57Speaker 1: an older fan, that will once as good as it got.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I mean, historically they've had John Madden, They've had countless
- 3:06Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, they had one of the most legendary
- 3:09Speaker 1: owners in the history of sports. They won Super Bowls
- 3:12Speaker 1: in the eighties, they resurrected the franchise with John Gruden,
- 3:17Speaker 1: and then once they made the trade. Over the course
- 3:20Speaker 1: of the last twenty three years, after they made the
- 3:23Speaker 1: Super Bowl in two thousand and two, it has not
- 3:26Speaker 1: been good. And in twenty three years they have made
- 3:28Speaker 1: the playoffs twice and obviously have not won a playoff game.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It has been a lot of ugly and during that time,
- 3:35Speaker 1: especially during the you know, Postyle Davis era, which was
- 3:39Speaker 1: like twenty eleven twenty twelve, I thought they had two
- 3:42Speaker 1: guys who were just all in who the Raiders meant
- 3:45Speaker 1: everything to and you know, Khalil Mackamari Cooper were both traded.
- 3:50Speaker 1: But to me, Khalil not that he wasn't passionate about
- 3:53Speaker 1: a Raider, but listen, he's a modern day athlete who
- 3:55Speaker 1: was gonna pay him the most. The Raiders weren't see
- 3:57Speaker 1: you later audios Amari Laissez Fair didn't give a shit,
- 4:01Speaker 1: But Derek Carr was all in. Now we can argue
- 4:04Speaker 1: if he was good enough. I do think in twenty
- 4:06Speaker 1: sixteen before he hurt his ankle, you know, he was
- 4:09Speaker 1: competing to you know, win the MVP that year. They
- 4:12Speaker 1: were going to be the number one seed, and after
- 4:15Speaker 1: that happened, it was kind of hit or missed for
- 4:17Speaker 1: the rest of his Raider tenure obviously ended weird with Josh,
- 4:20Speaker 1: but I Derek was a very solid player for the
- 4:22Speaker 1: Raiders for a long time. Max to me's a Hall
- 4:24Speaker 1: of Fame level guy, and his passion for the brand,
- 4:28Speaker 1: his passion for the team. If you haven't got a chance,
- 4:31Speaker 1: His ten to twelve minute goodbye is one of the cooler,
- 4:37Speaker 1: more genuine things I've ever seen. I mean, the modern
- 4:40Speaker 1: day athlete just has their agency or their manager take
- 4:44Speaker 1: some picture of them, put it on some cool backdrop,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and then write words in the middle of thank you
- 4:51Speaker 1: and goodbye, and I love you, and it's somewhat hollow
- 4:55Speaker 1: and listen, in fairness, maybe those guys don't care. They're
- 4:58Speaker 1: just businessmen, which I'm tol okay with. It did feel
- 5:02Speaker 1: that Max was much more. He loved being a raider.
- 5:04Speaker 1: It meant everything to him, the organization, the effort. Sometimes
- 5:09Speaker 1: not to get sentimental here, but I'll just be sitting
- 5:12Speaker 1: there in silence, looking at my eight week old or
- 5:16Speaker 1: seven week old or whatever old he is. I'll just
- 5:18Speaker 1: be staring at Jack and I'll think, God, I got
- 5:21Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure on me to teach this
- 5:23Speaker 1: guy some just core value life lessons in life. And
- 5:27Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time, and any father knows
- 5:29Speaker 1: thinking of, you know, what are the things that I'm
- 5:31Speaker 1: going to instill in this human? What are going to
- 5:34Speaker 1: be some of his core values that are not negotiables?
- 5:38Speaker 1: And I do think Max kind of encapsulates a couple
- 5:42Speaker 1: of things that I am one hundred percent which I
- 5:45Speaker 1: would have done this, whether I was thinking about it
- 5:47Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks or not. Of like
- 5:49Speaker 1: passion for what you do. And I think most of
- 5:53Speaker 1: us are walking to rooms with smart people and are
- 5:57Speaker 1: never going to be the smartest guy in the room,
- 6:00Speaker 1: and you can go a long way. I can only
- 6:02Speaker 1: speak to America, but in this country, all in the
- 6:06Speaker 1: world that we live in, by just giving all out
- 6:11Speaker 1: effort in what you do all the time, consistently, go hard,
- 6:15Speaker 1: and in football that means physical energy. In some of
- 6:19Speaker 1: our professions it could be mental energy. But give all
- 6:23Speaker 1: you have when you're gonna do something, go all in.
- 6:27Speaker 1: What did they say in what was the movie called
- 6:33Speaker 1: with Mark Wahlberg, It's I want to say American Sniper,
- 6:37Speaker 1: but it's not. It's Lone Survivor. That moderation is for cowards.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. And I think Max
- 6:46Speaker 1: Crosby represents what every coach really values in a guy
- 6:52Speaker 1: whose effort is just great all the time. And to
- 6:57Speaker 1: have great effort, you've got to be in great shape,
- 6:59Speaker 1: you got to be prepared. This was a guy that
- 7:02Speaker 1: after his rookie year, checked himself into rehab, and anyone
- 7:06Speaker 1: that's followed his career, you're just like, this guy's just
- 7:08Speaker 1: a certified badass, changed his life, cleaned up his life,
- 7:12Speaker 1: and absolutely dominates on the field for mostly an awful organization.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So if I totally understand Raider fans even if you go,
- 7:19Speaker 1: which will dive into the compensation being bummed, because this
- 7:23Speaker 1: guy wasn't just a badass on the field. He wanted
- 7:26Speaker 1: to play for your team. I mean, how many players
- 7:29Speaker 1: in football and basketball and baseball cosmic stinks force trades
- 7:33Speaker 1: want somewhere else. I do believe that up until the
- 7:37Speaker 1: end of the year, the Max would have been very
- 7:40Speaker 1: cool being a Raider for life. And I think when
- 7:42Speaker 1: he said it, he meant it, and when they benched
- 7:44Speaker 1: him or forced him to get knee surgery like it
- 7:47Speaker 1: was the right move. It was the proper business move.
- 7:51Speaker 1: And I think it also represents why Max Crosby is
- 7:56Speaker 1: who he is that he was like, fuck you, I
- 8:00Speaker 1: don't give a shit about the number one overall pick.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I want to play because in this team, it's not
- 8:07Speaker 1: like we're playing a lot of playoff games. The only
- 8:09Speaker 1: thing I have to hang my hat on is our
- 8:11Speaker 1: regular season games, whether we're winless or whether we're gonna
- 8:15Speaker 1: win eight games. I'm giving everything I have and you
- 8:18Speaker 1: taking that away from me. And he was pissed off,
- 8:20Speaker 1: and I think the respect around the league even went up.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And I've been saying this over and over and over again.
