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The One Where Lala & Brock Davies Squash Their Beef · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, beautiful people. It is La La Kent with my
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  Speaker 1: right hand and my brain. Jessica Walter. Hello everybody, dude,
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  Speaker 1: we got Brock on the podcast today.
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  Speaker 2: Very exciting.
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  Speaker 1: We're pre recording.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a few days because when this airs, where
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  Speaker 2: will you be.
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  Speaker 1: Lalla, I'll be in Mexico. We're Brock and Sheena's wedding.
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  Speaker 2: That's really exciting.
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  Speaker 1: It's exciting. I'm so happy for them. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: know how I feel about just marriage, and I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did, But you know what, I am totally happy
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  Speaker 1: to go and celebrate love. Yeah, so that is and
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Summer Moon. There's just nothing
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  Speaker 1: sweeter than, you know, two people just acknowledging the love
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  Speaker 1: they have. Yeah, and like making a commitment before. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind it's going this way, making a commitment
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  Speaker 1: before go in this little human being that's a part
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  Speaker 1: of both of them, goose beautifully. I'm like, fuck marriage.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's so exciting.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like, I'm gonna look at all the
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  Speaker 2: stories and see what everyone wears. I'm dying to see
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  Speaker 2: Sheena's dress.
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  Speaker 1: I am too. Do you know what you're wearing. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna leave doing this podcast, and I need
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  Speaker 1: to go shopping. I need to go shopping for Mexico. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So you know how I took Ocean to
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  Speaker 1: Newport Beach. Yes, So we were staying in a hotel
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  Speaker 1: room and there was the pack and play that I
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  Speaker 1: put her in, and you know, she's very easy, like
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of just adjusted to the way things are
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  Speaker 1: because it's been an adjustment from the time she was
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  Speaker 1: seven months. So like I can leave the TV on
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  Speaker 1: and have her in the same room as me and
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  Speaker 1: she'll go to sleep, right. Yeah, But this night, Gigi
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  Speaker 1: was getting her super highee and she was like putting
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  Speaker 1: hats on, rolling around, and everybody in there commented and
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  Speaker 1: they were like, you need a slumber pod. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what is this slumber pod? Yeah? I look it up.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a full on like pod, like a tent,
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  Speaker 1: okay for your baby.
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  Speaker 2: That you take on trips. Yes, And it's just like
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  Speaker 2: they sleep in there.
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  Speaker 1: They sleep in there. I mean, I'm gonna show you
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  Speaker 1: a picture, but I'm telling you what it was like,
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  Speaker 1: one message after the other saying you need a slumber pod.
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  Speaker 1: So now I'm going to look into just getting one,
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  Speaker 1: because slumber pod, I mean I kind of want to
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  Speaker 1: get in it. Let me say, oh, this is so cool.
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  Speaker 2: It legit looks like a tent to google it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like a tent.
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  Speaker 1: You know what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at those those little things that bend. That's
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  Speaker 2: probably hard to set up too, just like a tent.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really think a tent setting up a tent?
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  Speaker 2: I have tried so many times and failed every wee.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it came highly recommended. So if any of my
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  Speaker 1: moms out there have a slumber pod, just is saying,
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  Speaker 1: it looks very complex.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like a ten, you guys, it looks like
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  Speaker 2: those Well.
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  Speaker 1: Look at what you do? You put it over the
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  Speaker 1: pack and play.
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  Speaker 2: Oh maybe it just folds then.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it does. I don't know, but I think I
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  Speaker 1: might get one, and it looks like it's easy to pack. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that happened, And also a lot of people asking me
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  Speaker 1: how ocean sleeps through the night. They're like, I have
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  Speaker 1: I went through my DMS today and it was like
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  Speaker 1: one after the other, slumber pod, How does ocean sleep
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  Speaker 1: through the night. I don't know how I got that
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  Speaker 1: to happen. My friend's kids usually wake up in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the night. Ocean has slept through the night
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  Speaker 1: since I want to say, like six months. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I did sleep train, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask.
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  Speaker 1: I did, okay, And obviously as a mom, you know
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  Speaker 1: your kids cry. You know when they're fussy and they
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  Speaker 1: just need to self soothe. You know when something is wrong,
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  Speaker 1: you know when it's a diaper change. So when I
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  Speaker 1: would put her in there, and it was hard because
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  Speaker 1: you hear your kid fuss and you want to go
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  Speaker 1: in and cuddle and protect them. But I also know
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  Speaker 1: that it can become a nightmare. You know. I slept
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  Speaker 1: in my parents, But until I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like twelve, you did, Yes, why I was just terrified
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  Speaker 2: of everything.
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  Speaker 1: Of everything was Easton the same way. No, really, he
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  Speaker 1: was a champion child. So that's why I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sleep train even though it is hard, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it'll be worth it. And I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I put her down between seven and eight. That chick
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  Speaker 1: knocks out. She woke up today at like nine thirty.
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  Speaker 2: She's so healthy. It seems every time I see her
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  Speaker 2: she's had Because I've nanny before I've mentioned that on
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  Speaker 2: the podcast, and sometimes I would come in and the
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  Speaker 2: babies would be like they looked exhausted. Yeah, and all
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  Speaker 2: day they'd be lethargic, and I'm like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: And I bet it's cause I mean they woke up
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  Speaker 2: throughout the night and you can tell she gets a
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  Speaker 2: lot of sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, she's revived.
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  Speaker 2: She's a revived.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she had like a long day the day
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  Speaker 1: before because she was elsewhere at the La Zoo, which
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  Speaker 1: literally killed me. Everyone knows how I am with an
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  Speaker 1: animals deep dive into certain zoos.
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  Speaker 2: She went to the La Zoo, So the La Zoo
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  Speaker 2: is not a one that we support.
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  Speaker 1: I've never done to me. Love that she was there, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like great, just having fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, I have to personally, this is just
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  Speaker 2: me I have to do. I haven't been to a
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  Speaker 2: zoos since I was like thirteen. But I have to
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  Speaker 2: do the research because if they're not one of the
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  Speaker 2: good zoos, nope, I want them to shut down, yeah
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  Speaker 2: and hand over their animals to one of the good ones.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much wrong with this world, like the you know,
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  Speaker 1: we posted about the carriages in New York and then
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  Speaker 1: now it's like, yeah, yeah, the horse rider and now
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  Speaker 1: showing where they stay.
