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Draft Society's Mock Draft Review I Ep 95 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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  Just do me a favour and look at the the forwards that are left
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  available. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's a really good point. I'm looking at this.
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  What it's Son who who knows what's going to happen there?
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  And Jon Pedro, who knows Jimenez, Matetta Solanke?
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  But there's. No one in there, yeah.
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  You can feel the drop off, yeah. You can feel it.
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  Oh yeah. Hello and welcome to episode 95
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  of Dropped Off Sides. I'm with Enzo and Joe.
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  My name is Keith. No Tico today, but we are joined
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  with Joe. We're joined with Joe from Draft
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  Society. He's here, I guess filled in for
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  Tico a little bit where he's also gonna give us some insights
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  and we're gonna, they had a mock draft that they did on their
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  channel. And so we're gonna kind of go
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  through that as well. But First off, Joe, just kind of
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  talking to you a little bit, biggest question, most important
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  question, who do you support? I'm a Liverpool guy.
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  I'm a Liverpool guy, OK? So.
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  So you're smiling this year? Yeah.
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  None of us, none of us have to fight, at least not at the
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  moment. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So it was a good year.
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  Actually, it was a really good year.
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  Not just because, you know, obviously the title, but I
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  fulfilled the lifelong dream of getting to Anfield this year,
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  which was absolutely incredible. So yeah, my wife and I went
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  there in February. We saw them narrowly beat
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  Wolves. It was, it was a nail biter
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  actually. But still it was amazing,
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  incredible time, amazing year to to get my first one under my
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  belt. So that was that was pretty
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  incredible. I'm still chasing that.
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  I still haven't been to Silver Bridge.
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  I've been over there. So very jealous.
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  That's very, very awesome. Yeah, it was cool.
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  Yeah, I've been to White Hot Lane, but I haven't been to
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  Tottenham Stadium yet, so you know, they got the longest bar
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  in the world, so I wouldn't mind heading over there for a couple
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  drinks. And and when did you kind of get
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  into soccer, start kind of falling in love with it?
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  I mean, I've played soccer my whole life, but in terms of the
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  Premier League, it's been maybe just under 2 decades just about.
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  I mean, I, I've, I fell in love with Liverpool because so I'm,
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  I'm from Wisconsin originally and so I'm a Green Bay Packers
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  guy. And so Liverpool had a similar
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  like the city itself had a similar like, you know, very
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  working. Class.
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  Blue collar vibe to to Green Bay and I just yeah, I kind of fell
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  for that. And then, of course, Stevie G
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  was kind of my Ave. into really falling in love with a player.
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  And yeah, I mean the rest is kind of history.
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  So I've just been supporting them ever since.
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  I don't have a like a an amazing reason other than that it
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  reminds me of another team that I deeply adore and love.
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  I think that's, yeah, that's a great reason.
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  I think with most American fans, it's kind of, I always joke that
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  you can kind of tell when someone became a fan based on
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  when they, when somebody started watching, based on when they
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  what team they support. You could always, yeah, what
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  team they support because like, you know, it's like people that
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  in the early 90s there was like, you know, or late 90s there was
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  Arsenal, you know, then it was Chelsea and then it's, you know,
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  so it's kind of funny like that. Yeah.
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  That kind of shakes out. I feel like Liverpool, yeah,
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  like there's a, there's a huge overlap with with Gerard, right,
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  And Liverpool fans. And then I feel the same way
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  about Chelsea and like like the drug but era for some reason.
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  That was definitely yeah, yeah, 100% like you and you drag, but
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  Lampard. So you're there for Stevie G
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  Sammy, hope you're like some really good Michael Barrage back
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  in the day. John and Arisa John on the.
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  Day John on Arisa. What a left foot.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, that goal.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing. Absolutely.
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  Yeah. Then.
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  What about what? What about what about fantasy?
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  How long have you been playing that and how did you get into?
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  How did you get into that? I just looked because you, I saw
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  you were going to ask me this question and I realized that
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  this is year #9 nice. Yeah, fine, it's fine.
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  But yeah, this isn't this is this will be 9.
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  So 2 on Taga and then the rest on fan tracks.
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  Amazing. Yeah.
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  It was like the precursor, right?
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  It was like that's what they call the scoring system.
