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The Hail Mary That Blew Up College Football and the Dumpster Fire of SEC vs LSU · The Regulars

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  Tanya, Michigan are crooks.
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  LSU are crooks. The SEC are crooks.
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  The NCAA are crooks. But thank God
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  for Paulie Martin. We're The Regulars. I'm Cody Decker. I'm Tanya
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  Ray Fox. And no matter what we say today, I just— I need everyone to
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  know I still think LeBron James is the GOAT. Let's do this, Cody.
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  He was.
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  Someone may or may not have— I'm not gonna say who. Yeah,
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  it's one of us. Could have been me, could have been Mocha. Yeah, could have
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  been any one of the tens of twenties of thousands of people that are watching
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  our show live in our studio. But someone
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  here took a bong rip. No idea who could have been. I guess we'll
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  find out. You guys need to tune in to find that out. But here's the
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  deal. Um, Tanya, I feel good about our cold
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  open because holy shit, I, I know we
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  normally shoot the shit when we start the show. How was your weekend? How was
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  your weekend? Yada yada yada. NFL back this week.
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  You know, you're not— that's not the vibe for you. I'm not gonna
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  lie to you. Yeah, I, um, I'm not feeling great.
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  No, it's not that I'm not feeling great. It's actually one of the few times
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  that I actually need you. Because there were— no, no, no.
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  A few times. No, no. Well, I always need you, but like, this is the
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  time where I need you because I don't understand. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I feel like you generally understand things and you don't need me to
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  explain them to you. No. This particular situation, I got to freely admit, I've,
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  I've looked at it backwards, forwards. I've read every statute that
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  I can find in the law as far as I can understand. And I have
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  to say, everything that's taking place with the NCAA, LSU, in the
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  SEC, legitimately has gotten so convoluted
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  and nonsensical. Yeah, that I don't know what, what is up,
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  what is down. I feel like I'm being gaslit, and I feel like I'm,
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  I'm insane. Because here's the thing, we talked about this
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  on Friday, I am like, actually, I hate the fact that I'm borderline
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  signing with Lane Kiffin considering the situation. We all— we don't like that. Neither one
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  of us is happy with that. Fucking despise it. But also Fuck
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  the NCAA and definitely fuck the SEC. But this court
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  injunction to the amendment that the SEC is trying to put in to
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  the standing on whatever fucking ground fucking
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  LSU and Lane Kiffin standing on, which is equally weird
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  to me at this point. I have to say, dude,
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  I don't know who's right, but I fucking hate everyone.
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  Yeah, well, it's interesting because before we like get into the show, I think
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  there's like this overarching vibe to the show that I actually
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  saw Pablo Torre talk about on someone else's podcast today in a clip on TikTok
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  where he was saying like the, the sports fandom is not this like
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  inelastic, like sort of renewable resource.
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  Yeah. And that like between private equity and these decisions that
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  are happening and pushing fans too far and all the ways that
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  we've talked about and we'll continue to that we are potentially
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  approaching a, like, bubble bursting with the only final bit of, of,
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  like, zeitgeist we have left. This is the last bit of,
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  like, of universal sort
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  of we all sit down and watch and experience something live that we have left.
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  And, you know, owners and these leagues
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  are— and, you know, the NCAA and all of these institutions
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  are— feel like they're too big to fail. And if, if millennials know nothing
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  else. We know that there is no industry that is
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  too big to fail. There isn't one, even sports. And so part
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  of that feels like that whole thing feels— and it was after I'd built our
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  rundown and I watched that, and I'm like, that's kind of the vibe of our
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  show today. It's like, I think, I think we're getting to that place
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  where we might be, we might be near a bubble bursting.
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  It's actually funny you say that. I'm, I'm actually feeling this in a lot
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  of aspects, not just the NCAA, because I agree with you on the NCAA front.
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  It really does feel like a bubble. This is in regards to sports But no,
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  I'm glad you're saying that because here's where like my big red flags
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  were happening. It's not even the NCAA. They're just kind of like an added— like,
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  like, like if we're making a wonderful dish right
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  now, it's just an ingredient. Yeah. Where I'm really getting this
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  more than anywhere else has been the NBA and the Major
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  League Baseball, basically team evaluations and what's been
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  taking place as of late. Like teams that have been tanked and destroyed, like the
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  Anaheim Angels, who all of a sudden just sold for $4 billion.
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  $4 billion. It was bought for $125 million in
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  2003. $4 billion for the worst
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  team in Major League Baseball. That's bubble level stuff. I really feel
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  like the valuation is not matching the revenue. And like,
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  there's no— to Pablo's point, there's no other
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  industry where you can get that level of valuation for
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  that level of revenue. And we're watching it with the NBA, especially with the Mark
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  Walter investigation because everything that's coming out of that— like, he bought the Lakers
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  for $10 billion, which was outrageous because they were
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  just valued at $7.3 billion. And this was like 4 weeks
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  after the Boston Celtics sold for like $6.5
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  billion. It makes no sense. But they sold like 2 weeks later
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  for $10 billion, and then he flips it 1 year later for $12.5
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  billion. Like, all of this seems like the biggest
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  house of cards that has now— but here's the thing, it wasn't
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  one. And it feels like in the last 5 years very specifically,
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  it's turned into this massive shell game where it's on
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  the verge of collapse because this is all bullshit.
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  Yeah, it's all bad. Um, and we're gonna get into several aspects
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  of it, all different aspects across leagues. And, um, also like,
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  this is not to be— I don't want to be too nihilistic because like You
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  and I love sports. We're going to keep watching sports. We're going to— but like,
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  and there are ways out of this. It's— but they're
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  going to apply. It's the same way that's going to apply to everything else in
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  our country, which is a lot like a whole
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  shift in the capitalist structure. And that's what's nerve-wracking.
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  And it's crazy because I actually— correct me if I'm wrong,
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  we're both, you know, come on, listen, we're both kind of like raging liberals
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  on the left. Yeah, but it really feels like we're like hitting some
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  weird precipice. This, where like it feels like the 1980s,
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  like anti-Reaganomics,
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  anti-UK and— I'm sorry,
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  Thatcher shit. Oh, sure. It literally feels like we're in that
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  time. And I literally would watch old punk bands going crazy
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  that that was the system. And we're here again.
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  Oh, yeah. Listen, if we don't pay attention to our history,
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  we're bound to repeat it. And we don't. We never fucking do. My God.
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  So yeah, we're going to actually kick things off with something that like,
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  I don't know, it should be lighter compared to some of what we've been talking
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  about here. It actually is lighter, but it's also kind of connected in the— it
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  is connected. And it's, it's the whole Western
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  Michigan-Michigan outcome. The latest news coming out of this story
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  in which Michigan was awarded an extra second
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  on a game that was apparently over. They used that second to throw a Hail
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  Mary, win the game. Western Michigan had like essentially celebrated
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  the win and then they had it ripped out from underneath them.
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  Obviously, the Big Ten puts out this video where they say, okay,
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  this is confirmation that this is where the officials found the extra
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  second. And the MAC is now appealing that, says the replay
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  error did still occur. Yeah. So I'll say what the MAC is saying
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  and then we're going to get into it. After further study and investigation, it is
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  now evident that replay protocol was not properly followed in determining
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  whether time remained on the game clock at the conclusion of the Western Michigan versus
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  Michigan football game. Said Steinbrecher in a brief statement, head of
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  the MAC. Though the angles of the play that were shown on NBC's broadcast showed
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  the clock hitting zero when the ball was touched, officials reviewing the play at the
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  Big Ten's replay center outside Chicago used an angle of the play not shown on
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  the broadcast that had no clock bug visible on the screen. The difference was fractions
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  of a second. The Hawkeye replay system used by the Big Ten has a
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  game clock display that is synced with in-stadium clocks. A couple of hours after Saturday
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  night's game, the Big Ten released video and audio from the replay center of officials
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  working through the play. We've all seen it. On Sunday,
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  Mike Pereira, the Fox rules expert, told The Athletic that college
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  replay officials are advised to use angles of a play with a game clock embedded
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  and visible when reviewing whether time should be put back on the
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  clock at the end of the half to avoid the perception of impropriety that could
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  come from making a ruling that contradicts what viewers are seeing on television. So he's
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  saying this was a— this was a fuck up, like,
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  across the board. Yes, we know it's a fuck up across the board. Yes.
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  Like, We've watched a lot of football, a lot
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  of sports, a lot. And I made a video about this in which I,
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  I said like the idea that they even gave us a split screen where we
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  see, where we hear the, uh, the officials sort of talking
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  through everything and they show us this split screen
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  of one second was tough. My thing,
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  and I don't know if you noticed this, that I talked about was not even
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  in that Even in that video, it hits 1 second
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  and it touches the out-of-bounds player at about—
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  with about 0.3 of a second left on the clock. I mean, there's about like
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  0.7 of a second that ticked by before it even touches the out-of-bounds
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  player, which would stop the clock, which means that
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  the— that the Big Ten contended that
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  0.3 of a second that was not visible to the
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  human eye was enough to reverse that call and
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  give Michigan another shot at a Hail Mary.
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  There is— and I have— there is all of this conspiracy
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  around the idea that, that the, the game clock is different from
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  the broadcast clock. Let me clear this shit up.
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  Please do. Real quick. Please do. If there is a discrepancy between
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  the broadcast clock and the game clock, the official clock that the officials are
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  using, That is almost always noted. There's always like some
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  sort of communication between the broadcast and the officials
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  to note that so that the broadcasters are available to
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  say, we've had like, we're kind of up in the air on whether our broadcast
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  clock is off. It's almost always synced. This idea that there's like always,
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  that there's always an extra second off between— that's not a fucking thing
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  at all. Dudes in their living rooms are making this up. Yep.
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  They've never been in production, in game production jobs. 100%. Guess. Guess what?
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  I have. They've never been in these spots. I have to— I have like,
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  this is not how it fucking works at all. This never happened.
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  This was such the gaslighting. I'm glad we already used
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  the word gaslighting. I feel like it's an overused term, but it's very, very necessary
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  in this particular conversation. The fucking gaslighting on this
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  particular situation was fucking embarrassing. Like, it was truly embarrassing.
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  Um, can I just ask you a question very simply? Because I will give the
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  same, uh, I'll give my answer after you give yours. What do you
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  think happened? I think that the officials did find
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  3/10 of a second that was really there.
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  And I still think that that was breaking protocol.
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  I agree. Yeah, I think they probably
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  found the 3/10 of a second and it was in
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  the best interest of one particular conference that this took place.
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  One particular conference and one particular school that was paying the other school $1.5
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  million of being there to play the game. The school that just had Dave Portnoy
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  pay to bring that quarterback in. It's a whole— there's a ton of— there is
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  a lot of weird fucking politics and weird nonsense around
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  this. But it's to the point where it seemed very
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  beneficial for that play to be redone.
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  And the way that it was done was, frankly, I don't know what else
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  to say. I feel gaslit. I don't like being told that I'm fucking crazy.
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  For witnessing what I'm literally looking at with my own eyes. And,
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  and the thing is, there— if there— there's a lot of people who have
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  decided that 3 tenths of a second is like, that, that counts, right? Like,
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  that's what it was. I've looked at it, and, and based on the game clock
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  that they have, they manufactured that. Okay, fine. Yeah, I,
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  I'll buy that. I'll just buy that because I don't care to fucking argue it.
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  Yeah, because it doesn't change my opinion.
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  And the reality is, if they went by tenths of a second in
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  football, guess what would be on the clock? Tenths of a second. Like basketball,
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  we see in an NBA clock there are tenths left.
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  We see game-winning shots with 0.1, 0.2. Like, that's the craziest.
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  I work with Derek Fisher. 0.4 seconds, his most
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  famous thing. So if that— if tenths of a second were part of this whole
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  equation, that would be the case. It's not, because it is very
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  hard to see with the naked eye on a 100-yard football field what has
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  just happened. So we have Replay review. Okay. Now,
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  in the NFL, there is a rule that there has to be at least 2
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  seconds on the clock in order for a review like that to
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  happen. Yes, that's what needs to happen in college football after this.
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  1 second being added back on to that, like them being like, oh shit,
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  there was 1 second left, actually happens fairly frequently in college football.
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  So it— when I was watching this game because I was watching it live,
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  I'm a Michigan fan, I was watching it live. I was like, oh man,
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  they're doing the phantom 1-second thing where they're like, oh yeah, but And in
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  my head I was like, it's that classic, like, we just didn't see it live,
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  but on replay you can see there was a second. Like, fuck, I feel bad
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  for Western Michigan. They make the play. I'm like, oh my God, you give someone
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  a second chance at a Hail Mary. There's— he had overthrown it to the back
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  of the end zone. Now he's coached to throw it to the front of the
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  end zone, which is how you're supposed to do it. It's a huge advantage.
