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s1.4 Post-Fame Plus · Almost Famous Enough

• 0:41
  Glen Erickson: Seemed so upset that I had it wrong,
• 0:44
  alexi: I was like, well, crap, because what if you have it wrong?
• 0:48
  alexi: And now we're
• 0:49
  Glen Erickson: and,
• 0:49
  alexi: album.
• 0:50
  Glen Erickson: and then we would be sitting here unprepared, which, which we're already, wearing a little bit of unpreparedness openly because it's, uh, it's Thursday as we record this, which normally we would've posted it.
• 1:04
  Glen Erickson: We've posted Thursday morning since we started.
• 1:06
  Glen Erickson: That's our schedule.
• 1:07
  Glen Erickson: And you and I both completely blitzed on what day it was.
• 1:12
  alexi: Like, I wish we could go
• 1:13
  Glen Erickson: uh,
• 1:14
  alexi: our conversation last night.
• 1:15
  alexi: 'cause we probably just seen like insane people.
• 1:18
  Glen Erickson: yeah.
• 1:18
  Glen Erickson: 'cause we were just talking like it was the day before.
• 1:21
  Glen Erickson: Clearly, like a hundred percent.
• 1:23
  Glen Erickson: Well, we've probably disappointed 20 people, so I apologize to those 20 people who might have expected something this morning.
• 1:30
  Glen Erickson: I'm being a little facetious, of course, but that's the way it goes.
• 1:34
  Glen Erickson: Okay, well this is, uh, this is number four, Lexie.
• 1:37
  Glen Erickson: And of Post Fame Plus our summer series, uh, between myself, your host, Glen Erickson, and, uh, Lexi Alexi Erickson, also your host.
• 1:49
  Glen Erickson: yeah, so let's, let's kick right into it, except I don't remember who usually took a turn to go first, so.
• 1:55
  Glen Erickson: In our, in our exchange of one person bring a song, one person bring an album.
• 2:00
  Glen Erickson: Uh, we're on our fourth installment and what we were just laughing about is, uh, it sounded like I was confused once again.
• 2:08
  Glen Erickson: I really wasn't.
• 2:09
  Glen Erickson: 'cause I've just been sitting here pulling together stuff.
• 2:11
  Glen Erickson: So I'm doing the song.
• 2:13
  Glen Erickson: You're doing the whole album,
• 2:15
  alexi: Yes.
• 2:16
  Glen Erickson: is great.
• 2:17
  Glen Erickson: Okay, so why don't we.
• 2:20
  Glen Erickson: I just like it when you go first.
• 2:21
  Glen Erickson: So I don't know if we're breaking whatever is, did we do it the other way around before?
• 2:25
  Glen Erickson: Do you remember?
• 2:26
  alexi: Yeah.
• 2:26
  alexi: It's
• 2:26
  Glen Erickson: It was always Okay, then we'll stick to it.
• 2:29
  alexi: Thank
• 2:29
  Glen Erickson: thought you didn't remember either.
• 2:31
  Glen Erickson: And so that I could just go Dealer's choice, but apparently no dealer's choice for me.
• 2:37
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 2:37
  Glen Erickson: Well song first.
• 2:39
  Glen Erickson: And I gave you, I told you last week that there was an Easter egg in there because you said something about the album that you had and that it was sort of spurred on by something I.
• 2:50
  alexi: Yes.
• 2:51
  Glen Erickson: was spurred on by something and I can't remember actually at the exact moment how all of that went down.
• 2:55
  Glen Erickson: But then I said, well, my song is actually, there's an Easter egg in a part of what our conversation was.
• 3:00
  Glen Erickson: So the part of our conversation was about people who have appeared and played at our folk fest, which I've, uh, been very grateful and had incredible privilege through some of the work that I do with the Edmonton Folk Fest, who have had like all access passes for.
• 3:18
  Glen Erickson: Over a decade now for me and the family and, and so there's no excuse, I guess is what I'm saying, that I should have missed anybody or had every opportunity to see people and been well informed, and yet I continually have a regret almost it feels like every year.
• 3:35
  Glen Erickson: So this is one of my regrets, Lexi.
