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Ep 206 - Mid-Season Grades! · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag no music no intro we are back with another episode of these Saints Blood Party podcast coming at you present it by precious works LLC is the by week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No Saints football this weekend the Saints going to their buy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: during week 11 sitting at 2 and 8, but just because it's the Saints by week, doesn't mean that we stop riding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the first time that we've done this on the pod and we'll get into it, but our theme for this pod is to do an SPP midseason report car slash grades
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before he can do all that, Adam here joined by my dude, Wolf aka Ryan, was on to the temperature checks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wayne said they can't hurt us this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This they don't or me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, I don't think really, but it's straight peace this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's bliss, bliss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get into the grades and everything, I wanted to
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[SPEAKER_01]: briefly talk about the appearance like St. and Pelican's owner Gilbinson added on WTO two days ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any good tidbits?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan, the saints are 28.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Pelicans as of tonight just fell to 29.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not one thing regarding either sporting franchise was thought to be about and I don't know how long the interview was 17 minutes Tell me talk about 17 minutes and not the product of either sporting team was not brought up once not once most powerful woman in sports
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rich is a person in the state of Louisiana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all about the product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Prado, struggling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And has been struggling for a quite a while, both franchises.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, mom's the word, and we didn't even talk about, or the Dennis Lucia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was before the Panthers game from the career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's the thing with one and eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what nobody's saying, but the response that that video got is the reason she did that interview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was book beforehand, could be possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the theory, that's the theory I'm rolling with because he got flamed just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: me just the president of both franchises at like a gala, honoring him for like the whole of fame of the Weez and the Sports, I don't know, some shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just only had a big jolly all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like somebody, I forget, I think it was Fletcher, whoever has the place, you know, what do you, that's just to change, you know, going through it right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pleasure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, fans are struggling right now, you like, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The message is, you know, stick by his man, we build some nice buildings, champions square getting renovated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we got, this is our leadership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is our leadership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now disconnect people, disconnect,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is probably because obviously, who knows, but there's, it feels like the Saints and the Pelicans and just Louisiana just feels like Murdaki, bra, just like some southern, just bra.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, there's some southern, just southern tail, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, like a TV show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bra.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like Dallas, but like two thousand five version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so, just how, on a, like, so unaware of self-aware of everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything, in terms of just as an owner, when you are doing an interview on a radio, in your city, and you don't talk about the things that the fans who pay money, that they're by, make you even more wealthy,
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[SPEAKER_01]: has been a failing product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a failing product for the last couple of seasons for both franchises, just completely over the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I said that with a couple of episodes ago, is that the true change will happen when vans just stop spinning their money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's when change happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like, oh, they're not paying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the pocket books are being affected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That gets the message out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just like, on the rate that I'm not talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing, like nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing was to 28, they'd say a single thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pelicans, they feel like, why y'all chirping?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Must go on out there, like, let's just not say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The players out there, like, where you're going?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Druce had visiting fans showing up in droves through the domain while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way they see it they're like shit as long as they were seasoned tickets that were sold to the business in the fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All those chicks clear, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we wanted to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to be that cynical, but you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What feels like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not even that's what it feels like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's literally what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting that Lumus kinda is always kind of talked about wanting to not, and this is not about like a fire killing thing, but just kind of like wanting to be like those those organizations like the students and the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, does he not realize how many coaches the giants have had to fire since you are
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's this call friend who it is cool about I mean like and he's the coach Look they haven't been good for you know a decade, but I mean searching one of John Meryl He's invested like he cares about the product on the field, you know, saying it discuss him
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Truly, they just look like crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's truly, truly disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like does he make the right calls?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The higher the stuff I don't, I ain't saying all that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even like, as terrible as the jet's ownership is, like, it drives him crazy, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He makes horrible decisions, horrible decisions and he's a terrible owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he'd feel like, okay, he's invested in the team, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know he got in, fuck with he Johnson for what he stands for and all that, but completely,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got the flag for, like, how he talked about Justin Fields before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would have been the bingles game when they had to go back to Justin feels when they're going to bench him but like in a way It's like he wanted he wanted to say it anything that was wrong about Justin feels at the time because It was like don't shit and he was speaking it as it's like a fan like as a fan would talk that's how a fan would talk You know and yeah me I like owners that are fans of their team like their fans of their team So they'll they'll talk to you like I actually like that, but I understand like