- 8:29Speaker 1: They were gonna get two first round picks. I did
- 8:32Speaker 1: not understand when people like I don't think they're gonna
- 8:34Speaker 1: get the Micah Hall. I'd argue right now, they got more.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Now both teams have picks in twenty twenty seven. I
- 8:42Speaker 1: think the Cowboys traded one of them. It's gonna be
- 8:44Speaker 1: the higher version that's gonna go to the Jets for
- 8:47Speaker 1: Quinn Williams, so they might end up with the Packers pick.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But the Cowboys got picked twenty this year for Micah Parsons,
- 8:54Speaker 1: and let's be real, they are lucky as shit to
- 8:56Speaker 1: have that pick. If Micah doesn't get injured, if they
- 8:59Speaker 1: don't imply in that playoff game, that picks like twenty
- 9:02Speaker 1: four to twenty five, Hell could be twenty eight, twenty nine.
- 9:05Speaker 1: The Raiders just got pick fourteen in two months pick fourteen.
- 9:10Speaker 1: If you were a betman, you'd say the Packers and
- 9:12Speaker 1: the Ravens more than likely will have similar seasons next year.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I can see both their picks being in the middle
- 9:17Speaker 1: of twenty of the twenties. But you would rather have
- 9:21Speaker 1: pick one and fourteen than you rather than pick seven
- 9:25Speaker 1: and eight. I mean getting the fourteenth overall pick, when
- 9:28Speaker 1: you have the number one pick and also the top
- 9:30Speaker 1: pick in every round is a very very powerful thing.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I think Warren Sharp tweeted this out. He's the analytic
- 9:36Speaker 1: gambling guy. This is the most draft capital a team
- 9:40Speaker 1: has ever had, just because of the power of that
- 9:44Speaker 1: fourteenth pick along with their top picks in every round,
- 9:47Speaker 1: and they have multiple picks in some rounds as well.
- 9:51Speaker 1: But this was there were other teams sniffing around, right
- 9:54Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, the jag some of these teams, it's
- 9:57Speaker 1: like they were not gonna get this type haul from
- 10:01Speaker 1: anyone else because all the good teams, either the Lions
- 10:05Speaker 1: or the Bears or the Niners or some of these
- 10:08Speaker 1: other teams that would be interested their picks are gonna
- 10:11Speaker 1: be in the twenties. So they got to the point,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and this is why I think this trade was announced
- 10:16Speaker 1: so far ahead of free agency, where it's like, there's
- 10:19Speaker 1: no way we could do better than this. I'm sure
- 10:21Speaker 1: some people offered a one in two two's, maybe potentially
- 10:25Speaker 1: two first round picks, but they were in the twenties. Like,
- 10:28Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than pick fourteen, even if
- 10:30Speaker 1: next year is pick thirty. I mean you have the chance.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton was once the fourteenth overall pick. That is prime,
- 10:39Speaker 1: prime real estate. So I think John Spytek deserves a
- 10:44Speaker 1: lot of credit. I do believe that they weren't just
- 10:48Speaker 1: dead set on trading Max Crosby, given what he brings
- 10:52Speaker 1: to their team on and off the field, but they
- 10:55Speaker 1: got an offer they couldn't refuse. No different when the
- 10:57Speaker 1: Chiefs traded McDuffie. I don't think there was any other
- 11:03Speaker 1: team in the league that would have thought even contemplated
- 11:06Speaker 1: for more than a second giving the Chiefs the first
- 11:08Speaker 1: round pick for Trett McDuffie. Then if you look in
- 11:11Speaker 1: the second round, you know, bad teams, if you're drafting
- 11:14Speaker 1: in the thirties, aren't gonna give up their pick thirty
- 11:17Speaker 1: for Trett McDuffie, and they give them thirty million dollars,
- 11:19Speaker 1: it's gonna be the good teams, well, their picks don't
- 11:21Speaker 1: come till like the fifties. So you could argue that
- 11:24Speaker 1: the Chiefs probably went into this okay with like there
- 11:28Speaker 1: might be a chance. The best we can do is
- 11:29Speaker 1: like pick forty nine to get rid of Trt McDuffie,
- 11:32Speaker 1: and then a couple of weeks later, they they're a
- 11:34Speaker 1: couple of weeks past the combine, they get picked twenty nine.
- 11:38Speaker 1: When John Spytech and they had the meetings at the
- 11:41Speaker 1: end of the season. Once Max causes stick like, hey
- 11:43Speaker 1: we might have to trade this guy. At the combine,
- 11:45Speaker 1: you're they probably thought, hey, what's are our goal is
- 11:48Speaker 1: going to be two first round picks. Then once you
- 11:50Speaker 1: get enough teams involved, probably gonna happen. You probably think
- 11:53Speaker 1: it's gonna be two picks in the mid to late twenties.
- 11:55Speaker 1: And then when the dust shittles, you have a pick
- 11:57Speaker 1: fourteen for a team that kind of needs everything. Is
- 12:03Speaker 1: an incredible haul. I mean it truly is. And as
- 12:07Speaker 1: someone that thought they would get two first round picks,
- 12:09Speaker 1: I never, for a million years, thought that that one
- 12:12Speaker 1: of the picks, especially the pick going into this draft,
- 12:15Speaker 1: would be this high. Now it's also an outlier situation.
- 12:19Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens had never given up a first
- 12:21Speaker 1: round pick for a player, and they historically have acquired
- 12:25Speaker 1: a lot of good veteran players, most recently Roquan Smith
- 12:29Speaker 1: when I was younger, you know, Steve Smith Senior and
- 12:33Speaker 1: Kwon Bolden. They've done it with countless players. Kalays Campbell,
- 12:37Speaker 1: but Shannon Sharp once upon a time. You know, Ozzie
- 12:41Speaker 1: Newson's big thing was play like a raven. That they
- 12:43Speaker 1: have a certain type, and Max Crosby falls right under that.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Derrick Henry falls right under that. But I think they
- 12:49Speaker 1: had to have these long conversations like this is a
- 12:52Speaker 1: bold move, this is going to be a big swing.