• 3:39
  Glen Erickson: Oh yeah, you can guess
• 3:41
  alexi: I
• 3:41
  Glen Erickson: I know what you're probably gonna guess.
• 3:43
  Glen Erickson: So.
• 3:44
  alexi: Is
• 3:44
  Glen Erickson: I'll just let you know.
• 3:46
  Glen Erickson: I have a guess about your guess
• 3:47
  alexi: No, no, no.
• 3:48
  alexi: Is it?
• 3:48
  alexi: No.
• 3:49
  alexi: Is it?
• 3:51
  alexi: I don't wanna say here last name though.
• 3:53
  alexi: Angie McMahon.
• 3:55
  Glen Erickson: McMahon.
• 3:56
  alexi: McMahon?
• 3:57
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 3:58
  alexi: it?
• 3:58
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 3:58
  Glen Erickson: You have to understand how that word is.
• 4:01
  Glen Erickson: That name is, is spoken.
• 4:02
  Glen Erickson: It's pretty important.
• 4:04
  alexi: Is it her?
• 4:06
  Glen Erickson: No, it's not.
• 4:07
  Glen Erickson: But I knew, that was my guess of who you would guess,
• 4:09
  alexi: What is someone
• 4:10
  Glen Erickson: because
• 4:11
  alexi: and was
• 4:11
  Glen Erickson: no big, you know, you're not wrong.
• 4:13
  Glen Erickson: Like in the top two songs that I absolutely adore by artists that I've missed at our folk fest, and I'm like horribly embarrassed.
• 4:23
  Glen Erickson: That's one of them.
• 4:23
  Glen Erickson: That was maybe actually number one, but that's not my choice for today.
• 4:28
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 4:29
  Glen Erickson: Uh, so my choice for today is a different artist whose name is Kevin Morby.
• 4:34
  Glen Erickson: And Kevin Morby, I had completely missed.
• 4:37
  Glen Erickson: And then in a playlist that I share with my two best friends, Greg and Joel.
• 4:41
  Glen Erickson: Greg posted.
• 4:43
  Glen Erickson: And, and nobody's done this at all yet.
• 4:45
  Glen Erickson: It's, it's sharing songs.
• 4:48
  Glen Erickson: And he posted the entire record by this guy, Kevin Morby.
• 4:51
  Glen Erickson: So, uh, the record is called, this is a Photograph, the song is called, this is a Photograph.
• 4:56
  Glen Erickson: So that's, I wanna share that song.
• 4:59
  Glen Erickson: And the reason that it came back to me recently is.
• 5:02
  Glen Erickson: I've been listening to more and more deep cuts from the Song Exploder podcast, which goes all the way back to like, I think 2015.
• 5:10
  Glen Erickson: Like it's been one of the oldest, most consistent ones, so there's a lot of material to mind and I was just kind of thumbing through it.
• 5:17
  Glen Erickson: And am I keeping you up, Lexie?
• 5:20
  alexi: No, I've been
• 5:21
  Glen Erickson: Right there.
• 5:21
  alexi: in a
• 5:22
  Glen Erickson: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
• 5:24
  Glen Erickson: Alright, that's fine.
• 5:25
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 5:25
  Glen Erickson: So I was thumbing through Song Exploder and then I saw this song was in there and I thought, oh, that's awesome.
• 5:30
  Glen Erickson: Like, I didn't think that that would necessarily make the cut on, uh, on a song Exploder episode.
• 5:36
  Glen Erickson: And I listened to it and it turned out just to actually be one of my favorite song Exploder episodes.
• 5:41
  Glen Erickson: So the song, this is a photograph from that album.
• 5:45
  Glen Erickson: And, and the podcast, if anybody wants to go back and let's do, it's from, I think 2022.
• 5:49
  Glen Erickson: So it's a while back, like just after the song was released.
• 5:53
  Glen Erickson: Kevin Morby.
• 5:54
  Glen Erickson: so he is, I love his voice, so his voice to me is like a.
• 6:01
  Glen Erickson: Like the modern day almost.
• 6:03
  Glen Erickson: It's, it's got like the a Lou Reed quality.