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't be torn, you didn't, you know, you took it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Quarterback under the bus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, brought it for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of shit, like, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can charge, they can charge, they can charge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got to go work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go work for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get good cuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go get good cuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My control over in the chat is that yellow is a real life version of the owner from the Indians from major league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, when I rifts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You never saw a major league, but it's probably a game, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's all a dig.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, just wanted to just talk about that really quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we did a fun, I wanted to do it a different way in terms of these report cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of give some updates for what's going to happen and what y'all can expect these next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, by week this week, so we're putting this episode out with the report card episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next week we're kind of back to our little regular schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the Falcons preview pod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've checked my schedule, but leaving that's going to be next Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we do have a special guest coming on next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be very draft focused draft central.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're going to be available to page up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what I've settled on is that that episode is going to be a Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a Patreon month for the guest that's coming on next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very draft heavy and it's draft and Saints and prospects for your thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aiming for next Thursday and when that was going to drop and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll kind of hit our regular schedule as, as you show them.com slash things black body man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark said, right now Ryan looks so
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, bro we've been I've been up in there watching Marvel movies all night Sounds like me, but I'm home in there my daughter just that You know the more or the office brothers one had to add the week and just wait for the, you know, I'm always angry moment
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, had to break out of it and talk about this team, but we wanted to do something different for
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[SPEAKER_01]: this episode because we've never done before and in terms of the grade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically how we broke it down is each position, except for Olin, I wasn't going to break it down by tackle center guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But each position and a grade that we felt, so we did it independently, and then we're going to talk about them for the midseason up to this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For this exercise, if you're listening,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, the way we kind of formulated it or formatted it is we thought about the play, we thought about draft like, you know, draft compensation in terms of where the player was draft player or players are drafted and contract or free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like for safety, like just and read in terms of his contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get into that right after this break, this should hopefully be a bit of a shorter episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to get to this wire this break as we hear a break from our sponsor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get into the grades right after this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to try to do something a little more fancy than just like a spreadsheet, but my job has been growing and this is what we got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: about what do you want to make it big?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there I can see, I also wanted to do like a reveal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we did each position by position, but that obviously is not going to work as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why did this independently and a Google share document of each position quarterback running back all of them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just doing this report card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What stood out to you as you were filling out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The greats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like damn, man, like, how feel great about like no position, like great?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All like even like really good, like, oh man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least this position group being settled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, no, one group, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not single one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I originally had quarterback as a seed plus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've given the rationale behind that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we talked about it a little bit last week and talking about Kenlon Moore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, for the play that Rattler had, it is decent to good games and it's early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very early because he only started two games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the early returns on Tyler's shirt
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[SPEAKER_01]: from a fifth round quarterback and then even though he was drafted high, it's still a second round pick at quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they're like a C compared to like the league, but like just they're play for killing and now we'll get into like the head coach grade as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's impressive, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had I had to have the C plus and then I I changed it, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: For that to be like not a glaring like orange or red, threatening what they had come in into the season, is a really big win for the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how it plays out in the future, just for like this season, is a win for the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like at no point this year, have to really felt like the quarterback play has been the detrimental aspect to the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know say like this is this is what's holding the team back it's the quarterback position not saying that it's the reason like they should be great but it's like you'd never just put a most of the games this season you never felt like that was the main issue you know saying so I think just that going into the season with you know a second year fifth round
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you got out of the quarterback position is like it's a it's a seat like it's a see I have a seat My it's all the reason I want the man is it's because it's just the lack of points like just the lack of that fair