- 12:57Speaker 1: And I appreciate anyone in life, and this is one
- 12:59Speaker 1: of the those other things you think about teaching your
- 13:01Speaker 1: son of Like sometimes in life, most people the action
- 13:07Speaker 1: is on the edges. The reason the fruit grows at
- 13:10Speaker 1: the edge of the branch. The most sturdy part of
- 13:13Speaker 1: the tree is the middle. So you want to get
- 13:15Speaker 1: the fruit, you kind of got to climb out there
- 13:17Speaker 1: a little bit to do it. You got to put
- 13:18Speaker 1: yourself out there and listen. Just because you take big
- 13:21Speaker 1: swings doesn't guarantee anything. Chris Ballard went all in for
- 13:27Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. It blew up in his face immediately. We're
- 13:32Speaker 1: all gonna make mistakes, and I'm not trying to shit
- 13:33Speaker 1: on Chris Ballard here. He made a calculated move. It
- 13:37Speaker 1: was a calculated risk and it did not pay off.
- 13:40Speaker 1: And it is something I think clearly today, several months
- 13:44Speaker 1: away from the move, he regrets doing given the information
- 13:47Speaker 1: that he has. But that's not how life works. You
- 13:51Speaker 1: make decisions based on the information you have at the time.
- 13:55Speaker 1: You don't get to go six months in advance and go,
- 13:58Speaker 1: what's this going to look like that this could be
- 14:01Speaker 1: a disaster, This could be a problem eventually for the Ravens.
- 14:05Speaker 1: But for a team that I would say mostly has
- 14:08Speaker 1: been extremely conservative with their draft picks, been extremely conservative
- 14:12Speaker 1: with how they do business. They have notoriously let guys
- 14:15Speaker 1: walk over and over in free agency because they love
- 14:19Speaker 1: these cop picks that they get and they are draft
- 14:22Speaker 1: and developed franchise. Well, their owner put us you know
- 14:25Speaker 1: what on the table and said, you know what, John Harbaugh,
- 14:26Speaker 1: You're gone fired as coach, and something that I honestly
- 14:31Speaker 1: I thought was a pretty shocking move. But it does
- 14:34Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of given some life to this
- 14:38Speaker 1: organization of like, let's put our nuts on the table
- 14:41Speaker 1: a little bit more here, let's stop being so goddamn conservative.
- 14:45Speaker 1: We have a two time MVP winner at quarterback. We
- 14:48Speaker 1: have one of the best players in the league on
- 14:50Speaker 1: defense at Kyle Hamilton. We have one of the best
- 14:53Speaker 1: cultures in the league, in our locker room, in our facility,
- 14:57Speaker 1: where the Baltimore freaking Ravens go for it. And this
- 15:01Speaker 1: is a go for it move. And Max Crosby to me,
- 15:04Speaker 1: when you close your eyes, you go, what type team
- 15:06Speaker 1: does he feel like? He feels like a Baltimore Raven
- 15:09Speaker 1: feels like he could have been on the Pittsburgh Steelers
- 15:11Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. That that's the type player that he is.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And I commend the Ravens for making a bold move.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Now here's the thing I said when they made the
- 15:22Speaker 1: Dj Moore trade that the Bills are AFC championship or bust.
- 15:26Speaker 1: The Ravens making this trade is the same thing. And obviously,
- 15:29Speaker 1: if you make the AFC Championship at either one of
- 15:32Speaker 1: those teams not being in the Super Bowl as a disaster.
- 15:35Speaker 1: So I think both the Bills and the Ravens, who
- 15:39Speaker 1: were the betting favorites last year in August to win
- 15:41Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The Ravens didn't make the Super Bowl,
- 15:44Speaker 1: or I mean didn't make the playoffs clearly and win
- 15:46Speaker 1: eight games, and the Bills lost in the second round.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Both of them should can their coach because it was
- 15:53Speaker 1: like the expectations couldn't have been any higher, and the
- 15:55Speaker 1: Chiefs didn't make it. So I think they're both well
- 15:59Speaker 1: run organists. They both have Hall of Fame quarterbacks. But
- 16:02Speaker 1: it's now or never and these moves like you're living
- 16:06Speaker 1: in these next short windows. Why did the Rams make
- 16:10Speaker 1: their move because they've been living, you know, year to
- 16:13Speaker 1: year with Matt Stafford, so last year when they booted
- 16:16Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and went to get DeVante Adams that they're
- 16:19Speaker 1: not thinking five years from now that there's no guarantee
- 16:22Speaker 1: they're going to figure out their quarterback. There's no guarantee
- 16:24Speaker 1: McVeigh might not take a couple of years off. Like
- 16:26Speaker 1: you're living in the now, and that's the way the
- 16:29Speaker 1: NFL is like, especially when you're good, you got to
- 16:33Speaker 1: take advantage of every single year. And I think people
- 16:36Speaker 1: that have been critical of the Bills of like they
- 16:38Speaker 1: haven't been aggressive enough, you know the Ravens. That's never
- 16:41Speaker 1: been their style. And it kind of backfied this year
- 16:44Speaker 1: because they didn't feel quite as talented and they made
- 16:47Speaker 1: a massive move. There was a ton of pressure. And
- 16:50Speaker 1: this is what is cool about the NFL. You know,
- 16:52Speaker 1: Sean McVay, they have a super Bowl level mindset, and
- 16:57Speaker 1: you could argue a super Bowl level team, but if
- 16:59Speaker 1: they don't win it, Sean mcvan's, Matt Stafford have one right.
- 17:04Speaker 1: They have a ring. They're champions, So whether they win
- 17:08Speaker 1: it or not this year, you can never take that
- 17:11Speaker 1: away from now. If they win a second one, you
- 17:14Speaker 1: go from being viewed as a champion to being viewed
- 17:17Speaker 1: as a legend, to being viewed as a historic individual
- 17:22Speaker 1: in the history of this sport. The Ravens and Josh,
- 17:27Speaker 1: or the Ravens and Lamar and the Bills and Josh
- 17:30Speaker 1: are looking to just throw their hat in the ring.
- 17:32Speaker 1: In history, we've seen a lot of guys win MVPs
- 17:36Speaker 1: and never win a Super Bowl. Hell, in recent memory,
- 17:38Speaker 1: Stafford did it, Cam Newton did it. These guys had
- 17:41Speaker 1: great individual seasons. Now I think Lamar Jackson and Josh
- 17:45Speaker 1: Allen are better than those guys, But like, are you
- 17:49Speaker 1: gonna put a ring on your finger? Are you going
- 17:51Speaker 1: to get to a Super Bowl. The Ravens had an
- 17:53Speaker 1: incredible opportunity two years ago when they hosted the Chiefs
- 17:58Speaker 1: and they blew it. They shit the bed. This year,
- 18:01Speaker 1: the Bills they're playing bo freaking Knicks. You gotta win
- 18:05Speaker 1: that game, and they didn't do it. Josh had a
- 18:08Speaker 1: weird game, their defense didn't come through. Coach got fired
- 18:12Speaker 1: because of it. So I think the Bills and the Ravens,
- 18:16Speaker 1: all their chips are in the middle of the table. Well,
- 18:18Speaker 1: they play in the same conference. Well it's not like
- 18:20Speaker 1: they both can win the conference. And you would say,
- 18:22Speaker 1: historically the conferences is really good at the top. It's
- 18:26Speaker 1: going to be very difficult. But I do respect both
- 18:32Speaker 1: teams doing everything possible, even if trading all this for
- 18:37Speaker 1: a twenty eight to twenty nine year old guy that's
- 18:38Speaker 1: had some injuries. Like, I get the skepticism, but I
- 18:43Speaker 1: also can overlook that for the type guy doesn't booze.