• 6:06
  Glen Erickson: Like at first I thought because he's, you know, a lot of his stuff can be pretty more in the folk.
• 6:12
  Glen Erickson: Indie folk world.
• 6:13
  Glen Erickson: I start thinking Bob Dylan, just the way he just kinda gives away vowels and just lets words kind of fall off at the end all the time.
• 6:22
  Glen Erickson: And in some instances, almost TOXs it feels like, which is very, I think universally, Dylan asked to people, but the smoothness of the tone and the way he still moves between words like vocally, tonally.
• 6:38
  alexi: Yeah.
• 6:38
  Glen Erickson: Is So Lou Reed to me, which is another very old velvet underground throwback, but just somebody who's really famous for that and it's so smooth.
• 6:49
  Glen Erickson: And the song when he, when I, so the reason I wanted to share it as like a song that I would share to anybody is because number one, it sits in this cannon of.
• 7:00
  Glen Erickson: Incredible songs.
• 7:00
  Glen Erickson: I can't believe I didn't get to see live.
• 7:02
  Glen Erickson: Like it just went right under my radar and PLAs me.
• 7:05
  Glen Erickson: And then now I listen to it a lot.
• 7:07
  Glen Erickson: I just can't, I go back to it a lot.
• 7:10
  Glen Erickson: It is based on two things that I love.
• 7:12
  Glen Erickson: It is just got this undeniable little guitar look and, and it's, and it's, it basically almost runs the whole way through and.
• 7:21
  Glen Erickson: And, and it is really cool.
• 7:23
  Glen Erickson: And when I hear him talk about it and describe how he built the song and how he was actually listening to some other very well-known song where the phrase of the guitar L kind of goes up at the end, and he was just messing around with something that sounded similar, and then he just let it go down.
• 7:40
  Glen Erickson: And then as soon as that happened, he was like, oh, I've got something.
• 7:43
  Glen Erickson: Here.
• 7:44
  Glen Erickson: And then he just kept repeating it and then he just started building words over top.
• 7:48
  Glen Erickson: and then it, it's this story about his dad and being with his family and finding these old photographs and the story, the more he keeps telling it is just so literal.
• 7:58
  Glen Erickson: And I don't know if you encounter where you listen to a song and you think the lyrics.
• 8:03
  Glen Erickson: Are these like actual things that happened?
• 8:05
  Glen Erickson: Do you know what I mean?
• 8:06
  Glen Erickson: Because the, the pieces all are just, those are just too exact to not, you know, to get pieced together that way.
• 8:15
  Glen Erickson: And so he is like, essentially he was literally inspired by a photograph they found of his dad.
• 8:21
  Glen Erickson: And, and then he starts talking about sort of the picture his dad had of in his mind of when he was young, from when he was young.
• 8:28
  Glen Erickson: And, And his dad sort of dealing with sickness and sort of, uh, he sort of, well, he essentially does, he, he kind of quotes a famous era of boxing in the world, in the mainstream world between these two boxers, sugar Ray and, and Roberto Duran and, and this famous fight.
• 8:47
  Glen Erickson: Which was a rematch when this, I think Mexican boxer, Roberto Duram basically said, no MAs, and just walked off.
• 8:53
  Glen Erickson: He's just like, no more.
• 8:54
  Glen Erickson: He knew he was losing or something and he basically quotes all this as,'cause it was his dad's favorite thing to watch.
• 9:01
  Glen Erickson: And, and he talked about that thing all the time.
• 9:03
  Glen Erickson: And then it was a metaphor also for his dad, kind of like being really kind of cocky at the world in some difficult times and stuff.
• 9:11
  Glen Erickson: Anyhow, the whole piecing together of it.
• 9:13
  Glen Erickson: Made so much sense, and the song is just so, sometimes the song to me is so perfectly written, it feels like somebody grabbed it down out of the universe.
• 9:23
  Glen Erickson: Do you know what I mean?
• 9:24
  Glen Erickson: Like it was already made and somebody was just lucky enough to have stumbled upon it that day.
• 9:28
  alexi: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Glen Erickson: It's one of those kinds of songs.
• 9:30
  Glen Erickson: So.
• 9:32
  Glen Erickson: To me, I absolutely love it.
