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Walking Into the Haunted: Investigations with Gina Black and Eddie from Paranormal 54 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 3: Today we're diving headfirst into the world of paranormal investigations,
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  Speaker 3: haunted locations, strange encounters, and the lingering question that sits
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  Speaker 3: underneath all of this stuff. What exactly are people experiencing
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  Speaker 3: in these places? And why do certain locations continue to
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  Speaker 3: leave such a powerful imprint on the human mind. Joining
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  Speaker 3: us today are two people who spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time walking directly into those environments instead of just talking
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  Speaker 3: about them online. Returning to the show for her third
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  Speaker 3: appearance is Gina Black, paranormal investigator, explorer, writer, and the
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  Speaker 3: creator behind She Hunts. In previous appearances, we explored cemetary symbolism,
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  Speaker 3: hidden meanings, folklore, and the deeper historical layers attached to
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  Speaker 3: death culture and haunted spaces. But tonight we're focusing on
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  Speaker 3: the investigations themselves, the personal experiences, the patterns that emerge
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  Speaker 3: during cases, the emotional atmosphere of alleged haunted locations, and
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  Speaker 3: the strange moments that investigators sometimes struggle to fully explain
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  Speaker 3: even after the cameras are off. And Joining her tonight
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  Speaker 3: is Eddie from Paranormal fifty four, a researcher an investigator
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  Speaker 3: who spent years exploring paranormal phenomena ranging from hauntings, encryptids,
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  Speaker 3: to high strangeness and unexplained encounters. Their work blends curiosity, humor,
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  Speaker 3: first hand investigation, and genuine interest in the unknown, while
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  Speaker 3: still asking difficult questions about perception, fear, folklore, and what
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  Speaker 3: people may actually be encountering in these environments. Tonight, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about the experiences in the field, and
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much Gina and Eddie for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you for having me back.
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  Speaker 5: And So my name is Gina Black and I have
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  Speaker 5: the Instagram handle she Haunts. I'm also a co founder
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  Speaker 5: of a paranormal team in South Florida called Afterlife All Stars,
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  Speaker 5: and my team does investigations all over the state country
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  Speaker 5: and we do a lot of we host events and
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  Speaker 5: we do private investigations. So we have We're pretty active
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  Speaker 5: on our page. If anybody's interested in the paranormal, come
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  Speaker 5: check us out. And also I'm an author of a
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  Speaker 5: book which is called etchedIn Stone, Decoding Hidden Meanings and Cemeteries,
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  Speaker 5: where I kind of go through the hidden meanings that
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  Speaker 5: are commonly found on cemetery headstones and mausoleums, and there's
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  Speaker 5: like a world of really interesting hidden meanings to decipher.
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  Speaker 4: So I kind of go through that in my book,
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  Speaker 4: and I go.
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  Speaker 5: Through you know, the really cool, you know flowers, and
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  Speaker 5: also I get into the you know, the occult stuff,
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  Speaker 5: the various internal orders and things like that. So if
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  Speaker 5: you're interested, please check it out. It's available on Amazon.
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  Speaker 5: It's called etchtin Stone Decoding Hidden Meetings and Cemeteries.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said before, there was even times when
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  Speaker 3: you're just touching on like maybe a certain.
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  Speaker 1: Animal or whatever that might be on the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Even your definitions or your you know, your theories or
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on the symbolism very much match still the way
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  Speaker 3: occultists would. So I was just like, wow, this is
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  Speaker 3: really good. So definitely check it out. And thank you
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  Speaker 3: again for coming back on Gina, and then Eddie, please
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  Speaker 3: let everybody know what's up with you in Paranormal fifty
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  Speaker 3: four and anything else you'd like to promote.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, well, first off, we you know Paranormal Channel we go.
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  Speaker 2: We have traveled a little bit of the country to
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  Speaker 2: different locations and yeah, we post the investigations. We're documentary
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  Speaker 2: documenting our dive into the paranormal to try to find
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  Speaker 2: as much evidence as we possibly can. And we also
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  Speaker 2: go live every Wednesday on our channel. Yeah, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of paranormal talk on our
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  Speaker 2: live streams. All live streams usually just kind of go
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  Speaker 2: off the rails. You're just fun, That's pretty much. That's
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  Speaker 2: pretty much it. My my my, my stuff is not
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  Speaker 2: as interesting as Gina's. She's got more experience and she's
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  Speaker 2: like written books and stuff. I've never written a book.
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  Speaker 3: She's all educated in ship writing books, right, I mean
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  Speaker 3: I read them, just don't write them.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I saw meme.
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  Speaker 3: So I saw a meme today and I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was hilarious. It was like people who write books. It
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  Speaker 3: looked like somebody was just like you know, like they
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  Speaker 3: had liquor and like ship on the table, like they're
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  Speaker 3: out of their fucking mind. And then the people who
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  Speaker 3: read books, and they looked like totally normal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, Gina and my myself. My team consists
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  Speaker 2: of my brother and myself.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We have investigated uh two or three times.
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  Speaker 5: Three I think three locations. We did the Gold Coast
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  Speaker 5: Railroad Museum, we did the King Carmarty House and Jasper,
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  Speaker 5: the Hamilton Jail at Jasper, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, now you both.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just guessing, Gina, because you mentioned stuff in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Are you located in Florida.
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  Speaker 4: I'm located in Florida. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Are you also Readie?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's so many people that are into this
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  Speaker 3: stuff a podcasts that are in Florida seems like the
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  Speaker 3: place to be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's home to one of the old
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  Speaker 2: it's home to the oldest city in the country.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've even wondered, like, with all the people that
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  Speaker 3: are doing this, there is there's something up with Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Like I would just even say, just from oil and
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  Speaker 3: all the under ground aquifers and running water, I would
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  Speaker 3: think even just as paranormal people, you'd be like, who
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  Speaker 3: knows what that's doing? You know, running water and stones
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  Speaker 3: seems sometimes common even with haunted places or old ones.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just find it interesting. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: paranormal a lot of bigfoot people I know from from
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  Speaker 1: Florida seems to be on a popping right now, Okape
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  Speaker 1: gonna get me one nice. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Since you're you're on here for your first time, Ady,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you what was it that kind
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  Speaker 3: of got you into the paranormal to begin with?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Severe skepticism, huh watching other people do it, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, was that real? So I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the best information is firsthand information. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm going to start doing
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  Speaker 2: it and I'm going to document every investigation we do
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  Speaker 2: to see what we find. That's literally what got me
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  Speaker 2: into it, that is. I mean, obviously, you know, everyone
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  Speaker 2: grew up watching ghost Hunters and stuff, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it's always fun.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, But are you more of a ghost Hunters fan
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  Speaker 3: than a Ghost Adventures fan?
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  Speaker 2: Which one's Ghost Adventures? Zach Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, ghost
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  Speaker 2: Hunters for life? No? No, no, Zachagen's for me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping you were gonna go there
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  Speaker 1: with that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I do put the guy on sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean it's just it's a whole character and
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  Speaker 3: animal with that, dude, it's just we'll send Darren.
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  Speaker 1: In and you know, now the guy sits in his chair.
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  Speaker 3: And just watches people go investigate without him without even
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  Speaker 3: going I'm like, how do you pull this wolf?
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  Speaker 5: I haven't watched anything recently, but it just was getting
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  Speaker 5: more and more ridiculous with every single investigation. The guy
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  Speaker 5: is getting possessed or you know, something crazy happens to him,
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  Speaker 5: and it's just I mean, once in a while I
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  Speaker 5: can understand, maybe, but every.
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  Speaker 3: Place he's been to there was a seance, there was
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  Speaker 3: a ritual, you know, oh god, yeah, yeah. Which if
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  Speaker 3: that's the case, it should actually make you wonder, like,
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  Speaker 3: considering he's got an odds fellow thing like remaking his museum,
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  Speaker 3: you should still wondering, like, what are you actually into?
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  Speaker 1: My man? That's a whole other story, I'm sure, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just what I honestly used to
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  Speaker 3: like Ghost of Benchs a lot. I mean I still
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  Speaker 3: do back in the day because they were I just
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  Speaker 3: felt more technical. They were quick to the bunk stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't quick to making everything like paranormal.
