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Episode #3951 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive August 2001 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour from the Phil Henry
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Speaker 1: Radio Hall of Fame show on our website, philhenryshow.com. From
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Speaker 1: August of 2001, when Margaret, before she was a member
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Speaker 1: of the panel, was a regular guest, a call-in, she
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Speaker 1: was a writer, and she had the goods on all
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Speaker 1: kinds of stuff we thought. Here's one of the goofier
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Speaker 1: things that she claimed. She claimed to be the first person,
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Speaker 1: her entire family, in fact, were the first people to
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Speaker 1: do Labor Day barbecuing. And she told the callers that
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Speaker 1: she owns the tradition and Americans need to request permission
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Speaker 1: From her. At the very tail end of this bit,
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Speaker 1: a clinical psychologist calls in and tells me that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm being very cruel. I shouldn't keep her on the air.
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Speaker 1: She obviously is delusional, and we should just, you know,
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Speaker 1: get rid of her. So, and it's been years since then,
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Speaker 1: and we haven't got rid of her yet. Here's Margaret.
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Speaker 1: Margaret Gray joins us. She's the author of A Little Bird, Toby,
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Speaker 1: a weekly newspaper column published in 150 papers. And you
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Speaker 1: are making no mistake about it. You're using your column
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Speaker 1: on Monday as the bully pulpit.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Phil. There are times when, yes, I am fortunate
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Speaker 2: to have my own newspaper column. Yes, I will use
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Speaker 2: it in order to further a personal agenda, but I
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Speaker 2: think it really means so much to my family.
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Speaker 1: Now, you are in a dispute with a friend, Nikki Hayes, correct?
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Speaker 2: That is a friend of ours in Santa Monica who
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Speaker 2: continues to barbecue on Labor Days, even though we had
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Speaker 2: sent her the notice that Frank and I... in nineteen
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Speaker 2: seventy one with the very first family ever to have
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Speaker 2: a labor day barbecue now yes there were picnics yes
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Speaker 2: there were a different uh... celebration but there have never
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Speaker 2: been a labor day barbecue now.
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Speaker 1: You acknowledge that there had been labor day cookouts correct
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Speaker 1: is that.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely in other words going up to the mountains are
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Speaker 2: going to a park that doesn't count i'm talking about
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Speaker 2: barbecuing in your own backyard we were the first And
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Speaker 2: I will tell you, Phil, that it has really hurt
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Speaker 2: me to watch something that my family created being co-opted
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Speaker 2: by millions of other people and turned into something that
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Speaker 2: no one even has the common courtesy to give us
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Speaker 2: our credit for.
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Speaker 1: Well, how did this all start? Margaret, you were married
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Speaker 1: 30 years ago to Frank Gray. He's your husband and
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Speaker 1: an attorney?
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Speaker 3: That is correct.
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Speaker 1: And I know that he's a... And a little bit
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Speaker 1: of an invalid now, but at the time you were young.
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Speaker 2: How old were you?
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Speaker 1: I was 23. 23 years of age. You guys had
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Speaker 1: just gotten married.
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Speaker 2: Back in 71, we wanted to do something. We are
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Speaker 2: lifelong Republicans. And what had happened was that the Democratic
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Speaker 2: Party and the labor unions had co-opted Labor Day. And
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Speaker 2: it suddenly became a celebration of Democratic Party politics. We
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Speaker 2: wanted to do something special. I was looking at our
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Speaker 2: barbecue in the backyard. I looked at Frank, and I
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Speaker 2: hit upon the idea, why don't we have a Labor
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Speaker 2: Day barbecue? And he said, you mean like the cookouts
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Speaker 2: they have at the beach? I said, yes. He said,
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Speaker 2: my God, that is fantastic. And we invited our friends.
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Speaker 2: We let them know that it was a Republican Labor
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Speaker 2: Day party barbecue. We started doing this annually and gradually
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Speaker 2: felt ourselves, just really felt ourselves crestfallen as every year
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Speaker 2: people started barbecuing, didn't give us credit, didn't say, thank you,
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Speaker 2: Margaret and Frank, for inventing the Labor Day barbecue. Thank you,
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Speaker 2: Margaret and Frank, for giving us the idea. Until finally
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Speaker 2: I couldn't stand it any longer, and this year I
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Speaker 2: went to my editor, Dan Tolkien, over at the Syndicate,
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Speaker 2: And I told him, Dan, Frank and I invented the
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Speaker 2: Labor Day barbecue. What can I do? He said, Margaret,
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Speaker 2: do what you do best. Write about it.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're talking with Margaret Gray, a nationally syndicated columnist,
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Speaker 1: Frank and herself. And you have a son, don't you?
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Speaker 2: Jason J. Delmonico, yes.
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Speaker 1: And he's, how old is he, 13?
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Speaker 3: 13.
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Speaker 1: All right. But you guys were barbecuing before he was born.
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Speaker 1: It's difficult. Now, I've got one of your columns here.
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Speaker 1: A Tradition Stolen is the name of the column that
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Speaker 1: you're going to be publishing on Monday. You believe that
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Speaker 1: your tradition of barbecuing on Labor Day was stolen.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Now, I've got to tell you something. It seems to
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Speaker 1: me I've been barbecuing on Labor Day.
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Speaker 2: But if you think about it, when was the first
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Speaker 2: Labor Day barbecue? You don't really know, do you?
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Speaker 1: Well, I know that we had outdoor cookouts, but you're
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Speaker 1: not counting that.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean a backyard barbecue. We were the first. Now.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's look at this.
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Speaker 2: Bill, I just want to say... We feel that a
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Speaker 2: tradition has been stolen. Frank and I, even though he
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Speaker 2: is wheelchair-bound and can only signal his emotions using an
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Speaker 2: air straw, we feel this way. Now, here's the best part.
