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Credlin | 22 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Kredlin Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. Another chilling development in the spate of
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic attacks. Police now investigating whether foreign actors or
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Speaker 2: foreign states are involved. So now the question is when
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Speaker 2: is the government briefed on this and why has it
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Speaker 2: more been.
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Speaker 3: Done or disclosed?
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Speaker 2: Day two of the Donald Trump presidency and already he's
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Speaker 2: got the establishment inner tis left leanding governments, including ours
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Speaker 2: here in Australia, scrambling to salvage.
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Speaker 3: Their woke agendas.
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Speaker 2: Plus my special report tonight into the reckless Renewables rollout,
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Speaker 2: including the serious allegations of bullying and intimidation by government
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Speaker 2: officials eager to kick farming families off their land. And
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Speaker 2: it looks like the Prime Minister's all but given up
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Speaker 2: on stamping out the rising anti semitism, failing to day
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Speaker 2: to answer questions and passing the buck to the States.
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Speaker 2: This Prime Minister needs to explain to Australians what is
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Speaker 2: going on. Where are the tougher laws against hate crimes,
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Speaker 2: Where are the mandatory jail terms.
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Speaker 4: It has been allowed to fester under a what I
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Speaker 4: would say is a weak prime minister.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with that issue because the Albanezer government continues
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Speaker 2: to be clueless at best, deliberately malevolent at worst when
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Speaker 2: it comes to tackling the UnAustralian wave of jew hatred
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Speaker 2: still sweeping our country. There have been thirteen major anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic incidents in New South Wales alone over just the
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Speaker 2: past sixteen days, culminating in the fire bombing of a
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Speaker 2: childcare center yesterday morning, and the latest federal response has
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Speaker 2: been drum roll the creation of a national database, as
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Speaker 2: if the various state police forces don't already know there's
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Speaker 2: been a surge in anti Semitic crime. That was the
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Speaker 2: sole underwhelming outcome of last night's emergency National Cabinet meeting
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Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister finally called after denying for months
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Speaker 2: that it was needed. He wouldn't call it terrorism either,
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Speaker 2: as his own Special Envoy to combat anti Semitism has
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Speaker 2: urged him to do. He didn't signal mandatary sentences for
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Speaker 2: terror offenses either, as the Opposition keeps demanding he does. Instead,
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Speaker 2: we got more hand ringing, more buck passing, and the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister ended up by saying it was up to
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Speaker 2: the states to throw the book at any offenders.
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Speaker 5: What people have right now, as Chris Mins has said,
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Speaker 5: is serious penalties in place. If anything can be looked
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Speaker 5: at with state and territory jurisdictions, they're looking at that.
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Speaker 5: News Wales and Victoria both said that they will strengthen laws.
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Speaker 2: Is it any wonder we got this then from Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutta today.
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Speaker 4: Part of the problem that we've got ourselves into as
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Speaker 4: a country has been because the Prime Minister absented himself
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Speaker 4: from this debate early on for political motivations and outcomes.
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Speaker 4: And I think that I can't recall an incident where
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Speaker 4: an Australian Prime Minister at Labor or Liberal has sacrificed
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Speaker 4: one part of our society and their security to try
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Speaker 4: and win votes in another part of the community.
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Speaker 2: Not once since the October seven atrocity and the subsequent
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Speaker 2: disgrace of Australians rejoicing in the murder of innocence outside
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Speaker 2: the Opera House has the Prime Minister grasped the depravity
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Speaker 2: of what's happening here in Australia. He's downplayed Race hayters
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Speaker 2: Mere protest and he's treated what's now a campaign of
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Speaker 2: domestic terrorism as little more than the local vandalism. Dutton,
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Speaker 2: the former policeman, called that out today.
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Speaker 4: This is going to escalate to a point where somebody
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Speaker 4: is going to lose their life.
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Speaker 6: Let's be very clear about it.
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Speaker 4: This is not somebody who was liked a nasty post online.
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Speaker 6: We're talking about a child has set of being fired on.
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Speaker 6: It is a terrorist attack.
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Speaker 4: I think we should remind ourselves of that. Somebody breaks
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Speaker 4: into the sports shed here on Saturday night and steals
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Speaker 4: half a dozen beers and they're fifteen years of age.
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Speaker 4: That is a criminal offense and the police will treat
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Speaker 4: that seriously, but it is not a terrorist attack.
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Speaker 2: Bab's most concerning out of an emergency national Cabinet meeting
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Speaker 2: that did very little last night was news of the
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Speaker 2: briefing by the Federal Police Chief Commissioner to the room
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Speaker 2: that these recent attacks targeting Jews and Israel might have
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Speaker 2: been carried out by criminals and funded from overseas well.
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Speaker 7: They're incredibly serious claims that have been made and they
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Speaker 7: need to be substantiated. More information needs to be provided
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Speaker 7: because it has struck fear in the heart of the
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Speaker 7: Jewish community, who now believe that they are the targets
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Speaker 7: of either a transnational terrorist or organization or a nation
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Speaker 7: state engaging in state sponsored terror in Australia.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 2: When asked about these AFP briefings today, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: refused to provide any further detail.
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Speaker 5: Of course, those investigations are ongoing. I'm reluctant to say
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Speaker 5: anything that compromises those investigations, You.
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Speaker 3: Weak little man.
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Speaker 2: The Opposition Home Affairs spokesman James Patterson.
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Speaker 7: Hit back the Prime Minister and Tony Burke's dismissal of
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Speaker 7: questions about this this morning is just not good enough.
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Speaker 7: You cannot put a claim out there like that with
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Speaker 7: very little detail or substantiation and very little comfort to
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Speaker 7: the community about what is being done to protect them.
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Speaker 7: It would be one of the most grave security crisis
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Speaker 7: in Australia in peacetime. If it is the case that
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Speaker 7: we have state sponsored or terror sponsored terror in our country.
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Speaker 2: Now, If if foreign actors are funding local criminals to
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Speaker 2: terrorize Australians who happen to be Jews, this is a
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Speaker 2: major assault on our sovereignty. What exactly does the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister know about foreign funded terrorism against Australia When was
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Speaker 2: he told what has he done about it? Did he
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Speaker 2: know anything about these claims before yesterday's emergency National Cabinet.
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Speaker 2: If he did, or if his ministers did, if his
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Speaker 2: office did that, it's aren't acceptable that it's taken.
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Speaker 3: Him weeks and weeks and weeks to call this emergency meeting.
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Speaker 3: Peter Dutton again, the.
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister needs to be honest here because it seems
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Speaker 4: that he's at odds with.
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Speaker 6: The strength of the Police Commissioner.
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Speaker 4: If there has been such a significant international element, what
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Speaker 4: has been the involvement of the federal agencies including ASIO
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Speaker 4: and for how long?
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Speaker 6: And why is the Prime Minister never mentioned this before?
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Speaker 9: Now?
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Speaker 4: Frankly it just gives shines a spotlight on the fact
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Speaker 4: that the Commonwealth Government should have deployed resources much earlier
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Speaker 4: to what is a rolling series of terrorist incidents in
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Speaker 4: our country.
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Speaker 2: If these foreign actors are acting on behalf of another country,
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Speaker 2: it amounts to an act of war against us. So
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Speaker 2: why is the Prime Minister so blase about what's happening?
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Speaker 2: Surely the Prime Minister wouldn't have had the AFP floating
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Speaker 2: tenuous claims as a smoke screen for his own lack
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Speaker 2: of leadership.