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  Like, yeah, you're not— you can't guarantee they're going to convert it, but it was
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  a huge advantage. Then I realized that there was
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  no fucking time, that the second— because everybody's acting like this has
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  never happened. 1 second kind of pops up more frequently in college football than
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  it does elsewhere. But usually you see it on the
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  replay and you're like, man, technically, yeah, I guess. Fuck, right? This one
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  wasn't that. Come on, you're a Michigan fan. You're like,
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  no, that's what I'm saying. I know you're— and you're a Michigan fan and you're
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  even fucking looking at it like, no, like, no. And this is just not the
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  fucking facts. I don't like— I'm a fan of football. I don't want to see
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  those— those kids were devastated. It wasn't cool. It was awful for them that
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  they won the MAC last year, by the way. They won their conference.
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  They were 10-4 last year. Like, this is a team that's on the up.
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  This is a really big deal. And, and it just like,
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  it all is incredibly frustrating. And the— it— there— it's
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  not going to get overturned. That doesn't happen. It's never happened. It's not going to
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  happen. I appreciate them putting in whatever the fuck they put in today, but it's
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  not going to matter. Because somebody asked me that. They were like, could it— has
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  that ever happened? No. And it's not going to. No, they cannot fuck with the
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  integrity like that. It'll ruin everything. It'll also like— there's too Now,
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  by the way, if there was ever an opportunity for it to happen, it would
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  have been before all this legalized gambling. Completely agree. It can't happen now. As of
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  right now, the integrity is already so shaky. Yeah, this would like break it.
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  This would be the straw that broke the camel's back and there would be a
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  bunch of bettors out of— oh my God, it would throw the entire gambling market
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  into fucking disarray. Yeah. And by the way, that's just the gambling market.
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  That's not even like the kind of unchecked futures market, right?
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  Who knows what the fuck that would happen? And like, it would just be a
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  disaster, which is Again, which actually affects like genuine stuff
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  like this. It actually affects the NBA and all these other,
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  other places where adjustments can be made after the fact. Adjustments to stat
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  lines have started to become scary because you're dealing with bettors and you're dealing with
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  screwing over those— that market as well. Not screwing them over,
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  but those people feel screwed, screwed over, right? Yeah.
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  So like, yeah, the,
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  the idea that 3, that even
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  a half a second— if timekeeping, when it
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  comes to the officiating of football, we have a lot of issues across every single—
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  we have all been there. You're a Raiders fan, I'm a Patriots fan. We've all
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  been sitting there being like, the refs are screwing us specifically today. Like,
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  you just feel it, you know, you know that feeling. But there's— there are a
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  lot of things in, in real time, in the— specifically in
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  football, that has gotten so fast and so skilled that are hard to spot With
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  the naked eye. Timekeeping is the most
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  important part of officiating that generally
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  does not need replay. And if it does,
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  it is— we're talking about like what's on the broadcast.
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  Yeah. This— you— it is, it is in—
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  it is inarguable that timekeeping to this
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  degree trying to micromanage it down to tenths
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  of a second is a full-on manufacturing of
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  the actual— 100%. And that's where the
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  whole gaslighting comes in. Like, you're telling me the most
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  easily manipulated thing, which is the clock, wouldn't be
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  manipulated in these things when we have this many aspects that are actually financially
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  backed for no, you know, no less for a better word, quite frankly,
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  because at the end of the day, like you just said, gambling companies are in
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  here like We, we've already passed
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  the slippery slope for me. Like, that's why I hate
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  this. That's why I'm like, a part of me is happy that it's happened,
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  but it's also like, fuck, because it's kind of exposing the entire
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  game because this is so easily manipulated, especially in something that
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  is as corrupt as NCAA college football. That split screen was nuts.
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  But they're like, look at the proof, guys. Dude. And even with the proof
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  It hit 1 second long before in that, in that very
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  slow-mo video. I mean, they slowed it down to like a frame by frame.
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  I mean, guys, it was— it hit zero. It touches
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  his finger in the slow-mo and the frame by frame slow-mo,
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  and then maybe 2, 3 tenths of a second later, it's down to zero.
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  Like, that was not the proof. That is not enough to give
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  a team a game-winning play. I couldn't agree more. If this had been
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  even a game-tying play, I'd be less mad.
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  Yeah, it was a game-winning play. No, I'm agreeing. This is— this
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  was— I'm sorry, there's no other way for me to say this. And I,
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  I, I'm not saying this because normally I would love to shit on Michigan.
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  It's just more of a thing. This is just practical. Yeah,
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  Western Michigan got fucked. Oh yeah, I don't have any other way. They won.
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  They won a game. That is, they won a game. They won.
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  It was Appalachian State. That's what we just had witnessed.
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  And Whether it was the Big Ten, whether it was Michigan,
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  whether it was NBC Sports or Fox Sports, whatever it was on, I apologize.
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  Whether it was the, the, the Hawkeye track
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  system, this was manipulated.
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  At least, listen, a system that can already easily
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  be manipulated. This is just— I hate that this
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  happened because I was always worried it would. And it— I feel
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  like it opens other people's eyes and like I, at first I was thinking,
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  you know, is this them working for the, the books because they were 26.5-point
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  favorites? Now the sportsbooks are going to lose money, whatever else.
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  But like, I looked it up and the average margin of victory over
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  like over, uh, MAC opponents or non-conference
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  opponents, like they were all favored by like 27 points. It's an at— like they
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  weren't— it wasn't even like— it was a fairly normal, um,
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  spread for like Big Ten. Hey,
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  Maria makes a very good point. At least it wasn't ESPN this time.
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  It wasn't, wasn't it? No, I mean like,
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  like what does that mean? At least it wasn't them, it was somebody else.
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  Oh, it's— well, it's always— listen, we don't like any of the other ones.
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  I know, but like, like Maria's very impressed at this one
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  juncture of the corrupt potential government involved.
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  Don't worry, ESPN was not involved. We have, uh, Monday Night
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  Football coming up, right? So don't worry, plenty of time for them to get involved.
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  But, but don't worry, because headline number 2, ESPN's plenty
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  involved because Paul Feinbaum just can't shut the hell up about this situation.
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  And then, of course, the SEC situation, which I got to say, we opened
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  the show kind of chatting about it. Yeah, Tonya, this is such a mess.
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  I don't— I don't understand it anymore. I'm going to try really hard.
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  We're going to try really hard to keep this as streamlined as possible for people
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  to understand. Do, because I felt like I understood. Yeah. And there's just been
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  so much bullshit on top of bullshit and quite frankly, also a lot of misinformation
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  around the entire situation. I don't know what up is down, down is up
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  type of situation. So we knew that the SEC— there were countersuits.
• 20:41
  The SEC is suing LSU.
• 20:44
  We talked about that in the last show. They have amended that complaint
• 20:48
  seeking authority to expel LSU from the league.
• 20:51
  Okay. So the SEC filed this complaint against LSU on
• 20:55
  Tuesday, noting the conference CEOs will meet Thursday to decide whether
• 20:59
  to terminate Louisiana State University as an SEC member institution.
• 21:02
  As part of the amended complaint, the SEC is requesting a temporary restraining
• 21:06
  order to ensure that neither LSU nor anyone working with
• 21:10
  the school or on its behalf can take any action to block
• 21:14
  or interfere with the meeting or the conference's First Amendment rights.
• 21:18
  Ahead of Thursday's meeting, the degree of support within the SEC for following
• 21:22
  through and kicking LSU out of the conference is not immediately clear. But the fact
• 21:26
  that the league has called such a meeting and done so publicly and formally in
• 21:30
  a legal complaint is an extraordinary rebuke of one of the SEC's flagship
• 21:34
  members and biggest brands. So this is the part that we're going to focus on
• 21:37
  right now, which is the SEC requesting a
• 21:41
  temporary restraining order to ensure that anyone working with the school doesn't try
• 21:45
  to block or stop the meeting. Okay. This is Trump shit.
• 21:49
  What they're doing is they were advised to create essentially a,
• 21:53
  like, straw man, right? We are going to— just
• 21:57
  so you guys know, we're taking out a restraining order so you don't try to
• 21:59
  stop us from having this meeting where we're going to kick you out— is,
• 22:02
  is full-on posturing. Okay, that can't happen.
• 22:06
  That's not a fucking— it doesn't make sense to me. That's not— they can't stop
• 22:09
  it. They don't have the power to do it. And if they did, you just
• 22:12
  have the meeting still. What do you think, LSU is going to hold you up
• 22:15
  like the goddamn mafia? What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm lost. It's— so they
• 22:19
  made up a boogeyman. This is like the whole thing, like LSU is going to
• 22:22
  try to stop us. LSU is like, where's,
• 22:25
  where's the evidence that we would try to stop this meeting? You just said that
• 22:29
  it was going to happen. What are you talking about? Secondly, the idea that they
• 22:32
  are, they are meeting to seek authority to
• 22:35
  it. So they, they are going to meet to decide before they get
• 22:40
  approval from the courts to say whether or not they can.
• 22:43
  So this is all a public
• 22:47
  relations, like posturing behavior, essentially saying, We're going to meet
• 22:51
  to do this. We're going to threaten to expel you. We're going to try to
• 22:54
  get the authority to expel you. And then we're going to wait for the courts
• 22:56
  to tell us whether we can or can't. If they tell us they can,
• 22:59
  then you are going to have the opportunity to do what we want you to
• 23:02
  do so you can stay in the SEC. And if they tell us that we
• 23:05
  can't, then at least everybody knows we made you out
• 23:09
  to be the bad guys. And now the— now the courts have stepped in and
• 23:11
  blocked us. So. Right.
• 23:15
  Can I give you my very simple interpretation
• 23:20
  of what you just said. Sure. Also, if anybody has questions in the chat,
• 23:24
  I know this is confusing.
• 23:26
  SEC makes a fake fucking
• 23:30
  injunction to the— to LSU about
• 23:34
  a meeting that doesn't really exist type of situation. It is going to happen.
• 23:38
  The meeting is going to happen. But like, the injunction to LSU is
• 23:42
  nothing other than bullshit. The restraining order
• 23:45
  is to signal to— but that doesn't make sense. What restraining
• 23:49
  order? It would be like, Kody, it'd be like if you and I were in
• 23:52
  a fight. Yeah. And I went on Instagram and I told everybody that I was
• 23:55
  getting a restraining order against you because you might try to do the podcast
• 23:59
  with me. And, and you were like, bro, what? I'm not trying to do the
• 24:02
  podcast with you. We're in a fight. Like, we'll handle it. Like, whatever. So if
• 24:05
  I preemptively just told people before I was going to do it,
• 24:09
  before I did it, that I was going to take a restraining order so that
• 24:12
  everybody would think you're the bad guy already. Yeah.
• 24:15
  In the court of public opinion, you were going to do something. LSU is already
• 24:18
  now the bad guy because the SEC took out this restraining order on LSU for
• 24:22
  something that LSU is like, what the fuck? What do we do? Yeah. Like,
• 24:24
  you— okay. And LSU knows what they did. But again, you know,
• 24:28
  and this is something that we have to get into in the second part of
• 24:31
  this conversation. LSU actually hasn't—
• 24:35
  we have— there's been no establishment here. And I'm not— I'm
• 24:39
  not like— this isn't an opinion. It's a fact. We have not established that LSU
• 24:43
  has broken any rules. I don't know what the problem is to this exact
• 24:47
  moment. Right. Has a pro player played in the NCAA hat?
• 24:51
  Did that happen in week 1? Did they play on the, on the team?
• 24:54
  Yes. Oh, that's a— wait, did they? Did those players play? I don't
• 24:58
  know. That's my new question. They're also not pro players because
• 25:02
  they never— they— I don't know what anything is at this
• 25:05
  point. So they never— they— the whole thing is that they like, they were in
• 25:09
  training. They were in training camp, right? So even the thing is,
• 25:12
  they're— the whole reason he signed them to the roster in the first place was
• 25:15
  because there's no— they're the rule allowed it.
• 25:19
  And now they're saying like, no, actually the rule doesn't. So that's what they're still
• 25:22
  deciding. But everybody has already decided LSU broke a rule and the SEC
• 25:27
  is behaving as if LSU broke a rule. But I'm assuming
• 25:30
  players decided if they did. But here's the other thing. Court said they didn't.
• 25:33
  But then they also not play last week because, because even Lane Kiffin,
• 25:36
  after the blowout win, even joked to the, to the commentator after
• 25:41
  the game, going, imagine if we had pro players. Does anybody in the chat know
• 25:44
  if, if those players like truly, if you're in the chat and you know if
• 25:47
  they played, let us know because we don't know. Because I— all I saw— no,
• 25:50
  they didn't. They did not right there. So I saw that they obviously walloped
• 25:54
  Clemson. So they walloped Clemson without the professional players.