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Speaker 2: I'm in Gelson's.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is when you had the run-in with the neighbor,
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Speaker 1: and I want to take a break here just to
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Speaker 1: give our phone number, okay?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686. Margaret Gray's column on Monday, A Little Bird Told Me,
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Speaker 1: will be about her and her husband Frank invented the
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Speaker 1: tradition of a Labor Day barbecue now everybody's doing it
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Speaker 1: and you're angry I'm very angry and a.
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Speaker 2: Lot of my friends who do know us they're angry
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Speaker 2: for us they're hurt for us more.
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Speaker 1: Than anything else and you're hurt because no one gives
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Speaker 1: you guys credit.
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Speaker 2: No one gives us the credit no one and here's
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Speaker 2: what happened just so you know I was in Gelson's
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Speaker 2: getting our meats for the barbecue two days ago and
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Speaker 2: we're having some people over on Monday I see Nikki
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Speaker 2: Hayes there who is a very dear friend I noticed
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Speaker 2: that she's doing again. She has hamburger meat that she
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Speaker 2: intends to barbecue. And I decided this year I'd say something,
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Speaker 2: and I did. I said, when are you going to
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Speaker 2: start giving Frank and I some credit for these barbecues
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Speaker 2: that you have every Labor Day? She calls me a liar.
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Speaker 1: She calls you a liar.
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Speaker 2: To my face, yes. I said, when are you going
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Speaker 2: to give us some credit for these barbecues? And as
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Speaker 2: a reporter, Phil, being called a liar is an absolute affront.
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Speaker 2: She had the gall to say it wasn't our creation.
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Speaker 2: So I attempted to remove the hamburger from her basket.
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Speaker 1: All right. Now, what about all of the people that
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Speaker 1: were there?
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Speaker 2: All the other people that were in line. One thing
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Speaker 2: that Nikki knows full well, Frank and I invented barbecuing
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Speaker 2: on Labor Day. So I reached for the hamburger. She
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Speaker 2: began tugging it away from me. I pushed her through
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Speaker 2: a rack of magazines. And now we get these letters
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Speaker 2: from attorneys.
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Speaker 1: Well, isn't that a little juvenile?
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Speaker 2: You know, Phil, I.
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Speaker 1: I mean, to get into some kind of a pushing match,
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Speaker 1: whether you invented the Labor Day barbecue, you know.
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Speaker 2: Please, Phil, please give us the common respect to acknowledge
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Speaker 2: that Frank and I invented the Labor Day barbecue.
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Speaker 1: I can't do that. All I'm going to say is
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Speaker 1: I will give you all due respect that you believe
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Speaker 1: that you did that. But whether you did or not,
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Speaker 1: you get in a pushing match, you push her through
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Speaker 1: a rack... of of magazines she.
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Speaker 2: Went right through it and let me tell you something
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Speaker 2: i didn't push her that hard so what she's faking
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Speaker 2: it i don't know but what happened was uh... but
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Speaker 2: all of that took place when she insisted on giving
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Speaker 2: frank and i are not giving frank and i a
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Speaker 2: credit for inventing barbecuing on labor day they're in line
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Speaker 2: at gelson so that at least the people in line
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Speaker 2: could hear it so she's attempting now to sue me
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Speaker 2: and what we've done and we feel we are within
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Speaker 2: our rights We got a hold of the guest list
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Speaker 2: for her so-called barbecue, and I put that in quotes.
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Speaker 2: Her so-called barbecue, which we invented, and she stole. And
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Speaker 2: we're sending out letters to all those people telling them
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Speaker 2: Nikki's barbecue has been canceled.
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Speaker 1: All right, now you're messing with the woman's... How did
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Speaker 1: you get the guest list?
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say. My son is good friends
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Speaker 2: with their son. I really don't want to say. But
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what right now. She's going to be
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Speaker 2: looking in the bowl every time she pulls the chain.
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Speaker 1: All of this having to do with the fact that
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Speaker 1: you guys have not been given credit for inventing the
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Speaker 1: Labor Day barbecue.
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Speaker 2: And I can hear the skepticism.
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Speaker 1: Well, of course you hear the skepticism, because.
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Speaker 2: You can't trace back, Phil. The first time you had
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Speaker 2: a barbecue on Labor Day, you yourself can't remember. But
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Speaker 2: Frank and I started the tradition. Now, it's one thing
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Speaker 2: for people to have barbecues on Labor Day... It's another
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Speaker 2: thing entirely not to acknowledge, at least, that Frank and
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Speaker 2: I invented the idea. And I am getting so tired
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Speaker 2: of it that I took matters into my own hands.
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Speaker 1: Well, grabbing the hamburger meat out of somebody's shopping cart,
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Speaker 1: getting into a tug-of-war over it, she going through a
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Speaker 1: magazine rack, you falling on your rear end or whatever happened,
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Speaker 1: and then you get a hold of the guest list
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Speaker 1: for a party and tell them that it's all canceled...
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Speaker 1: I think is going a little overboard. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, what do you suggest?
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Speaker 1: What are you writing about exactly in your column?
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Speaker 2: We're going to take credit for the fact that we
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Speaker 2: invented the barbecue. We invented the hamburger cookout on Labor Day.
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Speaker 2: We invented the outdoor backyard barbecue.
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Speaker 1: Not the park cookout.
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Speaker 2: No, that is done when you put sticks through the wieners.
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Speaker 2: We did it on a kettle drum, on a kettle barbecue.
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Speaker 2: So in other words.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. When you're cooking out in a park,
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Speaker 1: you're doing.
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Speaker 2: You're putting sticks into the wieners and cooking them over
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Speaker 2: a grill that millions of other people have used. God
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Speaker 2: knows what disease. Now, this is on your very own
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Speaker 2: gas grill. And Frank and I were one of the
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Speaker 2: first in our neighborhood to get the gas grill. And
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Speaker 2: I can still remember Bill Palsley lived next door. I said, Bill,
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Speaker 2: are you still using that charcoal? And he looks at
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Speaker 2: me with that stupid look. it's a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a look at this and i showed him a protein
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Speaker 2: grill so there's a lot of things that we've tried
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Speaker 2: to lead.
