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Detroit Tigers Stay Gritty · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger's Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, Ay Detroit Tiger's Podcast. I'm Karen Steckley.
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  Speaker 1: We got Cody's David Hagen, we got Austin Jackson, and
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  Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: If our pre show meeting was any indication. How's it
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  Speaker 2: go with Fellas? What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Good man? Good?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? God to have Ajax? Haven't had Ajax here on
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  Speaker 4: on in the second Glad to have our man back
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  Speaker 4: in here.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm here, live in the flesh, baby, Let's
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  Speaker 3: get it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we are recording this on, like I guess for
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  Speaker 1: Cody and the rest of the and the Tigers, especially
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  Speaker 1: in Tigers fans, kind of like a breathing day, no no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no game today, a little bit, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a reprieve, but it gives us a chance, Cody, for
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  Speaker 1: the first time in a while, to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: reflect and and and look and look at like this
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  Speaker 1: team from a clear lens, not just reacting to a
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  Speaker 1: game or trying to talk about something that might be
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  Speaker 1: out of date because it happened the previous game or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: We are front and center right now, as is kind
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  Speaker 1: of the city of Detroit, Cody. Now, the baseball team's good,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in the second. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft is later tonight and the Pistons are taking
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  Speaker 1: over downtown with their first home playoff game since twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: trying to win. Here's a stat trying to win a
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  Speaker 1: playoff game in Detroit for the first time since nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy six, Like downtown Detroit, Downtown Detroit back when they
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  Speaker 1: played at the So so so. Yeah, So, what's what's
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  Speaker 1: the what's the we do we do team vibes, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: but like, what's what's the sports city vibe going on
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it's kind of funny to think about because
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  Speaker 4: we started the athletic in Detroit and oh I joined
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  Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. I think it had started twenty seventeen ish,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, we at the time, we had hired
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  Speaker 4: a lot of young writers and the thought was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we can have these guys kind of grow with the
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  Speaker 4: teams and once the teams are good, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: coverage will be good. And the teams were all awful
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  Speaker 4: for the first like four or five years. I guess
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  Speaker 4: the Pistons were okay, but they were just stuck in mediocrity.
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  Speaker 4: The Lions were a joke. The Red Wings were rebuilding,
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  Speaker 4: The Tigers were a joke and going through a rebuild
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  Speaker 4: that didn't exactly work as planned right away. So to
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  Speaker 4: see where it is now, where the Lions were maybe
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  Speaker 4: the coolest story in the NFL, or the Tigers were
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  Speaker 4: one of the biggest, biggest stories in baseball last fall
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  Speaker 4: and are now continuing to assert themselves as for real nombre.
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  Speaker 4: The Pistons were one of the best stories in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: They'll say, sorry, Red Wings, I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 4: on with Stevie y over there across the street, but
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  Speaker 4: the city and the teams have come a long way,
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  Speaker 4: really in a short period of time. It kind of
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  Speaker 4: happened all at once. And I'd always been told like,
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  Speaker 4: just wait, just wait until you see what Detroit's like
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  Speaker 4: when the teams are winning. Well, I've been able to
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  Speaker 4: see that. You know, the draft last year, you were
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  Speaker 4: up there for that here and how great that was,
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  Speaker 4: and the synergy between the teams is kind of unique.
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  Speaker 4: I guess some of that happens, you know when when
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  Speaker 4: you have the same ownership for two of the teams,
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  Speaker 4: but the way all the teams support each other, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure you see maybe to this degree in every market.
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  Speaker 4: So a hundred Tigers are going to be at the
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  Speaker 4: Pistons game Thursday night. They seemed really excited about it.
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  Speaker 4: They were watching the game in the clubhouse Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Good time to be following sports in this city, no doubt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And also too, you know how many teams that you
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  Speaker 5: can just walk right over to the stadium? Yeah, like that,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, that's that's pretty cool
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  Speaker 5: that that's how you know.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is together in that town. Man. I mean you
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  Speaker 3: can literally leave a baseball game and walk right over
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  Speaker 3: to the football stadium. That's pretty sweet.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we can debate them there to like publicly
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  Speaker 4: financing stadiums. We'll say that for a different different podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: And I love it, But I do like having all
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  Speaker 4: the stadiums downtown. Go somewhere like Milwaukee where I'm having
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  Speaker 4: to take an uber out to the field and like
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  Speaker 4: it's just not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I have done that before us I've
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  Speaker 1: done the football to a basketball game. It's pretty great.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty great, Cody. You know, you know what else
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  Speaker 1: was pretty great yesterday? I think it actually merits a
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  Speaker 1: couple of minutes here, Reese Olsen, it's pretty dang good,
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  Speaker 1: pretty dang good. On Tuesday, made it into the eighth inning,
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  Speaker 1: only allowed two hits, seven strikeouts. I'm getting random text
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  Speaker 1: from Ranger fans being like, who is this guy? Or
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  Speaker 1: the ones that noball They're like, man, I really like
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  Speaker 1: this guy. You know, the change up was working for him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the Reese Olsen that we had been like waiting to
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  Speaker 1: kind of brag about because of like we hold him
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  Speaker 1: in that high of esteem. Uh, and not to mention
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  Speaker 1: it's the Padres damn good baseball team and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that that was a rubber match. I couldn't imagine anything
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  Speaker 1: better for our boy, Reese.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, keep trying to tell everybody Resultsan is so underrated.
