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55KRC Thursday Show - Warren Davidson, Concours DeVou, JFS, Anita Mitchell, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-555-KRC, the talk.
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  Speaker 2: Station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday Eve. I have no idea what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Neither do I.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just go home. Happy Friday, Brian Thomas right here.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to be glad to see Joe Strecker, executive producer
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  Speaker 1: of the 55 KRC Morning Show in there where he belongs.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad to see Congressman Warren Davidson on the
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  Speaker 1: rundown this morning. Coming up at 7.05, got quite a
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  Speaker 1: few things to go over with Congressman Davidson. He, along
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  Speaker 1: with Dave Taylor, along with other members of the Howe delegation,
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  Speaker 1: sent a letter over to Gavin Newsom. Hey, wondering why
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  Speaker 1: California given CDLs to illegal immigrants. This is a response
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  Speaker 1: to the crash in Brown County, killed in Ohioan. Add
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  Speaker 1: that one person from Ohio to the ever-growing list of
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  Speaker 1: people who were killed by illegal immigrants in our country.
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  Speaker 1: White House Task Force on Fraud? Yes, they removed 760,000
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  Speaker 1: fraudulent Obamacare enrollments. Tip of the iceberg. Talked about that
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  Speaker 1: the other day. It's a step in the right direction,
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  Speaker 1: and there's more work to be done. Veriting out fraud, waste,
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  Speaker 1: and abuse, a great idea, and a bipartisan thing that
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  Speaker 1: every politician should be interested in doing. Who else is
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  Speaker 1: coming up? There's just a couple. Good morning, Dan Bosch.
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  Speaker 1: He is the chairman of the Concours de Vue. I
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  Speaker 1: went to that last year as a first year at
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  Speaker 1: De Vue Park. Really cool, unbelievable view. And that's actually
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  Speaker 1: what they're calling it, Concours de Vue, dubbed the Concours
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  Speaker 1: with a View. Sunday, September 27th. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a great time. And Dan Bosch is going to give
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  Speaker 1: us all the info on that. That's at 730, followed
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  Speaker 1: by 740. John Nelson, assistant director of finance and operations
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  Speaker 1: for Juvenile Family Services, right? Apparently a caller bashed JFS
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the week. I can't remember the specifics of it,
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  Speaker 1: but he wants to correct the record, which you can do.
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  Speaker 1: They have a levy request this November. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: explain the reasons why he is in support of the levy.
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  Speaker 1: Anita Mitchell, she's got a book. She's an author. I
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  Speaker 1: love the name of the book. You don't look like
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  Speaker 1: an astronaut's wife. Former wife of Apollo 14 astronaut recounts
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  Speaker 1: remarkable stories in this riveting new memoir. You don't look
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  Speaker 1: like an astronaut's wife. From small-town beginnings in Medina, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: through her life in Florida, her husband was the sixth
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  Speaker 1: man to walk on the moon, Edgar Mitchell. Boy, can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine what that would be like, walking on the moon?
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, it is Friday Eve, so Jay
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  Speaker 1: Ratliff returns. Got a great list of topics with Jay,
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  Speaker 1: including which airline mishandled, i.e., lost the most bags in
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  Speaker 1: the first half of 2026, among other more lighthearted topics
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  Speaker 1: with Jay Ratliff. You can feel free to call. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
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  Speaker 1: That was rather interesting. I wanted to dive into this.
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  Speaker 1: Victor David Hanson broke down this article, a rather lengthy
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  Speaker 1: op-ed piece, about sort of like the November surprises we're
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  Speaker 1: used to, the October surprises we're used to, the, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, the broader issues that crop up from time
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  Speaker 1: to time, the, oh, my God, we're all going to
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  Speaker 1: die if we don't do something, we being the folks
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  Speaker 1: in government that want to control our lives, of course,
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  Speaker 1: This was an indictment or an attack on this artificial intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: this demand from the people responsible for bringing this technology
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  Speaker 1: to us to be regulated. Please save me from myself.
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  Speaker 1: He points out, he said, it's almost like saying, I'm
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  Speaker 1: afraid I'll commit arson. And then, you know, well, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you not buy gasoline? The point being, if you're
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  Speaker 1: afraid your company is going to make something that will
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  Speaker 1: destroy mankind, then don't do it. So you got a
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  Speaker 1: real big, big concern. Oh my God, the AI is
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  Speaker 1: going to kill all of mankind. Well, we need to
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  Speaker 1: do something about it. The uninformed scream and scream and scream.
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  Speaker 1: They're easily convinced by the alarmist that we need to
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  Speaker 1: do something now. And then we hit run headlong and
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  Speaker 1: doing something really stupid. He says, you know, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with all this melodrama? Why now? Why on the
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  Speaker 1: eve of the election? It's not new. Let's look at
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  Speaker 1: some of the end of day scares we've had in
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  Speaker 1: the past. He said, I was in 1968. I was young,
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  Speaker 1: the Nixon Humphrey campaign. All of a sudden, Paul Ehrlich,
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  Speaker 1: a Stanford professor, said we're going to be destroyed by overpopulation.
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  Speaker 1: The old Thomas Malthus book from the 19th century. He
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  Speaker 1: wrote a bestseller called Population Bomb, said there's no way
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  Speaker 1: we can get enough fuel, food, precious metals to feed
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  Speaker 1: the growing billion-dollar, billion-person population bomb. We are all going
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  Speaker 1: to die. Had a lot of bad effects. He observes
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  Speaker 1: people started to just have one child. In Europe, they
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  Speaker 1: took it very seriously. The idea was to have one child,
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  Speaker 1: adopt one. Now Canada has a 1.25 fertility rate. Europe, 1.33.
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  Speaker 1: disastrous consequences, and now we have more people on the
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  Speaker 1: planet than ever. Per capita income of the world population
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  Speaker 1: is higher than when Ehrlich wrote the book. Pivot over,
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  Speaker 1: nuclear winner, 1983, we're all going to die, Carl Sagan.
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  Speaker 1: He says, kind of like Paul Ehrlich, professor, cult figure.
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  Speaker 1: He said, we're going to have a nuclear exchange. When
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  Speaker 1: we do, the nuclear dust will blot out the sun,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll all die. That was in relationship to the Soviets.
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  Speaker 1: For a long time, they had short-range missiles threatening Europe, Reagan,
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  Speaker 1: said that's not allowable to bully Europe. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: put perishing two missiles to counteract your missiles. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: there were some standoffs, and all of a sudden, and
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  Speaker 1: what was going to happen within a year? There was
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  Speaker 1: going to be the 1984 re-election effort of Reagan. So
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the left said, nuclear winter, nuclear winter,
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  Speaker 1: we're all going to die. I remember them labeling Reagan
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  Speaker 1: the architect of nuclear winter doom. Hollywood made a movie
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  Speaker 1: the day after showing mushrooms dotting the Kansas landscape, 100,000
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  Speaker 1: people It was just a complete hysteria. Now or then,
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  Speaker 1: fast forward, they had climate change. Rather than global warming,
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  Speaker 1: it went to climate change. 1992. Who wrote Earth and
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  Speaker 1: the Balance? Candidate Al Gore. And during the election cycle.
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  Speaker 1: Why was it a thesis? Well, or what was his thesis? Well,
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  Speaker 1: there was global warming we were worried about. But he
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  Speaker 1: was saying that heat is a pollutant. Everybody's dangerous or
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  Speaker 1: deadly as industrial waste. Everybody is dangerous or deadly as
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  Speaker 1: industrial waste or ozone or whatever. He said we only
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  Speaker 1: have a decade or maybe a decade and a half.
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  Speaker 1: And the polar bears are all going to die. Coral
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  Speaker 1: reefs off Australia are going to erode. Icebergs are going
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  Speaker 1: to melt. And the Arctic Ocean is going to be
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  Speaker 1: too warm. And we're going to have difficulty navigating these icebergs,
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  Speaker 1: the endless. You couldn't get a place on the oceans.
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama's house in Hawaii, built, I guess, apparently, will
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  Speaker 1: be inundated. Then it didn't happen. It didn't happen. But
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  Speaker 1: Al Gore and Bill Clinton were elected. 2016, remember, Me Too,
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  Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein using the old casting couch, Hollywood producers, of course,
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  Speaker 1: sex from actresses so they could get a role, started
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  Speaker 1: out legitimately, as did climate change worries, as did nuclear
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  Speaker 1: bomb worries, as did AI worries. That didn't last long,
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden careers as varied as Garrison Killier,
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  Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh, Al Franken, a senator, everybody, if they did
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  Speaker 1: anything in their past, stole a kiss, patted somebody too long,
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  Speaker 1: hugged somebody, half the country was worried over the last
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  Speaker 1: 30 years. Had they said an off-color joke, there was
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  Speaker 1: a climate of paranoia. And it was right during what?
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  Speaker 1: The 2016 election. Who promulgated it? We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: in a minute, he writes. And then it died. Why
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  Speaker 1: did it all die pretty soon? Because Joe Biden in
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  Speaker 1: 2019 and 20 was a candidate. He was going to
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  Speaker 1: be the only viable candidate for the left. They were
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  Speaker 1: terrified of Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Pete Buttigieg. Just
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  Speaker 1: too far left. Joe Biden was handsy. A euphemism for
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  Speaker 1: touching women, hugging them too long. One of them, Tara Reade,
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  Speaker 1: came forward and said she'd been sexually assaulted. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton then earned renewed scrutiny. What did you actually do, Bill?
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  Speaker 1: And after you left office, we hear about Jeffrey Epstein connections.
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  Speaker 1: We hear about women on your plane and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden it disappeared. Me too. I could go on
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  Speaker 1: with COVID lockdown with a paranoia that ended up probably
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  Speaker 1: killing more people, destroying millions of lives economically, ruining education.
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  Speaker 1: I'd go to George Floyd paranoia after the death of
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  Speaker 1: George Floyd, 35 killed, 2 billion in property damage, 1500
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  Speaker 1: police officers, five months of looting, arson, destruction. What do
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  Speaker 1: all these things have in common? Well, they're melodramas, psychodramas.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, people like a legitimate issue and
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  Speaker 1: they start to use it to achieve a political aim.
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  Speaker 1: And it's no accident then that AI hysteria is happening
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  Speaker 1: right before the election. And usually, in all of these cases,
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  Speaker 1: the Carl Sagan nuclear winter, the Al Gore climate change,
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  Speaker 1: the Paul Ehrlich population drama, the BLM ginned up rioting
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  Speaker 1: after George Floyd, the opponents of Donald Trump who wanted
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  Speaker 1: to lock down the economy. They're usually used by the left.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, let's be frank. When they're all over, Carl
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  Speaker 1: Sagan is a household name and he's very wealthy. Paul
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  Speaker 1: Ehrlich is a household name and he's very wealthy. Al
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  Speaker 1: Gore stands out as any politician, supposedly very poor. He's
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  Speaker 1: from an affluent family. He is now a near billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: And the BLM people who ginned up the George Floyd riots,
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  Speaker 1: they're all related or they're all retreated to plush homes
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  Speaker 1: and use those monies that were intended to be non-profit
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  Speaker 1: funds for their own personal aggrandizement. In sum, when you
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  Speaker 1: see a sudden epidemic, a melodrama, a hysteria, just be
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  Speaker 1: very careful because the odds are it will be in
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  Speaker 1: an election year. It'll be ginned up by a so-called
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  Speaker 1: left-wing expert, and when it's all over, that left-wing expert
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  Speaker 1: will be pretty wealthy.
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  Speaker 4: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: David Hanson. Interesting observations. Do you feel like you're being played?
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  Speaker 5: 515-55-KRS-DETOX.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff, I see you're up there. I'm done with my
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  Speaker 1: little terror, this screed, whatever the hell you want to
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  Speaker 1: call it. Purging my thoughts in the 5 o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 1: Take your call right out of the gate and we
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  Speaker 1: get back. This is 55 KRC and iHeart Radio. 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: Pound 550 on AT & T phones. Yeah, I just,
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  Speaker 1: my point on all that, I think Victor David Hanson,
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  Speaker 1: Trump's on the right side of this. Listen, it's great technology.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be in charge of it. We need
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  Speaker 1: to do it and don't put brakes on it because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll get through this. Javier Millay, the Argentinian president,
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  Speaker 1: said the same thing. Man, he ripped the UN the
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  Speaker 1: other day. It was a beautiful, beautiful ripping of the speech.
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  Speaker 1: But he pointed out, he shares Donald Trump's vision. We
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  Speaker 1: need to be, we in the West need to be
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  Speaker 1: at the forefront of development of technologies. And don't let
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  Speaker 1: the UN or any other global organization stop progress from
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  Speaker 1: being made. He cites a whole bunch of reasons for it. Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Welcome to the program. Thanks for calling in
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  Speaker 1: this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Happy Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Happy Thursday to you, sir.
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  Speaker 7: Those crowd protesters cracked me up.
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  Speaker 2: All likely shipped in from out of state. It's Trump's fault.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff, what are they going to do without him? I
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  Speaker 1: keep looking for, I mean, you know, okay, if the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats take over November, and who called it the other day,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be one long impeachment hearing after another.
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  Speaker 1: It was Napolitano that said that. They've already promised it. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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  Speaker 1: I just, it's going to be this massive vacuum after
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  Speaker 1: he leaves office, regardless of who's president. And can they get.
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  Speaker 6: The term elections.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The term elections are coming up.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. We've got midterm elections and AI being ginned up. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, we're all going to die. Who's going to
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  Speaker 1: rescue us from AI? Is it going to be the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats or the Republicans? Listen. And there's going to be more.
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  Speaker 1: And somewhere out there, Maureen is nodding, saying, yes, there's
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  Speaker 1: something coming. And she's all over the October surprise that's
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  Speaker 1: going to blow everybody's mind. Hopefully blow everybody's mind over
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  Speaker 1: toward voting for Republicans. Oh, and sad. That provided me
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  Speaker 1: with an awesome opportunity, my wife. goes out running with
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: the dogs, and there is a person roughly our age,
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  Speaker 1: my wife's age, my age, who's got a dog, and
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  Speaker 1: she's talking to this person and asked this person, my
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  Speaker 1: wife did, about who they were going to vote for
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: for governor here in the state of Ohio, saying, are
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: you going to vote for Ramaswamy or Acton? Pause. The response,
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  Speaker 1: who are they? This is the world we live in, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: This is the world we live in. And then throw
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  Speaker 1: in a colossal catastrophe, we're all going to die kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing, which will dominate the news. That person, I guarantee,
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  Speaker 1: will know all about the, oh, my God, we're all
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  Speaker 1: going to die moment in time right before the November elections.
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  Speaker 7: Where's Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Fauci when we need him?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know. Where's Dr.
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  Speaker 5: Fauci?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Jeff. You have a fantastic day, brother. Appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: calling in. Yeah, get a load of this. Since Malai
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  Speaker 1: was there, he was on a tear. He pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: first off, the UN, it was an organization that was
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  Speaker 1: started under the declaration that all human beings are born
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  Speaker 1: free and equal and dignity and with rights. He said,
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  Speaker 1: those are noble words whose spirit I fully share. However,
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  Speaker 1: it is time to recognize that this sacred covenant has
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  Speaker 1: been broken. Turn the United Nations into a useless organization
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  Speaker 1: that serves only to feed a cast of fatally arrogant
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  Speaker 1: parasites disguised as well-meaning bureaucrats. He went on. Those who
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  Speaker 1: are supposed to guarantee collective security and human rights failed
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  Speaker 1: in their duty, and instead they allowed chaos, violence, and
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  Speaker 1: international terrorism to prevail. The so-called defenders of human rights
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  Speaker 1: supported bloodthirsty dictatorships and regimes that stone women to death
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  Speaker 1: in the streets. They systematically voted against Israel while remaining
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  Speaker 1: silent in the face of Islamic terrorism and genocide of
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  Speaker 1: Christians in Africa.