• 9:33
  Glen Erickson: I'm so sad I ever miss seeing it played live closer to the heyday of when that came out.
• 9:40
  Glen Erickson: You know, just that same energy.
• 9:41
  Glen Erickson: But maybe I'll get another chance
• 9:43
  alexi: Maybe
• 9:44
  Glen Erickson: to see the guy.
• 9:46
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 9:46
  Glen Erickson: But there's a lot to that song, a lot to that meeting.
• 9:49
  Glen Erickson: I think if anybody's interested at all.
• 9:51
  Glen Erickson: They should also listen to that song Spoiler episode and get all the background on how he wrote the song.
• 9:57
  Glen Erickson: So,
• 9:58
  alexi: that.
• 9:58
  Glen Erickson: yeah, that's it.
• 9:59
  Glen Erickson: That's me.
• 10:00
  alexi: Well, maybe he'll come back to Folk Fest and then you'll get another,
• 10:02
  Glen Erickson: Maybe
• 10:03
  alexi: another chance.
• 10:05
  alexi: Huh?
• 10:06
  alexi: My turn.
• 10:08
  Glen Erickson: abs.
• 10:08
  Glen Erickson: Yeah, absolutely.
• 10:09
  Glen Erickson: There's no other turns.
• 10:10
  alexi: Um, kidding.
• 10:11
  alexi: Okay.
• 10:12
  alexi: I feel like this one's also predictable.
• 10:13
  alexi: I'm not gonna lie.
• 10:14
  alexi: Um, and I don't even have really a story for it.
• 10:17
  alexi: It's just kind of, know.
• 10:19
  alexi: When we, when I first listened to it, I think the first thing I told you was like, oh, it's just like a zero skip album.
• 10:27
  alexi: And some of the songs feel so different.
• 10:30
  alexi: And when you listen to them, like individually, you're like, how are these in the same album?
• 10:33
  alexi: And then when you listen to the whole album, like as a whole and you're like, oh, like these are meant to all be in the same album.
• 10:39
  alexi: but this is her Garden State Vampire by Joe P.
• 10:42
  alexi: It's, it's also very short and sweet and I really like it.
• 10:47
  alexi: It's 37 minutes, um, I think 11 songs, which is very
• 10:51
  Glen Erickson: That's interesting.
• 10:52
  Glen Erickson: Well, it's interesting you point that out because I mean, he's one of a hundred now to cover Bruce Springsteen's.
• 10:58
  Glen Erickson: I'm on fire, which you shared with me, but it's a shorter version of I'm on fire.
• 11:03
  Glen Erickson: I don't think he even makes it to two minutes before he finishes.
• 11:07
  alexi: a hundred.
• 11:07
  alexi: Uh, a minute.
• 11:08
  alexi: 57.
• 11:09
  Glen Erickson: you could have said 157 seconds.
• 11:11
  Glen Erickson: We'd accept it,
• 11:12
  alexi: Thank you.
• 11:13
  Glen Erickson: but it wouldn't be accurate.
• 11:14
  Glen Erickson: 'cause that's not right either.
• 11:16
  Glen Erickson: yeah, so the guy likes short and sweet music.
• 11:19
  alexi: yeah,
• 11:19
  Glen Erickson: I.
• 11:19
  alexi: I, yeah, I don't know.
• 11:21
  alexi: I really like it.
• 11:21
  alexi: Like the one song, um, birthday Baby.
• 11:25
  alexi: like pretty slow and like, for lack of a better term in the moment, like, like almost like a sad, sad or slower song.
• 11:33
  alexi: And then there's other ones like.
• 11:36
  alexi: Off my mind or like she got me, like other ones that are super upbeat and, uh, one or two on, they're like very, very fast paced.
• 11:45
  alexi: but they just all work and they're all good.
• 11:47
  alexi: There's no skips.
• 11:48
  alexi: I like all of them.
• 11:50
  alexi: When I first listened, I didn't like two of the songs so much.
• 11:53
  alexi: but they very heavily grew on me and so now I'm a big fan.
