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Dirty Rush: Rush Rules - Winter Recruitment is On · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority life with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy.
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  Speaker 2: Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Dirty Rush.
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  Speaker 4: We're continuing our conversation with influencers who lived the sorority
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  Speaker 4: experience firsthand, bringing down what rush was really like, the
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  Speaker 4: moments that surprised them the most, and what they wish
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  Speaker 4: they'd known going in.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Chloe, Hi, So where did you go to school?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 5: I went to Syracuse University?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, what sorority were you in?
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  Speaker 2: I was in stt Okay, fun, that was the sorority.
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  Speaker 2: When I was at Rutgers.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, they seem really cool, but like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So different, like every chapter is so different at every school.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. Oh that's great. So what was your
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  Speaker 2: Rush process?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 5: I was so nervous because I knew absolutely nothing about sororities,
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  Speaker 5: or especially sororities at Syracuse before going into Rush. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even know like what the sororities were, anything about
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  Speaker 5: it really, and the only research I did was like
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  Speaker 5: look on social media. So before going into RUSH, I
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  Speaker 5: had like kind of narrowed it down to like a
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  Speaker 5: few houses that you know, like looked cool online that
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  Speaker 5: I could like see myself in, but I went in
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  Speaker 5: like totally blind, and honestly, the process was pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Like I was so nervous, but it was like just
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  Speaker 5: talking to like like girls and friends and you know,
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  Speaker 5: having conversations.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Well, so I like went in like kind of knowing
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  Speaker 5: like what my top house was. Like literally the first
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  Speaker 5: day RUSH, I fell in love with this house and
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  Speaker 5: it totally switched by the end of.
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  Speaker 6: RUSH and I went a different house.
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  Speaker 5: But literally up until the last round, preference round, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, I'm going this house and then everything changed
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  Speaker 5: and there's like a lot that went into that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, like what was like the main reasons kind
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  Speaker 4: of that you did that? Like spitch you think.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So basically so I was obsessed with this.
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  Speaker 5: House and I was talking to I think it was
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  Speaker 5: like after preference round, I was honestly like totally conflicted.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know which house I wanted to go, and
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  Speaker 5: I was like talking to my friends, which they say,
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  Speaker 5: don't talk to your friends about it because it's your process,
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  Speaker 5: your decision. And one of my friends had told me
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  Speaker 5: that the one house that I like really wanted their
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  Speaker 5: nationals had told them that they only wanted me for
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  Speaker 5: my social media followers, Oh yeah, which was literally crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So going into school, how many followers did you have?
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  Speaker 5: I think I had around like three hundred thousand on
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  Speaker 5: TikTok okay, like around twenty thousand Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: But you still had a pretty you had a pretty
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  Speaker 1: big following on TikTok.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was more than like other girls that
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  Speaker 5: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, so people probably did know you going into
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  Speaker 1: like going into the rush process. I mean they also
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  Speaker 1: check your background, They look at absolutely everything, They know
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  Speaker 1: exactly who you are. And then were you also nervous
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  Speaker 1: that some sororities would want you also because of knowing
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  Speaker 1: your sister's following.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I was never worried about that. That's a great question,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't think that like ever came across my mind.
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  Speaker 5: But if anything, I thought that maybe would help. Like
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, that sounds horrible, but also like there
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  Speaker 5: was a my sister was in a sorority at a
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  Speaker 5: different school, and when I was rushing and talking to
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  Speaker 5: those girls, I was like, oh, like my sister was
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  Speaker 5: actually in the sorority.
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  Speaker 6: She loved it, and then they dropped.
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  Speaker 1: To me, Wow, and that's like not even allowed, Like,
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  Speaker 1: but I should have been able to have legacy going
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  Speaker 1: into that sorority because your sister was in it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't like love the conversations I was having anyways,
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  Speaker 5: but I was surprised.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that it would help.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, wow.
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  Speaker 1: So then yeah, so then you were talking to your friends,
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  Speaker 1: they told you that this one sorority was interested in
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  Speaker 1: your following.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so then how did that how did you navigate
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  Speaker 2: the rest of that experience?