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just, obviously there's a lot of no one's there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just the QB, it's the offense, it's the echo, just, it's the skill, all that goes into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I was looking, I was like down, Sean Payton got 21 touchdowns out of Bull Nick's so far this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 21 touchdowns, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, pass him over there and he's playing like shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing like ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but he's able to get like the scoring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like, run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: scheming and, you know, just cooking it up, you know, I'm saying, so that's why I just got the minus in there, just from the lack of score, you know, I'm saying the lack of points being put up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But from that, from other than that, man is like, what he's been able to do has been in person, you know, it has been from the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want this, this is a little segue, talk about this in our discord and then you tweeted about it, I think it was just today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: continual like rattler and chucked a bit like can't get why are they still going on like why are they still going on the point I made in our discord yesterday or maybe two days ago was As things fans If if this is how it ends up if they were able to land a
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[SPEAKER_01]: decent to good starting quarterback at pick 40 or even a big quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say shook isn't more than a bridge quarterback, but it can start a season or two for the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with Rattler, if he is, if his ceiling is back up quarterback, that at times can come and get you some spot starts, what have you as a fifth round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As an organization, that's a win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that is a win as an organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing that people missed with the whole thing regarding like the agenda was that all we wanted as fans was that whole that it wasn't even like Derek car it was Derek car but it was what Derek car was in it of his like the media authority that came with Derek car and the fact that he is he was we was and the contract that he was getting paid he was he was a very
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[SPEAKER_01]: mediocre baseline quarterback on a team that was a rebuilding team that was not going to win anytime soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the possibility that they could have gotten a steal that was going to be successful was the excitement for the agenda, even if it didn't and hasn't played out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that maybe Chuck is that person and Rattler is just a backup and they have two quarterbacks on their
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is there still infighting about it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally idiotic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes no fuck worse, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Complete civil war is happening online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Facebook, ex, Twitter, whatever, everywhere, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even when I've been in a post about it, like, bro, I won't tell you just chill with all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Under that post, people going to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's rather sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, man, it's like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't get with that type of analysis right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't say, like, I just can't get with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got to live in reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what it seems all right now, the cute people's decision is not in the bad spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is that a great spot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like, you know, where we have to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a franchise quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not a terrible spot either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got two young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It showed a little promise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you are rebuilding team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're spending pretty much nothing on quarterback outside
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[SPEAKER_00]: what we pay him car that we have to come for that we pay for him outside of that we pay him is pretty much nothing for quarterback for the next couple years like and you get like decent play like that that's the goal right there bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it makes my head hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It truly does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes my head hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to just add that note because it's I don't see it honestly because I probably like
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[SPEAKER_01]: for I just, I don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just had to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that stood out to me when during the exercise was how much orange is on the offensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only difference is you had running back as I see minus I had as a D plus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that tie is more into like offensive line and all that one have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on offense wolf, like, whoop!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it out, jipper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoop!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it out, jipper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's... Like, I mean, why we're seaver, like, I have a sea plushy, we have a sea, like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not...
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[SPEAKER_00]: obviously now with which she he going that's like one less talent and he was a talent you know saying so for sure have a lot of a he's a you know he's a good really good Robert why receive already want to call them a one or two whatever he's a good starting by receiver and then outside of that brother
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, damn, boy, it's rough out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when we see, like, we still let the wheel see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About to be week 12 after the by week 12, so about we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trip home, I was wondering about that earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, is he coming over or will he keep them on there?
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was a, like, a fourth season I are.
22:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he got the fourth season.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty sure.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's a sea, it's a sea, it is a strong sea, it break the cooks out there.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you get no talk, it's last because now I'll shit a tweet about to come hot.
23:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's too late, trade the last pass, not buddy.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: My buddy, you're stuck, you're stuck.
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: You've been arrested, that expat when they were out.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: When they were clear, I was like,
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we've talked about the Titan position.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You have it as a you had it as a D. I have it as a D plus just I don't know.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been a F. Honestly, like it's It's bad man.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad, but I couldn't go F because like July and Josh is what's going on?
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going on.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going on.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going on.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So it has the four most yards as a tighted in the league right now, which is wow, but then and then that's how I like that's how people who like only stat watch can like, they don't talk because when I say the title when I'm talking about Titan position, obviously it's not even counting for like Joann's like his gas like his fun bulls his drops all that, but also like the other part of the Titan position is Joann including Jack stole is like,
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: past blocking, run blocking, and there's a trotis, and trotis, a trotis man.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like at least unworkable way back in the day with Jimmy Graham, Jimmy Graham was so elite, you'd be like, I don't know, I'm kidding, Jimmy game, run blocking, man, what's going on?