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: He also had to go with the United Nations position
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  Speaker 1: relative to the Falkland Islands. I remember when that issue was, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a mini war. Anyway, Lyon, what he
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  Speaker 1: described is what the United Nations should not have done
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  Speaker 1: but did anyway. He said the organizations created a bureaucratic leviathan.
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  Speaker 1: dedicated to dictating how the world's nations and citizens should live.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to these, oh, my God, we need something
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  Speaker 1: done on a global basis. This is a relatable point
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  Speaker 1: to the op-ed piece that was pointing out earlier, all
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  Speaker 1: of these global crises that demand someone's immediate reaction, which
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  Speaker 1: ultimately turned out to be absolutely nothing. He says.
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  Speaker 1: Malai stresses that it created a curious mix of anarchy, tyranny,
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  Speaker 1: impotence in the face of those who break the most
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  Speaker 1: basic rules, such as bloody dictatorships and terrorist organizations, and
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  Speaker 1: Orwellian control and imposition on liberal democracies that do not
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  Speaker 1: abide by the rules. He talked about the 2030 agenda.
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things the UN should not have done.
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  Speaker 1: including its contents on economic regulation, gender agendas, environmentalism, and
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  Speaker 1: uncontrolled migration. You mentioned the UN's response to the Wuhan
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic as another example, accusing the UN of promoting
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  Speaker 1: policies of forced lockdown that destroyed jobs, ruined education of
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  Speaker 1: an entire generation of children, and cost the lives of
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  Speaker 1: millions of people who died alone without medical attention. These policies, well,
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  Speaker 1: I pointed out, His words, global experiment for social control
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  Speaker 1: disguised as science. And then we pivot over to AI,
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  Speaker 1: where he points out he shares Trump's vision that we
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  Speaker 1: in the West must be at the forefront of development
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  Speaker 1: of these technologies, affirming that AI can transform medicine, education, governance.
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  Speaker 1: While such scenarios demand prudence, He said they should not
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  Speaker 1: be the cause of fear of AI as fear under
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  Speaker 1: no point of view must automatically turn into obedience. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty damn satisfied with his recitation of what the realities
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  Speaker 1: Over to the phone, see what Tom's got this morning. Tom,
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  Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite grandson is an Australian shepherd.
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  Speaker 1: All we have right now is a grand puppy, so
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  Speaker 1: keeping fingers crossed that maybe that'll be a granddaughter or
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  Speaker 1: grandson someday. That can't happen soon enough for my wife
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  Speaker 1: and me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, now that she's gotten married,
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  Speaker 2: now the clock is really ticking.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Getting those subtle reminders in there every now and then.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Listen, we had a family dinner my birthday on Sunday
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: for my Sunday birthday dinner, and that topic actually came up,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and Paulette and I are not the ones that brought
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: it up. So it is a topic of conversation, just,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you know. I'm just glad to hear that they're not
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: against the idea. A lot of young people these days,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: they're very, very selfish, and they don't understand the value
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of bringing people into this world and raising them. Not
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: only is it good for the child and it's good
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: for society, it's good for the parents. Don't you learn
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: so much about yourself and about life and everything, bringing
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: up a child?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and if nothing else, you... you learn a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: little bit about how maybe your parents weren't as crazy
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: as you thought they were.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And, you know, the other thing is you kind
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, I may have been critical about mom
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and dad over certain elements of my upbringing, but they
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: didn't know what the hell they were doing either. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: here I find myself in the same position.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: That is correct. That is absolutely correct. You learn to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: cut mom and dad a little slack.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Have a few younglings yourself.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. So, yeah, people ask me, too, sometimes about
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: being a foreman and stuff like that. And, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: how did you learn this? And I said, I raised
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: five kids. I said, it gets me ready for running
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a career. You know, I dealt with all this stuff. Yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: so good stuff. At the same time, you want your
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: daughter and son-in-law to make sure they do the best
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: they can to prepare themselves for it. Because you want
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to bring a child into a stable environment Um, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you never fully prepared for it until you actually have
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a kid and then you learn how to do it. But, um,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: you definitely want to have things set up, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to a certain point that way you're not, you're not scrambling.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: You're not having to rely on everyone around you to,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: to help take care of the kids. So anyway, good, good,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: exciting stuff. And I, and I, I look forward to, uh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to hearing the news one day. It doesn't have to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: be real soon, but I look forward to hearing it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, to, to real quick to, uh, What I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: actually called in on, you're talking about all these melodramas
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that come up in election cycles. And you're making it
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: very clear it's intentional. This is not just coincidental timing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Because people that bring this stuff up realize that, in general,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: people are stupid and they're gullible. And they'll fall for
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: this stuff. See, that's our fault for falling for it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: If we weren't so stupid and gullible... this stuff wouldn't
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: come up, but like, oh, we can use whatever crisis
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: we want or manufacture some crisis and we can get
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: them to sway this way or that way.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: But do you not think that that gullibility is the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: product of people's, well, misplaced reliance on elected officials, first off,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that they have a knowledge more than you and I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: have about any given issue, and two, that perhaps they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: are maybe well, self-interested, interested in something that has nothing
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to do with the crisis that we're being told we're
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: struggling with. Yeah, that's the stupid part. They've been influenced
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: by powerful moneyed interests that want to get what they want. Oh,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like in the area of artificial intelligence, perhaps, or even
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals in the times of a global pandemic. I mean,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why these pharmaceutical companies... Well, I'm
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: sitting in a parking lot of... one of the latest
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: facilities being built. And there's a reason why these people
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: have a lot of money. It's not because they got lucky.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They take advantage of situations. And, I mean, COVID made
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people very, very rich, very rich because
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: of all the decisions that were made. And we can't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: forget about that. You know, we just had an anniversary
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in 9-11 45 years ago. We can't forget about that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We can't forget about COVID and the way that the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: government and certain people use that crisis to try to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: control us and, like you pointed out, to get rich.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, people are getting rich off of the decisions
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that we are making in the ballot box. That's what
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it boils down to. We have to be smart about this.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: We're the ones that need to be getting– Hey, I
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: don't mind somebody getting rich.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to make that point. Pharmaceutical
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: companies get a bad rap, and deservedly so, because a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with government rules and regulations,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: inappropriately manipulating markets, but they are risk-takers. They invest billions
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of dollars trying to come up with something that you
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and I want because whatever it is we want is
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: driven by the fact that we're going to die from it,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or it's a real problem medically for us, even if
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it isn't fatal. So they invest in the research and development,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: risking billions of dollars with the hope that they can
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: provide a product that will pay for. I mean, this
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is capitalism. But if you rig the system one way
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: or another, or you lie to us as a vehicle
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to get people to buy something that they don't need
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: or that might harm them, that's where the corruption, the crime,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and the nefarious realities come to light. And that's what
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we're looking at as we look backward at the insanity
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that was brought about by COVID.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And not just convince us to buy something, but force
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: us to buy something mandated. I mean, how close were
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: we once Supreme Court ruling stopped a whole bunch of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: crap as far as making sure you had the job?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was working for the company I'm working
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: for now. I was working for them then, and it
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, we're on the verge of you
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: have to get a shot or you can't work for
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: us anymore.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Think about that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That was, I mean, we're talking within a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: month or two of that deadline, the Supreme court ruling
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: came out. That's how close to it. I mean, it's,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it's scary. It's scary stuff, Brian. And we got to remember,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we got to stay informed. That's that. You got to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: stop being stupid. Stop being ignorant. Inform yourself. It's great
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to keep up with whatever sports team you like, but
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with real life. Real life is,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The politics and stuff and who we vote for, that's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: real life stuff that affects you directly. We have to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: be informed. We can't be stupid anymore. And for God's sake, people,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Going back to my wife's conversation just from the other day,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Amy Acton and Vivek Ramaswamy are candidates for the governor
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of the state of Ohio in an election that's going
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to take place in the first week of November.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: There.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Now you're informed. 536. 55KRCD Talk Station. Don't go away.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Calls and stupid coming up. Talk Station. 540-55KRCD Talk Station.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday Eve.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: 513-749-5500.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: 880-23-TALK. Bobby, hold on. Just hold on a second here
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: because we were talking about stupid. And right here on
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the top of the stack is stupid. I think this
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: story dovetails quite nicely in connection with the people's general
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: level of ignorance with regard to political races. But maybe
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you think they still know what they're talking about. It's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the Dunning-Kruger effect. Hold on. Bear with me. Now, back
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in 1995, the guy named MacArthur Wheeler and another guy
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: named Clifton Earl Johnson carried out a whole bunch of
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: bank robberies in the greater Pittsburgh area. Now, this is
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like a look back in time because some researchers stumbled
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: upon the facts relating to these bank robberies. It was
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in the 1996 World Almanac. The robberies were documented there
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: because of, well, what you're going to hear soon. It's insane.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It's stupid. And that's why it's in the stack of stupid.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: So.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Two criminals walked into bank branches, just a whole bunch
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: of different branches, semi-automatic handguns brandishing. They had their faces uncovered,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: no attempts to even bother trying to cover them. Instead,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the two men had applied lemon juice to their faces
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: because they thought it would make them invisible. Gordon Wheeler
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Johnson told him that lemon juice was one of the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: essential ingredients in invisible ink, which meant that if they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: put it on them, then they would be, well, invisible,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: rendering themselves see-through, I guess. They didn't believe it. In fact,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: The theory was put to test. They smeared lemon juice
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: all over Wheeler's face, and then, well, someone took a
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Polaroid picture of him. The print got developed a few
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: minutes later, and Wheeler was nowhere to be found in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the image. Police, well, either credited that to him failing
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to aim the camera at his own face or bad film.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Either way, it wasn't there, but they thought that proved
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that their theory was right. So, Wheeler and Johnson went
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: through the plan. The only thing that went wrong, according
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to them, was that the lemon juice... made their eyes
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: sting the whole time while they were robbing the banks. And,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of course, they were captured on closed-circuit television. Police tracked
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: them down and they were arrested. When he was captured,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Wheeler reportedly looked at the pictures showing him robbing the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: bank and exclaimed, but I wore the lemon juice. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: wore the lemon juice. Five-year prison sentence for one and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the other locked up for more than 24 years. The
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: short term is because the guy testified against his partner. Anyway,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Mention it was mentioned in the World Omnic. This is
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: so dumb, it made press, right? That prompted Cornell University
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: social psychology professor David Dunning to look into it. What
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the hell were these guys thinking? He was working with
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a guy named Justin Kruger, hence we get the Dunning-Kruger effect.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: His findings published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette recently, quote, if
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Wheeler was too stupid to be a bank robber, Perhaps
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he was also too stupid to know that he was
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: too stupid to be a bank robber. That is, his
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: stupidity protected him from awareness of his own stupidity. They
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: coined the term, the two researchers, the Dunning-Kruger effect, which
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: explains a cognitive bias leading people to give overly positive
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: assessments of their own ability. Quote, when people are incompetent
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they suffer a dual burden. Not only do they reach
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: them of the ability to realize it. Instead, like Mr. Wheeler,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: they're left with a mistaken impression that they are doing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: just fine. There we are. We have a nation awash
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in apparently the Dunning-Kruger effect. Bobby, thanks for bearing with me.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. It is Thursday. I guess we're
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: getting it over and under.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Brother, it's Faith Black Fanny and it's Handicapped Thursday. That's
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: what we got to do today. We're conservatives. You know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: we're good, conservative, sweet, loving American people. We want to
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: be conservative today.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: There you go. I mean, your number is going to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: be low last week, two and a half. And for
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: those not understanding what the hell he's talking about, Bobby
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: calls the over and under in terms of violent crime
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in the greater Cincinnati area. Bobby, with that, what are
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you picking?
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: Well, we're going to make it easy. Since we're conservatives
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: and sweet people, we're going to make it two and
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: a half. Two and a half.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You're consistent with that. Last week, I believe it was
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: two and a half as well. And the over one,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if I recall correctly.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Always take the over in Cincinnati.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that answers my question about where you're going. Oh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and don't forget, it's Faith, Family, Flag, and Firearms, Bobby,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: which leads me to tell you today, if you want
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to show up 22-3 on Route 42 between Mason 11
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and my favorite gun shop, yes, I do speak for them,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: but I do that with good reason. The NRA bus
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: tour is making a stop there. They'll be there between
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: 10 o'clock this morning and 2 o'clock this afternoon. Keith
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Faber is going to be there, as is Frank LaRose
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and Rob McCauley, the running mate for Vivek Ramaswamy, who,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: by the way, is running for governor. Anyway, they'll be
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: at various times between 10 and 2. The candidates will be,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: but you can show up at any time. I hear
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that people really like to get their picture taken with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the NRA bus, so Wendy, good morning. She and Jeff,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the owners of 22.3, are really looking forward to seeing everybody.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I will be there. I'm hoping to be there sometime
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: about lunchtime-ish. So 22.3 on Route 42 between Mason 11
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and 545 right now. Don't go away. We've got more
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: stupid coming up, including what's going on in prison. Is
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that a marital aid, I see?
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Don't go away. 55KRC.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I heard.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Talk station. It's almost 5.50 at 55KRCD Talk Station. Happy
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Friday Eve. Strecker wondered why I wasn't going to talk
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: about the guy with the feet issue first, rather than the... well,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: what's going on over in the Dutch prisons. Real quick
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: on the Dutch prisons. They've got a new policy change.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Female prisoners, specifically, are being given sex toys in a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: bid to curb the rise of infections from dangerous homemade
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: sex toys. Thank you, Joe. According to the Belgian Brief,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: which is a news reporting outlet, I presume, policy comes
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: after research found that female inmates had been, quote-unquote, cut
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: off from expressing their sexual desires and that banning electric
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: toothbrushes was a bad idea. Go ahead, use your imagination.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They say without healthy and safe alternatives, women were having
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to improvise when it became, well, necessary to fulfill their needs.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: The report said, firstly, the current ban on sexual aids
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: deprives detained people of the opportunity to meet their sexual needs. Secondly,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: medical service staff indicate that the ban also creates health risks,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like fungal infections, because other products are used as homemade
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: sex toys.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Great. I see liberal policies going on over there. Joe
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Strecker suggested, whatever happened to the old-fashioned way?