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  Speaker 5: Well, there was also so there was that. And then
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  Speaker 5: also during my preference round, I had spoken to this
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  Speaker 5: girl who I absolutely fell in love with, like I
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  Speaker 5: was obsessed with her. I saw her as like she
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  Speaker 5: could be like a true sister to me, Like I
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  Speaker 5: really looked up to her, and she just a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the girls that I spoke to at the house
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  Speaker 5: that I ended up going just seemed a lot more
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  Speaker 5: genuine and real to me. And like, reflecting back, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, honestly, like, I don't I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: go a house where I feel like I have to
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  Speaker 5: put on a face for them, Like I want to
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  Speaker 5: go where I feel comfortable and a lot of my
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  Speaker 5: decision came into like I want to see this girl
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  Speaker 5: on mid day because I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed
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  Speaker 5: with these other girls that I spoke to. And also
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  Speaker 5: obviously I don't want to go a house that would
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  Speaker 5: say that, like that's that's disgusting, that's horrible.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want.
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  Speaker 6: Anything to do with that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, did you meet a lot of girls that were
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  Speaker 4: like in that sorority throughout your like college time.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't really friends with a lot of them, especially
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  Speaker 5: after I chose the other house. A lot of those
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  Speaker 5: girls were like really mean to me after, Like they
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  Speaker 5: would like see me out like the older girls, and
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  Speaker 5: they would like make faces or curse at me, Like literally, wow,
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  Speaker 5: crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't end up in that one though, I know,
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  Speaker 2: And that's bizarre. Literally, I mean clearly they were just
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  Speaker 2: salty because you picked the other house, But to also
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  Speaker 2: act like that, it's like, grow up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank god I made the right decision, made.
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  Speaker 2: The right decision.
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  Speaker 1: And also like they're very aware of how sorority rush works.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing about frown, where you have
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  Speaker 1: your top two houses and you make a decision, so
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  Speaker 1: it's a fifty to fifty chance that she's not going
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  Speaker 1: to go with you, and you just need to just
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  Speaker 1: like it's a fifty to fifty chance that the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the girls that you're picking are not going to
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  Speaker 1: choose you.
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  Speaker 2: So that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, that happened.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the end of the.
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  Speaker 6: World, like to die over it.
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  Speaker 2: Were you in SDT all four years? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: I was, and I loved it involved. Yeah, I knew
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  Speaker 5: that I wanted to be involved like from the beginning
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  Speaker 5: just because I don't know, I always loved like kind
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  Speaker 5: of being a leader in those types of settings. So
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  Speaker 5: I did. I was the rush chair twice my sophomore
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  Speaker 5: year and then my senior year. And I also like
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  Speaker 5: did the social media. Yeah, so I know, I know
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  Speaker 5: all of the all of the inside scoop and being
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  Speaker 5: a rush share.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what can you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: What is a misconception about rush?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Was there anything that like shocked you when you were
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  Speaker 4: rush shair?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, like basically you know, like every single girl before
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  Speaker 5: they come into the house, like you, like we had
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  Speaker 5: like all the houses had lists of all the girls
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  Speaker 5: like with a picture their hometown, who they're friends with.
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  Speaker 2: They're literally doing a background check on you.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and it felt wrong, but like it was
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  Speaker 5: also fun.
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  Speaker 1: Like like it was like, Okay, I'm getting all the
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  Speaker 1: tea before they're even walking in.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of like we we had to pair
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  Speaker 5: up each girl individually with a girl in our house,
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  Speaker 5: so we'd have to like figure out who would vibe
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  Speaker 5: with who based on literally pictures, which is awful, but
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of how it works. And obviously you're not
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  Speaker 5: supposed to like pair up girls together. It's supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be random, but like most of the houses do it
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  Speaker 5: that way.