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  Speaker 2: And I regret now not saying something because in New
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  Speaker 2: York I was like, it's sick, it's disgusting. And now
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  Speaker 2: I regret not shaming the people on them, you know,
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  Speaker 2: who were going on them. I know now I like,
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  Speaker 2: I have been texting my best friend from home who
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  Speaker 2: lives in New York, and I'm like, when can we
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  Speaker 2: set up a protest, like we need to be shaming
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  Speaker 2: everyone who's paying for this.
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  Speaker 1: Like they're protesting right now. And we go to Bravocon
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  Speaker 1: in New York in October and I think I may
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  Speaker 1: roll up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll go with you and shame all of them,
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  Speaker 2: Shame all them way up, y'all. I'll hold like, hold
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  Speaker 2: pictures or hold posters of the facts how many horses
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  Speaker 2: die per year from the carriage rides.
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  Speaker 1: And that fucking like whatever they call the guy the loser,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll say, get the horse up. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to fuck him up so bad. I'm not violent, but
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you stupid piece of shit. Yep, this
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  Speaker 1: poor animal with no voice, and this is how you're
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  Speaker 1: treating it.
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  Speaker 2: Taking the whip, get up, get up, and I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Wiss his act.
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  Speaker 2: He's discussed his and the horse was already skin and bones.
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  Speaker 2: I know, already abuse.
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  Speaker 1: No, it makes me say, go to my Instagram, sign
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  Speaker 1: the petitions that I'll be posting. Please. I will not
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  Speaker 1: let up. I will continue to be the crazy person
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  Speaker 1: that trolls anyone who goes to a zoo and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: do research, anyone who goes on these horse and carriage rides,
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  Speaker 1: anyone who goes to Sea World, I turn into an
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  Speaker 1: Instagram troll. Educate yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't stress enough you guys, with the research
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  Speaker 2: I've done, how there is no because I've so many
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  Speaker 2: people dm to me and they go, well, my town
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  Speaker 2: does it in Christmas. But it's okay, No, No, do
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  Speaker 2: the research, your basic bitch ass wedding with your horse
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  Speaker 2: and carriage when you're like you and your husband, oh
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  Speaker 2: because you want to be Disney princess.
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  Speaker 1: For the day. God, none of it's okay. Judging you,
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  Speaker 1: judging you so hardcore. The other thing I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about before we go into the Brock episode, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for, is I feel like I'm cheating on
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  Speaker 1: housewives because I have become addicted to Jersey Shore. I
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  Speaker 1: can't stop. I cannot stop. And now my mom is
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  Speaker 1: also very invested in Ron Sammy and I'm like, they
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  Speaker 1: don't end up together. Mom, This was like two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight or nine. They don't end up together. And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, well why, and I'm like, you'll see just
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  Speaker 1: I love Sammy.
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  Speaker 2: Also, you said you would take Polly D to the
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  Speaker 2: smushroom or smash room whatever back in.
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  Speaker 1: The Vinnie Vinnie's very sweet. But I think Polly D
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  Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore is so funny.
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  Speaker 2: The hair I couldn't get fast.
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  Speaker 1: The hair, Oh, the hair makes it him walking around
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  Speaker 1: saying caves here, yeah, shirt time. The whole thing is
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  Speaker 1: like everything's working. I don't know why, but it's working
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  Speaker 1: for me. That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: Do you watch the Jersey short the ones that are
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  Speaker 2: out now?
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: No, because I started on season one and then I'll
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: maneuver my way into family vacation, family vacation. Oh I
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: called it family reunion. Okay, maybe it is family. I
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: think it's vacation. Who knows. All I know is it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched Housewives in like an entire week, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel so good. You'll get back to it. Get
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  Speaker 1: back to it anyway. We're gonna take a quick little
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  Speaker 1: break and we will be back with she is baby daddy, she.
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  Speaker 2: Is baby daddy, and now husband when this comes out,
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  Speaker 2: maybe yes, congratulations husband.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back. Welcome back. We have
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  Speaker 1: my boy where every time he arrives and go croiky.
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  Speaker 3: Welsh baby. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: We're good? How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's been good. It's been a good day.
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  Speaker 3: A little stressed out with the timing of everything coming up,
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  Speaker 3: but super excited. To be honest, we just had to
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  Speaker 3: cancel flights and read books all the flights.
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  Speaker 1: So no, Sheina texted me this morning and said, I
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  Speaker 1: need to know what flight you're on. We booked our
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  Speaker 1: flights in April and now they've completely switched it up.
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  Speaker 1: They have us doing layovers.
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  Speaker 3: And then we were gone to Houston with a warning
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  Speaker 3: this morning that your flat might be canceled delayed because
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  Speaker 3: of storms. And so I was like, honey, we can't
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  Speaker 3: do that flat. So now so looked at and we
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  Speaker 3: actually jumped on the next day. We'll lose like six
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  Speaker 3: hours about it works out better for summer. Everybody trying
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: flying out there.
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  Speaker 2: So are you flying with summer? Is she flying on
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  Speaker 2: a separate fly?
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  Speaker 3: Look? Some is flying straight with us. She's been a
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  Speaker 3: good fly. We've taken her to Hawaii once with anything
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  Speaker 3: I say this, I'll say this before, but she slipped
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  Speaker 3: in me, my arms, the whole fly, so we got
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  Speaker 3: all easy with that one. Now her nap schedules two hours,
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  Speaker 3: so the flights are around ten, so hopefully we'll be fine.
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  Speaker 3: Knock her right out, knock around, she'll take a nap,
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  Speaker 3: and if she doesn't, let's well, I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I've Ocean has always been kind of
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  Speaker 1: on my schedule. There are days where it's like we're
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  Speaker 1: home and she gets a nap in like a regular schedule.
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  Speaker 1: And other days I'm like, you either have to take
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  Speaker 1: a nap on the beach because it's party time, or
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  Speaker 1: like you're not going to get a nap. And I'm
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: in a different situation because my kid is bounced back
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  Speaker 1: and forth, she's constantly seeing new faces. It's like very much,
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  Speaker 1: it's I don't want to say chaotic, but she kind
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: of has had to adjust from the age of seven
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  Speaker 1: months right, Yeah, she goes over to the other house.
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  Speaker 1: She's got different bottles. She goes over to the other house,
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  Speaker 1: She's got everything is different. So she kind of is
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  Speaker 1: just like very flexible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when you came down to San Diego. I honestly,
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  Speaker 3: when you put her to bed and walked out and
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  Speaker 3: I'm there with Summer, I was just kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: would she asleep? Wait?
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  Speaker 2: What do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have to rock Summer to see?
