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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Pitchforks Out For Evero · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. I do want to ask a
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  Speaker 2: question here of our fellow Panther fans. I do want
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  Speaker 2: to discuss what is more likely to continue, Bone, to
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  Speaker 2: be something that holds up all season. Our offense balling
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  Speaker 2: the heck out or our defense?
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  Speaker 3: Being ugly, being ugly.
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  Speaker 2: Like what, what do you think is the more likely
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  Speaker 2: outcome being up there in the top five and offensive
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  Speaker 2: categories or near it, at least maybe not all the way,
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  Speaker 2: but near it top 10 type unit, or this defense
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  Speaker 2: being down there at the bottom or near the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to have that kind of conversation here
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  Speaker 2: in a second, because I don't think we were, and
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  Speaker 2: it's the bears defense. So we got to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: throw that in there a little bit of grain of salt,
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  Speaker 2: but But I don't know if we were expecting the offense, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: who have been traditional slow starters, to ball like that.
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  Speaker 2: And I know we were not expecting 59 points from
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  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears at all. I do want to shout out, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: the folks over there at the Dilworth Neighborhood Grill. They
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  Speaker 2: are back at it with the Panther-themed signs outside the restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: This week's sign, 50-point beatdown, but still in first place.
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  Speaker 3: Can't take that away from us. That's right, baby.
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  Speaker 2: You're not knocking the champs off that easily. There's all
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  Speaker 2: kind of issues, Bone, for other teams in the division. Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: we know about the quarterback situation. We know their two
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  Speaker 2: starting edges are out until Pierce's suspension middle of the
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  Speaker 2: season ends. But you also have Deshaun Hand. Looks like
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  Speaker 2: he's out for the season on that defensive line. Chris Lindstrom,
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  Speaker 2: one of their best O-linemen in the concussion protocol. So
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  Speaker 2: you have stuff happening, man, elsewhere in the division. You
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  Speaker 2: got Kellen Moore trying to be a hero bone and
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  Speaker 2: going for two and losing the game in Detroit. Although
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  Speaker 2: I will say, full disclosure, It looked like they got
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  Speaker 2: screwed so bad on that Jaron Goff. It looked like
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  Speaker 2: it was a fumble and a touchdown. How is that
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  Speaker 2: a forward pass? That's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea. That was a weird play.
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  Speaker 2: They said because he's trying to throw it forward. It's
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  Speaker 2: a forward pass.
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  Speaker 3: But it went backwards.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I didn't think it was about intent.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was which way did the ball fly.
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  Speaker 4: If you want a breakdown of that play, Frank Caliendo
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  Speaker 4: has John Madden trying to explain that play up on
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  Speaker 4: his Twitter feed.
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  Speaker 3: So go check that out. We have that at the ready.
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  Speaker 3: We do have that at the ready. Maybe later. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: later we'll play that for you.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, New Orleans, although they made it certainly
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  Speaker 4: a game to lose by one, they have another tough
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  Speaker 4: one on Sunday. New Orleans is playing at Baltimore. So
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  Speaker 4: they're looking at potentially 0-2, squirting the eyeballs. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 4: playing two teams we play later in the season early, though.
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  Speaker 4: I will say that. Tampa Bay has Cleveland this week.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, people— They have their bye weekend with
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  Speaker 4: the Browns. The Baker Bowl, baby, the Baker Bowl. Reuben
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  Speaker 4: Bain is getting picked apart and bashed a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: He had a very nonexistent debut. I will not get
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  Speaker 4: gleeful over that. It's one freaking game. What's it like
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  Speaker 4: to have a bad defense, Tampa, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear about let's hear from a couple of national
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  Speaker 2: commentators on the Panthers defense before we open up the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: What's more likely continue our offense to be great or
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  Speaker 2: our defense to be bad? And one of these national commentators,
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  Speaker 2: one of our own. One of our own in multiple ways.
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  Speaker 2: But let's start with Dan Orlovsky, who noticed a trend
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  Speaker 2: around the NFL this week. We said it was the
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  Speaker 2: highest rate, highest scoring week one ever. It was a
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  Speaker 2: rough week for defenses, not just ours. Orlovsky says the
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  Speaker 2: trend this week was motion being used by the offense
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  Speaker 2: and the defense is not being able to handle it.
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  Speaker 2: And he said that was happening over and over again
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  Speaker 2: to the Panther defense.
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  Speaker 1: That Carolina Panthers defensive tape is putrid.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa. Whoa. Easy. He's got his notes over here. Blown
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  Speaker 3: coverage because of motion.
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  Speaker 1: Blown coverage because of motion. Blown coverage because of motion.
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  Speaker 1: You lost contain. You lost contain. You lost contain.
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  Speaker 3: So what is that?
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  Speaker 1: Seven or eight clips that are just– that's bad defensive
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  Speaker 1: football more than– Jaw-dropping offensive performance. I would think that
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  Speaker 1: this is probably the worst defensive performance by the league
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to handling motion that I've seen in years.
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  Speaker 1: We saw it last night in Dallas multiple times. Just
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  Speaker 1: basic motions.
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  Speaker 4: Just.
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  Speaker 1: causing total chaos for defense so I don't think Carolina's
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  Speaker 1: by themselves we saw it in the Chargers game as
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  Speaker 1: well so I think the defenses as a whole across
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  Speaker 1: the NFL really struggled with adjusting to and handling motion
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  Speaker 1: Chicago was great. The in-timing stuff and the plus-plus stuff
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  Speaker 1: was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: There's a compliment.