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Speaker 7: Well, the Prime Minister has not said whether he was
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Speaker 7: briefed on this, when he was briefed on this, whether
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Speaker 7: the National Security Committee of Cabinet has met, whether our
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Speaker 7: intelligence agencies have bread brought into this, whether he's discussed
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Speaker 7: this with our Five Eyes partners, and what action he
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Speaker 7: is taking if it is indeed true that we had
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Speaker 7: a foreign sponsored campaign of terror against the Jewish community
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Speaker 7: in our country. Also yet to be explained is why
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Speaker 7: it appears that so far Australia is unique in being
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Speaker 7: on the receiving end of this.
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Speaker 2: All of this is just yet more evidence we've got
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Speaker 2: a Prime minister who is weak and out of his depth.
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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to Camberan now for the headlines
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Speaker 2: Skyny's political reporter cam Redden Good Evening.
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Speaker 10: Federal police are investigating whether foreign actors have helped fund
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Speaker 10: or orchestrate anti Semitic attacks in Australia.
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Speaker 1: We believe criminals for hire maybe behind some incidents.
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Speaker 5: Now it's unclear who or where the payments are coming from.
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Speaker 6: Why has the Prime Minister never mentioned this before?
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Speaker 10: Now the Albanezi government has been unable to explain why
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Speaker 10: one of its senators who accused Israel of apartheid was
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Speaker 10: secretly dumped from leading a delegation to al Schwitz. An
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Speaker 10: email sent in December by senior Home Affairs officials Snee
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Speaker 10: had Chattijy and obtained by Sky News, informed Jewish leaders
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Speaker 10: that lay Baba's Senate President Sue Lyons would be leading
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Speaker 10: the delegation. But that was before Sky News broke the
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Speaker 10: story airing these comments from twenty twenty two where she
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Speaker 10: accused Israel of carrying out apartheid.
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Speaker 11: Israeli policies against Palestinians fit the definition of the international
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Speaker 11: crime of apartheid.
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Speaker 10: As recently as Tuesday, members of the traveling party were
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Speaker 10: of the belief Senator Lines was leading the trip until
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Speaker 10: suddenly she wasn't.
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Speaker 5: Penny Wong will lead the delegation.
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Speaker 8: Is it ever?
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Speaker 12: Boston Minus.
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Speaker 5: I have no idea where that came from.
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Speaker 10: We did make that decision.
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Speaker 3: I think just around Christmas.
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Speaker 7: It's there as Plann's day. She very clearly was leading
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Speaker 7: the delegation at one point.
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Speaker 10: Cameron Redden's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 3: All right for more on today's big stories.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined down by Sky News host National Affairs editor
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Speaker 2: at the Daily Telegraph, James Morrow and One Nation Chief
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Speaker 2: of Staff James Ashbury, gentlemen, welcome. I want to start
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Speaker 2: with the news that emerged today regarding a briefing given
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Speaker 2: to last night's emergency National Cabinet meeting. This is a
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Speaker 2: briefing by our Federal Police Commissioner Reese Kershaw. The claim
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Speaker 2: is that the AFP's investigating whether those carrying out anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic attacks in Australia are paid criminals and that the
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Speaker 2: money's coming from overseas. Now, despite the seriousness of these claims,
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Speaker 2: we've had stonewalling today from the Prime Minister about what
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Speaker 2: he's been told by police and when or whether it's
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Speaker 2: now an issue involving our intelligence agencies. And what's worse,
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Speaker 2: nothing concrete at all to come out of last night's
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Speaker 2: meeting other than an announcement that they'll create a new
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Speaker 2: database to track the crimes. Now, James, I want to
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Speaker 2: know who knew what when? Are we talking about a
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Speaker 2: rogue actor here like Iran? And is anyone under investigation
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Speaker 2: for these attacks? Is anyone on a visa here under
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Speaker 2: an investigation? Have we let criminal elements into Australia on
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Speaker 2: a visa?
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Speaker 3: That's what I want to know, James.
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Speaker 13: Ashby the greatest challenge that we've got here is that
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Speaker 13: we have been allowing people in, particularly from Palestine, without
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Speaker 13: the necessary checks in order to establish whether they're going
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Speaker 13: to be a risk to the Australian population and those
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Speaker 13: that we call citizens here in the country. What I'm
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Speaker 13: more concerned about now is whether we've got the resources
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Speaker 13: that are capable to deal with this genie that's been
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Speaker 13: let out of the lantern. I don't think there's anything
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Speaker 13: anytime soon we're going to be able to put this
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Speaker 13: shocking thing called anti Semitism back in the bottle anytime soon.
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Speaker 13: But the problem we've got is that we've got an
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Speaker 13: intelligence agency. Whether if you have a look at Azio,
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Speaker 13: they've got staff of around two thousand.
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Speaker 8: Then you've got the AFP.
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Speaker 13: The federal government have been more at war with them
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Speaker 13: over paid disputes than anything. And when you compare those
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Speaker 13: agencies who are supposed to be there for the intelligence
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Speaker 13: of this country, there's very few. When you compare the
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Speaker 13: intelligence of other countries, particularly Israel, they've got eight thousand
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Speaker 13: intelligence officers compared to our two thousand, and we've been
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Speaker 13: relying on other countries, the Five Eyed countries, as James
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Speaker 13: Patterson has pointed out to keep Australian safe.
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Speaker 8: I know that there's a recruitment.
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Speaker 13: Drive on now with AZO that'll carry on between this
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Speaker 13: year and next year. Is it enough, though, to keep
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Speaker 13: Australian safe as this anti semitism ramps up.
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Speaker 8: Keep in mind the federal police are busy.
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Speaker 13: They're patrolling borders, they're trying to deal with the increased
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Speaker 13: number of pedophiles online, they're dealing with drug importation. Now
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Speaker 13: they've got this added risk that they've got to deal
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Speaker 13: with along with Asio of dealing with terrorism and terrorism
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Speaker 13: that's impacting on young families and particular members of our community,
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Speaker 13: particularly those in the Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: James Morrow and like a lot of journalists the city
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Speaker 2: here talking about these issues. I've been in the National
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Speaker 2: Security rooms. I've had those briefings. I've been there the
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Speaker 2: last time we've had serious terror attacks in Australia. I
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Speaker 2: know exactly what should be going on. And to think
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Speaker 2: that it's not going on, that the meetings are not happening.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago, of course, that AZIO and
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Speaker 2: the AFP were booted out of the NSC by the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister. They were not even in the National Security
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Speaker 2: Cabinet room at all. Now, what wiries me is we're
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Speaker 2: seeing a rise in attacks and increase in the violence
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Speaker 2: of the attacks in Australia. We are not seeing that
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Speaker 2: happen around the world. So what James Morrow makes us
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Speaker 2: so vulnerable here in Australia.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's really interesting, Peter. You know, I've lived here
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Speaker 14: in Australia since two thousand and one. I have never
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Speaker 14: seen anything like what we've seen in the last eighteen months,
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Speaker 14: but really in the last you know, two or three
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Speaker 14: months in particular, where it seems like almost every day
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Speaker 14: I wake up to the news here in Sydney and
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Speaker 14: hear that there's something terrible that's happened in Sydney or Melbourne.
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Speaker 6: Or somewhere else.
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Speaker 14: And there's a lot of really big questions here if
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Speaker 14: and I think part of it comes down to the
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Speaker 14: general reactive nature of the Albanzi government and of Anthony
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Speaker 14: Albanzi himself. You know, remember after October seventh, it took
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Speaker 14: him quite a long time to call a national security meeting,
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Speaker 14: you know, like, which is something that you would want
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Speaker 14: to do right away after that sort of thing. Again here,
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Speaker 14: if he knew about or if there was intelligence that
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Speaker 14: this is being directed or financed, at least in part
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Speaker 14: by overseas actors. Well, you know, again to call national
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Speaker 14: cabinet now and really just do it as a perfunctory
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Speaker 14: exercise to fulfill the Okay, well the press wants to
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Speaker 14: call this final. Do that again. It's flat footed, it's reactive.