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  Speaker 4: So I liked it when Nick Roth was still on
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  Speaker 4: the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Nick and I like his
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  Speaker 5: recent stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I like both shows.
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  Speaker 5: The original, you know, the first few seasons of Ghost
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  Speaker 5: Adventures were fun, and of course I love Aaron and
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  Speaker 5: crazy situation that happened with that guy with his wife trying.
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  Speaker 4: To kill him wild wild. I feel so bad for him.
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  Speaker 4: He just seems like such a nice guy and he's
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  Speaker 4: always berated on the show, but by Zach and then
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  Speaker 4: his wife is trying to kill him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, Oh, this guy's got really bad luck.
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  Speaker 2: I can't catch your break.
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  Speaker 3: How long ago was it that you started getting into
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  Speaker 3: the investigations at Eddie ah Man?
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  Speaker 2: That was probably close about five years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone else is like, well, I've been doing it for
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirty years. No, I was about five years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as well as long as up in podcasting, So
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  Speaker 3: that's long enough. So I think, And how long have
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  Speaker 3: you been doing this, Gina?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I started around I want to say, twenty
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  Speaker 5: sixteen twenty seventeen, just kind of dabbling, and then I
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  Speaker 5: didn't really get into it seriously until around twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: I was doing it more often, so I would say
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  Speaker 5: around maybe twenty twenty officially.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, nice, Okay, all right, h what was Eddie? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: For you?
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  Speaker 3: What was I kind of like, maybe unfortunately might get
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  Speaker 3: into something we're going to talk about later soon for you,
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  Speaker 3: Like what was kind of like the biggest most paranormal
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  Speaker 3: experience you've had, or like.
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  Speaker 1: What was it? Was there one?
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  Speaker 3: Was there an experience that you had at some point
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  Speaker 3: that definitely sealed it that this is real? Like you said,
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  Speaker 3: like you kind of wanted to, like you know, when
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  Speaker 3: you even started it, kind of wanted to like be skeptical.
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  Speaker 3: Was there a moment you were like, yeah, this this,
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  Speaker 3: this is for real?
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  Speaker 2: For me with the amount I have been touched, really
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  Speaker 2: that has kind of pushed me in that direction. But
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  Speaker 2: I do have a I have a bucket list or
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  Speaker 2: a check off list of two things that were the
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  Speaker 2: most important things for me to see to completely convince me.
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  Speaker 2: Uh one is not even being seen, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a disembodied voice in my ear. I've gotten that one.
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  Speaker 2: And also seeing either a full body apparition or a
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  Speaker 2: shadow figure plain as day in my eyes. I have
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  Speaker 2: not seen that yet.
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  Speaker 3: So but you've had these yeah, yeah, I have heard
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  Speaker 3: of that happening to people in these days. It's like
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  Speaker 3: literally like somebody like spoke right in your ear. It's
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  Speaker 3: like clear as the day, and like there's nobody there
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  Speaker 3: was that how it was for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh yeah, I was I was actually out in
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  Speaker 2: the woods at the Devil's Tree and there was someone
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  Speaker 2: in the woods with me mm hmm, like close to me,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't remember what he said, but yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, very dark. It's a very dark location.
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  Speaker 5: I've investigated, not with Eddie, but I've investigated a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of times, and it's very dark.
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  Speaker 1: M hmm.
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  Speaker 2: There was a you know anything about the Devil's Tree.
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  Speaker 1: No, I've heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: I've never a serial killer. Florida's first serial killer. It
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  Speaker 2: was Gerard Schaeffer. He was a cop serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was.
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  Speaker 2: A fun one. Actually, Oh my god, all the research
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  Speaker 2: I did for that video, that's pretty gnarly stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: If you, Gina, if you don't mind, maybe for the
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  Speaker 3: returning you know, for people listening that may not have
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  Speaker 3: not returning guests, for new listeners, maybe people didn't hear
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  Speaker 3: you before. And I'm pretty sure I asked you this
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  Speaker 3: on the list show and one of them for you,
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  Speaker 3: what was like kind of like one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: paranormal experiences for you to kind of like seal the
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  Speaker 3: deal for this stuff for you, I think.
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  Speaker 5: To get me really jazzed about the paranormal was there
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  Speaker 5: was a trip I took. I don't know if this
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  Speaker 5: is the answer I gave you. Sometimes I feel like
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  Speaker 5: this my idea has changed with this. But one of
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  Speaker 5: the most influential moments was I was. I took a
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  Speaker 5: trip with my friends to the Keys, the Florida Keys,
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  Speaker 5: and it's about a four and a half hour drive
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  Speaker 5: from where I live, and so we drove down for
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  Speaker 5: the day. We were going to drive back up, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, we were out all day. We were having
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  Speaker 5: a good time. And this was back early two thousands,
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  Speaker 5: and we all had these little disposable cameras. You would
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  Speaker 5: take them and you would bring them to CBS for Walgreens.
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  Speaker 5: And so the end of our day we had in
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  Speaker 5: a walking ghost tour at night, and as we were
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  Speaker 5: doing the tour, the guy sort of said, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if anybody has a camera, if you take a few
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  Speaker 5: pictures in this graveyard, sometimes people see apparitions, they'll see faces.
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  Speaker 5: And of course we thought this was BS, but we
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  Speaker 5: all had these cameras with us, and we had a
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  Speaker 5: few pictures left on each of our cameras. So we
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  Speaker 5: all took a bunch of pictures and we got some
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  Speaker 5: really cool shots. In all of my shots that I
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  Speaker 5: took at that site, I had glowing orbs. Not just orbs,
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  Speaker 5: but they looked like they were glowing with light. And
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  Speaker 5: in every single one there was looked like features of
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  Speaker 5: a face. So one orb would have an eyes, I
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  Speaker 5: would have eyes and a nose, the next one would
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  Speaker 5: have a mouth and nose. One would just have eyes,
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  Speaker 5: and it was like every single ball of light, you
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  Speaker 5: were seeing these facial features in them, and they were
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  Speaker 5: in all of my photos. And then I took the
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  Speaker 5: negatives back and I reprinted them at a different location,
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  Speaker 5: thinking like, oh, maybe there's something wrong with the printer,
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  Speaker 5: and sure enough they were in the negative And I
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  Speaker 5: was just so just shocked by that because I didn't
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  Speaker 5: really understand, you know, that that could actually happen. And
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  Speaker 5: as I got older and I understood, hey, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in graveyards there are a lot of orbs that show up,
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  Speaker 5: but usually an orb that's caused by humidity is not
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  Speaker 5: going to be glowing. Usually it's going to just appear
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  Speaker 5: like a little bit of you know, like a white flash.
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  Speaker 5: And in all of mine there were these little noses
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  Speaker 5: and eyes and it was like very clear it almost
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  Speaker 5: looked like a person standing there. So it was really
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  Speaker 5: that was kind of a profound thing for me. But
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  Speaker 5: I would say, you know, one of my first investigations
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  Speaker 5: was at the Saint Augustine Jail, and this was my
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  Speaker 5: first time using a lot of equipment. I didn't just
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  Speaker 5: have a little EMF reader. I had all the spear
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  Speaker 5: boxes and all the stuff and that the you know,
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  Speaker 5: the tour company provided and I investigated, did an actual investigation,
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  Speaker 5: and towards the very end of that investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing happened all night.
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  Speaker 5: And so I got up to a room that was
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  Speaker 5: part of the wardens quarters and there was a noose hanging.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I don't know if.
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  Speaker 5: It was true to the property whorf it was a prop,
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  Speaker 5: but there was a news and I put the spirit
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  Speaker 5: box up to the news and I got this really long,
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  Speaker 5: stretched out goodbye, like over a bunch.
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  Speaker 4: Of different radio stations, and it was so cool.
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  Speaker 5: I was I just got all this adrenaline and I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to stay and keep going, but we had to leave,
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  Speaker 5: and it definitely I think it definitely got me hooked.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what I got me too. That was
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  Speaker 3: a wild experience that is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So now what was like that? I
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  Speaker 3: guess maybe the first well, actually you want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about the more recent Maybe that's the more fresherent one
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  Speaker 3: on your mind, the more recent investigation that you both did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: g you know, once you let us, once, you let
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  Speaker 3: everybody know, like where it was in the situation with
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  Speaker 3: this place.