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  Speaker 1: The Panthers' defense was putrid in seven or eight times
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to handling certain situations.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: That's something, Bone, that probably needed to be pointed out
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  Speaker 2: to all of us as fans. You know, something I
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  Speaker 2: probably didn't notice. The one play we talked about with
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  Speaker 2: motion is the one where Adunze... went in motion and
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  Speaker 2: then cut through the B gap and sucked our defense
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  Speaker 2: over and boom, they threw it out there where the
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  Speaker 2: defender moved from. We talked about that play, but in general,
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  Speaker 2: we did not really talk about motion eating us alive.
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  Speaker 3: At least we got company.
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  Speaker 2: The whole league was apparently doing it or most of
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  Speaker 2: the league, but that is not good for a zero
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  Speaker 2: of arrow. We were talking about, you know, the conversation of,
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  Speaker 2: was it players? How much was players? How much was scheme?
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  Speaker 2: That right there is a zero of arrow game. getting out-schemed,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, completely, with a lot of time to prepare for
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  Speaker 4: your week one opponent also, which is another.
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  Speaker 3: Not having the team ready for all that motion and
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  Speaker 3: how to handle it?
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  Speaker 4: You should be as ready as you can be for
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  Speaker 4: your week one opponent, especially, Mac, when there wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Bears changes. That was one of the storylines
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  Speaker 4: with the Bears. Yes, they lost EJ Moore, but some
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  Speaker 4: offensive line changes, but head coach the same, Cale Williams
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  Speaker 4: the same. Their general philosophies and ideals were not going
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  Speaker 4: to be a drastic change of what it was. I
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  Speaker 4: guess the light at the end of the tunnel for
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  Speaker 4: this performance is, when talking about the defense, you don't
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  Speaker 4: see on the schedule as of now, and I doubt
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  Speaker 4: we will, you don't see an offense on there as
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  Speaker 4: scary as the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: So that's over with. That's done.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to play an offense, I don't think,
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the season as good as what we
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  Speaker 4: saw in week number one. There's a very good chance.
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  Speaker 4: With that said, though. Yeah, the Lions are coming up
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  Speaker 4: week four. They're good, no doubt. But I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if anyone's going to be as good as the Bears offense.
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  Speaker 2: But we gave up 59. If we gave up 34, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: and you said we will not play an offense that.
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  Speaker 3: Good, I'd say, okay, we gave up 59.
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  Speaker 2: We could give up 42 then to an offense that's
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  Speaker 2: not as good like it's just they got a lot
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  Speaker 2: to clean up they do but it's week one and
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  Speaker 2: it's out of the way a lot of weird results
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  Speaker 2: in week one that's something we needed to say a
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  Speaker 2: lot of surprising scores in week one um that you
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  Speaker 2: look back at at the end of the year and
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  Speaker 2: you're like how'd that happen you know what i mean
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  Speaker 2: how did that happen so That needs to go on
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  Speaker 2: the record as well.
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  Speaker 4: How often is Houston going to go up 36 points
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  Speaker 4: in a game?
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  Speaker 3: How about that?
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  Speaker 2: How about that Houston defense, Bone, that destroyed us in
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  Speaker 2: a joint practice? Looked like Josh Allen did okay against
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  Speaker 2: that damn Houston defense. All right, let's get to one
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  Speaker 2: more here because I want to get to our conversation, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: about what's more likely to continue. Offense balling out, defense stinking.
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  Speaker 2: But let's let you hear from Josh Norris on his
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  Speaker 2: Yahoo football podcast. He was born and raised as a
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  Speaker 2: Panther fan. He interned with these two Panther homers right
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  Speaker 2: here at WFNZ. And this man is going off on
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  Speaker 2: his year of Arrow.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just end this by pointing a finger at the
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  Speaker 5: Panthers defense coordinator as your Evero. He has some questions
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  Speaker 5: to answer for here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is the same DC that two seasons
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  Speaker 5: ago coached the unit that allowed the most points in
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  Speaker 5: NFL history.
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  Speaker 3: All I have heard.
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  Speaker 5: Ever since then is, oh, he's well-respected in the league.
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  Speaker 5: And they just believe that once he gets more defensive personnel,
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  Speaker 5: that this defense is going to turn it around and
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  Speaker 5: he should be on head coaching lists. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he changes the coverage the most between pre-snap and post-snap.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares? The dude sucks at his job. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Get him out of here. A team, an offense that
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  Speaker 5: posts 31 points. in the opening three quarters, should win
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  Speaker 5: a game 80% of the time. And his defense allowed
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  Speaker 5: 59 points in this game.
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  Speaker 3: Get out.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sick of it. It is just incredible. I understand
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  Speaker 5: there are some other plays like Derrick Brown on the,
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  Speaker 5: you know, roughing the passer and Jimmy Horn, muffing the
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  Speaker 5: punt and all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Your defense wasn't ready for the game. It's that simple.
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  Speaker 5: And it hasn't been ready for four years. Simple as.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. They weren't ready for four years.
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  Speaker 2: The first year they were, despite a horrible offense, they
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  Speaker 2: were fourth in total defense, despite an offense that didn't
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  Speaker 2: possess the ball hardly at all or move the ball
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  Speaker 2: and turned it over constantly. Last year, they made a
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  Speaker 2: jump of 16 spots. I just that feels harsh to me, man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: especially after after one week, we have to let this
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  Speaker 2: play out further. Mac, how many defensive coordinators have been
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  Speaker 2: fired after week one historically in the NFL?
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  Speaker 4: It just doesn't. I'm hoping the answer's no, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: not positive. I mean, I'm guessing that. No, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: happen that way. I said yesterday, let's see them play Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: play Cleveland, get some confidence back underneath them, and then
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  Speaker 4: we'll analyze that Detroit game week four. If they go
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  Speaker 4: out there, Mac, and they give up 40 points to
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  Speaker 4: get into the Lions, all right, going into the bye week.