- 18:47Speaker 1: All he does is football. All he wants to do
- 18:50Speaker 1: is win, plays his ass off, will immediately be a
- 18:53Speaker 1: plug and play guy in big games. Is Taylor made
- 18:57Speaker 1: for this stuff? And like I understand because like what
- 19:00Speaker 1: about four years from now? What about four years from now?
- 19:03Speaker 1: Who cares? What about twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.
- 19:07Speaker 1: And that's what the Baltimore Ravens kind of showed you,
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- 20:57Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, And last, but not least,
- 21:07Speaker 1: on the on the Raiders. You get these opportunities with
- 21:09Speaker 1: these picks. And I saw it when I was doing radio,
- 21:12Speaker 1: and they traded Khalil Mack and they traded to Marii Cooper.
- 21:15Speaker 1: So they traded Khalil Mack right before the regular season
- 21:19Speaker 1: started the regular season. Then they traded Amari Cooper. You know,
- 21:22Speaker 1: in the middle of the year of the Cowboys. They
- 21:24Speaker 1: had three first round picks in one draft and they
- 21:28Speaker 1: blew it right. Josh Jacobs I think was their last pick,
- 21:32Speaker 1: but they took I think David Arnett or Leatherwood and
- 21:37Speaker 1: Cleveland Ferrell. It was a disastrous draft. Part of once
- 21:42Speaker 1: you make one of these big trades, is you gotta
- 21:44Speaker 1: nail the pick, Like the Micah Parsons trade looks a
- 21:48Speaker 1: lot better if it picked twenty, they get a high
- 21:50Speaker 1: end starter. So it's easy to do these and we
- 21:54Speaker 1: constantly are evaluating these trades when the trades made, then
- 21:58Speaker 1: when the draft picks happened, and then as the draft
- 22:00Speaker 1: picks plays and how the veteran does. So it's a
- 22:04Speaker 1: fluid process. But there is a lot of pressure on
- 22:08Speaker 1: spy Deech with pick fourteen, and he has an opportunity
- 22:13Speaker 1: if he does it right, if Mendoza becomes if he
- 22:15Speaker 1: becomes Jared Goff and they get an impact player at fourteen.
- 22:19Speaker 1: They already got Bowers, you know, gent should be a
- 22:22Speaker 1: solid player. They can find other offensive linemen eventually build
- 22:26Speaker 1: up this defense. Within a couple of years, they could
- 22:28Speaker 1: be a good team. That they could be a really
- 22:31Speaker 1: really good team because they already have a couple core
- 22:33Speaker 1: pieces and it all comes down to nailing to pick fourteen,
- 22:37Speaker 1: Like do you get a Pro Bowl level guy or
- 22:39Speaker 1: you just get like, okay, starter And we'll find out.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I guess we won't know in a couple months, but
- 22:45Speaker 1: we'll know in a couple of years, which is not
- 22:47Speaker 1: the business Sieman. We'll be talking about it the whole time.
- 22:50Speaker 1: But this is the NFL's fun. Trades are fun. Did
- 22:54Speaker 1: these last you know? From DJ Moore to Trent McDuffie
- 22:58Speaker 1: to Max Crosby to hopefully Jalen Carter and aj Brown
- 23:01Speaker 1: sign me up for this stuff? Speaking of trades, potentially
- 23:06Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. When the headline came out that they had
- 23:10Speaker 1: extended Jordan Davis, I went, WHOA, because there have been
- 23:14Speaker 1: some rumors on the old interweb of you know, the
- 23:17Speaker 1: Raiders or excuse me, the Eagles, you know, are they
- 23:21Speaker 1: gonna pay forty forty five million to Jalen Carter, who
- 23:24Speaker 1: clearly is one of the most talented players in the league.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And was like, ah, I'm not quite comfortable doing that.
- 23:32Speaker 1: And then they extend Jordan Davis, and you go, would
- 23:34Speaker 1: they be better off if they're uncomfortable doing this giving
- 23:37Speaker 1: Jordan Davis and Jalx Hunt a bunch of money and
- 23:41Speaker 1: getting two players that they feel good about on and
- 23:43Speaker 1: off the field than one of the biggest wild cards
- 23:46Speaker 1: in the league. And then there have been some stories
- 23:47Speaker 1: that Jeremy Fowler, who has taught the combine super nice
- 23:50Speaker 1: guy report. They're already getting calls about Jalen Carter. Here's
- 23:54Speaker 1: what I would tell you. If you are an opposing
- 23:58Speaker 1: general manager and you were talking to Howie Roseman on
- 24:02Speaker 1: the phone about Jalen Carter, hang up the phone. You
- 24:07Speaker 1: should not be interested in acquiring Jalen Carter, because you
- 24:12Speaker 1: tell me, it's one thing if you can't afford a player.
- 24:15Speaker 1: That's why Khalil Mack was traded. Once upon a time.
- 24:17Speaker 1: The Raiders did not have the financial wherewithal to give
- 24:20Speaker 1: him the contract. The Bears did that. They couldn't give
- 24:22Speaker 1: him the signing bonus. It was a financial situation. It
- 24:26Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the player or the person.
- 24:29Speaker 1: It was one hundred percent money. Well, I know money's
- 24:33Speaker 1: not an issue with the Eagles. Their owner fucking gives
- 24:35Speaker 1: it out like it's grown on trees. So you go,
- 24:39Speaker 1: is Howie not into sweet defensive linemen? That's definitely not
- 24:43Speaker 1: the case. Never forget he felt to nine for a reason.
- 24:47Speaker 1: He was the best player in his draft by a
- 24:48Speaker 1: country model. We've seen him when he's healthy on the field.