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Anyway.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Here's the one he was suggesting I go with first.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Let's do it second. Indianapolis. Local boy, Joe. Man considered
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to be sexually violent predator arrested because police said he
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: repeatedly targeted female state employees in the downtown area trying
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to rub their feet. There's no flag for us. That's right.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: This is Dave Chappelle's fetish. only because I know it,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I watched the comedy special, not following the antics of
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle independently. Melvin Harney Jr., 56 years old, of Indianapolis, arrested,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: booked into the Mariam County Jail on a $ 5, 000 bond. Hmm,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: sounded like he was in Hamilton County. Court documents detail
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: three incidents in which female state employees targeted near the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Indiana Government Center in downtown. He's alleged to have touched
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the women's feet, which he later told police is, quote,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the most sexually arousing part of the female anatomy for him.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Close quote.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: Kinky.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That's that for him. At least he acknowledged this is subjective. Others,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: like me, disagree. Anyway, one incident, May 4th, female state employee.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Got off work, 4.30, walking toward the Washington Street garage,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: not paying attention to her surroundings. That's when the man
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: joined her in the garage elevator. That will be Mr. Harney.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Reportedly used his hands to grab the woman's backless heels.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: reportedly put his hand in her shoe and began touching
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: her heel. The woman told him to stop it. He
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: claimed she was bleeding and that he had a cloth,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but she wasn't, of course. That's when he allegedly grabbed
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: her ankle a couple more times. The elevator doors opened.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The woman said she then ran away, saying, don't touch me.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Second incident, on a lunch break, female state employee walked
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: into the Five Guys location, noticed a guy following her.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Once outside the Indiana Government Center, North He tried to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: grab the woman by her arm before she pulled away.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Harney is the guy reportedly bent over and said something
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to the effect of show me those feet before touching
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: her right foot. Then asking, who does your pedicures? Woman
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: ran into the nearest government building and flagged down some
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: fellow employees. Video surveillance showed Harney ran his fingers from
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the heel of her foot up to her ankle. Third incident.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Another female employee with the Indiana Department of Health. Washington
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Street parking garage. Walked to her car, 3.30 in the afternoon.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: He's a suspicious man. Harney approached her. She told him
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and asked her for the time. She gave him the time,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and that's when he continued to follow her. Then she
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: felt something touch her right foot. Turned and saw Harney
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: directly behind her on his hands and knees, saying that, well,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: there's something on your foot. Woman said she became uncomfortable.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Really? Began running toward the parking garage into an exterior stairwell.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Harney reportedly followed her into the restricted access stairwell and said,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: why are you walking so fast? And then left the area.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: They did review surveillance footage. They caught this guy, obviously.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: The 56-year-old was determined to be a sexually violent predator
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in Indiana, previously served 23 years in prison for sexual battery,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and was released by the Department of Corrections on GPS
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: monitoring early this year. That data reviewed by police later
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: showed he was in the exact areas where all three
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: battery locations occurred. Don't you love the monitoring? No real-time access. Well,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: at least we know it was him. We've got him
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: on the GPS monitoring. Yeah, but what were you doing
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: while he was wandering around? Anyway, he reportedly admitted that
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: he was the same individual. Well, there he is. And
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that he touched women's feet with the intent to satisfy
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: his sexual needs.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: You're a loony.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. Level 6 felony, sexual battery. Also charged with
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: battery of Class B misdemeanor. Three counts of both of those,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and then public voyeurism, a Class A misdemeanor. Well, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Joe Stracker's looking for a bright spot in all this.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You're right, Joe. At least he didn't cut off his monitor. 555, 55KRC,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the talk station. Plenty coming up to talk about in
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the 6 o'clock hour. And then fast forward to 7.05
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: with Congressman Warren Davidson. Be right back. It's 606 here
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: at 55KRC Talk Station. Happy Friday Eve. Looking forward to 8.30.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Of course, I heard me, aviation expert Jay Rattler. Fun
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and games with Jay Rattler every Thursday at 8.30, unless
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: he's on vacation. Anita Mitchell precedes him. The book, You
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife. She's married to the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: man who was the sixth person to land on the moon. Anyway,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Anita Mitchell, it's 8.05, preceded by John Nelson. He's the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: assistant director in finance and operations for Job and Family Services.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Responding to a call, apparently got on Monday, and I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: don't remember the details of the call, but then again,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what I did like two seconds ago.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Dennis apparently was the caller, and he was referring to
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: expenditures from an old audit, 2001 to 2004, regarding how
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: JFS had allocated some costs among different programs. That ultimately
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: was settled, but it has nothing to do, as the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: assistant director asserts, with what's going on now. was not
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: as alleged of finding that Hamilton County officials had stolen
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: billions of dollars from children. So he wants to correct
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the record on that and wants to also answer questions
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: about the Children's Services levy, a renewal with a slight increase.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So levies not all the rage these days, given the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: inflationary realities they're all facing. But John's on the program
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: 740 to talk about that, and that's a welcome, you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: take the morning show up on it. Correct the record.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: At least they're listening. Good point, Joe. Thank you. And
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. Concord View, Dan Bosch. He's a hell of
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: a great guy. Dan Bosch, car guy. My kind of guy.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Did the Concord View last year. We went, my wife
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and I. What a beautiful venue. And it's coming back
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: this year. And it's gorgeous. And Dan's going to tell
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: us all about it. That will take place at 730.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And preceded by, yes, Congressman Warren Davidson. We've got a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: wealth of things to talk about with Congressman Davidson. Including, will...
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Are we going to stop exporting diesel, suspend diesel exports?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second, but I just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: got to comically refer to this. I don't know why
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Baghdad Bob crossed my mind. For those who remember him,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: he would stand there and lie directly to your face.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: We are winning the war as American tanks roll behind him. Anyway, yesterday,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the Iranian president, Massoud Pazeskian, addressing the United Nations General Assembly,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: we're not pursuing a nuclear arsenal. We're peaceful. Here's what
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he had to say. They've labeled centrifuges, international sanctions, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: other labels when it comes to our nuclear technology. But
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: for our country, peaceful nuclear technology is a part of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: our inherent progress for our sick people. In progress and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: supply of electrical energy, Iran does not accept for nuclear
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: technology to be the exclusive disposal of some handful. The
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: problem is here, I'm sure you know this, He said,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: we will not bow our heads in developing the right
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that is inherently ours. We say it clearly, no nuclear
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: weapons and no limitations to peaceful nuclear technology. Our peace
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: will not come on the field of battle. Uh, civilian,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: does anybody remember civilian level enrichment for the generation of
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: electricity via nuclear power? What's the enrichment level? Five, three
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to 5% enrichment.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You need centrifuges.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: They've got them. Um, The International Atomic Energy Agency has
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: documented the fact that Iran has accumulated a massive stockpile
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of uranium, enriched to 60%, which they point out has
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: no credible civilian justification and widely considered to be some
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just brief technical step away from the 90% enrichment that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you need for a weapons-grade nuclear material. Anybody believe the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Iranian president? Right. Pivoting over. and I will acknowledge this
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: is a bit of a desperation mode move. Actually, two
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: desperation moves, and as you approach the November election, certain
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: problems manifest themselves. First off, the Trump administration is more
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and more suggesting they're going to ban exports of diesel,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and probably for 90 days.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Because they need to bring the energy prices down because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Republicans are getting all of the blame for this because
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of the war that was launched against Iran. Apparently the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: parameters are still being ironed out, but the problem is
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that it is going to probably ultimately do more damage
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: than it will help. You might get a bit of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a short-term reprieve, but the politics of this are global
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: because this is a global commodity. Diesel self-embargo, they say,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: is a bad idea for a lot of the reasons
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Republicans criticize Joe Biden's pause on new liquefied natural gas exports.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: We are the largest exporter of diesel, 1.5 million barrels
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: sold abroad every day. We get them from the Gulf Coast,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the products down there, and then they're sent out into
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the world. So proponents of this pause say it's going
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to increase U.S. supply and, ergo, push down prices. There
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it is, piling up. Apparently not enough pipeline capacity to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: move the diesel in the Gulf Coast anywhere into the Northeast.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And of course, California is completely isolated, which is why
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: they buy, yes, from the global market. California doesn't get
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: its oil from the Gulf Coast. It buys it from
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world. Diesel, they say, would pile
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: up in Gulf Coast storage because they'd continue to produce diesel.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Diesel production also results in Jet fuel production and gasoline production.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: So if you start focusing on diesel production, apparently it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: going to reduce the supply of gasoline and jet fuel
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that's out there. I don't know much about refining. If
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you look at the refining process and the columns and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: how the different products are distilled, it's a pretty amazing
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: thing from a scientific standpoint. But the point that they
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: are making, the oil producers, is, you know, we start
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: doing diesel, we're going to run low on gas and
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: jet fuel. And there's the political reality of it, too.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So limiting exports, they say, also signal the United States
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: perhaps an unreliable trading partner, prompting allies to diversify their
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: diesel supply. So when we start selling it on the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: global market again, then maybe they won't want to deal
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: with us anymore because you guys proven to be unreliable.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Remember that embargo? And, of course, the concern that if
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Democrats win the White House in 2028, they will do
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the same thing that the Republicans did, diesel export ban,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to justify perhaps reinstating Biden's LNG embargo. The world is
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: clamoring for our liquid gas. Once you start selling it
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to the world, they buy the hell out of it,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: most notably when you've got conflicts between Russia and Ukraine
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that are devastating to the European natural gas market.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: Huh.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: The issue, though, Trump said, you know, We'll just go ahead.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: The thought being, and I believe Trump suggested it out loud,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that if we ban the diesel exports, we'll have a
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: short-term reduction in the cost of diesel. That'll benefit everybody.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It'll be a sigh of relief in advance of November,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: taking that out of the agenda. But then the problems
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: that the oil companies are pointing out will manifest themselves. Well,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: someone said he's quoted as saying, well, that'll be a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: December problem. We'll deal with it in December, effectively. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it's acknowledged, I guess, by sources within the White House
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that the oil producers are right in how this ultimately
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: will play out. But I suppose it will provide some
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: brief short-term reduction in the diesel prices. So that's a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: complicating factor. You're going to get pain later for doing
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: something now that will provide short-term relief. You know, kind
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: of like draining the strategic petroleum oil reserve when there's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: no strategic issue to do so. What do you do
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: after the oil is drained? Good. Then the other one
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: we got here. Having a problem here domestically, Donald Trump,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: is the price of beef. We're all struggling with the
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: price of beef. Donald Trump went ahead and allowed some
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: increased foreign beef imports. Who did that piss off? Right,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Midwestern farmers.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So the some are clamoring with cutting back these imports
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: because the Midwestern farmers are feeling the pinch from the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: lower price, I guess, imported beef. Farmers having to deal
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: with struggling with fertilizer prices, of course, diesel fuel. Farms
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: use the hell out of that for all of their
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: farm equipment and then the shipping component is. Conversations about
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: partly rolling back the beef policy, a clear sign the
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: White House is trying to stem the alarm from the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: battleground and farm state Republicans as high prices and Trump's
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: tariffs royal their election campaigns.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So while we can all point fun, make fun of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the Democrats and their struggle to deal with the reality
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that the communists have taken over their party and their
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: moderate politicians struggling to sort of distance themselves from that,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: right here within the Republican Party, we have the protectionist
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: wing of the Republican Party that are forcing us to
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: put corn in our gas tanks and are, of course,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: protecting the American farmer from exports and competition abroad. Now,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one that has to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: make that coin flip or coin toss, but this is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: obviously yet another problem. and it seems to me importing
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: beef will most notably lower the price. It's a supply problem.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And will it hurt the American farmer? If you're being
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: protectionist over American products, yeah, of course. That's the other
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: risk you face or problem you have to deal with.
• 44:23
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• 44:25
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• 44:41
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the morning show. Happy Friday, Eve.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Hey, happy Friday, Eve, Brian. Hey, two quick things. First
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: one is on the children's fund. It seems to me
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: that there's, I think it was 13,000 children need help.
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: And God bless them. They ought to be able to
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: get some help. But my quick math says if there's
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: 13,000 children and there is a shortfall on funding for
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: these children, there's 26,000 people that brought those children into
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: the world. And if we just said $ 10, 000 apiece, which
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: is a steal because that's not enough to raise kids.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: That's a quarter billion dollars. There's $ 260 million if the
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: 26,000 people that decided to bring that life into the world,
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: if they can't figure out the life math of how
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: to pay for that, I think there's a garbage collection problem.
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: I think there's graffiti everywhere. I think the state of
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: Ohio could put these people to work. That workforce is
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: half the number of employees the GE aircraft engines has.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: So the way to help this out is to not
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: shift the burden to the homeowners and say, you're going
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: to have to come up with a shortfall. I would
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: love this guy coming on who's going to talk about
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: is the first line of defense to go after the
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: parents that created the child, brought him into the world.
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: What's being done there? What responsibility lies with the people
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: who are responsible?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I'm jotting down parental responsibility under my notes section here.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and if they are on some sort of program
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: and assistance, but I don't want.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: To hear I can't.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: You did. So now you have to. I'm sure this dovetails,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the child's need or the children's need for this program
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: dovetails quite nicely over to an issue with poverty in
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that family, maybe a single-parent household. I don't know. But
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: who is the party pushing for able-bodied adults in working
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: age to have to work or get some education, just
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: at least a minimum amount per week, before you can
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: get the benefits? In an effort to train them, provide
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: them with future employment so they no longer need the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: benefit provided by the social welfare safety net. That will
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: be the Republican Party and the work requirement that Democrats
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: don't want. Isn't it an odd thing, the idea of
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: work liberating you and giving you flexibility and freedom? You
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: are not beholden to the government to do what the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: government mandates that you do to get the dollars. The oppressive, well,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: plantation system of government dependence. Let's get rid of that.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Who's on the right side of that argument? We are.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: The conservative side of the ledger. If you're capable of working,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you work?
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: It's because I can sit at home and do nothing
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: and have zero responsibility.
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: I know we did.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: That shouldn't even be a system that exists, a default
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: system where I can choose to just sit on my
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: ass and not do anything to participate and let somebody
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: else feed, clothe, and shelter me. That's a real thing.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, for able-bodied adults that are not really eligible,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't be eligible for welfare benefits, especially with
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a job market as strong as there is now.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so if you can't pay for your kids, then
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: you don't get to make any decisions. So we're going
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: to sign you up to be an electrician tomorrow. You're
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: going into the trades because there's not enough of them.
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: The other thing is, real quick, what's the unemployment rate?
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: You hear like 3% or 4%? That is not true.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: That is untrue.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: Take a look at what the labor participation rate is. 60%,
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: which means 40% aren't even looking for work. The 3%,
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: you know, we put so much stock on this unemployment rate,
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: where 3%, that's 3% of the 60 that are working,
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: that are trying.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: To get a job.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: I don't hear any Republicans talking about this.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Does the labor participation rate account, take into account the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: choice of maybe one of the parents of these children
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: we're talking about here to stay at home like my
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: mom did?
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: If you are caring for somebody else, you're not in
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: the labor participation rate.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, that was where I was looking for. Okay, I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: want to make sure.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: This isn't like a percentage population. This is people that
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: are able-bodied, not at home, caring for somebody, raising kids,
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: or have somebody that has certain needs. No, no, these
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: are people of working. 40% are sitting on their ass
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: while the rest of us are paying. And by the way,
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: that correlates pretty closely to 50% of Americans are paying
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: no tax. You want to pay this debt off? Flat tax,
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: go back to Herman Cain's 9%. Everybody's paying something.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: And let's start.
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: Talking about labor participation rate, Republicans. And real quick, I
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: heard Matt Hoffman on after I heard.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: We the People.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I love that guy.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: When he was talking about how Huffman and Vivek and
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: Rob McCauley would not reduce gas tax, and then all
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: of a sudden Amy Atkins said it took a Democrat
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: to get them off their ass.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: She's going to do it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: I heard Huffman was on WLW talking the same day
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: on a Bill Cunningham show about, yeah, well, we just
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: need to get relief to the people out there.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Be pineapple.