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  Speaker 4: There might be honest discussions on this show about Avera,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm not doing it, and I'm not firing the
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  Speaker 4: guy after week one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. That's a non-conversation to me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even entertain that conversation. If you say fire a
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  Speaker 2: zero of error after one week, you want your organization
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  Speaker 2: to be so dysfunctional that a guy that they believed
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  Speaker 2: in enough to bring back, give $ 165 million worth of
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  Speaker 2: two stars on defense, and you just want them to
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  Speaker 2: be so dysfunctional lack conviction so much that they're like
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  Speaker 2: after one bad game, and it was atrocious to say,
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  Speaker 2: I'm firing this guy. I completely have lost belief. Like that's,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That's a, that's complete dysfunction in an organization.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what that would cause Mac? All those,
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  Speaker 2: you know, who would cause that firing would be David
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  Speaker 2: Tepper if he wanted to. And fans don't want Tepper involved.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want a Vero fired, does that mean
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  Speaker 2: you want Tepper to step in? Because y'all tell us
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  Speaker 2: you don't want Tepper involved. They're not going to fire
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  Speaker 2: a coach like that unless David Tepper says that, not
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  Speaker 2: on my watch, he's fired.
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  Speaker 3: But you all don't want Tepper involved. So what is it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could say Dan Morgan wants
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  Speaker 2: to do it and gets Tepper's okay. But again, why
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  Speaker 2: would they do that? It was one horrible week. I
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  Speaker 2: watched the offense's bone for the previous three years look
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  Speaker 2: like absolute hot garbage. Not be prepared to start the season.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember people saying fire Dave Canale. Well, they
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  Speaker 2: probably did. Knowing how fans roll, you probably did. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's one week. It's one week. Let's get a larger
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  Speaker 2: sample here. Now, a lot of people– by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the conversation I wanted to have is now canceled because
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  Speaker 2: all it is now, Bone, is– We got to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of Averro. You guys are being too nice to Averro.
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  Speaker 2: You guys don't know ball. We will have to now
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  Speaker 2: postpone the conversation about what's more likely to continue. Offense
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  Speaker 2: being great. Defense being terrible. Because now we have the
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  Speaker 2: buzzards circling, Bone. They are coming for us right now.
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  Speaker 2: We're not even carcasses yet. And they are ready to
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  Speaker 2: eat us up right now on this damn text line.
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  Speaker 3: I can't keep up with you.
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  Speaker 4: This text line the earliest coordinator firing ever in the
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  Speaker 4: history of in the modern game is after four weeks
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  Speaker 4: the raiders fired their oc after four weeks in 2014
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  Speaker 4: the other one would be november it doesn't happen until
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  Speaker 4: six to eight weeks in normally of a coordinator firing
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  Speaker 4: And it should not.
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  Speaker 2: There's been some head coaches. You got to buy a
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  Speaker 2: week after four weeks. If it's horrible after four weeks,
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  Speaker 2: then definitely let's talk.
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  Speaker 4: Although Wayne Kiffin was fired after one and three by
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  Speaker 4: the Raiders as the head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Fitting enough.
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  Speaker 2: That was Al Davis. You talk about meddling owners. That's
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  Speaker 2: Al Davis. But anyway, and that's... Four-week sample before the
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  Speaker 2: bye week. Can we get to the four-week sample before
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  Speaker 2: the bye week? 704-570-9610 if you want to jump in.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick in Huntersville says, imagine if this conversation was in
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  Speaker 2: any other market. Why is this station defending Ajiro Avero?
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  Speaker 3: He also thinks we're going 0-17, the previous text. I....
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  Speaker 2: Listen, it was horrible. They weren't prepared. They were so inadequate.
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  Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. It was embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: It was pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: I personally thought Avero did a good job last year
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  Speaker 2: coaching the defense. I thought they started to give him
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  Speaker 2: some more pieces. I thought the talent he had was
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  Speaker 2: horrible in 2024, and the defense was horrible. I thought
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  Speaker 2: the year before that, Bo, when they had Burns and Luvu,
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  Speaker 2: before those guys went... I thought they did a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a job keeping us in games, despite one of
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  Speaker 2: the most pathetic offenses I've ever seen in my life
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  Speaker 2: in the Frank Reich season. So I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's been some good, some bad with Averro.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like they keep adding the talent and
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  Speaker 2: giving it to him. And I want to see what
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  Speaker 2: he does with this. I just I need to ask
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  Speaker 2: a question. Did all of you folks out there that
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  Speaker 2: like want Averro gone?
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  Speaker 3: Where were you all summer?
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  Speaker 2: Because the majority opinion bone I saw from the texters
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  Speaker 2: and heard from fans was, oh man, this defense is
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  Speaker 2: going to make another jump. This defense was middle of
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  Speaker 2: the pack last year, jumped up 16 spots in total defense,
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  Speaker 2: and now we add Jalen Phillips, and now we add
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  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 3: I did not, I didn't really, am I wrong? You
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  Speaker 3: tell me. I don't, I don't, I don't hear that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing a lot of the Avero bashing leading up to
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  Speaker 2: the season. Like you guys are crazy. This defense is
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  Speaker 2: going to suck because of Avero.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's weird.
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  Speaker 6: It felt like most of our conversations and rightfully so
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  Speaker 6: Mac centered around Bryce young.
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  Speaker 3: Cause you got to figure out what you have in
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  Speaker 3: your quarterback. It does.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not in the let's fire him camp. I do
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  Speaker 6: think the next three weeks there's got to be, like,
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  Speaker 6: to me, after what we saw on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, 100%.