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  Speaker 4: Resultsan can be really good. We didn't see this first
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  Speaker 4: few starts. He's a guy who has to be commanding,
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  Speaker 4: who has to be kind of painting that X across
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  Speaker 4: the strike zone, and he did that where really more specifically,
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  Speaker 4: he was just living on the bottom rail. Change ups
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  Speaker 4: and sliders all day, but the command was more the
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  Speaker 4: command we're used to seeing you was spinning the ball
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  Speaker 4: like crazy. I think it was, you know, maybe the
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  Speaker 4: best I've ever seen the changeup, which can be a
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  Speaker 4: really good pitch. The slider was there too, And although
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  Speaker 4: the Padres are a good team, they did come into
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  Speaker 4: town a little banged up, and I think especially against Reese,
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  Speaker 4: they had a really aggressive approach, but they were kind
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  Speaker 4: of flailing and cast in the bats and they made
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of hard contact. But in a way
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  Speaker 4: they kind of helped Reese out too, and he was
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  Speaker 4: able to adapt and take advantage of that aggressive approach,
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  Speaker 4: get some quick outs, roll you know, into the sixth
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  Speaker 4: and seventh inning with a little pitch count, and.
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  Speaker 3: He's stupor he likes super deceptive too, like he's a.
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  Speaker 5: Guy like I I hate facing guys like that because
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  Speaker 5: it's like that he has a little hitch in his
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  Speaker 5: in his delivery and it's like you're trying to time
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  Speaker 5: that up and then boom, like the ball kind of
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  Speaker 5: explodes on you a little bit, and it's like coming
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  Speaker 5: out of that same window, Like every every pitch he's
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  Speaker 5: throwing is like coming out of this window. But you're
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  Speaker 5: still kind of caught up on the wind up, like
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  Speaker 5: trying to time that up. And like when he's when
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  Speaker 5: he's he's a guy, Like when he's on you, I
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  Speaker 5: mean you got to tip your hat because, like you said,
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  Speaker 5: he's living at the bottom of the zone. Everything is
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  Speaker 5: coming in looking the same, so you're you're really not
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  Speaker 5: picking him up. This guy is he's nasty, he's not
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  Speaker 5: a fun guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you to face when you're not really feeling comfortable,
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  Speaker 3: and then he comes in and you're like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 3: here we go.
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  Speaker 5: You got this little funky hitch in there, and it's
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  Speaker 5: just like you think.
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  Speaker 3: You think he's a guy that you should be able
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  Speaker 3: to burrow up. Like you said, they hit him hard
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times, but it was nothing that they
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  Speaker 3: could really do to really cause any damage off of Austin.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I think we're starting to see a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more across the league is like the return of
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  Speaker 4: shorter or smaller pitchers. Some of these guys are giants, right,
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  Speaker 4: and they stride way down the mound and the extension
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  Speaker 4: is crazy, but I think they're figuring out like the
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  Speaker 4: arm slot from from a shorter guy. Reese barely strides.
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  Speaker 4: I think it probably just comes out from like a
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  Speaker 4: funky pocket. Was there avery guy you faced who was
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  Speaker 4: like a little bit smaller but like just really deceptive
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  Speaker 4: Alex cop.
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  Speaker 3: That's who It kind of reminds me of a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's something about that delivery, like it kind of
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  Speaker 5: loads you to sleep a little bit. And like you said,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't like a big stride. It was like he
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  Speaker 5: would he would take his step and he would just
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  Speaker 5: put his foot down and then the ball would just
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  Speaker 5: kind of come out of come out of nowhere. Guys
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  Speaker 5: like that, they were just tough because the timing of
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  Speaker 5: it is, I mean, hitting is all about timing. So
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  Speaker 5: when a guy is messing up your timing like that,
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  Speaker 5: when they got that short arm slap, the ball kind
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  Speaker 5: of gets on you and everything looks the same. You know,
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  Speaker 5: everything looks the same until it gets to the plate
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  Speaker 5: and then you're you know, you scratch here, going back
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  Speaker 5: to the dug guy like, I don't I don't understand
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  Speaker 5: why I'm not seeing this ball and it's all in
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  Speaker 5: the delivery.