• 25:59
  And so like this whole— so we're, we're standing on the precipice of like
• 26:03
  we have not even gotten a clear ruling from the NCAA or
• 26:07
  the courts they're using as their judge and jury to say that LSU
• 26:12
  officially broke a rule and what rule they broke. So now
• 26:17
  we have to get to the, like, narrative building
• 26:20
  around this, please, because that's, that's the whole thing. What I've
• 26:23
  learned about all of this has been around narratives, and I know these narratives have
• 26:28
  been bullshit, which is why, like, I'm actually quite annoyed because I don't
• 26:31
  like being on Lane Kiffin's side. I really don't. It's an uncomfortable place
• 26:35
  for me to be. No, I mean, it was pretty funny, like, to watch them
• 26:39
  lose to Clemson and be like, well, Dabo. Yeah.
• 26:43
  I'm sorry, I can't. Fuck you.
• 26:46
  You and Curt Schilling, dude. And then somebody like— someone put
• 26:51
  a tweet out that was like, man, these small programs like Clemson, they just can't
• 26:55
  keep like joking. Yeah. And a bunch of people got mad in the comments thinking
• 26:58
  that they were being serious. Good. And it was so funny. Everybody's like,
• 27:01
  this is the whole stupidity of the thing. So this— I'm
• 27:06
  going to— I'm going to make sure I credit the article and who wrote it.
• 27:09
  This is Matt Hayes for, for USA Today, which is really on
• 27:13
  a roll with their opinion. But this is the kind
• 27:16
  of, of narrative that's being floated that
• 27:19
  I think is confusing you so much. Talk to me. So this guy writes,
• 27:24
  ESPN loves this drama for TV ratings, but make no mistake who
• 27:28
  has the leverage in that relationship. And it's not ESPN. If ESPN decides the expulsion
• 27:32
  of LSU means the SEC has changed the dynamics of
• 27:36
  the media rights deal and they want out, The SEC will saunter over to Amazon
• 27:40
  and get more cash. The SEC controls that relationship and
• 27:43
  will tell ESPN who is part of its 16 or 15-team league.
• 27:47
  Now, there's 2 suppositions happening here that make no sense. First of all,
• 27:51
  LSU has not been expelled. Yeah, there is no legal
• 27:55
  basis yet for them to be expelled. They still don't know what rules they broke.
• 27:57
  And the SEC losing—
• 28:03
  if they expel Louisiana State University, and they
• 28:07
  are now able to like go wherever. And now they're down to 15 teams.
• 28:11
  They've lost the second biggest revenue maker
• 28:14
  in their league, which, by the way, you corrected me at the
• 28:18
  beginning of the show before the show even started, because I thought the biggest revenue
• 28:22
  maker in the SEC to me, even though they're new,
• 28:26
  Texas. Well, Texas is a huge revenue maker. I agree. Yeah.
• 28:30
  But right now, Between Alabama and LSU, it is like a
• 28:34
  crapshoot. And that's like— that blew me away. That made me go like, holy shit.
• 28:37
  Post-Nick Saban LSU, right? You're right. Post-Nick Saban LSU and
• 28:41
  Alabama. So Alabama has like— LSU
• 28:45
  has— they have had the bigger brand
• 28:48
  in the last few years purely based off the success of
• 28:52
  basically Joe Burrow directly. Well, not directly, but Joe Burrow and then Jayden
• 28:56
  Daniels sort of like whatever. Now Alabama has had a— but like since Nick Saban's
• 29:00
  retired. It's a little bit of a dip. You— all 3
• 29:04
  of those teams are top, I think, top 6 in revenue.
• 29:07
  Yeah. So the SEC still has huge revenue makers.
• 29:11
  The Big Ten is who's winning, right? The Big Ten is who's like— they're the
• 29:15
  ones who have been on top. No question. But make no mistake about it,
• 29:18
  you lose LSU,
• 29:22
  they're— ESPN, if ESPN wants out of that deal, just so we're
• 29:26
  clear, You don't just go get more money from Amazon without LSU.
• 29:30
  I don't— I don't know who the fuck this guy thinks he— I don't know
• 29:34
  what he's talking about, but that is— that is a massive
• 29:38
  fucking dip in your— in the SEC's total
• 29:42
  revenue. They are not going to be like, oh, we'll just give you more money
• 29:45
  than ESPN was giving you before without LSU.
• 29:49
  That's not happening. I agree. Then he says, that the Big
• 29:54
  Ten wouldn't want to deal with LSU, so they'd have to be independent.
• 29:58
  That's also a bold fucking claim considering the Big Ten deals
• 30:02
  with Ohio State, Michigan, who we just talked about. By the way,
• 30:05
  Michigan, this is like the 4th biggest scandal they've had in
• 30:08
  the last 12 calendar months. It actually doesn't even scratch the goddamn surface.
• 30:12
  Michigan's been a fucking disaster. Are you kidding me? And they are manipulating
• 30:16
  the entire fucking college football system to get them to win a game.
• 30:19
  I promise you they don't give a fuck about dealing with LSU. Are you
• 30:23
  kidding me? They just let in USC, who famously had all their fucking Heismans
• 30:27
  removed from them and championships. They brought in UCLA,
• 30:31
  which had the first 100 championships of all schools in the world,
• 30:34
  who fired their fucking athletic director literally last week. Like, let's be
• 30:39
  real fucking clear, if you can make the Big Ten
• 30:42
  money, LSU, the Big Ten
• 30:46
  will welcome you with open arms. Controversies be goddamned.
• 30:51
  This attempt to make Lane Kiffin the greatest
• 30:54
  villain in the history of college football is— it's— or in college sports.
• 30:58
  He doesn't need your help, by the way. But it's also like the
• 31:02
  NCAA. You know who's still coaching in the NCAA successfully,
• 31:07
  really well, in like a way that they're almost beloved?
• 31:10
  Rick Pitino. Yeah. John Calipari.
• 31:14
  These dudes have I promise you that Lane
• 31:18
  can't— like, oh my God, what are we fucking talking about
• 31:22
  anymore? Okay, I, I, I need you to think about some of the
• 31:26
  real pieces of work that have coached at Ohio
• 31:30
  State. I want you to go through the list right now. Okay,
• 31:34
  so like, you know, from Urban
• 31:37
  Meyer— Urban Meyer is all you need to say,
• 31:39
  but continue. I So we're— so we're
• 31:43
  at like, we're— this is a tiny paragraph of this dude's fucking
• 31:48
  post. I'm listening. There's a reason Texas and Oklahoma, the 2 biggest
• 31:52
  chess pieces on the expansion board, sprinted to the SEC over the Big Ten when
• 31:55
  they had the opportunity. It's the all-for-one mantra within the league.
• 31:59
  No team is bigger than any other. Okay. What? What is this?
• 32:03
  Okay. This guy has
• 32:07
  sucked and swallowed the SEC's
• 32:10
  propaganda in a way that I'm honestly like,
• 32:14
  that's deep throat level shit, boy. Put him on Pornhub
• 32:18
  in front of the babies. You belong in every cuckold
• 32:21
  video I've ever heard of. Like, what the fuck? Sit in that chair
• 32:26
  and you enjoy. Everyone abides by the same rules.
• 32:28
  Everyone profits evenly to the dime from the riches.
• 32:32
  Well, not anymore if you expel LSU, you dumb fucks.
• 32:35
  Listen, that's wild to me, but Hey, listen, great, go ahead and fuck
• 32:39
  around. Let LSU walk out. Let the fucking— like, let them do the fucking Notre
• 32:43
  Dame thing. I bet they make a killing on their own. Let them join the
• 32:46
  Big Ten. Holy fuck, can you imagine if LSU joined the Big
• 32:50
  Ten? Yeah, the SEC becomes fucking literally Conference
• 32:54
  B and might be B-. And they're already close to being— they're close because the
• 32:58
  Big Ten is the fucking shit. And I'm not saying that because I'm a UCLA
• 33:01
  guy. A lot of people already think— a lot of people people already think the
• 33:05
  Big Ten is like the— is so like, which is
• 33:09
  crazy. I understand. I don't love it, by the way, because like, listen, it's— I'm
• 33:13
  a UCLA guy. I'm a Pac-12 guy. I'm— by the way, I played in the
• 33:16
  Pac-10. But OG Pac-12, Pac-10, it's the shit. Yeah,
• 33:19
  it's the shit. But like, here's the deal. I understand. And I
• 33:23
  like that the Big Ten is like become this national conference because like,
• 33:27
  that's the— that's what's going to be. It's going to end up being like 3
• 33:31
  national— Cal is in the fucking Atlantic Coast Conference.
• 33:36
  Stanford is in the Atlantic Coast Conference.
• 33:39
  Being in the ACC makes me want— it makes me feel so sick
• 33:43
  to my stomach. Fucked up. It's fucked up and broken. So like, listen,
• 33:46
  the Atlantic Coast Conference is now a national conference. The Big Ten
• 33:51
  is now a national conference of what, 19 teams? 16?
• 33:54
  I don't even fucking know how At the end of the day,
• 33:57
  like, that's what it's all going to be. I don't love it. Do you love
• 34:01
  it? I fucking hate it. I missed the Pac-10. I thought this could have been
• 34:05
  divisional the way it was going to go into the pro route because it's
• 34:09
  always been a pro league and division.
• 34:12
  Why didn't we just keep the divisions the way they were?
• 34:16
  I'm a little— Oregon is like fucking 3rd in
• 34:20
  the country. Like, Oregon's always this national powerhouse. They've been in the Pac-
• 34:23
  fucking 12, which they bought, by the way. Yeah. So we're clear, they bought their
• 34:27
  way into that level of success and relevance completely. It was never complete.
• 34:31
  It's not recruiting. It's not the integrity of— no,
• 34:34
  this is Nike. It's fucking Phil Knight. No question
• 34:38
  about it. So like, if we want to keep whining and crying about the integrity
• 34:42
  of college football, that's a perfect example. The reality is
• 34:46
  that like, to, to cite how everybody profits
• 34:50
  evenly and, and everybody gets to benefit
• 34:54
  from the riches as you're saying that LSU should get expelled from
• 34:58
  the SEC, thus reducing everyone's income is so
• 35:03
  fucking funny. This guy is very stupid. Yes. He goes on to say that LSU
• 35:06
  overplayed its hand because it got caught up in the Kiffin hurricane and started
• 35:10
  thinking and acting like him. You know, the same nonsense he instigated
• 35:14
  with the NFL's Raiders and Tennessee and USC. In Alabama and Ole Miss.
• 35:17
  It's the world according to Kiffin absorbed through osmosis. Um,
• 35:22
  not adding players who signed NFL contracts but not trying to, uh,
• 35:25
  strict penalties for those who did. He could have stopped
• 35:28
  this from day one by telling Kiffin that LSU would not accept
• 35:33
  players who signed NFL deals. Um, here's the thing.
• 35:37
  Yes, Lane Kiffin,
• 35:40
  when he went to LSU should
• 35:44
  not have left Mississippi State the way that he did, right? Like, yeah, it was
• 35:48
  gross. The way he did was fucked up and we all
• 35:51
  hated it. And by the way, like, that's the other— like,
• 35:54
  just for an added layer, like bastardizing players in,
• 35:58
  in the portal or whatever they've tried to do.
• 36:02
  Oh, we talked about it at the time. Disaster. Disaster. You let the coaches— coaches
• 36:06
  can do whatever they want no matter what. It's I mean, to Lane Kiffin's
• 36:10
  credit, he's like, I do whatever I want. Why can't my players? No. So like,
• 36:13
  in that respect, I even respect it even more. Well, and guess who
• 36:17
  let him do it? LSU and the SEC.
• 36:20
  Yes, no question. LSU. And now they're in the moral high ground.
• 36:24
  Let him peace out from the middle, like in the,
• 36:28
  in the fucking playoffs, from a playoff team to go to
• 36:31
  LSU and fuck over his entire team, which by
• 36:35
  the way could have won a national title. Could have. They could have won a
• 36:38
  national title. That team was good as fuck. Really good. He leaves, he fucks
• 36:41
  the team up, takes coaches with him, and guess who was
• 36:44
  totally fine with it? The SEC,
• 36:49
  Cody. The SEC was fine with it. So now they're like, I can't
• 36:53
  believe Lane Kiffin acts like this. Where were you in
• 36:57
  January, Tanya? They got Paul Feinbaum working
• 37:01
  overtime right now, and His bald head, and as
• 37:04
  a bald guy I will tell you, is fucking smoking due to
• 37:09
  the overwork that he's trying to do at the moment to make justifications of all
• 37:12
  of this. And the way he got the gift of the Western Michigan-Michigan
• 37:16
  game of being able to point at the, the Big Ten for being villains—
• 37:20
  I, I, I truly hate what this has all become.