• 11:57
  alexi: But
• 11:57
  Glen Erickson: Well, I mean, off my mind is, on multiple playlists of mine now, thanks to you and probably a song that if I feel like I need to share something newish to somebody
• 12:08
  alexi: A
• 12:08
  Glen Erickson: that wouldn't know them, and maybe also be surprised.
• 12:12
  Glen Erickson: That old man Glen is still in touch?
• 12:15
  Glen Erickson: I would probably pick, that would be one of the songs that I would pick.
• 12:18
  Glen Erickson: 'cause I just think it's really good.
• 12:19
  Glen Erickson: I'm curious about your feeling about them being very different.
• 12:23
  Glen Erickson: Because if I listened to a record and at first the song seemed quite different, I feel like the songwriter maybe just was still in a phase that they hadn't fully found themself.
• 12:34
  Glen Erickson: Like they still felt like they needed to try a bunch of different things.
• 12:37
  Glen Erickson: But you're saying, but you're saying when you listen to it.
• 12:40
  Glen Erickson: Like you realize that yeah, all of these are meant to be together.
• 12:45
  alexi: Yeah.
• 12:46
  alexi: I don't even know how to describe it.
• 12:47
  alexi: It's like, it's not even like undertones, it's just like they all make sense.
• 12:52
  alexi: Maybe it's like the lyrics or the like general kind of portrayed feeling or the, maybe the feeling that the songs leave you with, but like they're, yeah, they're all just quite different.
• 13:05
  alexi: But they all make like kind of, I don't know, make me feel the same type of way.
• 13:08
  alexi: And it's just such a good album for like, I can just hit shuffle on the thing in so many different like times, like if I'm driving to work or like getting ready for the date or like with people chatting in the car and I need like background music or I'm like.
• 13:25
  alexi: Um, studying, like, it's just like, I, it is just one of those albums that I think that's the other reason I chose it is like, it's not often that I save an album on Spotify instead of just like, add songs from it to like playlists.
• 13:37
  alexi: Um, or like, I know that I can just, if I want to listen to a album in its whole that I can just search it and I don't need to be like lazy.
• 13:45
  alexi: Um, but I don't often enough do that, that I save one.
• 13:49
  alexi: But it's one
• 13:49
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 13:50
  alexi: think three that I have like the album.
• 13:53
  alexi: Downloaded and saved.
• 13:54
  alexi: So when I go to like my playlists, the album as a whole is also there.
• 13:58
  alexi: 'cause I so often just go and play it as a
• 14:00
  Glen Erickson: Hmm.
• 14:01
  alexi: and I want on CD so bad, but it's so expensive,
• 14:06
  Glen Erickson: That's crazy that we have to say that.
• 14:08
  Glen Erickson: That's so expensive.
• 14:09
  Glen Erickson: But, um.
• 14:10
  Glen Erickson: I mean, that's an interesting feeling because I think you're right.
• 14:14
  Glen Erickson: Like I lessen less if I go and look and I think I just wanna play an album start to finish, I feel like I'm going back to my old standard favorites and that's it.
• 14:23
  Glen Erickson: I'm either gonna pick one of four records by the national, or one of three records by the war on drugs or you know, or, or bleachers, or a couple of these.
• 14:33
  Glen Erickson: But I mean.
• 14:35
  Glen Erickson: All of those are from quite a while ago.
• 14:37
  Glen Erickson: I feel like you're right.
• 14:38
  Glen Erickson: Less and less Well, am I allowed to give an honorable mention even though it's out of turn?
• 14:43
  alexi: Is it an album too?
• 14:45
  Glen Erickson: Yeah,
• 14:45
  alexi: crazy.
• 14:46
  alexi: Yeah, go ahead.
• 14:47
  Glen Erickson: so, well'cause we're just talking about the experience of it.
• 14:51
  alexi: Yeah.
• 14:51
  Glen Erickson: So the brand new record by this guy Ken Yates, who is a, a favorite.
• 14:57
  Glen Erickson: I only share him, I don't know anybody else who knows.
• 14:59
  Glen Erickson: Ken Yates, I Canadian art artist, I'm pretty sure.
• 15:02
  Glen Erickson: Um,
• 15:03
  alexi: your underground
• 15:03
  Glen Erickson: with.