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  Speaker 3: It's just super deceptive. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I did have, you know, specific the Tuesday's game and
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  Speaker 1: some of the stuff that Austin was saying about about Reese,
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  Speaker 1: I am a little curious, like with there with it
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  Speaker 1: being the day game after a couple of night games, Austin, Like,
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  Speaker 1: when you got a guy who's it doesn't necessarily have
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  Speaker 1: to be the same you know, picture characteristics that that
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  Speaker 1: Reese was showing. But just like any guy who's dialed in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: starting on the mound, Like right away you figure out
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  Speaker 1: he's dialed in. It's like you played two nights ago,
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  Speaker 1: and you played last night and now like and now
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  Speaker 1: it's the you know, the get out game, it's the
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  Speaker 1: rubber match or whatever. Mentally, what is that like when
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you get less sleep, your routine,
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  Speaker 1: your routine is compressed, you know, especially the Tigers specifically,
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  Speaker 1: like all these games that they have been playing, but
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  Speaker 1: like going going into it and a a in a
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  Speaker 1: game and a situation like that where you like, it's
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  Speaker 1: you might not be awake the previous like twenty four
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  Speaker 1: hours earlier, but now you're going up against a guy
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  Speaker 1: who who's got you on pins and needles, Like, what's
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  Speaker 1: that like?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean a lot of it, I feel like
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  Speaker 5: it's you don't really focus Obviously everybody's tired, everybody's dealing
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  Speaker 5: with the same amount of sleep or you know, lack
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  Speaker 5: up thereof. But to me, it's more of the day
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  Speaker 5: game is is more about how quick can you get
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  Speaker 5: get the motors spinning, you know, if you go out
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  Speaker 5: there expecting to just you know, kind of play the
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  Speaker 5: same game or keep that same pace that you had
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  Speaker 5: on a night game when you have plenty of rests,
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  Speaker 5: when you've had all your warm ups, if you got
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  Speaker 5: to go into the cold to the hot tub, you
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  Speaker 5: got to eat, and you got to sit back and
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  Speaker 5: relax and watch your favorite TV show. As opposed to
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  Speaker 5: a day game, Hey, you're jumping right up, you're heading
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  Speaker 5: probably to the cage, You're trying to get your warm
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  Speaker 5: up in, you're trying to eat, you try to do
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  Speaker 5: all that things, and then you got to go out
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  Speaker 5: there and face a guy like.
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  Speaker 3: Reese and it's just it's not fun.
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  Speaker 5: It's where it's something where for me, I had to
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  Speaker 5: do a lot of my studying the night before. After
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  Speaker 5: the game, I had to go in there and study
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  Speaker 5: this guy. I had to watch his day games, watch
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  Speaker 5: you know, watch how he pitched the opposing team in
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  Speaker 5: those day games, watch the bad swings, watch the good swings,
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  Speaker 5: and I tried to, you know, just pick up any
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  Speaker 5: information I could from that from the you know, his
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  Speaker 5: previous game or like I said, his day games, because
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  Speaker 5: that's where you're gonna get all your information from a
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  Speaker 5: lot of these pictures, you know, they might be different
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  Speaker 5: from game to game. So for me, it was about
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  Speaker 5: doing a lot of that studying before the night before.
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  Speaker 5: That way, when I got up in the morning and
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  Speaker 5: you know, get did my normal routine, you know, got
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  Speaker 5: all my eating game, try to get my lift in.
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  Speaker 5: It was about, Okay, how can I stick to that
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  Speaker 5: plan that I that I was, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 5: get the day before and go out and apply that
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  Speaker 5: to the game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's it's one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: like maybe kind of gets lost over the course of
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: a season, just like watching the games, just how much
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  Speaker 1: that just like changes things, you know, and and and
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the advantages I think I'm saying this.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea Cody what their record is in
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  Speaker 1: day games, but like when you got a starting five
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  Speaker 1: like the Tigers, do I feel like that might that
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  Speaker 1: that'd be an advantage on any day, especially when there's
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  Speaker 1: again a compressed timeline there. So maybe something maybe just
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  Speaker 1: a little nugget that we can file away for later
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  Speaker 1: and see see if there's any merit to that hypothesis
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  Speaker 1: specific to to this team. Uh, we're gonna get to
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  Speaker 1: some some some RT about the Tigers and like what
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  Speaker 1: we really think about them. But first a word from
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad they have for root for the Tiger
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  Speaker 3: fan fol sports that work. Tiger's las Tigers down.