• 37:24
  This has become the worst version of reality TV.
• 37:28
  It's not— it's I wish it was reality TV because at least in reality
• 37:32
  TV there's a like, there's a, there's a script and we
• 37:36
  know the story we're trying to tell. I don't think the SEC has any clue
• 37:40
  what they're doing. I agree. I actually fucking wholeheartedly agree. That's why this is
• 37:44
  such, for lack of a better phrase, dogshit. I honestly, this is my takeaway from
• 37:48
  the entire thing. The SEC personally
• 37:52
  thinks they are too big to fail. They think they are the show. And I'm
• 37:56
  not gonna lie to you, I'm now rooting for LSU in this debacle
• 38:00
  because I think it's time for fucking somebody to be slapped down to understand
• 38:04
  exactly what pays the bills. I feel like this is like a— is
• 38:07
  like a— like a trickle-down effect a little bit. Oh,
• 38:10
  SEC, you think you're the fucking masters? Nope, the— the teams
• 38:13
  are actually the masters. Oh, teams, you think you're the masters? Bullshit,
• 38:17
  the players are actually the masters. I'm like kind of looking this like
• 38:21
  the other way around. I want people to start seeing actually who has the
• 38:24
  real power out there compared to the people who claim they have the
• 38:28
  fucking power out there. I, I just can't get over— I agree with you completely,
• 38:32
  and I, I can't get over the idea that this self-righteous bullshit
• 38:37
  conference was fine with one of their found—
• 38:40
  another one of their founding schools getting fucked over on a playoff run
• 38:45
  by this coaching change Only to that,
• 38:48
  as a super casual, I love Lane Kiffin. The system shouldn't force coaches to grab
• 38:52
  jobs during the playoffs. I— we hate Lane Kiffin
• 38:55
  and we agree with you. Yeah, I am, uh,
• 38:58
  completely always anti-Lane Kiffin, but this is correct.
• 39:01
  No, like, I, I— and I don't hate Lane Kiffin. Like, I hate him in
• 39:05
  the— no, but I mean, like, I, I don't hate him like I hate,
• 39:08
  like, Donald Trump. Oh yeah, no, no, it's like I hate him in the sports
• 39:11
  world. Like, I'm not Like, I hate what Lane Kiffin is, but I'm sure I'd
• 39:15
  have a drink with him. I would never have a drink with Donald Trump.
• 39:17
  Whatever. Right. But like, but you're— no,
• 39:20
  they should not. The whole thing. But, but they were— they also
• 39:24
  didn't need to. Like, if LSU wanted Lane Kiffin, they could
• 39:28
  have waited for Lane Kiffin. They were afraid that if they didn't— if like Lane
• 39:32
  was worried that if he didn't take the job, they'd go get somebody else.
• 39:35
  And it was all self-serving bullshit. And the SEC let
• 39:39
  it happen. And so now they're dealing with Lane Kiffin
• 39:43
  at LSU. You gave him a fucking— you put him right back up to the
• 39:47
  top of the— to the big dogs, the top of the SEC. And now you're
• 39:50
  like, whoa, I can't even believe this guy thinks he can do whatever he wanted
• 39:53
  when we let him do it. I'm so over this. So to
• 39:57
  just to recap, because this is a winding road.
• 40:00
  Yes, boy. The SEC has not proven,
• 40:03
  nor have the courts proven, that Lane Kiffin broke a rule. They are in
• 40:07
  the midst of trying to prove that Lane Kiffin and LSU broke a
• 40:10
  rule. They have not proven it. They are now threatening to remove
• 40:14
  LSU from the SEC, and they're going to meet with—
• 40:17
  everybody's going to have a meeting on Thursday. They have preemptively taken a restraining
• 40:22
  order out on LSU to not stop them from having
• 40:25
  the meeting, even though there's no evidence that LSU was ever going to stop them
• 40:28
  from having the meeting, which is a full-on fucking publicity stunt to
• 40:32
  get everybody on their side because they've now painted LSU and Kiffin
• 40:36
  as trying to interfere with their First Amendment rights.
• 40:40
  That is— this is a fucking joke. And anybody
• 40:43
  who at this point doesn't understand that the SEC is
• 40:47
  playing fucking mind games to try to get you to,
• 40:52
  to, to go against the establishment bullshit that they created so
• 40:57
  that they can be the good guys, I don't know what to tell you.
• 40:59
  The SEC as the good guys is going to land you in a spot where
• 41:03
  players are back to getting in trouble for being
• 41:06
  bought McDonald's. That's what they want.
• 41:10
  Colonel Mustard in the library with
• 41:14
  the fucking hammer. You don't like Lane Kiffin like you hate Aaron Boone?
• 41:18
  No, I hate Aaron Boone way more than I hate Lane Kiffin.
• 41:21
  Fuck, I hate this. This is making
• 41:25
  me a a fan of Lane Kiffin. Like, that's the worst
• 41:30
  part of all of this. I would love for— I would love for something to
• 41:33
  make me like Aaron Boone, honestly. Fuck, give me a chance to
• 41:37
  like— fuck, I just want you all to eat each other, like, at this point.
• 41:41
  Oh my God. Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, I feel— I hope—
• 41:46
  I hope that was digestible to
• 41:51
  anyone. Because even, even after getting that incredible breakdown,
• 41:55
  I'm still even still a little confused because it's, it's so
• 41:59
  convoluted. The bong hit. It might have been. It might have been the bong hit.
• 42:02
  But it's also the fact that it's, it's become so convoluted. I mean,
• 42:06
  it's, it's for me, it's not convoluted, but I understand that it is getting confusing
• 42:09
  to explain. Here's something that's not convoluted.
• 42:13
  Good. I'm going to give you a headline. Give it to me.
• 42:16
  So just a basic NFL headline. Classic preseason. We're about to kick off regular season
• 42:20
  of NFL. Yes. NFL power rankings. You know them, you love them. Well, we hate
• 42:24
  them so much. Hate them and love them at the same time. NFL power rankings.
• 42:27
  Are the Bills and Josh Allen the biggest threat to the Rams' reign?
• 42:31
  Fuck me. Fuck me. So I'm going to— I
• 42:34
  don't— I'm not even going to get into the article because this is power rankings.
• 42:38
  We don't actually really fully care about the power rankings per se, because who cares?
• 42:41
  That's just like whatever. That headline almost
• 42:45
  broke my entire brain. Are the Bills and Josh Allen
• 42:50
  The biggest threat to the Rams' reign.
• 42:52
  So I'm going to ask you a question. Yes.
• 42:56
  Are the Bills and Josh Allen the biggest threat to anything?
• 43:00
  Have they ever been the biggest threat to anything ever? Can I,
• 43:03
  can I ask a follow-up question? No, you have to answer that one first.
• 43:06
  Okay. No. Okay. It's a direct no. Okay. Also,
• 43:10
  what Rams reign? Thank you. That was actually my question.
• 43:14
  That was the question I wanted to ask you. There's 2 because I got so
• 43:18
  confused by the premise. Because the premise was some magical
• 43:23
  world that doesn't fucking exist. Wait, wait,
• 43:26
  who's— I'm sorry, the last I checked, the Rams
• 43:30
  haven't won a Super Bowl since 2020. They won a Super Bowl in
• 43:34
  2021. That was very fun, right? That was 5 years ago. It was also 5
• 43:39
  years ago. Matthew Stafford did win an MVP last year. Last year.
• 43:42
  He— this guy, this guy refers to Matthew
• 43:47
  Stafford is perhaps the best quarterback in football. What? So apparently
• 43:54
  he's, he's going up. He's got Josh Allen number 2. Boy,
• 43:58
  boy, I have a lot of questions. Boy, I have a lot of questions about
• 44:02
  that. This one headline threw me for such a— this headline has
• 44:06
  done so much heavy lifting of a predisposed universe.
• 44:10
  It was like a cinematic universe that we were not privy to.
• 44:13
  I feel I feel like, you know, in The Flash when he ends up in
• 44:16
  those, in those alter— on like Earth-4, a new world. Yeah, so he's
• 44:20
  like, he's on like Earth-4. We're all playing catch-up exactly
• 44:24
  who starred in what movie. That's the world we're currently living
• 44:28
  in. He's like, he opens that up, he's like, he's like, oh my God,
• 44:31
  Michael B. Jordan is Iron Man! And are the Bills and
• 44:35
  Josh Allen— Al Pacino is, is fucking Luke Skywalker.
• 44:39
  And explain the universe we're currently in.
• 44:42
  Batshit. Batshit based on the premise.
• 44:45
  So, so here we are. And I want to break this down real quick.
• 44:50
  Josh Allen and the Bills across the, across the
• 44:54
  course of the time that they have been legitimate playoff contenders. Yes.
• 44:57
  He's won a, he's won an MVP that he should
• 45:02
  have lost to Lamar Jackson. I agree. But that's okay. He didn't. Okay,
• 45:06
  fine. He did have a great season. He did. It was phenomenal. It was his
• 45:09
  best season. It was. And he won an MVP for it. No All-Pros,
• 45:14
  a really bad showing in the, in the divisional round last season.
• 45:18
  Coach fired. The only coach he's ever played for fired. He has
• 45:22
  a new head coach. Nobody talks about it. His guy.
• 45:25
  Nobody has talked about the fact— doesn't matter.
• 45:29
  Nobody's talked about the fact that Joe Brady has a brand new head coach who,
• 45:32
  by the way, only got promoted to the offensive
• 45:36
  coordinator because the previous offensive coordinator, who was caught on camera looking like an absolute
• 45:39
  lunatic, got fired. Like, like, this guy was never
• 45:42
  hired at any point. So McDermott was, was the
• 45:45
  head coach when he had top 5 defenses for basically 5 years,
• 45:49
  the head coach when Josh Allen had one of the best offensive lines in football,
• 45:53
  the head coach that also oversaw the fact that James Cook
• 45:57
  ended up being the leading rusher in football last year. Now, I don't necessarily—
• 46:01
  I'm not saying that Sean McDermott deserved to keep his job or didn't. I,
• 46:04
  I moved on. I don't care. Agreed. But like,
• 46:08
  we're, we're just acting like they are there, everything's business as
• 46:12
  usual. I agree. It's crazy. Is all we've talked
• 46:16
  about Lamar's new head coach? Yeah, we've talked about— no, no, that doesn't matter.
• 46:20
  He's got the most pressure. Continue. Yeah, well, he did, of course. Hold on.
• 46:23
  And Jalen Hurts also with a similar amount of pressure. Continue. Yes. Yeah,
• 46:27
  yeah, him and Jalen Hurts. I can't believe they're even NFL quarterbacks, uh, by the
• 46:30
  way, uh Washington Commanders there. Who's Jaden Daniels? Jaden Daniels.
• 46:34
  Pressure. Well, this year. Yeah. Year— what is he, year 3? It's time for
• 46:38
  him to show up. Pressure. He was Rookie of the Year, but he had one
• 46:41
  down year. So Justin Herbert, no pressure. He's gold. Yeah. No, are you kidding?
• 46:45
  Justin Herbert, he's literally perfect. He's doing great. Yeah.
• 46:49
  Yeah. So here's the thing. I'm trying to think what else was on
• 46:53
  Dan Orlovsky's list. Like, if I were genuine, I've thought about this, like where
• 46:57
  I would put the Bills In terms of like benefit of the doubt at
• 47:00
  this point. We know that nobody's going to give— ever
• 47:04
  going to blame anything on Josh Allen, which I like. I think when you get
• 47:07
  the credit for when you're doing great, you should take a little bit of a
• 47:11
  shot when things don't go well. Yeah. Head coach is fired. You had the rusher,
• 47:14
  you've had offensive lines, you've had the defense like something's up.
• 47:18
  And that's not just on Josh Allen, by the way. It could have also been
• 47:21
  on Josh McDermott. And I do understand. I mean, Josh McDermott, What is this?
• 47:25
  What is that guy's name? Whatever. McDermott. McDermott. Let's just say McDermott right
• 47:29
  now. Sean McDermott. Maybe at this point there's so many names. Sean McDermott.
• 47:33
  But it could have been. But like, at the end of the day,
• 47:37
  okay, so they've got a new— why are— I wouldn't
• 47:41
  put anybody with a brand new head coach as the cream
• 47:45
  of the crop in the AFC. Me neither. For— I
• 47:49
  don't love it. I don't love it, but Patrick Mahomes is playing football
• 47:54
  this year. Yes. On the Chiefs. And until last
• 47:58
  year, they'd been to the Super Bowl 5 of the last 6 seasons.