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  Speaker 2: Did you also gauge your audience into sorority life once
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  Speaker 2: you got to school? Kind of?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like when I got into a sorority, I
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  Speaker 5: like wasn't really posting that much because there's so many
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  Speaker 5: rules and you have to be careful of like what
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  Speaker 5: you post. And that's something that I didn't love about
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  Speaker 5: being in a sorority at first, because like you couldn't
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  Speaker 5: post certain things, you couldn't say certain things, and so
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  Speaker 5: I kind of had to keep a lot of it
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  Speaker 5: like private. But I don't no, I didn't really speak
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  Speaker 5: on social media about like soarty life until honestly, I
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  Speaker 5: graduated because I felt more like free and like.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and you were also on like the
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  Speaker 1: EC committee, like you had like you were on EXAC,
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  Speaker 1: you had roles in your sorority. So it's not like
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  Speaker 1: you wanted. You probably did never want, wanted to say
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  Speaker 1: the wrong thing. But now that you're graduated, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm free.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I didn't want people and other sorties to
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  Speaker 5: like talk about about me or hate me for saying
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  Speaker 5: these things. Yeah, but now I'm free and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, like it.
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  Speaker 2: Was just a soorty, it was just a sorority. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But did you leave with friends that you still have today?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, of course, I have so many friends in my sorority.
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  Speaker 6: I love.
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  Speaker 5: I still keep in contact with all the older girls,
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  Speaker 5: all the younger girls, And that is my favorite thing
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  Speaker 5: about being an assorty, like all the people that you meet,
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  Speaker 5: and I love being able to have older friends and
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  Speaker 5: younger friends. And also like with Swarty fans, you get
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  Speaker 5: super close with them. And also half of my so
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  Speaker 5: my friend group now literally my friend group is the
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  Speaker 5: same from a freshman year of.
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  Speaker 6: College to now.
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  Speaker 5: It's ten of us, five of us went at one
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  Speaker 5: house and the other five one another house, and we're
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  Speaker 5: still all like best friends.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly how mine was.
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  Speaker 2: Really Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And everybody warns you like your friends will change,
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  Speaker 5: which is usually true, but surprisingly we all stay together.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Chloe, thank you so much for coming on and
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  Speaker 1: telling your story on Dirty Rush.
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  Speaker 6: Hey Chloe, Hi, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good, I'm good. I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for thinking of me.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us where'd you go to school?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: So already did you end up in? Okay?
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  Speaker 6: So Syracuse A five very classic Jewish girl from New
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  Speaker 6: York went to Syracuse the Jewish Sorority.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. And you have a podcast, right,
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 6: It's called We Met at Summer Camp. I co hosted
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  Speaker 6: actually with my best friend who I met at sleep
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  Speaker 6: Boy camp and also she went to Syracuse, so we
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  Speaker 6: were like camp and college.
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  Speaker 5: So we have a lot to talk about. And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we're hoping to start our.
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  Speaker 6: Second season at the end of the month, so I'm
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  Speaker 6: really excited.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing And that's so cute that you get to
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  Speaker 1: do with your best friend.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably so fun.
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  Speaker 6: It's so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Did you graduate already?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm twenty four, So I graduated from Syracuse in
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  Speaker 6: twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: Okay wait same yeah, yeah, same. We're the same age, right.
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  Speaker 6: I've stalked to you a little bit, we have.
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  Speaker 3: Talk.
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  Speaker 6: We're the same age.