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Speaker 1: The way with So you were the first guys not
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Speaker 1: to use a propane grill?
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Speaker 2: On our street, Phil.
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Speaker 1: All right. So you started a barbecue on Labor Day.
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Speaker 1: The first people to use a propane grill on your block,
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Speaker 1: you want credit for this?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And we're writing our column about this. It will appear
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Speaker 2: in the And I think finally... Well, it's been a
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Speaker 2: long time.
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Speaker 1: If you wanted to take credit before now, you know.
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Speaker 2: You know, I thought about it, and I thought, no,
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Speaker 2: I want to be bigger than that. I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to let little people, little people with their little barbecues,
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Speaker 2: their little charcoal barbecues. And now we have done something
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Speaker 2: which I'm very proud of. Instead of using the propane tank,
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Speaker 2: we have connected our gas line directly to the gas
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Speaker 2: line in the house so that our gas barbecue... now
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Speaker 2: feeds off of the gas from the house. You see
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And we never have to replace the propane tank. So
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Speaker 2: we're doing all of these things. No one gives us credit.
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Speaker 2: And it's, can I use a colloquial phrase, Phil?
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Speaker 1: Be my guest. We've got to take a break here.
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Speaker 2: It pisses me off.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what? You know, you can't copyright the
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Speaker 1: idea if you want to take credit for it. But
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Speaker 1: trying to say that a woman can't have a barbecue
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Speaker 1: until she acknowledges you as the one who invented the
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Speaker 1: Labor Day barbecue may be going over the line here.
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Speaker 1: Our number is 1-800-449-8686. You just heard her. She doesn't
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Speaker 1: mind the fact that people are not going to acknowledge.
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Speaker 1: I guess she does mind that people won't acknowledge that
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Speaker 1: she and Frank invented having Labor Day barbecues. She's not
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Speaker 1: going to let them have one, at least not her neighbor.
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Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Margaret Gray, my guest here on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 1: And this controversy about her invention of the Labor Day barbecue,
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Speaker 1: the first people to use actual gas grills, and the
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Speaker 1: first people to actually use gas coming out of the
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Speaker 1: house instead of the propane tank that you have to refill.
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Speaker 1: All of this, she and Frank started. We'll be back
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Speaker 1: on The Phil Henry Show. The Phil Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 1: You're going to hurt somebody, okay?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: You're going to hurt somebody by taking M80s. You know
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Speaker 1: what an M80 is?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I know what an M80 is.
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Speaker 1: By taking M-80s and painting them black and putting them
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Speaker 1: in the bottom of her barbecue, she's going to light those.
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Speaker 2: They're in the bottom of the barbecue. They're not going
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Speaker 2: to hurt anyone. It'll scare her, and it'll make her
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Speaker 2: think twice about barbecuing. On a day when Frank and
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Speaker 2: I invented the Labor Day barbecue. Now, Phil, I am.
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Speaker 1: You're going to hurt somebody. She's going to light those
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Speaker 1: M80s thinking that they're black charcoal briquettes and something as
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Speaker 1: bad is going to happen.
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Speaker 2: She'll be looking in a bowl before she pulls the chain.
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Speaker 2: Come on. Come on.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It sounds very dangerous.
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Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: The Phil Henry Show with Margaret Gray, who is on
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Speaker 1: our show claiming that she and her husband, Frank, invented
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Speaker 1: the Labor Day barbecue, not the cookout, the barbecue.
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Speaker 2: And you saying that I'm making a claim really hurts, Phil.
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Speaker 1: I can't verify that you guys invented it. All I
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Speaker 1: know is you're going to write a column on Monday
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Speaker 1: claiming to the entire country that you guys invented it,
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Speaker 1: that because your neighbor won't acknowledge that you invented it,
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Speaker 1: you're going to, you tried to steal the hamburger meat
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Speaker 1: from her, you are planting M80s in the bottom of
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Speaker 1: her barbecue, and you're trying to get her barbecue canceled,
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Speaker 1: writing letters to all of her friends. Here is Jack
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Speaker 1: on the Phil Henry Show. Jack?
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Speaker 5: Good evening.
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Speaker 1: Good evening, sir.
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Speaker 5: This lady needs psychiatric help. I mean, she is.
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Speaker 2: I beg your pardon?
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Speaker 5: She's in big problems. She's got big problems. She should
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Speaker 5: have been arrested for assaulting her neighbor.
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Speaker 2: Why did I assault a neighbor? I took the hamburger.
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Speaker 5: You pushed your neighbor... You pushed your neighbor through a
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Speaker 5: magazine rack. And I had barbecues long before you were born.
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Speaker 6: Where?
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Speaker 2: Where?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 5: In Brooklyn, New York, Astoria, Long Island, Denver, Colorado.
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Speaker 2: First of all, Brooklyn, I don't think you have backyards there.
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Speaker 5: They don't, huh?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 5: You're an idiot. You don't know what you're even talking about.
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Speaker 5: They don't have backyards in New York.
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Speaker 2: They have apartment buildings. Phil, have you ever been to Brooklyn?
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Speaker 5: I lived in a brown home with a lovely backyard.
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Speaker 2: A backyard in what sense?
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Speaker 5: What do you mean, in what sense?
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Speaker 2: What do you mean by backyard?
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Speaker 1: What does he mean by backyard?
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Speaker 2: Oh, you see, this is what I'm talking about. I
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Speaker 2: know what an outdoor cookout is. I'm talking about a barbecue.
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Speaker 2: See what I'm saying, Jack?
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Speaker 5: Right, lady. Lady, you're so bad off. How long have
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Speaker 5: you had psychiatric help?
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Speaker 2: How long have you been imagining you've been having barbecues?
