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October 6, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: Check out the original DG Designs at David Gardner's Jewelers
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  Speaker 1: 911 University Drive in front of audio video.
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  Speaker 2: You pay less, but you get much more at the
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  Speaker 2: Dollar Floor Store.
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  Speaker 3: Visit the Dollar Floor Store in Bryan for all your
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  Speaker 3: quality floors at discount prices. Get Mohawk brand vinyl glue
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  Speaker 3: down playing starting at just 49 cents a square foot.
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  Speaker 3: They keep the supplies you need in stock and installers
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  Speaker 3: are always welcome. Visit the big orange building just south
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  Speaker 3: of the bend on Texas Avenue in Bryan.
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  Speaker 1: You pay less, but you get much more. Great savings
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  Speaker 1: selection by Paymore. Shop at the Dollar Floor Store.
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  Speaker 4: A tall, handsome stranger rode into town with fire in
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  Speaker 4: his eyes burning red as sundown.
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  Speaker 1: His boots were all dusty. Hey, welcome back. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being with us on this Tuesday edition. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: it's felt like a Monday. It started rough. That's okay
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  Speaker 1: if you're just joining us. You're here for a really
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  Speaker 1: good hour. Lizzie is coming up for entertainment news and
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago, I got a chance to visit with
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Francione. He wrote a book about his life, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a terrific conversation. We're going to replay it today.
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  Speaker 1: We found out this morning, right after I got to work,
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  Speaker 1: that Coach Francione had lost a battle with cancer that
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  Speaker 1: had been going on close to 10 years ago. Coached
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  Speaker 1: A & M for five. Turned around programs at New Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: Really had success at Alabama before coming here. TCU. And
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  Speaker 1: won over 200 games in his coaching career. So let's
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  Speaker 1: hear the interview that I did with him a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago. Right now, we're going to jump out
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  Speaker 1: to the Polaris Fund Center phone line and visit with
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Franchoni. His book is called Tough Times Never Last,
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  Speaker 1: The Coach Fran Story. Coach, it's great to catch up.
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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling? How's your health right now?
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  Speaker 5: Well, my cancer's kind of in remission right now. I
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  Speaker 5: don't have any in my body. And so that's the
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  Speaker 5: big thing. And, you know, I've I've got various things
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  Speaker 5: to deal with, but all in all, I can't complain.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Are you still undergoing treatment?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be undergoing treatment for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I only did that for a year and a half,
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  Speaker 1: and I know what it felt like, so I kind
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  Speaker 1: of have a little bit of an idea of what
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  Speaker 1: you're dealing with.
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  Speaker 5: Well, fortunately, I don't have to do chemo. I do immunotherapy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And that hasn't had as many effects, maybe?
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  Speaker 5: No, not at all. I mean, I have no side
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  Speaker 5: effects really from it, and that's one reason she's kept
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  Speaker 5: me on it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I know you've had like two bouts with it,
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  Speaker 1: have you not?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've had three years of it. Okay. I got
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  Speaker 5: it all gone, and it was gone for a while,
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  Speaker 5: and then I got a little tumor in my arm,
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  Speaker 5: and then we took care of that with just radiation.
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  Speaker 5: And then I got a little tumor on my hip,
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  Speaker 5: and we took care of that with radiation. It wasn't
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  Speaker 5: very big. And so, you know, all in all, I've
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  Speaker 5: been blessed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a battle. Like I said, I wish I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know how you felt, but I'm afraid that I do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I've been free for 18 years, Coach,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm very thankful about that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's super.
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  Speaker 1: Did your daughter-in-law talk you into this, or is this
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  Speaker 1: something you had thought about doing for a while?
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  Speaker 5: No, I had thought about doing it, and I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do it for my grandkids. Sure. We didn't get
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  Speaker 5: to see a lot of games or really experience all
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  Speaker 5: the college coaching, and And so that's really why I
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  Speaker 5: did it. And the reason that I got her involved,
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  Speaker 5: she was a communications major in college. And when we
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  Speaker 5: first moved back to go to my doctor, we spent
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  Speaker 5: about four months in Wimberley, right across the street from them.
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  Speaker 5: So it was easy for her to just come over
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  Speaker 5: and we'd sit and do a chapter a day, maybe,
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  Speaker 5: or half a chapter, whatever it might be. And I would,
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  Speaker 5: I would talk and she would write and then she'd,
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  Speaker 5: she followed up with a lot of the players and coaches, um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, for the book and everything. So, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it was, uh, it took 20 months to do it. Um, but, uh, I,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it turned out, you know, pretty decent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I, I really enjoyed it. I learned so
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  Speaker 1: much about you and I, I promise we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to the really more fun stuff, but I, uh,
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  Speaker 1: having to deal with the death of your parents, that
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  Speaker 1: obviously changes anybody and affects anybody, and it certainly took
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  Speaker 1: its toll on you for a while, did it not?
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  Speaker 5: It sure did. You know, I always, I was a Christian.
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  Speaker 5: I believed in God, and I, but when that happened,
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  Speaker 5: it was like, you're such a great God. How did
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  Speaker 5: this happen? How did you let these kind of things happen?