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  I know a little bit. I know, I know a little bit
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  there. You go, yeah.
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  So if you want to talk podcasts, I mean, we don't get, we don't
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  have time to get into all the lore.
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  But like, if you want to talk podcasts, there was a podcast
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  that was called it was called Bang Average and it was the
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  creator of Taga, John Wallin and a couple of his buddies would do
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  the podcast, but they basically just talked shit the whole time,
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  like not in about like they just like chatted about nothing.
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  They just bantered and people would TuneIn to try to get
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  fantasy advice and they're like, I none of this is actionable.
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  I can't do anything with this information.
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  So so that was when me and if you know the, if you know draft
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  Genie, that's when me and him decided to start the Kick Around
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  podcast and we pitched it to fan tracks and they actually picked
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  it up and they were like, yeah, cool.
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  You can be like part of our, our, yeah.
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  You're. Awesome.
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  That's cool, man. And then you and then you guys
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  took that and kind of did your own thing with draft society,
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  right? That kind of.
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  Yeah, I mean, anybody who's had any amount of, let's just call
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  it interaction with fan tracks or their their UI or their
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  management, it was only natural that we needed to like do our
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  own thing because we just were never going to see eye to eye.
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  Love the platform that they run, love that they keep it free for
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  us. But they, yeah, they're not,
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  they're not great to, like, work under.
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  Totally makes sense. And what's kind of your role
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  now? Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. What's kind of your role now?
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  I know you read some articles, you're kind of just what's you
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  kind of do a little bit of everything for the draft
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  Society? Is that kind of your?
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  I'm big in, I'm big into the draft kit because I have summers
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  off. I'm a teacher, so I'm, I'm, I do
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  a lot of work in the summers on the draft kit and then during
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  the school year, which I don't have much time.
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  I'm mainly just the, the voice. I I run the podcast and that's
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  really about it. And what about so this year
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  draft kit? Does it come out tomorrow?
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  What's the day? Out.
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  Yeah, I'm literally gonna. I'm gonna publish it after we're
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  off the air. Amazing.
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  So July 1st, so it'll probably be the 4th or something by the
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  time this comes out. So it'll already be out.
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  And what, what are you most decided about this year for the
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  draft kit? I mean, we've got a lot of the,
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  the best hits, like the, you know, the the greatest hits that
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  we've got on there do not draft list.
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  You know, we've got of course, the starting 11 of sleepers.
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  We'll have all of our rankings from every single draft society
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  analyst we will have. I mean, just like forecast for
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  every single Premier League team.
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  I'm excited about the flashback this time because the flashbacks
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  are all in one place and you can read them kind of all at the
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  same time instead of clicking to a bunch of different articles.
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  So that'll be cool. And those, those will be live
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  starting tomorrow. All of our flashbacks looking
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  back at last year. I got 2.
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  I got 2 questions. All right, One, you said you're
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  a teacher. Are you a teacher or you're a PE
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  teacher? What, what, which?
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  Or you're a teacher. I love this.
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  No. Is that a real?
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  Is that a real question? It's a real question.
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  It is. Well, I mean, it is.
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  It is. So what?
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  So there's, there's two like PE teacher goes hand in hand with
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  like teaching an elective, which basically means like, you know,
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  oh, you teach something that kids want to take.
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  No, I I teach English so. OK.
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  They have to take my class all four years and they hate every
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  moment. Of it I like English.
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  I did English later. What what what grades you teach?
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  Mostly sophomores, I teach some AP as well.
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  But but yeah, and then I teach speech class as well, so that
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  would make sense. Very cool.
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  And so we could probably use a little, we could probably use a
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  little your little speech ability as sometimes I feel like
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  we're all mispronouncing all that players names.
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  It's so hard when they're also international, you know?
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  I I say perfectly fine we talk about I have my English teacher
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  would love me right now because my Annunciation since I came to
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  America is excellent because I can't even slow my words.
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  Second question, do you have like a ghost .11 on this?
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  Oh. Look at that.
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  I just gave an idea. You're welcome.
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  Enzo, that is a fantastic idea. Guess what we do now.
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  Oh. There you go, there you go.
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  We do that. You heard it here first.
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  Just. FYI, my team is going to be a
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  staple to that because I'm doing money.
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  All right, I'm going to I'm going to give you a shout out in
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  the article. Yeah.
