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Tigers Finish Road Trip Strong · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tigers Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Ball Territory Network, a Detroit Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen
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  Speaker 1: Sechley with me as always as a man who's been
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  Speaker 1: sleepless in Seattle my choice.
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  Speaker 2: He is Coachy savidg And how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Hey? Doing all right? We got the six am flight
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  Speaker 3: home coming up this morning, so it's it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: an early one that I am excited to get back home.
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  Speaker 3: And then Friday we got the home opener at co
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  Speaker 3: America Park.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you one thing, Cody, like
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  Speaker 1: I for one am over the West coast, thing like
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  Speaker 1: I've had enough.
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  Speaker 3: I've had enough of it, you know, not even in
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  Speaker 3: the Eastern time zone, like the majority of the listener.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, true, and kudos to them.
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  Speaker 1: Like I like, we're doing this Wednesday night, published obviously Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: We're normally we'd published on Wednesday, but like that was
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  Speaker 1: just a late night the Casey mid had himself an
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  Speaker 1: outing gotta get story up, and I was like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, let's just talk about the series once it's
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  Speaker 1: a wrap, you know, and so like this is just
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  Speaker 1: kind of us making it up as we go as
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  Speaker 1: we adjust this new schedule, a lot of weird things,
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  Speaker 1: the West Coast Strip, all that stuff. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, which I hope you are, we I'm
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  Speaker 1: in my softball uniform right now. I told my guys
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  Speaker 1: we're down by nine runs. I was like, if we
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  Speaker 1: come back and win this game, I'm doing the podcast
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  Speaker 1: in the uniform. So I gotta make good on my
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  Speaker 1: end of the bargain. So please subscribe on YouTube if
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  Speaker 1: you have not all ready. All right, I would classify
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  Speaker 1: Cody these three games at Seattle as kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a like a return to normalcy, almost almost choky, almost chocky,
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  Speaker 1: Like you felt good of going in based We talked
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  Speaker 1: about this based on just like their approach at the
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  Speaker 1: plate and you know, some bad luck stuff and you
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  Speaker 1: know it and it's the Dodgers, all right, and the
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  Speaker 1: Manors got some dudes on there, but they're not the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: and so like you felt kind of good, but then
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  Speaker 1: you saw it kind of happened. Guys who had not
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  Speaker 1: done anything at the plate in Los Angeles found themselves
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle with some key hits, and especially like to
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  Speaker 1: start the series off with the offensive bombardment there on
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  Speaker 1: Monday night. So disappointing the way you lose on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: But overall, I feel like the guys gotta be feeling
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  Speaker 1: pretty good finally going back home to play some baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this was a tough opening road trip.
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  Speaker 3: That's the reality. You know, the Dodgers obviously are what
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  Speaker 3: they are, and then the Mariners have one of the
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  Speaker 3: tougher pitching staffs in baseball. I think to go too
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  Speaker 3: and four on this road trip, I kind of always
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  Speaker 3: thought like that is maybe almost like what you should expect.
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  Speaker 3: You should feel good. You want to avoid being zero
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  Speaker 3: and six or one in five. If you're three and three,
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  Speaker 3: you should be kind of over the moon two and four.
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  Speaker 3: You played pretty good baseball in all six games, even
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  Speaker 3: if there were some very costly mistakes and your losses,
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  Speaker 3: you were right there every time you won your first
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  Speaker 3: sceries of the year in Seattle. I think the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: are coming home with good vibes. The gritty Tigs thing
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  Speaker 3: is alive and well. They played twenty seven outs on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: even if it was a very winnable game for them,
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  Speaker 3: They were in it, bases loaded in the ninth, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things to clean up, but you're also down
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  Speaker 3: three key players right now. That's probably important to keep
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  Speaker 3: in mind. You kind of got to keep yourself treading
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  Speaker 3: water until you get healthy. A good way to do
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  Speaker 3: that is probably to play the Chicago White Sox, who
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  Speaker 3: you're about to see for the next few.