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  Speaker 5: So we decided our team met up with Eddie and
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  Speaker 5: Richard a paranormal five four and they were actually staying
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  Speaker 5: I think Friday and Saturday night and they were staying
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  Speaker 5: at the jail. We my the girls on my team,
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  Speaker 5: we got a hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: Why not, yeah, you know, and.
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  Speaker 5: So but we had, you know, the plan was we
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  Speaker 5: were going to drive up. We originally were supposed to
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  Speaker 5: get their Friday night and investigate, but it was storming
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  Speaker 5: like crazy that weekend and our five hour drive turned
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  Speaker 5: into like a seven hour drive. So we landed up
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  Speaker 5: just not going there the first night, and we met
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  Speaker 5: up with them the second day. And this jail is
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  Speaker 5: one of Florida's oldest jails in that in that area.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of along the Florida Georgia line.
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  Speaker 5: It's very close and it you know, it's still standing
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  Speaker 5: it's it's barely standing, yeah, and it definitely has a
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  Speaker 5: lot of activity. The town itself is super creepy too,
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  Speaker 5: I felt, because you have this very kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: backwoods town and there's not.
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  Speaker 4: Really a whole lot out there, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think we found a restaurant that was thirty minutes
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  Speaker 5: away that we wanted to get pizza.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's just nothing out in that zone.
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  Speaker 2: And none of the stores had guinness.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that was another thing. Nobody had.
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  Speaker 2: None of them had guinness.
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  Speaker 4: It probably all had blood light though, right, oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but it was a very interesting jail and any is
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: it three stories or is it two stories?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Two stories accessible, but it does have a third story.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: The hanging tower is a third story.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, pretty you know, a pretty impressive building.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: It's from the front, it's it's just it's very ominous,
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: you know, this brick structure and then it goes back
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: quite a ways.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: And they had, you know.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: As far as what we were investigating, there were the
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: jail cells on the first floor, there was jail cells
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: on the second floor.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: There was also a solitary.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Confinement area, and we also had access to the warden's quarters.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: So it was a pretty pretty interesting investigation. But the
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: one thing that was kind of the wild card for
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: our investigation that kind of threw a little bit of
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: a monkey wrench into what we were doing was that
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: rain that I mentioned. It didn't let up, and the
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: building is so old it was actually leaking. The roof
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: was leaking into the building, and it was flooding certain
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: areas at the jail. Now, if you can imagine an
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: entirely brick and you know, cement jail with dripping water constantly,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: it's going to pollute your audio. So it's kind of
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: hard to hear soft EVPs or anything like that. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: we had to be very kind of cognizant of where
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: we were doing our experiments so that we would try
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: to be in a place that wasn't quite as noisy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: But we got we got a lot of interesting evidence.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: That many of you, Yeah, have you ever gone to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: a place that was made out of red brick itself? Like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: was this place made? It wasn't made out of red bricks,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: was it?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: It's it red brick and cement.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, red brick.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this or maybe you're
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: doing I'm just repeating something basic.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It gives off EMF.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that, Yeah, yeah, which I always wondered, like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: why you're gonna The reason why I that's stuck in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: my mind is that like when I grew up in
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Long Island, New York, they have Pilgrim State and it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: like the largest mental place I think, like possibly in
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the country, and it's the most red bricks used anywhere
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I think in the world for complex And I was like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: if this ship's given off EMF, what are you putting
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: crazy people in there for? It's gonna make them worse?
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Right, right, I've never heard that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, can go. Yeah, it might something for you
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to think about in the future.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I know, courts and limestone in foundational structures can
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: actually carry electricity.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Electricity people feel like that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Can give off false positives and also you know some
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: people say, oh it amps everything up and amps everything up,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: but I think it can.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Also create false positives with certain ratings.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: And one of the most I think iconic places that
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I've been to that's known for the courts and limestone
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: in the fact foundation is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: and it's actually built onto a raw rock, like you
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: can go down into the basement and you can see
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the structure. It's built into this stone, and a lot
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: of paranormal investigators go to this place just for that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: And I noticed when I was down there, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: with my EMF reader, I had two different EMF readers
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: actually at melimeter and a K two meter, and they
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: were both just going nuts the whole time. And you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I really wouldn't call that paranormal. I would call that
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: something you know in the space that is giving off
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: high EMF, which exactly you know, thinking it's got to
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: be that, but it was very I can see where
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: that would excite paranormal seekers, and I can see where
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: it could also lead to false positives.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: No, I totally agree. I actually think you nailed it
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: on the head. I think it could be something that
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: is going to be putting out EMF, but it doesn't
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: actually mean this paranormal activity going on. I would think
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: with the crystals in the water, you're going to get
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: some sort of like static electricity or piesy electricity or
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: something like that. So it makes total sense. But yeah, sorry,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: it'd like take you off a little bit. But yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I was just wondering when you said bricks, I was
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: wondering if this place was red bricks at all.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, and very It's a very cool building
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: and it was very very spooky inside, just give you
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: a very eerie kind of feeling, you know.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: It was very dark and don't I don't know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: How they stayed one night and then they landed up
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: leaving because of how bad it was flooding. Oh yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: second they high tailed it out at the end because
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I think it was getting a little dangerous with the flooding.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, getting a wee bit. I would I would
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: be worried about the equipment too, in a sense.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I had a camera get dripped on. Luckily it
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: had already died. One of my one of my IR
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: cameras was getting dripped on, but it already died because
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it was late late in the night, so it didn't matter.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It wasn't no damage done.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask between did both of youse come
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: with equipment? Of course, all right, Eddie will start with you.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: What kind of equipment did you come with when you
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: went to If you don't mind me askwering?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I pack everything?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: What's you know?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Emf meters rimpods, which I'm hiffy about now oh are
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you Yeah, a little bit okay, I mean I have.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: One too, but I'm same thing. I'm a little iffy
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: on them.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, radio frequency set it off. I I was
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: under the impression it didn't, but I tested it and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it legitimately does set it off.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Didn't think it would, you know. I was like, it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a proximity meter, Like, how would you set it off? Yeah?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: You know what, real quick, nothing to throw up and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: take you off. We'll get right back to it. I'll
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: try to remember to go back to where we were
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: talking about things, Like you're saying that that that radio
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: frequencies can set that off. Have you ever seen like
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: this new thing that the last few years that's been
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: going around where it's like these people put like these
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: things on the rise that's flash and this red lights?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Delco experiment.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I what was I covering? I think I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: was covering scrawing, and I was like covering it from
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: an academics. Believe it or not, there's been science and
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: studies done on like scrowing and shit, and they've actually
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: done studies on this there is it's same thing, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I think they might have gotten the idea because of
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: like a flame, believe it or not, if you were
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to stare at a flame with your eyes closed long
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: enough and it happens to get to like a certain
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: flicker rate, it doesn't matter where you are, if you're
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a male, female, young or old, you might actually start
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: hallucinating all the same shit. That device is going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: make you hallucinate and here shit regardless. So I was
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: just like, you know, could you be having the paranormal
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: like experience and there's actually nothing going on at the place,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and then you're documenting it as paranormal like where it's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: no your brain is actually just making it up.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Well, I think I'm afraid of putting those lights close
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: to my eyes because there's no study that tells you
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: that that's not going to damage your eyes. And you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: lights close to your eyes, especially like let's say, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: know an example, is it good like a tanning salon,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: You can really damage your eyes. And I don't know
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: what kind of lights those are, and I don't know
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: how strong they are, and I don't know if they're
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: safe to be that close to your eyeball. So I've
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: never tried them. But what I have tried, that's similar.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: My friend made a pair of goggles with lights on
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the outside of the goggles, and it has like a
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: white film over it, so the lights aren't exactly right
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: in your eyes. And this was kind of trying to