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  What's OK that this might be a perfect kind of segue into this.
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  What kind of metric do you think is overlooked for people, either
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  that you guys talk about in the drop kit or just something that
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  you see on fan tricks that you use that you think that maybe
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  people aren't putting enough weight in?
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  Is there anything that comes to mind?
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  I mean, totally. I mean, I, I focus a lot on
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  ghost points as as Enzo mentions, I focus a ton on that
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  for, I have to say this every single time on our show, but
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  for, for listeners who are unaware, those are points that
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  you get from that are not linked to Gold's assistant clean
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  sheets. So anything else that gets you
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  points on the fantasy pitch, that's what we look at and
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  that's what you want to give you a backbone of like a, you know,
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  a good, a good floor for your players.
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  Also, are you guys familiar with WAR?
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  Yes, yeah, winds above replacement.
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  Yeah, that is. That's one of the ones that I
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  use really heavily when making my rankings.
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  Interesting. Yeah, that's all.
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  You guys have a bunch of that stuff in the draft kit cuz
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  that's definitely not as accessible that kind of you
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  know, so that's definitely where you can meet you guys.
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  We need people that are a little more data centric to get that
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  pulled in. Yeah, totally.
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  Yeah, WAR scores are harder to come by.
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  You're gonna have to, you're gonna have to kind of dig a
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  little bit, but they are in, they are in the draft kit for
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  sure. And basically what it means, let
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  me just and then hold on until then.
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  I'll, I'll sorry. But so basically what WAR is, is
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  a measurement of how much better a certain player is then like a
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  waiver wire level replacement for that position.
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  So and then if you add up the WAR, basically what it will tell
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  you is how many more wins your team could be expected to have
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  just by having that particular player over a random waiver wire
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  guy. So for example, Mohamed Salah
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  4.19 last year, which means that just by having him you could
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  expect to have won four more games than you would have if you
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  did not have him on your team. And but that's like an absurdly
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  high number, right? Like a like a normal like elite.
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  Maybe first round pick would be what close to like a 1.5 or
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  something or two. Yeah, I mean Palmer and Bomo
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  were 2 1/2 last. Half.
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  OK, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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  Yeah. That's a, that's an interesting
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  metric because it's, it's, it's interesting to see like how you
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  comp that to like points per start, how you know how you use
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  that in relation, how you weigh it when you're looking at other
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  metrics too. Yeah.
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  You know, I'd be really curious kind of how you do that a little
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  bit. I mean, yeah, we could we could
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  do a whole episode on this. So points per start is is super
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  important. And I would just tell anybody
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  who's still using fan tracks point per game, do you need to
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  get away from that? Like just head over to Draft
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  Society, go to our useful draft metrics and it's it's free.
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  It's it's not charged for that at all.
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  So you can look at this anytime. Points per start is what you
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  want. I mean because points per game
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  is going to take into account appearances as as a substitute.
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  Yeah. Yeah, OK.
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  All right. And then so let's get into a
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  little bit what give us give us a little cheat on the from the
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  draft, the draft kit. What's 1 player that you're
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  staying away from this year in drafts?
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  Oh man, I have a lot of these. It's a big red flag.
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  OK, let me see, Let me pull this up quick, All right?
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  Staying away from anybody who's super goal dependent, anybody
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  who's not going to be on Enzo's Ghost .11.
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  So we're talking about guys, you know, like Mathias Tell, Emil
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  Smith, Rowe, Reese Nelson, any of these guys who, you know,
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  people are still drafting for some reason, they end up giving
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  you the same amount of points that you can get from from
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  waiver wire guys. That's great.
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  And what about a player to surprise us this season?
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  Anyone who you're really, really excited about.
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  Yeah, I mean, Enzo, you're going to love this one as well.
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  Really late in drafts, you can get either Jed Spence or Destiny
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  Udoggi. I can't tell you at the moment
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  which one exactly it will be. Yeah, if you look online, a lot
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  of the the chatter is about Spence.
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  And I'll be curious to hear from you, Enzo, on this.
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  But everybody's talking about like what an amazing player he
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  could be under a Thomas Frank fullback system.
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  And if we look at just like Michael Coyote to end the year,
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  his stats were amazing and his ghost points were incredible.