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  Speaker 4: The Tiger's hearing are eight and six in day games.
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  Speaker 4: So nothing crazy. Well, it's really been that CA America
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  Speaker 4: Park for their nine and three. For whatever reason, they've
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  Speaker 4: been money at home so far this year.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah they have. They have been absolutely money.
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  Speaker 1: That's a ten and three overall record, I believe at
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  Speaker 1: home and and that and that kind of leads me to, uh,
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit of a thought exercise I think
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  Speaker 1: on a on a Thursday, Cody and Austin is that
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like, you know, the whole like
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  Speaker 1: gritty Tigers thing that was like the mantra last year
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  Speaker 1: and that was cool because you'll never say die attitude
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  Speaker 1: and and like all these kind of fun things. But
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  Speaker 1: it's like, is that kind of stuff like sustainable? No,
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  Speaker 1: And eventually you gotta have like some dogs, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I have some players, and you gotta like actually
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  Speaker 1: stack wins and you gotta be certain level of dominant
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  Speaker 1: to be one of these like actual good teams. That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get rid of the whole like gritty
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  Speaker 1: you know, montrel together, but like that, you gotta move
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  Speaker 1: on from that a little bit. And so I think,
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  Speaker 1: actually know what I'm gonna say. I know, I know
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  Speaker 1: as of now, as of now, as we're twenty five
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  Speaker 1: games into the season, that they are like like actually
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  Speaker 1: like a dog team, Like they are a good team.
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  Speaker 1: There are so many numbers that it's like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're like one of the American League leaders teams. Like well,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go buy record. What's the record fifteen and ten?
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  Speaker 1: Who has who is that number one?
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  Speaker 2: Yuess?
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  Speaker 1: It is tied with the New York Yankees. What's their
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  Speaker 1: run differential? It's plus thirty is that number one?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's one behind the Yankees who are plus thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: All right, And then you just look at any I
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  Speaker 1: could just read off a million stats. But they're starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching is like top two or three or four, and
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  Speaker 1: basically every standard category in the American League. They're hitting
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  Speaker 1: is among the tops in the American League in various categories.
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  Speaker 1: And they are without their number one center fielder, their
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  Speaker 1: number two centerfielder, their number three center fielder, they're number
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  Speaker 1: one third basement.
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  Speaker 2: That's two of the same people there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's okay, And I don't and Riley Green has
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  Speaker 1: not had a near season to his caliber so far.
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  Speaker 1: Colt Keith obviously has not had a sophomore surge to
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  Speaker 1: this point. There's obviously positive so I'm not just trying
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  Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, everything's negative. Yet they're still good.
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  Speaker 1: They have had a lot of great production from guys.
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  Speaker 1: Total Simmacinstry bias at times, of course, but like the point,
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  Speaker 1: I just think they're actually like a good team, like
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  Speaker 1: actually like good like top among the top of the
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  Speaker 1: conversation in the American League are the Detroit Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five games in. I'm comfortable saying.
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  Speaker 3: That I don't. I don't think it's a bad thing though,
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  Speaker 3: the gritty, the grit, the gritty Tigers, man, I kind
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  Speaker 3: of like that that sounds I like that, But I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you go away from who you are, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you what got you there? Right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: don't try to start being something that you're not.