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  Speaker 6: We're in prove-it mode because if there's one thing this
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  Speaker 6: organization has done is it feels like whenever it's been
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  Speaker 6: bad on that side of the ball. there's been some
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  Speaker 6: sort of excuse defense made. Dan Morgan, after the bad
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  Speaker 6: year two years ago, I got to go get him
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  Speaker 6: more players. I didn't give him enough to be quick.
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  Speaker 3: And they made a 16-spot jump last year.
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  Speaker 4: And they did.
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  Speaker 2: They lost five games. I'm sorry, Fiddy, I'm in here.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to know from you what you thought about
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  Speaker 2: the fans. Like, if the fans had this energy in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm giving you a fan's perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Or did the fans have the energy of, man, this
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  Speaker 2: defense can be good? I think the majority had that energy.
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  Speaker 2: As far as, what did you say there? Something sparked
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  Speaker 2: me there. What were you saying?
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting old. Work with me.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, there's always been like a defense or an
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  Speaker 6: excuse when things go when it's the fan.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this. Which was the worst unit on
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  Speaker 2: this on this team last year? We the defense last
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  Speaker 2: year in losses allowed 20 points or less in five losses.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Whose fault are those five losses, including two Saints games?
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  Speaker 2: Whose fault is that?
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  Speaker 4: The offense.
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  Speaker 3: That's the offense. I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: The defense was the better side of the ball last year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I know that you could say, hey, the defense is
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: more talented. But, like, I just don't understand this thought
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: that Averro is pathetic.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I think part of it right now is that a
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: lot of these people normally want Bryce gone, but Bryce
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: played well.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: So now it's Averro. Is that what it is? It's
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: got to be one or the other?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Wait, when Bryce struggles at some point, there has to
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: be some pound of flesh that some of these people want.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Right now, they can't say a word about Bryce because
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: he balled out, so now they're focused on Averro. It'll
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: be back to Bryce probably at some point soon when
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Averro does better and the offense struggles.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's that simple. Are we that simple, y'all,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: in this town? All we do is blame Bryce or Rivero.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It's one or the other depending on which unit was bad.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Are we simps? Is that it? Can you let me
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: maybe draw this parallel?
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Let's go back 2008, that 2009 playoff loss to Arizona
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: when Jake DeLonge played the worst game of his life.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: I imagine what the conversation was after that loss around Jake.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Comes out next year, home opener against the Eagles, throws
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: what was it, three interceptions. I can imagine what that
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: conversation was. For this fan base, what was the last
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: thing they saw this defense do? They watched a Jero
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: Vero with a right, wrong, and different not be able
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: to protect a lead in the final two minutes of
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: a playoff game. They come back the very next year
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: at home, a lot of expectation, a lot of belief
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: back in the organization.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: They give up 59 points.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying we shouldn't be mad. I'm not saying
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't be mad, but I think you're overstating it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Like Josh Norris said, he sucks. I don't believe he sucks.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I don't believe a lot of teams like he is.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: He's overrated. He's on a list. He is on a list. Um,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: He's on a list in a lot of NFL front
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: offices as a possible head coach.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think you get there by sucking. By the way,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: is he overrated?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Who's rating him and calling him one of the greatest
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinators in football?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Do we not?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize you are like these overreactive goobers.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. Just because I have a differing
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: opinion doesn't mean I'm like them, Mac. It's one football game. Boone,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: go ahead. Reasonable minds can differ. Can I say something?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: If they get rid of Averro, we realize they're going
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: to upgrade from within from Averro's staff, right? This thought
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: that I see, which is the dumbest thing I see now,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: is the fans that think Sean McDermott is going to
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: come in.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Here and be the D.C. He's living here, Boone. He's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: living here.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: He's going to be maybe the prime head coaching candidate
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: in a few months from now. They are going to
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: hire maybe Jonathan Cooley or somebody from within the staff
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: that has learned under Averro.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So you want a Vero gone.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Well, they're going to upgrade from his staff and he
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: may have the same ideals that a Vero has. So that's,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: if you want to fire within the season, that could
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: be what happens.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's week one. I just, I can't stress enough.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It's week one.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: It was horrible. It was pathetic. It was upsetting, but like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I just, it was one horrible week. Like I said before,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in the past, past three years, it's been horrible offense.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And last year, horrible offense, start the season.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: We won the division.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Like, I just think we got it. Complainer and Chief
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: says it wasn't the offense's fault last year. All you
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: people did was complain about Bryce and the offense last year.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Especially you, Chief. The offense was like. All you do
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: is complain about Bryce. Put down the babage, my friend.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: It's just, I don't even know what to say, y'all.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And the anger that we are getting on the text
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: line is unbelievable. I guess y'all aren't ready for this
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I guess.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I vented.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I bitched.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I complained.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I screamed all yesterday morning. But at some point, Bone,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I need to as a fan, okay, let's bring it
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: in here a little bit. It ain't going to be
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that bad every week. Caleb Williams ain't going to be
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: out there every week.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? We play.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Possibly Cooper Rush this week. We played Deshaun Watson or