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  Speaker 1: Days, right And I would say, as much as answers
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  Speaker 1: can be had six games into a season, I do
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel and I said this last time, three
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  Speaker 1: more games, I still feel the way, like the whole
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  Speaker 1: gritty tags thing, I've had a fear for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Thats like, is this like a.
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  Speaker 1: Sustainable sort of like mantra to have, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things went right, and you know it
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  Speaker 1: was all great, but does that really carry over a
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  Speaker 1: year to year? I don't even want to say it
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  Speaker 1: carries over, but I would say that the ethos and
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  Speaker 1: the makeup and like the whole I would say, like
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  Speaker 1: practicing what they preach aspect of the gritty tig stuff
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  Speaker 1: is definitely in play here. And you would say that
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  Speaker 1: they're doing this with not their best hand. It is
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  Speaker 1: obviously the case there the Torres injury we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: here in a second. But I thought that if you
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  Speaker 1: were like everything you were kind of looking for or
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  Speaker 1: realistically expecting kind of played out in Seattle. And that
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  Speaker 1: started with the bats going a little bit and also
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  Speaker 1: started with Jackson Joe looking like, I would say.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like a highlight reel, but not complete picture.
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  Speaker 1: Because because like if you were to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: look at the ninja stuff for Jackson Joe, he was
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  Speaker 1: like bamn, like it's all right there. But the sequencing,
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  Speaker 1: the fastball command particularly ended up shortening his nine He
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  Speaker 1: goes four innings. You know, he has three k's, four walks,
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  Speaker 1: three year in runs and and and it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of gave you the whole Jackson Job experience, even though
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  Speaker 1: it was shorter than you would ideally like, but like
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  Speaker 1: your impressions of Jackson Joe for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: the major leagues starting.
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  Speaker 3: A game, yeah, I think in one way you could
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  Speaker 3: almost come walk away. It's the kid's first major league start,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, well, you can almost walk away a
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  Speaker 3: little bit frustrated because he did repeat some of the
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  Speaker 3: same mistakes we saw at times last year even in
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  Speaker 3: the minor leagues, and we saw it kind of for
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  Speaker 3: the better part of spring, and then we saw it
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  Speaker 3: in this first start, which was mostly just poor location,
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  Speaker 3: a very hittable fastball, not quite able to He had
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  Speaker 3: ten whiffs, but not really able to punch guys out
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  Speaker 3: at the rate you would like for a prospect of
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  Speaker 3: his Caliper. At the same time, it was his first
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  Speaker 3: career major league start. The stuff is special. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: see increasing data all year. I think that backs that
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  Speaker 3: up early on. His stuff plus graded out really well.
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  Speaker 3: Ranks among the top eleven pitchers in baseball as of
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday night, and it's pretty funny. You can also look
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  Speaker 3: at location plus and he is easily the worst of
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  Speaker 3: those top eleven, but ross stuff. He's up there with
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  Speaker 3: Trek Skouble, with Paul Schmes, with Garrett Crochet. You have
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  Speaker 3: to think in time that location is going to get better.
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  Speaker 3: The fastball, I think, is in a way a little
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  Speaker 3: bit the big mystery with checks and job right now,
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  Speaker 3: because it has all the characteristics of a plus fastball,
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  Speaker 3: but it's getting hit hard. I think maybe there's a
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  Speaker 3: simple explanation, and I know the Mariners broadcast their speculation.
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  Speaker 3: Could he have been tipping pitches? I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a simple explanation. He's thrown it down
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  Speaker 3: the middle. He has been doing that kind of for
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  Speaker 3: a while now, but he's gonna learn, he's gonna grow,
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna get better. I don't think we were ever
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  Speaker 3: expecting perfect from him from the jump, And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that I have a ton I know none of
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  Speaker 3: that really sounds new because it's not. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: really have some more to say about it than that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like I will add this and does this
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  Speaker 1: sound like an excuse I put this on X, But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's part of the human nature,
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  Speaker 1: especially someone who's never gone through before.