• 48:03
  Like, they've got the same head coach and the same quarterback. Yeah,
• 48:06
  that's usually all you goddamn need. I don't
• 48:10
  know where people got this idea. Not only do they have the head coach and
• 48:13
  the quarterback, they have— they have a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator.
• 48:17
  No, I agree. It's fucking batshit. The best defensive coordinator,
• 48:20
  in my opinion. Outside of like Tony Dungy,
• 48:24
  who's been retired for a while, of the last 25 years. Completely agree.
• 48:27
  It's batshit. No, like, here's the thing. That's the thing that's been actually boggling
• 48:31
  my mind for the most part going into this NFL season. The amount how nobody's
• 48:35
  actually talking about the fucking Chiefs. Like, it's scary. And by the way, I'm a
• 48:38
  Raider fan. I know my team is going to win at very best 6,
• 48:41
  7 wins. 7 is a lofty fucking dream.
• 48:45
  But I want to make this abundantly clear. Holy shit,
• 48:49
  how come no one's talking about this? Like, it's actually
• 48:53
  starting to bother me to the point where I'm starting to think there's like a
• 48:56
  method behind it that are cooking up like fucking sportsbooks. It's the only thing I
• 48:59
  can come up with at this point. Well, Chiefs fans are feeling crazy. Like,
• 49:03
  I actually— like, there's been a few Chiefs fans who are like, hey, are we—
• 49:05
  am I being sensitive, or is the way people are talking about the Chiefs and
• 49:08
  Mahomes weird? And I'm like, no, it's weird. No, it's weird. Um, I've like
• 49:12
  I, I don't— I recall that there was like doubt
• 49:16
  around Tom Brady and Bill Belichick after they hadn't won a
• 49:19
  Super Bowl for a while. It's been like not
• 49:23
  even 3 calendar years, like 2 calendar years since then. Like, what are we doing,
• 49:26
  right? Fucking crazy. So that part is, is weird.
• 49:30
  And then on top of all of that, in division— and
• 49:34
  I'm not saying I don't have like the craziest high hopes for the Patriots,
• 49:39
  But like, in division, you have Mike Vrabel in year 2, Drake Maye
• 49:43
  in year 3. Yes, they just signed the best fucking cornerback in football.
• 49:46
  They have a great defense no matter what they fucking do. And this
• 49:50
  team just went to the Super Bowl. It's not likely to me that they're going
• 49:53
  to make us another Super Bowl run. I would be pleased with that, with their,
• 49:55
  their season, if they just make the playoffs, whatever else.
• 49:59
  But it's not a cakewalk for the Bills anymore. Not even Drake Maye and Mike
• 50:03
  Vrabel and that defense are sitting right there. That's what's actually driven me crazy because
• 50:06
  I feel like the window was this last year and a half. And the window—
• 50:09
  the Patriots made it before the Bills again, and that fucking drove me nuts.
• 50:12
  Nobody talks about the fact that the Patriots dynasty ended, the Bills
• 50:16
  took over, they ran the division for fucking 6
• 50:20
  years, and then guess who made the Super Bowl first? The fucking Patriots.
• 50:24
  And not only that, like, in between you had a new dynasty
• 50:28
  with the fucking Chiefs. Like, you missed your fucking window. It was there.
• 50:32
  Like, it fucking gift-wrapped. And the worst part is the last
• 50:36
  year of it being gift-wrapped, Patrick Mahomes wasn't even fucking there.
• 50:40
  You had no boogeyman. The only boogeyman was the fucking
• 50:44
  mirror in front of you, you fucking pussies.
• 50:48
  Unbelievable. You blew it. You blew it.
• 50:51
  And over to the— and over to the NFC.
• 50:55
  The Rams' reign is crazy. The Rams
• 50:59
  reign is crazy. That's fucking crazy. I'm sorry, they won
• 51:03
  in 2021. I, I also want— I just want you to remember, I just
• 51:07
  want you to remember one thing. Not only have they not won since 2021,
• 51:10
  the Niners have been to 2 Super Bowls since,
• 51:14
  and the Seahawks won last year and knocked
• 51:19
  out the Rams in the fucking— to go to the Super Bowl. It's like fucking
• 51:24
  Nothing is real. This is— everything you've seen means
• 51:28
  nothing. Fucking insane. You're all being gaslit
• 51:32
  with batshit crazy fucking people. They're in their division.
• 51:37
  Crazy. Fucking crazy. There have been
• 51:40
  3 Super Bowl appearances since the Rams won
• 51:44
  a Super Bowl not involving the Rams.
• 51:48
  I don't— the reign of the Rams. Fucking nuts. I don't
• 51:52
  get it. Now, I will say I get why the Rams are Super Bowl favorites.
• 51:55
  I agree. That's not what I'm saying. But the reign of the Rams— reign?
• 51:59
  Fucking reign. Guys, we are playing fast
• 52:03
  and loose. They didn't spell this R-A-I-N, by the way. We are playing
• 52:07
  fast and loose with the term reign. You're all batshit.
• 52:11
  Like, I, I, I would be— I would actually make
• 52:15
  fun of this if it said if they were a threat to the Seahawks' reign.
• 52:18
  There's no— a reign has to— it has to be an
• 52:22
  extended time period where you are sort
• 52:26
  of on top and unbeatable. Guess who— guess who that
• 52:30
  has done that the most recently? The Chiefs and the Eagles,
• 52:34
  who you both decided fucking suck, apparently.
• 52:38
  Well, then Eagles, listen, a lot of pressure.
• 52:43
  The Chiefs too. The Chiefs, we're not— they don't even have pressure. They don't even
• 52:47
  expect anything. They don't even exist. Patrick Mahomes
• 52:50
  is dead. Andy Reid is— we— they're ghosts of their former selves.
• 52:55
  We don't even have to worry about— don't worry about them at all. We— they're
• 52:58
  not even— they're not even overrated. They're just— and let's be real
• 53:01
  clear, the pressure in Philly— oh,
• 53:05
  the less we talk about them, the better. Uh, by the way, you ever see
• 53:08
  the movie Reign of Fire? No, it's not— it's not good.
• 53:11
  Oh yes, I— wait, it's a— it's a dragon movie starring Christian Bale.
• 53:16
  And I just loved it because the movie— I just thought about— in my head
• 53:19
  I thought about Man on Fire. Oh, that's a good movie. That's a really good
• 53:23
  movie. Reign of Fire, not a good movie. Okay, except I will tell you this,
• 53:26
  there is a reason to love this movie. Okay, Matthew McConaughey shaves
• 53:30
  his head and he's this over-the-top American, like, dragon killer.
• 53:36
  And there's a scene where he gets killed. No, you,
• 53:39
  you have to understand. You, you ever see Deep Blue Sea when, when,
• 53:42
  when Samuel L. Jackson's killed and it's just so ridiculous and out of
• 53:46
  nowhere? The only thing that I think is funnier is Matthew McConaughey's death scene in
• 53:50
  fucking Reign of Fire. Okay, he— it was in the trailer.
• 53:55
  It's him jumping off a fucking, like,
• 53:58
  like, castle in heroic fashion with
• 54:03
  an axe in the air. It's a suicide mission, right? Going to
• 54:07
  take out a dragon that's flying at him, right? Boy oh
• 54:10
  boy, that's what they set up in the trailers. I want you to
• 54:14
  watch the movie. I'm not doing that. You should watch the movie.
• 54:17
  But you know what, Mocha, have you— since this is Mocha— no,
• 54:20
  hold on, hold on, this is before your time, but have you seen
• 54:24
  Man on Fire with Denzel Washington and Dakota Fanning?
• 54:29
  No, no, you gotta see that. It's so good. Tony Scott,
• 54:33
  man. It's— isn't there a really good Black
• 54:37
  Mirror episode that's called Man on Fire also? Black Mirror. Black Mirror?
• 54:41
  I don't know. Oh, but the movie— I've seen every episode of Black Mirror,
• 54:44
  so if there is one, I just don't remember the name. Follow-up question: have you
• 54:48
  seen Reign of Fire, the dragon movie starring Christian Bale and Matthew
• 54:53
  McConaughey? No, but you're not missing a goddamn thing.
• 54:57
  But it sounds fascinating. Go on YouTube and watch the death scene of Matthew
• 55:01
  McConaughey. It is worth— that is worth the 3 and a half minutes. Mocha,
• 55:04
  how many Denzel movies— like, have you seen a decent amount of Denzel movies,
• 55:07
  or is he out of your scope as, as a 28-year-old?
• 55:11
  Have you seen Philadelphia? On— I, I really haven't seen
• 55:15
  a lot of Denzel movies. Okay. Um, but I'm starting
• 55:19
  with Training Day soon. Yes, but you
• 55:23
  hear— can you hear me out? No, you can't start with Training Day. Yes,
• 55:26
  you absolutely can. No, it's like a crescendo. First of all, literally,
• 55:31
  literally never say that there's a peak for Denzel. It's never— it
• 55:35
  never started, it never stops. Denzel is always
• 55:39
  the perfect— I agree. So you can't go wrong,
• 55:43
  and I'm not doing this with you. No, we're gonna do this. This is not
• 55:46
  like Tom Cruise. Hear me out. Tom Hanks. There's not any of that shit.
• 55:48
  Hear me out. Denzel is always good. I agree.
• 55:52
  Hear me out though. This is why I want you to hear me out.
• 55:55
  I want everyone to hear me out.
• 56:01
  Here's the deal. Phenomenal and everything.
• 56:05
  If you watch Malcolm X, incredible. If you watch
• 56:08
  fucking Crimson Tide,
• 56:11
  incredible. Philadelphia, incredible.
• 56:15
  The reason why I say this about Training Day is because in Training
• 56:19
  Day, it's the first time Denzel plays ultimately
• 56:23
  the worst son of a bitch who fucking— you're not supposed to give away the
• 56:27
  fucking movie. You know it from— I've seen one. Okay,
• 56:31
  I've seen— the problem is he's so fucking charming that
• 56:34
  he's the most lovable character in the movie, and that's
• 56:37
  the magic of Denzel. That's also why I think the ending of the movie and
• 56:42
  the way the movie goes— lots of flawed fucked up characters. No, but in that
• 56:45
  movie, he is just the worst and the best at the same time. I— the—
• 56:50
  it felt like— it felt like— hear me out on this. You ever see Interstellar?
• 56:53
  Yeah. I apologize. The first time you saw Interstellar,
• 56:57
  when you saw Matt Damon— when I saw Matt Damon, who I
• 57:00
  knew was in the movie based on the back of my mind, but it wasn't
• 57:02
  in the credits, wasn't like the— and then Matt Damon showed up, you were like,
• 57:05
  holy shit, it's Matt Damon! That's kind of what happened in the movie. But when
• 57:09
  Matt Damon showed up, I felt like, Matt Damon's here,
• 57:14
  everything's going to be okay. That's how I felt in
• 57:18
  Training Day. Denzel's here. No matter what, everything's gonna be okay. That's just— you're right,
• 57:22
  you're a mark. You're a fucking mark. Oh, you're just the worst type. You didn't—
• 57:25
  you didn't know Denzel. You're the worst type of person. You didn't know Denzel like
• 57:29
  I do. You don't trust Denzel the way I trust him, and that's a you
• 57:32
  problem. I trusted Denzel and he broke me in that movie. Okay,
• 57:35
  well, the same way Matt Damon broke me in Interstellar.
• 57:38
  Spoilers. I would never have trusted Matt Damon like that. I trusted him. I trusted
• 57:42
  you, Matt Damon. Oh my God. All right, uh,
• 57:46
  we obviously, we obviously made our point about the NFL power rankings.
• 57:50
  Uh, quick, quick, uh, we need to make a quick point about international basketball
• 57:54
  because, uh, fans are worried as France sets FIBA record,
• 57:58
  challenging Team USA's World Cup hopes. Now everybody knows the Team
• 58:01
  USA women have been playing in the FIBA World Cup. Um, they are,
• 58:05
  they've, they had a close call the other day, made it
• 58:09
  through that game. Yeah, it was a close call against Italy. But France,
• 58:13
  who has plenty of WNBA players themselves, have set a new tournament
• 58:17
  record by making 22 3-pointers in its 111-56
• 58:22
  win over Nigeria on Monday. The team shot 22-of-40 from beyond the arc,
• 58:25
  with Gabby Williams converting 6 triples, Marina Johannes adding 5
• 58:28
  more. So FIBA posted this news on X and fans immediately
• 58:32
  expressed mounting concern for the team. Team USA and France are on a collision course
• 58:36
  and they could meet in the finals because they're on each side of the bracket.