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Speaker 6: But I think there's.
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Speaker 14: Another element to this here beyond this. You know, we see,
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Speaker 14: we know that anti Semitism has been a terrible problem
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Speaker 14: in a lot of European countries. France had a huge
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Speaker 14: explosion of a number of years ago. Its was horrific,
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Speaker 14: and it seems like we're kind of catching up to it.
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Speaker 14: And I think part of this peta is that Anthony
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Speaker 14: Albinez he talks a lot about social cohesion, but I'm
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Speaker 14: afraid he's taken on this sort of model of social cohesion,
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Speaker 14: this almost clere Starmer model from the UK, where you
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Speaker 14: don't talk about problems and where they're coming from and
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Speaker 14: what communities may they may be coming from, because you
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Speaker 14: don't want to upset the apple cart and have people
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Speaker 14: talk about uncomfortable things. And I think that until you
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Speaker 14: recognize where you know, a lot of this hate is
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Speaker 14: coming from and the way that Labor has been pandering
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Speaker 14: to Islamic communities in western Sydney and in other seats
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Speaker 14: around Melbourne. You're not going to understand why suddenly, you know,
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Speaker 14: some bad actors within those groups may feel also that
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Speaker 14: they have a past. And I'm really worried about the
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Speaker 14: way that, as James Ashby just said, we've let this
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Speaker 14: genie out of the bottle. I don't know how you
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Speaker 14: get it back in.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you how you doing careful about who you
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Speaker 2: important to this country. You were careful about who comes here,
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Speaker 2: and you were careful about who's in your migration program.
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Speaker 2: And that's what we've I think dropped the ball both sides,
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Speaker 2: I have to say, but particularly Labor to drop the ball.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to talk continuing talk about a hung parliament.
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Speaker 2: We clearly get an unofficial campaign, let's be honest. But
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Speaker 2: the deals, the deals are already on the table from
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Speaker 2: the minor parties. The Greens want ten billion dollars to
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Speaker 2: make government schools absolutely completely free and to give kids
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Speaker 2: in public schools free supplies at the start of each year.
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Speaker 2: The Tials, well, they want a number of things. Today
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Speaker 2: they say they want truth, in advertising laws. This will
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Speaker 2: be the return James Ashby of misinformation and disinformation. The
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Speaker 2: Greens also say that if Albanese is re elected, they
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Speaker 2: want a seat in his cabinet.
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Speaker 13: Well, typically when you are in the cabinet you not
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Speaker 13: to go against the which I'd find extraordinary if the
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Speaker 13: Greens didn't didn't have their say in that scenario and
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Speaker 13: cause up people for a labor government a second term one.
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Speaker 8: Let's just hope that doesn't happen.
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Speaker 13: What we are seeing is a deterioration of the two
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Speaker 13: major parties votes. We know that from the last election
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Speaker 13: they only got into government with less than thirty three
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Speaker 13: percent of the primary I think that'll be a roaded
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Speaker 13: even further, a lot of those people are looking for
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Speaker 13: a safe place to put their vote, particularly labor voters.
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Speaker 13: I might just add we saw in the Queensland election
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Speaker 13: here a lot of people abandoned Labor. They put their
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Speaker 13: vote with one Nation and in seats like mine here
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Speaker 13: in Keppel, where I wasn't successful despite getting twenty five
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Speaker 13: percent of the primary vote, eighty nine percent of my
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Speaker 13: vote went to the LNP. Why did that happen because
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Speaker 13: we told people very carefully from the beginning, we do
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Speaker 13: not support another term of labor. In fact, we put
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Speaker 13: them and the Greens last on our ballot papers, and
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Speaker 13: we made that specifically clear to every voter. I hope
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Speaker 13: that the messaging is very clear from other conservative minor
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Speaker 13: parties and the coalition for that matter. There is no
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Speaker 13: point in the coalition speaking tough if all they're going
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Speaker 13: to do is preference the Greens over labor and give
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Speaker 13: them more power in a minority government. So we've got
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Speaker 13: to be very clear here, very strong, decisive language.
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Speaker 8: As we've seen in the American election.
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Speaker 13: That's what drove Trump to such an enormous success. He
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Speaker 13: was decisive, he was clear, and we want the same
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Speaker 13: thing out of politicians here.
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Speaker 8: If you love Trump, you should love one nation.
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Speaker 13: At this election, because we'll hold whichever party gets elected accountable.
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Speaker 13: If we hold the balance of power stuff the Greens,
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Speaker 13: don't give them that opportunity to hold a gun to
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Speaker 13: the head of whoever makes government next later this year.
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Speaker 2: Let's just stay with the polls and the election chances
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Speaker 2: of the major parties. I picked up this sayseries of graphs.
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Speaker 2: I think they're very fascinating. I'm going to show you
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Speaker 2: these tonight and have a look on your screen. These
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Speaker 2: are the fifteen month trends. Now some diabolical numbers there.
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Speaker 2: For Labor you can see obviously they're the red line.
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Speaker 2: The Libs of the coalition are the blue line. You
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Speaker 2: can see that there is major primary vote voting intentions.
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Speaker 2: We've got other graphs, we'll put them up, keep them
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Speaker 2: going team in Sydney. That's regression two pp voting intention.
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Speaker 2: That's where Labor's falling away, very very sharply. We've got
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Speaker 2: their coalition two pp voting intention. This is where people
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Speaker 2: say they're going to put their vote. This is beyond primary.
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Speaker 2: This is a mixed bag of voters, and this is
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Speaker 2: an aggregate of all the big poles. And there you
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Speaker 2: go preferred Prime Minister. Look at that gap and we
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Speaker 2: saw obviously in that Freshwater poll this week Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: has surpassed the Prime minister in terms of preferred PM. James.
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Speaker 2: I could read a poll. You can read a poll.
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Speaker 2: Can Labor recover.
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Speaker 14: Well, look they can. But looking at all these graphs, Peter,
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Speaker 14: I'm kind of reminded. I want to paraphrase Ernest Hemingway,
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Speaker 14: and you know, how did you lose the election, well
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Speaker 14: slowly and then all at once. If I was Anthony
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Speaker 14: ALBINIZI I'd want to be calling this election sooner rather
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Speaker 14: than later, because the trends are not in his favor
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Speaker 14: and he wants to get out there sooner rather than later,
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Speaker 14: so before Peter Dutton's policies are out there and fully cooked,
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Speaker 14: so that he can tear it down as many as
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Speaker 14: he can. But he's going to have to run a
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Speaker 14: very negative campaign against Peter Dutton because the only other
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Speaker 14: thing he's got at the moment is more growth in
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Speaker 14: the public sector and more throwing cash around. And I'm
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Speaker 14: not sure in this economic environment that people are really
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Speaker 14: going to buy that.
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Speaker 2: I all, what negative did personal negativity did for Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: I suspect Peter Dutton is not that perturbed.
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Speaker 3: Jens. Thank you.
20:46
Speaker 2: Catch you both next week, Okay, I know I want
20:48
Speaker 2: to return to US. You might, I think, be Donald
20:50
Speaker 2: Trumps second day in office, but already shock waves through
20:53
Speaker 2: the establishment plenty to cover. So joining me now for
20:56
Speaker 2: at Australian Greg Sheridan, Greg, welcome, he says, sort of
21:00
Speaker 2: like grand final week for you in US politics. Ship
21:03
Speaker 2: on an Australian election. Coming out, You've got it all
21:06
Speaker 2: going on. You've written today in your paper the Australian
21:10
Speaker 2: Trump is bigger, he's bolder, he's brassier than ever before.