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  Speaker 5: This this is the team that they have that grit, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I think that that is part of the DNA of
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  Speaker 5: this team.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is what's gonna carry them through in
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  Speaker 3: those tough, those tough months, those hot days, like hey,
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  Speaker 3: who's who wants it more? Who's gonna come out here
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  Speaker 3: and grind that bats? What picture is gonna come up
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  Speaker 3: here and is gonna you know, hey, here's my stuff,
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  Speaker 3: Let's get it. Like that's the type of team that
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  Speaker 3: I see this team being.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't really think that they need to go
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  Speaker 5: away from it because it's worked. Like I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 5: not messing with nothing. If it works, if we gritty,
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  Speaker 5: we gritty, I don't care if we would. And they've
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: been able to stick with some of the best teams
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: in the league right now, Like if you watch some
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: of the games that they've lost, I mean, they're right
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: there in the games because they have that grit. That's
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: what they're gonna need to push them past some of
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: those good teams.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Is that that grittiness. You know, they don't have this
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: uh you know La Dodgers type lineup to where you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: you got guys that at one through nine can come
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: up and uh, you know, cause some damage. But they
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: have the type of team. I think they can manufacture runs,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: get walks, get guys over the second hit behind the runner.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: That's the type of team that that's scary come late
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: in the season, especially playoffs.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: If that if they establish that and keep that DNA,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: it works. It works, It works every time. I remember
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: when we played against the Giants in the in the
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: in the World Series. I mean on paper, yeah, like
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: we were the La Dodgers, but they they did the
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: small things and that's why we got well. Really like
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: they played the game the way it was supposed to
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: be played and we were relying on you know, Miguel
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Cabrere to hit that three run home run and Prince
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: to come up and hit that three run homer, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: we just didn't play that that type of the type
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: of baseball at that time to win the game.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: And so I like it, man. I think they stay
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: with it because it works.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: And I mean, if these guys go out and try
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: to be something they're not. Nobody's gonna like. That's not
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: that's not what got those guys there. That's not why
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: they're where they are right now.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: It's because they still carried that same like, oh, y'all
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: don't believe in us, y'all, don't y'all don't think that
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: we get like they had. They're playing with like a
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: sense of sense of urgency. And I like to see that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: I like to see when they go out there, it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: like everybody has a plan when they step up to
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: the plate.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: The pitchers are like, let's go. I like that. I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: love that grip from them.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think you guys are onto something
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: that That's what continues to impress me. Like there were
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: times last year we kind of joked about, like, oh,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: the grit in the culture because every team thinks it's
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: gritty and every team thinks it has a good culture.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: But like, there is a little bit more science to
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: what they are doing than that. They are built to
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: thrive in that place style. We know how often they
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: chase matchups, So when you see someone come off the bench,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: it's not just them being gritty, it's them gaining a
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: mathematical edge on their opponent. The things they're doing pitching wise,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I think would go over most of our heads, like
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: from what's happening upstairs with the analyst down to the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: pitching coaches like Chris Fatter and then translating it to
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the player. I think they've gotten really advanced in some
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: of the stuff they're doing that I'm not even going
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to try to explain right now. And you put all
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: that together, like we've talked about the quality of it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: bat is just light years better than it was two
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: years ago, up and down the order, seeing more pitches
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: than the first inning of games than anyone in the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: American League. They take their walks now, the strikeout rate
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: is a bit high, but like they're may pitchers work.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: They reminded me of like the Raised teams from two
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: three years ago, where they just don't give you anything,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like if you're gonna beat the Tigers, you're gonna have
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to earn it. And we've now seen them do this
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the last two months of last year, the first twenty
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: five games of this season. We've seen it long enough
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: that it's not an anomaly by any means.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the the way, like Iharm said, agree with
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like what Austin was going there. The way, Like the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: analogy that I would run is that, like, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we'll give credit to the Dan Campbell Lions for kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of like bringing grit into like just everyday conversation for
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the city uh front Center like he did uh and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: continues to do because they don't change. But at the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: same time, Penay Sewell goes from being a talented young
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: player to one of the best right tackles in football.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Saint Brown goes from being a talented young player to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: being one of the best receivers in football. So it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like they're still they still have but they also like
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the players developed into being like just like good players,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: not just like tryhards to for lack of a better phrase.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And I think I think that's what the Tigers are
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: on the on the path to doing. We all know
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be valleys in this season, so like let's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: not pretend like there won't be. But at the same time,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: like this is they're in a position to where like
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: everything is moving in the direction where you can do
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the try hard stuff combined with the talent, combined with
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the smart coaching and and and that's a lethal trifecta
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a that's a big reason.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Why despite like all the worries that that we had
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: about this team coming in like haven't manifested itself because
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: maybe we didn't get enough give enough credit to those
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: three things working in unison and I and I actually and.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I actually do think that's kind of beautiful to watch.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's like I think it's it's one of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the most aesthetically pleasing styles of baseball, uh because again
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and like you have the the first to third, the second,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the home and and then like the pitching is you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: is obviously outstanding a lot of times, like it's one