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: This is the same Bill Hoffman that was on a
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: joint Medicaid oversight committee to make sure that the Medicaid
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: dollars were being appropriated. And he was getting extra pay
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: to be on that joint Medicaid oversight committee.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Fundamentally, though, obviously, when Amy Acton says lower the gas price,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that's when Ramos comes out about five minutes later and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: says the same thing. I get your point. It should
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: have been said earlier, and that's what Tom's been advocating
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: for for a long time. Out of time, Jay. Got
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to run, brother. Have a good one. Don't go away, folks,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: local stories or more phone calls, which is where I
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: prefer things, but either way we slice it. I want
• 50:34
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• 50:50
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• 50:53
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  Speaker 1: up in an hour. Anyway, over to the stack. Over
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to the stack is stupid. Well, it is local stories.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You can still call and rather talk. Sensei woman accused
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of driving a disabled victim to the bank and stealing
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: more than three grand, then driving off with his possessions
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and documents. Hamilton County Municipal Court affidavit says the theft
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: occurred September 3rd when Olivia Jean Frederick, 22, picked up
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the victim and drove him to Cincinnati Bank. Victim is
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: a disabled person with a traumatic brain injury. Joe, I
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: think we have an award to give out. Withdrew the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: $ 3, 000 cash from his account, got back in the car
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: with Frederick. He asked Frederick to count the money.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: According to court.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Records, after counting the cash, Frederick kept the money. This
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: is near the intersection of Burley Hills Drive and Sanderson
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Place in Indian Hill. Frederick told the victim that she
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: dropped the cash and asked him to help her look
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: for it. Victim got out of the car, and that's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: when Frederick drove off with the cash, his Chromebook computer,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: social security card, and birth certificate. Frederick ran just past Tuesday.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Her bond sat at $ 10, 000. It was yesterday a judge
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: decided a Warren County woman who was charged with sexual
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: abuse and animal cruelty. This is such a bizarre case.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Erica Grove found guilty of two counts of gross sexual
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: imposition and two counts of endangering children. In a case
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that apparently involved a former reality TV star and, well,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the sexual abuse of both children and, yeah, fun fact, animals.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: She was facing 12 charges on Wednesday. The judge found
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: her not guilty on eight of them. Back in August,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: she pleaded guilty to four counts of sexual contact with
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: an animal. Schedules for hearing today for the four counts
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: that she pleaded guilty to. Bench trial began before Warren
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: County Judge Robert Peeler... In a bench trial, no jury,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: of course, judge hears the evidence and decides guilt or innocence.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: In yesterday's decision, Grove was taken back into custody and
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: now is awaiting sentence. Her former partner, described as reality
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: TV star Tony McAllister, originally indicted on two dozen counts.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: They said an investigation began after Google submitted a tip
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children about
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: explicit material involving children connected to this McAllister guy's IP address.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: They're looking for you, pervs. Didn't know that, did you?
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: Huh?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Anyway, investigators say they later found evidence that Grove and
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: McAllister drugged and raped a child along with videos showing
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: sexual conduct involving dogs. Both charged with rape. corrupting another
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: with drugs, multiple counts of endangering children, and several counts
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: of sexual conduct with an animal, among other charges. According
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to the Warren County Prosecutor's Office, McAllister, arrested in December
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: of last year, Grove arrested shortly thereafter, both a quarter
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of a million dollar bond. Grove pleaded guilty to four
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: counts of the conduct with an animal earlier in our
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: late August, and eight counts involving the illegal use of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: a minor nudity-oriented material, as I mentioned before, were dismissed.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: What is with people? That's just so unbelievably disturbing. Anyway,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Hamilton County developing its 2027 Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy. They
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: had a discussion yesterday with members who are, well, actually,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: they were looking for feedback from residents saying, a county
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: official said, you know, we're here to talk to you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: about some things, but we're also here to really hear
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: from you. They do this every five years for the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: purpose of improving areas in job development, quality of life.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: And yesterday, the county presented the data through 2024 to
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: various community members in order to collect feedback from them
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: on what the residents want to see improved in the future.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Key areas of data collection that they do every five years, employment,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: population growth, advances in education, wages, income growth, and poverty reduction,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: as well as racial parity. Citizens who were there Responding
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to the data, one of the main topics discussed the
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: weight of the current economic climate on residents. Now remember,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: this is to be a Hamilton County project. One of
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the residents quoted by Brooklyn Andrews from Fox 19 is
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: reporting on this. There's a growing kind of disparity between
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the income people get from wages and the cost to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: pay for everything in this world, right? Well, yeah. That's
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: called inflation. And of course, no response to that. A joke.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Can you tell me what Hamilton County can do by
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: way of a five-year plan to reduce the cost of, oh,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, gasoline, meat, groceries, electricity? You're going to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: fall back to Tom. Just don't vote Democrat. Well, there's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: an answer. It's a practical solution. 636-55-KRC-D Talk Station. A
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: practical solution for you if you're living with pain. Don't
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: have to live with pain, necessarily. You could go ahead.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: And go the surgery route if you want, because I
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: bet you've already done the pain medication. 640 here, 55KRCD
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Talk Station. After the top of the hour news, Congressman
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. Lots of things to go over with him.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: You'll hear about the Concord Review at 730. John Nelson,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Assistant Director of Finance and Operations for Job and Family Services.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I was just over the Job and Family Services page.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: If you want to look at it, hcjfs.org. You know,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the appearance to me, and I'm going to ask them
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: about it, do they like the Claremont County Veterans Services
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: or any of the other veterans services? You know, they're
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: not providing the benefit, but they provide the guidance and
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: information about how to obtain the benefit. So any levy
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: where it says food assistance on the website, I was
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: scratching my head going, wait a minute, HCJFS provides food assistance? No,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: they provide the information and the link to help you
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: obtain a SNAP benefits card. That's the federal and state program.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: So you get the idea. Medical assistance, they help people
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: who are eligible to get on Medicaid and walk them
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: through those steps. So I understand the point of it,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and they facilitate these services, getting to people who lack
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the information themselves to know what to do or how
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to do it. Anyway, we'll get the details on that
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: next hour. Kamala Harris said this out loud the other day,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: talking about the NAACP event. It was rather revealing and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: sort of like, did she say the quiet part out loud,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: or did she admit that the Democrats cheat as a strategy? Hmm. Quote,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and so I think that part of the point of
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: view is how we critically evaluate our fight and the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: tools understanding that they have tried to, and in some cases,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: have successfully taken the tools that we've relied on for
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the past 50 years. We would be the left-wingers. They,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the takers away of the tools, would be the conservative
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: element in politics. She referred to the Voting Rights Act,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Section 5 and Section 2, which they were addressed by
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. determining the racial bias components in terms
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: of redistricting anyway. But the more prudent revelation, she said,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she goes, that doesn't mean we can't organize. They're cheating
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: with all this redistricting that they're doing. And I will
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: pivot over and note the Democrats doing the same kind
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: of redistricting. If you want to call a jockeying the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: districts into, well, jurisdictions that benefit your party versus the other,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: this is a universal concept. Elections have consequences, both for
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. Obviously, if Democrats are in control, they're
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: allowed to use the lawful versions of gerrymandering to get
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: what they want. Same thing Republicans did as a countermeasure.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Pivoting over to what else? They are cheating by changing
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the polling locations so that our elders that are used
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to voting at the elementary school down the street may
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: go there on Election Day and find out it is
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: no longer a polling place. Well, you know, much like
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: saying black people are incapable of getting a photo ID,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: which we know is just an outlandish, racially charged, insulting statement,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: she's now calling all the elders and seniors out in
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the world incapable of figuring out where their polling place is.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: My polling place has changed quite a few times over
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: the years, and while I don't figure myself in the
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: elder category, you get advance notice of it. Just another reticence. herring.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: And then the real revelation. They, that's you conservative-minded political folks,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: they are cheating by purging the voter rolls. So we
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: say leaders then to folks, not only must you register
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: to vote, check your voter registration status to make sure
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: you haven't been purged from the rolls. They're trying to
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: take our tools, but we are a creative people. We
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: know how to fight, and we've always been fighting against
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the odds, and that has never deterred us. Okay, so
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't that sound suspiciously like, wait a second, why would
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you purge the voter rolls? Because people move. People die.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: There are people who should not be eligible to vote
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: in any particular jurisdiction because they're not, well, lawfully eligible
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to be there. It's an obligation of the various elected
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: officials in any Republican or Democrat administration in the state
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: to keep the voter rolls accurate.
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  Speaker 7: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because you want to avoid fraud, fraud that's been found
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: over and over again. If there is any fraud and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: there is a vehicle to commit fraud, oh, look, there
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: it is. How is it that person who's not eligible
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: to vote actually ended up getting registered and voted? How
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: do they do that? Oh, well, here's the problem is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: we weren't looking at the registration to see whether or
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: not they met the eligibility criteria. Huh, how do we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: solve that? You look at it. It's like that Act
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Blue accepting contributions. They're supposed to have a full Social
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Security number to verify it. Well, as long as it's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: got the right number of digits, we don't care. If
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: you don't look for it, you don't find it. That's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: a tool of the Democrat Party. And these loose voter rolls,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and you have these states that reveal it. Yeah, we
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: purged 300,000. Really? Yeah, they were dead. They moved a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: long time ago. So we just cross-checked it and found
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: out that they shouldn't have been on there anyway. What's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: wrong with that? Well, you've just taken away a tool
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: used by Democrats to cheat. Or a tool used by
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: literally anyone to cheat. But if you can cheat, shouldn't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: you fix it? That's what the SAVE Act's all about.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Voter ID, not a problem, not difficult. So accurate voter rolls,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: photo ID, fraud, basically becomes impossible. And why would anyone
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: be against that? Well, I guess Kamala Harris just told
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you why.
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  Speaker 5: 646.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: 651, a 55-karat CD talk station. Congressman Davidson after the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: top of the air news. We get a comment or
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: two about him seeing the crackdown on fraud, waste, and abuse.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: As I mentioned, they're going to go after forcing voter fraud.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Trump administration putting new emphasis on investigating voter fraud as
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the midterms fast approach. Recently announced a whole bunch of cases.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Homeland Security investigative officials said the administration has about 1,600
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: potential voter fraud cases across the nation. They've already made
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: 160 arrests regarding those investigations with more to come. They've
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: charged 70 people so far in this administration with unlawful voting.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: 160 arrests, including cases that resulted in charges like false
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: claims of citizenship, false statements rather than illegal voting itself,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: but a multitude of different ways people have voted illegally, unlawfully,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: and they're going to find them. At least that's the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: promise from the administration. If you can cheat, then it
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: should stop. Figure out how. And that's on the heels
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: of this amazing progress over with Obamacare, another maybe tool
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in the left-wing arsenal. It was revealed consumers filed some
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: 300,000 complaints last year with CMS about brokers who enrolled
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: them or switched them into new plans without their authorization.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Why might they do that? And brokers get $ 25 per month.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: in commission for every individual they enroll. So as long
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: as they're on, every month goes by, the broker gets
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: an extra $ 25. It's a volume business. It's incentive to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: sign people more up, whether or not they're eligible. Guess what?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Get a look. Paragon Health Institute estimated the roughly one
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: quarter of Obamacare sign-ups this year improper. CMS previously let
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: brokers access consumers' records from Federal Exchange and then sign
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: them up for plans without them even consenting, hence the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: 300,000 complaints that were filed with CMS. How many do
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you think are out there beyond the 300,000 people that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: were made aware of it? Oh my God, someone signed
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: me up for something or changed something I didn't want
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: to do. How does this happen? I'm going to assure you,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and since a whole bunch of people were signed up
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that weren't even real people, they weren't complaining to CMS either,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: now were they? Trump team now fixing that. They promised
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to protect consumers and, of course, the taxpayers. Any bank
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: lacking those controls are going to be done by regulators.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal notes, remember the outcry from politicians last
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: decade when Wells Fargo employees found to have opened millions
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: of fake accounts without consumer consent? That's what's happening in Obamacare.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: But Biden regulators ignored it because of the tool in
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: their arsenal. Going back to Kamala Harris' statement. the political
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: imperative to increase subsidized enrollment. That's the point. And it
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: comes at a huge cost to the American taxpayer. And
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: that includes you, my left-wing Democrat friends. I know you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: wanted the best, and maybe altruism drew you to create
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Obamacare in the first place, but when you find out
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: it is being abused at the expense of you and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: your labor... It's being abused at the expense of people
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: who maybe really need something from government who are not
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: getting it because of the fraudsters and these guys out
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: here stealing from us. And, of course, it isn't just Obamacare.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: We all know every single nongovernmental organization out there with
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: his hand in the public taxpayer trough pretty much has
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: a perverse incentive to maybe rip us off, leering centers,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: for example.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Somebody's doing something about it. Now, if you could imagine
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: a world where, oh, I don't know, Kamala Harris is president,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: do you think she would change any of this? Do
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you think she would be concerned about the wasted taxpayer dollars?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Or would she be trying to protect those various tools
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: in her and the left-wing toolbox, like easy sign-up for
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Obamacare without any checks and balances? 6.55, 55 KRC Talk Station.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson after the top of the air news.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Concord DeVue with Dan Bosch at 7.30. I hope you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: can stick around. Talking about what matters.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: Things are happening in the.
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  Speaker 1: 7.06, Thursday. Brian Thomas, always pleased to welcome to the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: 55 KRC Morning Show. There's some you can be proud
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of and happy about and trust. That's Congressman Warren Davidson
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: among a very small list of those politicians. Welcome back,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. Always enjoy having you on the 55 KRC
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show.
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  Speaker 3: It's my honor to join you. Thanks, Brian.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Let's just start with the 760,000 fraudulent Obamacare enrollments, which J.D.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Vance came out and identified, saving the American taxpayer roughly
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: $ 2. 2 billion. I just have to observe, it seems to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: me that anybody who cares about fraud in any government
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: program could easily identify the mechanisms that allow for fraud
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and plug the holes in the bucket that allow for that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: But you have to have a political will to do that. And,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of course, allowing people who aren't eligible to enroll in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: any given government plan. Apparently, according to Kamala Harris, they
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: were among the tools in the Democrat arsenal of useful
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: items to benefit their side of the political ledger. But
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: this is, I mean, this is a great development. Is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it not getting rid of ineligible enrollees who literally are
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: harming every single American taxpayer?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is why. But, you know, remember,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Doge was partisan. I mean, you bring it out with it.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Department of Government Efficiency was identifying all the failures in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: the system that were allowing fraud to occur. And we
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: didn't have adequate accounting systems. I mean, small businesses running
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: QuickBooks had better controls than a lot of our government agencies.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: And when you started following the money and finding it,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: don't forget the audit trail that's making a lot of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: this possible. It came because Doge developed these new computer technologies,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: updated the accounting mechanisms. Not all the way.
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  Speaker 2: There's still a.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Lot of work left to be done, but people are
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: following it, following the money. We're finding the fraud. We've
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: created a whole department at the Department of Justice to
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: focus on this. It's kind of hard to believe we
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: didn't already do it. But now not only is the
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: fraud being detected, there are charges being filed, and soon
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: we will see people actually going to jail, which is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: still one of the most common questions I get in
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: this job. When is somebody going to jail? Well, that's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: underway right now.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it takes time. And I keep going back
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to the folks that scream out loud, like, how come
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: nothing's being done about it? Well, look, we just had
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: an announcement the other day, 760,000 ineligible Obamacare enrollees. That
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: could lead to some prosecutions. It takes time to develop
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: a case, gather the evidence, and create a file that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: will allow a prosecutor to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: That's a time-intensive process, and I'm willing to wait for
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: it to happen as long as it's being done. But
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: pivoting over to your statement, and it's true, the work
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Doge was doing, I think objectively nonpartisan, because what were
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: they doing? Getting rid of fraud and of waste and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I guess trying to ensure that the money that actually
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: went out into the world to fund nongovernmental organizations doing
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: whatever it is they were doing, that they were actually
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: doing what they were doing. it is they're getting paid for.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: We don't even know that. So how does that prudent
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: accounting exercise become partisan? Because this is the American taxpayer dollar.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: That does not bear a political stripe.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Well, they knew what would happen once they found we're
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: able to follow the money. Like, oh, all this money
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: is going to the friends and family plan for Democrats.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got laundered money everywhere. The nongovernment organizations
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: are essentially existent by government. Maybe the epitome of that
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: was when they had the EPA money and literally boasted
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: that they were like trying to shove gold bars off
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: the Titanic. between November and January to get rid of
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: all these grant dollars. And one of the grants, $ 2
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: billion to Stacey Abrams, to a nonprofit that had never
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: done a dime worth of business, except open a bank account.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of graft that was going on.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: And we turned that off because we found it quickly.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: And that That's gone on in spades. If you look
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: at USAID, the essential functions of USAID still go on
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: under the State Department. But they closed the entire department
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: down because this was a department that was using that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: money to do nonprofits counter to the United States' interests.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I talked with ambassadors in multiple countries. as
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, talked with ambassadors
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: in multiple countries who were saying, look, we want to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: talk to you guys about trade. We want to talk
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: to you about investment. We want to talk about helping
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: you deal with this migration through, say, Guatemala, for example.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: But the State Department only wants to talk to us
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: about LGBTQ plus issues, transgender issues, how to shift our country,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: which has a constitutional requirement that to be pro-life and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: no abortion, to be a pro-abortion country. I mean, all
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: these kinds of things are going on in country after
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: country with our tax dollars, actually worsening our impression in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of the world.