21:14
Speaker 2: You say he's speaking for the plain American and for
21:18
Speaker 2: the sometimes forgotten majority, that he's an action man, impatient
21:23
Speaker 2: to get going. So I say to you, I think
21:27
Speaker 2: that's what the world needs right now, isn't it.
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Speaker 12: Well, Peter, great to be with you. I think that
21:33
Speaker 12: is right. You know, Trump is always going to be
21:36
Speaker 12: a mixed grill. There are going to be some gargoyles
21:39
Speaker 12: in his circle. There are going to be some weird
21:40
Speaker 12: things he says and some weird things he does. But
21:43
Speaker 12: listening to his many, many, many speeches on inauguration day,
21:47
Speaker 12: first of all, what a contrast to Joe Biden, who
21:50
Speaker 12: could barely walk onto a stage, couldn't read the teleprompter properly.
21:53
Speaker 12: There was Trump signing executive orders as he was talking
21:56
Speaker 12: to the journalists and so on. Seventy eight years old,
21:59
Speaker 12: he went to at one hundred events. So you've got
22:01
Speaker 12: to admire his stamina and energy. This is unlike any
22:05
Speaker 12: second term we've ever seen before. Second terms are normally
22:10
Speaker 12: an administration kind of slightly winding down, Well, this is
22:13
Speaker 12: much more energetic and focused than his first term. And
22:17
Speaker 12: listening to all his speeches yesterday, a great deal of
22:20
Speaker 12: what he said, maybe seventy percent of what he said
22:24
Speaker 12: represented good common sense. So he says, Okay, I don't
22:27
Speaker 12: want any more diversity, equity and inclusion. I want a
22:30
Speaker 12: color blind, merit based society. Well, who could disagree with that?
22:35
Speaker 13: He says, I.
22:35
Speaker 12: Don't want any more illegal immigration over the southern border,
22:38
Speaker 12: and he actually said I am in favor of legal immigration.
22:42
Speaker 12: I want companies, investment, and skilled workers to come in,
22:45
Speaker 12: but I'm against illegal immigration. Well, who could disagree with that?
22:49
Speaker 12: And on energy, he said, We're not going to handicap
22:53
Speaker 12: the American economy. We're going to use all the energy
22:56
Speaker 12: sources we've got. And I think huge number of Americans
23:00
Speaker 12: would have agreed with that. So populism can be good
23:02
Speaker 12: or it can be bad, but when it's well managed,
23:05
Speaker 12: it is the wisdom of ordinary common sense against what
23:10
Speaker 12: has become the madness of the American elites.
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Speaker 2: All right, just John Energy, he drill babied. Really, you know,
23:17
Speaker 2: he couldn't have been clearer with his intent. He couldn't
23:21
Speaker 2: have been more consistent throughout his campaign. He's already pulled
23:24
Speaker 2: the US out of the Paris Agreement. That was one
23:26
Speaker 2: of his early executive orders. You know, he's up ending
23:30
Speaker 2: that Climate Club. What's this mean for places like Australia.
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Speaker 12: Well, I think this completely revolutionizes the politics and economics
23:40
Speaker 12: of global climate change. The Alberanzi government's energy policy, like
23:43
Speaker 12: its defense policy, is essentially a fast insider fantasy wrapped
23:48
Speaker 12: in a kind of episode of madness. The Alberanzi government
23:52
Speaker 12: will say to you now that all but four countries
23:54
Speaker 12: in the world are signed up to the Paris Accords,
23:56
Speaker 12: but the biggest, most powerful economy and developed me in
24:00
Speaker 12: the world, the United States, has just definitively left the
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Speaker 12: Paris Cords. And it was interesting Kamala Harris did not
24:06
Speaker 12: campaign on climate change one bit. She reversed herself. She
24:10
Speaker 12: was pro fracking and so on. I mean that cause
24:13
Speaker 12: has been lost in the United States now. Then the
24:16
Speaker 12: other big emitters are not developed countries. They are China
24:21
Speaker 12: and India and Indonesia. These are the big emitters and
24:24
Speaker 12: the growing emitters. Now technically they are part of the
24:27
Speaker 12: Paris Accord, but the Paris Accord imposes no obligations on them,
24:31
Speaker 12: and they are all using every energy source they've got.
24:35
Speaker 12: China is building coul fired power stations at a rate
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Speaker 12: of knots. India is burning more cold than ever before,
24:41
Speaker 12: So is Indonesia, So is the Philippines, so is Bangladesh.
24:44
Speaker 12: So the whole world.
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Speaker 8: The only bit of the.
24:46
Speaker 12: World that is going into the climate madness really is
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Speaker 12: Western Europe and previously the United States, Canada, Australia and
24:55
Speaker 12: New Zealand, and one or two East Asian maybe kind
24:58
Speaker 12: of Japan halfway. And the story is all the European
25:02
Speaker 12: governments have been falling because of high inflation and energy costs,
25:07
Speaker 12: I mean climate change. Energy action has done more damage
25:10
Speaker 12: to the German auto industry than the Royal Air Force
25:13
Speaker 12: ever imagined doing in World War Two, and as a result,
25:17
Speaker 12: the German government has fallen apart. So this, I think
25:21
Speaker 12: is a complete revolutionary change. Now you're not going to
25:24
Speaker 12: hear this on the ABC, you're not going to read
25:26
Speaker 12: it in the c anymore, Herald or the Age. But
25:28
Speaker 12: this is a reality which the Albanesi government is trying
25:32
Speaker 12: to deny, and Trump he is changing the reality.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's nice.
25:39
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister on Climate change is a denier hey
25:43
Speaker 2: defense too. He's made it unambiguously cleary once other nations
25:46
Speaker 2: to lift their spending pull their weight. Australia too. It's
25:51
Speaker 2: had an early response from President Macron. He's telling the
25:54
Speaker 2: other NATO members they've got up their spending. How's that
25:57
Speaker 2: going to play out here? And also how's it to respond,
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Speaker 2: particularly to China.
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Speaker 12: Well, Australia has really been pursuing the Bloodg's option in
26:07
Speaker 12: defense for a long time. For a very long time.
26:10
Speaker 12: We send tiny numbers of very specialized forces into American
26:14
Speaker 12: operations like the sas in Afghanistan, and we proclaim loudly
26:20
Speaker 12: our commitment to the alliance. Meanwhile, we do nothing of
26:22
Speaker 12: consequence for our own defense. In the life of the
26:25
Speaker 12: Alberanesi government, our defense budget has not yet reached two
26:28
Speaker 12: percent of GDP, and of course no country in the
26:31
Speaker 12: world spends its defense dollar as inefficiently or insanely as
26:35
Speaker 12: Australia does. We still have no maritime armed drones. However,
26:40
Speaker 12: I think probably we'll get something of a free pass
26:43
Speaker 12: from the Americans for two reasons. One is the one
26:46
Speaker 12: thing we offer is our geography, so the only sensible
26:50
Speaker 12: defense policy the Albanese government has pursued has been to
26:53
Speaker 12: entice American forces into northern Australia. That's the old old
26:57
Speaker 12: Australian syndrome. We're not going to defend ourselves. I hope
27:00
Speaker 12: the Americans will defend us. Defend us psychologically where the
27:03
Speaker 12: Afghan government, you know, before the fall of car Bull.