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Speaker 5: You invent it. I know a doctor here in Denver
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Speaker 5: who had a Gas grill with the gas running from
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Speaker 5: his house 30 years ago. 30 years ago.
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Speaker 2: You know something, Jack, and I'm going to try to
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Speaker 2: be kind. How old are you?
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Speaker 1: Don't be.
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Speaker 5: What kind are you, lady?
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Speaker 2: How old are you?
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Speaker 5: 79, and I'm in sound mind and body.
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Speaker 2: Of course you are.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
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Speaker 2: 79.
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Speaker 1: Well, what does that mean?
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Speaker 2: I think we.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, dear. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 5: This psycho thinks I'm senile.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Are you saying the man is senile?
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jack, for your call. Very interesting.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're interesting, lady.
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Speaker 1: Are you saying that this guy is senile or not?
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Speaker 2: I just want to thank the very nice man for calling.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Lady, lady, see a doctor before you commit suicide.
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Speaker 2: All right. No, I feel great. But I'll tell you
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Speaker 2: one thing. Yeah. Nobody, and I mean nobody, and that
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Speaker 2: includes you, Jack, puts hamburger meat in their basket to
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Speaker 2: barbecue on Labor Day without first talking to me or
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Speaker 2: my husband, Frank Gray. And I'd be happy to give
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Speaker 2: you that number.
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Speaker 5: And nobody barbecues? What, are you going to stop me?
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Speaker 3: Maybe.
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Speaker 2: Maybe.
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Speaker 5: You're going to stop me?
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Speaker 2: Stop you from barbecuing, yes.
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Speaker 5: You will?
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Speaker 1: Why? How can you stop the guy from barbecuing, okay?
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Speaker 1: The guy is going to barbecue on Labor Day. You
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Speaker 1: don't have a copyright. You don't have a patent. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Well, Nikki Hayes had better give me credit for this
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Speaker 2: wonderful idea, if she knows what's good for her, too.
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Speaker 2: I'm getting sick and tired of people stealing the ideas
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Speaker 2: from me, stealing all of the cons. Barbecue, gas, grill.
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Speaker 1: Well, this guy said 30 years ago he knew a
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Speaker 1: guy that stubbed the gas... From his house.
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Speaker 2: Stubbed it. See, that's the difference.
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Speaker 1: Well, what's the difference? Stubbed it, ran a line from
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Speaker 1: his house, the gas. Here is Clint on the Phil
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Speaker 1: Henry Show. Hello?
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Speaker 3: I think what we've got here is just some woman
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Speaker 3: wants a little publicity, and you guys played right in
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Speaker 3: her hand.
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Speaker 7: Oh, really?
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Speaker 6: She's a nut.
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Speaker 2: I'm a nut. Are you another guy that claims he's
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Speaker 2: been barbecuing for a long time?
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Speaker 1: I've been barbecuing for 50 years in Missouri, California, and
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Speaker 1: back in Missouri.
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Speaker 2: All right, 50 years, 35. My neighbors come over every
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Speaker 2: Labor Day, Memorial Day, Fourth of July.
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Speaker 5: We barbecue ribs.
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Speaker 3: We barbecue steaks.
17:20
Speaker 2: We barbecue hamburgers. How do you know you're not just
17:22
Speaker 2: thinking about Memorial Day and Fourth of July? How do
17:24
Speaker 2: you know you're not just talking about it? How do
17:26
Speaker 2: you just know it's not Labor Day?
17:28
Speaker 5: You invented it 30 years ago. There was a million
17:30
Speaker 5: barbecue pits sold before you ever so-called invented it.
17:34
Speaker 2: No, I said the gas grill.
17:36
Speaker 3: Oh, the gas grill. You're a goddamn joke to begin
17:38
Speaker 3: with on a gas grill.
17:39
Speaker 2: First of all, when did you start using a gas grill?
17:41
Speaker 2: About 15 years, 20 years ago. Oh, there you go. Well,
17:44
Speaker 2: 30 years ago, we started not only using the gas grill,
17:47
Speaker 2: but running the gas line from our house.
17:50
Speaker 5: Well, the gas grill, my dear, is a joke.
17:52
Speaker 2: No one had ever thought of it.
17:54
Speaker 3: You're just a big joke.
17:56
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this much, that you probably
17:59
Speaker 2: don't know the difference between Labor Day and the Fourth
18:01
Speaker 2: of July in your memory.
18:03
Speaker 1: So what are you saying? The guy's probably remembering back
18:06
Speaker 1: on a barbecue that he had on the Fourth of
18:08
Speaker 1: July when, in point of fact, it was Labor Day?
18:10
Speaker 2: Exactly. Frank and I were the first to use potato
18:17
Speaker 2: salad at Labor Day barbecues.
18:19
Speaker 1: All right, listen, thanks for your call there, Clint. You're
18:22
Speaker 1: starting to make some claims here that are starting to
18:25
Speaker 1: scare me because you've had at least two people claim
18:28
Speaker 1: that you're nuts.
18:29
Speaker 2: Phil, if you think back and you're honest with yourself,
18:32
Speaker 2: these people, they can't remember when they first tasted potato
18:35
Speaker 2: salad at a barbecue. The reason is because I started barbecue.
18:41
Speaker 1: How do you know they all copied you? Maybe some
18:43
Speaker 1: guy in Chicago started using potato salad. Why you?
18:47
Speaker 2: Because I live in the media capital of the country,
18:50
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Ideas flow out from here. Someone uses potato
18:54
Speaker 2: salad for the first time. Next thing you know, it's
18:57
Speaker 2: all over the country like a virus, like a sickness.
19:00
Speaker 2: Same thing with gas grills. Do you understand what I'm saying?
19:03
Speaker 1: But it did not make any sense because people think
19:06
Speaker 1: you're nuts that you invented barbecues and gas grills and
19:10
Speaker 1: stubbing the line from the house, potato salad, all kinds
19:13
Speaker 1: of crap. But the bottom line is, when you were
19:15
Speaker 1: pushing one of your neighbors around, Frank.