• 15:04
  alexi: hard
• 15:05
  Glen Erickson: With Mike Angus of the band.
• 15:07
  Glen Erickson: So Mike and I share the love of this guy and I think Mike introduced him to me, to be honest.
• 15:13
  Glen Erickson: And at first I think we listened to some of his early stuff and thought his voice had an Andy SCH quality.
• 15:19
  Glen Erickson: Um, and so we were just interested in it, but the music was a little different.
• 15:24
  Glen Erickson: But, This record feels more like Donovan Woods a little bit with the, with the vocals.
• 15:29
  Glen Erickson: But the, the whole album is consistent.
• 15:32
  Glen Erickson: So it's not like you're Joe p it's the songs all feel like they're cut from the exact same cloth, but they, some of them have just that little bit more character.
• 15:41
  Glen Erickson: And if every other song kind of has like real character despite things feeling the same,
• 15:47
  alexi: Yeah,
• 15:48
  Glen Erickson: don't know.
• 15:48
  Glen Erickson: That's really attractive.
• 15:49
  Glen Erickson: And I, I was driving the other night'cause it was about the fourth time.
• 15:53
  Glen Erickson: I listened to this thing in a row, so you'll have a chuckle about that.
• 15:56
  Glen Erickson: But,
• 15:57
  alexi: yeah.
• 15:57
  Glen Erickson: and the only phrase that came to mind was like, this whole record feels like a warm blanket to me.
• 16:02
  Glen Erickson: Like, and I really liked it and I've missed having one of those.
• 16:06
  alexi: I like
• 16:07
  Glen Erickson: Right.
• 16:07
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 16:09
  Glen Erickson: That, so that's cool.
• 16:10
  alexi: Cute.
• 16:10
  Glen Erickson: That's cool.
• 16:11
  Glen Erickson: Well, I'm glad you brought that one up.
• 16:13
  Glen Erickson: 'cause I think, out of all the music you introduced me to, that Joe P record might be my favorite of all of them.
• 16:19
  alexi: a
• 16:20
  Glen Erickson: So
• 16:20
  alexi: You know, I was gonna
• 16:21
  Glen Erickson: like, yeah,
• 16:22
  alexi: um, mom talking and I was gonna like sail with the Blue Rodeo albums and, and be so serious about it for a few minutes.
• 16:33
  alexi: And then, I.
• 16:33
  Glen Erickson: I would never take you seriously if you tried that.
• 16:37
  alexi: was
• 16:37
  Glen Erickson: I,
• 16:37
  alexi: I think I would say the name and you would be like, okay, come on now.
• 16:41
  alexi: Like
• 16:42
  Glen Erickson: that's funny.
• 16:43
  Glen Erickson: Who opened your door behind you?
• 16:44
  Glen Erickson: The dog.
• 16:45
  alexi: dog.
• 16:46
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 16:47
  Glen Erickson: We can't get mad at the dog then.
• 16:48
  alexi: Well also,'cause
• 16:49
  Glen Erickson: Um,
• 16:49
  alexi: um,
• 16:51
  Glen Erickson: doesn't close.
• 16:51
  Glen Erickson: I know.
• 16:52
  alexi: no, but she learned how to open it even when I have it shut
• 16:56
  Glen Erickson: Oh, smart Doge.
• 16:57
  alexi: no stopping her now.
• 16:59
  Glen Erickson: Smart Doge.
• 17:00
  Glen Erickson: Well, why wouldn't she want to come in and be with you?
• 17:02
  Glen Erickson: That's so sweet.
• 17:04
  Glen Erickson: Okay, two quick things while we wrap up, this little summer mini series'cause then we're gonna take a few weeks off before we launch season two, which we're excited about and we're already recording episodes.
• 17:16
  Glen Erickson: In the, can they like to say in the biz.
• 17:18
  Glen Erickson: I love it.
• 17:19
  Glen Erickson: I'm so happy about where things have already started, which is gonna be great.
• 17:23
  Glen Erickson: But, so two things I wanted to draw attention to.
• 17:27
  Glen Erickson: One, one was specifically around a partnership that we've kind of signed on to.