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy, I was kept in like 12 or 13 touchdowns of season, like,
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an annoying thing that Kellen and I joked about it a little bit, but like Jack stole getting injured and not playing against the Panthers, like I felt like the blocking was a little bit better because like he wasn't in like, he wasn't in there bro, you know, I'm telling you the the best block and do what it had was for some role and what was the guy from Ravens,
25:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, him, those two together, like, were the best block and they weren't great, but they were like, like, they actually blocked.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they actually got out there and showed that he wanted to block.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like a big difference in the game.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the ring game.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a huge deal.
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It was noticeable.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It was noticeable, man.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like, to me, that's, like, tightens a D, O-line.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: almost let's see because Banks is playing so well.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Banks, Banks had me ride it from a D to a D plus bro.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the bank's push.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Because everything else just babe.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how is it?
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I just need to know answers.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, how you got, I don't know, Eric McCoy engine.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I know pennies not only to team anymore, which also factors into the grade, because that's like an admission that he was a starter.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's not even on the team.
26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: How you have four first routers in the second, Ralph Picca, the O-Lotted, the O-Lotted, an average D, between both of us, bro.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: How?
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: How?
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That dude got rid of Duns out there.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And we like, happy to see him.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, thank God, we're done, something.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Hoverty, bruh.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Hoverty.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, Caesar.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Caesar's not as ass as he has been.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's no more ass.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's not.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: This was like, this is like Caesar when he was like annoying Caesar.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, but not like, like, the Caesar that was playing like the first half of the Caesar was like, like, unlinked.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he, you couldn't, like,
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's reflected in his PFF degrees and the PFF grades are not like the Holy Grail, but like he was like 80s, 84 of 86 cards in the league.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, how is that like 50, 50 of 84, so that's the season we go.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's silent and played like he actually out on the take where he had some good pass blocks, still horrible in Rumpelack.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just not a good Rumpelack period.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's like, oh, that investment at all, that's a blind brand.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You still can't go in the next year feeling like, that's a position group we got figured up.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know you confident in a left tackle.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Right talk, you felt like you're a confident coming into the season, but with vlogging and injury history, that's a huge question mark.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's huge.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: At least want to have like a good, you know, back up with him, maybe it's at some rich arts, but you know,
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And then McCoy, this question mark with him because he's been injured a lot throughout his career.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, okay, do we want to keep investing in that or do we want to, it's love going on, yeah, right?
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, it's like we back to this again, man.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We go, he's going to season next year with Luke Fulton right to start in the center next in there.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hey, I know, and I, I'm trying to think recently of like,
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: like the good Mickey trades.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's the the Fultoner for set Saunders trade was a good trade.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Martian for third.
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: during the season was good, but the kind of that caveat that they could have got a second before the season, but it was a fine trade.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fine trade.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They traded in why he so had value to the commanders.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, what else is the last good Mickey trade?
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, those are two.
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is that mini?
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's way back, it's far, this is really a lot, man.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I know when they traded, uh, Jamal Brown to, uh, Oh, yeah, team at the time.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what they got.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Take it a second back.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good, it was, it was, I think it was a second.
29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that was like the, might have been the Jeff Duncan broke that.
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's how, that's how, like I'm a sickle for knowing that.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember I had tweeted about a couple of years ago.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, that's like the last thing that Jeff Duncan actually broke the same for later.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like newsworthy was like, that's right.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, it's, they, they got to figure out this offensive law situation.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's just every time you say that, it's just big, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: six years, almost six years, doing his goddamn pod, still talking about the goddamn O-line.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Still.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Defensively.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Defensively, just a general onset, just looking at us as annoying as the defense has been throughout the season, like, positional-wise, a breakdown is that they're,
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and I say that like a little strained.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They're okay.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Yeah, I probably greeted him a little too hard
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: based like if as if you look at like just the totality of them and not just parts I think done fine like not great fine but just want you to focus in on the actual parts is like I think you got some young players in there where you just kind of just like a equally great but um
31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like chasing young, I like he's doing, but you know, he's chasing young.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He just paints up bottom of the league and pressures man.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, bottom of the league.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bad.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like that's one of the, like I had DE, because my head had originally added a D for edge without thinking about, I kind of thought about the, the hot start that Granderson had in a kind of like,
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: good games at chase the pad and I was like, uh, it's a history history history history history history.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: lifting those grades and those positions, each is the rookies.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, to me, the cornerbacks getting elevated because the currency Riley, safety, I know you had it, not the best game against the Patriots, which were already didn't either, but Yana Sanker had to make a crap ton of plays early in the season.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, so the quarterback in the safety positions are like, that grade is higher because of the rookie play,
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, buddy, speak on it, bro, just feel like I was sort of, these niggas when it comes to sign in safety, it's like they should just stop and Marcus me, Marcus me, Jared, Jared's bird, um,
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Who doesn't want to forget it?