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  Speaker 1: So they're undermining the actual mission that they're supposed to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: be on, which is to serve America's interests by undermining
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: all things American. So I don't know if that's necessarily
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: a form of fraud, waste, or abuse, but it is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: a violation of the mission statement, I would argue. But
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: then I'm viewing this from the standpoint of partisanship, Every
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: single one of those things you just went through by
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: way of illustration. So it's their fraud, the Democrats' fraud.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: It's their abuse of the taxpayer dollars. So that makes
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it okay. I mean, that's really what we're left with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, they know a lot of the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: things that they're doing aren't popular. They know some of
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: the things they're doing aren't legal. And another example is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: their campaign funding. ActBlue has been caught with massive fraud,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: clear money laundering, structuring. They're taking large dollars, and they've
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: found mobile times where they follow what's reported in the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Federal Election Commission. Some little old lady that supposedly gave
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: $ 60, 000 to Democrats, and investigative journalists go to her house
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: and say– ma'am, did you give $ 60, 000 to Democrat candidates
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: over the last year? She's like, good heavens, no, I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: don't have $ 60, 000.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she's living off her Social Security check. Yeah, but
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: it's okay because it's their fraud. That's what's crazy, that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: people aren't aware enough that this is going on to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: go after the ones that are perpetrating this. Is Doge
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: still alive and well behind the scenes? We just don't
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: hear anything reporting about it, Congressman Davidson.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: It's still alive.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have the kind of momentum that I wish
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: it did, and And frankly, we ran into a little
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: bit of challenge with the rescissions package. I mean, again,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: you go turn any spending off, no matter how crazy
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: the spending is, Democrats lose their minds. So they're completely uncooperative.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: And frankly, we had some Republicans in maybe more moderate districts,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: maybe considered tougher races. They know Democrats and lots of
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: others love the spending. So we had a hard time
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Scaling back, we did scale back about $ 9 billion with
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: the Doge rescissions package. I had hoped that we would
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: be into the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: just with Doge, but we are finding it and turning
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: it off through a lot of the programs. You're not
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: going to eliminate the program on Medicaid just because there
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: was some Medicaid fraud, for example, but you're going to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: change the program. And so this makes it a little
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: harder to do with the mechanisms than just say, hey,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: let's have a one line item vote on defunding certain things.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: It really does come to getting the Department of Justice
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: to bring justice.
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  Speaker 1: All right, spinning over to your, you're joining with David Taylor,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: as well as other members of the Ohio delegation, sending
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom about California giving CDLs
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  Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants who don't even have a grasp of
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: the English language and therefore can't read road signs, among
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: other things. I know you did that in response to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: a crash in Brown County that killed an Ohioan, obviously
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: hitting here close to home, but it's happening all over
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  Speaker 1: the country. Did you get any response from that? Any traction?
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  Speaker 3: No, we haven't heard anything back yet. But look, Sean Duffy,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Secretary of Transportation, he's been very aggressive on this. And
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: why is the attention focused on California when we're in Ohio? Well,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: they were uniquely bad in issuing commercial driver's licenses. They
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: even gave driver's license to people, and it says on
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: the license, no name given. And they're catching these guys, oh, no,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: I have a license.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Because they don't say that in English because they don't
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: speak English. And it's not because we have borders in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: our states, right? The borders are supposed to be at
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: the national borders. So once you get a commercial driver's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: license issued in California, you can haul loads into Ohio.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: You can move to Ohio and be in Ohio, and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: you have a commercial driver's license. So these are the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: challenges with the, quote, open border sanctuary states like California.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: do have real consequences for states like Ohio. And it'd
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: be great if we had no sanctuary jurisdictions within our
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: own state, but we do. And I think that's why
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: it's so important, you know, is when Warren County, with
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: Secretary Mullen's Homeland Security, did this 287G program. Butler County,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Warren County, they do it, but Hamilton County doesn't. And
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: all this says is, hey, when you find people who
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: aren't here lawfully present, we're going to help ICE come
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: bring them in And you already have them in custody,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: so it's far less dangerous to the public, less dangerous
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: to the officers and everything else. You found somebody who's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: here unlawfully. Help us help them leave.
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  Speaker 1: Help us help you. Help you help us collectively. Don't
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  Speaker 1: go away. More with Congressman Davidson, including the connected... City
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  Speaker 1: Talk Station. It's 720-55-KERCY, the Talk Station. Brian Thomas with
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson going through the topics... Including the Connected
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  Speaker 1: Vehicle Security Act. Congressman Davidson, start talking about this. I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: just noted and I saw a couple of reports on this.
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  Speaker 1: The European market for cars is just being overwhelmed by
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Chinese imports. Apparently, already they had 12% of all of
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: the new car sales in the European Union last month,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and that was up 25%. The numbers just keep going
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: up and up.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 9: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're a lot cheaper, apparently, than the more expensive
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: to make because of a multitude of self-inflicted wounds in
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the European Union. So they flood the market with the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Chinese EVs, which may be the only ones that the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: European Union market can afford. But buying those comes with
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  Speaker 1: a security risk, doesn't it, Congressman Davidson?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it comes with a lot of risk and privacy
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: risks for sure. I mean, unfortunately, nearly every car you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: buy spies on you. And I'm working to deal with that.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: We've got a bill called the It's Your Data Act.
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  Speaker 3: It would turn off all the surveillance that goes on
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: your car, or at least make it so you've got
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  Speaker 3: to opt in. I mean, if you've got a signal
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: coming into your car or going out of your car,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: if you've got data being stored, that's your data. But
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: everybody in the brother wants to harvest it and use it. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think any company, whether they're American, Chinese, or whatever,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: any third party, should be able to do that without
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: your consent. So this doesn't do everything on connected vehicles
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: that it should. But China poses a particular problem. Not
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: only should they not have your data, they shouldn't have
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: your market share because how do they do this? They
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: have their federal government subsidize their car companies so they
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: can dump in below cost. So they're selling cars sometimes
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: below what it costs the factory to even make them
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: because they want to try to position their companies to
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: get market share. They've done that in industry after industry.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: And we can't let them wreck our auto industry. I mean,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: think of the supply chains. And, you know, when I
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: was in manufacturing, we had a couple hundred employees, a
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: huge chunk of them were devoted to making products that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: go into the automotive sector. And we need the strength
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: of that sector in the United States. We don't need
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: it in China. And we should learn from other sectors
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: where this already happened. And China has taken massive market share.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: This is why we're trying to reauthorize and modernize the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Defense Production Act so that we can reshore certain very
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: strategic industries. China was very crafty in how they targeted
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: certain industries. They certainly dominate critical minerals and rare earths especially.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: But they dominate a lot of chemicals that we can't
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: even make certain goods in the United States without a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Chinese supply chain. And President Trump and team have really
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: tried hard to remedy this. And that's one of my
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: big priorities, along with this bill, is modernizing Defense Production
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Act so we can get the focus on our own
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: supply chains.
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  Speaker 1: Well, relatively speaking, why can't we? I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: rare earth minerals aren't really rare. It's just a question
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: of digging them out of the ground. We've got a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: lot of supplies here in the United States. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me that maybe, oh, maybe nefarious Chinese
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Communist Party has been whipping up and ginning up the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: whole climate alarmism groups over and over and over again,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: resulting in environmental laws on the books and resulting in
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: NIMBY lawsuits and every other form of environmental rule waged at, well,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: trying to equal the playing field of the Chinese, like
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: digging out our own rare earth minerals. Am I close
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: to maybe accurate on that, congressman?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. Part of it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: is we don't have even a processing plant. We buy
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: up a lot of these things that are found in
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: other parts of the world. We get access to places
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: in Africa where you'd find a rare earth mineral. We
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: have a lot of it in the United States. You
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: can't even process it. So even if you do mine
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: it in the United States, you're shipping it, that's the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: environmental laws. But certain industries, you can't really do it
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: because there is no market price left. China has bought
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: up the market with the same strategy they're trying to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: do with EVs. The government subsidizes them below cost. And
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: that's why you've got to have some intervention. You need
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: a high enough tariff at the border on these goods
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: that you don't completely kill the market and make it
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: impossible to do certain things in the United States. I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: mean it's like, okay, I get it. It's fine if
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: I buy T-shirts from other parts of the world or something.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: But you look at your whole supply chain. You can't
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: have a country and stay as strong as the United States.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: And make nothing.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: You can't just import it. You've got to have these
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: kind of high-skilled, high-value-add jobs to keep our country strong
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: and resilient and, frankly, secure.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just contemplating this. Without a tariff, how can
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: you ever complete with a country that basically has either
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: slave labor or slave wage labor, no OSHA requirements, no
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: environmental rules or regulations? They just do whatever the hell
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: they want. Obviously, more efficiently, less money to have to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: extract manuals or otherwise process them. I mean, here in
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the United States, there's no way we could equally compete
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: with them on that kind of field.
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  Speaker 3: No, and I mean, this is the thing. Even if
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: you could, the government is subsidizing certain sectors where they
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: do it below even that low cost. And so, you know,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: there is a look. You don't have to necessarily do
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: everything in the United States. We can move it to
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: other places.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Apple did that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: They built up other options, but they're still very dependent
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: upon China. And look, I would rather do business with
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: China than see them as a pure adversary. But you
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: don't want to make yourself completely dependent upon a Chinese
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: supply chain. And I think in the United States, if
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: you do that, look, Ross Perot said there would be
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: a giant sucking sound of our jobs leaving the economy.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: People said, no, no, it's all going to work out great. Well,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: it worked out an awful lot, like Ross Perot said.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: And President Trump's the first president to come in and say,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: we have to do something about that. I mean, kudos
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: to Bernie Marino for proposing this first in the Senate.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Mike Kelly and a bunch of us jumped on to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: the House version. Mike Kelly from Pennsylvania jumped on and
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: put this version through the House. But Bernie Marino, I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: think today, is going to try to get unanimous consent
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: from through the Senate to get this to move. I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: don't think he'll get unanimous consent, but I hope he succeeds.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: But it sounds like it has some measure of bipartisan
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: support anyway.
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  Speaker 7: It does.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: That's a good thing to hear. We don't see too
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: much of that lately. Congressman Warren Davidson, I appreciate your
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: willingness to come on the 55 KRC Morning Show and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: talk to my listeners and me about these important issues.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: And where you are on the issue is also very
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: important to me and my listening audience. So thank you
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: for being who you are, and I hope you have
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: a fantastic week, sir. We'll talk again soon.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: God bless you and all your listeners.
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  Speaker 1: And back to you, sir. 726 right now, 55KRC Talk Station.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Let's go to a car show, the Concordavu. Dan Bosch
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: can join the show. 731, 55KRC Talk Station. Happy Friday Eve.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: And welcome back. It's been a year. Good to have
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Dan Bosch, Jr. If you know the Antique Auto Shop,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: you know that they've been restoring amazing, doing amazing car
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: restorations since 1969. And Dan is a true car lover,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: like me, loves the automobile world. And he is in
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: charge of, or at least he's the chairman of, the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Concord of View, described as the Concord of View. Welcome back, Dan.
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  Speaker 1: I love the Concord of View last year. It was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Well, good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Beautiful.
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  Speaker 9: We had a great lineup again this year.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Great lineup. Well, let us just start talking about the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: venue could not be better. What a gorgeous park and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: the view. It's just a breathtaking view and a lot
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: of space for all these cars. I was amazed at
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: the amount of space you had up there. and the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: car displays. Is it bigger this year than last year, Dan?
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  Speaker 9: We're going to have about the same amount of cars,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 9: but we do expect a bigger crowd because last year
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 9: we think we made a statement, like you said, with
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 9: the view.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, we do take advantage.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 9: Of the view, and I think the word's gotten out
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 9: that we kind of hit a home run there, so
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 9: I think we'll have a lot more of attendees this year.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 9: But spectacular cars, that's our goal, and we have a
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 9: lineup of some of the best spectacular cars that you've
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 9: ever seen. This is our second year out, and we
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 9: have nine best-of-show national winners from around the country on
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: our show field, which I don't think has been done before,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 9: let alone your second year out.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, that speaks volumes of the second year out. And
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: your goal is to really grow this into a nationally
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: recognized event, but maybe even perhaps a globally recognized event, Dan?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: That would be an amazing thing to accomplish, but we
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 9: have received national recognition. People around the country heard about
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 9: what we did, and they were impressed. And now they
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: missed it the first year.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: They'll be here this year.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, they will, and I encourage my listeners to do that.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: It's Sunday between 10 and 3 at DeVue Park, of course,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: in Covington, Kentucky. ConcordDeVue.com is where you can get your tickets.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: And Joe put a link up there on my blog page, 55KRC.
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  Speaker 5: Com.
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  Speaker 1: There is a charitable mission behind this, right, Dan?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: Yes, it is for the Northern Kentucky Children's Advocacy Center.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: They're located in Florence, Kentucky, and they deal with traumatized children,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 9: sexually abused children, and they see about 1,000 kids a year.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: So they're busy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do me a favor and address perhaps some of
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: my listeners' concerns who've been to DeVue Park about how
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: you're going to get people in and out in the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: parking situation, Dan.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: Sure. So there is limited parking in the park itself.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: There's parking in the neighborhoods up there. But we do
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 9: have a free shuttle from Covington Catholic High School and
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  Speaker 9: Notre Dame Academy, which are right across the street from
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  Speaker 9: each other in Park Hills.
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  Speaker 2: Free shuttle all day long.
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  Speaker 9: We have handicap parking at Covington Catholic. So if anybody
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 9: wants to not stress about parking, just grab a shuttle
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  Speaker 9: and come on up. We'll get you right to the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 9: show field and we'll take you right.
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  Speaker 1: Back to your car. Fair enough. And that's the route
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: that my wife and I took last year. The shuttle
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: worked great. Not an issue at all. Didn't have to
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: wait very long to get the return trip to our car.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what? I got to say, Dan, props
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: to the bus drivers. That's some serious driving skills, man,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: to get in and out of there with the narrow streets. Oh,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: my God. I felt like I was back in Ireland
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: with the tour bus driver and these little tiny streets. Like, damn,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: this is impressive.
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  Speaker 6: They did a good job.