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  Speaker 2: Like this, is that like.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to be the same kind not level, but
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  Speaker 1: the same kind of locked in when you go out
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  Speaker 1: there after you know, seven minutes and it's you know
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  Speaker 1: zero zero, three up, three down, you coming on and
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  Speaker 1: you like you're kind of like on time with your preparation,
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  Speaker 1: whereas like when it's awesome that the team got a
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  Speaker 1: six spot, you know, to a cushion.
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  Speaker 2: But he's also in the dugout.
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  Speaker 1: Longer than he probably will the rest of the of
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  Speaker 1: the year wait waiting to go out there. So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I it's not an excuse, but I just think that's
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  Speaker 1: part of the element of jackson Jobs first start. It
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  Speaker 1: would it would be it is an outlier of a
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  Speaker 1: routine that he went through that day.
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  Speaker 2: It's not an excuse, but I think it's part of it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's part.
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  Speaker 1: It's also hard again, like it it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just a human nature thing. You're up six nothing.
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  Speaker 1: How do you not think about the fact that you're
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  Speaker 1: up six nothing when you go up there?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I think, I just think that's an element. It's
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  Speaker 2: an element, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: I think. That's totally fair. I think when you envision
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  Speaker 3: your first career major league start, you probably don't envision
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  Speaker 3: singing the dugout for twenty minutes and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: he said he had to go down in the batting
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  Speaker 3: cage and like run and throw to stay loose. That's
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  Speaker 3: not that's not you know, something you're thinking about when
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  Speaker 3: the butterflies are floating around in the stomach and when
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  Speaker 3: you're a little bit nervous and nancy get out there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea if that made a difference, but
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  Speaker 3: it's certainly a little bit an abnormal part of the routine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna get to probably the most encouraging
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  Speaker 1: thing that happened in Seattle. But first a word from
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  Speaker 2: Now there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Reminder, you can do this with Code Baseball thirty and
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  Speaker 1: that is without the local blackouts.
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  Speaker 2: Big deal, big deal there, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Casey Mies was blackout during uh
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  Speaker 1: during his game, but.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the zone. He was in the zone.
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  Speaker 1: If you obviously you talked to him, and in Casey
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  Speaker 1: is very thought person. But if he gave you nothing
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  Speaker 1: quote wise Cody, I don't know if I would blame
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  Speaker 1: him because he was pretty dialed in. He like in
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  Speaker 1: the zone, like all these like sports cliches. He comes
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  Speaker 1: out there, gives up a base hit.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty much that. That was pretty much that
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  Speaker 2: for Casey Mice.
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  Speaker 1: He ends up with five point two, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: one hit and six k's three walks and and looked
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  Speaker 1: like looked like the guy that and I'll bring it
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: up again, the whole Casey mies apologist thing, like three
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  Speaker 1: for the Casey mees apologists out there out there in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Because he look he looked like a dude. It's like, really,
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  Speaker 1: this year number five is number five right there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a continuation of everything that we had
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  Speaker 1: kind of seen and hoped would manifest itself when the
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  Speaker 1: game's counted, and so like, I just gonna I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna give this to you because you talked to him,
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  Speaker 1: you saw it live. I mean, he was impressive as hell.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is doubt about that. In a way reminded
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  Speaker 3: me of talking to Spencer Toorkals in La like just
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  Speaker 3: the level of confidence was real. And I think we've
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  Speaker 3: heard Casey talk like that, you know, in his earlier
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  Speaker 3: days more than maybe we had Spencer. Casey can have
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  Speaker 3: that air about him when things are going right, and
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  Speaker 3: things are going right for him. They did all spring
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  Speaker 3: and certainly his first start, you could not have asked
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  Speaker 3: for anything more. I think that's the big question. Was
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  Speaker 3: this the best outing of his entire career? Which seems
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  Speaker 3: like a long time. But Karen and I have a question,
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  Speaker 3: do you know how mean wins winds your dumb stat
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  Speaker 3: Do you know, I mean wins Casey has in the
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  Speaker 3: Casey mice has in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: If I were to guess, yes, I'm gonna say twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven ten.