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  Speaker 4: That's so fun. And then on TikTok, you do like
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  Speaker 4: some recruitment guides and yess right.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, So I've spoken a lot at different universities, like
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  Speaker 6: different hellales and student centers. So actually eighty five, like
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  Speaker 6: my sorority the national Instagram, I guess had reached out
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  Speaker 6: about doing a recruitment guide, so I kind of workshops
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  Speaker 6: my recruitment guide. And I also have gained a lot
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  Speaker 6: of traction on TikTok and Instagram for doing like rush
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  Speaker 6: bag guides and you know what to wear for each
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  Speaker 6: round guides. And I really liked doing it because I
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  Speaker 6: think like when I rushed, I wouldn't have considered myself
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  Speaker 6: like one of the cooler girls in the grade. Like
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  Speaker 6: I was a theater kid. I was a theater major
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  Speaker 6: in my freshman year. I did switch after freshman year,
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  Speaker 6: but like I came in there being like yeah, like
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  Speaker 6: studying drama, and I love broad Like I wasn't like
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  Speaker 6: a cool girl by any means. And I also like
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  Speaker 6: I was in the sorority, but I wasn't the most
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  Speaker 6: hyper involved person. I wasn't, you know, so obsessed with it.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't my identity that said. I was always incredibly
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  Speaker 6: observant and I loved my friends, and I was always thinking, like,
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  Speaker 6: how can I help girls make joining a sorority the
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  Speaker 6: most positive experience possible? And I've noticed that like a
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  Speaker 6: lot of my following is like, you know, girls in
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  Speaker 6: their late teens and early twenties who like this content.
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  Speaker 6: And if I had had TikTok, because I rushed January
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  Speaker 6: of twenty twenty when TikTok was like kind of first
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  Speaker 6: becoming popular, and I was like, if I had had
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  Speaker 6: like older girls doing recruitment guides, like I would have slayed.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't have been nervous, I wouldn't worn Bretts in
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  Speaker 6: my hair.
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  Speaker 2: No, you did it.
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  Speaker 6: So I was like, you know what, I would have
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  Speaker 6: loved to have this, But yeah, I do a lot
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  Speaker 6: of recruitment guides. It's really fun.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, that's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So like it's like the dos and don'ts, like what
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  Speaker 1: to wear and during recruitment, what to not wear, what
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  Speaker 1: to expect during rush, like exactly, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's amazing to kind of do some like sketch parodies
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  Speaker 6: of like the worst girls you'll meet during rush or
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  Speaker 6: oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: You're still bringing that theater kid out with these.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I initially like went viral from doing like pov
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  Speaker 6: comedy content. I definitely bring out the theater kid from
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  Speaker 6: time to time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I love that. That's amazing. But then, so, how
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  Speaker 1: was your rush experience? Like, yes, you ended up in
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  Speaker 1: Alpha FE and it was great, But how was that
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  Speaker 1: experience for you? Because I know you're saying you went
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  Speaker 1: into rush brush with barettes in your.
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  Speaker 2: Hair, Like did you ever feel judged or was the
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  Speaker 2: experience actually really positive for you?
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  Speaker 6: So it was a fine not Alpha FE and they're.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, it's okay, I'm sorry, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, it's totally fine. Well, they're just they're
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  Speaker 6: two different houses. Yeah. I definitely, like again, lacked a
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  Speaker 6: certain level of confidence when I was a freshman in college.
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  Speaker 6: I was definitely still a little bit like awkward and
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  Speaker 6: hadn't come into myself yet, which you don't see on
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  Speaker 6: social media at all. Girls who are freshmen like not
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  Speaker 6: fully being like confident in knowing who they are. Yet
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  Speaker 6: like I really didn't I knew going in that I
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  Speaker 6: think I wanted to be in more of a Jewish
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  Speaker 6: yeah already, I mean obviously, like they don't discriminate against
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  Speaker 6: people who aren't Jewish, but typically a fine stt are
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  Speaker 6: like founded on Jewish value and most of those houses
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  Speaker 6: end up being primarily Jewish. I would say, my mom
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  Speaker 6: was in a FI at Oneonta, so I knew I
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  Speaker 6: was like a legacy for that house, and it was
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  Speaker 6: just sort of a matter of like where I felt
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  Speaker 6: more at home. When I did rush. It was really scary.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know a single person going in because my
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  Speaker 6: freshman year I was a theater major, which was the
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  Speaker 6: theater building was like a mile off campus. It was
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  Speaker 6: very isolating. It was literally like eight to five we
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  Speaker 6: were in the theater building. I was never on main campus,
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  Speaker 6: and these girls would ask me questions and I literally
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  Speaker 6: would not know the answers to them, and honestly that
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  Speaker 6: sparked me like wanting to change my major. I was
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  Speaker 6: like I am getting up at six am to like
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  Speaker 6: roll on the floor and like breathe and pretend to
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  Speaker 6: like become an elephant, like I don't even know. It
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  Speaker 6: was just the most bizarre, like if you're in a
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  Speaker 6: BFA acting rome, it's like a whole other thing. And
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  Speaker 6: I was like, maybe I want to be on main campus,
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  Speaker 6: Like maybe I want to understand what people are talking about,
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  Speaker 6: Like if you went to Syracuse you would know this.