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  Speaker 9: We've been told they did a great job.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's all for a good cause. And if you
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: are a car lover or if you are a car lover,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: if you have one in your life, get on up there.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: You'll love it. You'll be doing something for charity and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you will be wowed by those cars. I mean, those
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: award winning cars, Dan, I just have to observe. Those
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: things are showroom new. It's like they've never been driven ever.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: They're just in perfect shape. And I'm always impressed by that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, that's our goal, to have spectacular cars. And we
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: have a little bit of something for everyone. We have
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: pre-war cars.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: We have post-war cars. We have modern exotics. We have luxury.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: So there's something for everyone of every age. And every,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: you know, any car lover will be impressed with the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: number of cars and the.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Variety that we have.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and your placement of them, too. Like, if you
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: have a particular type of car you like, let's say,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Ford Cobras or Chevy Corvettes or, you know, Porsches.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: They're grouped together, so you get that concentration. At least
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: that was the way it was last year. Are you
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: going to do it again this year that way, Dan?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, we have 12 classes of cars this year, as
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 9: we did last year.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a great event. Dan, I wish you all
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: the luck in the world. I hope you have a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: much bigger turnout, and I hope it gives a well-oiled machine,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: because I plan on being there myself. September 27th, between
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: 10 and 3, DeVue Park's the place to be. All
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: the details and information on my blog page, thanks to
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Joe Strecker. Dan, good having you on the show, man,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: and again, good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Always Mark Station. Happy Friday Eve. Coming up after the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: top of the hour, we're going to hear from Anita Mitchell.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: She's written a book, You Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: She was married to the man, the sixth person who
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: walked on the moon, and we'll hear from Anita on that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Jay Radliff at 830. In the meantime, happy to welcome
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: to the 55KRC Morning Show a request to clear up
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: the record based upon a call I got from a listener.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I guess it was Monday morning on my birthday because
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: John Nelson, the Assistant Finance Director of Operations for Hamilton
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: County Job and Family Services heard it, and he said, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: that's not right. We're going to have to clean that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: record up. We have a levy. We're asking for a
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: renewal plus a little bit additional. He'll give us the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: details on that in a moment. But welcome to the
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Morning Show, John Nelson. It's a real pleasure to
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: have you on today.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, thank you so much for the opportunity to come
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: and talk about the levy, but also about the issues
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: that some of the callers have brought up.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: So thank you for the opportunity. No, I'm glad. Well,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: let's start with something, and I will first be a
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: person who falls into this category. Brian Thomas has never
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: had any connection with or need to use the resources
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: that are available in Job and Family Services. So let's
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: start with what you do there, day-to-day basis. An analogy
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I drew earlier, and here you can correct the record
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: to the extent I came up with some poor analogy.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of the various veteran service offices. They
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: don't provide the specific benefit with the exception of transportation
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: or something, but they will help veterans get the available
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: signing up for their VA benefits or getting the financial assistance,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: which is it's the vehicle that helps them get in
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: touch with the entity that provides it. So when I'm
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: looking at your page and I see, for example, food
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: assistance and you click on it, JFS is helping that
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: individual get connected with the SNAP program. So you're not
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: providing the food assistance. You're providing the resource to help
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: them understand how to get access. Have I got that right?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, kind of, and no.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll explain why.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I asked. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: One of the unique things about Hamilton County is that
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: we've got an organization that's triple combined, which means that
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: there's three departments under one department. Again, to be very efficient, right?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: Other metros in Ohio have it all separate, but we
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: have it together to lower administrative costs. So we operate
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: the public assistance side, which is what you're talking about,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: like SNAP and Medicaid and things like that. We also
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: manage the child support enforcement division within our JFS umbrella
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: as well. But that's not what we're here to talk today.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: And today we're here to talk more about children's services, right?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: And that is your first, the way I describe it
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: is they're the first responders to the first responder, right?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: So when you think about our teachers, you know, working
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: with kids and they see a child that's being abused
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: or neglected at home, the number that they call is 241-KIDS.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: And when they call that number, one of my staff
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: picks that phone up, right? And they go out and
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: they talk to the teacher. They talk to the parents.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: They find out what's going on. And maybe most cases,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: sometimes it's just, oh, you know, it's something that's resolvable
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: and we get it resolved. But sometimes, you know, we've
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: heard some horror stories in the news lately about kids
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: being abused. That is when our caseworkers step in and
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: make sure those kids have safe environments. And we do
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: that for law enforcement as well. So when our first responders,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: law enforcement, fire, go out to a situation... and there's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: kids involved and they're responding to the emergency around the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: adults and what's going on, but what to do with
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: the kids? That's when they call 241 Kids and our
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: caseworkers go out. So the best way I describe what
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: the Children's Services Levy does, it takes care of kids
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: in our community. Last year, about 13,000 children relied on
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: the children's services levy and the funding that it provided
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: in our community. So very, very important work, God's work.
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  Speaker 4: Our caseworkers are up at night. We have a 24-hour
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: call center. We respond to anything at any point in time,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: any situation.
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  Speaker 1: Great. Now, real quick here, because we're almost out of
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: time in this segment, I'm going to let you address
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: the caller from Monday and then talk about the levy.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: We'll have enough time to do that next. But real
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: quick here. We had a caller earlier, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a legitimate question. We're kind of wondering, well, where
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: are the parents? We always think of the single-parent family,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: the mom. Where's dad? How come dad isn't engaged, and
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: how come dad isn't shouldering the burden on these finances?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Since you mentioned the child support enforcement component of it,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: where are the fathers, and are they in any way, shape,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: or form, at least are people trying to get them
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: to be held accountable?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So on the child support side, you know, that is,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of state regulations that are followed
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: and make sure that our dads are involved and our
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: organization work. And again, I don't want to isolate dads
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: because sometimes child support is paid by a mom as well.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Just traditionally. I'm not painting with a broad brush. I'm
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: just using it as an illustration.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And so that definitely, you know, our job is to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: make sure, you know, whether it's whichever parent is the
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: payee parent is in compliance. But with respect to children's services,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: our job always is to get the kid to a
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: stable family. Because, you know, whether it is a kin family,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: whether it's grandma, grandpa, uncle, auntie, you know, we have
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: one of the highest rates in the state of getting
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: kids into stable houses outside of their parents when they're
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: going through a difficult time. So we'll work with auntie, uncle, grandma,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: any other adult that's stable in the family and make
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: sure the kiddo goes there and has time. So the
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: mom and dad have time to get their act together.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, but the kid is still with family.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: And that's always our goal. Our goal is to make
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: sure that kids grow up in safe and stable families.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. John Nelson, Assistant Director of Finance and Operations
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: for JFS. We'll continue with John. He'll explain the.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: 749-55KRCD Talk Station. Ryan Thomas here. And talking with John Nelson,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Assistant Director of Finance at the Hamilton County Job and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Family Services. The predicate for him being here is a
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: call on Monday. And quite often, John, if you're a
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: radio host, you take a call, you have no idea
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: which direction it's going to go or what information the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: caller's going to provide. I was caught off guard. I
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: had no way of saying yes, that's right, or no,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: that's wrong. But that quite often happens. You heard some
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: incorrect statistics. or conclusions from the caller. Let's talk about that.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: This goes back to an audit, I believe, that was
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: launched by the Auditor of Ohio State Auditor in 2004
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: relating to the use of federal funds that JFS utilizes
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: in programs that you administer. Can you just break it
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: down briefly? We don't need to go into the weeds
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: on this, John, but just explain why the caller was
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: wrong in terms of what this audit revealed and the
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: settlement that you reached.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it was an audit that went
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: from 01 to 04. And I think the caller alluded
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: to that somehow that money was stolen or lost or
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: used on inappropriate expenses. And that's why we were in trouble,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: so to speak. But in reality, what it was, was
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: accounting coding, because anytime you get federal money, it has
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: to be coded a particular way before it's been spent.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: And the folks at that point in time messed up
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: the codes a little bit. to a point where then
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: the federal government stepped in and said, hey guys, the
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: spending is legitimate, but the.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Coding is wrong here.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: So it was more technical accounting that we needed to
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: fix and we got it fixed. So in essence, What
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: was said was that, look, there are some things that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: you spent that wasn't coded correctly, so now you've got
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: to return that fund to the federal government, which we
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: ended up. And since then, we've gotten clean audits year
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: after year after year, and we go through an audit
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: every year, Brian, and we're always in a constant state
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: of audit.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: That's what I say.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Well, and I believe the predicate was, look, they ripped
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: off money. Why should we reward them by voting for
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: the levy? Is that kind of the conclusion that was drawn?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Because I really don't remember the call specifically.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was what the caller was trying
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: to say. And, you know, he referenced some increases over
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: the past. And, you know, the last increase that the
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: levy has gotten was in 2018. So it's been a
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: long time since we've gotten an increase. Even as costs
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: have gone up, we've tried to find internal efficiencies. but
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: last year we really felt the pressure. of a lot
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: of the costs and inflation that's been driving some of
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: the costs. And it's just, if you're taking care of
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: kids and we're working with 13,000 children, you can think
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: about what expenses are. It's hard as a parent to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: raise one kid. Imagine raising 13,000 or 2,000 kids or
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: how many of our kids that we come in contact with, right?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: So we finally started feeling some of those pressures in
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: the agency. And so in fact, working with our commissioners,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Earlier this year, we reduced $ 36 million of spending in
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: programs that are good programs for the community, but were
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: not mandated. And we went down to what was absolutely mandated.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: And then we brought in two consultants to study the situation.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: One was a financial consultant. One was a program consultant.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: Both of them concluded that we've done a great job of,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: you know, really being very, very careful with taxpayer dollars.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, they actually recommended a pretty significant
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: increase to the levy. But the commissioners, with their wisdom,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: you know, decided not to go with the consultant or
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: the Tax Levy Review Committee, which also, you know, the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: caller alluded to and said that they were, you know,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: people who just Provider recommendation and the commissioners went with it. No,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: this time around, the commissioners did not go with it
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: because they realized that the pressures that are on the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: taxpayers as well, and they wanted to make sure that
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: the amount that was going on the ballot was a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: reasonable amount. So the increase that is being asked is
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: $ 39 more per $ 100, 000 form. So the current levy is
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: about $ 79 to $ 80, roughly around that $ 100, 000 home. So
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: this will be an addition of $ 39 to that existing
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: $ 80 number. So that's what it's going to cost the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: taxpayers if they choose to approve the renewal plus the increase.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: The renewal is for the four-year 5.61 property tax, and
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: then the additional bump is the $ 39 additional. So you
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: said roughly you're looking at about $ 110 per $ 100, 000, somewhere
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: in that ballpark?
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: It's about $ 119 per $ 100, 000.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. I'm glad you came on the program, John.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know how the information got here. I hope
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: you were listening when you heard that. But this is
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: the kind of thing I like to point out to
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: the listening audience. You do have the opportunity to call in.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: You do have the opportunity to correct the record. And
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I welcome that, John. I truly do. People will be
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: able to decide for themselves. And I understand the commissioners.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: decision to back off the ask because we're dealing with
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: some serious property tax problems and maybe even a repeal
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: of the property tax. John, your reaction if the voters
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: ultimately put a constitutional amendment to withdraw all property taxes,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: what's that going to mean for JFS?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: You know, that is something that, you know, I hope
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: is not something that, you know, comes to pass because
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: it's not only JFS at that point in time. You
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: were talking about everything from public services in general at
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: that point in time. You're talking about police, fire. There's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: so many things at play. So, you know, I'm hoping
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: that whatever the solution is, and it has to be
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: a comprehensive solution where the state is involved as well,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: you know, ultimately benefits our local communities.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: That's my wish.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Amen to that. We all could use benefit local communities
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: for everyone. John Nelson, Assistant Director of Finance and Operations
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: for JFS. Thanks for what you folks do for these,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: I'll say poor children. One's heart has to break when
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: a child is thrown into one of these situations or
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: finds himself in this situation. So I appreciate what you're
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: doing for the children in this community who are truly
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: in need, John.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the opportunity.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: My pleasure. 756 right now. Don't go away. It's 805-55-KRC-D
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Talk Station. Brian Thomas here, wishing everyone a very happy,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: I call it, Friday Eve. And I'm really excited about
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: this discussion here. I am pleased as I can be
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: to welcome Anita Mitchell. She's the author of a book
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about right now, You Don't
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Look Like an Astronaut's Wife, Improbability, Impossibility, and Still Making
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: It All Happen. Anita Mitchell, she's born, she's an Ohio native,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: born in a lion. She studied at the University of
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: North Carolina at Chapel Hill University. but moved to Florida
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  Speaker 1: in 1964. While she was working at Walt Disney, she
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  Speaker 1: met a man named Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to
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  Speaker 1: walk on the moon and ultimately ended up running for
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  Speaker 1: the Florida House in 1978. A really wonderful business background
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  Speaker 1: as well and very well known. Welcome to the 55KRC
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show, Anita Mitchell. It's a distinct pleasure to have
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  Speaker 1: you on today.
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  Speaker 5: It's an honor to be here. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 5: for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my pleasure. And, you know, I have to reveal
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  Speaker 1: my age. I turned 61 on Monday. I remember the
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  Speaker 1: Apollo program. I mean, as a small child, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the moon landing, the grainy images from space and the awe,
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  Speaker 1: we were all overwhelmed with it. It was space, everything.
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  Speaker 1: And a little blast from the past, Anita, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you remember Tang, which came out because the
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  Speaker 1: astronauts were drinking.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, boy, do I.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: John Young. Oh, it was a must-have just because it
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  Speaker 1: tasted like crap. But, you know, oh, my God, the
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  Speaker 1: astronauts had it. And, you know, I had the little
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  Speaker 1: lunar rover plastic toys that came with Tang. But everything
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  Speaker 1: was Apollo. you were right there in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: all that excitement. What was it like at that moment
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  Speaker 1: in time being the wife of one of the guys
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  Speaker 1: that ended up landing on the moon?
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I wasn't married yet when he flew,
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  Speaker 5: although I moved to Cocoa Beach when I was 21
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  Speaker 5: and went to work for a small radio station at first.
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  Speaker 5: So I was from Medina. I was born and raised
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  Speaker 5: in the Alliance, but I spent my later high school
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  Speaker 5: years and everything in the diner, which, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: so blessed to have been from the Midwest. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's what kept me somewhat grounded.
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 5: And paying, living in Florida when all that happened, our
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  Speaker 5: governor had to call big press conferences because John Young
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  Speaker 5: had called it orange juice. And the Citrus Commission went crazy.
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  Speaker 5: The poor governor. And John was a character. Anyway, he's
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  Speaker 5: the one on one of the flights. He took a
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  Speaker 5: corned beef sandwich unbeknownst to NASA.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's about it.
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  Speaker 5: Crumbs. There's no gravity. So crumbs are floating everywhere into the,
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  Speaker 5: into the boards and into the racks and corners. And
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  Speaker 5: it was, he was, he was great. And then he
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  Speaker 5: was commander on shuttle one. And I was so honored
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  Speaker 5: to have Bob Crippen was the, the pilot, the co-pilot
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  Speaker 5: on that on shuttle one. He did a little blurb
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  Speaker 5: on my book. And he lives here in Florida, actually,
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  Speaker 5: in Palm Beach County. And so he was nice enough
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  Speaker 5: to say a couple words on the book.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you about the Modern
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  Speaker 1: Space Program. I mean, I think it's amazing what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in private, business is building spaceships now. It
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  Speaker 1: was all NASA previously. But I think it's neat. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's amazing. But it just doesn't seem to carry
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  Speaker 1: the level of excitement because it's not as new. The
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  Speaker 1: newness of the space program in the 60s was really,
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  Speaker 1: I think, what made it so thrilling. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: had success after success. Now, there were failures from time
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  Speaker 1: to time, but it was also fresh and new as
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  Speaker 1: a topic. And I think that's really what captured America's attention.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think now NASA has done a much better
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  Speaker 5: job if the media picks it up. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: they pick up as much, but there's so many benefits
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  Speaker 5: that came out of it. Mercury and Apollo and Gemini.