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  Speaker 3: So we were we were we were giving it a
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  Speaker 3: love good and then like ideally you'd like to make
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  Speaker 3: them feel sleepy and put them in their crib with
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  Speaker 3: their eyes kind of like doing doing the gaze yea,
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  Speaker 3: the glaze over. But yeah, we never made she was
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  Speaker 3: just asleep and this is nice, but it'll be like
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  Speaker 3: thirty to forty five minute time period. So when Lala
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  Speaker 3: visited with Ocean and her mom, now, yeah, bedtime. I
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  Speaker 3: come on girls, bedtime, I take Summer up. I see
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  Speaker 3: them go into the into the room, into the back room,
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  Speaker 3: and then they just walked back out. I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: that was like a minute, and then I was like
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  Speaker 3: I was just in my head contemplating life at that
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  Speaker 3: point as a parent. I was like, damn, I to
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  Speaker 3: step this one up.
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  Speaker 1: But then because you are like Summer's used to falling
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  Speaker 1: asleep in your arms. I'm telling you what me taking
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  Speaker 1: a long flight with Ocean would be a nightmare because
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  Speaker 1: she when she's done, wants her bed, her bubba. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want you know, Yeah, that's just what she wants.
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  Speaker 1: Like she made doze off for a second. But a
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  Speaker 1: five hour flight nightmare? Yeah, sure of it. Just going
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  Speaker 1: to Utah hour and thirty.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, how was so you have flying with
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  Speaker 3: her on the show? Flights two hours? Three hours?
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  Speaker 1: She wants to sing, she wants to run around.
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  Speaker 2: She was a lot younger though, right or.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, she was younger. I'm sure we may be
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  Speaker 1: okay now, but you guys got your flight situated. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you're the most important. Without you guys there we're
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  Speaker 1: just there watching nothing. Really, I'll see we're going for you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted. I'm excited. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Fun.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone who doesn't know Rock and Sheena are we can
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  Speaker 2: say that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Getting married.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a secret. We've been married since I've
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  Speaker 3: been together. I feel like like you asked it, what's
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  Speaker 3: going to change?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think nothing do you think the way you
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  Speaker 1: look at her is going to change? I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: did you look at her differently when she became the
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  Speaker 1: mother of your child?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because because it was it was like I got
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  Speaker 3: I saw her struggling as a parent sometimes and then
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  Speaker 3: like stepping up as a parent. So it's just like
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  Speaker 3: I see her go through painful and I see her
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  Speaker 3: like grow from it, and then there I find those
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: messages there so one hundred percent more respect and even
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: like today, like when we have our when I say
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  Speaker 3: my tits, we have our tit for tats. If I
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  Speaker 3: say something that like I normally would say which would
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  Speaker 3: be offended upset her, I generally would just let it
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  Speaker 3: rock and roll and be like okay. But like immediately
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  Speaker 3: once I said it, I knew I shouldn't say those
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  Speaker 3: things to her. I knew it hurt her. So I
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  Speaker 3: went up and again her a big hard. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that was stupid to me to say that I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the wrong, And I mean I normally no, I put
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  Speaker 3: my foot in my mouth all the time, but I
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  Speaker 3: was glad, like for her, I can catch myself, and
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  Speaker 3: I was glad I can get into that because it
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  Speaker 3: was just a lesson learned, like I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: hurt her, upset her, and then like the stuff she
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  Speaker 3: goes through already, like you guys are seeing it for
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  Speaker 3: ten years. I'm like that, That's why I get really reactive,
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  Speaker 3: right see, anyway I can do it with her. I
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  Speaker 3: want to react and save the world from her now
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  Speaker 3: and it gets me in trouble. You know, here we are.
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  Speaker 3: But now, when we first came onto the scene, it
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  Speaker 3: definitely rocked the boat of how I was really kind
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  Speaker 3: of just like short with my words shooting from their hip.
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  Speaker 3: And so I definitely need to learn that. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a lesson for everyone to see, especially once
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  Speaker 3: you see yourself on TV. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the perfect mirror.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like no one wants to see that. They're like,
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  Speaker 3: did I say that? I didn't do that? Did I?
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  Speaker 3: But you did? You did? And you got to look
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  Speaker 3: at it and then you think about it, say here
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  Speaker 3: we are.
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  Speaker 1: And then you do it and you've got to deal
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  Speaker 1: with the guilt and all that, and then relive it
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  Speaker 1: however many months later where you're like God and we've
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  Speaker 1: all moved past it. But then you get to see
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  Speaker 1: what everyone said about you and then you're just triggered
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  Speaker 1: it all over again.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about this a lot of people. Well,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: the last time people saw you and I together was
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  Speaker 1: last year at the reunion, all right, and I initial
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: he reached out to you, Brock and said, I want
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to do a podcast episode where we can squash the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: beef basically, and even though you and I have done that,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I also want to create a safe space for you
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: to kind of let people see who you are because
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I've had the luxury of getting to know you over
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: the past what has it been eight months? Ten months?