27:06
Speaker 12: And the second reason, so that's one reason the Americans
27:10
Speaker 12: give us a free pass. The second reason is that
27:13
Speaker 12: we do everything we can politically to support the alliance
27:17
Speaker 12: and to say how much we love the alliance and everything.
27:20
Speaker 12: And the Americans think that has a marginal benefit in
27:24
Speaker 12: signaling to Beijing and other players that it can still
27:29
Speaker 12: mobilize alliances and just very quickly. How is Trump going
27:32
Speaker 12: to respond to China? Actually we really don't know. Is
27:35
Speaker 12: very very tough minded, but his cabinet consists of people
27:39
Speaker 12: with very contradictory views on China. Marco Rubio is a
27:43
Speaker 12: real hawk. The Treasury secretary is a guy who wants
27:46
Speaker 12: to do conventional multilateral stuff with China. Trump threatened tariffs
27:52
Speaker 12: on China, but he's not imposing them yet. He wants
27:54
Speaker 12: to make a visit there. He's going to save TikTok.
27:58
Speaker 12: I think all that's a little bit strain In a way,
28:00
Speaker 12: I wish he'd had just let the ban on TikTok
28:04
Speaker 12: go forward. Trump is a deal maker, so as I say,
28:07
Speaker 12: he is a mixed grill. It's good and bad. He's
28:09
Speaker 12: not going to allow China to humiliate America, and he's
28:11
Speaker 12: not going to let China have a free pass, and
28:14
Speaker 12: he is going to compete on artificial intelligence and everything else.
28:18
Speaker 12: But you know, he could make a deal which is
28:20
Speaker 12: not a great deal. We just like the rest of
28:23
Speaker 12: the world, we're just going to have to see and
28:26
Speaker 12: we need to be in his ear all the time.
28:28
Speaker 12: We need to be his best friend as far as
28:31
Speaker 12: we can be giving him advice about American interests in
28:34
Speaker 12: the Indo Pacific and all the rest. He'll have a
28:37
Speaker 12: lot of other folks giving him the same advice, the Indians,
28:40
Speaker 12: the Japanese, and his first term. First term was pretty good,
28:44
Speaker 12: so you know, there's reason to be hopeful. But it's
28:47
Speaker 12: going to be a bit of a hold your breath.
28:49
Speaker 3: It'll be a wild ride. It'll be a wild ride.
28:51
Speaker 2: And as of Monday, it's no longer politics as usual,
28:54
Speaker 2: at least in the next four years.
28:56
Speaker 3: Thanks Greg, Thank you all.
28:57
Speaker 2: Right after break, my special report is regional communities hit
29:01
Speaker 2: breaking point. Politicians imposing their green agenda right across the country,
29:06
Speaker 2: plus serious allegations of bullying and intimidation from bureaucrats forcing.
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Speaker 3: Farmers off their land.
29:17
Speaker 2: Welcome back still become the Trump effect already taking hold
29:20
Speaker 2: here in Australia. Companies bracing for the dismantlement of DEI
29:25
Speaker 2: initiatives and what it means for them. But first, over
29:28
Speaker 2: the past week. Last weekend in particular, I had the
29:31
Speaker 2: pleasure of returning to my old hometown of Witchship Roof
29:34
Speaker 2: in northwest Victoria, which has sadly become a flashpoint in
29:38
Speaker 2: the battle between politicians and bureaucrats pushing their green agenda
29:43
Speaker 2: and farmers whose livelihoods are now in the balance. One
29:47
Speaker 2: thing that's clear is that if anyone in government thinks
29:51
Speaker 2: they can ride roughshod over these communities or they are
29:55
Speaker 2: kidding themselves. On the farming plains at the edge of
30:05
Speaker 2: the Victorian Malley, a battle for survival is underway.
30:12
Speaker 3: Three hours northwest of Melbourne.
30:15
Speaker 2: It's a region that's no stranger to tough times drought
30:18
Speaker 2: and flood, but can it survive. What's coming from Canberra.
30:26
Speaker 2: This is Mount witchiproof. I've look in my old hometown,
30:29
Speaker 2: the smallest registered mountain in the world, and all around
30:33
Speaker 2: is land where families have farmed for generations. Now I
30:36
Speaker 2: was born and bred here, a fifth generation local, and
30:40
Speaker 2: I've brought you back here with me because this community
30:43
Speaker 2: is in the fight of their lives and they need
30:45
Speaker 2: our help. For hundreds of kilometers in each direction, this
30:50
Speaker 2: land that grows the food we eat and builds our
30:52
Speaker 2: wealth as a nation with exports is under threat. Decisions
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Speaker 2: made a long way away by people with no skin
31:00
Speaker 2: in the game, People that won't have to live with
31:02
Speaker 2: the reality of any of this, are about to hit
31:05
Speaker 2: this community hard. Now, what's happening here is a fight
31:10
Speaker 2: that will shape the future of our country.
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Speaker 3: Well, good a, this is beautiful, Jeffcott.
31:18
Speaker 2: Farmers like James and Emma Burke and their entire farming
31:22
Speaker 2: family are on the front line.
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Speaker 1: We selected in eighteen seventy three, so one hundred and
31:28
Speaker 1: fifty two years of the Burke history.
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize the scale of what they're proposing.
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Speaker 15: It's huge.
31:32
Speaker 2: It's all the way across your farm, your brother's farm.
31:36
Speaker 1: We're definitely the largest that we know of. We've actually
31:40
Speaker 1: mapped the line from start to finish and from what
31:43
Speaker 1: I can understand, we've got the largest amount of the
31:46
Speaker 1: transmission line.
31:47
Speaker 2: Giant new transmission lines carrying so called green energy will
31:52
Speaker 2: cut a seventeen meter swathe through their land with devastating effect.
31:58
Speaker 1: The height of these towels and being five hundred kV,
32:01
Speaker 1: we don't even know what machinery we can successfully put
32:04
Speaker 1: underneath these. These are huge towers. And even know that
32:08
Speaker 1: the GPS and everything that we're using in modern day farming,
32:11
Speaker 1: they're not understanding what it's going to do. And as
32:13
Speaker 1: we can see, you know, if it's going to cost
32:15
Speaker 1: me more to grow and more to produce, it's going
32:18
Speaker 1: to go up in price. So it's going to cost
32:19
Speaker 1: all of us in Australia. It's minimal. That compensation to
32:23
Speaker 1: what they're offering is not even close to what you
32:25
Speaker 1: know we're going to lose as farmers. It just it
32:27
Speaker 1: doesn't help us one bit at all. We've got to
32:29
Speaker 1: start making decisions the right way and making this business
32:33
Speaker 1: work as a business that's profitable for Australian It's not
32:36
Speaker 1: profitable for so.
32:37
Speaker 2: Few At the center of this anger is a massive
32:40
Speaker 2: new electricity transmission line that will run between Sydney and Melbourne,
32:45
Speaker 2: known simply as the V and I West. The hundreds
32:49
Speaker 2: of kilometers it will cut through private land, and all
32:52
Speaker 2: the way along its high voltage cables will be held
32:56
Speaker 2: up by eighteen meter high transmission towers as high as
33:01
Speaker 2: a light towers at the MCG equivalent to about five
33:05
Speaker 2: and a half of these massive silos stacked on top
33:09
Speaker 2: of each other.
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Speaker 3: When the farmers say no, well, they're.
33:13
Speaker 2: Being told their land will be acquired by force anyway,
33:17
Speaker 2: life changing decisions made by politicians and bureaucrats with little
33:22
Speaker 2: or a genuine consultation and no idea about what's at
33:26
Speaker 2: stake for these farmers.