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  Speaker 6: Like I didn't know what Varsity Pizza was my freshman year,
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  Speaker 6: which is like it's like the like pizza spot on
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  Speaker 6: Marshall Street, which is like that main strip. They were like,
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  Speaker 6: how do you not know what that is? And I
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  Speaker 6: was like, I only know the theater building, like you know.
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  Speaker 6: So I definitely had a sense of uncomfortability because I
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  Speaker 6: literally didn't know anything. I felt like all of these
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  Speaker 6: girls knew each other or were going in with friends,
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  Speaker 6: and I didn't. I went in with no one. I
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  Speaker 6: went in like completely alone, and whether they really were
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  Speaker 6: confident or not, everyone seemed so much more confident than
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  Speaker 6: I did, especially I feel like because they knew people already,
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  Speaker 6: Like I, Yeah, I wound up choosing a five just
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  Speaker 6: because I I just vibed with the girls a lot
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  Speaker 6: more than I did in any of the other houses. Also,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: I you know, the positive vibe of my mom having
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: been in the house. I think it was good. And
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: even though I was very happy with the bid I received,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I still felt really lost on mid day because I
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: didn't know anyone, and all of these girls knew each other.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: It was literally like they had accepted one like mega
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: friend group of like thirty girls where it was kind
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: of like, you know, two or three friend groups combined
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: into a bigger friend group, and then there were a
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: couple like random stragglers, and we were all like, hey,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: and my friend group now is comprised of those random
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: stragglers and we're still tight.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, any tips for girls going into like recruitment this semester,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, like advice you would give them.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I always say one of my main things, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: this has nothing to do with the actual physical recruitment,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: but this is so important to me. Think about what's
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: going in your bag. You are going to be out
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: and on your feet all day. You're not gonna have
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: time to go back to your dorm and like change
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: or eat or anything.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: First of all, it's flu season. Bring some purel. You're
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: gonna be like shaking hands with all these people who
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: are like in a stuffy house meeting thousands of girls, Like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: bring some purel, bring some wet wipes. That's I narrowly
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: avoided the flu during rush, and that was huge. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: would say, yeah. Also bring like makeup, touch ups, perfume, deodorate,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: breath mints, change of socks, change of clothes if you
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: need it. Also bring like snacks and water just in
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: case you, you know, get fatigued. There are so many things.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: That's a more like surface tip. Obviously, I would say
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: just be yourself, because if you're trying to be cool,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: maybe you'll end up in an objectively like you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: more upper to your house, but you ultimately won't be happy. Yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: and you should value your happiness over like the ranking.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: I guess because like I think objectively when I had rushed,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: and I again, I don't really know how it is
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: like now or what had happened, but I think when
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: I rushed, like SDT was cooler than a five quote
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: unquote or mixed with better frats. But I didn't really
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: care so much about that. I was like, I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: I would be kind of uncomfortable.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were in that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's honestly so good that you know yourself
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that well. And then after going through that rush process
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and finding you know your home, is that when you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: started your tiktoks? Like when did your following come about?