19:18
Speaker 2: And I were the first to put bacon in baked beans.
19:21
Speaker 1: Oh, come on! 1-800-4-BACON-IN-BAKED-BEANS 1-800-449-8686. We ought to hook her
19:32
Speaker 1: up with Ted Bell. He's the first guy ever to
19:34
Speaker 1: use the tinfoil around a baked potato. Margaret Gray is
19:39
Speaker 1: with us. Her column is going to deal with this
19:41
Speaker 1: on Monday. A little bird told me it's called A
19:43
Speaker 1: Tradition Stolen and how her family had the tradition of
19:47
Speaker 1: Labor Day barbecuing stolen from them. and now it's being
19:50
Speaker 1: done all over the place. The Phil Henry Show is back.
20:00
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something, Margaret. I just had
20:01
Speaker 1: a guy claiming to be an ATF agent call this show, okay?
20:05
Speaker 2: ATF?
20:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, those alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, all right? Yes.
20:10
Speaker 2: What did you say to him?
20:11
Speaker 1: Well, I told him to go to hell. I didn't
20:13
Speaker 1: actually say go to hell. I used some stronger language.
20:16
Speaker 2: You told an ATF agent to go to hell.
20:18
Speaker 4: Why?
20:19
Speaker 1: Because he probably wasn't really an ATF agent. But in fact,
20:21
Speaker 1: even if he was an ATF agent, he can still
20:23
Speaker 1: screw off. But the point is, if he's a real guy,
20:26
Speaker 1: he's on to you.
20:27
Speaker 2: On to what?
20:28
Speaker 1: You're painting M-80s black and putting them in a barbecue.
20:32
Speaker 1: You're going to blow somebody up.
20:33
Speaker 3: Phil....
20:36
Speaker 2: We own the rights to barbecuing.
20:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, you own the rights. There's no patent on what
20:41
Speaker 1: you do, owning the rights to barbecuing on Labor Day.
20:43
Speaker 1: This is the specific thing. You say that you and
20:45
Speaker 1: Frank started barbecuing on Labor Day.
20:49
Speaker 2: You know how you can't rebroadcast a baseball game without
20:52
Speaker 2: the express written permission of Major League Baseball? That's what
20:56
Speaker 2: will need to be done with the Labor Day barbecue.
20:58
Speaker 2: All we're asking is that people.
21:00
Speaker 1: Call you and Frank. Is there a number?
21:02
Speaker 2: Yes.
21:03
Speaker 1: Give out the number.
21:05
Speaker 2: Please call 213-251-3189 and get permission to barbecue on Labor Day.
21:13
Speaker 2: We'd be happy to give it to you. But I
21:15
Speaker 2: don't want any of you walking into a supermarket like
21:18
Speaker 2: some loose slut and buying barbecued hamburger meat thinking you're
21:23
Speaker 2: just going to throw your meat on a grill. Ain't
21:26
Speaker 2: gonna happen. All right, 1-800-444... You know, I really resent
21:32
Speaker 2: being laughed at.
21:32
Speaker 1: Well, it's a nutty, goofy... thing we're doing here. 1-800-449-8686. Harl?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
21:40
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, go ahead.
21:42
Speaker 7: Oh, let me tell you, this is the craziest thing
21:45
Speaker 7: I have ever heard of. I have a barbecue pit
21:48
Speaker 7: that's mounted on a trailer. I've been participating in cook-offs
21:52
Speaker 7: for over 20-something years.
21:55
Speaker 2: My father did barbecues every.
21:57
Speaker 7: Weekend in Galveston County. back in the 40s and 50s.
22:02
Speaker 7: And the biggest point.
22:04
Speaker 2: Is, you do not barbecue hamburgers. First of all, first
22:11
Speaker 2: of all.
22:11
Speaker 1: His name isn't Hurl, his name is Harl. Your name's Harl, right?
22:16
Speaker 1: She's calling you Hurl. Alright, hold on. Now the question
22:21
Speaker 1: that you had, Margaret, was what?
22:23
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not talking about you guys taking
22:25
Speaker 2: a trailer and cooking. I mean in the backyard.
22:29
Speaker 7: Well, my dad back in the 40s and 50s every
22:33
Speaker 7: weekend did it with a 55-gallon drum.
22:36
Speaker 4: But he did not do no hamburgers.
22:38
Speaker 2: Did what with a 55-gallon drum?
22:39
Speaker 7: We did ribs, or we did briskets, or a roast.
22:42
Speaker 2: A brisket? You don't barbecue a brisket. You barbecue bratwurst, steak, ribs, sausage, link,
22:51
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Burgers, but not a brisket, Harl.
22:55
Speaker 1: Harl. Well, Harl, I mean Harl.
22:58
Speaker 2: Harl Hurled?
22:59
Speaker 1: He's gone. Marianne, you're on the Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 4: Hello?
23:05
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Hi, Marianne. Go ahead, Marianne. Marianne, start again.
23:10
Speaker 1: Start again. We didn't hear you. Start again, dear.
23:12
Speaker 2: Okay. Hi, I just want to tell you.
23:16
Speaker 3: That my name is Marianne. I've been barbecuing since 1963.
23:20
Speaker 2: Where?
23:21
Speaker 3: In Hicksville, Long Island.
23:22
Speaker 2: Did you have a backyard?
23:23
Speaker 3: Yes, we did. A big backyard with a pool. And
23:26
Speaker 3: on top of that, We had.
23:28
Speaker 2: What kind of a pool? Was it a dough boy?
23:30
Speaker 2: Was it a.
23:30
Speaker 1: What difference does it make? She had a pool.
23:32
Speaker 3: It does not matter. I'm telling you about what we had.
23:34
Speaker 3: We had hamburgers, frankfurters. We had.
23:38
Speaker 2: Frankfurters. What about hot dogs?