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh...
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Murdered Carolina?
33:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Carcola.
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just stop signing?
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Safety?
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: To-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's such a weird position, man.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very weird position.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't fit everywhere, you know, all the time.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just talking about it completely forgot Julie and Blackman was on the team, bro.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, show dead.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Completely forgot about that.
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Grand opening, Grand Clues, this whole week.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing well, too, man.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He was.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was one of those things, like, you know, we want to see the working in the way.
34:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's something to see them go like that, but still, it's like, okay, let's get the work in there.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's stuff, man.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But then like, then I keep going back, it's like, they don't get be a lot deep.
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The Patriot Day was like the work the worst came by far.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The worst one.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like they played his brand.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They want to play this like Ben, but don't put your eyes watch for somebody else.
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty two yesterday trying to get a feel for what's you growl it by way.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just hard for me to just kind of figure out what's.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Just what's going on schematically.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what?
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to sit in this office to sit with a Cody.
34:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And just like so he could just explain to me some of the things because it's like why why do this?
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's the big reason why I have a 10-yard cushion on 3rd floor.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's just like why.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And some of it's like some of it's not made of man is these weird zones.
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy drops in the cup of this zone and it's just a lot of stuff going on.
35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all for me to say to even judge really, you know, because like you're playing a 10-yard
35:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy just like stops catches the ball like, I mean, can I really bang the corner back for that?
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that that's not what that's what you've been told to do.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like if these, those of you've been told to do, I can't really bang them for that, you know, like it's so hard to really figure out.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like Chris and we're out of the way he's moving.
35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he got good instincts.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He does.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But the other than that, and a lot of tears on a tape man, like very hot and cold, he gonna give you some plays every night and then they're like, woo.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he gonna give you plays like versus the Rams, ways on a goal line is like, okay, well, what are you doing bro?
36:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what, what is the point of what you're doing?
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: What I when I shared that that ESPN article and he's like in the like the the fact that and again, I don't pocket watch like a lot of the professional NFL player get your get your brother and I usually say it's not my money when it comes to like with especially like with the Saints but like the fact that he might get 18 mil 18 mil 18 mil 18 mil 18
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They better have a plan, is all I'm saying.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Better have a plan.
36:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm curious.
36:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's a phredient next season.
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that guess that's about bills about in that range, let's see.
37:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right, I'm taking my like, you know, take this one year for one and a half million with the status, he can pay, right, I give it up on the, oh, I know, if it's not about the same thing, he can pay from somewhere else.
37:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, yes, but I know he is, man, he may look he's young, he got some couple splash, please, you know, he does make some physical, like, please, here and there.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: A big, you know, if you like a team, a particular type of defense will probably love him, you know what I'm saying?
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a particular type of defense.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if he's trying to think like, he's like a stealer type of player.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's interesting to hear like the teams that were interested in him.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I betrayed that line, so it was.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: the bears, it was the cults, and I also heard the commanders were interested, were interested in him before they got ravaged by injuries, and maybe like not in the only one picture.
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it'll be interesting to see how his contract situation plays out.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He's catching up on any questions, call me Eris, get ready to learn Tennessee, buddy.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And that Navi overheard make a plan for the age of cargo bro.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: D.A.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: submels.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else on either offensively defensively before we hit special teams in head coach.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Nah, that's it man.
38:54
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... special teams out of big fat f f f f you gave him a d minus they're like the worst special teams team rated by dve we're lucky that
39:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, groupie has not missed another field goal.
39:21
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the puncher, Kyle Crowger.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone said, grossy asked name on Sunday during the chat are during on Twitter when he shanked.
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Upon, I believe it was, collect, oh yeah, I say he was gonna shake.
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I call, I was like, he's about the shank.
39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Just called it, shank, she'll do.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like one of just shanked, shanked, shanked, shank for a FFFFFFFFFF.
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like, those, that's the little shit in his little, but like, special teams is so huge and the grand scheme of like winning the football game.
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is, it is, it is.