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  Speaker 3: Ten. That's in a way, how little we have seen
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  Speaker 3: of Casey Miyes, how little we have seen of Casey
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  Speaker 3: mies as best. Obviously, winds don't reflect everything, but ten.
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  Speaker 3: I was stunned when I saw that it was only
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  Speaker 3: thing got his entire career by game score. This grades
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  Speaker 3: out as the third best outing of his major league career.
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  Speaker 3: Second became Houston in twenty twenty one. I remember that outing,
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  Speaker 3: and the best outing of his career was against the
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  Speaker 3: Mariners in twenty twenty one. He went I think seven
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  Speaker 3: and two thirds in that game. I barely remember that game,
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  Speaker 3: and I know why. It's because the next day was
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  Speaker 3: Spencer Trembles, no hitter, So it's kind of easy I
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  Speaker 3: forget that that outing in Houston, Mies went seven. He
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  Speaker 3: was dominant. What I remember about that is how weird
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  Speaker 3: his splitter was. In a way, it was kind of
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of the you know, the bottom falling out,
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  Speaker 3: because the bottom was not falling out of that pitch.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't dropping, it wasn't driving. He was throwing it
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  Speaker 3: like a change up, and he got a ton of
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  Speaker 3: weak contact and a ton of ground balls on it.
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  Speaker 3: But he's using it in a way we had never seen.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't getting the same action. And I remember asking
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  Speaker 3: that night, like trying to get to the bottom of
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  Speaker 3: what was going on. Was this actually a strategic change
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  Speaker 3: come to find out? You know, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: Casey's talked about it a little bit last year. He
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  Speaker 3: talked about it with me again this week after his outing,
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  Speaker 3: just saying in the past his body was not allowing
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  Speaker 3: him to move in a way where he could execute
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  Speaker 3: his splitter. He had the back pain that caused pain
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  Speaker 3: that shot down his leg. He couldn't brace himself, and
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  Speaker 3: as a result of that, he couldn't really get on
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  Speaker 3: top of that pitch. If you want to see what
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  Speaker 3: Casey mis doing differently, just go to his Baseball Savant page.
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  Speaker 3: His arm angle has increased. It's way more over the top.
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  Speaker 3: It was like thirty five ish degrees two years ago,
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  Speaker 3: came back from the surgery. It was higher last year
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  Speaker 3: forty three degrees. And after one start, the average arm
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  Speaker 3: angle was forty five degrees, so he's literally throwing from
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  Speaker 3: a more over the top slot, getting on top of
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  Speaker 3: the baseball more. The splitter had some of the best
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  Speaker 3: action we have seen. Uh it was Casey. He's a perfectionist,
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  Speaker 3: so he's like, yeah, it wasn't very good to righties,
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  Speaker 3: and he was right. All the whiffs came against left
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  Speaker 3: handed batters. But I think just having that in his
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  Speaker 3: back pocket change everything else about his arsenal. We've seen
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  Speaker 3: the sliders be good at times. His newer slider, the
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  Speaker 3: depthier one was was pretty good. The fastball was very good,
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  Speaker 3: and having the splitter, suddenly he had three plus real pitches.
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  Speaker 3: He was commanding the fastball. It was completely a different
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  Speaker 3: pitcher than we have seen. There were times of even
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  Speaker 3: been critical with Casey. Mais was like, man, it's just
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  Speaker 3: the same thing, outing after outing and you know it's
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  Speaker 3: in there, but it's just not clicking. It clicked and
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  Speaker 3: it's been clicking. And very interesting about what it like
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  Speaker 3: he's able to.