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: recreate the gans felt experiments.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, I covered that. I covered that myself too.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That is wild, it is, And.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I would say with that, I felt a little bit
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: more comfortable because the goggles have like a white film
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: that's supposed to simulate I guess.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I think in the seventies they use pink.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Pong balls and they put pink pong balls over the
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: eyes white ping pong ball. They cut them in half,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: and then they put the lights, so you were kind
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: of seeing a filtered red light.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: It wasn't right in your eye. And then you listen
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: to white noise.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So I tried this, and in my experience, I was
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: hearing what I thought sounded like chanting, like I thought
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: the people in the room were chanting. Because after a
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: certain amount of time, I'm hearing this noise under the
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: white noise, and there was nobody chanting in the room.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that was me hallucinating something or
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: if that was my brain trying to.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Make sense of the white noise.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: But I was hearing chanting, and then someone else tried it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: and then they were hearing what they thought was drumming.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: So it was interesting. We were hearing something kind of
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: rhythmic white noise.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But that is interesting. You had the chanting, the person
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: had the drumming. I mean that would almost go together
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I also forgot to mention that she did a what
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: is the automatic drawing experiment? She did that over the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: phone with us. We were facetiming when we were at
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Sally House and she was in Florida, went to see
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: just doing a little long distance testing to see what,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you know, what we got going on.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: That was fun. That's cool. That's cool.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: That was cool.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And I think when we did that, because what he
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: did was I was listening to a spear box and
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I was blindfolded, and I was drawing what was ever
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: coming to my mind's eye, and my husband was filming me,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: I guess to send to you, and I was drawing
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: what I thought was a bathroom, and I said something
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: about a bathroom, and you guys were in a bathroom
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: or there was something that happened in a bathroom and
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: it was like that was the one thing that sort
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: of lined up, like I queued into a bathroom and
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: that was part of what you were doing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: At that time during the investigation.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It's pretty weird just saying experiment.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was neat all.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Right, So besides the I guess the MF pod and
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: what else did so what other stuff did you bring.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: With you pod SLS.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Oh you guys us an SLS. Yeah, nice too. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: think those things are interesting.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we went to Hamilton, we had
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: ye Less is going.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: And we got the same figure on bolts of the
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: O and they were two different brands.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: There were two different cameras and angles.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, they were picking up the same figure.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: We got a figure in one of the jail cells
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: that looked like it was backed up against the bunk
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: and it was like punching and kicking one of the
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: women that was in the cell, like almost like get
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: away from me, get away from me to somebody, this
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: is my self. And then when we moved into a
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: different area, it followed us and we both got it
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: on two different cameras, a stick and dot figure and
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Moving in the same manner, and we lined up both
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: of our screens. We have it on film.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Both of the figure was doing the same crazy motions
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: like trying to kick and basically probably fight us.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: And it was wild. I've never seen anything like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen anybody actually investigate
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: with two of them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's really good though.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: If you can, man, you can even say, like if
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you get you get both doing the same thing, you can.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, that kind of validates what we're saying. Especially,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I mean if they were standing at the same angle,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you know, that would be weird. You know, I'll be like, okay,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: but you guys are maybe picking up the same Now
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: there were two completely different angles. One was really low
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: when one was eye level, and they were picking up
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the same figure.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: It was crazy.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: And then in that same cell where we originally caught
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: the figure, I did an est session with you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: listening to a spear box, and I got my maiden
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: name spoken into the spear box. And I have a
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: very long Italian house specific name that is not going
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: to come through on a radio station. I guarantee O mine.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Came through a radio station.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Then something wrong, No, it's not, And I heard it
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: clear as day. My maiden name was spoken through the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: spear box and it scared me. And I'm like, okay,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I'm done. Like I'm done.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: And I went outside and somebody had stage and I'm like, okay,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I'm just I need to take a little stage bath.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, her freaking out and getting upset about
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that was the perfect ending to that video. I'm just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: saying for a video editing, Uh, it was perfect.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: It was like a mic drop. I'm like, I'm done.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for real?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, that's wild. Now I'm assuming you have
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: voice recorders, right, because I think you said that you guys.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Do I use a zoom eh and one?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Oh nice? Yeah I have. Yeah, I have one of those.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Two Crispy Crispy Little Feller.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Actually have all this go something equipment. I've only used
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: it once. It's actually pretty sad. I even have like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: the HIC the HIC Pro, the hick Mo fucking thermal
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: came and yeah, yeah, yeah, I have cameras and all
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: this stuff. Yeah and uh yeah, I even have like that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Uh do you guys have a you know what, I'm
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: a little iffy on. I think you guys mentioned it before. Uh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: spirit boxes, you guys use that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I have so many different kinds of spirit boxes. I
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: have probably ten I use.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I use one mostly, but I have so many other ones.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I've been like go ahead, no, no, you go ahead.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I like the as methods, so it's usually what we
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: use ours for.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: H No.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I think you can't pick up ship on there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: But sometimes I just wonder if people I don't know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I was told that there's like a better way, like.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I forgot where I got mine from.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: There's some like online ghost thing, and I've seen people
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: suggest to actually like take something out of it or
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: something so it doesn't pick up.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you take it, you take out the FM.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah mhmm.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: All right, So display, uh was there anything else that
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you guys picked up in this jail?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Like how did you how did you like solos?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And okay, all right, go ahead, Oh yeah yeah. So
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: you guys went in as a group, and then he
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: did solo stuff as well.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: We each There were two and I don't know if
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: they were male and female or if it were two
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: male solitary confinement cells. But he went into one and
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I went into the other, and we just went in
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: there with recorders and while we didn't really get much,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: we got what sounded like kind of growling or perhaps
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: like some sort of.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Sound that was foreign to the room.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: You know, I didn't hear it with my own ears,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: and it was picked up on the recorder, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: think you might have gotten something to you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got. I got essentially the same thing that
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you did. Yours was seemed a little more aggressive towards
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you than me. But I've actually that jail. I have
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: been growled at. Down the hallway. There's a hallway. It's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: for the the the officers to walk around the women's cell.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I peeked down the back and I turned around and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I was looking into the solitary from the outside. And
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I did this on a live stream, and I got
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: growled at from the end of the hallway where I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: just looked down, and there's a deep sounds like not
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a lion roar, but you know how lions will growl.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It sounded exactly like that coming from the end of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the hallway. And I got it perfectly on the on
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the channel if you can ever, if anyone ever wants
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to find that. But yeah, we were getting she was
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: getting more it was more aggressive towards her than me,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: But I also.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Did a little bit of provocation, so it might have
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: been pissed off at me because we tried an experiment
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: towards I would say, like the middle of the night.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: And what we did was we put everybody in a
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: different jail cell, and I took these old keys, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: the old.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Keys, the original keys for the jail.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I what I did was everybody went
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: into a cell and they had to be quiet, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: I was walking around like kind of yelling.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, lights everybody in. Everybody lights out.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: And then I started like grinding the keys on the
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: jail cell, like the bars, and I was like, all right.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Everybody in. I don't want to hear any sounds.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: And like, I walked across the whole upper level and
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: then I went downstairs and I did it downstairs as well,
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: and they all stayed put and they all had their
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: recorders going. We didn't get any e vps, but then
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: it kind of the activity picked up.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: After that. Oh no, no, we did get an e VP.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Oh we did.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I caught it. When you you can hear you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: yelling in the background, and you can hear what sounds