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Shador the next. Like, I do believe there's a very
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: good chance the narrative can change here. That is unacceptable.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I will definitely say that. But, like, I just, whew,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't know. I got to see more.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Are we still doing What the Bleep, Mac, on the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: way back? Or do you want to ride this out further?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: No, we got What the Bleep, baby. All right, we'll
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: go bleeping next. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, the techs are on fire right now. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: love the passion, baby.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Everybody cares about the Panthers. This dude said we've been
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: losing for a long time. We're fed up with it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: We did just win the division last year. This is
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Key West Chicken. He says, come on, Mac. We had
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a damn losing record in a bleep division. We ain't
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: had a winning record in nine years. Uh, I fully
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: understand that, but we are making progress to this point.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Now, if that crap keeps up, I'm all rage with y'all,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: but I am going to choose bone to feel like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I picked them to win the division for the season.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And they're still going to do it. I'm not going
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to budge. Um, we're going to deal with eight o'clock hour.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Drew Brees saying that he
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: still thinks we, even though we're not, well, we should
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: be the favorites to win the division still. And we
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: will see if people get on board with that. People
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: right now raging against the Mac sheen right now by
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the text line. It's a new segment.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: It's a new segment where people just yell at us. Oh, my.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: These guys just like to yell, man. You ever have
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: a guy in your life, man, who just likes to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: yell at people?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: No lord no.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Not at all i don't do you do you know
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: i'm 52 i'm an old decrepit man french car player
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: french car player you do you do uh texter says
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: what is this the averro news network you're listening to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: enn this dude says put the p-man on the air
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: hog father i guess is he talking to colin i
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: guess not dave gettleman right hey guys hog father Do
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: your job. Take these two off the air and put
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the P man on. Cause he knows ball.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Oh daddy. Yes. Cause I know ball.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Even P man didn't lose it on a Vero during
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the post game show.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: He said it's one game this season. No, he doesn't
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: talent group. I got to chill a little bit.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: He also got a, a stern, I mean, a threat
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: from Evan smoke Ludwig about how he should handle the
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: week one post game.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Did he say, I'm going to break your kneecaps if
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you go in on a Vero?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Is that what happened?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll get back into the Panthers as this show continues.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: We also, as if people aren't mad enough, we're going
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to upset you about your college team because coming up
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: at 745, we got to release our Mac and our bone.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: We each got one.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Top five teams in the Carolinas so far this season
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in college football.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: But first, let's start it with a little What the Bleep.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Everybody take a deep breath, and let's laugh at how
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: dumb some dudes are in Florida.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: All right? It is time for What the Bleep.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Mac, we're going to start in Florida at the Blue
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Miami Hotel in Doral, Florida, where even this story, Mac,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: it's not often at this point in time a Florida
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: man's story can shock you.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Well, this certainly did.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: A couple was sleeping in their hotel bed, again at
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the Blue Miami Hotel, where a woman felt movement near
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the bed around 4 a.m., like underneath the bed, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: fell back asleep. At 6.30 in the morning, she felt
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: movement again, but again ignored it. At 7.45, she dropped
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: her cell phone and went to pick it up, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: under the bed, Florida man was sleeping underneath their bed.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: At least he was just sleeping in it. He came through.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Florida could do a lot worse in a bedroom.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: 25-year-old Richel Cavier came through Mac the balcony and slept
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: under the bed while they slept. He was kicked out
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: of the hotel on August 31st. This happened September 10th. Apparently,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: he had been sleeping under beds for about two weeks.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: What the bleep we doing, man?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Matt, what would you do if he went under your
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: bed and there's Florida man taking the snooze?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, what kind of weird behavior. Man, just
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: need a place to sleep. just at a damn place he.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Wasn't in the way at a hotel go find another
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: room he wasn't in the way didn't have it in.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: The budget bone needed a needed a free place all
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: right i'm just under the bed if y'all need me
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: i ain't bothering nobody all right what the bleep we
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: doing down there in florida for the one million time
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: i'm asking that question i also got a what the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: bleep james franklin off to a great start bone as
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: virginia tech head coach um that went against odu And
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: they ran the numbers up, even with a guy dropping
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the football bone to one yard line before he went
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: into the end zone.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Impressive start. But I have always.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Noticed, as a Penn State fan, I've always noticed he's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: got his weird moments.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: He has some very weird moments. Awkward at times. At times, definitely.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So yesterday in a presser, listen to this moment with
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a guy from the Baltimore Sun named Michael.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Listen to this moment.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Hey, Coach.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Michael House with the Baltimore Sun.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, Michael.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Hey, Michael.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: What do you remember about working alongside?
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Hey, Michael.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: How you doing, Michael?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Michael, how you doing?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm saying how you doing? Good.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Good. What do you remember about working alongside Coach Loxley
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: in his early years at Maryland?