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: And you are number one. Let's talk about the cooking.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: He's a terrific all right, you're a cook, You're a chef,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: so bombed a chef Burgers, No, it is bomb so
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: like that stole my heart as well as seeing him
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: with his daughter, seeing him with Sheena. But what was
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: what was last year like for you?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: It was a roller coaster and you can say that
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: in the actual literal term of like there were so
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: many highs, there were so many lives and at the
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: end of the ride, you're kind of like left like
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: this scene there, like what just what was that you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: especially when you I thought so much, I had so
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: many values of myself. I have so many like standards
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that you set for yourself, and then when you get
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: when you see yourself back on TV, when you go
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: through all these experiences of for everybody, I couldn't be
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: prepared for that, you know. I thought I'd handle it
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: in the most appropriate way throughout the season where I
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: just turned around and I spoke about my truths and
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I left it at that. And that was the hardest part,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: was realizing I actually have to talk about this in public,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: because before we ever had any conversations like this, and
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: when we even spoke about it, when the first started
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: talking about my kids, it was on me. I spoke
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: about it with Randall, yourself and Shina when we were
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: out in Pump Springs, and at that point in time,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I felt and I felt like, oh, this, it's just
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: like I wanted to address the elephant and room like
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I do have my two kids and I've never been
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I'm never ashamed of him. I'm not any of that,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: and then try and hide that I was more ashamed
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: of kind of my actions towards how I ended up
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: in my situation. And I guess I never really spoke
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: about that because who I don't. You know, it's a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: hard thing to talk about.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to talk about and all. So
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it's such a private and delicate topic that you only
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: want to speak about that in a safe environment, you know. Yeah,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and thanks to me, I just I was like, safe
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: environment means the world?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Did you think of that though, Brock, I'm curious as
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: a viewer, you're bringing up your kids. Did you think
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: this isn't necessarily yeah, right now it's just a couple
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: of us, but it's not going to be within a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: few months.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: You know. That was where I get I'm very not
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: naive in the situation of the show. I really felt
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: like that is a part of my life. I'm not
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: ashamed of my past. I wish I could have done
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: things differently, but that was a part of That's a chapter,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: a big part of my life. And so when we started,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: when we started talking about it, I was like, now
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: we'll keep it up. I don't want to talk about it, like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: let's try and avoid. But that was for my own
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: protect that was for everyone. But you know what I mean,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't know why I wanted not to talk about
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: it because there was something there. Well, for the biggest
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: one was because my ex was never going to approve
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: of us in a conversation about it then now different story,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: but then it was kind of like we weren't even talking,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: and so to kind of have the conversation about my
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: ex how they feel about the kids, I always felt
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: like I was never entitled to have those conversations, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: so when when I was briefly talking about the kids,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, we don't see each other. I really
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to kind of like set the standard, like I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: understand a separation and a new partner with a kid.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: With Lala and Randall when we had this conversation. Now,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I think that was kind of the environment I was in.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I forgot that this is the show that you guys have.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: It's just like such an imprint on people and people
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: in print to every one of you, yourself, to La La,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: to even all the cast members. People find they find
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: their people within you when you watch the show. And
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: so the biggest one was like the aftermath of once
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the stuff started coming out was kind of like, wow,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the impact that I had on many people positive and negative,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: but you always read the negative, right, and so that
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: negative it always gets there. I was, yeah, that was Greenhorn,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: but I just didn't expect that, you know, that was
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: the biggest one.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Did Sheina warn you like before going into this situation,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: because you know she and I've always said, has one
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of the best hearts in the entire world. Sometimes Sheena
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: goes into things and she leads with her heart and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't think about because it's not natural. It's not natural
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to think about what everyone is going to think that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: watching because in real life we just live. Yes, right,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we're not worried about what Catherine in freaking South Dakota
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: thinks because who the fuck is she? But guess what,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Catherine from South Dakota got an opinion and she's gonna
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: be sliding into your dms, riding on every freaking ig blog.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You don't think about that stuff. Did she say to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you the internet is a crazy place. I need to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: know what's going on with you and your situation because
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it could very well be brought up on camera, and
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: we got to be prepared.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was definitely up. We didn't have that conversation
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: in detail, but it was more of like, I know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you don't want to talk about your kids, so don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: talk about them. And I was like, okay, cool. And
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: then so here we are in Palm Springs and I'm like,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I get it, and we talked about it,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, look like I didn't
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: want to continue this conversation. But then obviously from that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: it brought up concerns for yourself, it brought up other
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: people's concerns, and so I understand now looking back, people
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: still want to know that story. Regardless of how bad
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it was or everyone's how it happened. People still now curious, like, Okay,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: then what is that situation? Because they're invested into you guys,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: and I didn't know that. I didn't realize the impact
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you guys have on the world.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So do you feel comfortable in a cliff note version
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: talking about how old you were when you when you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: had your first two kids and what led to where
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you are today?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could do it a cliff night version.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I was very young when we met. We were like
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: sixteen when we first met in the high school sixteen
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: seventeen sorry, and then and then through that we started dating.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Then we're off and nine we're doing the high school
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: breakup get back together stuff, and then we actually fully
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: split when I moved to Europe to play rugby. And
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: then when I was in Europe, I flew her over.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: She had a boyfriend at the time. I was like, well,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: here's a flight. She came over. We caught it quits.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I remember that day we said, look, we traveled around.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: It was very a good breakup. Actually were like, we
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: traveled around the world and we're in front of the
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame in France for the last week I was
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: playing in France and we're like, this doesn't work, Like
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: we're not happy with each other. And then the next
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: day was when we found out that she was pregnant.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: That night we went out to dinner and we went
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: out to our friend's dinner and then she was like
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: across from us and she was like, oh, my boobs,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: and then all the girls kind of screamed and all
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the rugby boys we were like, okay, went home, did
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a pregnancy test and we found out we were pregnant
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: with my boy Eli wow, and so we had a conversation,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: We're going back to Australia that next week, and so
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: we went back to Australia and during that it was
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: kind of like step up to the plate. I was
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: raised the Mormon. I talked to my mom, you gotta
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: stay but and so we did. We ended up going
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: back to France for a complemel So I was nineteen
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, baby baby.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: So we did that. We went back to France together.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: We lived there for half that season. Things were going
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to well with the rugby club financially, they went under
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and so then that kind of put a lot of
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: pressure on us and all the rugby players internationally. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: then we went back to Australia. I was in a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: midlife crisis only at like twenty one at this time,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I had a professional career. I just lost it, have
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a kid, and then we're in a very toxic relationship.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And it's not for that. She traveled the world and
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: gave it all up for me to live my dream.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And that was the bigger pressure was having my partner
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: there in a different country, just supporting one hundred percent.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: So she didn't have her things, she didn't have her
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: time or anything like that, and that was kind of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: a big pressure for both of us. Yeah, and then
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: so when we went back to Australia during that period,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: of time. I moved, we broke up, we got back together,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: we went to council and then the councilor was like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: you guys don't need to be together, right, He's like
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you definitely, this is too far gone, Like there's so
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: much animosity towards each other that you're better off being apart.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: So we separated. And then as we were separating, still
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: trying to like backwards and forwards, we found out we're
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: fourteen weeks pregnant with our little girl.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: That can I tell you, that's when it happens because
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: passionate relationships will do a quote unquote passionate relationships which
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: are usually yes, yeah, but it's like the explosion of
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a fight is so passionate that the makeup us yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and people that's when a lot of babies
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: are can see.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was. It was definitely a
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: surprise for both of us.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: What's the age difference between them?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Just they're a year years and year close, so close. Yes,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: we had you lie. We moved back to Australia and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: then we had that situation pop up. And at that
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: point again it was like we went we got an ultrasound,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: We saw a full lown baby. It wasn't like a
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: fetus anymore. She was fully developed in this growing her
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: best life. So we were at fourteen weeks. So that
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: was a point where we decide how did the stay separated?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: But we're going to figure out how we go the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: next steps, but we're all broken up. I was in