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  And I'm really excited, intrigued about the idea of
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  maybe a Jed Spence under under Frank or maybe it's a Dokie.
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  I'm not sure yet. But one of those you can get
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  really late. You can probably get them both
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  in in rounds. You know 1415.
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  It's all going to depend on if Thomas Frank doesn't mind having
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  a right footed player on the left.
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  So I don't see him taking over Pedro Poro unless we sell him
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  off this season, which I don't see us doing.
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  I hope not. I hope not.
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  That's what I mean. But but he's amazing attacking
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  wise, defensive wise, he takes on players.
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  So he's got dribble completions. He's got a goal threat.
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  In this Thomas Frank sort of triangle football, we'll call it
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  the triangle football where he overloads on one side.
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  There's a lot of opportunity for him.
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  So is Spence the left footer? Dog is right footer no.
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  No Spence, right foot, your dog is left.
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  Got it. OK, Good to know.
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  I'm taking notes as we do this. Yeah.
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  I like, I like them both. Yeah.
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  Also, Charlie Alcaraz is another one I'm looking at.
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  I like that. Yeah, I think he's gonna have.
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  I think he's gonna have a big ear.
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  I think he, when you looked on, when you looked on on fan
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  tracks, his numbers were also skewed because, you know, he
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  came in with like, you know, was subbing in for a few games and
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  his numbers were so kind of didn't really reflect at how
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  well he did every single time he started.
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  So he's someone I picked up late last year and really enjoyed
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  having. And so, yeah, definitely looking
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  for that just. Didn't get the starts and now,
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  you know, guys like Harrison are gone and even like De Coray,
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  like I just think there's, there's places for him to start,
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  even if it's maybe not his natural position.
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  But now that they've signed him, you know, long term, I I think
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  they're going to have to find a way to get him in the team.
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  And, and I think that, you know, the combination of him and
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  Illaman Jai and Beto, I think could actually be really, really
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  and and of course don't. Don't forget about Yeah, ghost
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  point master, do I? Big deal.
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  No, I was we we kind of talked about this a few times.
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  We think that Everton attack is like deceivingly exciting, you
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  know, especially going into this next year.
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  So it could be a fun one. All right, let's kind of go
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  through. So something we like to do,
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  especially right now with transfer winners being crazy.
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  Just talking if about a few of the kind of biggest news and
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  notes and try not to linger too much on this because this could
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  also be a whole episode if you really wanted to track it out.
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  But a few big things. I guess the the biggest things
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  are right now Jon Pedro and Jamie Gittens to Chelsea both
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  happening. I know.
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  I mean, as a Chelsea fan, I do not feel good about the Jon
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  Pedro one, right? Like that doesn't like as it
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  doesn't feel good. As someone who likes Jaal Pedro,
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  you're like, oh, you're really losing a lot of his fantasy
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  value A&B. Just like where, where do you,
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  where does he end up? It seems like he can play in
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  three different positions, you know, but he's not as he's going
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  to be #1 in any of those three positions.
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  You. That's that's that's the big.
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  Thing, man, is he going to get the minutes?
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  I love Jaal Pedro and so do you. That was your hips I picked two
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  years ago and I don't know if he's going to get the minutes,
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  but this is like the fourth player from Brian Chelsea's
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  sport. So if you really think about it,
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  what are the ones that they bought?
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  Cucarella Casado. All right, Are you ready?
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  Are you ready for this? I have this stat because it was
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  it was thrown around. It was thrown around in the
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  draft Society chat today our our little group chat that we have
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  so over the last three years between coaches and players.
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  1313 from Brighton to Chelsea, Wow.
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  OK, so if you combine that with the amount of players that they
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  bought from Man City's Academy, it's pretty much the whole team.
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  Like a legitimately when you look, it's like it's literally
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  the whole team. It's between those two things.
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  So it is kind of weird, kind of crazy.
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  I think in my my job page actually goes like drops on drop
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  boards now going to Chelsea, where I think if he was going to
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  Newcastle or is pretty much going to any other team, you'd
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  think he'd probably go up. Yep.
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  So little little bit of a bummer as a as a fan of Jon Pedro, but
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  I'm not mad about it as a Chelsea fan.
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  Yeah, Thanks, Chelsea. No, it's definitely exactly, No,
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  I it's sad. It's sad from a draft
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  standpoint. What I can tell you is that we
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  tomorrow we will also come out with our tiered rankings.