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  Speaker 5: happened to us, and I was only 22 at the time,
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  Speaker 5: so I wasn't strong enough to process all this. Later on,
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  Speaker 5: Ken Horton, who was our team pastor at TCU, I
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  Speaker 5: got up enough guts to talk to him about it,
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  Speaker 5: and he helped me to put it to bed and
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  Speaker 5: reconcile and get my life going. going the direction it
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  Speaker 5: should be in regard to my faith.
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  Speaker 1: In your own words, you were pretty angry at God
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  Speaker 1: for about 20 years. Am I right about that?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you're right about that. I just could not digest.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Finally, one day, we were at TCU. We had practice,
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  Speaker 5: and there was a terrible shooting where people got killed.
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  Speaker 1: At one of the shopping malls.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember that. So that's when I started digging
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  Speaker 5: in with Ken. How did this happen, and how did
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  Speaker 5: mine happen? And, you know, there aren't great answers for suicide,
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  Speaker 5: but he gave me a comfort with it at least,
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  Speaker 5: and time helped me too. And my wife was a
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  Speaker 5: huge factor in all of that. Kim really let me
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  Speaker 5: be me, but also nudged me back toward the faith
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  Speaker 5: that I should have.
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  Speaker 1: And Coach Tommerdahl, I think you're right, played a fairly
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  Speaker 1: substantial role in that journey, did he not?
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  Speaker 5: He did. Mark is a great Christian, and he was
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  Speaker 5: somebody on the staff that once in a while I
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  Speaker 5: could go sit down with in a closed room and say, Mark,
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  Speaker 5: let's talk about this. I need help here. And he
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  Speaker 5: was just great. He always has been and always will
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  Speaker 5: be somebody I cherish.
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  Speaker 1: So how much have you leaned on that faith these
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  Speaker 1: last four or five years during this struggle?
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  Speaker 5: I bet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody's ever prepared, and as you know, to hear the words,
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  Speaker 5: you have cancer.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you're kind of stunned. And, you know, so
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  Speaker 5: when my first meeting with my oncologist happened, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know what to expect. I didn't know what she was
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  Speaker 5: going to tell me. And she spent two hours with
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  Speaker 5: me on Friday night from 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock,
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  Speaker 5: which I thought was amazing. And she stepped out for
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  Speaker 5: a minute and came. When she stepped out, I asked Kim.
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  Speaker 5: I said, she sounds pretty optimistic on this. And so
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  Speaker 5: she came back in, and I asked the doctor about
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  Speaker 5: sounding optimistic. She said, well, I am, and you should
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  Speaker 5: be too. And that's a statement that's... stuck with me
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  Speaker 5: through all of that. You know, one day she told me,
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  Speaker 5: she said, you know, like all of us, you're going
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  Speaker 5: to pass away, but you're not going to die from cancer.
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  Speaker 5: So that was, that was a pretty huge statement too.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's, uh, I had some of those and sometimes those
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  Speaker 1: are a little bit hard to believe, aren't they?
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  Speaker 5: They are. All of that is hard to believe. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: when I, uh, first started my immunotherapy, I had a
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  Speaker 5: little tumor on the back of my neck, kind of
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  Speaker 5: like your thumb sticking up a little bit. And a
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  Speaker 5: couple months in, it was gone. You know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: there anymore. And I asked her about it. She said,
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  Speaker 5: that's just your immunotherapy. How well your body's responding to it.
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  Speaker 5: And that was the first thing that made me think, okay,
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  Speaker 5: we can fight this.
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  Speaker 1: When you write quite a bit about your relationship with
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  Speaker 1: former President Bush in the book, and I know everybody
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  Speaker 1: that's come through here when he was here holds him
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  Speaker 1: in the highest regard. How would you describe him as
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  Speaker 1: just like a supporter of the program? when you were
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  Speaker 1: here and and the things that that you were able
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  Speaker 1: to to visit with him about.
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  Speaker 5: Well he was he was a great individual and um
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  Speaker 5: a lot of fun conversations with him kim sat in
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  Speaker 5: the box with him uh at games and uh you know,
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  Speaker 5: not every day you like a good Aggie, you kiss
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  Speaker 5: after a touchdown. And, uh, him and Barbara were just
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  Speaker 5: so much fun and we enjoyed them so much. He,
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  Speaker 5: and he was a good, good supporter and, um, you know,
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  Speaker 5: probably his best supporter if we lost a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: And you really, uh, respect those kinds of people a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And he would come to practice. Players love to see him. And, uh,
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  Speaker 5: I only saw him get serious one time when his
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  Speaker 5: son was dealing with 9-11 and everything, and I asked
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  Speaker 5: him how his son was doing. That was one time
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  Speaker 5: he really took a step back and talked without humor
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  Speaker 5: and very seriousness in his voice, and I felt for him.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of coaches, Fran, tell me that they remember
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  Speaker 1: the losses more than they do the wins. that the
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  Speaker 1: losses are lower than the wins are higher. Was that
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  Speaker 1: the case with you?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think certain losses, not all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I have a lot of wins that I cherish. Sure. But,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there's one that gets away that shouldn't have
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  Speaker 5: got away or one that eats at you. Probably the
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  Speaker 5: worst one I had, we were at TCU, and we
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  Speaker 5: were going to be the first BCS Bowl buster. We
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  Speaker 5: went 10-1. And we got upset late in the season
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  Speaker 5: at San Jose and that knocked us out of it.