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it makes me look forward to the game that much more,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: not because like, oh, we'll see if they can win.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It's like they're gonna do the twenty seven outs thing,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you know, play all the twenty seven outs, and you're
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: gonna get smart managerial and coaching decisions, and you got
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: guys that are stars to superstars, slash up and comers,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and and it it it's it's hard. Not every team,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: not every administration like has the patience to try to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: do that. Tiger's been pretty patient over the last ten years.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: This Gody alluded to earlier. Maybe two patient at times.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a lot of things are manifesting
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: itself in this uh uh fifteen to ten start another
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: ramm sad.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I saw.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: They're they've won ten straight. When they score first, you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: it's just like little little things like that. You talk
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about the little things Austin, little things like that, getting
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the lead and then you're pitching, holding it and then
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: obviously you know, adding to it offensively. One of our
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: favorite phrases, Cody, everything affects everything.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the urgency.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: It's the urgency right away from from the first pitch.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: It's the urgency that I see that they play with.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: It's just I don't know, it's it's watching the game.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I'm just like this team they're trying to get it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: It's almost like they don't they don't they don't care
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that it's twenty five games in. They're not thinking like that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: It's like, we are going to put our foot on
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: the gas and we're not gonna let up for twenty
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: seven outs and at the end of the game, Hey,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: if we lose this game, you're the other team is
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: going to be too tired to celebrate. They're like man
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: and again and then a day. I mean, I love that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I love the sense of urgencies that they're playing with.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Hopefully they can sustain that, you know, throughout the long season.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: And obviously you know you're dealing with injuries and that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: just things that are going to happen in the game
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: of baseball. But you know, I love that they're able
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: to take guys and plug them in in different.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: That's that grit, that's grid here. Take me from catcher
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: and put me into the field, put me in left.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's gonna work the whole season,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: but I mean that that that just goes to show
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: you that this team is willing and not only just
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: like the players are willing to do whatever it takes
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: to win, they want to get back there.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You can see it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Well, doing whatever it takes to win.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: That's something that again, acknowledge that it's generally speaking, a cliche,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: but then when you see like actual examples of it,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you have no choice but to acknowledge it. And that's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that's Javier Bias right now, Cody. Javier Bias is a
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: guy that, like we don't have to go into the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: history of what's going on in his Tiger's tenure. But
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: no one's ever questioned that he plays hard. No one
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: ever questions that he that he that he comes to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: play damn near every day.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You know that injury that he had last season, that
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: was one of the more shocking things. You don't see
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Hobby just like not playing, you know. And then I've
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: always on the play centerfield my whole life.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: All right, cool.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Stakes, bro, Like yo, I'm sure you want to the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: obvious starting picture of your whole life too, you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like whatever, h And.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Then and now he's your regular center fielder.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: We've talked about this a little bit, but we had
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: we had a pretty dark good play from Hobby or Bias.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: He earned the Hobby nickname on that one. And we're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: gonna play here, and then we'll get Austin since that's
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: his old stomping grounds, to give us his reaction right afterwards.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not shabby for a guy who had never
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: really played center field in the major leagues before.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Pretty similar high fly ball, deep right center field.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Baya is going back, still going at the running track,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and Hobby Bayas can't run it down out.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: There, dude, I mean that does not look like a
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: guy who has not been secretly out there taking flat
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: balls on his day out.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I mean listen, like, not only did he make that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Look like that was just a casual, you know, fly
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: ball over his head, but if you if you notice
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: that he took a peak like that, that's something that
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: you don't see from guys that haven't played that position.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: They will run full speed, full steam into that wall.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But Hobby, he took a peak. This is a he is.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: He's a baseball player.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: When I played with Hobby in two thousand and fifteen,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: I believe, and at times I was just super amazed
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: at what he was able to do on a baseball field.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Like I've seen him make that that over over the
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: shoulder catch playing shortstop before playing second before, Like that's
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that's that's easy to him. He makes the game look
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: easier and at times he probably is one of the most,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: if not the most athletic dude on the field. Have
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: you seen what this guy is able to do? Slide
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: into a base nobody's doing that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Like this is that This is an athlete right here,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: this is a baseball player. You put him anywhere on
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: that field and he's going to make play.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: He's a he's a playmaker. He needs that. That's what
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: he needs. He needs that excite. That's that's what gets hot.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: That was that is what gets him going. When he's
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: able to just use his athleticism, just use his instincts
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: and go out there and make a play. This guy,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: he doesn't I don't think that you need to necessarily
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: worry about about him. I think he is a guy
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: that could be like a key here Dandez type type,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: you know. And that's not a knock. That's more of
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: a compliment to his his athleticism and just the type
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: of baseball player he is. He's able to go out
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: there and make plays look easy. That looked easy to me.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: That that looked that didn't even look challenging.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: It looked like, give me something else next time, hit
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: it out so I can drive it. You know what
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean he didn't make it look fun still,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like you know, just like you know, like catch it
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and then kind of like go into the wall like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: no big deal whatever, because you're it's a good point