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  Speaker 5: It never got told, and people were wondering why we
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  Speaker 5: were spending the money. I think one of the biggest
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  Speaker 5: things that came out of it is all of us
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  Speaker 5: as young people and adults would look up and wonder
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  Speaker 5: what was up there and what it was all about.
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  Speaker 5: And for the first time in our history, man went
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  Speaker 5: up and looked up at Earth and saw how beautiful
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  Speaker 5: and significant we are in the scheme of things. I
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  Speaker 5: also think it's nice to hear you reflect that I
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  Speaker 5: find today The textbooks aren't talking about Apollo. You'll get
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  Speaker 5: stories about Neil and Buzz and Mike Collins on the
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  Speaker 5: first moon landing. After that, there's nothing. And it's very
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  Speaker 5: sad for me to see the thousands of people that
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  Speaker 5: worked on that program. No foreign, not one foreign part
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  Speaker 5: from all over the United States. And the men and
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  Speaker 5: women that were so dedicated. And our kids are learning
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  Speaker 5: that part of the space program. So thank you for
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  Speaker 5: your excitement and your enthusiasm and for remembering. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: hoping more people start to tell the story with Artemis
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  Speaker 5: coming up. And I remember Ed saying to me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: human nature, just by design, are explorers in one form
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  Speaker 5: or another. So that's kind of in our DNA in America,
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  Speaker 5: at least. And he always said we need to go
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  Speaker 5: further because he looked at planet Earth and equated it
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  Speaker 5: to a star. It's a planet, but it can burn
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  Speaker 5: up at some point. And he always felt that we
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  Speaker 5: should go further and explore and be able to live
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  Speaker 5: on another planet. I heard the other day somebody on
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  Speaker 5: one of the stupid things that you pick up on
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  Speaker 5: your cell phone said, oh, yeah, but our taxes couldn't
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  Speaker 5: afford it. I just had to laugh.
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  Speaker 7: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I suppose it's a question of priority. I got to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, at what point in Ed Mitchell, of course,
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  Speaker 1: the Ed you're referring to is Edgar Mitchell, your husband,
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  Speaker 1: the guy that did end up walking on the moon.
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  Speaker 1: When did you meet Edgar? The circumstances, how you met
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  Speaker 1: him and at what point in his career was it
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  Speaker 1: when you met and got married?
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  Speaker 5: I met him after he flew and I had gone
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  Speaker 5: to work. I was one of the first people hired
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  Speaker 5: that lived in Brevard County, which is where NASA is.
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  Speaker 5: to be recruited by Disney. So, but I stayed, I had,
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  Speaker 5: I had two children. I'd been married before and I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to stay in that area because of the, the,
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  Speaker 5: it was, the community was so close knitted. It wasn't a,
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  Speaker 5: you could go to a party and see, you know,
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  Speaker 5: your hairdresser, Neil Armstrong, the guy that fixes your car.
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  Speaker 5: It was, everybody was new, wonderful time to be in
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  Speaker 5: history and raise little ones because the schools were so
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  Speaker 5: outstanding and, So I commuted in the Chamber of Commerce
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  Speaker 5: I had been kind of a volunteer for in the
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  Speaker 5: community at Cocoa Beach. And when they heard I'd been
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  Speaker 5: hired by Disney, they asked if I could get the
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  Speaker 5: mouse to come to our– we always had a moonwalk
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  Speaker 5: festival parade the day before every Apollo flight. And this
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  Speaker 5: happened to be right before Apollo 15. And I flew
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  Speaker 5: on 14. And they said the grand marshal was Jim Lovell,
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  Speaker 5: who ultimately flew 13th. And Ed Mitchell. I had been
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  Speaker 5: a little kind of a reporter, not in the scheme
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  Speaker 5: of things, like a 5,000-watt station, and every now and
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  Speaker 5: then they'd let me go cover something. So I got
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  Speaker 5: to know most of the guys because it was a
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  Speaker 5: small town, but I'd never met Ed. And so I
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  Speaker 5: went to the PR person at Disney and asked if
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  Speaker 5: I could take the mouse. And he said, well, we
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  Speaker 5: normally don't let him go to hometown things, but since
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  Speaker 5: it's a launch– And there's been a lot of press.
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  Speaker 5: They said, yeah, try 3000. So he said, we'll take him,
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  Speaker 5: but don't let him talk in his little uniform. And, um,
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  Speaker 5: so I picked him up. It was a 50 mile drive.
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  Speaker 5: It drove him to a place called Georgia steakhouse, which
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  Speaker 5: is a little diner where the mayor and a couple
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  Speaker 5: of city officials were. And on the way over the
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  Speaker 5: mouse said to me, you know, Ed Mitchell single. And
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  Speaker 5: I just kind of gave him a look and said, yeah, great. No, no, thanks. And, um,
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  Speaker 5: We got to the place, and he had his little
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  Speaker 5: uniform on, and it was my birthday. And he pulled
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  Speaker 5: the chair out next to Ed and did this little
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  Speaker 5: dance and sat me next to him. That's how I met.
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  Speaker 1: And the rest is history.
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  Speaker 5: Well, later on that evening, we had what we would
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  Speaker 5: call STEM today, but it was a little event, not
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  Speaker 5: black tie. We didn't know black tie in Cuckoo Ridge,
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  Speaker 5: but a big event, and all the astronauts came, and
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  Speaker 5: the money went to kids scholarships for kids that wanted
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  Speaker 5: to be engineers. And Ed came in and a friend
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  Speaker 5: of mine was running the thing and had everybody sing
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  Speaker 5: happy birthday. He came over and asked me to dance.
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  Speaker 5: And at the end of the dance, he said, well,
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  Speaker 5: if I wanted to call you, how would I find you?
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  Speaker 5: And I thought, oh, brother. I said, you can just
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  Speaker 5: call the mouse. And he did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So he had to work on it. He had to
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  Speaker 1: win you over. I love that. That's outstanding. Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: like my wife with me. My wife said no when
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  Speaker 1: I asked her out, I think, two or three times
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  Speaker 1: in a row before. She finally ended up saying okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I like a challenge. It sounds like Ed did too.
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  Speaker 1: I just have to know, because when I think about
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  Speaker 1: space travel, it's like when your spouse is deployed to
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  Speaker 1: a war, staying at home has got to be really,
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  Speaker 1: really worrying. You don't know what's going on at any
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  Speaker 1: moment in time. So the stress has got to be overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know, did you ever talk to Ed
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  Speaker 1: about what it's like being inside, you know, the tin can,
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  Speaker 1: if I can refer to it, the David Bowie way
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  Speaker 1: of referring to it? Because, you know, you are beholden
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  Speaker 1: to technology. You are hell and gone from anywhere. And
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  Speaker 1: the likelihood of death seems to be pretty overwhelming because
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  Speaker 1: anything that goes wrong is going to end in that result.
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  Speaker 1: What's it like from a stress standpoint for an astronaut
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  Speaker 1: being out in space? Do you recall that? Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you a funny story. In typical Ed, first
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  Speaker 5: of all, back up a little bit. Ed started washing
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  Speaker 5: cup dusters from his hometown in Texas when he was
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  Speaker 5: like 11 for flying time. So he learned to fly early.
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  Speaker 5: And then he got a scholarship to Caltech or Carnegie Mellon.
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  Speaker 5: He chose Carnegie Mellon. He went to go east. And
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  Speaker 5: from there, Stutnick, in that period of time, he knew
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  Speaker 5: men were going to go to the moon. So he
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  Speaker 5: went to MIT. picked up two PhDs, became a test pilot,
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  Speaker 5: fighter pilot in Korea, graduated number one from the Navy
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  Speaker 5: post-grad school, joined the Navy, and was the third group
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  Speaker 5: of astronauts that came in. And he told me, as
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  Speaker 5: far as the flight, and this is so typical of
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  Speaker 5: his temperament, there was a weather hold at his launch.
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  Speaker 5: And I went to every launch anyway, because it was
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  Speaker 5: a small town and I had a little radio thing going,
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  Speaker 5: so people kind of felt sorry for me and the
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  Speaker 5: kids and always included us, which was beyond lovely. And
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  Speaker 5: so I said, what did you do during the 45-minute
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  Speaker 5: weather launch? And I remember we were with Al Shepard
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  Speaker 5: and his wife, Louise, and Al said, you tell her.
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  Speaker 5: He said, well, I took a little nap. I said,
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  Speaker 5: you what? He said, I fell asleep. I wasn't falling
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  Speaker 5: asleep if I got to go to New York, of course.
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  Speaker 5: I was from a diner, so anything was a big
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  Speaker 5: deal after that. And Ed, he said, well, what else
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  Speaker 5: are you going to do? And then people would ask
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  Speaker 5: him what the ride was like, and he said it
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  Speaker 5: was like being kind of in a roller coaster, only vertical,
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  Speaker 5: and it was shake, rattle, and roll through all the three,
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  Speaker 5: four stages. And on the moon, of course, there's no gravity,
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  Speaker 5: so you hop and And people probably remember that. Remember
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  Speaker 5: the Apollo 14 flight, Al Shepard hit a golf ball.
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  Speaker 7: I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
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  Speaker 5: And Ed was so annoyed. He said to me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I threw a javelin and nobody noticed. And I looked
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  Speaker 5: at him and said, probably four javelin throwers in the
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  Speaker 5: entire world. There's a few more golfers, Ed. You know,
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  Speaker 5: and Alan used to say that, ask him how far
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  Speaker 5: it went. He'd say around, around the, The moon three times,
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  Speaker 5: and then he didn't know how much further, so that
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  Speaker 5: was always a fun kind of story for me. And,
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  Speaker 5: of course, Ed did the ESP experiments on the moon
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  Speaker 5: that was supposed to be private, but somebody leaked it,
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  Speaker 5: and that was what he became so very famous for.
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  Speaker 1: ESP as an extrasensory perception?
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, you're going to have to enlighten me
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  Speaker 1: on that one.
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  Speaker 5: He was very interested, along with Rene Van Buren, Von
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  Speaker 5: Braun was very interested in dreams and what made dreams,
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  Speaker 5: the mind, and became interested before his flight, actually. He
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  Speaker 5: was working with some physicists about does extrasensory perception isn't
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  Speaker 5: capable at long distances. And so when you get outside,
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  Speaker 5: I don't– believe me, I flunk physics, but I'm a
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  Speaker 5: good parent– When you get outside the Earth's gravity, you
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  Speaker 5: leave the magnetic field. So it would be interesting to
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  Speaker 5: find out if they did an experiment of telepathy, did
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  Speaker 5: it exist at that long distance?
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  Speaker 1: That's the connection. Okay, I was waiting to see. Wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, why would it be any different on the
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  Speaker 1: moon than on Earth in terms of ESP? Well, there
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  Speaker 1: you go, the magnetic field component. At least it's a theory. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you, the name of the book, You
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  Speaker 1: Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife, Improbability, a Possibility of
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  Speaker 1: Still Making It All Happen, what's the connection with that one?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I remembered it because I thought it was funny,
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  Speaker 5: but about 30% of the time, no matter where we were,
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  Speaker 5: we could be on Knob Hill Society or in Palm
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  Speaker 5: Beach in a black tie or the Fourth of July
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  Speaker 5: Parade in Kansas. And we'd be in the receiving line,
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  Speaker 5: and they would give Ed's full credentials, Navy captain, and
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  Speaker 5: they'd get to me and they'd say, and this is
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  Speaker 5: the nice wife of the astronaut. And so I would say,
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  Speaker 5: how do you do? And about 30% of the time,
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  Speaker 5: women particularly, and they never meant it mean at all,
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  Speaker 5: but they'd say, really, you don't look like an astronaut's wife.
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  Speaker 5: And the press a couple of times caught it and
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  Speaker 5: asked me, what are you supposed to look like?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: They mean it nicely. I think they don't know quite
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  Speaker 5: what to say because I didn't go to the moon.
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  Speaker 5: And after Ed's credentials, I just leave it to the
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  Speaker 5: eyes of the beholder that I thought was very funny.
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  Speaker 5: And so I thought it'd be a good name for
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  Speaker 5: the book.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. Anita Mitchell, she's the author of the book
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about. You Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife
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  Speaker 1: and Probability and Possibility and Still Making It All Happen.
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  Speaker 1: If you could just boil it down to one thing,
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  Speaker 1: what is the most prominent thing about being the wife
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  Speaker 1: of an astronaut, that particular period of time and all
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  Speaker 1: the excitement with the the various programs, Gemini and Apollo
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  Speaker 1: et al. If you could take away one thing, what
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  Speaker 1: would be the pinnacle? What is the fondest recollection you
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  Speaker 1: have of that period?
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  Speaker 5: I think what I learned, the perspective that it isn't
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  Speaker 5: seeing is believing. It's believing is seeing. Opening my mind
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  Speaker 5: is so many things, being married to dad, because he
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  Speaker 5: was very involved in the future of from the eyeball
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  Speaker 5: in and studied the mind and preventive medicine and all
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: those things. And then raising three children in that environment
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  Speaker 5: and keeping my Ohio values and my feet on the
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  Speaker 5: ground probably was the biggest challenge for me.
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  Speaker 1: And as we part company today, my listeners will enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I can tell them that you were
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  Speaker 1: elected chairman of the Republican Party of Palm Beach County.
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  Speaker 1: They love your politics on top of you. Anita Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: this has been a real pleasure. I am so pleased
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  Speaker 1: you wrote the book and I'm glad to share my
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  Speaker 1: excitement for the program. You brought back a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of memories in talking with you about the book. What
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  Speaker 1: we've done is made it really easy to get your book.
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  Speaker 1: It's a link on my blog page at 55KRC. com. So
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: people click on it, buy a book, and I know
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  Speaker 1: they will. It's going to be a great read. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for your time today, and thank you for your
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  Speaker 1: service overall to our country.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, and thank you for your patriotism and your love
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  Speaker 5: for what we did. We can thank President Trump for
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  Speaker 5: the program continuing because it was done starting with Obama
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  Speaker 5: and Biden killed the budget. So that's not a political statement.
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  Speaker 5: That's an American statement.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's also a factual statement. Anita Mitchell, it's been great.
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  Speaker 1: You stay on station. 830-55-KRCD Talk Station. All is right
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  Speaker 1: with the world. We'll keep our fingers crossed for a
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: good cellular connection because iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff is
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: out traveling. Great to hear from you, Jay. We'll keep
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: our fingers crossed. It's always a pleasure to have you
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  Speaker 1: on the program.
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  Speaker 6: Brian, this is one I've been fighting for all week
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  Speaker 6: to make work, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds good. You're coming in clear now. Let's
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: knock wood and move forward. Hey, real quick, Jay, since
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  Speaker 1: I just got off the phone with the wife of
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: Ed Mitchell, she wrote a book called You Don't Look
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Like an Astronaut's Wife. But this was in the early
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Apollo program, and I was just having all of these
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: beautiful flashbacks from when I was a little kid. I mean,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: I ate up everything, space. All the toys I asked
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: for for Christmas were Apollo this or Gemini that. And
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: I remember this lunar rover I got with the Tang jar.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: We used to have to have Tang because the astronauts
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: drank it. You're just a little bit older than me.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Do you remember just being overwhelmed and excited during that
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: period of time?