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  Speaker 1: Does he come I feel like he kind of comes
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  Speaker 1: out and we'll talk about Schooble here in a second.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he comes out of this first stretch
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  Speaker 1: like you feel the best about the trajectory of Casey
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  Speaker 1: Mice like schools in school. We'll talk about him in
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  Speaker 1: a second, but there's an unt like if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's team that kind of figures to be in the
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  Speaker 1: mix with a lot of others, and when you're when
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  Speaker 1: playoff is your goal, when winning the division is your goal,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about all these small things that cost him
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  Speaker 1: a game, you know what I mean, that happened today too,
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  Speaker 1: But like, if you're looking at stuff that could kind
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  Speaker 1: of boost the trajectory of the team, Casey Mice unlocking
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  Speaker 1: something might be one of those things that like puts
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  Speaker 1: some over the top, like whatever that top is, but
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  Speaker 1: like over the top, because that's that's a projection that
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  Speaker 1: in November, December, January, February. You're like, eh, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we can really sketch that into this
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  Speaker 1: team's win output in the season.
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  Speaker 2: Now we can't.
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  Speaker 1: Now we can kind of Now, I think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to put like an expectation that he can be a
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  Speaker 1: certain level pitcher because this calendar year, that's all he's done.
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  Speaker 1: And am I overreacting to one start? I don't know, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but it's but it's because it's manifested for these past
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  Speaker 1: several months, and then all that work that we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see him is therefore we couldn't talk about. So if
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  Speaker 1: there's the best thing to feel good about starting two
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  Speaker 1: and four, seeing that version of myze like that, that's
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  Speaker 1: literally a difference maker for your team, a guy who
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  Speaker 1: was not guaranteed at a spot.
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  Speaker 2: In the starting rotation. So I think that's worth noting.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I'm like encouraged with what I've seen from
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  Speaker 3: Spencer Thorkalson, but like trying to kind of temper, you know,
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  Speaker 3: let's let's continue to see it. He deserves a ton
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  Speaker 3: of praise for what he's done, but let's continue to
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  Speaker 3: see it. I'm trying to temper myself with but I'm
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  Speaker 3: having a harder time, like I'm especially after seeing it
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  Speaker 3: translate in the regular season, especially after seeing the splitter
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  Speaker 3: moving like it was. I'm I'm a I'm a believer.
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  Speaker 1: Just like the monkeys, all right, So let's go to
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  Speaker 1: school bowl here for a second. We haven't really like
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  Speaker 1: talked about him since opening day, and like.
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  Speaker 2: I we we would say he was not on his
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  Speaker 2: a game opening day, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then today like he was still like he started out
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that game, not in school old fashion and theither or
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: high bars. But it's the raining cy Young. It's the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: odds on favor for the cy Young. We're doing high
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: bars here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I thought today he's gonna he gets the l But
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I thought today he got his groove back a little bit.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: He end he ends up, you know, going just under six.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: He gets he has the eight strikeouts, well was it
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: four in a row at one point towards the end there? Uh,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he has a Yeah, he has the three earned runs
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: on a mistake, but also a situation that he should
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: not have been in as well, my favorite expressions, both
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: things can't be true. But school like I think when
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he came out of the game, like in like throw,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: but it was kind of a heavy toss of his
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: glove and not a gentle toss of his hat.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He was not happy.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But I think I think if we're being if we're
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: being fair here, I feel pretty.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Good about his next start.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I like I might I might take the over on
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the strikeouts on his next start. I think he's gonna
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be dialed in because he looked like last year's schoobled
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: there for the majority of this game.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of costly waks, a couple you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: misflocations that got hammered. Obviously, those as tough as to say,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: those things he did not do very often last year.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: In a way, his first two outings are a little
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: bit of a reminder that, like, wait, no, baseball is
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: really hard. We kind of got accustomed to school just
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: dominating every time out. There're gonna be days where he's
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: only okay. Also, the alternative view is this was one shive,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: matching a career high for most whiffs he missed, I
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: think twenty three bats. He was pretty locked in. The
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Mariners were flailing over his change up. He didn't even
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: use much of his slider today. Second most whiffs in
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: his entire career and he only went five and two
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: thirds innings. He's gone longer than that before first pitch
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: strikerrate eighty percent. He was still very much dialed in
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: on those important fronts. And you know the cold Keith play.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: We'll probably talk about that a little bit more later.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: You can't really change that scoring wise, but kind of
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: mentally he'd be like, well, only one of those runs
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: was actually earned. You know, the Tigers should have been