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  So we don't have our consensus rankings yet, but we do have our
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  tiers, our version, one of our tiers.
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  And before launch here today, I definitely downgraded him one
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  tier. So absolutely, yeah.
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  And then I think Jamie Ginz is interesting.
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  He's young, he had twelve goals, 5 assists, so you know, good
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  numbers, but it's the Bundesliga, so it's kind of
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  really hard to gauge that. But I think he's going to be
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  just that like left footed winger.
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  I think Jon Pedro can play it on the left too, though.
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  So I think that's, you know, and then obviously we've seen Matt
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  Reck play there, we've seen Pedro Netta play there.
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  So it's not like there's this any sort of clarity about where
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  any of those guys really go, you know?
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  Right. So, so OK, we're making good
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  time. Let's let's let's pause on this
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  for a second. So Keith, tell me where you see
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  these players playing, because I think Neto has been playing at
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  the Club World Cup, I mean, pretty consistently.
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  I've actually been really encouraged to see the minutes
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  that he's been getting and the way that he ended the Season 2.
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  I was really excited about him until this news yesterday.
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  Funny, I I don't think that he effects Netzo that much.
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  I think Netzo's probably playing off the right.
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  I think we never played off the left.
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  It just wasn't he wasn't as strong.
• 17:45
  OK, I think Gil Pedro can, I think what's nice about Gil
• 17:47
  Pedro's he can play in the like that ten that Cole Palmer plays.
• 17:51
  I think he can play as a striker if like Jackson goes down or
• 17:54
  gets sold or Liam dilapse injured and they need a sub.
• 17:57
  And I also thought Gil Pedro when he played for Watford
• 18:00
  played off the left too. So I think he can fit any of
• 18:03
  those three positions. So I think it's, you know,
• 18:07
  realistically, is he really gonna like battle out Cole
• 18:10
  Palmer and the 10? Probably not.
• 18:11
  Realistically, is he gonna battle out one of the two
• 18:13
  strikers and the nine? Probably not.
• 18:15
  So like, oh, great. Realistically, it's like the
• 18:17
  left wing where you would think that he has the best shot of
• 18:21
  locking down a Sonic starting spot.
• 18:23
  Yeah, you just mentioned like 20 players there that he has a bow
• 18:26
  with. You're giving me a headache.
• 18:28
  That's what I'm saying. I think you're gonna see.
• 18:29
  Yeah, it is. It's a, it's a headache.
• 18:31
  It's a total headache. The whole thing's a headache.
• 18:33
  Your complete. Optimism of how Enzo Mareska can
• 18:36
  fit all these players on one team.
• 18:39
  It's impossible. Well, what if you invert both
• 18:43
  the full backs, you get everyone up?
• 18:47
  No. Yeah, it's gonna be, it's gonna
• 18:48
  be a headache. It's I think the whole, I think,
• 18:50
  you know, barring like Enzo Fernandez and Cole Palmer, I
• 18:54
  think that whole attack's gonna be a headache.
• 18:55
  Well, yeah, I don't think there's anyone that's super
• 18:57
  safe. I think I will say though, Joe,
• 18:59
  to your point, like, I think Pedro Netto has looked really
• 19:02
  good and he was looking really good the last season with the
• 19:04
  Club World Cup. He looks great, but he's also
• 19:06
  like to me, he's so dependent on transition play to really
• 19:11
  thrive. He needs and like it's not
• 19:13
  necessarily the way that Maresca like loves to play, but you when
• 19:17
  you see what most of his goals come through transition when he
• 19:19
  was playing for Wolves is on that counter attacking team.
• 19:21
  So sometimes I think when they sit against that low block, he
• 19:24
  can struggle. So I'm not like I don't have a
• 19:26
  ton of confidence in him through a whole season where he has to
• 19:28
  play against the, you know, those type of like low block
• 19:32
  teams that are going to really lock in, you know, So, yeah, I I
• 19:35
  like I'm staying away from a lot of Chelsea assets this year.
• 19:38
  You. Know what this situation reminds
• 19:39
  me of? And Kun Ku last season?