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  Speaker 5: And that was, that was a tough loss. It would
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  Speaker 5: have been nice to be the first team to get
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  Speaker 5: into the BCS. It was not in a BCS conference.
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  Speaker 5: So I remember that one. I remember the sun bowl
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  Speaker 5: when we took BC to the sun bowl and won
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  Speaker 5: and we were a head dog. I mean, I, there's
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  Speaker 5: so many great games that I win or that I
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  Speaker 5: still remember that I love. And, But losses, they always
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  Speaker 5: stick with you, that's for sure. The tough ones.
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  Speaker 1: This week coming up, obviously, there's, I would say, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of excitement around here. Yeah, I bet. You
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  Speaker 1: were part of this rivalry while it was still going on.
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  Speaker 1: How did you describe it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's rivalries, and then there's... There's real rivalries,
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  Speaker 5: and A & M Texas is a deep-seated, real rivalry. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I do respect both the Longhorns and the Aggies in
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  Speaker 5: the fact that, for the most part, they keep it
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  Speaker 5: between the lines and things, where Auburn and Alabama, that
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  Speaker 5: baby there, that thing is 724-365. Yeah. If you moved
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  Speaker 5: to Alabama today, you would have to declare which one
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  Speaker 5: you are. Even if you were a Texas A &
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  Speaker 5: M Aggie, you would still have to declare. So the
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  Speaker 5: respect for the rivalry is good. It's healthy. It's a
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  Speaker 5: good rivalry. I'm sure there are a few people that
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  Speaker 5: go over the edge a little bit. But all in all,
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  Speaker 5: it's what a rivalry should be about.
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  Speaker 1: How– is it impossible to prepare– any coach for what
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  Speaker 1: he stepped into at Alabama. And I, I certainly know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what coach DeBoer is going through right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, it, I, I was fortunate. I had coached
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  Speaker 5: in the South of Tennessee tech and had gone down
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  Speaker 5: and visited some Southern schools in the spring. So I
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  Speaker 5: had a little idea what I was getting into, but
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  Speaker 5: there's no place quite like Alabama. It's, It's they love
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  Speaker 5: Alabama football or maybe Auburn football, but most of my Alabama, um,
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  Speaker 5: they expect to win a national championship every year. Um, they, if,
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  Speaker 5: if you lose the game early, it's like, Oh no,
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  Speaker 5: we might not win the national championship. The fact that you,
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  Speaker 5: you really don't, you can't go out in public. Um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you'll be signing autographs and taking pictures for
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  Speaker 5: the rest of the night. Um, you know, you just,
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  Speaker 5: your personal life, you have to leave town if you
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  Speaker 5: really want to, you know, go out and eat or
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  Speaker 5: do many things. So there was one restaurant in Birmingham
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  Speaker 5: that would kind of shelter us so we could have
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  Speaker 5: a nice dinner together. But I remember on our 25th
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  Speaker 5: wedding anniversary, I asked a restaurant downtown, and we were
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  Speaker 5: at a football campus in June, and I asked them
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  Speaker 5: if they could, you know, put us somewhere where we
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  Speaker 5: could enjoy our meal by ourselves. And And they did.
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  Speaker 5: They took good care of us. But most of the time,
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  Speaker 5: restaurants couldn't do that. You know, you're just out in
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  Speaker 5: the open with them. And it was difficult. But the
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  Speaker 5: Alabama fans love their Alabama football like nobody ever before.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they don't take a breath without thinking Alabama football.
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing. I would get a gift every day. And
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  Speaker 5: I would sign.
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  Speaker 5: About 50 to 100 items every day. You know, those
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  Speaker 5: are just things that take up your time. You don't
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  Speaker 5: expect to have that much of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. When you came here in 03, Mack Brown
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  Speaker 1: was in the middle of his run in Austin. I
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  Speaker 1: think he won at least 10 games, 9 or 10
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  Speaker 1: years in a row. You got there in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of that run. and recruiting had been flipped a little
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  Speaker 1: bit in the state. What was your mindset when you
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  Speaker 1: stepped onto this campus, Fran?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I felt like we could recruit with anybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we just had to get out and do it and
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  Speaker 5: work hard at it, and we had to evaluate well.
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  Speaker 5: As we were gaining steam, we had to pick the
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  Speaker 5: right players, you know, Nothing hurts you worse than choosing
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  Speaker 5: an athlete to be one of your 20 or so
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  Speaker 5: recruits at the time. And then you made a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's on me. It's not on anybody else.
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  Speaker 5: But you've got to really study and you've got to
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  Speaker 5: put time into recruiting and evaluating especially. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we had a couple of kids, nobody else
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  Speaker 5: offered scholarships to. Ryan Tannehill, he was a good example.