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: out of the inning. Now, Schoogle also then hung a
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I think it was a change up to rob list
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that allowed the two runs to score. And that's what
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: he said after the game. He's like, you know, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: didn't make a pitch, so really that's on me, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: we're not talking about this otherwise. Yeah, I'm not at
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: all worried about school. I think, especially after seeing that
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: he's still throwing first pitch strikes, he's still missing bats.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: A little more refinement to do. But even today, it
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily perfect, it wasn't necessarily Cy Young caliber, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it was a really good outing and the Tigers had
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: a chance to win.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: It was a change up just for the record there.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And also again we're splitting hairs here, Like you think
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Parker Meadows goes and gets that ball. Perhaps perhaps, And
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not even criticizing Kreidler, but like, but it was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a tough play but also a one I thought like
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: he had a chance to again, tough play, not crisism metal.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a stat, there's a glancing stat.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I think a chance to write it down. But it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: was something like schoobl is giving up three home runs,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know, two starts. I think it took him nine
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: starts last year to give up three home runs. It
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was something, it was something along those rounds. So I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: don't want to say that's arm percent, but I'm pretty
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: sure that's correct there. And again this is this old
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: part of it. I feel I feel pretty confident. Ay,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm always gonna bet on schoobl metaphorically, like he'll figure
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it out. But like he did look like British Schoobl there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Uh in a second, all right, Well, we talked about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the cold Keith play, like if there was a if
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: there was a who's had the most interesting start to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the year, Uh, it might be cold Keith Gody, Like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I just kind of had written down like how is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: cold Keith?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Like how is cold Keith? Because he's not he's not
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: hitting the ball like you would expect.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And after going over in the first three games, like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have it's a little bit of a climb.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It's only through games, but a little bit of a climb.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And then he had what you get just best described
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: as a.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: A mine a brain fart.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I was trying to find a better way to describe it,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but a brain fart there with two outs, fielding, the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: slow grounder, spending like the first like all this stuff.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: That stuff happens over the course of under six two games.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: We all understand that, but he he is like what
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for almost four fifty on base Like it's just just
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like a just a real interesting and he has to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: basically change positions now for the short term. Just got
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of like an interesting, interesting six game experience.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: For cold Keith there. Given the lead up into the season.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: For yeah, you know, I said I wasn't actually worried
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: about him. After a really rough series he was overton
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: in LA he came out and in Seattle he was
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: three for seven and six walks. He is a four
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to forty on base percentage and he is not fully
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: found his timing only I think one of his hits
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: has actually been well struck. So if you're in a
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: rut and you're gonna have ruts throughout the season, if
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: your rut is a four forty on base percentage, you
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: will take that, you know, because the timing is going
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to come. There's still a question like how much power
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: is he gonna hit for? That's a very valid question,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: but col Keith's going to figure it out at the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: plate and you know, start connecting with the baseball better
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: than he is right now. I think that's just kind
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: of a given. It's eventually gonna click. His takes looked
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: a lot better at bats for the most part, looked
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: way better in Seattle. So I'm encouraged with that. You know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't really talk to him in LA, but just
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: watching his body language even in the clubhouse, like you
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: could tell he kind of wore those pretty hard and
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: a little worried, you know, coming off Wednesday, I'm sure
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: he's getting some meat from the fan base with Well,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: we'll just show it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Here's the play because hopping all over the field and
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: the nickname is stuck for mister Phil round ball second
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: base keith a little awkward and then a spin and
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: he was laid on all of it. He's gotta get
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: the runner. At first he looked at.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I don't I'd like, I don't know what that was.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That was weird, right, hat trick of mistakes. It was
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a hat trick of mistakes, you know, And that's just
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what it is. You know, Like did he saying about
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it or he did?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And so in a way, if you're looking for positives,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: hat tip to cold Keith. He sat there, stood tall,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: owned it said, you know that the hop kind of
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: threw me off, and I don't know a better word
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: for it. I panicked. He knew how many outs there were,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: he knew there were two outs. You know why he
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: did that weird turn. I have no idea, and I