• 58:38
  It. I want to quickly— a lot of people don't watch
• 58:42
  international basketball and don't realize the differences in these games
• 58:46
  compared to watching the WNBA. And so people are incredibly frustrated
• 58:49
  with Kara Lawson, who I think is an incredible coach and the perfect
• 58:53
  coach for this team, the way she's been handing out minutes. They want to— of
• 58:56
  course they want to see more Angel Reese, they want to see more Caitlin Clark,
• 58:59
  who by the way, Caitlin Clark I'm pretty sure is like leading the team in
• 59:01
  minutes played. Like she's always on the court. Her and Paige Bueckers have like really
• 59:05
  been on the court a lot. Yeah. But everybody's like
• 59:09
  terrified now, right? And like international basketball,
• 59:13
  way more than club, you know, than league
• 59:17
  basketball, yeah, is about like stylistic matchup. Okay,
• 59:20
  so it's the more WNBA players
• 59:25
  on a team that you're playing, the more likely it is that they're going to
• 59:28
  be like a, like a difficult matchup for you because they, they know the kind
• 59:32
  of— they're familiar with their with their, you know, that, that's,
• 59:35
  that's obvious, right? That Italy had a lot of WNBA there,
• 59:38
  but not nearly like France. There was a couple.
• 59:43
  When you're playing international basketball, the very best thing you can do
• 59:46
  is put the most experienced competitors on the court as often
• 59:50
  as possible. Yes. Everybody is complaining that certain players aren't
• 59:54
  getting certain minutes. I need, like, and I need you
• 59:58
  to back me up on this because I know you agree with me. International play
• 1:00:02
  is so much more leadership-driven
• 1:00:05
  and like vibes-driven than your— than a normal fucking team. Oh my
• 1:00:10
  God, you didn't need to request me to be on your side on this.
• 1:00:13
  No, I know that. I, I was more like, you can, because I know you're
• 1:00:16
  going to agree. Yeah, no, I was— it was— I normally wouldn't do that,
• 1:00:20
  but I was like, you've played on an international— like, vibes exist.
• 1:00:23
  Yes, but there is leadership
• 1:00:27
  of like I like knowing, setting the tone,
• 1:00:30
  it setting the tone in a space like that in international basketball,
• 1:00:34
  it's different in international baseball, especially in a short span,
• 1:00:37
  the way you have to set it up. So condensed. Oh my God, it's crazy.
• 1:00:40
  So crazy. It's crazy. You're playing against players that you know on other
• 1:00:44
  teams in a way that's like way more intense because you're playing with your,
• 1:00:47
  like, with a flag on your chest. Yeah. And by the way,
• 1:00:50
  talent, like, we can make the argument, like, let's go like dream team.
• 1:00:54
  Obviously, I think what a people's minds would immediately go, yeah, talent can
• 1:00:57
  win out when you have outrageous talent.
• 1:01:01
  And I'm not saying that the, the U.S. team doesn't have outrageous talent, but at
• 1:01:04
  the end of the day, I mean, it— like, the U.S.— so the,
• 1:01:08
  so the U.S. men's basketball teams that lost, like,
• 1:01:11
  remember they had to do the redeem team? Yes. You know, everything went to hell.
• 1:01:16
  Those teams were more talented than any team in the world. They didn't lose because
• 1:01:19
  they weren't the most talented. They're the— they
• 1:01:23
  weren't a team though. Team USA, whether it's women's or men's,
• 1:01:27
  has— it has never not been the most talented team in the world. I completely
• 1:01:32
  agree. So not winning has never been about that. Not once.
• 1:01:35
  Always been about leadership and chemistry, and that
• 1:01:40
  is it. And when there have been upsets, that has been the
• 1:01:43
  deciding factor. And so I just wanted
• 1:01:47
  to throw this in here to let people know who are new to watching this,
• 1:01:50
  because I lot of our, our followers watch the WNBA
• 1:01:54
  and are watching, uh, the FIBA World Cup and are
• 1:01:57
  just really confused with how the lineups are working and how they're working things through.
• 1:02:02
  And like, there are certain lineups that people want with a
• 1:02:07
  lot of the younger players. No,
• 1:02:10
  no, there is a very specific thing that she's doing with her rotations
• 1:02:14
  and the way she's putting specific people in there. Really funny, interesting thing
• 1:02:18
  that they've learned, and this is only something you learn as you're going through these
• 1:02:20
  tournaments, the Caitlin Clark to Angel Reese connection is actually pretty— it's
• 1:02:24
  actually really good. I've seen it, I've seen multiple videos. It is actually really good.
• 1:02:27
  I'm not super surprised by— why wouldn't it be, right? She's a dynamic
• 1:02:31
  ball mover from the perimeter. She's able to send it in, and, and, and Angel
• 1:02:36
  Reese gets inside and is so powerful in there. She uses her size like so
• 1:02:39
  well. I was really— I know, I know this was a video that was like
• 1:02:42
  very popular. But watching her guard the 7'3 like
• 1:02:47
  Zhang was like really fun to watch. And Caitlin Clark
• 1:02:51
  is still figuring out— like all these younger players, Angel, Caitlin, Paige,
• 1:02:55
  are figuring out where they— how they work with this specific group of women.
• 1:02:58
  Caitlin Clark is not going to be a scorer on this team. That's been made
• 1:03:01
  very clear. She doesn't— she's not going to be a scorer. But she can dish
• 1:03:04
  against— exactly. She's a facilitator. She needs to be out there. She's pulling
• 1:03:07
  fucking Uh, she's pulling, you know, um, coverage. Like, she's— yeah,
• 1:03:11
  there, there is— it's noticeable. And so is Paige. The way Paige plays,
• 1:03:15
  a little more dynamic. She's a little bit more athletic. There's a— she drives inside
• 1:03:19
  a little bit more. But like, those things all match up with specific players
• 1:03:23
  in specific rotations, and you need them in specific ways. And like, while that does
• 1:03:26
  happen, of course, in the WNBA and in the NBA, whatever,
• 1:03:30
  there, the— there's a new thing that happens in international basketball.
• 1:03:34
  Like, nobody thought Jason Tatum wasn't a good enough NBA player to be on the
• 1:03:38
  fucking national team. But the reality is, the reality is,
• 1:03:41
  in 2024, those players that were
• 1:03:45
  playing— Joel Embiid was playing out of his fucking mind. He worked with
• 1:03:49
  Steph and LeBron and KD, and I forget who the fuck was, you know,
• 1:03:52
  like the 5th player that they had out there. But like,
• 1:03:56
  that's just how this stuff works. So people don't freak out, number one.
• 1:04:00
  2, when it comes to a team like France, no matter
• 1:04:03
  how good that team looks to you, if they
• 1:04:07
  are shooting that many threes, all they
• 1:04:11
  got to do is defend on the perimeter a little bit better. And that,
• 1:04:13
  like, if you're telling me you don't think that the United States is a better
• 1:04:16
  perimeter defending team than Nigeria, like, relax. I'm not saying
• 1:04:20
  don't take it seriously, but like, they have the talent to win.
• 1:04:23
  So yeah, no, this is exciting. But, but by the
• 1:04:27
  way, the way that people are freaking out about France, Like, is freaking out the
• 1:04:30
  right word? Because I don't— if Team USA was to lose this,
• 1:04:35
  it's fine. Exactly. I'm not worried about it. Isn't this a good thing, kind of,
• 1:04:39
  for international basketball? They don't even have our best player. I know. Isn't this a
• 1:04:42
  kind of a good thing, just like in the long term? I don't hate it.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, I don't either. It's the same way I'm looking at like the W— like
• 1:04:49
  the NBA All-Star Game. Like, I wanted Team World— I would love to
• 1:04:53
  fuck up Team USA. I would love to see them win without Asia because I
• 1:04:56
  think that like Asia's a cheat code and it would be cool to see them
• 1:04:59
  be able to do it without the best player. She's like when Captain Marvel shows
• 1:05:02
  up at the very end of Endgame, right? Um,
• 1:05:06
  so like it would be kind of cool to see them get it done,
• 1:05:09
  but also Asia's a cheat code and she's been around for a lot of these
• 1:05:12
  tournaments and they're figuring out how to win without her. And so, um, FIBA is
• 1:05:16
  different from the Olympics though. Queen Asia would be outside if this was the big
• 1:05:19
  one. Would be outside?
• 1:05:23
  Define outside. I don't know what that means.
• 1:05:26
  FIBA is different from the Olympics. I think he means she would be putting
• 1:05:30
  on a show. Oh, probably trying hard. Well, she definitely— that's what I
• 1:05:34
  just— he's agreeing with you, Tanya.
• 1:05:38
  But what's different from the Olympics though? I'm, I'm confused about the—
• 1:05:42
  about— I don't know, FIBA Olympics, it's a bigger deal. I don't know. No,
• 1:05:45
  bigger stage. Um, Either way,
• 1:05:48
  I think if we agree that— I think we— I think we're saying that Asia
• 1:05:53
  is a badass. Yeah, when I say she's a cheat code, yeah, in a great
• 1:05:56
  way. Best player. No, no, I think he's only— I think Isaiah is agreeing with
• 1:06:00
  you, not disagreeing. Yeah, let's be real clear on the best fucking
• 1:06:03
  basketball player, female basketball player in the world is.
• 1:06:06
  She's one of the best basketball players in the world of all time
• 1:06:10
  regardless. Okay, I apologize, but I just want to specify based on
• 1:06:14
  the context of what we're talking about. No, but, but that's kind of like where
• 1:06:17
  we're at with her, is that she's in the conversation of the best basketball players.
• 1:06:19
  Couldn't agree more. No, no, I want to make that abundantly clear. She's A'ja fucking
• 1:06:23
  Wilson. She is better than everyone on that court
• 1:06:27
  right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and like, more than anything, she's just
• 1:06:31
  such— she's a— she's one of the best two-way players we've ever seen. She's one
• 1:06:34
  of the best defenders and one of the best scorers. And we just don't— that's
• 1:06:36
  a, that's a very special combination of player. Very much so. Um, outside means she'd
• 1:06:40
  whooping ass. Oh, okay, there he is. See,
• 1:06:44
  we're all on the same page. We're all on the same page. All right,
• 1:06:47
  thank you, Isaiah. I appreciate it. Let's get to Media
• 1:06:51
  Corner. Yeah, because it's very important for everyone to know that
• 1:06:54
  I currently have a mild deal with Kelce.
• 1:06:58
  So Polymarket, you're the bad guys. Continue. You have a mild
• 1:07:02
  deal with Kelce? I do reads for them on my show. Okay, well good,
• 1:07:06
  we're talking about Polymarket. Yeah, Polymarket villains. LeBron James
• 1:07:10
  partners with Polymarket as latest athlete to enter the
• 1:07:14
  prediction market space. He revealed in a 60-second
• 1:07:18
  video to his X account Tuesday showing a commercial that features him stepping
• 1:07:21
  off an elevator after pressing the floor for sports. The caption reads, step inside
• 1:07:25
  Polymarket HQ, and features several retired athletes and celebrities such
• 1:07:29
  as Eli Manning, Rajon Rondo, Spike Lee, Alexander Daddario,
• 1:07:33
  Emily Ratajkowski, Derek Jeter, and others. This comes after stars
• 1:07:38
  like Giannis, Bryson DeChambeau, and Lionel Messi have all revealed
• 1:07:43
  deals with Kalshi. And Polymarket is
• 1:07:47
  the largest prediction market in the world. The platform allows people to trade
• 1:07:52
  on the outcomes of future events, including one that is live right now, which is
• 1:07:55
  whether or not LeBron will play with his son Bronny during the next season.
• 1:07:59
  Can't— like, this is like I already hated this. I hate all of
• 1:08:03
  this. I hate fucking all of this. I hate all of this.
• 1:08:06
  Hate it, hate it, hate it. I need— I
• 1:08:10
  need us to get back to fucking Earth. Okay. Can I ask— I'm going to
• 1:08:13
  ask a, like, genuinely serious question. Yes. And I will answer it.
• 1:08:18
  This feels to me— and so I guess I'm saying something
• 1:08:22
  I want to know if you agree with it or not. This feels to me
• 1:08:25
  like when, when, when we're talking about somebody like LeBron James, Bryson DeChambeau, Lionel Messi,
• 1:08:29
  The kind of money that these people have is like next level. Yeah. Um,
• 1:08:32
  they're some of the richest athletes playing. Yeah. This can't
• 1:08:37
  be about money. I— it's not. It can't possibly. And it's starting
• 1:08:41
  to freak me out. Yeah, me too. Because— thank you, thank you.
• 1:08:44
  Yeah, because like LeBron James has— like,
• 1:08:47
  I get that these guys, him, Tom Brady, they make stupid fucking decisions and
• 1:08:52
  they're like such attention hogs and I get it. Whatever. So things like this though
• 1:08:55
  My question is always one very, very specific thing. Why? Like,
• 1:08:58
  why is the purpose of this? Because the money— like,
• 1:09:02
  if— and if the money is like the amount of money it
• 1:09:06
  takes to be an undeniable amount of money for LeBron James, but he's already a
• 1:09:09
  billionaire, right? Should— is essentially should be like a billion dollars. It should be.