23:42
Speaker 3: And hot dogs.
23:42
Speaker 2: All right.
23:43
Speaker 3: And everything was done. Now, here's how I know that
23:45
Speaker 3: she's not.
23:45
Speaker 4: Telling the truth.
23:46
Speaker 3: That was past your time. This is early before your time.
23:49
Speaker 2: Donna, wait a second. First of all, here's how I
23:51
Speaker 2: know you may be mistaken. Frankfurters and hot dogs are
23:55
Speaker 2: the same thing.
23:56
Speaker 3: Right.
23:56
Speaker 2: So you're messing with it there. And secondly.
23:59
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't prove she wasn't barbecuing.
24:01
Speaker 3: That's right.
24:01
Speaker 1: You threw the word at me.
24:03
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
24:03
Speaker 2: No, Marianne. Marianne, darling.
24:05
Speaker 3: I said you threw the word at me. We're not
24:07
Speaker 3: in a court of law.
24:08
Speaker 2: Barbecuing on Labor Day. I'm just telling you.
24:10
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. We had hamburger.
24:12
Speaker 2: The other reason why I think she's.
24:14
Speaker 3: Not telling the truth.
24:18
Speaker 3: I made the old-fashioned cucumber sour cream.
24:22
Speaker 7: And when was that?
24:22
Speaker 3: I made macaroni salad.
24:24
Speaker 2: On what day?
24:24
Speaker 3: And that was always on Memorial Day.
24:26
Speaker 2: What city? On Memorial Day.
24:28
Speaker 3: And we had the neighbors on the block.
24:30
Speaker 2: What city?
24:31
Speaker 3: In Hicksville, Long Island.
24:32
Speaker 2: Were you married at the time?
24:33
Speaker 3: Of course we were.
24:35
Speaker 2: All right.
24:35
Speaker 4: You and who? My husband.
24:37
Speaker 1: Her husband.
24:38
Speaker 2: Of course we were.
24:39
Speaker 3: Who was I married to?
24:40
Speaker 2: Who were you married to?
24:42
Speaker 3: My husband.
24:42
Speaker 2: All right, see, first of all.
24:43
Speaker 3: I'm going to be married 40 years this Monday.
24:45
Speaker 2: All right, Marianne, first of all, here's where I have
24:47
Speaker 2: to poke holes in your theory. Number one, only the
24:49
Speaker 2: men barbecue. Women rarely do. Now, if your husband was
24:52
Speaker 2: talking to me, I might be a little bit more
24:55
Speaker 2: prone to believe him, but I think your memory is
24:57
Speaker 2: sketchy about Labor Day as opposed to Memorial Day and
25:02
Speaker 2: Fourth of July.
25:03
Speaker 3: We celebrated all of them because we all had pools,
25:06
Speaker 3: above-the-ground pools.
25:07
Speaker 2: Yes, that's it, a doughboy.
25:09
Speaker 3: No, we did not have a Doughboy. It was something
25:11
Speaker 3: else on Long Island that came. There was a pool
25:14
Speaker 3: company on Long Island that we had it, and mine was...
25:16
Speaker 3: A pool company?
25:17
Speaker 2: I don't know.
25:18
Speaker 1: Pool company.
25:19
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. Now, the potato salad that you homemade,
25:22
Speaker 2: you didn't buy it at the store or in the deli.
25:25
Speaker 3: I was homemade. I make everything homemade. And my cucumber.
25:30
Speaker 2: You want me to get the recipe from my mother
25:32
Speaker 2: from Poland?
25:33
Speaker 4: I certainly will.
25:34
Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing.
25:35
Speaker 1: Why are you asking, Margaret, about the potato salad?
25:38
Speaker 2: Because I'm talking about deli potato salad.
25:41
Speaker 4: No, no.
25:41
Speaker 3: This is homemade potato salad. You put onions and you
25:45
Speaker 3: put grated onions and you put salt, pepper, and mayonnaise.
25:48
Speaker 1: Margaret, are you the one who, you're saying then that
25:50
Speaker 1: you and Frank were the first ones to bring deli
25:53
Speaker 1: potato salad to a backyard barbecue?
25:56
Speaker 6: Exactly.
25:56
Speaker 4: Exactly.
25:57
Speaker 3: No, no, this was homemade. You didn't say that before.
25:59
Speaker 2: I said it was homemade.
26:00
Speaker 3: This is homemade potato salad.
26:01
Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't count. That doesn't count. It has to
26:03
Speaker 2: be deli.
26:04
Speaker 4: No, no.
26:05
Speaker 3: I always made homemade salad, potato salad, macaroni salad.
26:08
Speaker 2: I was the first.
26:09
Speaker 3: Not only that, but then after that we went to
26:11
Speaker 3: other parties on the block. We all did turns for
26:14
Speaker 3: the holidays.
26:15
Speaker 6: All homemade.
26:16
Speaker 3: Some of them made and some of them bought. Well,
26:21
Speaker 3: this is going back years ago, and we lived in Hicksville,
26:24
Speaker 3: Long Island, across from Plainview, which they had a fantastic
26:27
Speaker 3: deli that made all the salads you could want.
26:30
Speaker 2: Mary Ann, here are the things that I'm trying, and
26:31
Speaker 2: you're not listening to me, dear. Did the potato salad
26:34
Speaker 2: have pickles in it? No, we make that now. Yes,
26:37
Speaker 2: that's the other thing.
26:38
Speaker 3: We make that now with potato salad.
26:40
Speaker 5: Do you know that?
26:41
Speaker 2: No, wait a minute. We were the first to have
26:43
Speaker 2: deli potato salad with the pickles in it.
26:45
Speaker 3: Well, you did not say that.
26:46
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. Yes, I did.
26:48
Speaker 4: Uh-uh.
26:49
Speaker 2: Pickles and olives. So you were not the first. I was.
26:54
Speaker 3: No, you were.