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: don't think he knows, like he said, He's just he panicked.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: He also got some criticism for not scoring on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: ball the left and the ninth. I don't I don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we we didn't look at this one to it too.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: On the ground.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: A third more on the charge.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: He comes home to get thee out there and Keith
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: with a hard slide at the dish. Too gone.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: That was the wrong video, never mind, don't worry about
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: that play. But there was a ball that left okay,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and Colt runs off the bat and then he freezes,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: kind of as JP Crawford leaves his feet, and obviously
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: that prevented him scoring a rose raine a shallow and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: left field. I think fundamentally he probably should have not
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: taken off. He probably should have froze seen the ball
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: through and in that case he probably gets held it there.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I think because he started running and Aj Hinchon. You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: once you start running, you basically had to keep going.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Colt said he stopped because you didn't want to get
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: doubled up in the game. Reality is, if Crawford would
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: have caught that ball, he doubled up anyway. I don't know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I just wasn't too upset about them that one. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: think it's tough. There's not even a guarantee he scores,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: even if he was running the whole way. Probably I
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: think Joey Kuorra would have sent him and then there
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: maybe it would have been a close play.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a textbook like straight on
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: single like a rose Arena. Didn't really have to do
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: much on that, and so like if there's a situation
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: where you're gonna get gunned, it would have been a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: hard hit ball to a left field any fielder, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: left a corner fielder shallow like all those elements. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: think he ends up on third. That's the result you're
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: looking for on that particular play. So all is well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that ends well for that play. And then we showed
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the video of him. Obviously nothing he did there, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: don't getting thrown out at home. Uh, he's okay though,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Like we know that that kind of situation, like you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: he has a guy cow following him.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: No, no, like oh yeah, as far as I know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: he was fine. Good job running in the grass too,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: made yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So like you know, it was like that was probably
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the more concerning thing was whether he would you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: get like a bruise rib or something from the guy falling.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: On him and and all that stuff.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: So it again, overall, it's been a your experience for
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Colt Keith because you have all this stuff like building
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: up and you're the first baseman now and again it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: only your second season.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: He's a pup, and you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Got people being like, well, look, if you're gonna have
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Torque on the roster, might not just play Tork at
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: first base.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Of course, that ends up happening because of tourists. Talk
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: about that in a second.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But like like like Colt's got to learn how to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: play first base if he's gonna be in the first basement,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and there's only one way to learn, and that's to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: play it. But he's not gonna be playing it here
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: for for a second because he's got to go back
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to second.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So it's just a lot going on the on base.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: The you know the walks of the encouraging part there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and and and also some of the stuff that he
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: did at the dish. I wouldn't put that base running
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: thing on him at all, like zero percent. And like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I said, the defensive play there is justa.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It happens, It happens, It happens, it happens.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the construction of this infield. And yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: tore is because I when the lineup came out Game
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: two of the Mariners series actually really or a game one,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: excuse me, I like chuckled to myself because it was
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Tork at first, and it was cold Keith at second,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and Riley Green was in center field, and I was like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: all this and we have the same infield as last year,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and all this about like, well, Riley can't play center.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Riley's starting in center second series of the season. It
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: is funny because in a way I get it. People
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: are like, when Glaver gets back, he needs to go
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to third. I doubt that's gonna happen. If we get
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to like August or something, maybe I think they sign
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: him to play second base. You want to come here,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: but the infield kind of does feel over. Assuming Torqu's
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: hit in a little bit with Torque at first colt
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: at second, and that would make you not have to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: play as much as Zach McKinstry or hobby bias or
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: whatever at third base. Again, I don't think it's gonna
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: happen right away. But funny how we're now shifted. We're
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of to work at first, We're
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of cold A second, j intercourse
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: did not commit to that being like the default alignment,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: because they're gonna mix a match and do what they do.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Underrated though, like we still it still feels like we
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: haven't necessarily gotten to No labor Tores really understand how
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: he can help this team. We shouldn't underrate the fact
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that they just lost maybe their second best hitter other