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: How has your relationship evolved since then? All right, there's
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: his question. He finally got his question. What the bleep
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: we doing?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: The kid came on Twitter and tried to explain, like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: his connection was breaking up, but it was still a
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: weird way to.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't on him. It was like a... A boomer
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: doing Zoom, right? Basically what we heard there. It wasn't
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: on him.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Listen to the way this dude, Michael, starts the conversation.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Play the start of this again. Michael had done his
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: part of the greeting. Michael initiated the greeting. James Franklin
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: then follows with his greeting. It should be over.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: He does not. The guy that starts the greeting doesn't
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: need to then come back and say, hey, I'm good.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We're going to do that all day? Listen to how
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: it started.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, Coach.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Michael Howes with the Baltimore Sun.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Hey, Michael.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: There you go. That's the end of it. That's the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: end of it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: James Franklin, what the bleep we doing, bro? Your team
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: is off to a great start. You got all that
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: NIL backing. Kyle Bailey is on your.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Side, baby. In the city of Charlotte. Well, howdy there, y'all.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Kyle Bailey here. What's wrong with you? Why does he
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: attack like that? That was weird.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Hi, Mac.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Hi, Mac.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Press conference could not proceed until Michael told James Franklin
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: how he was doing.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, that's funny, though. To your guy, Mac, or
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: to your ex. I should say it's your ex.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Mac, we're going to go to Florida again, and this
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: is in Cape Coral or Cape Corral?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Cape Coral. Cape Coral, Florida.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: 43-year-old Billy Jean Thomas was arrested after he walked into
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a home goods retail store completely naked. He left his pants,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: his underoos, and his shoes at the door. The female
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: customers were freaking out over this naked man. Mac, you
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: always love the reasons why these things happen.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, what was that?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: His excuse was, as he was heading to the store,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: his pants caught on fire, so he had to leave
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: them at the door.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: But you know what?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: That tracks makes reasonable sense to me, man. Complete reason
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: to be naked in a store.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: If your pants catch on fire, you discard them and
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: keep going about your day. Yeah, just go about your day.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: You can't be stopped, right? Oh, those pants are on fire.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Can't possibly put on another pair of pants. Can't possibly
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: do that. What the bleep we doing?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I have a suggestion, Florida, man. Cover up your home goods.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: What are we doing? What the bleep are we doing?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: This dude said, I got a what the bleep for you.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Defense gives up 59 points. Yeah, that's a date. Take
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a segment off. That's a definite what the bleep, though.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Y'all right about that one.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I've got a what the bleep for you. Go to HomeGoods, sir.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I have never been familiar until this weekend with the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: High Rocks competition, Bo. It's like a fitness competition worldwide.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: They were holding an event in Beijing this weekend. By
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the way, this story is going to be disgusting. Put
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the breakfast down for a second. It's going to be
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a gross story.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: This, uh, athlete in the high rocks fitness competition, Joanna, uh, Wheatstrix, uh,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: she Boney.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Won the competition. She won the competition.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Um, uh, and, uh, you know, she got, uh, she, she, uh,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: instead of getting lauded for it, she was facing criticism.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And so bone was the high rocks, uh, competitive, uh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: sanctioning body as well. This poor woman bone, uh, Had
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to go number two and went number two in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: middle of the competition.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. It was all over her. All over
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: her legs while she keeps competing.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: By the way, Bone, the equipment that she was using
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is used by others in the competition.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: People had a huge problem with them allowing her to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: continue competing.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: And they have cried foul. She should have been kicked
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: out of the competition. Get her away from the shared
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: workout equipment. High Rocks has since apologized for allowing her
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to continue competing. And they have announced they are changing
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the rules, Bone. Apparently that sort of thing will now
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: be frowned upon in their competition.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: What the bleep? Someone put a stop to that. How's
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: there not foresight to know that someone may have this happen?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And if there isn't foresight, how about you call an
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: audible in the middle of the competition and say, maybe
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you should stop right now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Just maybe.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Mac, we're going to go from my third story to
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: the Royal Country mobile homes community near Miami Gardens, Florida.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: where two women were living in separate sections of a
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: split trailer. Well, I guess one woman may have taken
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the other's man along the way, or something like that,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: not exactly known what transpired. But we do know why
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yersey Machado Rivera was arrested, because she went over there,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: broke into the other part of the trailer, and poured
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: human feces from a bucket on the head of the neighbor.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, jeez.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Did he get this bucket from the High Rocks competition? No,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: it was the two women. It was the woman on
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: the other woman that was with the man, her man
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: or ex-man. She poured the human feces on the head,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: and she said... she would do it again if she
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: has the opportunity. What the bleep we're doing. I was
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: trying to go call back to the competition. Is that
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: where she got the bucket filled? Or they got the
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: bucket filled?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Anyway, what the bleep. By the way, two trailers down
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: with Jed York. I apologize. We usually have a one.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Poopy story rule per segment, and we just broke it there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: We did not coordinate our story.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: We did not realize, Bone, we were going to have
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: two poopy stories. But the good news is, if you
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: have a five-year-old in your car, they're laughing right now.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else is.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Or a fitty. Or a fitty.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Let's continue with What the Bleep. I got a What
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the Bleep Sean Payton. Sean Payton. Hell yeah. What was
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: that last night, Broski? What was that?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Your team got outgained by one player, Kenneth Walker, on
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. But that's not why I'm what the bleeping of, Bo.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I'm what the bleeping Sean Payton because Adam Schefter yesterday
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: reported that Sean Payton called Drew Brees in January before
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the AFC title game when Bo Nix got hurt and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: couldn't play in the game and asked a 47-year-old Drew
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Brees if you could come out of retirement and play
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: in the AFC championship game. Drew Brees, maybe he should
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: be what to believe too, Bone, because he thought maybe
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I could. I hadn't played in five years. I'm 47,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: but maybe I can play. Drew Brees went out, Bone,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and did a workout and realized I'm an old man
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that can't possibly play in an NFL game and told
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton no. Sean Payton, clearly, I know Drew Brees
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: was the man and he torched us.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: A ton, Bone, but surely....
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Drew Brees at 47 cannot be a better option than
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Jared Stidham. And if you're Jared Stidham, how are you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: feeling about life right now? Oh, you ought to believe.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They had a lot of faith in you, Stidham.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Holy crap.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: They went to the football nursing home and tried to
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: find someone available.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That is unbelievable. And he thought about it, too.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: He thought, maybe I can pull this off now.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Went out there he probably pulled a muscle on his
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: first pass in the workout i was like nah i'm old.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Mag i'll do my final story real quick it's from
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: dalton new hampshire where 30 year old nester roman his
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: house went up in flames the fire uh department arrived
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to put out the the fire and then nester roman
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: went complete florida man and he stole the fire truck
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: while they were putting out the blaze he almost kind
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: of need that he ran over the hose he almost
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: hit the uh The firefighters, he actually hit another fire truck,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: and he took them on a high-speed fire truck chase
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: while his house was up in flames.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of need that, and it might be
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in your best interest to allow them to put the fire.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: My sense is Matt tells me he was going to
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: try to get all the way to Florida from New Hampshire.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: What the bleep are we doing, man? Seriously. By the way,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I did also. How dare these guys save my home?