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  Speaker 5: I think he might have had. an offer from tech,
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  Speaker 5: maybe it turned out to be a pretty darn good
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  Speaker 5: player and played a long time in the NFL. And, and, um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you, I've been fortunate in my coaching career
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  Speaker 5: to be able to evaluate well, or Danny and Tomlinson
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  Speaker 5: didn't have hardly any offers and Brian or Lacker didn't
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  Speaker 5: have another offer. So, you know, you use those skills
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  Speaker 5: and you stick to your evaluation because Texas had offered
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  Speaker 5: them that, um, That didn't matter to us.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: We want to offer them. Does it fit in our
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  Speaker 5: style of football and everything? And, you know, the first
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  Speaker 5: three years was tough against Texas. We got a little
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  Speaker 5: closer each year. And then finally, you know, the fourth
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  Speaker 5: and fifth year, we were able to beat them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back-to-back years, there's probably less than a handful of
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  Speaker 1: coaches here that have done that. Um, and I guess
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  Speaker 1: your reward, the second year that you beat them was,
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  Speaker 1: was to go look for another job, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm being second time and you're out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for beating Texas and don't let the door hit
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  Speaker 1: you on the way out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. They, they told me before the game and, and I,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like the Texas game don't matter. Nope.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I, coached my tail off, and all our coaches did, too.
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  Speaker 5: We wanted to win.
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  Speaker 1: You have a reputation, speaking of that, of, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, being a grinder. Do
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  Speaker 1: you consider yourself that in terms of how you went
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  Speaker 1: about the job every day?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, probably. I wanted to make sure that the I's
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  Speaker 5: were dotted, the T's were crossed, and if we lost
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  Speaker 5: the game, it wasn't because of something we didn't do
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  Speaker 5: or something we should have done that we didn't do.
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  Speaker 5: By kickoff, I wanted everything to be in place so
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  Speaker 5: that we had our best chance to win. My wife
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  Speaker 5: called at 7-11. You get there at 7 and you
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  Speaker 5: stay until 11. We didn't really have a clock we watched.
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  Speaker 5: We did what we needed to do to have our
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  Speaker 5: team prepared for every situation. Some of our coaches that
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  Speaker 5: I see out there today, they're much more concerned with
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: how soon they get home at night, and how little
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  Speaker 5: time they can get by with. And if they can
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  Speaker 5: be a success and do that, that's more power to them.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't do that. I had to make sure everything
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  Speaker 5: was in place, Even on Friday nights at the hotel,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes we were still coaching and teaching kids and showing
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: them things on film. The more you watch the film,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: the more you see and the more you figure out
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  Speaker 5: how that other coaching staff is coaching this position to
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  Speaker 5: do this on this. Like an outside linebacker, what does
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  Speaker 5: he close on the down block? Does he in your reaching,
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  Speaker 5: you know, what are, what are the things that you
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  Speaker 5: can do that, that, you know, hopefully you've seen it
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: all during the week, but invariably by Friday night, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: find one little thing about a corner or somebody that, Hey, we,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: we can change this just a little bit, this move
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: here or whatever, and maybe get a little advantage on
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: the guy. So we, we, we did a lot of that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: We were grinders.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Um, You write about kind of the last year and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the story came out with the newsletter and all of that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And I just like you. I mean, I don't want
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to put words in your mouth. I read the chapter.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But I'd like, from your perspective, what happened and the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: fact that maybe that was used as an excuse to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: get rid of you.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it was. and to get out of my contract. And,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you know, there was nothing there in the end. They
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: went through it with a fine-tooth comb. Bill Byrne knew
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: about the newsletter the whole time. We didn't ever try
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: to hide anything. And, you know, it cost quite a
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: bit to run that website, but I thought it was
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: a great communication device with people and that it really
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: served a purpose, you know, on things. But, uh, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: when they're, when they're tired of you, um, they can,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: they'll find a reason. Yeah. It's really, are you not
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: winning enough or whatever, this or that. And it's always
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: the bottom line, but they can use other excuses to
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: get out of things that they want to get out of.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: And that's kind of what happened. I mean, you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: it was, I always heard Aggies don't like cheaters feel.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I felt like, um, we were caught in a little
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: bit of a crossfire there that really didn't need to
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: be the way it was. But, you know, at the time,
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: we were probably on the hot seat and the media
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: was making their way with that. And, you know, when
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: the fire gets started, sometimes you can't get it put out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you've been in coaching long enough. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the profession you chose. Probably when you chose it, especially
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: when you were, coaching high school, you weren't ever thinking
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: about meeting presidents and, and having to deal with donors
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. That's my guess anyway.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Well, you always, you don't have donors much in high school.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: You have to act like donors. And, you know, I,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I always enjoyed that part of it. I mean, the
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: crazy ones, um, drive you a little nuts, but, uh, um,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: You know, you're trying to create passion in your program,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: and that was the great thing in my career. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: finally got to places like TCU and Alabama and Texas
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: A & M where I didn't have to create passion.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I had to manage it. Yes. That's what you're trying
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: to do is be able to put yourself in one
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: of those positions where if you do well, you can
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: win a national championship and, you know, you understand what
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the repercussions are if you don't do well enough.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: How long did it take you to wind down, gear
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: down mentally, emotionally after working 18 hours a day, seven
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: days a week for 30 or 40 years?