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: like a guy going Okay, it's.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: In the video.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It's in the video. Guy, just call Jesus Christ. All right,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I'm in the cell.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Calm down, all right, bitch, I'm in there, Jesus.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did get a really good e VP from that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I forgot about that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That's why I called Gena the Master of Experiments. That
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: was a really good experiment.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: That was a great idea, you know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: And I wasn't trying to be me and I was
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: just saying, like, all right, everybody in you know, the
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: time is, you know now lights out, and and uh realistic.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't that mean, Oh come on now, Sasha was upset.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: She was scared.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that's actually I mean, I think that's
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a really good idea that I'm trying to brag or
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: bring it up again. But like you know, I've done
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: two years in federal prison, and I can tell you
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: right now that if you hear keys rattling, that's you're
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: gonna yeah. I mean, that's just the thing that you
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: know every time you not even that just when they're
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: walking around. They have so many keys that you will
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: hear them coming before they even come it's to the
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: point where it's like they're almost letting you know, we're
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: walking around, but like you hear those fucking keys, man,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and that's gonna you know what I'm saying, that's great
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: to do in a prison. That's gonna catch somebody's fucking attention.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I do give her props for that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh, fuck, here comes the prick.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: But then they were mad at me for the rest
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of the night, so I got, you know, retaliated.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: So aggressively ground at Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Was there any like, was there any like stories behind
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: this place that you knew about before you went there?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Also that like, was there any murders or any like
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: weird things that went on there?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like some history like that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I knew a little bit more history than she did,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: just minorly. Like I knew there was a guy named
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Ed Black that was in segregation. He was one of
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the people in segregation. I knew that a woman hanged
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: herself in the women's cell. Apparently. I don't know if
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: we learned it that night or I learned it previously,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: but there was apparently a fire in the jail and
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: they lost a lot of the uh, I think it
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: was a fire in the twenties and they lost a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: lot of the the files. The history of the jail
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: got burnt up.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: So yeah, and there was also, of course, just a
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: lot of executions on the property. And they have these
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: really messed up photos. The current owner has a glass
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: case on the first floor and inside the glass case
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: there are newspaper clippings and they show like people after
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: they were killed, you know, and it was disproportionately you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of black men, you know, that were you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: they have all these photographs of them, and it's very dark.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: And I think there's definitely a lot of energy on
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: that property because a lot of people are probably you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: unjustly tried and convicted and then executed, and you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: it's just that stuff doesn't just go away. I think
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: a lot of that energy, whether you believe a soul
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: stays or not. I think a lot of that energy,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: because it's very negative and very dark, it stays. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: then also you have the theory that jails are very
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: haunted because people feel like I deserve this, I deserved
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: be here, I did something really messed up, and I
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: deserve this, And you know, there are ghost hunters all
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: around the country that get evidence that you know people say,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know, they get EVPs, they get all kinds of stuff,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: And these spirits are saying like, basically like this is
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: the punishment I deserve. I'm in the place I'm supposed
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: to be. And the idea is also maybe they're afraid
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: of where they're supposed to go afterwards because of all
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: the terrible things the lifetime.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: It's like, well, maybe maybe it's better to stay there
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: than to move on.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So well, that's a mind fucker. I never even thought
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see a question and way you might
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: go if you're in prison already and you died, like
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: society has already deemed me a fuck up? What does
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: God think? Like, Oh, yeah, that's interesting way to look
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: at it. I you know, I had to ask because
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I had just I just assumed there was probably a
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: suicide hanging. Totally forgot. You said the executed people on
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: like the third floor, right.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that nobody ever got hanged in the hanging tower.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Oh go figure they did.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: They built gallows outside in the side yard of the building.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And actually that place is the it's known for being
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the last legal hanging. Uh. East of the Mississippi.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, So I didn't.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I totally forgot about like people even besides suicide. This
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: is I guess what do you call that when executions
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: involved to begin with yep, oh man, yeah, totally forgot.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't even put two and two together when you
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: said it before. Oh yeah, especially people that were wrongly executed.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well, I think the time period, you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: especially when a lot of this was going on, there
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: was a lot of racism in that area specifically, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: and I just have to assume that not everybody was
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: was necessarily guilty of all the crimes that they were
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: committed of, and they didn't have DNA, they didn't have
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: you know what exact now, and you know, it's just
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: it's heartbreaking to think that some people, and maybe not everybody,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: but some people, probably a percentage of them, probably didn't
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: commit the times that they were accused of and there's
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: just nothing you can do. And that's a really sad
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: situation and could be a reason why it's haunted.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: But it's definitely haunted.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I would say, after our experiences there, and I would
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: love to actually go back because I fell with the rain,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: you know that noise contamination of the rain is dripping.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was kind of it created this interesting.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Atmosphere because it was very spooky, and it was very
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: cold because we were there actually like the coldest, one
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: of the coldest weekends of the year.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I think it actually snowed in.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: That area the next the prior week after we left,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: it snowed. And it never snows in Florida, but it
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: snowed in Jasper. But it was so incredibly cold, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I had read online and I had listened to podcasts
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: and everybody said, oh, it's really freezing cold inside the jail,
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: and I'm thinking, Oh, what do they know. I'm going
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: to bring a jacket. I'll be fine. It was colder
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: in the jail than it was outside of the jail,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: and supposedly that structure holds onto heat and it holds
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: onto cold. So you were kind of screwed if you
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: were living there, because no matter what you do, you're
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: either going to be boiling or you're going to be frozen.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Oh good old hands. I've been handcuffed to the bars
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: upstairs when it was like one hundred and twenty degrees,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: So it's not my first time going. I've been there
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: a few times.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, you guys said that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: You guys actually handcuffed yourself and did you get any reactions?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It was okay? Here what was we? We we liked
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that was that was our place. And I'm sorry you
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: need to inform you, but I don't think Hamilton's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: thing anymore.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Oh it's not.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the lady lost, uh she lost the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: rights to the building, and I think the county took
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it over and I don't know what.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: They're going to do with it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, no, we that was usually our place.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: You know, this is a fun place to do with
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: new people, even though Gina wasn't new. But we had
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: our buddies from Memphis come down. And the second night
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: we were there, we all we I mean, we brought
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a card table and we played poker and I was
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: dressed like a cowboy. It was wild. We were playing
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: poker Texas hold him and whoever lost. I mean we
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: were playing for hours and finally everyone was getting They
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: were like, all right, whoever, when whoever loses this next
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: hand is the one who gets punished. Well, the punishment
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: was being bagged and handcuffed to the you know outside
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the segregation to the hallway next to segregation in the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: corner where you know, remember where segregation was not segregation,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: but yeah, segregation. It was up there in the top
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and you had the two hallways. Well, I had got
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: handcuffed to the corner right there, and I had dark hallway,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: dark hallway with a bag over my head. And one
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: of another one of my punishments was I had to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: sing a song.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Oh sh what'd you sing?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't remember? Okay, so stupid, it's a member's only video.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: I have a real, like, I guess, ignorant question because
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe when I first heard you say it,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: since I've been in prison, I took it in a
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: different sense when you're saying segregations. Does that mean actually
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: was that like white prisoners and black prisoners.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Were kept away from each other? Oh? I actually was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: thinking something completely different. Well, I understand keeping the metal
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and women, yeah, very much.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Tell then is it women were downstairs and there was
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: one cell that was designated uh blacks?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: See I didn't even for some reason because you know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: my experience, like I've been in places where they'll have
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: like they'll call it segregation. But it's because that's all
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: like law enforcement of cops that they know if they
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: put them in general pop, they'll get their speat, you
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, or like you know, people pedophiles
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: or people who checked in because they're afraid of getting
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: their aspet for whatever reason. I was thinking that when
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: you said segregation, and I'm like, remember realizing what she's