• 19:44
  Yeah, swear. Like and then and then Jeff,
• 19:46
  Felix too, just how? And then they get there, then
• 19:48
  how unsettled they become really quickly when if Mareska is not
• 19:51
  going to rotate and it becomes a thing where, you know, he's
• 19:54
  getting a random FA Cup game or, you know, you know, there's no
• 19:59
  conference league this year. So it'll it'll it'll be really
• 20:01
  interesting. And I don't think Jon Pager's
• 20:03
  type of guy that's not going to he he seems like type of guy
• 20:05
  that would cause a fuss. You know, he definitely has a
• 20:07
  lot of personality, so. Sancho Mudrick, I mean, add it
• 20:11
  to the list and then you're the new boy, Keith, that you're that
• 20:15
  you a couple episodes ago were banging on about.
• 20:18
  Stadio. Yeah, I mean, he's that's he's
• 20:21
  toast. There's no way he's playing.
• 20:25
  Yeah, I I don't know. I don't know how he does it.
• 20:28
  I I'm not. Yeah, I don't know.
• 20:32
  We'll see. Could be a could be a civil war
• 20:35
  in that dressing room depending on what happens.
• 20:39
  Do you? Do you happen to have your?
• 20:40
  Do I happen to have my what? Your your rankings up at the
• 20:43
  moment. I know you made some rankings,
• 20:44
  do you have them? I do.
• 20:46
  Where do you have Neto? I have my I have mine done
• 20:49
  through #40 OK so I think mine are not complete but.
• 20:53
  I'm going to look right now and this is this is I was they were
• 20:56
  joking about this. This is changing quite a bit
• 20:59
  every week. Things are moving.
• 21:00
  I have that's right now at 44. Oh wow, I'm at 27.
• 21:04
  OK, yeah, See, I don't, I don't have faith that he's going to
• 21:07
  play 30 plus games, you know, And so to me that that's where
• 21:11
  the concern is because I think it's about, you know, when you
• 21:13
  look at everyone ahead of him, they're guys that you're going
• 21:15
  to start every single game that, you know, you're going to get
• 21:17
  day in, day in, day out kind of starts from.
• 21:21
  And to me like that, that becomes important, especially in
• 21:23
  the first four or five rounds, you know, maybe first 3-4 rounds
• 21:27
  and then after that is when I start to splash out on the on
• 21:31
  the riskier guys. Yeah, Yeah.
• 21:33
  I mean that's fair. You're we're going to in our
• 21:37
  conversation in a little bit. Well, I'm sure touch on the fact
• 21:39
  that forwards are very thin. And so it's going to be an
• 21:44
  interesting to see. I I just I loved what I saw from
• 21:47
  him at the to end the year and I I loved what I've seen from him
• 21:50
  so far this summer. And so if that were to continue,
• 21:55
  I'm I'm in like, I think he looks fantastic.
• 21:58
  He's like, he's like reborn. I, I totally agree.
• 22:00
  And I mean, and you, you also, he has the pedigree of, of being
• 22:03
  such an explosive player. And we've seen him just like
• 22:05
  have such high point returns, you know, for Wolves in the
• 22:08
  past. So, you know, it's a
• 22:09
  possibility. So I, I totally get it.
• 22:11
  And that, you know, he might move literally when we get off
• 22:14
  this call, I might move him just because I like, I changed stuff
• 22:17
  so much. But but, but yeah, no, I
• 22:20
  totally, I see that. Like I totally get it.
• 22:22
  I think I'm just, I'm being kind of pessimistic on most of the
• 22:25
  Chelsea attack at the moment. The amount of players there.
• 22:28
  I just don't, it's just not something I want to be taking a
• 22:30
  risk on, especially in the first 3 rounds.
• 22:32
  It's kind of where I'm at with it.
• 22:35
  I think that makes total sense. I mean, honestly, I, I'm, I'm
• 22:38
  coming around to that point of view as well.
• 22:39
  And I was, I was being a little bit hopeful this season for some
• 22:42
  of the Chelsea guys. And yesterday, you know, when
• 22:46
  that news came through, I thought you took the words out
• 22:50
  of my mouth when you said, like, if he'd gone anywhere else,
• 22:53
  anywhere else, it would have been an increase in value.
• 22:57
  Yeah. All right.
• 22:59
  I think that was that was enough there just really quickly, we're
• 23:01
  all just. Sad now?
• 23:03
  Not me. Yeah, I'm fine.