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. I know it took a
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: good three months just for me to kind of find
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: a routine. I was so out of routine. And then
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I remember that first fall, I wasn't coaching, and I
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: was doing ESPN. We had a game. There was a
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: game on a Friday, and I'm sorry I haven't gone
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: to the site yet. Maybe it was Thursday, but anyway,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I'm helping Kim dry the dishes, and I'm watching the game,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: and I go, what am I doing? Game going on,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and I'm drying the dishes.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: It was good. You found out that there was a
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: life beyond coaching that I didn't get to enjoy a
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: great deal. Um, but, um, I, I have no complaints. I,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I got to coach for 40 years. I never got
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: up a day in my life and went to work.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: It is in for two, uh, any, anybody that can,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: then chip, you can probably say that about your career. I,
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I bet, uh, you've gotten to do a lot of
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: what you love to do and you're so good at it. And,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: When you love to do it, you know, it's not
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: like work.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: You're right. I promise you, Coach, I'm not working 18
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hours a day, seven days a week.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Well, that never bothered me. You know, my job was
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: to get the team as ready to play as I could,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and I would have been bothered if I hadn't done that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Every once in a while, after a game's over, you
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: stop and think, well, in retrospect, maybe we should have.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: done this instead of this. I mean, you always guess
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: yourself really. It's not second guessing. It's really just evaluation
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: so that you don't make the same mistake again, or,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: you know, that you make sure you have things in
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: perspective to give your team the best chance you can.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for, for the time. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: want to mention that the book tough times never last
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: is through TCU press and coach. I wish you the best.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I wish you good health and, long years with your grandkids.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you. And I might mention that you can
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and I think Target.
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: Awesome.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: And if anybody wants one signed, they can send it
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: to me and I'll send it back or, you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: maybe I'll meet him somewhere. And I think now that
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: you've got to read it, you can comment on this,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: but it seems like most people have enjoyed the book
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: and there's a lot of humor in the book and
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: the I wanted there to be some things in there
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: that a guy like you might say, gosh, I didn't
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: know a Division I head football coach had to do that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, I learned a lot that I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: did not know, and I learned a lot about, frankly,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: what you had to overcome, which nobody should have to do.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: It was substantial, and Got a deep respect for what
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you've been able to navigate and how you've come out
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: on the other side.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you. That's nice of you to say that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Coach.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you having me on.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That was an interview that I did with Coach Fant
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when his book came out,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and I would recommend you grab it and read a copy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Our condolences to Kim and all the family and the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: loss of the former Aggie football coach. Producers Cooperative is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: closing up here in a minute, but not to worry.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: They're open the rest of the week, 730 to 530
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: through Saturday. It's a, you know, it's so much more
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: than an ag supply business. It's got, of course, that
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: gigantic lawn and garden center. They have pet supply products
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and fuel and so much more and experts on hand.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: To answer any question you might have, you don't have
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to be a member of the co-op. To walk in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the front door and take advantage of everything they have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to offer, right there on Texas Avenue, just a little
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: bit north of Highway 21, you can go online and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: check out everything at producerscooperative.com. Producers. Everything acts. It's 1943.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Fall in Aggieland means Messina Hop. Cheering on the Aggies,
• 28:23
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• 30:00
  Speaker 11: My hat don't hang on the same nail too long.
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: My ears can't stand to hear the same old song.
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: And I don't leave the highway long enough to balk down.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: In the mud.
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: Cause I've got rambling fever in my blood. I caught
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: this rambling fever long ago.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: When I first heard a long... Mallory is brought to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: us by Southwest Card World.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's not brought to us by Southwest Card World?
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: It's not Mallory.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: Doggone.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I need to. We need to start doing this in
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the same room. Mallory lost her voice and she can't.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Find it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: She's having a difficult time locating it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: She has promised to quit talking until this time tomorrow.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: Come on, man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's difficult.
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: I think we both know her.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I love that woman. We've got a little bet going.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I'm also sad.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: I love hearing that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's promised to quit talking and try to get
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: her voice shaped up for tomorrow. But we're glad to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have Lizzie here.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: Hello.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I hate to start this way, but as you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: when people die, this is how we start the show. Cool.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Jim Baker has died. Built a Christian television empire with
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the PTA Club. He and wife Tammy Faye in the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: 1970s built a theme park in South Carolina, but the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: empire collapsed in the 1980s amid sex and money scandals.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Baker was convicted of fraud and conspiracy for misusing funds,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: selling lifetime memberships to a hotel that was never built,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: sentenced to 45 years in prison.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: But did he?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Sir Five. Tammy, of course, died of cancer. Yes. He remarried.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Lori announced his death last night. And he was... 86.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: But, you know, it's been a long time ago. People
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: younger don't know what the heck I just said.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's probably true.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: But I do. They were a big deal.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: Makes me want to get my blue eye shadow out.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And cry. Oh, yes. And cry. It's got to cry.
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: I have to cry.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It's got to run.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: I have to have the mascara running.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Down my face. Absolutely. It's got to run. It kind
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of makes me want to put some on, too, to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: be real honest with you.
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: Hey, you know, I do make up. I can't help you.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, I know.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I got that one for you last time. I know
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you can.
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You can take care of me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: What's next?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about Digger last week. Yes,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we did. I'm excited to talk about this. Wide release.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Been buried at the box office.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: Major flop.
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yes. being called a major flop. Costs about $ 125 million.
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: Just to make it? To make it. And then also
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: to promote it another $ 100 million?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Wow, they sure did.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: How much did they make last weekend in the U.S.?
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: The U.S.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Made $ 8 million.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: And only $ 12 in the international market.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: $ 12 in the international market.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: So what is that? That's $ 20 million.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, out of $ 225 million. But there are rumors.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: They said it cost $ 125 million. There are rumors it
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: cost much $ 180 million.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: You know what? I believe it. I believe it. But
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: do you think he's still going to get that Oscar
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: nod that he's going for? Probably.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I think so, too.