26:55
Speaker 2: Secondly, huh?
26:55
Speaker 3: It's probably somebody else, but you were talking about basic
26:58
Speaker 3: potato salad.
27:00
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dan. No, I was talking about.
27:01
Speaker 1: You never said anything about having pickles and olives in
27:04
Speaker 1: it and it being from a deli.
27:05
Speaker 2: You're lying now, Phil, to suck up to your listeners.
27:08
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I know I remember what the lady said.
27:10
Speaker 1: The lady, she's right. You said you were the first
27:12
Speaker 1: guys to serve potato salad.
27:13
Speaker 2: That's correct.
27:13
Speaker 1: You also say you were the first guys to have
27:16
Speaker 1: a barbecue in the backyard on Labor Day.
27:19
Speaker 2: And nothing Marianne has said has proven she had a
27:22
Speaker 2: barbecue in the backyard on Labor Day. Maybe Memorial Day
27:25
Speaker 2: on the 4th of July.
27:25
Speaker 3: What do you mean I didn't have a... I had
27:27
Speaker 3: fireworks on the 4th.
27:28
Speaker 2: Of July in front of my house on the block. Yes,
27:30
Speaker 2: that's not Labor Day.
27:31
Speaker 3: The neighbors all did that. I had to be.
27:32
Speaker 2: That's not Labor Day. That's the Fourth of July.
27:34
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm telling you, I'm going through each holiday,
27:37
Speaker 3: and I had Labor Day back in 1963 when we
27:39
Speaker 3: first bought the house in June of 1963.
27:41
Speaker 2: All right, if you remember so well, 1963, I remember
27:43
Speaker 2: the summer of 1963. If you remember so well, who
27:46
Speaker 2: did the Yankees lose four straight to in.
27:48
Speaker 4: The World Series?
27:49
Speaker 6: I'm not into sports.
27:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
27:51
Speaker 3: Honey, I'm not into sports.
27:52
Speaker 1: I remember if the Yankees lost four straight to the Dodgers.
27:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't know that. So I think your memory
27:58
Speaker 2: is sketchy.
27:59
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry about that, lady. I think you're avoiding
28:02
Speaker 3: the subject, and you just want to make an issue.
28:04
Speaker 1: All right, thank you.
28:04
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
28:05
Speaker 1: Marianne, thank you very much. Your leg hurts. Dorothy, you're
28:10
Speaker 1: on the Phil Henry Show.
28:11
Speaker 4: Hello.
28:11
Speaker 6: Hello, how are you doing?
28:12
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
28:13
Speaker 4: Good.
28:13
Speaker 6: Well, how dare Margaret tell me that I can't have
28:16
Speaker 6: a picnic or a barbecue or anything in my backyard
28:19
Speaker 6: on Labor Day?
28:22
Speaker 2: I invented the idea. All I'm doing is asking you
28:24
Speaker 2: to get permission from me.
28:26
Speaker 6: That's preposterous.
28:28
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm going to ask permission. I'm not
28:31
Speaker 2: saying you can't have it. I'm saying you get permission.
28:34
Speaker 6: You're going to be off your rocker. Everybody's going to
28:39
Speaker 6: ask you permission.
28:40
Speaker 2: My husband and I came up with a perfectly original
28:43
Speaker 2: idea of barbecuing in the backyard on Labor Day. using
28:45
Speaker 2: deli potato salad with pickles and olives, and you're going
28:49
Speaker 2: to steal that? Deli?
28:50
Speaker 6: You know, you couldn't even make your own potato salad?
28:53
Speaker 2: Oh, well, excuse me, Betty Crocker, but I have other
28:57
Speaker 2: jobs to do. Oh, you do, huh? Yeah, I'm a
28:59
Speaker 2: working woman.
29:00
Speaker 6: A working woman, huh?
29:01
Speaker 2: I have a newspaper column that I'm writing.
29:04
Speaker 1: So what is this Dorothy supposed to do?
29:06
Speaker 6: Is this a fiction column you write?
29:08
Speaker 2: This is... We were the first to have a backyard
29:11
Speaker 2: Labor Day barbecue with deli-style potato salad... which included pickles
29:15
Speaker 2: and olives and baked beans with bacon. And we were
29:18
Speaker 2: the first to use a checkered tablecloth. All of you people,
29:21
Speaker 2: you know, you can laugh all you want. You know something?
29:25
Speaker 2: You can laugh all you want.
29:26
Speaker 4: I hate you.
29:27
Speaker 2: I hate you.
29:27
Speaker 6: What color was this checkered tablecloth? What color?
29:30
Speaker 2: You know what? What color is your checkered tablecloth?
29:33
Speaker 4: Oh, well.
29:34
Speaker 2: I really think you're being petty.
29:35
Speaker 6: We used a sheet.
29:37
Speaker 2: And, Dorothy, I hate to shock you. It's red and white. Jesus.
29:40
Speaker 6: Red and white.
29:41
Speaker 2: You don't know what a checkered tablecloth looks like. I'm sorry.
29:44
Speaker 2: What do you propose? The checkered comes.
29:46
Speaker 6: In several different colors.
29:47
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It comes red and white. Red and white.
29:49
Speaker 4: All right.
29:50
Speaker 1: What are you proposing that this Dorothy do?
29:52
Speaker 4: 213-251-3189.
29:55
Speaker 2: Call me and get permission. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> No, there's.
29:59
Speaker 6: No way I will call and ask permission at all.
30:02
Speaker 3: There's no way.
30:02
Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you you're going to get a
30:03
Speaker 2: letter from my attorney.
30:05
Speaker 1: You want people to call and get permission for having
30:08
Speaker 1: a Labor Day barbecue from you. Is that what you're asking?
30:11
Speaker 2: Yes. Or they will be prone to prosecution.
30:16
Speaker 1: All right. I don't know how to say this to you, Margaret.
30:20
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a Labor Day barbecue. In my backyard.