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: saying earlier, I'm like, oh, it just hit just hit me.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wait, this dis was segregation, like from
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: back then.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: It's a proper eighteen Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, damn. Yeah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: So I mean let's just keep it real. I mean,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: who could have gotten killed? I really wasn't guilty?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Probably a lot.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry to go off on that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It just hit me for a second. I was like, wait,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's like you know, you know, special
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: people or whatever.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've been there, so yeah, so you had
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to so you had to sing and did anything happen?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, was it weird for you or anything? Was
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it was it creepy or did it just seem silly
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that you had to do that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I did catch a couple of weird EVPs that I
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: couldn't figure out what they were. They didn't. One of
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: them sounded like a guy's voice that was slowed down
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: and deepened. I don't know what it was. I you
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: know what I should have. One of our members kept saying, Oh,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you need to like put it in a program and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: speed it up. Oh I never did, though. I just
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: gave it to the members and I was like, here
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: you go, enjoy.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: You ever put stuff out and people that listen to
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: you show have actually found ship that you didn't even
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: realize was that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a visual guy. Okay, when I'm why
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I see I see visual stuff. I never pick up
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: on EVPs. I never pick them up. But you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: we get our member wreaking havoc. She's like floater. She's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a floater on around a bunch of different channels. She'll
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: pick it out in a heartbeat, and I'm like, oh, oh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't catch that.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I've had that happen too.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: On one of my Instagram reels I posted on my page,
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I had somebody reach out that was an audio engineer
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: that apparently had downloaded my video and what he liked
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: to do for fun was just listen to paranormal videos
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: with his headphones and his programs, and he's like, I
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: really think there's an EVP here, and he sent it
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: It was enhanced. He kind of cleaned up the noise.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Because I was walking around a graveyard in Salem and
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I had an EMF reader.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: That was just going nuts. It was just going crazy,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: and I thought it was the coolest things that was.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: You know, hought my phone on airplane mode so that
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: it wouldn't admit, you know, tons of EMF and I'm just,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: you know, filming it and I'm.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Like, this is so crazy.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: I walk up to a Dosin and I'm like, hey,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: is there any electric sources anywhere around here? And she
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: said no, this whole city block there's no electricity anywhere.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: It's all historic buildings. And I'm like, I can't explain
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: why it's doing that. And he listened to the video
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: and there's a voice in my video as I'm walking around.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And I'm going, oh, I don't know what's causing this.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: There's a voice that says, I'll escort you like clear
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: as day. And that would be something of that time
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: period because most of the graves and the Old Salem,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: the old burial ground and Salem. It's actually fun revolutionary
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: war soldiers. It's not a lot of people think it's
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: all sale and witch trials because they have a sale
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: and witch trial memorial. But most of the graves are
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: actually revolutionary people. And that would be kind of something
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: that a man might say if you saw a girl
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: walking around by herself in a graveyard.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, miss, I'll escort you, like, do you need help?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: So crazy? It really inspired me to listen to my
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: videos more because and I do that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: I'm guilty of not doing it all the time, but
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I would say sometimes when I actually sit down and listen,
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: I pick up what sounds like whispers, and you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: sometimes you can debunk that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: It's it's pretty interesting, but in a highly active place
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: you can catch it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: On your phone.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, I could even say.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, for the one time I did do that
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: investigation with my friends listening to like the e VP stuff,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't that something I wanted to sit there and do.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Because we even left it running somewhere for like an
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: hour or two and we're like, oh, we'll go back
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: and listen. I'm like, it sounded like a good idea
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, huh, I don't want to do this now.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I actually met some guy. I had some paranormal guy.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember his name anymore. I had him
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: on years ago that he was like that's like. He
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: was like, Oh, just send it to me, I'll listen
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: to it for you. I was like that he loved
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: listening to EVPs.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: It was I was like.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Some people, Yeah, yeah, it was just yeah, I could
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: see more you like he was saying, I'd be much
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: more for the video, you know, much more visual person.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I'm working on the vliska Ax Murderhouse right now and
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I have probably five cameras at about six hours apiece.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be a nightmare to go through. Oh, Erica,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: what's going on? And crackers? Erica?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: And then somebody did ask Gina that painting in the
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: back is that?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Did you do that?
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: So this painting is actually a fun story. This painting.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: I was a part of an artist collective in South Florida.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: This was years and years.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Ago, and what we would do is we would get
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: these blank canvases. This is like a big like a
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: board of wood, and it would be all these different
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: artists local artists and we would just kind of like
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: get together and go ham on them.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: And this particular one.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you could see, like the little
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: I'm like all turned around the blue guy behind me,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: that little tongue, that's I painted that tongue, but all
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: of it kind of like you paint and then somebody
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: paints over it, and it's like this is big tagging party.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: And the guy who was setting up the art events,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: he wanted some of my art.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: So he said, oh, you know, I really want to
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: get you some of your art. And I'm like, well,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I want that because.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: My soon to be husband really liked it and I
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: wanted to give it as a p and I'm like,
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: why don't we trade? So I traded my paintings that
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: his lady wanted and then I got this for my guy.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: It was nice trade and it's actually really big. It's
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: like twelve feet it's it's huge. We haven't drilled into
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: the wall. But I didn't do it myself, all of it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: But one of the artists actually is kind of notable.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Now he I think we got this maybe in twenty eleven,
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: twenty twelve. He one of the guys actually went on
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: to do graffiti.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Like all over the world. He's up there with like
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: you know, he's doing stuff with Banksy and he's part
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: of this, so hopefully it'll be worth something maybe.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Well clearly the best part of it is the stormtrooper
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: blasting Kennedy. Yeah, right, that's part.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, I'm all turned around here. Yes, there's actually
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: multiple stormtroopers shooting multiple people in this. It's very violent
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: of the six sixty six.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just noticed that before. I was like, oh, okay,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: that's it's all happening. No, it's pretty well together.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Yo. You see the big Lebowski.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, the room, the room together.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: You know what I want to do, and I don't
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: have friends to do this. So if you guys ever
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: want to like come down to South Florida and do
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: this with me or anybody who's watching this right now
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: at this concept with me, Okay, follow me. We're going
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: to do a big Lebowski party and everybody has to
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: dress as a different character, Like you'll have like the
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: guy that you know, the heyesus, the purple bowler Donnie.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: You're going to have like the Germans, you're gonna have.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: I was just thinking of the guys in the pocket
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: lot with the radio or whatever, the guys.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I want to be the rug that ties the room together.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Like I would just wear a rug, but like I
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: would tell people like, don't piss on me, Like you
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: can't piss on me because like I don't know you
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: like that, So just keep me clean.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: But this is getting very niche. But I really wanted to.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I want to party, to be at a bowling alley and.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Oh that'd be perfect, of course, yes.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, And so somebody has to bring a coffee, like
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: a coffee here for Donnie, the most modest receptacle.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I just this is my dream. Don't have enough friends
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: that are into the ship anything out there. Let's let's
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: get this party for me.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Yo. If that happens, let me know I'm down. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: love that movie Jessica. Yes that is.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's crazy sucking dick for ten thousand
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: dollars or some ship.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go find an atm.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, but yeah, make it happen.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: The missing to my rug idea, I just.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Know that is. I like that, the thing that ties
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the room together. I love it. That is fice as
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: you said. That was the first thing I went through
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: my head. It was like, fucking big Lebski.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: That's the best movie. All right, I'm gonna say this,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: that's the best movie ever. Already say here's what you
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: need to do. I don't know, everyone, I don't know
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: if you part take get really really high.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, watch the ship stop, smoke.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: A bowl, get really really stone, put on the Big Lebowski,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: get yourself a big old thing of water and salted peanuts.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You will have the best time of your life.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: I was thinking you were gonna do, like, what does
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: he drink?