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: I did not start my TikTok until after college. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: was really I had like randomly one viral video during COVID,
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: but I think everyone randomly had one viral video during COVID.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I had one video during COVID that got like three
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: million views, and since it was like that COVID era,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: that one video gave me like, you know, fifteen thousand followers,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: which is insane because that would never happen now. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: then I didn't post. I was just like I was embarrassed,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: like you know, and that was like I also wanted
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: the older girls and my stroorty to like think I
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: was cool, yeah, and so I didn't. I didn't post
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: very much. And then it was actually like a week
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: or two before I graduated. I was freaking out. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: didn't have a job lined up, I had no idea
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: what I was going to do, and I was like
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: thinking of all the things that I was good at,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: and I just started posting. I posted this one video
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: and it got like one hundred two hundred thousand views,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: and I was like, Okay, I feel like I can
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: I can get behind this, like I can start doing it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: And I started really fully posting like five six months
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: after I graduated, and I would go full throttle and
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: post like five times a day and really try to
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: get and at that time I did end up having
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: a different job and now I do it full time,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: but it it took. It definitely took a bit to
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: like grow the following and now I've been doing it
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: full time for about a year, which is really amazing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kllie, I'm glad you know, sorority life and all
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of the experiences helped you find your bit and you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: helped you really express yourself and obviously your podcast.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: But thank you so much for coming on Dirty Rush today.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Hi, Audrey, are y'all good? How are you welcome to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Dirty Rush? Good?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: So you went to the University of Texas, right, yes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I graduated in twenty twenty.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Four and what.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I was in Alpha Kai okay awesome. Yeah, how was
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: your like whole experience being in a sorority.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I loved being in a Sowartie.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: It made my college experience, especially going in from out
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: of state. I'm from California and then I went to
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: University of Texas and so that was a big thing
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: going through Rush, also being out of state, but also
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: finding the friends and home away from home kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: thing for sure.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Definitely switched up going from California to Texas.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I actually was born in Texas then did the high
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: school in California, so I wasn't completely blind to it all.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: But still say you say y'all.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like it's in California. Don't
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: say y'all unless you inherited that from going to ut Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: My parents are always they've been from the South, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I also picked it. I would have picked it up
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: from yout Honestly, I think y'all is a great word.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It's fun, it's fun, it's cute, charming.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But I mean, clearly you had a really great experience
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because now you have a recruiting coach business called the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Sorority Sister.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, so tell us about that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I started it. I've been on social media
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: for a while. I started posting YouTube videos in high
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: school and it's now my full time job. And so
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: through that content, I had been posting like social like
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Soorty content of living in the house and already kind
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: of giving Rush advice through that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So you kind of documented your whole experience of doing
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it when you were a freshman.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, so, like I have a full to vlog of
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: me going through Rush crying on camera, like all the
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: details my freshman year, which is also just so fun
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: for me to look back on.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Too, so fun to look back on stuff like that.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So then what made you really want to start this
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: recruiting coaching business?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So I wanted to have all of the advice and
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: everything in one so something different about the Soorty Sisters.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: We offer an online course, so it's videos for me
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: talking through everything, and it's way more accessible than one
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: on one coaching can be from a price point standpoint.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And so I wanted to make all of the information
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: more accessible and more like put together in one place
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: versus scrolling through all my videos and it kind of
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: being all over the place. And I have a partner, Kendall.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: She was in a sortia ole miss and so she
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: also came to me with this idea and we were
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the perfect pair, And I started it in twenty twenty three,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: right before my senior year of college, so we made
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the course at that point. Also, my younger sister was
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: going through Rush, and so it was on the top
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: of my head of like being that older sister figure
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: from my sister, and also like, how can I help
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: girls who don't have that older sister, who don't have
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the experience knowing about what rush is.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's so cool.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: How many girls do you have, Like, is it like
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: usually like per rush that you work with.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we started in twenty twenty three and then
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that was when we were kind of only doing We
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: have two different courses. We have a pre Rush Prep
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Club course, which talks about all the before things, so
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like your resume registration, all the things that you're kind
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: of doing in the summer and how to prep for that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: And then the Rush week course where it talks about
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: what actually happens in those houses, what you should talk about,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: how to prepare yourself for, like how to make this