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  Speaker 6: I did, but, you know, I was nine years old
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  Speaker 6: when we landed on the moon.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And it was like, okay, you know, but it wasn't
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: until I became a teenager and I really started to
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: eat a lot of that stuff up years later because
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: it became more and more, you know, something endearing to me. Like,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 6: what's a space shuttle? I was in high school when
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: they had the Columbia land and, you know, when they
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: were doing the test flight and everything. And I thought,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is the greatest thing ever. And, of course,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 6: when they named the first one Enterprise, they hooked me
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: for sure because But it was, you know, anything that
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 6: if we ever had an astronaut that was flying through
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: the airport, they immediately went from the check-in counter to
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: my office because I wanted them to relax. No, I
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 6: wanted them in there to talk to me so that
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 6: I could talk to them before their flight left. Because, yeah,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: it was just, you know, most of these people, and,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 6: you know, I've known a lot of astronauts over the years.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 6: They're not so much about talking about their past accomplishments.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: They were all excited about the future. And we really
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 6: had a drop off after Gemini and Mercury and Apollo
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 6: and where things just kind of didn't do anything for decades.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 6: And thank God we've got people right now that are
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: investing in space explorations where Mars is a possibility. And
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 6: we continue to look at the.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: Going to be a.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 6: Boon in a lot of different ways. So I love it.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: I'm just glad that we're around to see it. And
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about my grandmother when she passed away
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 6: a number of years ago at 101, all this that
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 6: she had seen in the course of her life and
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 6: just how much stuff has happened just in the last
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 6: 50 years.
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. Anyway, I'm glad you took that.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: You were able to walk down memory lane with me
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: because I'm still having all these just great memories. Now
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: let us pivot over to a good piece of consumer
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: information coming from Jay Routlet this morning. the airline that mishandled, i.e.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: lost the most bags in the first half of this
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: calendar year.
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  Speaker 7: Jay?
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  Speaker 6: United, big time. I mean, they were losing. Well, we
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 6: can't use the term loss because that means they can't
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 6: find it for like 90 days. They've misplaced. That's the
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: term we use in the industry. It's not lost. We
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 6: just misplaced it somewhere. But United by far was the
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 6: number one airline as far as the first half of
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 6: the year, losing 276,000 bags, but it was like 6.7
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 6: bags per thousand lost. that were misplaced. American Airlines came
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 6: in a very close second, Alaska Airlines third. I think
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 6: Frontier came in fourth or fifth. The best airline that
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 6: was like number nine, they were the one that lost
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: the least, was Allegiant. And it makes sense though, Brian,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 6: because Allegiant has a lot of nonstop flights, point to point,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: not a lot of connecting flights. But yeah, Spirit, Spirit
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 6: came in fifth. That's the one that struck me as
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 6: kind of weird. They're no longer flying and they did
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: better than a lot of carriers did. But You know,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 6: a lot of consumers right now are dropping those air
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 6: tags in their bags.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 6: That way they can track where their bag is at.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 6: And I can tell you from the airline side of things,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 6: it's something when the passenger knows more about where their
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 6: bag is than the agent. And they'll take that information
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 6: if they say, look, This may not mean anything, but
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 6: I know I'm in Cincinnati. My bag appears to be
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 6: in Boston. Well, now the agent can contact the bag
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 6: reps in Boston and they can try to do what
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 6: they can to locate the bag and get it reunited.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 6: So obviously that helps the air tags. Plus, if all
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 6: the tags come off, put a copy of your itinerary
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 6: inside your luggage right before you close it. That way,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 6: if they do have to open it up, they can
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: see who it belongs to, where you're at and where the.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 7: Bag should be.
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  Speaker 1: That's an outstanding idea. Real quick, I got to ask you, Mr.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Aviation Expert, do you use those air tags? Because I
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: love the sound of that. Like if I was going
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: to travel to Europe or something, I mean, you need
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: what's in your luggage. I mean, without it, you're going
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: to have to go out and buy everything else. But
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: it sounds really compelling to do it, even though I
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: reject most of that technology out of hand because of
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: the big brother Orwellian thing. How about a J. Ratliff?
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: Is that something you use? I don't want to put
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: you on the spot if you don't answer the question. Don't.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 6: Look, we live to put each other on the spot.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 6: Don't worry about that. I'm using my wife's cell phone.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 6: Does that tell you if my technology skills would be
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 6: at a point where I would be dropping an AirTag
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 6: in my bag?
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  Speaker 1: Not bad, no.
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  Speaker 6: No, I have yet to get there, my friend.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 6: And I'm okay admitting that.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: That's okay. I just admitted that I don't either yet.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: Someday it may come. We're going to talk about American.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what you ask.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. We've got Jay's favorite topic coming up with
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: an Air India viral video. He loves when this kind
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: of thing happens. You'll know what that is coming up next.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: Don't go away.
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  Speaker 5: 55KRC.
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  Speaker 2: You ever been in a cockpit before?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: Of course, Jay Ratliff has. He's iHeartMedia aviation expert. He's nationwide.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: We get the benefit here on the 55KRC Morning Show
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: of Jay's conversation every Thursday beginning at 830. And just
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: chiming in on the air tags there, Jay, Eric, my friend,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: just said, hey, Delta sent my Pelican case to Los
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: Angeles instead of Phoenix yesterday, landed, immediately saw where my
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: case was because I used the smart tag. So it
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: does have a really good benefit on that. All right.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: Your favorite subject. The plane.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 6: One of many.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: The plane lands and everyone, in spite of the fact
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: you're hell and gone from the, uh, where the plane's
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: going to park, you're in taxi mode, and yet everyone
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: stands up and, well, waits for the door to open up.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: A pointless gesture, ruining things. Well, it happened in an
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: Air India flight, which went viral on a video.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Air India, they're trying to kind of, I guess,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 6: explain it away. They're saying, no, no, no, no, no,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 6: safeties are number one priority, blah, blah, blah. But here
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 6: you have this video. This shows the airplane taxiing at
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 6: a pretty good rate of speed, and then the camera
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 6: pans over to the aisle, and you have all the
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 6: dozens of passengers that are standing up in the aisle because, hey,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 6: that's what you do when you're taxiing off the runway.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 6: So Air India is saying that they're looking into blah, blah, blah.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: Typically what happens is the minute somebody stands up, the
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 6: flight attendant tells them to sit. When they don't comply,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 6: the lead flight attendant notifies the cockpit, and the airplane stops.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 6: where it's at right there if they can, period. And
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: that's what should have happened here. The airplane should have
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 6: came to a stop until everybody was seated. They totally
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 6: disregarded the standing safety protocol, but that's exactly it. Everybody's
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 6: got to be secured, seated. And until that airplane reaches
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 6: the gate, that seatbelt sign goes off. They were so
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 6: far removed from that. It's one of the reasons that
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 6: that video has gone as viral as it did. Yeah,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 6: it's annoying when people jump up right when the seatbelt
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 6: sign goes off and they try to run down the
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 6: aisle and they get five or six rows in, you know,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 6: before they're stopped and they have to wait to get
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 6: off the plane. But it's totally different when you're talking
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: about people, tons of them, standing up while the airplane
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 6: is still a good distance away from the airport that's
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 6: all on the flight crew it's the pilot the captain
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 6: in command that should have stopped that airplane did not
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 6: do it and to me that's the investigation why the
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 6: protocol now if the flight attendants did not notify the
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 6: cockpit then it's on them but if they did pilot
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 6: in command is the one that's.
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  Speaker 1: Responsible fair enough um let us see here uh we
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: had this terminal shutdown in new york or the that
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: computer glitch in new york which led to some ripple
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: effect outages did you ever break down what exactly happened
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: on that one jay Yeah, we had.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 6: A construction crew, a rail crew that was working that
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 6: cut a fiber line. It was Verizon that fed into
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 6: that network that shut things down. And it was a backup,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 6: but it created problems, and it lasted for about a
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 6: day and a half before we were able to get
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 6: everything back as where it needed to be. And the
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 6: air traffic control, the FAA, and the Department of Transportation
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 6: are all saying that they've taken steps to try to
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 6: reduce the likelihood of that happening again. And they're also saying, look,
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 6: for us to get everything that we need as far
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 6: as the air traffic control side of things, it's going
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 6: to take several more tens of billions of dollars to do, which,
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 6: of course, I believe is necessary given just how antiquated
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 6: a lot of the systems are. But it's really, I guess... Interesting,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 6: when you are so dependent that a single crew can
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 6: cut a single cable and it just shuts down things
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 6: with a busy northeast travel corridor. Look, on a good
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 6: weather day in the northeast, an on-time flight is still difficult.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 6: You throw out some of the technical issues that prevents
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 6: air traffic control from doing what they need to be doing. yeah,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 6: it just creates an absolute nightmare that even once it's fixed,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: you've got eight, 10, sometimes 12 hours before you get
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 6: everything back to operating as it should. So yeah, it
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 6: was an issue, but we had that happen in Atlanta
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 6: a number of years ago when a construction crew cut
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 6: a cable and part of the Atlanta airport went dark
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 6: for a while. So it happens around the world and
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 6: when it does, boy, it brings everything to a stop.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to bounce this one off you, Jay.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: It wasn't on your list and it just happened the
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: other day. And I know you don't mind this, but
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: Kind of curious to know from a management standpoint what
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: obligation airlines owe to the passengers. So this is a
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: woman on board a United Airlines flight. So she informs
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: the flight attendant that the man next to her was
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: performing a lewd act. And go ahead. It is exactly
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking about. On the plane. She goes over
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: and reports this, and she was told to return to
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: her seat. And then ultimately, as compensation for being forced
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: to sit next to a guy who's doing this, They
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: gave her $ 100 flight credit, which she referred to as insulting.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: What obligation does an airline owe under those circumstances? Obviously,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: they have some obligation to protect the fellow passengers on
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: the plane from this kind of behavior.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, if the flight is full, they
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 6: can't move her anywhere. That's the issue. Now, if there
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 6: were other seats available, I don't care if it was
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 6: in first class, you get her out of there because
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 6: you're subjecting her to something that is indecent exposure, and
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 6: that's a crime. And if you are refusing to respond
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 6: to that, that's the issue. And her biggest problem, Brian, was, yes,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 6: they didn't move her, and maybe they couldn't have. I
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 6: don't know if that flight was full or not. I
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 6: don't think it was. But to not have law enforcement
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 6: meet the flight was her biggest, biggest gripe. In other words,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 6: this man is doing this next to me, and you're
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 6: not doing anything about it. You did not notify the police.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 6: You did not have them standing by, and you gave
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 6: me a stupid $ 100 voucher for being subject to that
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 6: type of behavior for an extended period of time. To
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 6: say this is a lawsuit, I mean, look, that's your arena,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 6: not mine, but I'm telling you, you can't have... a
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 6: passenger that is subjected to that. And again, I'm going
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 6: to cut them some slack in the event that the
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 6: flight was full. But Brian, at the very, very, very least,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 6: you have law enforcement standing by so that you can
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: have the passenger and this person talk to me. Here's
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 6: the problem. And here's why it doesn't happen. If this
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 6: flight crew is connecting to another flight, law enforcement would
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 6: have to talk to the flight attendants and the pilot.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 6: So now everybody is tied up for maybe an hour.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 8: Hour and a half.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: Uh-uh, not going to happen.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 6: So we're not going to call law enforcement. And that's
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 6: why so many times when people have egregious behavior on
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 6: board an aircraft that you don't have law enforcement standing by.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 6: It's the reason that airlines... kind of look the other way,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 6: even though they shouldn't, because, look, they need to get
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 6: that crew to another flight. They've got other passengers, blah,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 6: all this other kind of stuff, which.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 5: Is absolutely no excuse.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 6: And it just infuriates me. But it happens every single
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 6: day that we should have law enforcement standing by when
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 6: somebody is doing something and they don't. And this is
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 6: a serious situation. And it's just really, really unfortunate. that
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 6: the ball was dropped on this. And I really hope that,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 6: you know, not only does the airline be held accountable,
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: but it sets the standard across the board for other
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 6: airlines to say, look, we really need to be a
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 6: lot more responsive when these types of things occur.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: Indeed. And real quick, I think you have any information
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't imagine you would, but just illustrating the high-risk
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: nature of flying generally, you're stuck in a recirculating environment.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: I remember flying out to California, Ontario International, and I
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: was on a plane And by the time we got
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: off that plane, I was so overwhelmed with something on
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: the plane that caused that awful allergy outbreak. I couldn't see.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: I was coughing, sneezing. And that lasted for hours. Well,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: it wasn't measles. Philadelphia International Airport, they had a measles exposure.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: Circulating that on a cabin, I guess this is just
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: a risk that can't be avoided, can it, Jack?
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 5: It can't.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons that some people will
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 6: try to wear masks or different things is to try
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 6: to prevent themselves from catching anything. Because again, You have
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 6: an inflow of fresh air that comes through. But the
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 6: thought process is a lot of people don't open up
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 6: their vents above them to keep some of that airflow
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 6: circulating as it should. And, yeah, there's times that you
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 6: can be exposed to things on board of an aircraft
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 6: because there's only so much that can be done. Even
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 6: though that air is designed to be recirculated, a lot
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 6: of times it's not. And what ends up taking place
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 6: is you have people that come down with, yeah, flus
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 6: and coughs and those kinds of things. Sharon, I've been
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 6: exposed to that. We were coming out of San Juan
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 6: back to, I think, Atlanta or Cincinnati, and the person
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 6: behind us was just hacking the whole way. And sure enough,
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 6: we had the same thing for like six weeks. And
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  Speaker 6: I was upset because Delta was aware of the fact
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  Speaker 6: that this person was coughing like this, and they still
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  Speaker 6: let him on board the airplane anyways. That's something a
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 6: gate agent should have said, uh-uh, no, look. We're not sure,
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 6: but it could make other passengers uncomfortable. But, you know,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 6: they elected to allow them to get on the airplane anyways.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm sure not only us, but others were impacted
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  Speaker 6: on that as well.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. I'm glad to hear that they at least have
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  Speaker 1: the authority to stop someone who is obviously sick and
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  Speaker 1: maybe even contagious. That's good. All right. We typically end
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  Speaker 1: as we shall today. Jay Ratliff, iHeartMedia aviation expert. How's
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  Speaker 1: it looking today for air travel?
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  Speaker 6: Minneapolis is going to be a big-time mess today, but
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 6: this weekend is going to be the issue. We've got
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 6: this nor'easter that's just kind of dancing off the coast,
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  Speaker 6: and as we roll into Friday through Monday night, this
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  Speaker 6: is going to be a multi-day event where we've got
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 6: high winds, rain, limited visibility, creating an absolute mess from
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 6: Philadelphia up to Boston. If you're traveling through the northeast,
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  Speaker 6: Airlines have already started issuing weather waivers. If you want
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 6: to avoid it and fly another time, they won't charge
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  Speaker 6: you the change fee. But, Brian, if you're going towards
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  Speaker 6: the northeast, connecting to or through, is that a destination
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  Speaker 6: or are you connecting to go to Europe, please make
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  Speaker 6: sure the airlines have a way to get a hold
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  Speaker 6: of you because that's going to be an absolute mess.
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  Speaker 6: We see it coming, and airlines are already adjusting their
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  Speaker 6: flight schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, can't thank you enough for joining the program
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  Speaker 1: every week. We'll do this again next Thursday beginning at 8.30.
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  Speaker 1: And best, I wish you and Sherry safe travels. Enjoy
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  Speaker 1: your trip while you're out there. And best of health
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  Speaker 1: and love to both of you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.