• 1:09:13
  Yes. So if it's that, like,
• 1:09:16
  that's scary. We should be scared. And if it's not
• 1:09:20
  because of money What is it about? You know what my issue—
• 1:09:24
  that I'm so confused. Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:09:27
  What's your issue? My issue is I don't know what this is for,
• 1:09:31
  but we already saw the precedent set with Giannis.
• 1:09:34
  And yeah, we're seeing Giannis doing commercials for, for Kalshi. Yeah, which he has
• 1:09:38
  all the right to do. But like, there was Kalshi bets
• 1:09:41
  on where Giannis will go, and Giannis was like all
• 1:09:45
  of a sudden a stockholder on Kalshi.
• 1:09:49
  Please make this make sense
• 1:09:53
  on how this is fucking legal. Did we know this is— this
• 1:09:56
  is— that's like 1919 Black Sox shit,
• 1:10:00
  but worse in my opinion. We have fully crossed into the
• 1:10:04
  threshold of like anything
• 1:10:07
  we ever thought was cheating or like around gambling
• 1:10:11
  before pales in comparison. I know, this is awful. This is the
• 1:10:15
  worst. It makes me feel actually like kind of,
• 1:10:19
  kind of, because did we not learn our— did
• 1:10:23
  we not learn our, our lesson with Bitcoin? Because this— no,
• 1:10:27
  because this money partnership gets them closer to team ownership.
• 1:10:31
  Does it? I'm, I'm trying to figure out, like,
• 1:10:35
  I mean, if the— if the— let's say we find out, and you might
• 1:10:39
  be right, Juanita, like, I— but if we find out this was,
• 1:10:42
  let's say, let's say he made a billion dollars off this deal, okay?
• 1:10:46
  And he's now worth $2 billion. Okay. Let's say he made it, which is— he
• 1:10:49
  didn't. He didn't make a billion with Polymarket. But let's say he made somebody.
• 1:10:53
  But let's say he did, right? Like, let's say he is now worth
• 1:10:57
  $2 billion. We just don't know it yet.
• 1:11:01
  That's not a meaningful difference between minority ownership.
• 1:11:05
  Like, he could be a minority owner and then work his way into majority ownership
• 1:11:09
  in the same level with $1 to $2 billion because he
• 1:11:13
  is LeBron James, the level of investment, the level of whatever else. He could work
• 1:11:16
  himself into. He's richer than Michael Jordan was when he bought
• 1:11:21
  into the Bulls. No question. I'm sorry, into the Hornets. Yeah. So that
• 1:11:25
  to me seems like, like it doesn't necessarily mean that Juanita is wrong,
• 1:11:30
  but that potentially means that there's a tie-in between ownership
• 1:11:34
  and the prediction markets, which is like bad.
• 1:11:39
  Well, that's not good. Like, we know— would we be surprised?
• 1:11:43
  But no, no, bad. Like, Yeah. And like, I don't— like,
• 1:11:47
  I would love to see more genuinely,
• 1:11:50
  like, like, meaningful, uh, Black ownership
• 1:11:54
  in sports. And like, tying it
• 1:11:58
  into like markets like this that are bubbles
• 1:12:02
  freaks me out. It freaks me the fuck out because like, listen, the, the valuations
• 1:12:07
  of teams are just crazy. We like— we hinted about it earlier.
• 1:12:11
  Artie Moreno just sold the fuck— his, his stake, not full stake,
• 1:12:15
  but majority stake. So I truly don't even know how much stake he's actually
• 1:12:18
  holding of the Angels, but he sold the majority stake for $4
• 1:12:22
  billion. Yeah. The Angels, the longest
• 1:12:26
  drought in playoffs in all of Major League Baseball, second most in all of professional
• 1:12:31
  major sports in the United States behind the Jets. A team that
• 1:12:35
  has no minor league system or infrastructure. A team
• 1:12:39
  that is, as of right now, a decade from competing with anyone
• 1:12:43
  else in Major League Baseball. They sold for
• 1:12:47
  $4 billion and not entirely.
• 1:12:51
  Again, the majority stake. Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:55
  I'm sorry. Please, for the love
• 1:12:58
  of God, make that make sense to me. Yeah, I like—
• 1:13:02
  I, I would love I would love for LeBron,
• 1:13:05
  I would love for Giannis, I would love for like Serena Williams
• 1:13:10
  and all these. I would love for these players to end up in meaningful
• 1:13:14
  ownership situations. But I— doing
• 1:13:18
  it in partnership with prediction markets,
• 1:13:21
  it's— it's bad. It is so dangerous.
• 1:13:25
  It's just— it's not gambling. Well, and Cody,
• 1:13:29
  What's going to happen is that as soon as the, as the
• 1:13:33
  scandal with, with prediction markets breaks
• 1:13:38
  and people are pinpointed and their fingers are pointed,
• 1:13:42
  are they pointing it at the Mark Cubans of the world?
• 1:13:45
  Are they pointing it at the white billionaires or are they pointing it at LeBron
• 1:13:48
  James? LeBron James. Every fucking time.
• 1:13:51
  100%. They're going to point it at the, at the Black
• 1:13:55
  players and the women. Who's Black? Who's Black? Who's Black and who's favorite?
• 1:13:58
  Female. The end. Let me remind you, somebody might be gay. I want you
• 1:14:02
  to think about— I want you to think about who is the only person you've
• 1:14:05
  ever heard of in our lifetime,
• 1:14:08
  maybe ever, that went to prison for insider
• 1:14:12
  trading? Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart.
• 1:14:17
  The one person that ever
• 1:14:21
  went to prison during that entire thing.
• 1:14:24
  Martha Stewart. Glad we got her.
• 1:14:30
  It's always— it's never going to be the white men. No.
• 1:14:34
  And I'm just nervous about where this is leading. I can
• 1:14:38
  only imagine. Yeah, where this is, because this shit's not legal.
• 1:14:41
  Polymarketing? No, like, it's not legal. No, it's legal.
• 1:14:45
  But in fairness, in fairness, and hear me out on this, it's not— it's
• 1:14:49
  not hear me out on this. It's just the fact is, is it any more
• 1:14:52
  crazy than hedge funds buying teams? That's all fucking gambling too.
• 1:14:56
  It's just public marketing. Well, it is because like that,
• 1:15:01
  again, the insider trading
• 1:15:04
  within hedge funds is also illegal, right? Yeah. But currently what
• 1:15:08
  we're seeing is LeBron James can partner with—
• 1:15:12
  you're right— Polymarket, and then there can be bets
• 1:15:16
  on what he's going to do. Yes. Which I sided with Giannis saying.
• 1:15:19
  No, no, you're right. I'm not saying that they don't don't do that with hedge
• 1:15:22
  funds, but they do at least try to hide it. Like, this is so out
• 1:15:25
  in the open. This is scary. It's unregulated. That's the worst part. And when—
• 1:15:29
  what happens when they do decide to regulate it? What happens when they do decide
• 1:15:32
  to crack down? Oh God, what is the Staples Center called? Crypto.com.
• 1:15:35
  Aren't they changing it back because crypto's already gone to hell? Like,
• 1:15:39
  Staples still the company? Staples the store? Yeah,
• 1:15:43
  yeah. I mean, I don't know if they're changing it back to Staples, but aren't
• 1:15:45
  they changing it from Crypto Arena? Because like, it was first I heard. I don't
• 1:15:48
  know. Like, I'm pretty sure that, like, because cryptocurrency has—
• 1:15:53
  and you— I couldn't tell a single fucking bro, like,
• 1:15:57
  8 years ago, I could not tell them I didn't want— they could not—
• 1:16:00
  I could not be convinced. And they were like, come on, come on.
• 1:16:04
  I mean this from the bottom of my heart. The dumbest fucks I
• 1:16:08
  knew were into crypto. That's why I never got into crypto. Apologies to anybody
• 1:16:11
  who was into crypto in our comments. Like, I understand, but at the end of
• 1:16:14
  the day, it was a— it's Like, it didn't— I can't keep falling for this
• 1:16:18
  shit. Remember, remember MTFs? Wait, were you into crypto?
• 1:16:22
  I hold a lot of crypto. Of course you fucking do. Oh no,
• 1:16:25
  we have a crypto growing. We gotta save you. And I have
• 1:16:29
  made over $10,000 from it. Okay, well— And
• 1:16:34
  I still have more crypto. And it's going up as we speak.
• 1:16:38
  There's this thing called
• 1:16:42
  Zcash. Please tell me more.
• 1:16:47
  I will tell you more, Mocha. Listen, it's almost 2x'd
• 1:16:51
  in the past like 3 months. Good. You know what that's called?
• 1:16:55
  Fucking— there are, there are, there are high interest.
• 1:16:59
  I bought, I bought a car off crypto. I bought
• 1:17:03
  my car with my crypto. It does have a nice— you cannot tell
• 1:17:08
  me That crypto is bullshit. Okay,
• 1:17:12
  this dude's never heard of a CD. That's the problem. This is
• 1:17:16
  the biggest problem, is that like everybody thinks crypto is the only way to invest
• 1:17:20
  money that like— that I actually have. I don't think that. I have other
• 1:17:24
  hands. He hit. Hey, listen, the guy hit. When you
• 1:17:28
  hit, you hit. Got out where the getting was good.
• 1:17:32
  I am dying. Either way, I do think you're a sucker.
• 1:17:35
  Either way, by the way, reap rewards. By the way, good for you,
• 1:17:39
  Logan. We're proud. No, I actually— I am very proud of you. And if I
• 1:17:42
  were to trust anybody to handle their crypto efficiently, it would be
• 1:17:46
  you. But believe me, believe me,
• 1:17:50
  I have tons of friends. Yes, tons of friends
• 1:17:54
  who are dumb about their crypto, who have been in it the same amount of
• 1:17:58
  time as me. Yeah, they are negative as fuck.
• 1:18:01
  I can bet. What about NFTs? Did you get an NFT?
• 1:18:05
  Yes, and NFTs, it's hilarious.
• 1:18:09
  I— my NFT portfolio was worth like
• 1:18:13
  $20,000 at its peak, and I didn't
• 1:18:17
  sell it, and I ended up selling it all for like $7,000.
• 1:18:22
  Okay, but how much you put in? How much you put in?
• 1:18:26
  Um, probably like $3,000. Good job. All right,
• 1:18:30
  that's a good— that's good, all things considered. That's good.
• 1:18:34
  But man, that bubble, that bubble went fast on that one. It was,
• 1:18:38
  it was the time. NFTs was crazy. NFTs was so dumb.
• 1:18:41
  I fucking love that Mocha's back. Yeah, I, I remember I
• 1:18:46
  was sitting at a dinner table with my dad and I was like, yeah,
• 1:18:48
  they're, they're worth like $20,000. She's like, sell it now,
• 1:18:53
  sell it now. I'm like, no, you always listen to that.
• 1:18:58
  All right. That's not my favorite part of this show. Yeah, that's really
• 1:19:02
  good shit. Listen, I am glad that you're— that
• 1:19:06
  crypto is working for you. And but I will say,
• 1:19:09
  I will say there is, there is a level of like,
• 1:19:13
  I mean, investment sort of savvy, right,
• 1:19:16
  that works in that space that just like does not work in
• 1:19:20
  a futures betting space. And it's just, it's, it's the— we're
• 1:19:23
  getting into like really shady. By the way, everyone in the chat is thrilled you're
• 1:19:27
  here for this conversation. I'm so thrilled.
• 1:19:30
  What— wait, throw up, throw up a— wait, what do we got for comments on
• 1:19:34
  Mocha? Uh, Maria, we definitely needed Mocha around for this combo. Koda— I— Cody,
• 1:19:39
  I loved NFTs. NFTs are for suckers. Oh my God,
• 1:19:43
  NFTs, man. Chance, uh, make 401s great
• 1:19:48
  again.
• 1:19:52
  Make 401s— oh, sorry, Isaiah, not Chance.
• 1:19:55
  No, no, that's the winner. That's the fucking winner, dude. That's funny as
• 1:19:59
  fuck. Um, listen, we got a little time. You want to do 5 minutes on
• 1:20:02
  Pop Culture Corner? Yeah, let's do it. All right, what do you got? What do
• 1:20:05
  you got for us today? Um, I'm not much. I will say I'm caught up
• 1:20:08
  in Lanterns, by the way. Yeah, holy shit, best show on TV. Yeah,
• 1:20:11
  we're big Lanterns guys. Oh, I think that
• 1:20:16
  the— I think that the last episode was like the best episode so far
• 1:20:19
  in terms of, um, in terms of like just like the—
• 1:20:24
  like my heart rate. Oh, I know, I get that. I will say though,
• 1:20:26
  episode 3 with the story of John Stewart, the way you talked about
• 1:20:31
  it, yeah, 100%. Yeah,
• 1:20:34
  because here's the thing, the first scene was the ring coming into John
• 1:20:37
  Stewart's father and he said he was afraid. I am— I paused
• 1:20:41
  and I said to Annie out loud, I know what they're fucking doing.