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: He drinks the Russian, only drink white Russian.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: A fan.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: I can't believe I said that white Russian. I used
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: to my grandmother's favorite drink.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: All right, I've had those fun.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I used to drink and I got made fun of milky.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: It's milky, Yeah, it's pretty milky.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not fans of milky things.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I can't do. I can't do liquor anymore. I'm too old.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Well, you guys are all invited to my Lebowski party. Everybody,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: all the people.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It sounds awesome.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Ready, Florida Bowling Alley. That sounds well.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Get one of the really old bowling alleys too, like
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: the real shitty ones.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I don't want to do it'll.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: End up being a Florida man, a Florida woman.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: News newspaper article out of this sounds good to me.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Anything else about this place that, uh, that you guys
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: want to like, maybe mention it that you remember or
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: something that you haven't talked about yet.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: What Hamilton?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, J didn't just say something about you having like
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: an attachment or something at that location, because I remember.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, she actually while we were there,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: there was she said she felt something dark while we
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: were I was talking to her on the phone before
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: you guys got there. I don't remember when it was.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: She she did mention something about she had a and
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: she actually in this dream. Do you guys remember in
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: d C where the plane took off and hit the helicopter. Yeah,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: she dreamt about that while I was at Hamilton, about
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: a week before it happened, and she said there was
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: something she couldn't shake it either or something dark. I
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: had that plane crash dream. After the investigation, Yeah, yep,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: pretty gnarly.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: I just remember after, you know, after I had my
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: experience where something through the spear box said my last name,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: my maiden name. I was freaked out, and I'm like,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I got to go outside. I gotta get outside. And
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: you know, I remember being outside, you know, with the sage,
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: and I really only do sage when something is really
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: has really got me shook.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I'll just say that I'm not somebody who stages all
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: I really don't. I think I've only done it like
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: three or four times. But I'm like, I need to
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: feel clean of whatever that was. And I was outside
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: and then you came outside and you were doing it too,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: and you're like, hey, might.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: As well, you know, we had a little sage party.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: But I don't know it. Definitely, I would say, you know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not psychic.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: I don't claim to be psychic, but I do feel
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: I can say doing this as long as I have been,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: I am sensitive to the point of like walking into
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: a room and being like, oh, that feels a little
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: heavy in there, you know, like I feel like a
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: shift in the feeling of the space. And I felt
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: constantly while I was in that jail, I felt not wanted.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I felt like I really shouldn't be there. I felt
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: watched and I felt like something just wanted me to leave,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: and I just, you know, the whole time I was there,
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: I felt very uneasy. And I usually get pretty comfortable
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: after a while in a space, and you know, I
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: had all my people with me.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: It's not like I was alone the whole time, but
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: I just couldn't.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Shape that feeling, and I really felt nervous, I would
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: say is a good word. When I was doing a
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: solo in the in the solitary confinement, I just something
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: about that room just didn't feel good. And I really
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: I was trying to wait a certain amount of time.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: I don't remember what we agreed upon, like Okay, we're
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: gonna wait five minutes or something, and I remember I
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: was looking at the time.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I gotta I gotta hold out for
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: this few minutes, but I really want to get out
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: of those room. I think, yeah, something like that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just I think that space really, you know you feel,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: and especially as a female in a jail, I think,
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: you know, you also have that other layer of like
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: if there are male spirits and they haven't seen a
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: female in a while, either, you're going to get all
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: kinds of negative reactions. And I think just whatever, whatever
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: it was, it could have been me provoking because I
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: did do the provacation, or it could have just been
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: because I was a female and I was in their space.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was wonder both, but it
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: didn't feel welcoming at all.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is interesting.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: No, I would definitely take take take, you know, take
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: consideration of your whatever feelings you have in emotions feel
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: when you go into those places.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: I mean I investigate places all the time.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: I investigate schools, I investigate hotels, I investigate you know, hospitals.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I've done all kinds of places. I've done homes, I've
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: done lfehouses.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think everything is negative, but I
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: think a lot of times in prisons, jails, yes, you're
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: going to feel a little bit of a darker vibe.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: It's not it's not a daycare. It's not you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: a place of happy, you know, singing and dancing.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: It's it's dark stuff.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of heavy emotions in
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: a dream.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, Oh this guy knows. Yeah, No,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. For sure. I mean, just.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have to say the heaviest place I've
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: ever been to was Veliska up in the parents room
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: where the parents were sleeping when they got bashed.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: You know the story of Bliska No no.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, guy was camping out. It's up in Iowa. It
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: was a guy camping out in their attic and the
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: whole family went to sleep. It was the father, the mother,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the two girls, and one of their friends sleeping over
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: and a guy was sleeping or camping out in their attic,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: which their attic is attached to the parents' bedroom. There's
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: like a little tiny door that separates the attic from
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the bedroom. Well, he was in there when they all
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: went to sleep, and he snuck out, took an axe,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: flipped it blunt side, and just beat they He beat
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: them all to death, all the kids, the parents actually
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: in the parents room, which is where I felt the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: heaviness when I walked up the steps. The guy took
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a swing with the axe and he swung it back
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: like that, and there's an axe mark in the wall
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: where the blade hit the wall, and then he swung
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: it down and hit the parents. Wow. But that top
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: landing right there is the heaviest I've ever felt. In
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: an investigation, we go live. Every time we go to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: a new place or every time we go on an investigation,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: will go live first just to chat with the you know,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: the members and whatever. And in the live you can
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: hear me talk about how heavy that landing was where
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: the parents room. Also, it affected me and I was
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: in a sour mood all night.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: But however, that's well man, Yeah, that's.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: One of those through crime stories, just like Lizzie Borden.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: You know, everybody has their opinions on who did it,
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: but there's really no way to solve it at this point.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: There's a priest something happened.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: I also think it could have been Yeah, I think
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: that there's the most amount of evidence points to him.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: But there was a couple other people too that were
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: yeah yeah, but it's definitely you know, I don't think
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: it's solvable at this point in time. You know, this
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: late in the game, but a lot of people like
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: to have their theories.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Of course, you got your guys, have any investigations coming
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: up that are you thinking about.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Or got in the works.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: We don't personally have anything. I have such a thick
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: backlog of videos who bluss you, sir? Such a thick
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: backlog of videos that I'm trying to chip away at
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: right now. I'm like a year and a half behind.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: I went and film stuff that was like a cold
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: architecture from three years ago I still haven't made and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: covered so.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Very good, very good.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm not doing that.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just like, that's so much more time
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: consuming than what I normally do for my show.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, but like we have every Wednesday,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: we do a live stream, so that's to keep up
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: with everyone. Hey, look we're still alive. We haven't died yet,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: but I'm actively behind the scenes working on these videos.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Nice, that's great. All right.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: You know, I figured if you had anything coming up,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I let you guys plug that. But maybe
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: in the future I can get you both on and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: talk about another investigation you did, you know, because you did.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: You guys did like two or three of them, you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: said together, right.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in Cramarty and the train depot or the trains museum.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Nice nice, all right, cool, all fun.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well about an hour and you guys said you
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: had about an hour, so I think maybe we could
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: just wrap it up here. Actually, is there anything else
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: that you guys wanted to add or say about the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: place or you guys, good.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: No, but Jessica doesn't have a point. Her and I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: do small investigations.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Nice we do.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I mean we we investigated a country club that really
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: affected me when I went in there. It's an abandoned
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: country club. I got effect instantaneously drained through the entire night.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: It was bad.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: And my camera kept dying. And have fresh batteries, I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: bet you.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: That's always something that stuns me when batteries get.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah where, Yeah, it's always like a very shocking thing
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: when that happens.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: You know, it's pretty often it's like, what's my camera dying?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, I just put a new battery in it,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and I popped it out and popped a new one
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: in and that one drained pretty quick too, throughout the night.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I can't remember where I went. It was somewhere in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: North Carolina. It's pretty bad. I can't remember Mount Pilot.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: I went there with a couple of people that I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: knew from an event Cosmics on the twenty twenty five,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: and like it. The mountains actually made out of like salt,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: so basically it's like one big gigantic crystal technically, And
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: people have said that, like, you know, they'll pick up
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: like weird shit from the place, and they said sometimes
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: it's known to drain.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Batteries, and like, I believe that happens.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: It's just sometimes I'm just gonna makee it sometimes on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: paranormal like I question if they're all authentic, you know
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you know, if there's any embellishment. But
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: it happened to me, and I was like, God damn.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, that shit really happens.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: I had half a count, I had half the ice
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: was filming at the bottom, and I wanted to make
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: sure I left at least half the battery for the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: When I got to the top, and as soon as
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: I saw it go from three to two, I was like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: all right, I shut it off, put it you'll put
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: it on for maybe a few minutes.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: That thing was at half battery and just dead like that.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, yo, what the fuck? When I was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: at the top and I was like, god damn, I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: sit there and question it and there it happened to me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: There's a reason it's very weird. Yeah, camera batteries, I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: carry them with me a reinvestigation.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have multiple ones now because of that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: situation about extra batteries.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: But uhs not authentic.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: True.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have we have a bunch of actually Zach
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Baggins haters that are fans of this show.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I will say one thing about the guy.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: I you know, I think a lot of what he
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: does is total bs. But he's brought paranormal into everybody's home.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows what ghost Adventures is.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: He's taken a little bit of that edge off of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: things being super scary. I think it kind of normalized
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: it a little bit for a lot of people, and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: most paranormal investigators if you speak to them, you know,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: like what what got you into this?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: What were you? What interests you?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people say, well, I don't
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: really like it anymore, but I was interested in Ghost Adventures.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: I think it was a kind of jumping off point
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: for many people that got you into what they were doing.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: They were always using different equipment, and you know, like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: I know, I nerded out, especially like when I first
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: sat down and I got to use those things that
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: I saw on the shows. Wow, I get to use
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: a spearbox. Oh this is so cool, you know, oh
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: an ovulous, Oh my god, you know, and I think that,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I will give the flowers in that sense
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: that you know, they did a.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: Lot for the paranormal. They've gotten that.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people can go out and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: investigate certain places because maybe they saw it on ghost adventures,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: and those places want to make money, and they're like, hey,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: you know, we're a museum, but we're also.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Open for paranormal investigation.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: You know, and maybe twenty thirty years ago you would
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: not have quite as much of that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: You know, dark tourism is a thing.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: It makes money, and it helps these places that are
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: in trouble.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: I know my museum that I you know, I volunteer
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: at and we do paranormal investigations for them. We don't
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: take a dime. All the money we collect for our
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  Speaker 5: investigations we give to the museum. So we keep them going,
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  Speaker 5: keep them open, and they like doing investigations because they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we have the daytime crowd that likes coming
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  Speaker 5: to see the history, but then we have the nighttime
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  Speaker 5: crowd that is interested in the ghosts. Like why not
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  Speaker 5: take everybody's money, you know what I'm saying. So you
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  Speaker 5: got to give him a little bit of flowers on
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  Speaker 5: that because he has done he has opened a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of doors for everybody in the paranormal. But I think
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  Speaker 4: he is kind of you know, he's kind of a drink.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I I'm going I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna give him a little bit, a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: sweetness for that.