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Speaker 11: They're calling it consultation, but it's not. We're being told
33:34
Speaker 11: this is happening. They're just drawing a map from their
33:38
Speaker 11: office in Melbourne from Google Earth. So we were told
33:42
Speaker 11: they were originally going to go through our lateral irrigator
33:45
Speaker 11: and that runs for two point two k's and their
33:50
Speaker 11: easement that they are looking at was two kilometers wide,
33:53
Speaker 11: just made it obsolete. They had no idea that any
33:57
Speaker 11: of this irrigation infrastructure existed when they drew their imaginary line.
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Speaker 11: I've been practically called a liar when I've mentioned that
34:06
Speaker 11: it's costing our business millions of dollars. Land values depreciated,
34:11
Speaker 11: Our most valuable lands not even attractive anymore. We're probably
34:14
Speaker 11: going to be struggling to even sell it if we
34:16
Speaker 11: wanted to sell it.
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Speaker 2: And there goes the opportunity for your daughter Ella Yep,
34:21
Speaker 2: to follow in mum and Dad's footsteps on the land.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely gone gone. Five generations of hard work just gone
34:30
Speaker 11: out the window.
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Speaker 2: Glenlow East farmer Claire Grant is another fighter who refuses
34:37
Speaker 2: to be bullied in designing away lands she farms with
34:40
Speaker 2: partner Tim McGrath. If it goes ahead, the new transmission
34:45
Speaker 2: line will devastate their irrigation country, which is essential to
34:49
Speaker 2: drought proofing their farm business.
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Speaker 11: They keep spooking that you can do it, just normal
34:57
Speaker 11: activities can continue on.
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Speaker 16: But they've got no idea.
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Speaker 11: We're not going to be We're going to be limited
35:02
Speaker 11: as to what we can grow under there. They've got
35:06
Speaker 11: height restrictions on what you can grow. Corns automatically are
35:10
Speaker 11: no go because it's higher than they're three meters.
35:12
Speaker 16: That you're only allowed to grow underneath.
35:14
Speaker 3: So there goes one of your crops.
35:15
Speaker 11: There goes one of our crops, which we also can't
35:17
Speaker 11: grow because we can't have aerial access because the power lines,
35:22
Speaker 11: aeroplanes aren't allowed in neural. This machinery is huge and
35:28
Speaker 11: twenty meters tower and you've got then bay restrictions. It's
35:33
Speaker 11: just not going to happen.
35:34
Speaker 3: If you look around at all this machinery.
35:37
Speaker 15: It's massive, it is.
35:38
Speaker 17: The outlier is enormous, and we have to have it.
35:42
Speaker 17: Like air, crops have to go in at a certain time,
35:45
Speaker 17: they have to be strayed at a certain time. You
35:48
Speaker 17: never know what's going to pop up, diseases, pest.
35:51
Speaker 3: So what's your alternative If you haven't got aerial.
35:53
Speaker 16: Access, can't grow it, lose money.
35:56
Speaker 1: Simple as that we actually live in a creek here,
35:58
Speaker 1: and that creek when it floods, we have to use
36:01
Speaker 1: aerial or or the future which is drone spraying, and
36:05
Speaker 1: we won't be able to use that. You actually can't
36:07
Speaker 1: use it there. So the actual costs of that is huge.
36:11
Speaker 1: Over our whole farm. Half it is actually through the creek.
36:15
Speaker 1: The cost would be astronomical. Like I just couldn't put
36:18
Speaker 1: a value on what it'd be in one season, that
36:20
Speaker 1: what we'd lose.
36:21
Speaker 2: The more I talk to people, the more the mental
36:24
Speaker 2: health told was apparent.
36:27
Speaker 16: Plenty of tears of bee shit.
36:29
Speaker 3: This is horrific, it.
36:31
Speaker 11: Is, And that's what the politicians, particularly I know you
36:36
Speaker 11: just into Allen's big push at the Bush summer is oh,
36:39
Speaker 11: we're helping farmers in the droughts and things like that.
36:42
Speaker 16: You're not helping us.
36:43
Speaker 11: We know how to run our own businesses and survive
36:45
Speaker 11: droughts and what to do. What they're doing is making
36:48
Speaker 11: it even harder and making farmland unfarmable.
36:51
Speaker 18: See, people aren't happy on the land, they will leave.
36:53
Speaker 18: And I'm really concerned about how that's going to affect
36:56
Speaker 18: our schools, how sporting clubs, how local hospitals to attract
37:00
Speaker 18: and to retain workers.
37:02
Speaker 3: It's really a real big concern for our community.
37:05
Speaker 18: I just often have quite a sense of uneasiness. They're
37:09
Speaker 18: trying to rush these transmission lines through here, and it's
37:12
Speaker 18: just not fair.
37:13
Speaker 3: It's just not fair on us.
37:14
Speaker 1: Is splitting up the farmers, you know, by throwing these
37:17
Speaker 1: there's lots of money to put up these wind factories.
37:22
Speaker 2: What also disturbed me was serious allegations of intimidation and
37:28
Speaker 2: underhand tactics from officials.
37:31
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of dirty business going on
37:32
Speaker 1: in this.
37:33
Speaker 11: We're not giving into their bullying tactics. They call the
37:37
Speaker 11: police on farmers for no reason other than watching their
37:42
Speaker 11: own land.
37:42
Speaker 1: They're making out that you know, where the enemy. We're
37:44
Speaker 1: not the enemy. We're just trying to find out what's
37:46
Speaker 1: going on.
37:46
Speaker 11: They've gone from a nice little marquee and a nice
37:51
Speaker 11: table and a setup to two men standing on the
37:55
Speaker 11: side of the street with no identification and security.
38:03
Speaker 2: The Greens and the Teals love to talk about saving
38:06
Speaker 2: the world from climate change, but they don't have to
38:08
Speaker 2: live with the reality of this green energy of madness.
38:11
Speaker 2: It's not their land being ripped apart, all their communities
38:15
Speaker 2: that will suffer. The Prime Minister or he's just desperate
38:19
Speaker 2: to hang onto power, so he is spending billions and
38:22
Speaker 2: billions of borrowed money to roll out these transmission towers
38:26
Speaker 2: to buy their support. Labor doesn't care about country towns
38:30
Speaker 2: like this. It's about the politics of the inner city
38:34
Speaker 2: and preference deals, not the farming communities that are the
38:38
Speaker 2: backbone of our prosperity. I sat down with just some
38:48
Speaker 2: of the witch you proove locals who could not disguise
38:51
Speaker 2: their feelings of abandonment and anger.
38:55
Speaker 16: I do not want people coming onto my property, ripping
38:58
Speaker 16: up my ground.
39:01
Speaker 4: Father and his brother didn't work their guts out for nothing.
39:06
Speaker 3: This is now my legacy, this is this is all
39:08
Speaker 3: their legacy.
39:09
Speaker 1: We were shocked, we were lauseous, absolutely devastated.
39:14
Speaker 15: We felt totally ambushed, being treated like a peasant.
39:19
Speaker 16: We've got no rights.
39:21
Speaker 19: The figures have come out this week for a kilomora
39:26
Speaker 19: TRANSMISSI lines to your properly get paid eight thousand kilomna.
39:30
Speaker 19: We all figures are suggesting the Victoria and we're one
39:33
Speaker 19: hundred and fifty thousand per kilomna. So who's getting fairly compensated,
39:38
Speaker 19: certainly not the farmer rural Victoria.
39:40
Speaker 9: I'm sure now the state government realizes it's just a
39:44
Speaker 9: massive opportunity to collect tact during harvests.
39:48
Speaker 20: I saw something doing some surveys in the middle of
39:51
Speaker 20: the night.