• 23:07
  Miles Lewis, Skelly contract extension, not that big a deal
• 23:10
  like, but I think in my mind it's just like the the more I
• 23:13
  think about the Arsenal back line and the amount of players
• 23:15
  they have now and with everyone back healthy, I like that to me
• 23:18
  just seems like such a rotation risk and that to me seems kind
• 23:21
  of concerning. Could be or does he go back to
• 23:25
  his natural position? In the midfield, but then even
• 23:30
  yeah, he's like a yeah, but he's playing left back.
• 23:32
  I'm not sure. It seems like Arsenal's been
• 23:33
  kind of using him to invert as like a piece, you know.
• 23:36
  But even without him, the amount of defenders they have, you
• 23:40
  don't feel great about a lot, you know, like Timber, like Cal
• 23:43
  Fiori's even, like it's even in the starting plans.
• 23:47
  I don't know. They have Timber.
• 23:48
  They have, you know, I just, I don't know who I don't know.
• 23:51
  I don't know who's going to be starting for them.
• 23:53
  I wouldn't be late. I would love to see him in
• 23:55
  midfield though. He's a strong lad.
• 23:56
  He's like not built like a kid, like from his age.
• 23:59
  He's he's built like a, a solid like 26 year old.
• 24:04
  And he the way he's playing, I think he'd be a lot better than
• 24:06
  Martinelli because he's more attacked forward and he doesn't
• 24:09
  just put his head down and run. He actually looks up, you know,
• 24:12
  I mean, so I think that could be a little bit more.
• 24:15
  Yeah, I don't know if he's a like an attacking man.
• 24:18
  Yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm curious to see where he
• 24:20
  ends up. That's a good, good point.
• 24:22
  I've talked, I've talked to Ryan Barnes about this and you know,
• 24:25
  die hard Arsenal fan just just had his son by the way and his
• 24:31
  wife did, which is cool. That's right.
• 24:34
  Just to give you some insight, his son's name is Santi David
• 24:37
  Barnes. So, so Ryan, right?
• 24:44
  So Ryan basically thinks that it's Lewis Kelly's spot.
• 24:49
  I mean, he he's only he's only skeptical about the fact that
• 24:55
  Sergey what's up, man? He's only he's only skeptical
• 24:59
  about the fact that that we don't know exactly how that
• 25:06
  translates to fantasy points because now if you go based on
• 25:10
  fan tracks default, we did recommend to them that this year
• 25:15
  they switched Lewis Kelly to a defender, which they have done,
• 25:19
  which is cool. The question now becomes adding
• 25:22
  in the clean sheets to his fantasy scores, which were
• 25:25
  really bad last year. Does he actually become a
• 25:27
  playable fantasy asset? I'm still not convinced, but but
• 25:32
  he will have those clean sheets now.
• 25:33
  So it's something that people could consider late in drafts.
• 25:38
  Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at all.
• 25:41
  I think they're just going to come second again anyway, so I'm
• 25:47
  not fucking mad. About that Oh.
• 25:48
  We could have the clean sheep boy.
• 25:49
  It's just what draws. You get nil nil draws.
• 25:51
  That's fine, You get the clean. All right, that next next big
• 25:56
  news is Luis Diaz. It's not.
• 25:59
  It sounded like the rumours that Saudi was prepping a big bid and
• 26:02
  then it sounds like that buyer today came into the mix as well.
• 26:05
  And so this is one of those sagas I could see dragging on
• 26:07
  until after drafts, you know, the the way Ivan Tony was last
• 26:11
  year and Kane was here before. And as this goes on, he's
• 26:14
  dropping down on my board. I just it's I do not want to
• 26:17
  like, especially in that like where he was for me.
• 26:19
  I had him pretty high before this news.
• 26:21
  I hadn't like it like the turn. I don't like 10/11/12, like
• 26:24
  right there And now it's like I do not want to touch anyone in
• 26:28
  those first few rounds that could potentially even have the
• 26:30
  potential to be gone. Yeah.
• 26:31
  There's so many bigger names and important names around it.
• 26:34
  Yes. You know.
• 26:35
  That was my boy, not my boy anymore.
• 26:39
  It's just, it's just too risk. It's just too risky.