- 24:51Speaker 1: He is a dominant NFL player, So why wouldn't they
- 24:55Speaker 1: resign him run. If they do, you have Big Tom,
- 25:01Speaker 1: you have four or five Georgia defenders on your team
- 25:05Speaker 1: that played with him in college. Because if you don't,
- 25:09Speaker 1: you should not be interested. It's really that simple. And
- 25:12Speaker 1: if Howie is able to unload Jalen Carter for a Hall,
- 25:17Speaker 1: he is, He's truly one of the great general managers
- 25:20Speaker 1: in the history of league. And I get it, talent
- 25:22Speaker 1: Trump's all, but these teams, I just think most of
- 25:27Speaker 1: these teams would have no shot with the infrastructure to
- 25:30Speaker 1: handle what they'd be getting in business with, especially given
- 25:34Speaker 1: that part of trading for him, which would not be cheap,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you know, in terms of draft capital, would then force
- 25:41Speaker 1: you to give him a historic NFL contract. So I
- 25:48Speaker 1: just think that some of these teams, if he's able
- 25:50Speaker 1: to offload him, that should tell you everything you need
- 25:54Speaker 1: to know. It really should. I mean, I mean, look
- 25:58Speaker 1: look at what the Eagles do when you're good. They
- 26:02Speaker 1: retain you meet Obviously, if they draft you Lane Johnson, Kelsey,
- 26:08Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, you know, Jordan Davis, they will Quinn and
- 26:12Speaker 1: Mitchell and Cooper dejen will both get big contracts if
- 26:16Speaker 1: they sign you as a free agent, and then you're
- 26:18Speaker 1: sweet like the Linebackers Act. Bond immediately give you a
- 26:22Speaker 1: sweet extension, Saquon Barkley, give you throw more money at
- 26:26Speaker 1: you as a thank you. They take care of their
- 26:28Speaker 1: guys that ball. So if they are open to trading
- 26:32Speaker 1: you and your bawling man red flag some stories coming
- 26:40Speaker 1: out right now because Travis Kelsey is a free agent
- 26:42Speaker 1: for the first time, a true free agent, like going
- 26:45Speaker 1: to free agency in his career, that he is going
- 26:49Speaker 1: to talk to multiple teams. And I talked to Colin
- 26:52Speaker 1: about this. The NFL is very difficult. It's a salary
- 26:58Speaker 1: cap league. Even when you have legendary players like Ronnie
- 27:01Speaker 1: Lott did not finish his career on the Joe Montana,
- 27:05Speaker 1: Tom Brady, like Peyton Manning was cut the NFL. The
- 27:11Speaker 1: Seattle lob led by Sherman in that crew are still
- 27:14Speaker 1: bitter about the way it all ended, like guys, welcome
- 27:17Speaker 1: to the NFL. Like that's just kind of the way
- 27:19Speaker 1: it goes. Most people do not go out like John Elway,
- 27:23Speaker 1: you know, on the stage winning his back to back
- 27:26Speaker 1: Super Bowl and retire. That's not usually the way it works.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Usually people play on another team. That's the way sports work.
- 27:33Speaker 1: It's very very rare for a guy to just run
- 27:36Speaker 1: it out. Michael Jordan played on the Wizards, So Travis
- 27:41Speaker 1: is not only gonna get his number retired one day
- 27:44Speaker 1: in Kansas City, he along with Mahomes and Andy Reid
- 27:48Speaker 1: and Chris Jones, like these guys are gonna get like statues.
- 27:52Speaker 1: He's one of the most legendary figures on the field
- 27:56Speaker 1: in the prime of his career, in the history of
- 27:58Speaker 1: the league. I think he's the greatest pass catching tight
- 28:02Speaker 1: end I've ever seen and big game player. He's just
- 28:06Speaker 1: he's the ultimate winner. But there comes a point we
- 28:09Speaker 1: saw this. It's different because Cam hasn't had the same
- 28:12Speaker 1: level of success, but Cam Jordan missed two games and
- 28:15Speaker 1: fifteen years for the New Orleans Saints, two games and
- 28:18Speaker 1: fifteen years. He's given him everything he's had on and
- 28:21Speaker 1: off the field from a leadership standpoint, team captain standpoint,
- 28:24Speaker 1: production standpoint. Comes a point in time like listen, we
- 28:28Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've done, but we got to move in
- 28:30Speaker 1: a different direction. And I think the Chiefs it's one
- 28:32Speaker 1: of those like listen, Travis, here's our number, which is
- 28:37Speaker 1: gonna sound like a you know, a slight to you,
- 28:41Speaker 1: right three four five million dollars, which we basically know
- 28:45Speaker 1: you're gonna say no to. So essentially what you do
- 28:49Speaker 1: is like you almost don't even offer him a contract.
- 28:52Speaker 1: And I do think that Travis. One team that makes
- 28:55Speaker 1: a ton of if I was a betting man right now,
- 28:57Speaker 1: a team that I'd be stunned if he not only
- 28:59Speaker 1: is you know, there was a story today that at
- 29:02Speaker 1: the start of free agency, or the tampering period, in
- 29:05Speaker 1: the middle of Monday, you are allowed to have five
- 29:09Speaker 1: zooms because before you could just talk to the agent
- 29:11Speaker 1: and negotiate the contract, but you couldn't talk to the
- 29:13Speaker 1: player until the free agency officially started a couple of
- 29:18Speaker 1: days later. You're allowed to do up to five total
- 29:21Speaker 1: zooms with players, so you can get your head coach,
- 29:25Speaker 1: your GM, your coordinators, and zoom a guy, almost like
- 29:29Speaker 1: a pitch meeting like you would do in college. One
- 29:32Speaker 1: team to me that makes a ton of sense is
- 29:35Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They have a young corps of
- 29:38Speaker 1: offensive guys quarterback, wide receiver, running back. You bring in
- 29:43Speaker 1: a guy with pelts on the wall rings on his
- 29:45Speaker 1: finger who knows the offensive coordinator. Naggi has known this
- 29:50Speaker 1: guy since he was drafted and then spent the last
- 29:53Speaker 1: however many years around him, you know, winning these Super Bowls.
- 29:57Speaker 1: So the coordinator knows him who's calling the offense. The
- 30:00Speaker 1: head coach really really values championship mentality, championship habits. Well,
- 30:06Speaker 1: one thing about Kelsey is a fantastic practice player. To me,
- 30:09Speaker 1: if you're the Giants, like, is it worth overpaying? Now,
- 30:12Speaker 1: it's a little risky for Kelsey, right, You're going to
- 30:15Speaker 1: a team that is not guaranteed to be good next year,
- 30:18Speaker 1: especially if there are talented teams like playoff contenders or
- 30:24Speaker 1: teams that are locked to be in the playoffs that
- 30:25Speaker 1: are interested in your services. Like what if the Chargers
- 30:28Speaker 1: call and you're like, hey, I could live in LA,
- 30:30Speaker 1: play at golf, play for hardball. But I do think
- 30:34Speaker 1: New York, especially a factor in Taylor, has an operation there.