39:53
Speaker 17: We went to approach him a few neighbors and he
39:55
Speaker 17: end up calling the police on us.
39:57
Speaker 2: They were actually the people that did have com mission
40:00
Speaker 2: to be there.
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Speaker 9: The carpet pythons on our farm are officially listed as
40:04
Speaker 9: endangered by the Victorian state government. They know that. The
40:08
Speaker 9: transmission people, We've told them, we've given them evidence, but
40:12
Speaker 9: we've still received a final preferred alignment through the farm
40:16
Speaker 9: only a couple of hundred meters from their main breeding habitat.
40:20
Speaker 13: And just worris, you're what's the future holds for the
40:24
Speaker 13: future jed generations.
40:25
Speaker 9: That's what worries both.
40:26
Speaker 2: What's happening in Witchi isn't an isolated example. This is
40:31
Speaker 2: where the reality of decisions made at international climate conferences
40:35
Speaker 2: by people like Chris Bowen end up, where billions will
40:40
Speaker 2: be wasted trying to bribe and bully farmers into rolling
40:43
Speaker 2: over and giving up their land. If you think your
40:46
Speaker 2: power is expensive, now just wait till all of this
40:49
Speaker 2: gets rolled out. If you think if food's expensive, now
40:52
Speaker 2: just wait until our farmers go out of business. You
40:55
Speaker 2: talk to the locals, read the reports, have a look
40:59
Speaker 2: at even the engineering basics, and what's clear is that
41:03
Speaker 2: no one in.
41:03
Speaker 3: Power is thinking this through. Honestly, this is madness.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't stack up, and everyone here knows it. It's
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Speaker 2: an election year this year. Anthony Albaneese is in the
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Speaker 2: fight of his life to survive. Just into Alan. They're
41:20
Speaker 2: coming for you too.
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Speaker 8: Out here.
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Speaker 2: These farmers are angry, they're organized and they're up for
41:27
Speaker 2: the fight.
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Speaker 3: I reckon, I know who's tougher. Do you think you
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Speaker 3: can win the fight?
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Speaker 14: Well?
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Speaker 5: Truly?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 19: Possibly twelve months ago to these God say no. But
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Speaker 19: now I want to one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: I'll went up for the fight. There's no doubt about that.
41:41
Speaker 1: You know, we've been in it for eighteen months now.
41:43
Speaker 1: We're getting better and better with it. We're starting to,
41:45
Speaker 1: you know, get a bit of media out there and
41:47
Speaker 1: people are starting to see and the questions keep coming.
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Speaker 6: We'll stick together.
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Speaker 3: I have to say. They cannot win it without you.
41:59
Speaker 2: Next week we'll have another report because this is going
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Speaker 2: on all over Australia and the furfew of renewables only
42:06
Speaker 2: power must be exposed. And just a special thanks to
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Speaker 2: all the wonderful people who work with us in which
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Speaker 2: you proof it speaks volumes that you are normally private,
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Speaker 2: I know, but that you got on camera and opened
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Speaker 2: up like you did. Also a special thanks for me too,
42:19
Speaker 2: to the Institute of Public Affairs who've been working with
42:22
Speaker 2: us on exposing what's been going on four years all
42:26
Speaker 2: right after the break another major gas project on whole
42:28
Speaker 2: at the time when we desperately need more gas. Plaus
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Speaker 2: Howe's labor already scrambling to find a climate work around
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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump abandoned the Paris Agreement. It's a Wednesday
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Speaker 2: cal which is coming up. The first Let's bring in
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Speaker 2: my panel shadow Environment Minister, a Senator Jonathan Duniam, A
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Speaker 2: National Party Senator from Queensland, Matcanavan.
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Speaker 3: Well, then I'll start with you. I just took viewers to.
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Speaker 2: My old country town of which you proof the backlash
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Speaker 2: against this renewables, the jet, the rubbers really hitting the road.
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Speaker 2: They are angry and I want to say to people, Matt,
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Speaker 2: you know this doesn't just affect those who live in
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Speaker 2: the regions like you do. This is a massive issue
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Speaker 2: for every Australian.
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Speaker 20: It is, Peter, and thank to you, Thanks to you
43:16
Speaker 20: to highlighting those concerns of rural and regional Australians. It
43:21
Speaker 20: does affect all the strains. Because Austraians like their farmers,
43:23
Speaker 20: they like the Australian bush. They want to protect the
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Speaker 20: Australian bush. And currently a lot of these renewal energy
43:28
Speaker 20: developers are destroying the Great Australian Bush for no great
43:31
Speaker 20: benefit to the rest of us except higher power prices.
43:33
Speaker 20: And there is hope, There is hope. The way to
43:35
Speaker 20: defeat this is to do what you're doing. And the
43:37
Speaker 20: new LMP government here in Queensland has just called in
43:40
Speaker 20: multiple numbers of these wind farm projects, including one near
43:42
Speaker 20: where I stand today, the mount Light Lighthouse project, and
43:46
Speaker 20: that is because of the campaigning. It's been done on
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Speaker 20: the ground by people here in central Queensland.
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Speaker 7: It's the way to make change.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong.
43:55
Speaker 2: And of course down in Tasmania Bob Brown was against
43:58
Speaker 2: a win farm. You've got issues green and gender issues
44:02
Speaker 2: down there. The Prime Minister's trying to sit on the
44:04
Speaker 2: fence in the seat of lions over the salmon industry.
44:07
Speaker 3: How much do you.
44:08
Speaker 2: Think the green issues will be a vote changer at
44:11
Speaker 2: this selection, John O?
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Speaker 15: Well, Peter, it will be an absolutely central consideration of
44:19
Speaker 15: most people, because the green agenda is frankly, what has
44:22
Speaker 15: made cost of living the problem that it is for
44:24
Speaker 15: most households and businesses. The cost of energy has gone
44:27
Speaker 15: up because of our blind ideological pursuit of green energy
44:31
Speaker 15: and not to mention the damage it does to our environment.
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Speaker 3: As Matt Rightley.
44:34
Speaker 15: Points out, so this green inner city vote chasing that's
44:38
Speaker 15: going on by labor, the former party of the worker,
44:42
Speaker 15: is going to cost them votes. But I can assure
44:45
Speaker 15: your viewers there is one set of parties, the Liberal
44:48
Speaker 15: National parties, that are actually listening and going to make
44:50
Speaker 15: sure that that agenda no longer controls what happens in
44:53
Speaker 15: this country.
44:56
Speaker 2: Company directors in Australia are bracing for the growing backlash
44:58
Speaker 2: against diversity equids in inclusion programs following President Trump dismantling
45:04
Speaker 2: DEI in the United States. He's already assigned an executive
45:08
Speaker 2: order that also cracking down on gender ideology. He says,
45:12
Speaker 2: agencies will cease pretending that men can be women and
45:14
Speaker 2: women can be men when enforcing laws to protect against
45:17
Speaker 2: sex discrimination. Is the coalition mcnavan prepared to have this
45:22
Speaker 2: fight here in Australia.
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Speaker 20: Well, I can't speak for everybody, Peter, but I'm certainly
45:27
Speaker 20: prepared to have that fight. I think, particularly where the
45:30
Speaker 20: rubber hits the ground, and that's when it comes to
45:33
Speaker 20: the issue of biological men competing as women in sports.
45:37
Speaker 20: It's unfair and in many circumstances. It is unsafe and
45:40
Speaker 20: it's just common sense to allow women to compete against women.