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  Speaker 3: I was at the Arkansas Paranormal thing last year and
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  Speaker 3: there was a couple of people, obviously, they are a
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  Speaker 3: couple of mostly everybody there was paranormal obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But there was like a couple of big names. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to see what they were.
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  Speaker 3: And I had asked them the same thing about like
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  Speaker 3: Zach Beggins. You know, they all said exactly what you said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they said, they said, well, some of them
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  Speaker 3: are straight up and like he's a fucking idiot. But
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  Speaker 3: they said unfortunately, they said, you're gonna have to give
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  Speaker 3: this man the credit due. They're like, if it really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't for him, they don't think the paranormal would be
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  Speaker 3: so acceptable and so huge right now. They said, what
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  Speaker 3: that guy did for the industry though, or at least
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  Speaker 3: did for getting it out there, They're like, you can't
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  Speaker 3: knock it.
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  Speaker 1: That guy did the.
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  Speaker 4: Day, but.
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  Speaker 2: Give him credit. But he is still dildoh bil Do Baggins.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so all right we'll wrap this up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, Eddie, real quick, let everybody know what's
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  Speaker 6: up with you.
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  Speaker 3: Where they can find your lives. Remind him about your
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  Speaker 3: lives Every Wednesday and you're showing it.
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  Speaker 2: Look up paranormal fifty four on the YouTube's uh, we're there.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a picture. You'll see the the link matter
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  Speaker 2: of Can I type a link?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, can I Yeah? If I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a member, yeah, you can post it in the chat. Yeah. Nice,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put it in the show notes too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm stupid.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking it up myself now so I can follow you.
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  Speaker 3: I like like watching like paranormal lives.
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  Speaker 2: Actually that should be uh, that should be good, right, No.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't see it on my side.
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  Speaker 1: I'll twist it in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just check her on in.
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  Speaker 1: There if you do.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what, you might have to be
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  Speaker 3: a mod to actually put a link in there. I'm
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  Speaker 3: totally wrong. I'm sorry, sorry about that.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you got fifty four Every Wednesday, eight
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  Speaker 2: pm Eastern we go live. Nice dropping it's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Gene has been on there before a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Roll one up, roll one up and twisted on.
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  Speaker 2: Man right, hey tear Jackson four twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, thank you? Yeah, yeah she can, and I think
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  Speaker 3: she's a monster. She know she's not a shad maker one,
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  Speaker 3: but all right, yeah, yeah, all right. I'll make sure
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  Speaker 3: I include it in the show notes when we end.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, people please go, definitely go check that out.
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  Speaker 3: And Gina, please let everybody know what's up with you,
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  Speaker 3: and remind people about the book as well.
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  Speaker 4: Please absolutely so.
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  Speaker 5: If you guys are into the paranormal or if you're
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: interested in cemetery magic, I've got a book out called
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  Speaker 5: etchtin Stone Decoding Hidden Meanings and Cemeteries. It's a fun read.
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  Speaker 5: It's I kind of set it up kind of like
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  Speaker 5: a treasure map. So if you've ever been interested in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: walking around old cemeteries, I know it's always been something
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  Speaker 5: I like to do. I found a whole community of
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  Speaker 5: weirdos that also likes to do this, and I wrote
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  Speaker 5: this book to kind of give you a little insight.
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  Speaker 5: So if you're on your next cemetery walk, or if
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: you're visiting a family plot and you want to see
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  Speaker 5: maybe what your ancestors put on.
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  Speaker 4: Their headstone for importance.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's a whole world of hidden meanings in
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: the artwork carved into headstone. So I have a whole
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  Speaker 5: book and it's set up kind of like a treasure map,
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  Speaker 5: and in the back there's also like a quick you know,
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  Speaker 5: alphabetic guide, So if you want to just quickly see, hey,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: what does ivy mean or what does a rose mean?
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  Speaker 4: Or what does an inverted torch mean? You know, you
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: can kind of quickly flip through it.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm also I'm a paranormal investigator, so I put
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  Speaker 5: a lot of my content on Instagram. I do little
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  Speaker 5: short reels and I post photos from my investigations. I'm
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: at she Haunts and I also have a paranormal team
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  Speaker 5: called after Life All Stars, so you can check out
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  Speaker 5: my team, you can check out my videos.
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  Speaker 4: I like to put a lot of fun content up
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  Speaker 4: as well, so it's not all doom and gloom.
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  Speaker 5: I like to, you know, put up some stupid music
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  Speaker 5: and you know, do fun little videos here and there.
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  Speaker 5: So I like to lighten up the paranormal because it's
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  Speaker 5: not all It doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.
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  Speaker 4: It could be fun too.
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  Speaker 5: So and also I put all of my links for
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: all you know, podcasts that I've been on everything. You
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  Speaker 5: can even see my previous episode here on accult Rejects
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  Speaker 5: on my website, she haunts dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, I will say too.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I was just thinking like, if you know,
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  Speaker 3: for people, and I do know that there's especially in
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina, I've come across a lot of account where
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  Speaker 3: people are really big into the graveyards, your book would
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  Speaker 3: actually be great to have with you when you're walking
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  Speaker 3: through any connections.
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  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of visuals in it too, so
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  Speaker 5: that it's nice. I didn't want it to read like
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  Speaker 5: a TV guide.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to read like a map that you were
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: bringing on, you know, a hunt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what I what I thought was interesting. Not
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: again to bring it back to the occult. And I'm
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: pretty sure you have no idea who this is, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, uh insinuating.
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  Speaker 1: That you are an occultist or a witch.
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  Speaker 3: But for people, if there's any ogs that remember like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Scott Cunningham's Crystal or Herbs books, her the way that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: she had it very much reminded me of that because
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: like in the beginning, he'll go into like detail, but
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  Speaker 3: then in the back you can find everything alphabetical if
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  Speaker 3: you just want to find it real quick, and a
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  Speaker 3: couple of little things. When I was going through the book,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit, this is totally reminding me
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: of like skut gunning him, so it was. It's actually
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: pretty impressive and it's like a good in my opinion. Again,
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  Speaker 3: it's a good reference book for symbols and shit in
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  Speaker 3: the cemetery. So definitely check it out. Yeah, no, definitely
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  Speaker 3: check it out. Thank you both again, Eddie, Gina, thank
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  Speaker 3: you very much for coming on. That was a blast
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: and I knew it was going to be and I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: look forward to having you guys on again. And uh yeah,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: maybe sometimes Eddie could get you and your girl on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know if you get her on.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, well you can always come on
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  Speaker 3: and talk about your stuff, so you know, in the future,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: all right, yeah, yeah, I'll think it'll be fun.
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  Speaker 1: So uh yeah, and thank you everybody in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's up.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate some of the questions, some of the comments,
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  Speaker 3: and uh yeah, until the next one, everybody be well later.