• 1:20:46
  Okay, hold on. If you haven't watched, um, Lanterns and you
• 1:20:50
  want to, I'm gonna ask Cody a question that might spoil it, so I don't—
• 1:20:54
  I don't want you guys to leave, but just in case Or you're not into
• 1:20:57
  it. Well, here's the thing. I don't know where they're going, what they're gonna draw
• 1:20:59
  from, but I know everything about Green Lantern lore. I have a theory about
• 1:21:03
  this specific thing that I don't think can come from lore. Let's hear it.
• 1:21:05
  I think that when the Lantern— because they don't— they clearly
• 1:21:09
  don't know what the fuck they're doing. They admit in the episode that they don't
• 1:21:13
  understand the nature of the Black American experience. No.
• 1:21:17
  Yes. They don't understand the difference between being Black American and being like a
• 1:21:21
  white guy in America. Um, and I think it's a bit of a shoddy business.
• 1:21:24
  She shows up with like a big diamond to be like, sorry guys, here you
• 1:21:28
  go, this will fix the problem, freaked you out. It seems to be very like
• 1:21:32
  they don't understand the, like, even like the human world
• 1:21:35
  or the setup. I think they— the Green Lantern
• 1:21:39
  showed up for John's mom.
• 1:21:43
  She had just gotten out of— like, she was— hadn't—
• 1:21:47
  we saw her get up Get out of the room and
• 1:21:51
  it shows up like almost immediately. John freaks out.
• 1:21:55
  Like, John Sr. freaks out, like, to a point where it's like, there's no way
• 1:21:58
  you thought this guy was a kid. He was scared in a level like he
• 1:22:01
  was. And I'm not in— but like, but the way they— the way they made
• 1:22:05
  it seem and the way they portrayed it made me go like, yeah,
• 1:22:09
  like an African-American being attacked by
• 1:22:12
  a green light. You're not hearing me. Okay, I'm so sorry. What I'm saying is
• 1:22:16
  he— it shows up, he's terrified. Yes. Mom turns
• 1:22:21
  out to be the one who is like, like fully
• 1:22:24
  on board with training him. Fully on, right? She has the far
• 1:22:28
  more Green Lantern personality. She deals with the
• 1:22:32
  Guardians. She deals with like, in some way, shape, or form,
• 1:22:35
  it like— and we never see a version of John Sr.
• 1:22:39
  that looks like somebody who would have been the Lantern. I would
• 1:22:43
  actually— I would agree with that. Right. But they did also say that the other
• 1:22:47
  candidates have shown like problems after
• 1:22:50
  the fact. Like Hal. They're talking about Hal. They hate
• 1:22:54
  Hal. Hal's the best. But the Guardians hate Hal. Well, that's their
• 1:22:57
  fault because they picked the best guy.
• 1:22:59
  Well, he really fucked up that mission
• 1:23:03
  in— in— for— yeah, he shouldn't have done that.
• 1:23:07
  He went out, got drunk at a titty bar, and then just like— no,
• 1:23:09
  I agreed with that part. It was the second part. Like, that was He fucked
• 1:23:13
  over John on that one. Yeah, I always agree with getting drunk at a titty
• 1:23:16
  bar. No, no, no, part one I'm on board with. I don't care if you
• 1:23:19
  have a power ring or not, you get drunk at a titty bar. Of course,
• 1:23:23
  yes. But that being said, but don't like fuck up an international like thing.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah, that's, that's the whole thing apparently with Green Lantern. You're not supposed to
• 1:23:31
  do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do think that it was always
• 1:23:35
  supposed to be Bernadette. So I think you might be right about that. That's a
• 1:23:38
  great theory. Um, can I tell you something that
• 1:23:42
  it's only getting more and more like, like reinforced?
• 1:23:46
  Sure. Kyle Chandler, your guy. My guy is the
• 1:23:50
  fucking best. He's the greatest actor alive. He's the greatest actor alive.
• 1:23:54
  I would say that except he's our Brando currently. Well, currently right
• 1:23:58
  now I'm on a big Matthew Rhys kick. Matthew Rhys.
• 1:24:01
  Matthew Rhys. Yeah. So he's nominated for 2
• 1:24:05
  different things at the Emmys this week. He's gonna be— he's nominated for The Beast
• 1:24:08
  in Me that he did with Claire Danes, which was— I didn't see it,
• 1:24:11
  but I heard about it. Incredible. He was amazing. Claire Danes is always great,
• 1:24:15
  but like, he was amazing. And he's in Widow's Bay, which is also— okay,
• 1:24:18
  so he's the guy from The Americans. Yes. Okay, I have not watched Widow's Bay.
• 1:24:22
  Keri Russell. But now I'm out of— yes, I know. Fucking do I
• 1:24:27
  know Keri Russell. Did you watch The Americans? Yes. Okay, I love Keri
• 1:24:31
  Russell. Not because of The Americans, but also because— so Matthew Rhys is really,
• 1:24:35
  really crushing right now. Dude, I gotta watch Widow's Bay. I, I've— I've
• 1:24:39
  been waiting. I know, I know. Yeah, I haven't got around to it.
• 1:24:43
  My girlfriend's scared of things. I'm scared of things. I'm more scared of
• 1:24:47
  things than anything. Like, I'm terrified. Comedy though, isn't it? She can watch Widow's Bay.
• 1:24:51
  I— if I'm— when I tell you I am the biggest— I hate gore,
• 1:24:53
  I hate jump scares, I hate whatever. There's a little bit of jump scares here
• 1:24:57
  and there. There's like whatever. No, she can watch it. I promise you she can
• 1:24:59
  watch it. Widow's Bay is sick. Okay, okay, I will
• 1:25:04
  watch Widow's Bay next. Okay, that is my next thing in my show. Yes.
• 1:25:07
  You hate gore but you're like a House of Dragons fan? Yeah, it's— thank
• 1:25:11
  you, that doesn't make fucking sense. Thank you, Loka.
• 1:25:14
  I— do you understand how often I watch that
• 1:25:18
  show like this? Like, the thing about the House of the Dragons, uh,
• 1:25:22
  there was— so, uh, Game of Thrones and House of Dragons, there was one
• 1:25:26
  time I got caught— I got caught slipping where
• 1:25:29
  I didn't know something gross was gonna happen. Yeah, and it traumatized me. Me.
• 1:25:32
  Which one? What was it? It was, um, Pedro Pascal and the mountain.
• 1:25:38
  Oh man, I have an eye phobia. Like, I, I have an eye phobia to
• 1:25:42
  begin with. Fucking broke. So that fucked up. Um, but like, I— that show
• 1:25:46
  is constructed in such a way that like I almost always know when I need
• 1:25:49
  to go like this. What— when watching Game of Thrones or
• 1:25:53
  House of the Dragon, all, all like it— let's encompass the entire 10-season
• 1:25:57
  arcs of everything. So far, including— I don't know, I didn't watch The Night
• 1:26:01
  of the Seven Kings. I heard it was good, but I didn't watch it.
• 1:26:03
  It's so good. I, I'm still heartbroken on how
• 1:26:07
  Game of Thrones ended, so I just have not given them the credit to go
• 1:26:10
  back. It's hard to forgive them, but it's— I hear what you're saying,
• 1:26:14
  but I haven't been willing. They're not even the same. But like, it's not even
• 1:26:18
  the same people making the show. I hear what you're saying. Well,
• 1:26:21
  you can't just say that and then be like, no, but I just have no
• 1:26:24
  reason. You know, I hear what you're saying. No.
• 1:26:27
  That's, that's stupid. I hear what you're saying. You hear what I'm saying? I hear
• 1:26:31
  what you're saying. Thank you. Moki hears what I'm saying. It's not made by
• 1:26:34
  the same people. It's the same universe. It's hard. Nautical history now.
• 1:26:39
  No, it's not. Hard to go back. Like, literally not. But isn't it?
• 1:26:42
  I know what the— no, it is, it is canonically connected. Thank you.
• 1:26:46
  Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying just because you know what's gonna happen—
• 1:26:49
  I'm not saying this is a perfect scenario in my mind.
• 1:26:53
  For somebody who's a comic book fan, it makes no sense, and it's just— it's
• 1:26:57
  fake news because you're perfectly fine with knowing specific
• 1:27:00
  canon going forwards. You know what I don't like is when you're making sense
• 1:27:05
  to poke holes into my perfect logic. No,
• 1:27:09
  but fuck you, fuck you. What I will say is
• 1:27:13
  I do have those moments when I'm watching House of the Dragon,
• 1:27:16
  I'm like, this is awesome, too bad it eventually turns
• 1:27:19
  to shit. Thank you, thank you. And too bad whatever
• 1:27:24
  this character is prophesying, but you feel like we'll turn to shit.
• 1:27:27
  I mean, I'm not— I'm not saying I'm right. It's not an unfamiliar— I'm just
• 1:27:31
  saying I agree. I also just— I think it's so—
• 1:27:36
  I think it's— I, I don't personally have an issue with knowing
• 1:27:39
  where something goes as long as it's like— I now, I want to go— you
• 1:27:43
  tell me if you're— if I'm wrong, uh, but I want to go fully
• 1:27:47
  back to Valyria. Like, Mocha, don't you kind of want to just like see Valyria?
• 1:27:51
  I want to see— of course, like the prime of like the dragons
• 1:27:55
  and the, and the, and the families in, in Old Valyria. Honestly, I want
• 1:27:59
  to go back and see it. I know what happens. I want to see it.
• 1:28:01
  I want to go the other way. You know what, I'm— I, I want them
• 1:28:04
  to fix season 7. I want season 8. All right,
• 1:28:08
  that's what I want. It's not happening, so just— I don't think it's not happening.
• 1:28:12
  I think it's only a matter of time before— I do too. He's going to
• 1:28:15
  die. Yeah, and that's when we're getting Season 8. No, we gotta
• 1:28:19
  fix this. That might be worse though. It wasn't his fault that they fucked it
• 1:28:22
  up in the first— although I do kind of think it was his fault.
• 1:28:24
  It was also his fault. Yeah, it was his fault because he didn't finish it.
• 1:28:26
  He was there. By the way, there's a— I love the theory that he— that
• 1:28:30
  that's how he wrote it. Like, in his head he was originally gonna have
• 1:28:33
  that as ending, and because it was like— exactly, now that everyone reacted
• 1:28:37
  the way they did, he's like, that wasn't my
• 1:28:41
  plan. Fuck you. Will say, and I've always said this,
• 1:28:44
  Bran was a much— like, in the books is like
• 1:28:48
  a way more like fleshed out character.
• 1:28:52
  Yeah, there's so much more lore to Bran.
• 1:28:55
  If the journey is good enough, I don't mind. I would love to get into
• 1:28:58
  that in season fucking 8. See, though, the Meek—
• 1:29:02
  if the journey is good enough, I don't know, I don't mind knowing the next—
• 1:29:04
  oh, fuck you, CeeLo. The ending is bad. I'm not gonna
• 1:29:08
  lie, that's That's a fucking bar. That's a bar.
• 1:29:12
  It's kind of like— it's like sex. It's like, you know what's gonna happen,
• 1:29:15
  you know, eventually. It can also be great, you know?
• 1:29:18
  That's what I'm saying. It doesn't need to just be end. It doesn't need to
• 1:29:21
  be fucking, don't stop.
• 1:29:24
  Wait, what? That was the ending of Sopranos. Got that? Thank you.
• 1:29:29
  He fucking got that. There's a couple moments where I'm like, damn it, I want
• 1:29:31
  Damon to conquer the planet. Yeah, I always have, but then We
• 1:29:36
  know how it ends. But we— thank you. See, can't watch it.
• 1:29:40
  We know how it ends. That's like my entire experience. I like your support Isaiah
• 1:29:43
  comments. But we know how it ends. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:29:47
  Thank you. You know what else? I can't do it. You know what else,
• 1:29:49
  Cody? Yeah. Something that people always know what's gonna happen.
• 1:29:53
  They, they know how this show ends. Fucking— that's a sagui
• 1:29:57
  that you can't be taught. Everybody knows
• 1:30:01
  how this show ends, but we do it the same every single time anyway.
• 1:30:05
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• 1:30:09
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• 1:30:12
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• 1:30:15
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• 1:30:24
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• 1:30:26
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• 1:30:29
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• 1:30:33
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• 1:30:37
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• 1:30:40
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