45:44
Speaker 20: The only place where that doesn't seem to make sense
45:48
Speaker 20: is where common sense goes to die, in Canberra. So
45:51
Speaker 20: I certainly when I get back to camera a couple
45:52
Speaker 20: of months, we're pushing the same agenda that Donald Trump's
45:55
Speaker 20: pursued here. We should have common sense, we should protect
45:57
Speaker 20: our young girls.
46:00
Speaker 2: He's also banned public servants from working from home. That's
46:03
Speaker 2: gone the way of a stroke of the pen yesterday.
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Speaker 2: John O again the Coalition, are you going to follow
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Speaker 2: suit here?
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Speaker 15: There's definitely something we should be doing because I'll tell
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Speaker 15: you what you know, whether it's in Witchiproof or Bernie
46:18
Speaker 15: Tasmania or wherever. If you step into reality, they are
46:22
Speaker 15: no way looking at things like work from home arrangements
46:25
Speaker 15: for their employees. So everyone in the real world knows
46:27
Speaker 15: you've got to turn up to work to do your
46:29
Speaker 15: job to make a difference, except in Canberra and perhaps
46:32
Speaker 15: in the public service offices of Sydney, Melbourne and other
46:35
Speaker 15: capital So.
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Speaker 3: It is something that needs to change.
46:38
Speaker 15: It is a winner with Australians who pay taxes for
46:41
Speaker 15: these people to work at home, and it's something I
46:43
Speaker 15: think we should be pursuing.
46:44
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey Matt Santos scrapping a project or certainly're putting
46:51
Speaker 2: it a whole on hold, I'll be correct, putting it
46:52
Speaker 2: on hold. Three point two billion dollar development gas development
46:56
Speaker 2: over in Wa, and we've got news now that the
47:00
Speaker 2: Albanezi government is going to try and work with a
47:02
Speaker 2: whole lot of Democrat states to get around Trump's Paris bands.
47:08
Speaker 20: What do you make of this, Well, these jobs that
47:12
Speaker 20: are going to be lost to our country are the
47:14
Speaker 20: direct cause of this government's mismanagement of our resources regulations.
47:19
Speaker 20: They're ridiculous crackdown on gas. We saw communists to style
47:23
Speaker 20: policies coming to set the price and direct companies what
47:25
Speaker 20: to do. Of course, you're not going to get investment
47:27
Speaker 20: under those circumstances. Santos themselves as long as well as
47:30
Speaker 20: other gas companies have been warning about this, wanting about
47:32
Speaker 20: this for years, that they will take their investments to
47:35
Speaker 20: those parts of the world which want to have them,
47:36
Speaker 20: which want to work with them. And clearly the Trump
47:38
Speaker 20: administration wants to work with the oil and gas industries,
47:41
Speaker 20: and that's why we're seeing austrange jobs Australian investment go
47:44
Speaker 20: to the US. This is a major challenge and in
47:46
Speaker 20: terms of the government working with the States, I mean,
47:49
Speaker 20: this is just the wrong approach. The response to what
47:51
Speaker 20: Donald Trump is doing should be to cut our own
47:54
Speaker 20: red tape, to cut our own wasteful government spending, to
47:56
Speaker 20: get our own house in order, because if we don't
47:59
Speaker 20: do that, we are going to lose many more jobs,
48:02
Speaker 20: many more industries, not just in the resources sector, to
48:04
Speaker 20: a revitalized and vibrant United States, and that will make
48:08
Speaker 20: us all poorer.
48:11
Speaker 2: Just before we go, John, I understand you've got a
48:13
Speaker 2: Maga hat of your own.
48:15
Speaker 3: Tell us more.
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Speaker 15: Well, I'll tell you what. Maga is a craze that
48:21
Speaker 15: he is taking the world by storm. And it's because
48:24
Speaker 15: Anthony Albernize is not too dissimilar to Kamala Harris when
48:28
Speaker 15: it comes to word salads colplately out of touch and
48:33
Speaker 15: dug and Ramona Westbrook from the Mule Creek Hotel willing
48:36
Speaker 15: to sell and send these to anyone who wants to
48:39
Speaker 15: buy them. It says, for those that can't see.
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Speaker 3: It, make elbow go away.
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Speaker 14: Maga.
48:43
Speaker 15: So I'm Naga all the way. And if anyone wants
48:46
Speaker 15: on quantic. Go sure, put them.
48:48
Speaker 2: In touch.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
48:50
Speaker 2: Go to the sky News website, go to my a
48:53
Speaker 2: little bit on that and we'll put all the information
48:55
Speaker 2: up there as well. I'll put it on my Instagram too,
48:57
Speaker 2: Go to my Instagram. Peter Cridlin, Ao, Jens, thank you
49:00
Speaker 2: you in the cricket there and Baddie all right after
49:02
Speaker 2: rak kel Richards won't belong, welcome back joining me now,
49:08
Speaker 2: Kel Richards, our word Smith extraordinary and I am tickled
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Speaker 2: pink to have you with me every Wednesday. And of
49:15
Speaker 2: course Ray, one of our viewers, wants to know where
49:18
Speaker 2: does this come from?
49:20
Speaker 21: Well, tickled has been in the English language since about
49:22
Speaker 21: thirteen hundred, so a very long time, and almost from
49:24
Speaker 21: the beginning, tickled was used to being pleased. If someone
49:27
Speaker 21: was tickled about something, they were pleased about it. It
49:30
Speaker 21: was as well as the bodily function that that was
49:33
Speaker 21: the symbolic reference of tickled all the way through. And
49:36
Speaker 21: then finally in nineteen twenty two, tickled pink arose and
49:40
Speaker 21: the idea was from tickling a baby sillho so that
49:43
Speaker 21: it giggled so much it turned pink. That's where tickled
49:47
Speaker 21: pink came from.
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Speaker 3: This is a good one.
49:52
Speaker 2: Maggie wants to know what is the difference between blasphemy
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Speaker 2: and heresy.
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Speaker 21: It is interesting, isn't it. Both words came into English
50:00
Speaker 21: via French around about the twelve hundred, so long time ago,
50:03
Speaker 21: and in both cases they have ancient Greek words behind them.
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Speaker 21: Blasphemy comes from an ancient Greek word meaning being irreverent
50:09
Speaker 21: or speaking irreverently or carelessly about God. So when someone
50:13
Speaker 21: uses God's name to punctuate their sentences like commas, that's blasphemy. Heresy,
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Speaker 21: on the other hand, actually means deviating from the truth
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Speaker 21: of tradition and orthodoxy and normality and that kind of thing,
50:26
Speaker 21: And it comes from an ancient Greek word that meant
50:28
Speaker 21: to choose a different path. So you can be blasphemous
50:34
Speaker 21: without being heretical, and heratical without being blasphemous.
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Speaker 2: I suppose, having got time to answer Clive's question, he says,
50:43
Speaker 2: how do I make a go with a difference between
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Speaker 2: I and me in terms of pronoun us.
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Speaker 21: Okay, it's first person pronoun and I is used when
50:54
Speaker 21: it's in the subjective case, and me as used when
50:56
Speaker 21: it's in the objective case. But English hasn't been taught.
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Speaker 21: Grammar hasn't been taught to schools for forty years, so
51:02
Speaker 21: I've got no idea whether anyone would understand that. So
51:05
Speaker 21: let me just say use. If it's being done to you,
51:08
Speaker 21: if you are doing it, say I. If it's being
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Speaker 21: done to you, say me that subjective case and objective case.
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Speaker 21: And they should have taught you in school, but they didn't,
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Speaker 21: did they.
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Speaker 2: Well they did for me in a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: But we might revise that again next week. Thank you, Kim,
51:23
Speaker 2: see you next week. That's different me tomorrow night. Back
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Speaker 2: here at six up next though.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Bolt