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of to say, like he's made that catch middle endfield,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, probably thousands of times in his career. But
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: there was ever like a wall that was like that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he was approaching as he made that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Uh has made that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: That's what That's what you see elite outfielders do. Are
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: just guys who've been playing outfield their whole life. We
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: know to take a peek, you know, we know we're
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: coming up on what we're another that. You know, the
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: balls that are hitting really well. So when you when
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you when you take that step back and you start
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: running and you've been running for a while and you
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: take that peet, that's something that you see. Guys that
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: that that do that have been playing outfield for a
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: long time and for him to just step in there
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: and do that, I mean, I'm telling you, this is
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: a baseball player man is like the Tigers, they they're
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: lucky to have a guy like that that they can say,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: you know what, at this point in his career, we
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: can move him around and we're not gonna we're not
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: gonna take this drop off.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, watching plays like that, it's almost like bettersweet for
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: me because Tigers fans just haven't really got to appreciate
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the best version of hobby bias. They haven't seen the
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: best version of hobby bias that much, Let's be honest.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: But when it's there, man, it's like you said us
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: like it's special. He's a special baseball player.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: This feel.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: His acumen for the game is I think top five
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball. But because of his offensive woes
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and some of the other frustrations, like he just hasn't
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: really been embraced in Detroit. We've said it before. It's
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: a testament to him for being willing to move around,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: adapt to a new role at this stage in his career.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Finally has helped the team win. There's still no real
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: evidence like that the power is still there in his bat,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: but for him just to be productive, to have fun,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: to get a little bit of recognition from the fan base,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I think has been cool to watch through these first
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: twenty five games.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: To have an outfield of green and left, hobby and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: center and then Jay Hennon right is.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: How you drew it up.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But justin Henry mLOY is our fan dual player spotlight.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure we've done it before when he first.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Got called up, but I have like a specific reason
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: why I wanted to make them the spotlight is that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: look organizations manager slash coaches whatever kind of tell you
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what they think of players with their actions, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and they had been avoiding playing Justin Henery malloy in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the field all that much. He actually make sure I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: have this correct. For all the talk of him like
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: learning first base, Cody hasn't played a single ending of
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: first base, especially Torrelson obviously a big part of that,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know, for the for the record, but Tuesday, for
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the first time we saw Justin Henry mLOY start a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: game and complete a game when starting in the field
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: first time. The l yeah, well that that is fair.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But like he and he also had had a home run, like, yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it was a it was. It was good to see
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: because I want to see him get some run just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: because I want to I want to know, like I'm
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: not behind the scenes, I want to know if this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: is a viable option for the team in general, especially
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: if that bat develops into what it you know, potentially
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: could be a valuable asset to the team. So Jess
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• 30:36
  Speaker 2: We're getting to the we don't know how much longer
• 30:39
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• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun to watch.
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• 30:51
  Speaker 3: So I'm just glad to.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: See j Hann hit the ball Karan like I I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: think that people know like I'm a big proponent and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: like like fan of his, but get the best version
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: of Jahn to even start the conversation of oh, how
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: often can we play him in the field, He's got
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: to be the best version of himself at the plate.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: We know the disciplined at bats. I think you know
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: early on had had a couple of calls go against him.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I think he started coming out of his approach a
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: little bit, ran into a hanging slider, crushed it like
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: a good header should had a big double down the
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: line that brought in a run. Like I think those
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: things just to spark him a little bit. A jhn
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: should talked about he pinch hit him over Andy a
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: banie is a couple of times just kind of an
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: effort to get Jayhen going. And there are a couple
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: guys who are going to be back from the injured
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: list eventually, Matt Vierling hopefully sometime in May. A little
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: less queer what the timeline is like for Manuel Margo,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: but that could be a decision point. These guys are
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: both right handed hitting outfielders. For Jahen to stay on
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the roster and be that top of the order guy
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: he can be, he's got to hit the baseball, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: so good to see him do that for the first
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: time in a minute. He was I think two for
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: twenty before its home run.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: The week he makes my wife's list, he starts hitting.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: So just for the record, you know, I'd like to
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: see him, you know, have an approach of maybe staying
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: up the middle, the right center a little bit, letting
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  Speaker 6: that back, letting that ball travel, see the ball a
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  Speaker 6: little long, because he's he has the.
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  Speaker 3: Hands to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes he gets a little pool happy, which
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's it in this day and age of baseball,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's the home run is very valuable. But
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  Speaker 5: I think for him staying up the middle and right center,
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  Speaker 5: I think that allows that ball to travel in his bat,
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  Speaker 5: to stay in the zone a lot longer and for
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  Speaker 5: him to see the ball a lot longer, because I said.
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  Speaker 3: He hit a double down the line? Was it down
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  Speaker 3: the right field line? Right? That was? That was beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: You know that those are the type of swings that
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  Speaker 5: get you locked in and then like you said, you
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  Speaker 5: hanging slider, you do what you're supposed to. It is
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  Speaker 5: some of the best I always is Miguel Cobert because
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  Speaker 5: for for how big he was in his power to
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  Speaker 5: see the way that he was able to let the
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  Speaker 5: ball travel and hit the ball to the opposite field.
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  Speaker 3: That that's that's the sign of a good hitter.