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Hollywood will love it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. When the Oscars come along next year,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it'll be the greatest movie ever made. Doesn't matter that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: people don't like it, don't see it. That's not what
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Hollywood does.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: I heard there's a twist. I'm not going to get
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: into it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about any of that. I was
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: actually curious because this guy does make weird movies. We
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: talked about that. There's going to be some love it,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: some hate it. There's not much in between. I would
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: just I'd like to see a movie with maybe no
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: political elements. implications that could just entertain me that's not
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: this movie that's not this movie did you see it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: No okay i mean i can no no i from
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: the oh.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: No no no it's definitely not this.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: Movie uh so some people put their head in the
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: sand yeah there are political yeah so anyway uh it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: it's a bomb yeah uh we'll see how it goes
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: maybe it's a slow burn.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: He hadn't had many of those Bombs?
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: No.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: What will happen is next February, whenever, when they release
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: all the awards, it'll gain a bunch of awards. And
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: then they'll re-release it. And a few more people will
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: go see it. But you can't make people go. Yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a few more.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: We'll see. It's going to be in streaming.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: It'll be streaming. It probably will.
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: I'll stream it before then.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It'll be streamed before then.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: I got something.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Good. Wedding bells.
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: Wedding bells. TJ Holmes and Amy Robach.
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: Oh, good gosh.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: From Good Morning America.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, good gosh. Thank goodness.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: Their scandalous relationship start.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, they apparently applied for.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: They fired themselves.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: Yes. They applied for a marriage license and it was confirmed.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: It was denied.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: They applied for a marriage license and the guy said,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: no way, you sleazeballs, get out of here.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because that was the thing that was crazy is
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: how they started.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: They were both married, right?
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: They were both married. They were spotted in public holding hands.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: Now they are getting married. So, I mean, their wedding
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: has to be happening very soon. It does say that
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: they want to make a wedding that is very special
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: to us.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: I think it means they're going to go to Vegas
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: and one of them is going to dress up as Elvis.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's Amy. I think that'd be perfect. And I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: think they should. I think this one's going to last forever.
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: Oh, sure.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Man, I think we've talked about what a cynic I
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: am before.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. Michael Douglas has a memoir out. It's making lots
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of headlines. Behind the curtain of his five-decade career. He
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: opens up about his battle with throat cancer, 2010. His
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: strained early relationship with Father Kirk. Douglas is 82. About
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: his separation.
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Did we even know about that? Did we know about
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the separation? From what's-her-name? His wife?
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: From Catherine Zeta-Jones.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: I didn't know they were separated.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they are. I think they were
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: at one point. Talked about doing drugs with OJ.
• 37:17
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody should have done that. I mean, you know, that's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: no big deal.
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: I just wasn't old enough.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: How he and his Romancing the Stone co-star, Kathleen Turner.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Fell hard for each other while he was still married
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to his first wife.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: Hence the storied past.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yes. While I was in L.A., I wasn't exactly a saint,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: he wrote. If things aligned, I'd run into singer Harry Nelson. Sorry.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Harry Nelson garnered quite the reputation in Los Angeles. With
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: John Lennon and Ringo Starr. I don't know if he
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: dealt the drugs, but he was heavy into them. Yeah, participation.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Everyone knew that if they wanted to participate, just find Harry.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Because he always had them.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: He had that gold medal participation.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: He said, I'd go out at night, sleep four hours,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: go back to the office early in the morning, work
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: all day, do it all over again. It was a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: different time.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: But did he do it while he was working, though?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he did say. I never drank or did
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: drugs while working. In general, he says, and this is
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: going to shock you and all of our listeners, drugs
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: were easily accessible.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: What a shock.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Both on and off Hollywood sets, and one of the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: large talent agencies would slip you cocaine when you valeted
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: your car.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: That's the most shocking part.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Those were the days.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Man, the 80s.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Those were the days.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: Coke just lined the streets. I got a Taylor Swift
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: and a Travis Kelsey.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Good gosh. I can't. Am I the lighthearted?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: We're nine minutes into this thing, and you're holding out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: on us.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: Oh, they stepped out in style.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: Good for them.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: They were coordinated.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: They're that newlyweds. They're coordinating their outfits.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Gag me. They probably have dressers, don't you think, like
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the Royals do?
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, Taylor's got people that- Yeah, but Travis, do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: You really see- yeah taylor is.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Travis yeah taylor uses what i'm wearing travis yeah yeah
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: no no no taylor goes here's what i'm wearing here's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: what you're wearing okay i promise.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: You well they went out for his birthday his 37th birthday.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: In kansas city because that's where he's working no they
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: were in new york What, Kansas City's not good enough
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: for the birthday?
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: Maybe not. They can probably hop on a flight at
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: any time.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: You think?
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Private?
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Which jet should we use this time? Sorry. Yeah, so
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: they went out Monday for his birthday in New York.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: So wait a minute. Wait a minute.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: They were out last night in New York. I guess
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: he was off. I guess they're. They're usually off. Well,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: this makes sense. Generally speaking, the NFL schedule, if you
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: have games on Sundays, come in on Monday for treatment.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Tuesdays are off. So they flew Monday, or he did.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Tay-Tay's probably already up in the apartment.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: You think she is?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: Who knows?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: With her handlers.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: They went all black, like they.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Were wearing black lace-trimmed dress. And where were they? Do
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: we know? Where did they celebrate the birthday?