• 17:34
  Glen Erickson: So the very last episode of season one right, was my friend Jessica Lemon of Lemon Entertainment in the lemon stage.
• 17:42
  Glen Erickson: And.
• 17:42
  Glen Erickson: They are doing this thing called Music Day in Canada and they did it last year and it's like, uh, an initiative to start promoting both venues and kind of up and coming artists in places and just kind of give that grassroots focus and, I.
• 17:58
  Glen Erickson: They're trying to expand it this year, which I think is exciting into more cities and more exposure, and so we decided that we'd partner on that and that almost famous enough would maybe do a version of, we're still working out the details, like a little side bonus So you can look forward to hearing more of that from us.
• 18:17
  Glen Erickson: And on our socials, I'll be sharing a lot of their things as well.
• 18:21
  Glen Erickson: And then working towards building some content around, promoting all of that and hopefully getting people to buy into supporting some.
• 18:29
  Glen Erickson: Some local efforts in their, in their places across the country, and we love a, we love a national focus thing.
• 18:36
  alexi: Yes.
• 18:37
  Glen Erickson: Because it's very easy for us to get Edmonton and Alberta focused.
• 18:42
  Glen Erickson: so that's great.
• 18:43
  Glen Erickson: So that's number one I would want people to pay attention to.
• 18:46
  Glen Erickson: Number two, the other reason I would ask any listeners to pay attention to the socials is I'll probably be doing some of my shameless pleading for.
• 18:55
  Glen Erickson: Um, people to do what they can if they appreciate our efforts and what we're loving to do with the podcast.
• 19:04
  Glen Erickson: Um, the only way to crack the algorithms, everybody knows it is.
• 19:10
  Glen Erickson: Some version of authentic engagement, so to speak, right.
• 19:14
  Glen Erickson: Engagement, air quotes.
• 19:16
  Glen Erickson: but it, you know, I just, I need real people if they care even a little bit and make an effort to either share a thing or click on a thing or listen to a thing all the way through.
• 19:29
  Glen Erickson: yeah, that's the only way for me to sort of be able to grow.
• 19:33
  Glen Erickson: Things really well, besides the obvious, which is like, work hard at making a good podcast, uh, for people, which is actually all that you and I really care about.
• 19:43
  Glen Erickson: but you can't, you, you get even good things get buried and so I have to be willing to ask for help.
• 19:52
  Glen Erickson: So I may be out there asking for people's help as we get rolling with season two to kick it off with a bang.
• 19:59
  Glen Erickson: That's all.
• 19:59
  alexi: Yeah.
• 20:00
  alexi: Yeah.
• 20:00
  alexi: Okay.
• 20:01
  Glen Erickson: it.
• 20:01
  Glen Erickson: I'm not gonna ask you to put it all over your socials.
• 20:04
  Glen Erickson: Don't worry.
• 20:05
  alexi: I'm just a girl.
• 20:07
  Glen Erickson: Are you just, oh, that's the answer.
• 20:10
  Glen Erickson: Oh my goodness.
• 20:11
  alexi: I am just
• 20:11
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 20:13
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 20:14
  Glen Erickson: That, that seems to cover so many different things.
• 20:16
  Glen Erickson: I don't know how or where it came from, but good for you.
• 20:18
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 20:20
  Glen Erickson: Uh, that works for me.
• 20:21
  Glen Erickson: Thanks for doing the fun series with me.
• 20:23
  Glen Erickson: It's been, it's been a lot of fun.
• 20:25
  Glen Erickson: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Glen Erickson: Well, we'll we could have just slid over that, but I guess, yeah,
• 20:29
  alexi: Oh.
• 20:30
  Glen Erickson: it is, the fun is more important than the mistakes, Lexi.
• 20:34
  alexi: yeah, I think we killed it regardless, so it's okay.
• 20:37
  Glen Erickson: Okay, good.
• 20:37
  Glen Erickson: I'm glad you think so.
• 20:38
  Glen Erickson: Okay.
• 20:38
  Glen Erickson: Thank you.
• 20:39
  Glen Erickson: Love you.
• 20:40
  alexi: you.
• 20:40
  alexi: Bye.
• 20:41
  Glen Erickson: Okay, bye.