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it, you could argue that man has cost them a game or two, maybe, yeah, maybe.
40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of, I mean, especially, like, I mean, they would have lost that Seattle game for going to the West.
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it, like.
40:08
[SPEAKER_00]: There's special teams is what turned that game into when it was.
40:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a turn that into like just a slaughterhouse.
40:15
[SPEAKER_00]: All the reason I didn't give him like a demonizer, because Blake has improved a little bit to last couple of weeks.
40:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And you haven't seen as terrible of, I kick off coverage the last couple of weeks.
40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's all of that, I got it.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know it's good.
40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: All the reasons I have.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine, fine.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Lastly, head coach, I have my great for killing more midway through the season.
40:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I spent like 15 minutes thinking on that.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
40:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I originally had it a C and I knocked it down.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You have him as a D. I have him as a D plus.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I had him as a C minus, I think it was originally.
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: because of what he's been able to do with the quarterbacks, because it's
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: potentially looking like the minutia and the thing of his trait that separates him from his contemporaries is his ability to potentially develop quarterbacks.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's for someone like built quarterback with worth overall to go back, got there in the fifth round and part of things like when we've seen it, you know, but when you've seen him with, you know,
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I still ended up in a D just because Development to quarterbacks is really, really good and important game call like game calls and play calling on the game is important.
41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is such a small piece of being an actual head coach for a team and for like a CEO that the other things for me
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so lacking in so like bottom level that I couldn't go higher than a D or I got D plots, but you went D. Yeah, that's it was basically that man like I just thought about the things that I've really I really do like about them and that list is a short man like and don't be wrong.
42:25
[SPEAKER_00]: The quarterback thing is important.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I do like that.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He has kept
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of the mood in a good place, even though it's a dark season, but man, just a lot of other stuff, man, like the Lexi-Dasical Training Camp, the lack of institute and like a physical mentality in a team, even though that's like what you want, run game, game-day management,
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in a Russian being a loof in by himself on game day on a game day looking to loof by a self loss You know, 90s burger those things like That's what I just had to do a deeper.
43:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I like you got to fix those bro one way like where you got to go to Create coach college or something man like This ain't gonna cut it.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not gonna cut it, but
43:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'll learn maybe he'll learn some of those things.
43:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And the most important thing, if he could keep developing those quarterbacks and getting the most out of them, maybe the sparks of things and them that are, you know, that are turning the light.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And ultimately, like he's 20 data is a coach right now.
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I can't give you too much credit.
43:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you 28?
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, new ones, yes, team bad, all that.
43:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But you're 28.
43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the few positions that you go under equivocally judge on record, you know what I'm saying?
44:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
44:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's how I saw it as well.
44:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we both were in it very, very well.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to share, I'm going to share one more time because then I wanted to ask you this, just as all done.
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, sharing it one more time.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I want last question as we kind of wrap this up again.
44:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Saints have a top three pickin' the draft, top four pickin' the draft.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: A, and all, can we, before we even get into that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what, like when I say that the saints, when we talked about the saints of hats, poor self-scalining, these last four, five plus years, like this took us honestly,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like just first kind of like word dissociation, first grade, it kind of come to your mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you're really evaluating each position of the team, this is us being fair about the positions on the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We came up with this in about five to ten minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does this I know I know the question is I know the answer like yeah, of course they across they evaluate the positions each season out of a course they Of course they break down each each each positions all this but like is is that assessment is that breakdown Is it like Honest Right because I could almost go
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[SPEAKER_00]: what other teams create their plays as.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you know, like, every team has like, grades every area in the league and they have a board of has every team with their little number grade on it and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I wish the Saints could see other teams grades on their plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can just kind of get a dose of reality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to share it to you to say he's got high grades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, like the Niners are grading, like a healthy Fred Warner, like a non-right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then things like that grade is like, wait, but Pete Warner's an eight on our board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's just, you're like, no, that's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, no, people are about to be before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not an eight bro like what are you talking about people is eight like reevaluate and As much black and this this is more draft related, but as much black Sean, you know the lot of those me throwing shot Sean Payton's way He knew after A couple of drafts Ryan pace like man, this to the stale bro like our drafts a bit ass As kind of gotta get out of here come back to me Jeff