- 30:37Speaker 1: I think she lives there. Technically, when you have a
- 30:40Speaker 1: jet as big as hers you can, it's like I
- 30:43Speaker 1: just drove two hours somewhere. That'd be the equivalent of
- 30:46Speaker 1: me flying from Scottsdale to Dallas. So it's like when
- 30:50Speaker 1: you have jets, you driving three or four hours is
- 30:54Speaker 1: no different than me hopping in the planet, going across
- 30:55Speaker 1: the country, Like we're operating at different levels and we're
- 31:00Speaker 1: not caring about the fake tree planning thing that Kawhi
- 31:03Speaker 1: invested in. We're just hopping in that jet and doing
- 31:05Speaker 1: what other fuck we want to do. And I think
- 31:09Speaker 1: that Travis and the New York Giants make a lot
- 31:11Speaker 1: of sense. Now. I do wonder if some of the
- 31:14Speaker 1: good teams would be interested, but usually the good teams
- 31:17Speaker 1: you don't have as much money to deal with. There
- 31:19Speaker 1: are price points on how much you can spend. Some
- 31:22Speaker 1: of the teams with a lot of cap space, even
- 31:24Speaker 1: like a Seattle and it's like, are you gonna give
- 31:27Speaker 1: Travis Kelce two years twenty million dollars or something? Probably not.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Would Travis want to go live in Seattle? A little doubtful.
- 31:34Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, it's kind of a celebrity.
- 31:36Speaker 1: He's kind of like a you know, famous NBA players.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Like the market kind of matters. That's where I think
- 31:41Speaker 1: the Giants make a ton of sense. And if I
- 31:44Speaker 1: was a betting man, I have no inside information, I
- 31:46Speaker 1: would say, if Travis Kelce is not a chief, which
- 31:49Speaker 1: I kind of don't expect him to be a chief,
- 31:51Speaker 1: I would expect him to be on the New York Giants,
- 31:53Speaker 1: and I also listen. It's not like Veach or Andy
- 31:55Speaker 1: would ask advice for me. I just think it's time,
- 31:58Speaker 1: and that's sometimes just time to move on. And it's hard,
- 32:02Speaker 1: it's not easy, but it's when you get to the point,
- 32:06Speaker 1: like you have to make tough financial decisions, and this
- 32:09Speaker 1: is a tough financial decision given that his play is
- 32:13Speaker 1: not quite the same. And I also think sometimes with
- 32:15Speaker 1: an older player, when you go somewhere new, it's no
- 32:20Speaker 1: different than an individual like myself or yourself listening to this,
- 32:24Speaker 1: you can get kind of stuck in a rut. Even
- 32:27Speaker 1: if you're having a lot of success in a job
- 32:29Speaker 1: and a profession, it life can become kind of monotonous.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Right you ever change a job, get a new role,
- 32:38Speaker 1: it kind of sparks a fire of just creativity, of passion,
- 32:42Speaker 1: of just like ambition. I don't even know how to
- 32:46Speaker 1: quite describe it, but there's like an edge brought back
- 32:49Speaker 1: to you that sometimes can leave you after a while.
- 32:52Speaker 1: And I think it's no different with players, especially older
- 32:55Speaker 1: players that get to go to a new spot, it's
- 32:57Speaker 1: like hell yeah, almost like I get to prove people
- 33:00Speaker 1: wrong all over again, And if I was on Travis's side,
- 33:06Speaker 1: I'd be like, now, we got to be careful about
- 33:09Speaker 1: where we pick. I wouldn't just go play for the
- 33:10Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals or Seattle you know, not the Seattle Seahawks,
- 33:14Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna be very brand conscious of
- 33:17Speaker 1: putting him, Like he's not gonna play for the Minnesota Vikings. Right,
- 33:20Speaker 1: there are certain markets, is like, he ain't going there?
- 33:22Speaker 1: Would he go to the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants,
- 33:25Speaker 1: like you can kind of see there'd be some spots
- 33:27Speaker 1: like I could see that. I don't picture him going
- 33:30Speaker 1: to like the Atlanta Falcons, you know, and these are
- 33:33Speaker 1: no shots at any of these individual teams. But we
- 33:35Speaker 1: just got to be real. I mean, there's probably a
- 33:37Speaker 1: small small list of organizations that he would even entertain,
- 33:43Speaker 1: you know, playing it and listen, he's you know, if
- 33:45Speaker 1: you're just listing the free agents, he's not one of
- 33:49Speaker 1: the top guys. And this is not some class that
- 33:51Speaker 1: is great, right, Who's the best free agent in this class?
- 33:55Speaker 1: Tyler Lindenmom, I saw some lists with Daniel Jones, like
- 33:59Speaker 1: a if Daniel Jones a top five free agent in
- 34:03Speaker 1: a given class, it's a bad class. It is a
- 34:05Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker excellent end of the season. Like he's had
- 34:10Speaker 1: a meh career. You know when I see some of
- 34:13Speaker 1: these people like you're gonna give him thirteen fourteen million
- 34:16Speaker 1: dollars a year? Pretty risky, It's pretty risky. Now, maybe
- 34:19Speaker 1: he's gotten over the hump and he's gonna be a
- 34:21Speaker 1: good player for the next several years. But there were
- 34:23Speaker 1: some years you watch Kenneth Walker, You're like, this is
- 34:25Speaker 1: the guy that I loved in Michigan State. This is
- 34:27Speaker 1: that guy. What's going on here? Can I tell you
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- 35:46Speaker 1: We're all listen. Who our parents are and when we're
- 35:51Speaker 1: born is clearly out of our control. But there has
- 35:54Speaker 1: never ever been a better time to play in the
- 35:58Speaker 1: NFL forever, even like ten years ago. It's like, God,
- 36:02Speaker 1: you know, the NFL might be more popular, but look
- 36:05Speaker 1: how much more of these basketball and baseball players make.
