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Top Chicago Bears To Target In Fantasy Football · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the one-to-city pop presented by my fan side at that is Alex Shapiro and Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we got some bearish chatter, but we're gonna delve and take this into a little bit of the land of fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little fantasy football discussion as we are both in the fantasy league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Oxford's been there for two years, two seasons now, if you joined us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now last year was my first season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's your first year first season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I was so late getting those funds out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've put the funds out like three weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice getting that it was nice getting that email and being like, wait, I got no cash from that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even take my money out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm debating if I'm just going to leave it for the season, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it's starting in two in two days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Might as well just wait.
0:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it's more than it's because I had the best regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually more than the buy in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may still just take it because it's bigger than the buy in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also like I usually take the different I usually leave a I could I usually also leave a chunk of money in there in case someone doesn't pay Cause I actually has happened like once or twice where someone didn't pay and so luckily I always have money that goes over to the next scene and these people are still in the lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a threat and they got their shit together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got their shit together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do it who they were, but they did get their shit together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are still in the league, but they were going through some hard times or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's also why I changed it also to where that late by FD went up crazy.
1:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the reason that late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because also some people, because they expected to win weren't paying and it was like, I'm just, and it was like, nah, you gotta stop.
1:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to buy in because I'm just going to, you know, win it all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're skipping a step.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't, you're not going to work like that.
1:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, so I had to pull some posts and levers to make sure that things are corporate.
1:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to everybody in the league, of course, we will be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be sitting out the list.
2:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I think buying went up last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I may lead by in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't usually go back back back, you know, sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may lead by in the same year on inflation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's just, it's just like, yeah, that part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just in power is terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give us a break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to break the pump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to break at the fantasy do if I didn't have a hybrid.
2:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I was driving my truck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be out here selling my body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can follow Kenneth Davis on only fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to Oh, I'm getting miles in the street.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
2:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's Davis at that Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to keep dirty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you don't have to be with people that you don't want to be with nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing it all way
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, so you can show back back on the rails.
2:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We're having a fun discussion, a fancy discussion about the bears.
3:00
[SPEAKER_01]: The player, some of the players, and where we're going to draft them at, just to name a few, I'm going to kick mine's off because I'm going to go first, all right?
3:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been doing all this shopping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, the first bear that I would probably draft, we've talked about a lot on this show, and that is tidy and close to lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm probably taking them.
3:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, if I can get them, if I get them in a second, I'd be happy to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, if I get them in the third, I mean, you know why Alex, one thing that has helped me in fantasy the last few years, I've usually been able to get a good tidy in.
3:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's hurt me if Kelsey got hurt, if they could Kelsey injury made a pop.
3:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had me grind last year from the Arizona Cardinals, and that I wrote that man, it was either last year before, I think it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote him like I had a passion and a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can have a great tidy year, because I mean, I have some positions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rather not sit there and have to switch out.
4:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, game again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but I can get a great nice things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always playing the flyer game, the flyer game stinks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so here's a thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're absolutely right with there's an inflection point starting at the third round and going into the fourth round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to play for floor?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to play for all right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get some more guys going to score me 10 points a week and that will raise my floor and then maybe I'll throw my darts later in the draft or am I going to go for the lead winner?
4:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Am I going to go for the the tight end?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's going to be head and shoulders above the rest of the class?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if he is and you get that guy in the third fourth round and I think third round is an excellent time to take calls and love it that's a league winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're talking about a league winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got some numbers for you because I knew we were going to be talking about colson lovelin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got some numbers for you on colson lovelin get this and you're going to be even more excited about this guy and I kind of love that I didn't think we would have him is our first fantasy option, but he is a wonderful first fantasy option and we could end up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who did you have as your first one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe talk about it next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe talk about it next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this guy actually could be truly the most valuable fantasy option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a bears fan, you want to root for bears guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could be the guy top of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over his first eight games of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carlson Loveland, average 3.8 points per game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now part of that is Roma Dunesay was playing in those first eight games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, a Dunesay got hurt towards the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But part of it's just that playing tight end in the NFL is incredibly hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the hardest positions to learn as a rookie, especially on offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: rookie fantasy titans are, it can be tough sledding early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last nine games once he really figured it out and it really exploded during that bangles game when he bounced off a dude and scored the game winning touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last nine games, 13 points per game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nearly a 10 point difference between the first half of the season, the second half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then let's just stretch those things out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say he averaged 3.8 games for the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at Titan 44.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a guy who is not rostered and I'm sure a lot of people who drafted Colson Lovelin,
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[SPEAKER_00]: kicked him to waivers and over over the course of those first eight games you can find calls to lovelin on waivers because he wouldn't get in get the drop down if he had done the 13 points for game and i should mention i'm using ppr i'm using ppr
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[SPEAKER_00]: whole season we're talking tight end to tight end to and that that is league winning stuff because tight end as you said man you don't want to be like doing the flyer thing every week it stinks it stinks it's simply stinks and with constantly too and it's passing league too you just don't want to do that so I'm going to kick it back to you on I'm called to love one.
7:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, ESPN is put out this time for lists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They put out their top 10 players in every position, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, at Titan, I'm gonna run it down so we get to closer and quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock Bauer was at the Vegas Raiders one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, Traimic Brad, who I just mentioned a second ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three, George Kittle from San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four, Sam recorded from the Detroit Alliance, remember that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Five, Tyler Warren, always done a love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, six Tucker craft, injured last year for Green Bay, seven coastal love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now when I set out, take them to second.
7:48
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going off of this, no way while I take them to second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I for sure think he may have a better, I think he's going to have a better season in Tucker craft.
7:55
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, because when they spread the ball out, it's like most Packers QBs, maybe they'll have a favorite receiver, but they also just take advantage of the whole passcatching core.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Tyler warned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Tyler warned may go up to number two or three for me, but also quarterback health may be an issue for Tyler warned.
8:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely got coasts in over San Leporto who did not have as good of a season last year and with Jamison Winston Williams rather of ascending kind of went back and became the fourth option there when you're talking about Amirah Williams and Jamirah Gibbs being more frequently used and particularly with thunder and lightning David Montgomery being going being on the field a lot more trying to find opportunities in space.
8:40
[SPEAKER_01]: All right George Kittle is old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not knocking him
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is, and injuries like if he's not going to be injured, who, but he, the chance of him getting injured are high, treatment, bribe because of the production, I could still put him over coasting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in all fairness, I have coasting right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm talking about what I think was going to happen, no lower than the fourth.
9:02
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
9:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we're talking fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's tight in three.
9:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is.
9:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Rock Bowers, Tramick Bride and there's Colston Lovelin.
9:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing, the only person that I would fear if the court of act situation with the cults is decent enough to get Tyre Warren the ball because we saw what he did when he was on the field last year.
9:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only only, I don't want to disrespect what they did last year and how well he played prior to injury, but I'm with you.
9:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go three, but Tyre Warren stands in my way of perhaps making him free.
9:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, my point being is, this is why in the second
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[SPEAKER_01]: because now we're talking about, I mean, basically, he's my future.
9:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's my second future receiver.
9:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm talking about courses of snake drafts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully, by then get, hopefully, in the second, I'm going pop pop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hopefully, I'm at the end or the beginning.
9:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And not in the middle.
9:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's nothing worse to be in in the middle.
9:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, when you're drafted, right?
9:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let me, let me be at the top or let me be at the bottom, because at least I can know I can grab some players quickly as my computer starts to act and do random things.
10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, that was my thinking and my logic.
10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I want to know since you said you're going to take someone else ahead of my pick.
10:14
[SPEAKER_01]: What player you have been the first bearers played at you a select in the draft and what realm.
10:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
10:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So this I am.
10:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking a little bit of foul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in drafts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is Luther burden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the last time I looked at it, Luther burden was like going in the fifth round, which in my opinion, that's that money spot where if you get a dude who is a dude in the fifth round like like JSN was last year, that's how you win a fantasy football league.
10:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you got a nail your first round pick, you got a nail your second round pick, you got to have injury look, but if you can get a guy who finishes in the top 10 top five in scoring and you got him all the way in round five to me, that's how you win fantasy football.
11:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Luther Burton fits that bill especially for a few reasons.
11:14
[SPEAKER_00]: One, DJ Moore, you're out of town.
11:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Just bye bye.
11:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of targets that are gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That needs to be replaced.
11:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Two, what's going on with Roman Dewey's egg?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Dewey's egg when he was healthy was unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then towards the end of that year, and when we realized he's got to deal with the new normal of his foot that healed without surgery, like his Roman Dewey's egg gonna be dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Dewey again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is Luther burdened about to be the widest ever one on this team now that he is way more comfortable with the playbook now that he's got way more chemistry with Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson that he's not just got a handful of packages for him that he's got he's got more and more and more and more right year two could take off
12:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got some more numbers for you that I think are phenomenal and get me real excited about.
12:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been burdened as a fantasy player this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, this is not like based on anything.
12:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This is over the totality of the year.
12:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Luther Burton got 3.1 yards for every route that he ran, not just, not just be per catch per target per whatever, every route he ran, do you got 3.1 yards on average?
12:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That was wide receiver three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was third best in the NFL.
12:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And this dude's gonna run a lot more out of this year than he ran last year.
12:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, that number's gonna go down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because the number of routes he's going to run is going to go up, right, that there's going to be a little bit of a regression there.
12:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fundamentals are there that when this guy does get to ball and when he is on the field, he's producing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's producing at a high high level and we expect him to be on the field way, way more.
13:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to do the same breakdown that I did for Colson Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the first eight games of the fantasy season,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He averaged 4.6 points per game over the last eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He averaged 10.5 points per game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we saw that big jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, for fantasy purposes, I love that second half jump going in the next year, especially with young players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it correlates so much to fantasy success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That because you guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Evelyn and Colson love and I think it's going to be a phenomenal fantasy football player because you've got to spend a third round pick to get Colson love and maybe only a fifth and we'll see you by the time drafts roll around, maybe that's up to a fifth round or maybe you keep going up.
13:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now if you can get them for a fifth round pick, I think that value proposition is so so high for a guy who I think could end up being a top 10 wide receiver in terms of fantasy football.
14:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see my only resistance, and you mentioned it, and it's, you encapsulated all of it, is Rome.
14:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's times, and I thought about this before we're gonna have this discussion, we forget how well Rome was playing at the beginning of last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right for like the first six week of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he looked like he was going to end up and where he was and why receiver is ranking, right?
14:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And his connection to Caleb and the DJ thing being gone, I feel, and I understand why.
14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And as we keep saying a new normal with how he plays with that foot, right?
14:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But you still have the quarterback and that's his guy, right?
14:44
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more balls for both receivers.
14:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though this is one thing I want to say too, there was a lot of shows, post game shows, you were not the last year, where there was a lot of call if the DJ to get the ball, particularly when Roman down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you're like, what's going, you know, it was, it was DJ and it was Swift that we're on here, like, be both for them to ball more often because of the caliber of player that they are.
15:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So my, and again, the value is great with getting hit.
15:13
[SPEAKER_01]: If you get them in a fifth, that's great value, because worst case scenario, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a flex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a really good flex player.
15:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, for real, if he doesn't, if he's there's some inconsistency, so he can't be where I receive or two.
15:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he can be a great flex player and be used at where I receive or two times when you go and sits like he's on the street and you know what he can do.
15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, the guy's just learned in the league and he's a human joystick, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's rough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do like that.
15:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I like it.
15:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about the value part is what really stands out to be my, again, my fear is if Rome is 90% of what he was last year and it's another year with with with Caleb and not something we don't care about.
15:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about a lot is this year the hope would be a lot more on time plays with Caleb.
16:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going to say on time plays, I think it's been a bit of both receivers, but I think it should really benefit feature and roam a lot too.
16:15
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as it's getting into him, where when he's breaking out and it's not, all right, time to get sand lot, no, it's one, two, three, ball out.
16:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested in plays that are just on script, how that affects both receivers, but how could it affect Rome, since Rome and Caleb have already seen to have a connection.
16:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with it.
16:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk more about Rome since we're already talking about him.
16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be rostered on, and there's another guy that you could look at and could be potentially undervalued because so many people are talking about the foot.
16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's not just the on-time stuff.
16:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest room for growth, huge area for growth, and huge area for Rome, because Caleb looks his way a lot.
17:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But when things broke down, he was also looking his way a lot, right?
17:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when things went crazy, and it was scrambled, Gerald Trot, scrambled, drill time, I don't have actual numbers on this, but it just felt like Rome was the dude.
17:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Rome was the dude he was looking for, and if he couldn't get it to Rome,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So him being a top option in those scenarios is massive because those plays have mega upside and mega fantasy implications, right?
17:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Those big, big plays lead to big big points.
17:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I got more breakdowns for you.
17:42
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the last guy I got I got split for you because this is the last guy who I think the splits were really relevant.
17:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You were talking about how good he was at early in that year.
17:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So before he appeared on the injury report, he appeared on the injury report for the first time in week nine with the heel injury.
18:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So before week nine, he averaged 15.5 points per game.
18:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, is right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He missed five games.
18:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He played just four games kind of after that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in those four games, 9.45 points per game, which ain't cutting it for a wide receiver, especially in PPR leagues.
18:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, don't give you the ranks.
18:28
[SPEAKER_00]: If he had 15.5 points per game over the entire season, he's wide receiver 4 wide receiver 4.
18:36
[SPEAKER_00]: If you average is 9.45 games for the entire season, the widers, weaver 42, an enormous discrepancy.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Any enormous discrepancy.
18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're bullish, if you are sitting here listening to this podcast going, I believe in Rome.
18:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to come back.
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be the Roma Dunzei we saw in the early parts of the year.
18:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Caleb Williams loves thrown to this guy.
19:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe.
19:03
[SPEAKER_00]: There's also great value in Roman Dunesay.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Widersy for four, he sure ain't be indrafted.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Widersy for four.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably not even be indrafted.
19:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Widersy for twenty.
19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: To be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're getting them around Widersy for twenty, Widersy for twenty five, whatever it is, and he has Widersy for four upside, whole my goodness is that great value.
19:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, okay, so we're basically saying,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What third rounder probably if you can get him in like in the third or fourth round like what do you So if you get him because I mean if you he's not when you when you're looking at it Like think about all the receivers is going off and they're running back.
19:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just saying the first couple of rounds, right?
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Tim let's just say 10 player league right like he should be there and what I like what you're saying if you can get what he was the first nine game first eight games
19:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord, what you get had.
19:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the thing is this is true.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, the competition is raised with the schedule, but also they should be better than they were a glacier.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You saw a linear progression, more of a linear progression, right?
20:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, it's a little buzz, but really once they got it, they could shoot it out with anybody.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that's even a feeling of losing against San Francisco.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: There were times where you're just like, okay, if you can get the game consistent in the first three quarters, and now you know you can do whatever the hell you want to at the games at the end and you have a quarterback that
20:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a neck for being a clutch, you know what I'm saying?
20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, Carlos, you don't believe in clutch, guess what, Caleb Williams does, or his body does because he performs at very highly at clutch time.
20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good value.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be fear, and again I know as we talk about this, I've always been hesitant to have too many bears on my team.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: because let's just be honest, they're often really has never been like that for the most part in our life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Consistently change, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Times have changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes me like having this discussion, it makes me wonder how many bears I would lost or initially.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of course you're going to pick them up because you're watching it with someone's getting high.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's always the problem with playing with people that are in the same town as you.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, yeah, and it's like so old, but I'm gonna go and everyone's watching the same game.
21:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: If everybody in your league is a bears fan, you got to bump these up around.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Because by the way, your friends also want to have bears on their team.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate the people that draft their hometown players too early and up to way ahead.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, why is that great?
21:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I you're right.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Go reach.
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Go reach for your guys.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let all the other guys come to me.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's the quarterback.
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So okay.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Then in my it's the quarterback run the early court.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The people that first forced the early Josh Allen Graham.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like that's all I did.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I asked you here we go, but that's always my issue with fantasy or one of my issues with
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so who to so now let me ask you this because I'm okay.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where I guess I would draft swift because I know he's he's going to be the future right back here now you
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Camino guys should get more tick because he knows his offense too.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting if there's going to be any gold line usage type of things.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Not to say that Swift can't get it in, but when you just know Camino guys second year in the league.
22:35
[SPEAKER_01]: being stronger adapting to conditioning before the league.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to use him in short yards situations perhaps more often, that would kind of be concerning with me going draft and swift.
22:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But as a whole, I would definitely roster him, but it would be, it would be a value pick.
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you were talking about Lumpurberg.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Swift is an interesting guy and absolutely like he's going to be rostered in fantasy leagues.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: play the Kalmanungai of it all is does give me trepidation though, right?
23:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Kalmanungai proved last season he's an NFL player and you imagine that his role is going to expand.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We know Ben Johnson likes to use two running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean he just has.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to imagine that Kalmanungai does
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[SPEAKER_00]: into his workload a little bit, especially in short situations and maybe some goal line situations.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think, though, that's the Andre Swift will continue to get goal line work because he's got a nose for the end zone, the dude scores.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he last year improved greatly.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We set it all year.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We were like,
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Get behind your blockers, don't dance and just get North South and get those yards and he did a very good job of that last year and the coaches noticed the coaches noticed the bears noticed he's also a home run threat with in the passing game which is an X factor again in PPR leagues that matters out of running backs so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would I want the Andre Swift to be my running back to maybe not just because I do have a little bit of fear about how monunga, but as a flex dude, I do feel good.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel good because what do we also know?
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson really likes to run the rock like he's going to run the football.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to abandon the run in the third quarter if they're down 10.
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how many bears teams have we seen completely get away from running the football because they're down two scores in the third quarter.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: The Ben Johnson is not that guy.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to keep feeding those running backs.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think necessarily that
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: DeAndres served to get game scripted out of games, unless they're down huge, if they're down big time, but we don't expect the Bears to be down huge a lot because they're offense supposed to be really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if anything, he might get game scripted into more usage.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: If the Bears are up 14 and the third quarter, now you're looking at DeAndres Swift getting the ball a little bit more.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do caution against the running back to thing, just because a commonung guy, and he did, like he showed on an NFL player, hats off to commonung guy,
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think a totally reasonable flex guy and a totally reasonable player for bear's fans to target in their drafts.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not picking him up.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting the pick-up off of waivers in my mind.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a cowman, a guy guy.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout-out to the big team country in James Love, a cowman, a guy at Rutgers.
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Put me on basically the cowman, a guy.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I've been watching him since college, but again, I can't, I'm going to, this one thing I'm trying to do is just rostering people and holding off for no reason, you know what I'm saying?
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if again now, if a guy has suspended and he's a superstar or something like that, or he gets hurt and I don't want to let him fall in the labor's cool, but like, even some of the discussion you and I have here, because I'm trying to adapt, because I'm finishing
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: in a minute.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to win it all.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to win.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to win all finishing the money does make it much easier to be the off-commissioner rather than doing this free.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think I should institute the commissioner fee.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I should be.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out of cash.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the question.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I've involved this discussion that we've had.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's just say, okay, there's a run on quarterback.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me say this.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: second round third round.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be Josh Allen because it's always see the Lamar Jackson, the Josh Allen, right?
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's patting my homes but patting my homes really when it comes to the numbers hasn't been the jigger not the last three years that he was before and going to grab him early doesn't really make as much sense as quarterbacks who are score more touchdowns with their feet.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I Josh Allen, I Lamar Jackson or whatever.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: If there's a QB run, where do you take
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: bears QB1, if there's an issue with one of the Chicago K-lips, because now we've got two.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring about a dozen prints into the basketball.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: K-lips, where two K-lips city now, it's all we do is drop.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just in draft K-lips moving forward for now.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's going to be the move.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: K-lips, they got that dog in them.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: By my Hebrew speakers, no, what I'm talking about.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Fun fact, K-lips comes from the Hebrew word, K-lips.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same letters.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Half loot, uh, Lamed bet for, or off the top of my head to the same letters.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Helev, dog, Caleb, dog.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They got them dog and I'm so it's a good, it's a good, it's a good draft, uh, philosophy, I suppose.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Just do those guys who are born into it, born into having that dog and I'm,
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, Caleb Wilson, Caleb Williams, you can't even do Caleb Wye.
28:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't even do Caleb Wye else.
28:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make mistakes.
28:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to make mistakes.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make mistakes.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be more Wilson being called Williams and Williams being called Wilson, but I'm going to make mistakes.
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams.