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: a different state and then during that time, during that time,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I had an argument with her dad over the phone,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and that's when the domestic violence order got brought in.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: And then they related back to our three four year
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: history of just angry fighting with each other. Two back
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to when we were nineteen and we got into an
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: argument and I did slap her. Yeah, it wasn't the
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: cause of the domestic violence, but it should never have happened.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And so that way, when I speak about that, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: know I should never have done that, and it's the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: one time I have. And then in the domestic violence order,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: what was brought up was kind of my background of
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: being from New Zealand, my parents being split up, my
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: domestic violence when I was growing up, so they kind
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: of like leaned into all these things. And then I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: wasn't in court to appeel it when they served me
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: with the papers. I wasn't present because I didn't get served.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: The officer serving me, and this is ridiculous. The officer
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: serving me was out of the country on holiday, so
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: the papers sat on this table. He comes back, lets
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: me know that I didn't appear in court, so it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: been it's been upheld, so I need to apply for
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a court appearance to get it dropped. We go to
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the court four months later and it gets dropped. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: submit my evidence, He understands we got dropped, and then
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: we started talking again. I got to see my little girl,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I got to spend some time with Eli. And during
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that four month breakup period we were I was already
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: transitioning to go what happens if I can get a
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: work out in the NFL? And so that was kind
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: of where I was like, I'm not I can't play
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: rugby this season. Where can I go play professional sports somewhere?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: What can I do? And obviously she was in a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: new relationship it still is with the same guy. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: this is a very important message that never got shown
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: or talked about because I didn't want to talk about
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: their relationship. Now that now that we've made up and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: we're actually talking legend of a guy. And from the
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: beginning when they started dating and I was out of
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the picture, he stepped up to the plate. He's always
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: been there for the two kids. And that was where
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: our period of time I'm not seeing him. Once I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: moved to America, he stepped up to a point where
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: they don't They didn't need to have me or my
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: mom or my family sitting around going oh, how's the kids,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: because it's kind of antagonizing to their parenting, right, And
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: so cliff note fast forward. As we went through that
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: period of the relationship where that kid I moved to America,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: it just grew bigger and bigger apart because I wasn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: there and the kids had somebody there. And then never
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: let the conversation came up with his family. And then
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: where you're not stepping up, you say you are, but
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: you're not. And in my head, it's fun because it's
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: hard because when we've talked about it on the show
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: with everybody watching, I've never spoken about that period ever,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And in my head, I was like, yeah, I'm working
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: on it, I'm doing it, But I never internally processed
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the damage I did, the damage that affected the kids
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and what all of that. I never took that into account, you.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Know I have and obviously with my situation, and you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: hear a story like that, and you want to say, like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: why didn't you fight harder? Why didn't you give more
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of a damn? And what I'm hearing with this is
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you made the best decision for those two kids. How
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: is their life going to be fulfilled with stability consistency
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and that is very important for children. And if you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: felt like it was the best decision, and the mom
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: their mom felt like that was the best decision, it
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: sounds like you two agreed on this.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I guess we agreed on it, But I took it
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: as like you're not going to you know, I took
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: it as the immature version of like, oh, you're gonna
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: take me, Like this guy's not going to rate, Like
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I was really upset about not having access, but at
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the same time, I knew deep down that that was
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the best thing for the kids and it still is.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And say like that was the hardest thing for me
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: to kind of remind myself, like, Okay, I'm their dad,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: but I'm not the right person to raise these kids.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: They're in a good situation with somebody that is treating
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: them like their own kids. They have now a little sister,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and he's been around the whole time. He's taught and
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: it was just like it was. It wasn't an ego trip.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: It was just it was just hard to get my
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: head wrapped around fact that, you know what, I did
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: have two kids, but I wasn't a good dad for them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that being being a dad or
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a mom, that's not a right, that's a luxury. You
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: don't just get the title of a dad because you
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: shot some sperm. You don't get you don't just get
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to be a father, you know. I agree, Yes, So
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I think you saying that, you know, you were obviously
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: very young, and we can sit here and say this
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: is what you should have done, and we can go
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: back and forth all day long. The bottom line is
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: how are the two children doing? Right? Yes, it's about
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think about this all the time because
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: obviously my world blew up and you want to think
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that everything is cookie cutter. But at the end of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the day, take all the shit out of it with
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: both parents, what is going to benefit these kids so
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they can go out into the world and not have
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you know, years and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of fucking therapy to get over the traumas that the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: parents have caused. And so I respect the decision that
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you made. I respect their mom, and I am wondering
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: do they know like, do they know you?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So that was the harder part because once we
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: started reconnecting and talking to them, Wins had no problem
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: coming up on the FaceTime and being like hey, like
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: how aya, But then Eli didn't want to, and he's
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: still it's still at a point where he does because
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: for him I was a big influence with them, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: when it wasn't around he was three, but he still
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: knew that and he still felt that. So we're still
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: working on that relationship. The rule is it's up to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the kids, and so me and their mother text backwards
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and forwards. I just check in on them how they're doing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: And Trevor, their kids stepdad is this or their dad
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: is an absolute legend. He's like, well, grab a beer
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: when you're in town, Like not a problem, Like, let's
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: not make this a thing. Let's just move forward, which
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: is what I was doing. I was making it a thing,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: wasn't I I was? I was avoiding the hard things.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, younger to thought that out. And
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: then after this came out, and once it came out
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: on the show, it really just came at me with
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: like I was like, well, I just have to do it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I can't just sit there and say I'm doing something.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take care of this. How do I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: fix this? How do I step How do I solve
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the problem that I close for myself instead of just
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: putting it off and prolonging that hortshit between me and
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: my ex And now we're at a better place. So
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the fact that we're like, we're homies, but she respects
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: that I said sorry, She respects all of that. And
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: then at the same time, I just I'm so happy
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that the kids have her.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I'm thrilled about it, and I love where you are
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: right now. And you know, people can give you all
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the advice in the world, but a situation like that,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: every situation is so complex and there's so many little
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: nuances where it's like you can't even give advice or
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: say what you would have done because you really don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: fucking know. Right, Yeah, you do the best you can
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: with the situation that maybe you created for yourself that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: was handed to you. And you know, Brock and I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: have spoken about this a lot. In my mind, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: was coming from a place because I didn't know you well,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and I know Sheena and you know her picker just
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like my picker has been off on many occasions and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: where you're waving red flags in our faces and we're like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: what hit pink to me? Color blind as fuck? Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: And so I wanted to protect her because her heart
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: is so pure, right, My main goal in all of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it was just protection. In her mind, she's like, I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: found the man of my dreams and now the father
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of my child? What are you doing? Laala? Like, shut
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: your fucking mouth. Hindsight, maybe I should have shut my mouth,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should have approached it in a different way.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But again, you just do the best you can with
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: whatever situation you're in.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: And this old perspective and all informational, right, that word perspected,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: it's a killa. It's a real thing. Like we can
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: look at this newspaperodical in front of us, and we
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: can look at from different angles early times. Yeah, there's
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: only one hour and you to read this one right here,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: that's right. But in a life and I think we
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: get offended by somebody else's perceptions. Sometimes we don't and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: it's like wow, and it's like no one is, no
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: one's in it. They gets so crazy like America and
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I love it here, but there's a different world outside
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: of America on top of that. So you add cultural
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: differences and all that, and it's like I love everyone
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: about in Australia, Like, oh, you could have had the
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: same in Australia, but I'm telling you, guys, you have
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: an accent and driving America, you're going places in Australia,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just like a trade that's digging holes and having
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a chat and getting off of like that's it. I haven't.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It's iny at ten o'clock, like it's it right. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: over here you can have there's opportunities. And that was
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: a hard one for everyone. Well what about it's not
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: a cop out, bro come to America. I left my
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: family to try to get out of the hole, which
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: which was low income my mom was. We lived in projects,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: we lived in low income areas, and the only reason
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I got out of that was because my last two
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: years of school I got off at a bought scholarships.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: So that was my way out, what would it be?