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: They went to Teresi. It's an Italian place in Soho.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, of course.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sure you've been.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: That's a great place.
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: Great breadsticks, I hear.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they charge you for them. And that makes
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: me so furious when they do that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: I guess it depends on where you go.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It's bread.
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Come on. Now, I'm going to my favorite Italian restaurant
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: here in about a month. And they do charge for bread,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but it's worth it. They'll give you some just normal bread.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But this garlic cheesy bread, the best. The best, Jerry.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: The best.
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: No.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Out of state. We'll talk about it later.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: We'll talk about it later.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You're going to a big concert.
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: Oh, wait, I think we did discuss this.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a little bit. Okay, what else you got?
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: I've got Tim McGraw and Faith Hill celebrating 30 years
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: of marriage.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he posted online about it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That's like dog years. That's like 210 years of marriage.
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: Seriously, in their industry?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: Absolutely. 30 years.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Good for them.
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: So that was just this morning he posted about it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: What'd he say?
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: Let's see. Oh, he just was posting nostalgic clips and
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: photos and he put the music behind it was my
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: best friend. That song that he wrote is so cute.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: And even their kids were like, oh, good for them.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: So it's cool. It's also good when you're old enough
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: and you have kids together and you're married that long
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: and they still want to talk to.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You. You're right about that. For real. You're right about that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, I mean, that's the gist of it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Good for them.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: But congratulations to Tim and Faith.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: You don't hear about their kids making trouble, or we haven't,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that I remember, right?
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not super in the limelight.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They're not super in the limelight.
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: And I like that. I think that's probably why they've
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: continued to be married.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Unlike a couple we just talked about who are always
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: in the limelight.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: But everybody's different. It could work for them.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it will. Martha Stewart.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: Oh, I love Martha.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't love Martha? How can you not love Martha?
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: I love the dryness of her humor and her relationship
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: with Snoop.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Do you know she's 85? Yeah, it's incredible. Parts of her.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Parts of her, yes. Appears in the first episode of
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Other People's Business, the new Masterclass weekly podcast spotlighting untold
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: business stories to discuss the business of influence.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: But I wonder, is her story untold?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Well, let's see. CEO David Rozier, the entrepreneur, marvels at
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the breadth of Martha's own career over 40 years, highlighting
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: her focus on being authentic to herself and creating good products.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: In the episode, she detailed the profits she has made
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: over her career from catering to writing to starting Martha
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Stewart Magazine. She reflects on the return she gained from
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: partnering with Kmart. I was clearing $ 65 million a year
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: in royalties, she says. Just in royalties from that alone.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Kmart.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: That doesn't include the other money she was making.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Kmart. $ 65 milsky.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: Can't spend that in royalties.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Also in the trailer, Stuart utilizes her signature humor, as
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you were talking about.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: Yes, she's so dry.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I love it. While discussing an example of how she
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: tries not to critique friends when she goes over as
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a guest. You know, I would invite Martha to dinner.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: Could you imagine?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, I would do it. And I'm not going
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to do anything special. I'm just going to do what
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I do, and she's going to love it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Do you have a favorite thing that you make?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I have several.
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: I'd order pizza. Just kidding.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: From Domino's.
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: How do you like my table dressing?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I thought it was iced coffee because it was murky,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: she says to Rozier. What is she talking about? Gesturing
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: to a mug in front of her, but it's water.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, is it clean water or not?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Rozier laughs with Martha, confirming with someone out of view
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that the water is in fact clean and drinkable. Stewart
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is later seen in the trailer making a shocked sound
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: into clasped hands saying, I fell in a hole and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I lost a billion dollars.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Now, that's a big hole when you lose a billion dollars.
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: When was that?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Part of the insider trading scandal of 2004, which spent
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: five months in the hooscow, as we know.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: She became the first self-made female billionaire in the United
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: States when Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia went public in 1999. Wow.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: After selling her stake in biopharmaceutical company Emclone in 2001,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: investigators questioned the sale. Following a trial, she was found
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: guilty of conspiracy, obstruction, two counts of lying to federal investigators.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: In other People's Business episode, Martha reveals her appreciation for
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Ballerina Farms' Hannah Nealman while highlighting how content must be
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: central to an influencer's business like it has been for
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: her own. In other words, you can't just talk about anything.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: You have to have stuff. She encourages modern influencers... not
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to diminish themselves in their content by including their husbands
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: for no reason. Adding she thinks independence is important as
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: a woman in business.
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: And they're probably not that interesting anyway. You know what?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Martha's had her issues with men over the years.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: What got me is her talking about that water. And
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: I'm like, you were in jail. You probably drank toilet wine.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But she doesn't have to anymore.
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: That's true.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: God bless her. She came back and just went right
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: back to work. I know. And she came back strong.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And made more money.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Because she knows how.
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Because she's Martha freaking Stewart.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: We got time for one more?
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: Hayden Panettiere is ex-Vladimir. Klitschko.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Yes yeah the boxer.
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: Yes he believes someone in her orbit has sold some
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: of her stuff to a pawn shop oh good gosh
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: yeah he's apparently the uh.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: He's the executive guardian of their daughter yes he got guardianship.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: Yes and so he is.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Before she died.