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: than in Rightley Green, Like, uh not what you want
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: for a team that was already heard.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again like.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spend a whole lot of time
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: like speculating on injuries. But like the aspect that is
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: standing now, Yeah, well that's the thing is like I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: just the messaging has been less clear. I feel like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the messaging has been less clear than in past years.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's just a reaction to said injuries is again,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it's not even me being like they owe us anything,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but it does seem like a little bit more vague,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a little less sure, and that's probably the nature of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: these particular injuries throwing the partner throwing, throwing beer Lain situation,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: but it it is just it's just a little bit
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: more weird. And yeah, you're right now, it's like you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: might as well not even change anything this offseason, like
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: or like or even like Parker Meadow's never like learned
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: how to hit it at all, and that we're just
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: living in that universe right now, that that none of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that stuff like manifested at all, because it is kind
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of like a throwback alignment, uh in a way.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So, but the crowd that wants like a little criticism
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: fair because you did have Hobby Bias and Zach McKinstry
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: hitting with the game on the line today and like
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: you do have these holes in your lineup and you
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: have reverted because of injury. Keep that in mind, this
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: is going to look different in a month. But you
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: have kind of reverted to last year's team, which isn't
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: necessarily like inspiring when when everyone knows you need to
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: hit the ball a little bit better, right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the hopeful positive.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Developments or you know, development that could be positive based
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on these injuries is that it didn't take long for
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Justin Henry mLOY to get called back up. Jessin Henry
• 31:13
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• 31:19
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• 31:25
  Speaker 1: hen didn't waste any time either, you know, hitting the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: ball when he got to Seattle. I know he you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: he had the walk lay, but he wasn't able to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: record a hit today. I want him to be the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: player spotlight, Cody, because I just want to see more
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Justin Henry mLOY And I I feel like I feel
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: safe with him in the lineup. You know you're gonna
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: get a good at bat and and the potential is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: still untapped with him, and like as you're trying to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: figure out like configurations and this that the other thing
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like times is you can get Jessin harm mclloyd in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the lineup. If you're a j hinch, you gotta feel
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: good about that. And like who knows that this labor
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: situation what the result will be. You know, how much
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is Jay hanging to play. Can he get some field
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: action to make you feel a little bit more comfortable?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but every time he's out there, he's
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the guy to watch.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like, Yeah, one quick note, the ninth ending
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: made me think of if you went from being too
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: left handed to all of a sudden you're like almost
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: a little too right handed. You have lefties on the
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: bench to like bringing in a big situation today, I mean,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I guess against the right hand starter, you're not really
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: gonna leave a lepsie on the bench anyway, but so
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: it's kind of palpable, like, oh, your pinchhit options are
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: your backup catcher and Hobby baias j n though, even
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: though he's another right hand, Like I feel a little
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: bit better about this team with Jay hen on it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: That was my suspicions leaving camp, and now that he's
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: up and he's here, he can lead off against certain pitchers.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Even yeah, he didn't have a hit in the third
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: game of this series, but pread yet bat was competitive.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Just you know, I don't I don't know, you know
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: how it would work in the field, but I think
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: this is a guy who deserves to be on this roster,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: and I think it took him no time to prove that,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: getting two knocks and a couple of walks on no sleep,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: literally no sleep in Seattle, first game in the series.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great story.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Uh and you know a guy that's easy to root
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: for and again just plays an aesthetically pleasing game. So well,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what I like, I said, Bandual Sports Network player spotlight.
• 33:38
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• 33:42
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• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Thirty for an extended free trial. All right, I.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Feel like we kind of covered a lot there, Cody,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: is there is there anything that we missed?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Well, like probably, I feel like there's there's a lot
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: of little stuff going on, but also a lot of
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: big topics. So yeah, there was there was a lot
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: of ground to cover. Good news is we'll be back
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: after the home opener.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, after the home opener, and looking forward to seeing
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the grand old party there in downtown Detroit. It just
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: feels it just feels like it's been so long since
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: there's been baseball in Detroit, probably because I'm not getting
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: any sleep either staying up to watch these games.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Udos on the West coast Man.
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