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  Speaker 5: You can't get a guy out like this that's able
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: to take a pitch middle, middle end and and drive
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  Speaker 5: it to right center and he has enough power to
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: be able to hit that that right center field gap.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, I think that that would be something
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  Speaker 5: that you know, he would have to buy into.
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  Speaker 3: And then from a defensive standpoint, just kind of easing
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  Speaker 3: him in and letting him.
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  Speaker 5: Feel comfortable, because I mean, if he wants to stay
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  Speaker 5: on this roster, he's gonna have to be able to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, hit, but also he needs to be able
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: to play some defense, and they need to be able
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to rely on him out there and not be a
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: liability if he if he wants to stay on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, that's that's very well put Austin. I like
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  Speaker 1: to see more of that too.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The reason he's gonna be playing in the field. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: want spent a couple minutes on this because we got
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Austin here, we gotta get his expertise is that you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: tightness is the best way to put a cody with
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: carry Carpenter's hamstring is that we're like officially diet.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there is, but like, uh, he's gonna be obviously
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you avoided an il stint, so but he's not gonna
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: be playing every day, and when he does play, he's
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be dhing. So I asked you, Austin, if you
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  Speaker 1: have tight sore whatever kind of word you want to use,
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  Speaker 1: not pull hamstring? What is how much of a thing
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: is that in the box slash like you know, running
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  Speaker 1: around the bases or whatever, like, what kind of extra
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: prep are you doing to keep it keep it good?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Like we just kind of explain as best you based
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on your experience, what kind of carry Carpenter's going through
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  Speaker 1: with a tight or sore uh front leg hamstrings his
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  Speaker 1: right hamstring, so front leg hamstring at the play.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it affects everything. I had a pulled or
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  Speaker 3: a a tight quad my left my lead leg.
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  Speaker 5: In two thousand and six, twenty seventeen, And you don't
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  Speaker 5: realize how much that that front leg, how much it's absorbing,
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  Speaker 5: absorbing that that force, that's that's that's stopping everything. So
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: when when you have an element like that, it's it's tough.
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  Speaker 5: And then you start compensating, is which is what I did,
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  Speaker 5: and you lose some power.
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  Speaker 3: You lose power. But the thing that you have to
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: you have to almost reinventure your your swing a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You have to start shortening up. You know, you can't
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  Speaker 3: take the power swing that you once had when your
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: legs felt good. You know.
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  Speaker 5: A big thing for me was keeping you know, it wrapped,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: and keeping compression on it and making sure I was
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: getting all my work each and every day. Sometimes even
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: during the game, I would have to go get a
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: stretch or get kind of like a rub to make
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: sure that the tightness was out of there.
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  Speaker 3: But it affects everything. It affects your swing, It affects
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the you're able to get out of the box. It
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: affects the first step, you know, it affects everything. So
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: it is tough. It's not something that you can't play with.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: I was obviously able to play with it, but it
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: affects me more mentally because I was thinking about it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I was thinking about, you know, certain pitches
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  Speaker 5: that were thrown that I could normally turn on and
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I would miss them, you know, so mentally that it
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: was a hurdle trying to get over that. But once
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I realized, Okay, I just have to change up my
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: approach a little bit. I have to I have to
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: really stay short with my mechanics. I have to be
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: really quiet with my with my legs obviously because you
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: know I'm hurt. So, I mean, you're you're dealing with it,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: but but you know, in your brain, you're like, man,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I can't get on it like I used to.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So you're having to change your approach a little bit.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: But but but from you know, off the field, as
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: far as you know, making sure you have the proper
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: you know, wraps for it. You know you're getting the
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: proper things in the training room before those are all
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: things that are that'll keep you going and eventually you'll
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: start to come out of it, you know, because you
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: have some of the best trainers in the world, so
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: you know they're.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Helping you through it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: But it is it is tough because it wears on
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: you a little bit mentally when you know that you're
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  Speaker 5: not your one hundred percent itself out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's equal parts worrisome and optimistic that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: he can you know, pull through it and hopefully, uh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you know, maintain a level of consistency at the play.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I will say, just like I tests, Cody and I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: already talked about it, but eye test, it didn't look
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like anything different at the play. I'm sure he was
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: feeling different, but like he was still putting in the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: same kind of hacks and and all that stuff.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: So like that was one of the more encouraging.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Signs when he I mean, in addition obviously to not
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: being on the being on the I l so.
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  Speaker 2: Whoo man, that was a lot that was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I could do this for hours, like time for the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: traints schedules, families, what are they doing?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Why can't we just do this? Whye four seven?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.
• 38:24
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  Speaker 1: Cody Stavenhagen, I'm Kieren Steckley.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, have a great day.