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, we're talking about Caleb Williams for the most part on this podcast, but maybe we'll have a few extra points in October.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we have some extra points about Caleb Wilson.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they're good ones.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I have one if it didn't come.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It was shut his ass down.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut him down shut it down.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need any more summer lead.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not planted down anybody.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like every.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh listen.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll watch and I'll even watch in the.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The Grizzlies shut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't bear.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like listen.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that AJ and Darren.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Both play in Salt Lake City or whatever, so they had extra games and so that's why I only play basal to Vegas games But once you get to that fourth game with these picks shut no, I don't you don't need to tweak this in enough We've said shut it down shut it like I last thing I want to hear is Yeah, he's starting the season off because this guy hurt and it could have been no we like as you just said We've seen enough and he wants to play the guy the real guys and the real guys is duck and smoke so shut him down
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, Darren Peterson on the sideline going, whoa, I'd kill Wilson the dunks.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So exactly if Darren Peterson doesn't need to play is Darren Peterson hurt is that why he's in plan or is it, oh, they put, they played.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: AJ DeBansa and their peers in both play in other elite summer leagues before the Vegas started.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So they basically, I think both of them play two Vegas games.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like their four-for-fifth game.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: If that's something like that.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's no, shut them.
30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: With these stuff, no.
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: With this draft class, those four-score picks shut them.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even care.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a cup with the kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut them down right now.
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Show them down.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's our extra point.
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We did our extra point a little early.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes If we get to the end of the podcast we want to hear the extra point just rewind back to this point and our extra point is Chuck Caleb would Oh Chuck Caleb Wilson down He did the reason why it's not it wasn't going to be extra point it post it last night in the chat Oh, they did.
30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they she's not planning to boy.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not planning to fit game
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, they were out of their out of the playoffs anyway, and even if he wasn't the playoffs, so it's as there, we'll come on.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need some really championships.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want, do you want else?
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We can shut down what summer league playoffs.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That part.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Shut it down.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we talking about?
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: What else do I?
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm going off now.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get back to Caleb Williams fast forward another minute.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't want to hear an extra point.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So sorry, we're a little off the rails, but sometimes it happens.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a free flowing conversation.
31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want us to be shut down?
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Who third place game and beef a world cup, are you kidding me?
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Who?
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been a World Cup guy, really.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, I watch, I watch games, but I wouldn't say I was ever particularly locked in.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just found out today, because again, I haven't been super locked in in the past.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a third place, Matt.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Does anybody care?
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Never really.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to embody an hairy cane.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do they care?
31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they care about this third place game?
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But now you're not have the great invocative plan for third place.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying to do to the French people, to the English people.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, if you're a French person who listens to this podcast or an English person who listens to this podcast, can you please get in the comments and let me know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you care if you're team will make it?
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: They make it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think because it's France versus England and that
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been rivals, yeah, many ways historically, just they could be, it could be an extra incentive, the exact part just under the channel.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be an extra incentive to perhaps be a like we beat you because these were great colonial powers at one point.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, so I could see why it's like, okay, France and England, that could be something but to your point,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for us that are involved in it.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Who gives a rat's ass about it face?
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness, shut it down, shut down the third place game.
32:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the other thing that I learned.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And my source on this is my friend Leor.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm wrong, take it up with my friend Leor.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, do these goals count towards the golden boot?
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if so, if one of these dudes scores four goals in a third place match, and then wins a golden boot,
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, that's not right.
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That's simply not right.
33:05
[SPEAKER_00]: If that is true, which I trust my friend Lyore, he's locked into soccer.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That guy's locked into soccer.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll be rageous shut it down.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What did he say to the counts?
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He says it counts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says it counts, which is out rageous shut it down.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess the point would be the flip side of that then why play if the goals would have count?
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are they playing this game?
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Kenneth, this isn't the Olympics.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they gonna get a Browns medal?
33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine if who did the C-Hawks beat the Rams?
33:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That was in the NFC championship.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, can you imagine if the Rams played whoever lost, who lost the NFC championship game?
33:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Who did the Patriots beat?
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The Patriots beat all the Denver.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Denver right in that horrendous game.
33:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, barf, I would have been a bad game.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it would have been a backache because Boneyx was was hurt.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So it would have, but a Boneyx was imagine if they make the Broncos in the thrams, drop back out there the week before the Super Bowl to play a third place game.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you kidding me?
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a watch.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a, you know what?
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you're not going to watch the third place game.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more satisfied.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams were fun to watch last year.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you tell me, I'd be with that Rams and Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett are going to be out there going after people.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just listening.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm talking to you, that's the great thing about football.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a weekend day.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got nothing to do.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me pop in real quick.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys are in the chat saying,
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a puppy, I gotta talk to you about this, right?
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's gotta watch.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I end the third place game.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not buying it.
34:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I got better things to do than watch enough.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian, guess what?
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Brian.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Brian is gonna buy it from ESPN for $50 billion.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and that's why for people don't know when he was asking why if you're listening to this, I was rubbing my coins together because that's the reason all of this takes places in this world people want to make money.
35:06
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's well, the money.
35:07
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35:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Enigmatic fantasy quarterbacks.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be honest.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Then Caleb Williams just based on where he's going.
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going right now.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking up this life.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: The seventh quarterback off the board.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: 83rd picked in the draft that's just kind of like the middle ages the dark ages and I don't want that's not where I'm wanting to pick a quarterback.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: if I'm not getting Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, like those guys who are head and shoulders above the rest that I'm puttin' all the way down and I'm gonna ride with whoever the next Drake may is.
36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a ride with whoever the next bone X is.
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get, you know, like, I'm just gonna get somebody way down there who has a chance.
36:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm more willing to make sure that we're out here.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this now when you're saying that are you referring to because the players you name or straight may is Capustra you know stratosphere I'm going to try and find the next drink may I'm trying find the next guy is sending that you think it's going to be a sending I got you I got you right because nobody can work so a can work qualify for this
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Camard qualify.
36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have a plan B. I would have a plan B.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not wetting myself to cam Ward, but he qualifies as guy where it's like, okay, yeah, Brian Dables and town.
36:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You added some weapons.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We're this close and I can get you for absolutely next to nothing in my fantasy draft and maybe I pair him with another quarterback and we'll see we'll see how it shakes out or I'm going to be looking at the waiver wires to see if
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[SPEAKER_00]: Baker Mayfield and Chris Godwin just go off crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather do that than draft Caleb Williams where he is in the draft because to me that's where you're loading up on more skill position players and that has nothing to do with Caleb Williams like
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be a great fantasy quarterback, but just where he's at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like fantasy doom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fantasy doom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drifting away back to there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my fear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, listen to you say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I only think that makes me say, may I may go against that is the fact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw this last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kailka run his ass off again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we I don't think we knew he was as fast as how fast he is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to get that out the way, but we, we thought he was athletic and could get away, but that top speed, like they didn't have like one of the top speeds in the league last year I believe as far as he was, I don't know, but he was he was 22 22 27 miles far like it so that that because the reason I'm mentioning this and of course not saying it's like anybody is stupid, but we said this with Josh Allen the Mar Jackson it's their feet while they're getting drafted like that Caleb on a team where
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, he at times may, and he may know he will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may, that's also a problem with having swift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is I don't know if he's going to get the ball at the goal line or if it's in the resume because my quarterback may keep this bad boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm mad if my run it back did all the work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then my quarterback keeps it exposed to T. D. He's messing with my money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that could that could be a reason for me to take a flyer in the dark regions as you said on Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because outside of the fact that Caleb has a prerequisite of weapons that he has on this team, he can actually do it himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that may make me say, you know what I'll do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also it's been chosen too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're not even putting Ben Johnson into this equation as far as he's growing this quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's putting him in proper positions to score the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I may have to, I may have to, this may be one of those G's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And put it like this, just like you said about the Drake May thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could be a Caleb year where next year you don't let Caleb is one of those guys that has to go, he's a third guy in that whatever, so there's there is an absolute world in which next year Caleb Williams is the Drake may have fantasy football that that is that's on the table with without a job and if you believe that then go get them go get them in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is the first player that you would take in the first round out of the NFC most?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he's the first player that's going to go on a lot of boards, that's Jamir Gibbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think no matter what football you watch or what, like Jamir Gibbs is probably going to be one of the first two, I mean, bare minimum first three picks off the board, especially with Demo out of town like Isaiah Pacheco is there now, but I don't think Isaiah Pacheco is going to be full on David Montgomery and the lines have kind of alluded to the fact that