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: Yes yeah he's trying to figure out a way to
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: get those things but the pawn shop won't talk to him.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Well he's gonna have to get an attorney.
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but they won't even start an investigation because they're
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: saying he doesn't have the rights to do that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't have power of attorney.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: So he's working on getting that so that he can
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: start an investigation, but he's just very worried that those
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: things are going to get sold to.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Third parties before anything can happen. That's horrible.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: Which I'm like, why bring attention to it? Because that's
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: the fastest way.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: To get people to go by. You're right. Unless he's
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: trying to smoke somebody out.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, that's true. But it's very sad.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this about the Emmys
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: or not, but today.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: Sure did.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: They reached an agreement with Prime.
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: They're streaming. No more ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC. They used
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to rotate. I didn't know that. They rotated. The historic partnership.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: By shifting from a rotating model to a dedicated long-term agreement,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the Television Academy has secured a permanent home for the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: gold standard of excellence available to audiences worldwide. I don't
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: think the Emmy Awards is the gold standard of anything.
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: You don't?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No, it's an award show.
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: Sure, but it's the gold standard of TV, right?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I'm reading a biography of Bob Newhart right now. I'm
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: going to have the author on soon. He never won
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: an Emmy for his TV show.
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: That is a shame.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Is that crazy?
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: His first show, the original show, when he was a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: psychologist in Chicago, was nominated for three non-acting Emmys, that
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: The second show, Newhart, Yes. Was nominated for 25 Emmys,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: including a couple of the big ones. And never won.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Never won. Is that incredible?
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: That's a shame.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It's incredible to me. I mean, it's Bob Newhart.
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: Bob Newhart is someone that had the Daryl with the
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: other brother Daryl, right?
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: I love that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Larry with his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl.
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: That's right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And one of the greatest. Series endings in television history.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Some people have voted it the greatest series ending in television.
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: I need to rewatch it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: You do.
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Because Suzanne Plachette showed up. Oh, it was awesome. Okay,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: let's do birthdays.
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: Okay. What do you got?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Let me start with Sunday. Leroy Van Dyke, country music star,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: 97 years young on Sunday. Lori Saunders, who played one
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of the sisters on Petticoat Junction, turned 85 on Sunday.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: That's how old that show is. Susan Sarandon. I love her. Oh,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: she could act in her day.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: She can act now.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: She turned 80 on Sunday.
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: She's awesome.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Parts of her. Uh, Amanda Sante turned 77 on Sunday.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Christoph Waltz. Oh my gosh.
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: He's so talented.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Glorious bastards. What a movie. Turned 70 on Sunday. Congratulations. Uh,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: let's see. I don't need that. I don't need that.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I don't need that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: I actually thought he was older.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Um, Oh, Liv Shriver. He's had some issues.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: He turned 59 on Sunday. I hope he didn't get
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: drunk to celebrate because he's had lots of issues.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: Talented guy, though.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: It's a shame.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: It is. I'm just looking if I can find someone
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that I care about and know. Oh, Dakota Johnson.
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: Oh, okay.
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: 37. What?
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: 37. You thought she was younger, didn't you?
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: No, I didn't.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: You thought she was older?
• 51:56
  Speaker 13: I did.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: She was pretty young when she did the Fifty Shades
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: of Grey thing. Yeah, I guess she was. That's been
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: But she's actually so funny.
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: Did you see her on SNL?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think I did.
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: She's done it a couple of times, and she's actually
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: very funny. Her deadpan is incredible.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I'll believe you. Yesterday, the great Steve Miller turned 83
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: years young. Fly like an eagle. I saw him at
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Austin City Limits Theater about, I don't know, six, seven
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: years ago. Oh, man, he was good. Still good.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: Great memories.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Daniel Baldwin, one of the lesser-known Baldwin brothers,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: turned 66 yesterday.
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: Guy Pearce.
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: L.A.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Confidential turned 59 yesterday.
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: Let's see.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: If there's anybody else I need to talk about. Kate Winslet.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: Oh, how old is.
• 52:56
  Speaker 14: She?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: She was in My Little Dinging, I believe. Turned 51 yesterday. Yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I was going to say.
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: She's just in her 50s. She's very outspoken.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Jesse Eisenberg turned 43 yesterday. I thought he was older.
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: All right. No, I didn't think he did.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Let's do today's.
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: Today.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Britt Eklund. Oh, she could act in her day. 84 today.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: Wild.
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: Kevin Cronin from REO Speedwagon. 75.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: And Elizabeth Shue, 63.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I like her. I like Elizabeth Shue.
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: How old was she?
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: 63. 63.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: Ooh, I got one.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: Tommy Simpson of Guns N' Roses.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: 60.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: 60?
• 53:38
  Speaker 13: 60.
• 53:39
  Speaker 11: 60.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: It was a late addition to Guns N' Roses. Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: Because I'm pretty sure Axl's a little bit.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He's older. This is not a great day
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: for birthdays.
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: Whoa.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you.
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: Brett Gellman from Stranger Things.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: You say so.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: And, oh, Melinda Doolittle. She was an American Idol contestant. Okay.
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: She's 49.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: All right. So that's about it. I think that's probably it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: It's not a great birthday day. It was a good
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: birthday weekend.
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: We can talk about mine next month. Oh, excellent.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: You have to remind me.
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: Oh, I will.
• 54:13
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