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: My education horrible case in point. I never was good
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: at school, suffered from it a lot, and so growing
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: up I thought I was either going to be a
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: dairy farm on my whole life, which is what my
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: stepdad did and still does, or that was it. There
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: was no other option for me. It was building, it
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: was construction. It was trade work, hard work, and to
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: get into it, and I'm a fan of hard work.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: But then when I had the opportunity to play rugby
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: at nineteen or eighteen i started playing that, I was like, oh,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: this could be a career to get my family out
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: of the projects, you know, And so that was the
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: driving force behind it. And since eighteen when I realized
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: like I could put my body and my skills. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: was never the talented, but I'd know i'd work hard
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: at it, and that was the vision I've always had.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And then within that big vision, there was sacrifices and
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: losses that I stepped out on. But I think it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: very perspective and unfair for people to be like, well
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: what about this when you people don't understand, People don't
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: really get. And even when I came at you and
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I was ripping your head off. When I was pissed
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: off in the show, I was like, bloody rain drivers
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: and Beverly Hills is not normal because for me it
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: was a perspective of where I came from.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, I do know. People can sit
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: there and it's like if you you can't weigh in
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: on if you if you were born and raised in
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the United States and you grew up a certain way,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it's hard for you to understand, like what Brock is saying,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: if you've never been to Australia in the situation he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: was placed in, you can't say you could have done
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that in Australia. How the fuck do we know what
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you could or couldn't do in Australia.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And that's not ripping on ipswich And if
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: everyone's listening from back home from ipswitch, I love it, Pepe,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: but listen, bro it's not that if you know where
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: are you? Yeah, if you know, you know. And I
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: think with time and just understanding that and learning, there's
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: no playbook in life. And I think that's the best
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: reason why podcasts are so great, because people want to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: hear everyone else's experiences. They want to hear another perspective,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: and then they're going to get go on to those
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: same perspectives around them so they can kind of find
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: similarities in it. Yeah, and reality is there's that many
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: and not going to always agree and look at look
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: at the world we're in right now.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we just and I talk about that a lot,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: like perspective and people coming from different areas, and just
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: we so often judge people just based off of what
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you see in front of you, without thinking about what
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that person has been through to get them to where
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: they are. And if we don't vibe with someone, we
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: have to at least respect the trials and tribulations they've
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gone through to get to where they are. Let's find
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: common ground. I feel like we've done that. And by
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the way, range Rovers and being in Beverly Hills, I mean,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not from anywhere that's you know, I grew up
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in a very privileged area, but I certainly wasn't driving
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: around in range Rovers, you know, as a ghost ride
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in the fucking Ford Expedition. You know, my friend's going
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to private school and you had a car, you had wheels.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, I used to love I used to love
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: my story, this one story of my mom is like, Mom,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: can I go to the movie theater. She's like, yeah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you can go to the movies. And the movie ticket
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: In Australia, a ticket to the movie is eight dollars.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Popcorn might be like two three dollars, and then like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: a ticket, it's like three dollars, so to go to
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the movies. But Mom, yeah, it's I get ten bucks
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: to go to the movies. She's like, hey, you go.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: And then so I get given ten dollars to go
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: to the movies, but I still have to pay for
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: my train ride and figure it out. So this was
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: my thing. I used to go from Mipswich to injur Pilly,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: jump on the train. If like the train inspector's gone on,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I got off and I got back on the next trainer.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I'd run off and then you jump on another carriage
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: and just get there to jump the train. And then
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: and then when I get to the get to the
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: movie theater, I'd buy my ticket. And then when people
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: would finish a movie, they would have their refill coupons
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: on their popcorn and they throw them away. So I
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: pull out of the trash, grab the refund copon, go
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: up to the front of it. Can I get a
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: fresh box and you get free popcorn? But that was
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: that was that was just like it is what I
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: wanted to go with my friends. I wanted to keep
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the normal, normal things with my friends after school or
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: on weekends. But that was how I did movies.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Then this is fascinating trends going through garbage.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what that's what it is. Trash is another
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: man's free pop ports.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So then with your it sounds like you and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Sheena probably had different upbringings or grew up a bit
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: differently a little bit. Do you think that that plays
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and how you raise summer?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Have you had to work that question?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, this is this is the question. This is
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: out life.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: By the way I've seen it, I've seen her.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Because we're both like we're doing it for the best
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: of the best, yes, and the ultimate outchemist to teach
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: her the best of us, to be honest. But yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: we definitely a conversation. You should definitely have more than
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: after six months of having a conversation with somebody dating.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: You need to have those conversations because you're you're it's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: so fun. We get to imprint on her, like we literally,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and I'm in a different situation when I was when
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I was nineteen, Yes, I know for a fact I
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: still was doing good things. But now I'm in a
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: different position to actually just enjoy those moments. But it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: definitely hard.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I know. Sheena Sheena like
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: baby baby, baby, Baby's her baby. Obviously, you know she's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: she suffered a miscarriage. Summer is her. She has been
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: through what many women have been through. I can't relate,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: but she is just that is her angel, right, not
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: saying it's not Brocks, but Brock is, like she's tough.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lie. Parenting back in the day had some lady.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You gotta yeah, Parenting back in the day was ruthless.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: We were, and I think we're realizing now the impact
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: that that has on everybody, you know, especially with especially
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: with this like what's the word I'm trying to say,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: just with kind of like the mind fuckery, the impact
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: that really has on us, right, And so we had
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: to we had a family argument slash open table, because