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take care of that real quick. This
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: ain't going to burn down. I'm going to steal your
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: truck and all your water. I do have to what
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the bleep your guy, Eddie O, though, Bone.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I hate to do it. I didn't know I was
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: part of this. Eddie O is such a lovable figure.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin at his press conference yesterday said that, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Eddie Orgeron's had a health issue lately.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: People don't know what it is. And he was being asked.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: The hippo laws. The hippo laws.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: He was being asked about it. Lane Kiffin said, Ed
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: is doing better. He told me I'm never going to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the hospital. If I die, I'm going to die on
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that football field. Eddie O, what the bleep. Go to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the hospital, bro. Hopefully, we can't lose Eddie O, man.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: We got to savor Eddie O.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Because when Lane Kiffin, Matt, gets suspended for some reason,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Eddie O's got to take over that program.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Eddie O, get your butt to the hospital, man. We
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: want you to keep living, all right?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I just don't want them to poke and prod, you
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying there? I don't want them to
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: find all that gumbo I've been eating down my belly area,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? A lot of that gumbo there,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? Oh, God. When we come back,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Mac and Bone, that's you and I, release our first
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: top five.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Our first top five list of teams in the Carolinas.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: How many teams will I have on both of these lists?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFND. All right, y'all, let's do.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Textures have started getting a lot nicer, Bone. The Avera
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: talk stirred them up. They got angry. They wanted a
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: piece of us. Your Eddie O impression, Bone, had soothed
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the souls of Charlotte sports fans. A lot of rave reviews,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: except the one guy that thinks you're going to lose
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: your voice permanently from doing an Eddie O impression.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: No, because believe it or not, it doesn't really take
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: a lot out of my voice. And if I did
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: lose my voice here doing Eddie O, then I would
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: sound like Eddie O. Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: So this is a win-win for all involved there. Go Tigers. Oh, man,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that is classic. Now let's all eat some gumbo here
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: and have a good time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is classic. All right, y'all. It's time, baby.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: It is time, Bone. I think some people want me
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to be Eddie O permanently. Could we get that for
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: one day, like in the summer? Like Eddie O is
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the co-host. Eddie O with air quotes.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I think we can make that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Well, if I'm not down there at the beach there
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: with my shirt off there, getting my tan on and
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: go Tigers.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: All right, Bone, let's do it. I thought about doing
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: this in week one. By the way, the conversation coming
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: up at 8 o'clock is about Drew Brees saying at
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the end of the game the other day, the Panthers
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: should still be favorites in the division, even though they
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: gave up 59 points. We'll deal with that. Does anybody
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: agree still, Panther fans? You still with us? And we
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: will also discuss in the 8 o'clock hour the amount
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: of Bears fans, the disturbing amount of Bears fans that
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: were at the game.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: On Sunday.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, but first let's do it. Top
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: five teams in the Carolinas bone. You got your ranking.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I got my ranking.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Who are you?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate. You don't have five teams. So all of
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the teams can't be your team bone.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It's a, it's a small sample so far.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: So I really struggled with the back end of the
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: top five, not the teams that are out.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I was pretty confident who wasn't going to make it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: But how do I order five, four, and three? I
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: tried to look at the wins that these teams have,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: tried to compare wins. Right now, Mac, I went number five,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: and I didn't think they were going to be on
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: here this early.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I've got App State, Mac, number five on my list.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: There you go. Okay. Number five. Hell of a win
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the other day.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think they cracked the top five hardly at
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: all last year we did this. They're moving up here.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Both performances, Bone, were very good.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: The main performance, you can say, yeah, it's main, but
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they hung a 50-piece on them.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: They hung a Bears on them.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And then the ECU win as they continue to own
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that series. I will tell you this right now, Bone, man.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I also am going to include App State. They are
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: my number five team as well.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: And I almost don't. Let's not have the same.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I almost feel put my I've had my Ernst and
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Young have had my sealed up here. And you're going
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: to see that we don't. Did you peek at my list?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I almost feel bad putting him. I thought about putting
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: him higher, to be honest with you. I know based
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: on expectations, Bone, they're off to one of the best
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: and possibly the best start.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: In the Carolinas.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of start that they've had this year.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: But I'll put them at five anyway. I'll put them
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: at five.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, number four. Why don't we try this a little different, Mac?