- 36:09Speaker 1: And obviously you know we got Kyler Kyle Tucker making
- 36:12Speaker 1: sixty million dollars a year with player options after year two,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and the NBA money is just funny money. Now, granted,
- 36:20Speaker 1: there are only twelve guys on a roster, and only
- 36:23Speaker 1: five guys on the court, and really only two guys
- 36:25Speaker 1: on a team that matter. And if you're an individual
- 36:27Speaker 1: that does matter, your level of importance is such a
- 36:33Speaker 1: outweigh so many other guys on the roster that you
- 36:36Speaker 1: make an absorbited amount of money forever. It's like these
- 36:40Speaker 1: NFL guys are way underpaid compared to these other guys.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Now we're gonna see some of these quarterbacks over the
- 36:45Speaker 1: life of their career make four or five hundred, six
- 36:48Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Right. Derek Carr, who who knows if
- 36:52Speaker 1: he's gonna unretire and come out, made two hundred million
- 36:54Speaker 1: dollars playing quarterback in the NFL two hundred million dollars.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins made over three hundred million dollars. Now, they
- 37:01Speaker 1: were the quarterbacks, But what about the other players. Khalil
- 37:04Speaker 1: Mack just got a one year, eighteen million dollar contract
- 37:07Speaker 1: for the Chargers. So I was like, you know what,
- 37:09Speaker 1: how about Khalil Mack made in his NFL career. I
- 37:14Speaker 1: would have guessed like one hundred and fifty million dollars
- 37:16Speaker 1: and I googled it, like, what did JJ Watt make
- 37:18Speaker 1: in his career? Because Hall of Fame level guy, great
- 37:21Speaker 1: player signed a pretty big contract at the end of
- 37:22Speaker 1: his career with the Cardinals. JJ Watt made one hundred
- 37:25Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars, which, don't get me wrong, is
- 37:28Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money. Khalil mack at the end
- 37:33Speaker 1: of this year, and listen, if he stays healthy, he's
- 37:35Speaker 1: gonna get another contract. At the end of this year,
- 37:37Speaker 1: will have made almost two hundred and twenty million dollars. Now, granted,
- 37:42Speaker 1: he's played in Illinois, and he's played in California, and
- 37:45Speaker 1: he's played at California again, like, he's played nine texts,
- 37:48Speaker 1: so it's not like he's pocketed all this money. But
- 37:51Speaker 1: he's made a lot of money playing defensive end and
- 37:54Speaker 1: pass rusher in the NFL, and these guys now at
- 37:57Speaker 1: these premium positions pass rushers. Max Crosby, when it's all
- 38:01Speaker 1: said and done, he was a late round pick. So
- 38:04Speaker 1: those first several years he didn't make any money. But
- 38:06Speaker 1: he's twenty eight years old right now. For example, Khalil's
- 38:08Speaker 1: thirty five. If you assume that Max Crosby can maintain
- 38:11Speaker 1: a high level play till he's Khalil's age, he'll make
- 38:14Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars. So the timing of
- 38:18Speaker 1: being a good player Khalil Mack pretty sure is a
- 38:21Speaker 1: little off the cuff here. I didn't do my research
- 38:25Speaker 1: on this one. I don't think he's ever won a
- 38:26Speaker 1: playoff game. Didn't obviously didn't win one with the Raiders,
- 38:31Speaker 1: the weird Derek got hurt. They lost, win a couple
- 38:34Speaker 1: times in Chicago. They never won one, right the one
- 38:37Speaker 1: year the dwink and then a couple years later they
- 38:39Speaker 1: were an eight to eight team and lost. And in
- 38:42Speaker 1: his Chargers career they have not won a playoff game.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Because Herbert, it's right. It's one of the main talking points.
- 38:49Speaker 1: He's been terrible in the playoffs. They haven't done anything. Well,
- 38:53Speaker 1: you look at Khalil Mack, you go, that's incredible. Now, granted,
- 38:58Speaker 1: football lots out of it. Listen, Max Crosby's a winning player.
- 39:01Speaker 1: It's not his fault that he's played with a bunch
- 39:03Speaker 1: of scrubs. You know, a lots out of here. This
- 39:05Speaker 1: isn't basketball where you can be Lebron James even you're
- 39:09Speaker 1: playing with scrubs in the prime of your career. You're
- 39:11Speaker 1: gonna your team's gonna win fifty games. But I just
- 39:15Speaker 1: some of the money getting thrown around, and you're gonna
- 39:17Speaker 1: see this like the center. Historically, getting a guard center
- 39:22Speaker 1: you wouldn't unless they were like an all time great player,
- 39:25Speaker 1: you wouldn't give a huge contract to because it was
- 39:27Speaker 1: easy to find those guys. You could always find a Kelsey,
- 39:31Speaker 1: he's best case scenario. But a guy like that in
- 39:33Speaker 1: the fifth round, a good guard in the sixth, a random,
- 39:37Speaker 1: you know, seven year starter in the fourth. That has
- 39:41Speaker 1: become a lot more difficult with the spread offenses in college,
- 39:45Speaker 1: with the transfer portal, it is much more difficult to
- 39:48Speaker 1: find guards and centers who are going to translate to
- 39:51Speaker 1: the NFL, which I think has led to a lot
- 39:54Speaker 1: of guys, once they established their decent NFL players getting
- 39:57Speaker 1: overpaid in free agency. I mean, last year, the forty
- 40:00Speaker 1: nine ers let Aaron Banks, the guard from Notre Dame,
- 40:04Speaker 1: who had been you know, he had started the whole time.
- 40:07Speaker 1: I think he was pretty marginal at best, get a
- 40:09Speaker 1: big contract from the Packers. I was like, God, that's
- 40:12Speaker 1: that's pretty bold. And I think a year in they
- 40:14Speaker 1: clearly regret that deal. So, but you got to be aggressive,
- 40:19Speaker 1: and that's part of free agencies. You typically have to
- 40:21Speaker 1: pay a tax, right, a premium to acquire a player
- 40:27Speaker 1: in free agency. This is back to the Crosby thing. Well,
- 40:31Speaker 1: why do you have to do that because typically you
- 40:32Speaker 1: have multiple teams bidding on a guy services Right, if
- 40:37Speaker 1: I said, hey, is the tenth pick in the draft,
- 40:39Speaker 1: and whoever has the tenth pick, the eleventh pick, and
- 40:42Speaker 1: the twelfth pick all have access to that tenth pick,
- 40:47Speaker 1: and whoever wants an individual player can get the tenth pick.
- 40:51Speaker 1: They just have to give up other ones of their
- 40:53Speaker 1: picks in the draft. Well, teams would get aggressive and
- 40:57Speaker 1: be like, hey, we'll give we really want this guy ten.