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: this is the best part about me is my family.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I'm the youngest of five, my mom was with the
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: youngest with my dad. He had all five kids, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: when I was three two and a half, they split up,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: and so that rocked my whole family. Were born into
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the Mormon Church, born and raised in New Zealand and
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: good old Mormons, and say we're the family that has.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: A split parent, definitely looked down upon.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: And then so my eldest brother, at the age of
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: eighteen was an Olympic swimmer. He was doing water polo
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: for New Zealand. He was crushing it then and then
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: he found a girl and then started partying and then
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: ended up in gangs and ended up in jail for
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: doing the stupid things stealing cars and this guy down
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the wrong track. And then my other brother underneath them,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: when my parents split up, it affected him differently. He
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: ran away at home at fourteen and we're half moldy,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: but he's running around with like gang members and doing
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: dumb things in and out of juvie, stealing and doing
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: dumb things. So and then my other sister that that
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: separation affected her because she ended up being an alcoholic
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: at like twelve or thirteen. Wow, and so now she's
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: like eighteen years sober.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Now, oh my god.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: So that's why that's like like sobriety when James and
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: all that. For me, I'm just like, I don't want
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: to like overstep because I don't know that. But yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: my sister's eighteen years sober. Wow, and I think she
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: I think she might be nineteen coming up to twenty.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Like she's crushing it, crushing. And so then there was
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: me and my sister, the youngest two that just saw
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a whole that I saw a whole family crumble from
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: all of that, and so I just learned from their mistakes.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I never touched a drug until I was like twenty,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: till I end on America and finished football and that
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: was the end of that closure.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Like America's great.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Who what is this cannabis?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: And even when I talk about it with my mom,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: she gets she's like, oh, drugs, it's bad. It's like
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it's better than pharmaceutical. But anyways, have.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Your has your family met?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Summer?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: So my mom and my two sisters, have my two
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: older brothers. They're ones in New Zealand, ones in Australia.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: They have not yet got. Hopefully at the end of
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: this year we're going to get back to Australia because
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the pandemic was the real thing. But my mom and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the sister, they're actually at my house right now with summer.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: They for the wedding. So they're here for the wedding.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And I picked my mom up two days ago, my
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: sister yesterday, and then my other sister comes in tomorrow
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and then we've got the wedding and then yeah, that's
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that's the best part. But that's my family, right, And
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: so like when I talk about perspective, like that's where
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: mine comes from. Like I don't want to and I
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: feel like I just want to retire my mom. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: needed her to stop working. She's a prison officer. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: don't know if I haven't bragged about that enough.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: She's a prison officer still still is.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: So she grew up and the inmates call her mom.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Is it in all women's prisoners prison.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Or men's men's max start. Yeah. So she grew up
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: with my dad. She was working in like retail for
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: her whole life, dude retail, worked at like a makeup artist,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: like we go into like those norserooms, and that was
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: my mom. And then like and then she was like,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I want to change, So she applied for the police
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: force and that and then she ended up getting a
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: government job at the men's prison. She's been there for
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: like nearly twenty years now.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And she tough. Is she a tough woman?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: She she's a strong woman. Yeah, she's strong. Like she's
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: like she's like she's strong and she just like she's
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: so much. I'm so proud of her, Like she just
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: carries her and then she just works her use off.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: So I want to That's my goal is take care
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: of my family because I learned all my lessons from
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: them and if that meant maybe those sacrifices I thought up,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: they were appropriate at the time I did that, and
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: that was with work, that was with football everything. So
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: but that's that's kind of like, that's my perspective of
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: life is because we did come from that. I remember,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: you know, when we're growing up. My mom had to
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: buy our house and that was the first house she
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: brought by herself. And I had money in the bank
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: because I lost my finger when I was four. And
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: so every year I get I got, I get a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: check because I'm sixteen percent whole body incompetent, Like my
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: limb is never going to grow back.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: What wait, what is this? I don't know this story.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: What what know?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: No to wait, let me see you. I see okay, brock,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I had no idea you only had four fingers.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I tell her when it was a crocodile.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: But I guess I could tell everyone in the real.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Story that's here for anyone.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: We do the crocodile story or the real story the
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: real store. So we grew up on the dairy farm.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: And then one afternoon I was in the yard and
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: it's a circular yard, and there's a pin in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: middle of a gate, just like a clockhand, and as
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: it rotates around, it pushes the cattle onto the table
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: to get milked. And when it gets to about seven o'clock,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: there's a side gate and you take the bulls out
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: of the side because you don't want the bulls to
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: go onto the milking table because you can't milk a ball. Yeah, stupid,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: my prospective. Everybody, there's me, four and a half years old,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: walk past this big bull and I walked raight past
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: them to get him out to the side. So I
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: walked behind him and as every day I go kiss
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: and I kind of like clack my hands like come on,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: get out, and instead of him getting up it started
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: at him and he kicked me, and so I fell
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: back onto the gate that was behind me, and it
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: just so happened that the cover was off, and then
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I rolled my hand in and it rolled in like gears,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: caught my hand and then it crushed crushed my first
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: finger okay, flangie number one, my pointer okay, and a
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: bit of the two. But then it actually crushed all
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: of my hand in. So they had to do like
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: bone graft, skin graft. It was hectic. That was wild.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Do you wash your entire hand?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I went to the well, we're on the farm,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: so we had to go to the vet in town. Well,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: this is rural. I had to go to the vet
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: and then they wrapped it up in a bandage and
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: then I had to get airlifted to the hospital, which
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: was like two hours away.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Do you remember feeling pain or were you in shock?