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: decision of what sorority to go to. And then it
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: last last year in twenty twenty five, we started doing
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: one on one clients. So we've kind of grown and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: still our main focus is the course clients, and we've
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: grown throughout the years and each year new girls go
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: through Rush, which is so exciting, Like I love now
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the girls that are going to Rush in fall twenty
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: twenty six are starting to get into colleges and already
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: starting to reach out and thinking about Rush, which I
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: love because I think starting earlier just helps you feel
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: more confident and prepared going into Rush in fall.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest takeaway of your courses?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I think we really focus on what you want and
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: feeling confident in yourself. So going in to Rush with
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the goal of finding your forever friends because that's what
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I found in a sorority, and I think that it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: more than just going the top house or going what
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: you're maybe want you wants you to go. It's more
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: about where are you going to find your best friends
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: and the people that like you want to spend college with.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And so we really think about in the course, like
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: what are you looking for in a friend? What kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: of friend are you? What do you want out of
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: this sorty experience? And then Taylor that to how do
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: you show these girls during Rush what your qualities are
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and what you want to find that good match.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. So it's more so of like
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: about what's on the inside. That's what's not what's on
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the outside.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean we talk about the outfits and
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: what to say because that's what RUSH is. And it's
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: almost kind of like I think of it too as
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: an interview process if you want to be prepared going
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: into an interview, and RUSH can be so overwhelming that
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: just having more knowledge and information about it and kind
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of prepping what you want to say about yourself and
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: talk to just really helps going in confidently and will
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: help you more yourself in this like crazy situation that
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: RUSH is.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: You know, that's so fun. And so your friend Kendall,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: right that you do? And how did you guys meet?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: So I actually met her, she was my I met
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: her through my internship that I had. She was my
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: internship like kind of mentor and met her through that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And she's the CMO of a company, so she has
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: all the marketing brains and so we're the perfect pair.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And I think that she also brings another perspective of
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: kind of what Russia used to be and all of
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: the traditional southern things that you look for. She was
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: recruitment counselor at her Soarty years ago, and so she
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: kind of knows the ins and outs of behind the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: scenes when I bring in the newer perspective of what
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: girls are looking for on social media and like in
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: these new times.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Did you go through rush coaching yourself?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: No? I didn't, so I I went in. I mean,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: my mom was an Ausrity. I knew I wanted to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: be an Ausrity. I had known, like my cousin and
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: one of my other older friends had gone through rush,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: but very I knew very minimal information. And I always
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: say I rushed in twenty twenty, so it was virtually
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and I always say I'm so glad that it was
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: virtual because I would have not been prepared to rush
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: in person at a school like Texas, but I didn't.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who have rush coaching,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: and it's very common, especially at the kind of school
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that I go to, But now I didn't have a
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: rush coach myself.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Where do you hope to take your company in the future.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I really want to this year bring the course more
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: in person and talking to girls in person, because right
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: now it's very virtual in me just filming videos and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: them watching, but I love when I get to interact
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: with the girls going through rush. I got to last
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: year ago to University of Georgia and University of Flo
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: during their rush, and that is really my favorite part,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: is connecting in person and so really bringing the course
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: to life in person where your mom can come with you,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: mother daughters and you can kind of network and also
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: just ask questions and be more in an in person
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: environment and learning from that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: So then you're there like on campus while they're going
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: through recruitment.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also I would like to I mean, really
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the prep works before rush happens, but I did go
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to a couple of schools last year and just kind
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: of talked to girls as they went through rush.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They needed like that extra support kind of.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at that point, it's just kind of encouragement, like
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the sortie sister. We really focus on prepping you before
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: you show up on that day. But it's fun to
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: be that like face of encouragement kind.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Of thing, definitely, and to be like a part of
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that too.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. It's so fun, especially at the bigger schools,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: just seeing all the girls going into the houses again,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: like I rush virtually and then during school when you
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: are a swarty girl, you're locked in the house like
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you don't get to see the p and ms outside
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: until they come and talk to you. So it's fun
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: fully being like on the outside of it and seeing
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: all everyone.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Well, Audrey, thank you so much and best of luck
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: with your company, the sorority sister and I hope in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: person is in your near future.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: But thank you for coming on Dirty Rush.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys, thank you.