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like Gibbs has a there's a very real case to take Gibbs one one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I think I look, I had him last year, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were some for this is games where it's like, God, like, like, I just, he's got a 50 points, right, but then there were times where due to their new offensive play caller,
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[SPEAKER_01]: who's calling the plays with the lions, as far as me taking him number one, in the, let me say the top two picks, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, that would be my fear is we saw, they didn't know and they talked about this all the time, but the lions still haven't found a way,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to accentuate his past catchin' ability and elucidness in the past and game that you think you would have thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this can go back to the, then down to the degree two, bless you, that you would have thought they would have done with the player with this type of athleticism, of just rare athleticism that you may be attached.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hear you, it's valid, but I mean, it's probably the other guy is probably another lion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on Ross St. Brown, you should be one of the first five white receivers taken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben is reliable, a fantasy player is any wide receiver on planet earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that dude is just consistent, consistent, consistent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going lions, and I'm going lions, uh, okay, we're talking NFC north in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where would you draft this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: After I'm in Ross.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, let's just play it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say your first two picks are B. John Robinson and Jamir Gibbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then your next two picks are Jamar Chase and Pukana Kua.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe somebody goes, is Christian McCaffrey, maybe somebody goes, Jonathan Taylor or JSN, you know, like CD Lamb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm putting, I'm on Rossing Brown, right in that mix with those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once that kind of run happens of those types of dudes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's going to reach on Ash and Gentie somebody's going to do it after that like then you get into the say quam bark leaves and right around then probably right around the turn end to the first top of the second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where you're going to find Mr. Justin Jefferson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's going to be me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kiss a sneak I'm a snake in and then I'm going to get my running back right after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm only problem is I don't want to depend on nine or Kyla murder quarterback questions, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Question, that's great, but you know what, look, this is kind of got me high because I'm really developing my strategy as getting back some of the players that I had last year, like where am I going to take pickings, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like, you can go get CD lamb early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go get pickings a little bit later than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know I'm saying a feed off the other side and the playlist been healthier out of those two I shouldn't have been talking about I shouldn't have been talking shop I shouldn't have been talking shop with you like this you say your strategies coming together I'm like I shouldn't have shot my mouth we got to be in the war room against each other so yes what am I doing and I was I'm a good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're good I'm glad you're
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't, I think it wasn't the state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good one, it was a bad one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were like, can't, what are you kind of doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, I think it came, you were right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I probably should.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a real, it was somebody young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I jumped out of somebody last year and you was kind of like, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, and because we talked about our, I don't know if we talked that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we made it went back or forth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you were like, whoa, and I think I was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I came up with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I can find it, I will add it to the show notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We already don't actually point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know those three things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're, oh, okay.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what we do have another checkpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to end on this is Alex out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you both of us did a check for this.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But Alex just invented the, Marvel version for the NFL, the what if bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for now on, the two teams that lost in the AFC championship game, they must play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, during pro ball weekend, all right, they must go against one another and look, this is what we'll do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their draft status gets pushed to the winners, draft status moves up four places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So because usually these teams are going to be in the back end of the draft, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just say you were, you weren't the best team, but you're in the top 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say you finish like 20 today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now hey, you're number 20, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's something to play for isn't it?
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Then that give you a little more money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What money for the plans of course?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what, what, what money too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not just a little bit of money.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a real money to go coin or go in a pocket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause guess what, Alex, people will watch you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People watch it and we will come on here and we'll talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would watch who am I getting out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know why we will watch it because then it will allow us to debate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If one of those scenes happening to the Super Bowl, this this this is like just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams have also beat the Patriots exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They totally would have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they would have stomped them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like, oh, guess what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll beat them this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, tell me who's going to stop the rams in Matthew's after his healthy all season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, they added the best defensive player in the league and then remember that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Garrett is on the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then their former goat Detackel who who practices in his trainings there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but still hasn't shut down the room, but he's going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's lift the weights all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Alex Shapiro, I'm Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We win the city because then about fans side it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next week.