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Never? Pain, but I remember talking about it over and
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: over at there was the widest white I've ever seen
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in my life, which was my bone, and then there
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: was a point. Yeah, it's it's it's gnally.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: What does it have to do with your liver though,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: or is that different? Did you say liver?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: No, just like just how I was raised.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: No, I thought, limb okay, okay.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so back to how I was raised. So that
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: happened when I was four and a half, and then
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: since then, for the rest of my life, I get
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: like one thousand dollars a year. I was like, cool,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'll take that whatever like that, I mean whatever, yeah,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: And so that was going into my bank account for
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: like ten twelve years. So I had like, like, what
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: was that ten to twelve thousand dollars? And so I
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: remember my mom was buying her first house and she
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: was short, and then she cried to me. She was like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I need to use your money to buy the house.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's fine, I owned these four bricks
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: right here. But that was just that's just my mom,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Like she deserves everything, and she's taking care of five
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of us, you know, and unfortunately for her, she wears
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: her burdens through us our mistakes, she carries them as
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: her own. And so like when this came out, I
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: couldn't tell my mom to stay off social media because
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: she cannot help herself, and I just destroyed her more.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: And so this made that kind of like, yeah, do you.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Do you regret asking or anything? Lala or is it
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: just one of those things where you're like, we could
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: only do what we could do. At the time, I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: thought it was I thought it was appropriate, and I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: thought I was trying to protect Sina.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have done it very differently.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have pulled her aside and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: asked her and, you know, said are you good? Do
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you know about this stuff? I just would have I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: would have done it very differently, just differently. I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: want to say that I wish I wouldn't have brought
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it up, especially now with the situation I'm in. I'm
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: very like I used to be protective of women, I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: am like beyond protective of women now. So I think
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: had it happened after my situation, I would have been
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: much more delicate, got it. Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially Sandoval, like to say that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm on my high horse. Everyone needs to get over it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Me and the horse that's high are connected, right, I'm
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: not falling off. I'm on doors. I enjoy it. I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: am fallen off. But I would have done it differently, Okay, Yes, yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And I probably would have had the I would have
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: probably brought Brock into the situation as well, to say
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about my friend, even though you don't owe
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: me anything, just give me peace of mind for my friends.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk it out. Instead, it was more aggressive.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately that's how that's how I feel like when
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the cameras are up, they kind of like encourage that
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: they're not going to be like, hey, you should have
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: like a side conversation. You know, you kind of feel like, well,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you how I feel because other
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: people feel like this, and that's that's that's like the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: trouble when cameras go up sometimes not. And I realized
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: that after watching you know, the worst thing to do
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: was watch those last five episodes in twenty four hour
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: span before the reunion, Yeah, because then I'm just sitting
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: here just sezing, so you man on top of like
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the first half of like okay, oh here we go. Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: and it just hit me. So when I went into
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: that reunion, I don't know what. First off, I should
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: never have been in this view, I should never have
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: been at that reunion. I should never have been a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: main cast member season one. First off, because I mean,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: you got the best of me, you got all of
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: there and that was raw, but like I didn't know
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: how to handle myself. And so when I was in there,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: even Laa said she's like brocks someone because like I
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: was just I did it and then she wasn't there
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: you could be a person. So there I am just
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: yelling at a TV because I'm hurt and it's just
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: like he's crazy. Yeah, And that was like that was
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: my downfall because obviously if I could have taken a
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: second to understand that, you know what that happened. And
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I'm angry at myself, but I'm taking it out on
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: La La. I'm taking it out on everybody else. I
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: wish I had that common sense because I know that's
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: within me to have that kind of temper to slow
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: down and be aware of that. But I didn't have
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it that day, and it did not come across it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: You know the r I so I could tell you
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: were on tang you had ever right to be on ten.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I was going through my own ship. There was like
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the bigger things happening in my life than what this
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: reunion was. I was kind of zoned down. Yeah, but
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I shake things off pretty quickly. When people say I'll
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: forgive you, but I'll never forget. It's like, well, then
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: what's the point of forgiving me, because if you're never
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: going to forget, like that doesn't make much sense to me.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I literally forgive, forget, move on clean slate. So during
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that moment, it was like, what, I may feel some
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: type of way, but I'll shake it off pretty quickly,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: did you, guys, I'm no stranger to going.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Off on because because I also say because my problem
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: with that was like I never gave my I never
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: gave myself time to understand what you were dealing with. Hey,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: because we also didn't realize what we were.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Dealing with, right, you know, until we read all times.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: You know. But yeah, so that was that was another one.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: We didn't realize that on top of it. But I
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: didn't even I didn't even make it available in my
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: thought process to be like what are you going through?
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Because I was so hurt, I was so pissed, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: it was it was you know that I think the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: biggest lesson for me from that it is like when
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: you feel like I'm in that, when I'm hurt, I
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: needed people need to do better, and being like why
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: are you really hurt? Because it's not for any of
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: this it's because you're not happy with your actions from
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: back and then, but just don't repeat it. So me
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: being angry in that situation didn't help.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm the perfect person to go off on.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I mean you can. I feel
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: like we have our moments, but at the same time,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: in real world we kind of like dustle off our
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: shoulders because reality is, if there's a problem, you're the
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: problem because it's not my problem. Because you're thinking it
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: not me. It sounds like you have a problem. I'm
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: walking this way right, But in that I had a
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: problem and I should have just walked on from it
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: and be like perfect, whatever, what's the problem.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's good to purge. I think it is true.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Did either of you reach out to the other after,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: because obviously, like you said at the reunion, tensions were high.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Was there a moment where one of you reached out
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: to the other and we're like we have to talk.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I think, brog didn't you reach out to me? I
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: believe you sent me a text that said that you
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: were sorry, and right after that it was like we're good, bro.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, I think I think I did
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: reach out just because like once I once you see yourself,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, yeah, and look and I get it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And the response I got on social media was valid.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: You know, our audience. And this is another thing you
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: didn't even take ano account because I didn't think of
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: it as a show. I literally I thought of it
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: as she and a close friends and we get to
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: have this opportunity to do these great things. And that's
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: what I was was enjoying now. I was like, this
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: is such a fun season. You know, the audience that
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: watches it, the majority of them are females, you know,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you know, and then they want to be represented properly,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: especially in twenty twenty two. And so that's like a
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: big one to be aware of, you know, around the world,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Like there is a change happening and it's a positive change.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: And so my ignorance didn't help that movement, you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: And I respect that and I understand that, and so
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure I can be more aware
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: of that. You know.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I love that. We love growth. I love a good growth.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Girlth it's also good for everyone else to learn these too.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Don't make the same mistake card. It's hard to say
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: that learn from all the people, but that's why we
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: get to talk about it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're all out in these streets, just doing the best.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: We fund swing it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: To survive. I love it, Rock. Thank you so much
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: for being on the podcast being so open about your past.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: You're a fucking champion, dude.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Love you, honey. It's been great. Thanks for talking. And uh,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: let's live on the summer. It's gonna be a good summer.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I love it. We're headed to Mexico. I love you
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: guys so much. I'll catch you next week.