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Why don't you give me your number four? Then we'll
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: rotate here a little bit this time around. Number four
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: for me is the Demon Deacons. Number four is Wake Forest.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: What a game the other day. What a thriller. Now
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: that defense, Boan.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That defense is going to have to clean some things
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: up before Friday night against Mensah and Miami. But, my God,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Gio Lopez and that Robbie Zell offense. Carlos Hernandez is
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a baller, a wide receiver. That offense is fun to watch.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Huge win over Purdue. I put them at four. And
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I've got to be honest, man, that's what I thought
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: about putting up at four. I thought hard about it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I think there's cases to be made for a lot
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: of the teams in this range. I put the UNC
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Tar Heels back at number four. Certainly much like App State,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: they're on the climb up here. They can move even
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: further up here with their performance against Clemson. Still need
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to see a little bit more. Need to see how
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: they operate. TCU was fine, especially defensively. Need to see
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: how the offense progresses here as.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: They go forward.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: But I've got the Tar Heels at number four. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: have the Tar Heels at number three. I can't believe
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this, Finney. Two weeks into the season. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: cannot believe I'm doing this. But the UNC Tar Heels
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: are number three on the list. They got a chance
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: bone to pull off an upset. A lot of people
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: probably don't even think it's an upset. In Death Valley
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: on Saturday. offense looks functional edwards looks solid i love
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: that cj sadler got involved because that true freshman is
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a stud and they need more receivers sturmans an nfl
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: player at tight end and i'm telling you they get
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: they get mel cart back in the lineup this week
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: that defensive line is going to kick clemson's offensive lines
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: rear end i truly believe that man I do.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I have Wake number three, so it's the reverse of
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: what you had. But like I said, UNC, Wake, and App. App, EDCU,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Wake beat Purdue, UNC beat TCU. I guess the best
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: of those teams would be TCU is probably the the
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: best win there, but I still put Wake at number
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: three because I know I'm not supposed to do it, Matt,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: necessarily based off last year, but I believe that the
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: carryover from Jake Dicker, I trust him and what I
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: know about Dicker right now more than I trust Belichick,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: although that's growing a little bit more.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I got to be honest, three, four, and five, I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: can move them around, and I refuse to put little
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: old Clemson on the list. I don't know if Clemson
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: fans are going to be mad about it, Because I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: still think, Bone, that a lot of college football people
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: would tell you. Oh, you're one of them gotcha guys, huh?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of college football people say, they clearly are
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: better than that. Come on, they're going to be better
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: in a way. I'm sorry, they don't deserve it. They
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: don't deserve to be on there, either one of their
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: first two performances. And I'm telling you, that offensive line
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: at Clemson is hot garbage. Absolute hot garbage. Number two
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: on my list, and I'm not sure they're staying there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I have a very bad feeling about South Carolina against
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I love it when you feel bad. We haven't played
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the game yet.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, I thought the passing game was pathetic against
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Towson on Saturday, but the running game looks to be improved, Bone.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: They should be getting Stewart and Peek back hopefully this weekend.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, I'd give you number two. You can make
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: an argument against it. I'd give you number two. First
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: game was great.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I think South Carolina proves that they will be number
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: one on this list next time we do it, maybe
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: next week. I've got Duke number two, and I'm choosing
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: between my children here. So I've got Duke number two,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: but the number one player back in the Carolinas, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: think we can all agree right now, Nate Shepard so far,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: the number one player. If we did a player list
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: right now, Nate DeGrate is number one. Definitely, but I'm
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: telling you, don't sleep on Xavier Lewis. That kid has been.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: We'll see when the competition keeps coming, but I'm telling you,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: that kid has been an absolute stud.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And how about the way Harvey rushed the passer? I
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: know it's not the Tar Heel portion. I'm sorry.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I went back to the Tar Heels again. Number one
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: on the list, I got Duke. I got Duke, Boney.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: The two wins they have against a Tulane team, not
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: as good as the past teams, but avenging two losses,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: beating Power 4 competition in Illinois. EGET showing out a
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: little bit in the second game, making you think they
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: might have a balanced offense after all. Shepard's a baller.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And that Duke defense is better than last year. They
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: had a disappointing year last year. Manny Diaz ain't letting
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that happen again, man. I got Duke number one. I
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: don't know how long these rankings hold, Boney. But I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: got it for now. I got your two teams at
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the top.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: T-Time said Clemson is not in the top eight of
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: the teams in the Carolinas right now. And NC State,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I think you can work your way back in here eventually,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: kind of like State does. They'll figure out how to
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: win their eight or nine games eventually, I think. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: the way you played against Virginia, you weren't even considered
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: for this list right now.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: There was no way. Not yet.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Eventually, I think you can, but not now. And eventually
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: is this Saturday. You go out there and win at Vanderbilt,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to probably put you all on the list.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: No doubt about it. 73-0 got my attention. But you've
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: got to do it against a team like Vanderbilt. But Conte,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: our picks guru, hates our list.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I said, why is a Duke on your list? So
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: then he forgot it. He forgot Duke on his list.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: So now he's got to redo his list. So he
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: hated our list, but yet forgot teams on his own list.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Stick to the picks, Picante. Stick to the picks, baby.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: You've been making listeners money.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: All right? By the way, this is guaranteed. Our lists
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: will never change throughout the season when we do these things.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: It stays the same, Mac. When we do our first
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: top five, does it ever change, Mac, like the next
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: week or two?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, it is. We ain't like the pollsters. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: ain't going to move anybody. We're going to move everybody around.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Tampa Matt says South Carolina will take on the most
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: underrated player in college football, quarterback Mario Taylor. Buckle up, Bone.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Remember this text. I'm not even sure he's underrated anymore.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I've been seeing him do interviews all over the place.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: They beat the brakes on the road off Minnesota. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: will say this. South Carolina will not have the best
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: quarterback on the field.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: On Saturday.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: But the best player on the field will be back, though,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: for the Gamecocks. We'll see.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Is Dylan Stewart going to be ready to get after
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Kamario Taylor first game back?
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I believe so.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: You know? Yes.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: That's a hell of a challenge for him, man.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I think so. Look at Mississippi State Mack in the house.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: And look at this guy. Never seen this guy up
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: here before. Bulldog Mack.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: There he is, 92. Tell me about Bulldog Mack. Bulldog Mack,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: he just loves to bark and growl and drool all
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: over the place. Kind of like you, 92.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: Just like my predecessor. With that being said, Mac, I'm
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: with you. I think Mississippi State wins.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: You like this, though, Bo. You seem happy.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Siri, call Shane Bieber, please. Yeah, Shane, the guys are
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: picking against you this week. What if Chappell Fowler tells Dabo, Dabo,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: how do you feel about not being in Mac's top
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: five this week?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, Chappell.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Get him.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Gotcha, baby. Gotcha. Gotcha, guys. Got me again.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: When we come back, Drew Brees back, former Bronco playoff quarterback,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: said Sunday he still thinks the Panthers should be favored
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: to win the NFC South.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Do you agree? Or is Drew Brees a crazy pants?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.