- 40:59Speaker 1: We'll willing to give up our fourth round pick to
- 41:01Speaker 1: make sure we get him at ten if we have
- 41:04Speaker 1: to bid against these other two teams because we all
- 41:06Speaker 1: get this slot. But when you just have to pick
- 41:09Speaker 1: and you don't have to bid against anybody, you can
- 41:11Speaker 1: just pick wherever you want. It's no different when you're
- 41:13Speaker 1: negotiating with the guy and extending him early on your team. Well,
- 41:19Speaker 1: some guys have the balls and the nutsack and the
- 41:23Speaker 1: agent to kind of convince him like, hold out for
- 41:25Speaker 1: a couple more years, we can get you the biggest
- 41:27Speaker 1: contract in the history league or the team throws Hey listen, yeah,
- 41:32Speaker 1: that could go that way, or in the middle of
- 41:35Speaker 1: the season you could shatter a limb. Never be the same,
- 41:39Speaker 1: never play in the NFL again. I'm currently offering you
- 41:42Speaker 1: seventy eight million dollars guaranteed and total value of a
- 41:46Speaker 1: contract worth one hundred and thirty million dollars. And if
- 41:49Speaker 1: things go well, more likely you will see every penny
- 41:52Speaker 1: of this contract, or we'll negotiate in a couple of
- 41:55Speaker 1: years and extend the thing again. So listen, I know
- 41:59Speaker 1: you're a third on pick. I know you've banked two
- 42:01Speaker 1: and a half million dollars in your career. We're offering
- 42:03Speaker 1: you close to eighty million dollars the moment you put
- 42:06Speaker 1: pen to paper. So if you if you got this,
- 42:08Speaker 1: if you got the stones to hold out a couple
- 42:10Speaker 1: of years to maybe make that number be one hundred
- 42:13Speaker 1: and five, you got balls, kid. But if you want
- 42:18Speaker 1: to do business, We're willing to do business right now
- 42:20Speaker 1: and make you the richest man in the history of
- 42:22Speaker 1: your family and a guy that you know set yourself
- 42:28Speaker 1: up and your kids up for life, which I always
- 42:30Speaker 1: push back against now having a child. You know, it's
- 42:33Speaker 1: not like my dad left me a big pot of gold.
- 42:36Speaker 1: But if he did, like let's just say my dad
- 42:38Speaker 1: had left been some super rich guy, it just left
- 42:40Speaker 1: me fifty million dollars when he died. Would I be
- 42:43Speaker 1: doing this right now? Would I be working on a
- 42:47Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, well my eight week goals? Inside my my
- 42:51Speaker 1: wife's just hanging out, like eating some snacks, watched TV.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Or would I be in there with them? So I
- 42:56Speaker 1: never quite understand of like this generational wealth to give
- 42:59Speaker 1: my you're just gonna give your kids a bunch of
- 43:01Speaker 1: free money. It's always it's like a little pet peeve
- 43:03Speaker 1: of mine because everyone celebrates it on social media, like
- 43:06Speaker 1: isn't part of it? But then they also like crushing nepotism.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Don't we want to teach our family members, our our children,
- 43:15Speaker 1: like the proper way to you know, be ambitious, to
- 43:19Speaker 1: go your own path. You just give people free money? Fuck,
- 43:21Speaker 1: why are you doing anything? I've never quite understood that.
- 43:24Speaker 1: But when you're making this much money, it's like you
- 43:27Speaker 1: can spend it all in a lifetime, so you're gonna
- 43:29Speaker 1: give a bunch of your kids, and if you have
- 43:30Speaker 1: pretty good financial advisors and the market keeps ripping over
- 43:33Speaker 1: the course of the next twenty thirty years, you're gonna make
- 43:36Speaker 1: that decent amount of money, which is a lot of money,
- 43:39Speaker 1: into a lot more money, but fascinating times. It's one
- 43:44Speaker 1: thing that this has always stood out to me because
- 43:46Speaker 1: the media, who in this weird way like hates business
- 43:50Speaker 1: right like politically, like they're on the side very anti business,
- 43:53Speaker 1: anti big money people. Yet anytime that an athlete makes
- 43:58Speaker 1: like some huge deals, like generational wealth for this guy
- 44:01Speaker 1: and his family, So you're just telling me, like his
- 44:03Speaker 1: great grandkids aren't gonna have to do dick, Like there's
- 44:06Speaker 1: what are they gonna contribute to society just sitting at
- 44:09Speaker 1: home cashing their dividends? You know? Like is that is
- 44:12Speaker 1: that good? Uh? That's just random rant, but it's something
- 44:16Speaker 1: that is really kind of I've noticed this for a
- 44:19Speaker 1: long time. It's always stuck out to me, and I've
- 44:21Speaker 1: always wondered, Uh, listen, I I wouldn't have turned down
- 44:24Speaker 1: if my dad would have been like, you know before
- 44:27Speaker 1: before I passed you. I just want to let you know,
- 44:30Speaker 1: got seventy five million dollars, uh with with Billy at
- 44:34Speaker 1: Wells Fargo. So just you go to you go tomorrow
- 44:37Speaker 1: and it's all yours. I would have been like, damn, thanks,
- 44:41Speaker 1: but I'll promise this. That probably wouldn't have done much since, right,
- 44:44Speaker 1: I wouldn't some of these guys that have made just
- 44:47Speaker 1: I mean, especially in basketball or baseball, like what are
- 44:50Speaker 1: they gonna do with it all? What are their children
- 44:52Speaker 1: gonna do? Listen, I've seen Tom talk about this. You know,
- 44:56Speaker 1: Tom clearly grew up like his dad was a successful businessman,
- 44:59Speaker 1: but I don't. I think he was multi millionaire as
- 45:02Speaker 1: a kid. It's like, you know, it's a challenge raising
- 45:05Speaker 1: my children, try to teach them to kind of be
- 45:07Speaker 1: normal humans in society when they just all they know
- 45:10Speaker 1: is like they don't know what Southwest or American Airlines is.
- 45:15Speaker 1: That they won't know what that is. Think about that
- 45:18Speaker 1: you just don't know what American Airlines is. It'll humble you.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Right when I was flying back from the combine and
- 45:26Speaker 1: I missed my flight and had to like change the
- 45:29Speaker 1: next flight, and they threw me on the back of
- 45:32Speaker 1: the bird. I'm in the middle, middle seat with two
- 45:36Speaker 1: smelly kind of one guy's kind of fat. I'm like,
- 45:39Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm hungover, i haven't slept. But sometimes
- 45:43Speaker 1: you gotta just put a little shock to the system,
- 45:45Speaker 1: like John, just don't get fat and happy. Here, buddy,
- 45:48Speaker 1: this is this is it baby, NFL free agency, it's here.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Let's go the volume.