30:23
Speaker 2: You see, Phil?
30:24
Speaker 1: But I will call and ask for permission. Is that good?
30:26
Speaker 6: That's all I'm asking.
30:28
Speaker 1: Great. Did you take that number down? So I don't
30:32
Speaker 1: have to get a call from her lawyer, which, by
30:34
Speaker 1: the way, is also her husband. And now more on
30:39
Speaker 1: The Phil Hendry Show. All right, I'm going to bring
30:41
Speaker 1: Donna on. Donna, are you there?
30:45
Speaker 4: Donna?
30:45
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, dear. Donna, you're a clinical psychologist. You heard
30:49
Speaker 1: the interview we had with Margaret Gray yesterday. Yes, and I...
30:52
Speaker 1: And you heard her responses to the people calling in.
30:55
Speaker 4: Yes, and at first I thought you're just playing a
30:58
Speaker 4: big joke and pulling our leg to have fun about this.
31:01
Speaker 4: But if you're not.
31:02
Speaker 1: Is your radio turned up in the background?
31:04
Speaker 4: Yes.
31:04
Speaker 1: We need to turn that down, please.
31:07
Speaker 2: Okay.
31:07
Speaker 4: If you're not just having fun and pulling our leg,
31:10
Speaker 4: I think it's unfair for you to keep a woman
31:12
Speaker 4: on the air who's mentally deranged.
31:15
Speaker 1: You say mentally deranged is a very strong characterization.
31:18
Speaker 7: It's so obvious.
31:19
Speaker 4: My goodness. I hate to have you keep her on there.
31:23
Speaker 1: When you say mentally deranged, have you got just a
31:26
Speaker 1: cursory diagnosis? I mean some kind of a, what would
31:30
Speaker 1: you call it, delusional?
31:32
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Absolutely. She's got a problem, and I don't hear
31:37
Speaker 4: enough to make a clinical diagnosis, but I hear enough
31:40
Speaker 4: to say that she is not in her right mind
31:42
Speaker 4: at the present time.
31:44
Speaker 1: In what way? Is she hallucinating?
31:46
Speaker 3: What?
31:47
Speaker 4: She's delusional to think that they started. I mean, that
31:51
Speaker 4: is so ridiculous, so outlandish.
31:53
Speaker 1: Well, she said that they started barbecues on Labor Day
31:57
Speaker 1: using a gas grill and deli potato salad.
32:01
Speaker 4: It gets worse all the time.
32:03
Speaker 1: Well, that's what she said anyway.
32:04
Speaker 4: All right. And my family has had barbecues since. I
32:08
Speaker 4: can remember back to 1940.
32:09
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to have her on the air
32:11
Speaker 1: because the lady doesn't want to talk to her. She
32:12
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to her.
32:13
Speaker 4: I don't want you to.
32:14
Speaker 1: Margaret, we don't want to talk to you, okay?
32:17
Speaker 2: No. She has called.
32:19
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
32:19
Speaker 2: First of all, she said that I'm delusional, which I
32:21
Speaker 2: think is wrong. I think it's terribly wrong. It's hurtful
32:24
Speaker 2: to me. I'm a mother and a wife.
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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry. And I really think you're taking advantage
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Speaker 4: of the woman by keeping her on the air.
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Speaker 2: You think I'm batty.
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Speaker 4: No, baddie's not the word at all. It's obvious that
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Speaker 4: you're having a problem, and I'm sorry for you, and
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Speaker 4: I hope you get some help, and please don't stay
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Speaker 4: on the radio.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's Margaret Sheep.
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Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, in other words, because
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Speaker 2: I want to take credit for something my family sweated
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Speaker 2: for and worked hard for.
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Speaker 4: I'm nuts. Honey, Margaret, no, families have done this for,
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Speaker 4: my gosh, I'm 68 years old. My family has done
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Speaker 4: this since I was a child, and everybody I know
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Speaker 4: has done it. You know, the idea that you believe
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Speaker 4: this is obvious that you're having a problem. And I'm sorry,
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Speaker 4: and I wish you would get some help.
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Speaker 2: Well, I work hard.
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Speaker 4: I know you do.
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Speaker 2: I'm simply saying the Labor Day barbecue.
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Speaker 4: Well, I know, but as I said, all our families
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Speaker 4: had that, and I can remember back in the 40s.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't know.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think you did.
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Speaker 1: You probably didn't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, what do you suggest I do?
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Speaker 4: Get some help. Get some help. Don't torture yourself like this,
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Speaker 4: and please don't keep her on the air.
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Speaker 2: It took years of planning to put the very first
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Speaker 2: Labor Day barbecue together. Now you're telling me I didn't
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Speaker 2: invent it.
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Speaker 1: What does she need, Dorothy? Or Donna, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: Some mental health help. I didn't invent it.
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Speaker 1: You didn't invent it, Margaret, no.
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Speaker 4: Some mental health help. I mean, you're seeing, aren't you? Phil,
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Speaker 4: aren't you seeing this?
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's, she, am I saying this?
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Speaker 4: Seeing it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been up for an hour,
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Speaker 1: for a solid hour. I've been trying to.
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Speaker 2: In other words, what you're doing is you're messing with me.
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Speaker 1: I'm not messing with.
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Speaker 4: You cannot change somebody's delusional system.
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Speaker 2: She thinks I'm nuts.
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Speaker 1: Okay, look. I tell you what, I've got her. All right,
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Speaker 1: so we'll get her some clinical help.
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Speaker 3: Yes, please.
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Speaker 1: I mean, thank you.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: What, am I supposed to pay for the therapy, too?
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Speaker 1: All right, that was Donna. She is a clinical psychologist.
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Speaker 1: She believes Margaret is nuts. Belongs in a nut bin.
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Speaker 1: And you can tell Margaret, by the way, that her
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Speaker 1: dog hasn't been to the moon either, which she apparently believes.
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