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[SPEAKER_01]: I value it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is not an attack on Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said like, I said the entire front office need to cleanse and brush needs a need to refresh this, just click cleanse that bitch out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone's hands is involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone's hands, Mickey's hands, Jeff, Jeff Ireland said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's fucking hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But an honest self evaluation with a seasoned ends, you break down the positions and you day, and you go, damn, we far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now to say with, you know, who knows what you have at quarterback and if this chuck is a guy or the guy, that changes a whole bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, okay, it does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we know he's the guy or a guy, how do we build around him or exactly?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Conversely, if you know that he's not the guy, it's like, okay, then how do we build this team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is what we see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what, so all that to say, you looking at this, your grades, my grades, you can put them with whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You top three, top four, five pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you eyeball in this draft?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's early, I know, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, quarterback aside, edge would be key.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because they have to get a better price question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't even get good second, even if you have like good secondary players, it's hard for them to shine when you have terrible payas rush.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think gotta get better there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's taken, you know, recent the first round, or bane, or whoever, you know, I'm not saying like, they should chase need just because they need edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the grades should be the head of player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's like a top three pick, it should be like a top three level player in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, but edge is like huge edge is huge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But just boot ship man, like get great players, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I've needs everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is no wrong answer of it might be the wrong answer, that's not all I have to I just don't want it F I don't want it I think edge
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[SPEAKER_01]: Edges sticks out to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, a fun to my dude, my dude, um, Jake, who has gotten some access to a lot of, um, all 22 film, and he was watching, came down to earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just saying Adam, he was like, Adam, this, he moved, he moved differently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Known Jake for a while just in his opinion he said he said cable downs is like like the one of one player like in this draft just in terms of his high moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's like, all right, you take cable downs and I do enjoy him as a prospect and I'm really warmed up to that deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then drafting him was like, put him at safety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got, you know, Taylor Donald's back there, but make Matthew Stafford in the pocket just make it pancakes, process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Still in the lot of love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like just chilling back there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's hard, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think, you know, you go with the blue chip player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't look, you can't fix it all in one draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just going to keep trying to attack and improve the past first from kind of way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, go to the later rounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you could find some times you can find good pass versus in a third round, you know, teams do it all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I could drop that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the last?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think it was, it was 300,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Five or three, hundreds of something, man, fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Junior go to let or something, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we found a big creek, found a big creek.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just got to do something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look what the Eagles just did, you know, just flipping the third round pick getting Jail and Phillips, you know, right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, myster game, it's got that immediately as like a monster game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are we there you go again, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes you might have do stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might have to make a tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, you know, obviously we had a point when we were trying to get draft picks now, but maybe after this draft, you could use 20 or 20, 27, third round pick to go get up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, to go trade for defensive in our edge player, once you get it, caliped downs in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to use all resources available to rebuild this team there completely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I'm, I was going to add from the, from the offense of perspective, the ball and just in regards to kind of just again, that article, ESPN plus article about the, the things to top eight top three against
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I won't tell fans right there's right now, uh, the saints are probably not going to have the free agency that you're expecting, just because you don't want to come here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just perish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't want to come here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Throw the cap out and go to the cap, not the new cap, but not a destination.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are two players on that list that I would, if they had one of these two, not both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of these two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I don't even know if they would leave their current team, uh, but out Pierce of the Colts, or Isaiah likely of the Ravens, either one of those players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who think what they say Alec Pierce for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause his thing though, man's like, if you Alec Pierce and you watch and Kelly North is like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, whether they just stay with, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they would say, they
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[SPEAKER_00]: They keep, you know, pleasures don't want to come play the song because they knew, okay, you know, CJ Spilly like, man, so I'm painting that Reggie Bush, yeah, Darren Spores, I can go to something down there, but if you're running back, it's like, man, you got to have a career running in the brick walls, you're like, I'm not going down there, but I'm going to get into my career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The crazy thing is like, Kelly, you're telling me, you're telling me, you mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kellen didn't get that bump with from free agents when he signed with the saint, but he had it with...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Court it like I heard like to our our the guy Jake who was at the combine for SPP talking to the office of players all the running backs in the draft every time he brought up killing more like their eyes lit up like, Oh, yeah, that was last year say quenancoli, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, this was a fun thought, a fun thought exercise for us to do, just go through this great great report cards for the team up to this point.
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