• 26:42
  Yeah, no, I totally agree. I mean, I at the moment, I still
• 26:46
  have him at 14, but but you know, obviously enough people
• 26:51
  got burned by Harry Kane that I'm, I'm really, really wary of
• 26:58
  that. And I would, I draft him
• 27:00
  personally, I, I doubt it. I think I would probably go with
• 27:03
  whoever I have right around there.
• 27:06
  How far would he have to drop for you to draft him well?
• 27:10
  That's a good question. Tell you what, Tell you what.
• 27:12
  Here's what I would do if I drafted him in the third.
• 27:15
  Let's say I would. I would reach as far as I needed
• 27:20
  to on Cody Gacpo. Yeah, that's a good call.
• 27:23
  It's a really good shot. Yeah, I like that.
• 27:27
  All right. Just trying to speed through the
• 27:28
  last ones. Kudus, Tana, rumors.
• 27:30
  Enzo, do you like that? No, screw that guy for getting
• 27:33
  red card. Screw that guy.
• 27:35
  He doesn't need kind of ton him, you know, ruin the freaking
• 27:38
  change room. Get rid of him.
• 27:40
  Reverse reverse, reverse jinx. No, I don't want.
• 27:43
  Kudos. I want him two seasons ago.
• 27:45
  I don't want a kudos from last season.
• 27:47
  He can go kick rocks. Whoa.
• 27:50
  I did not think that was going to be a response.
• 27:51
  Sorry. I apologize.
• 27:53
  I think kudos goes up boards he was bad, but how much of that
• 27:56
  was like West Ham was pretty bad?
• 27:59
  I mean, sure, but Bowen seems to always deliver.
• 28:03
  Yeah, completely. That's.
• 28:04
  True, Bowen is like the most unsexy pick that I you know what
• 28:08
  I mean? He's like, but he's so
• 28:09
  consistent. He doesn't and he just got
• 28:12
  married so he's in a good bloody mood, so he should be all.
• 28:15
  Right, this is Enzo's latest thing is he's really looking at
• 28:18
  the everyone's relationship status before making decisions.
• 28:23
  Latest you've. Got to be in a good place
• 28:25
  mentally, you know what I mean? Like going for a divorce.
• 28:28
  Terrible scene with man. See, you know, yeah.
• 28:32
  I suppose, yeah. Did you guys see that Bowen got
• 28:36
  switched to a forward as well? Oh, did he?
• 28:38
  I did. I don't know, I love that I, you
• 28:41
  know, I it makes so much sense, but I was like kind of mad
• 28:44
  because he was someone I was really trying to target because
• 28:46
  of that mid position and the scar scarcity of it.
• 28:49
  No. You're going to have plenty of
• 28:50
  mids this year. I know I've heard we're going to
• 28:52
  get let's get into that one minute.
• 28:53
  One last one. I want to talk about Gorkarez.
• 28:55
  It sounds, I mean, it's still so in the air.
• 28:57
  If he was to go to Arsenal, just like that hypothetical, not Man
• 29:01
  United, because I don't want any other player going to Man United
• 29:03
  this this transfer window. But if Gorkarez was to go to
• 29:05
  Arsenal, where do where roughly do you think could go in drafts?
• 29:10
  Like where does he fall in in the in in your in your rankings?
• 29:13
  What? Do you think Enzo I.
• 29:14
  Fucking hate Arsenal, but he he scored a lot of goals.
• 29:18
  Something wrong? He he scored a fucking ton of
• 29:20
  goals, but it was in the Portuguese league.
• 29:22
  But regardless, if you're going to score a lot of goals, you go
• 29:24
  over the top like he's done. He's not first rounder, maybe
• 29:29
  late second, early 3rd. The way, so the way I see it is
• 29:33
  if we first of all you're not going to get in there.
• 29:36
  The way I see it is that if they go with Yokoresh, I think that
• 29:42
  that is a statement that they are putting all of their eggs in
• 29:46
  this year's basket like the. Winning.
• 29:49
  And I think that he ends up starting the vast majority of
• 29:52
  matches. If you see them bring in
• 29:55
  Benjamin Chesco, then I think that is an indication that they
• 29:59
  are sort of playing the longer game, two or three years and I
• 30:04
  think you're going to see him and Haverts split quite a bit,
• 30:07
  which terrifies me. I still think haverts will play
• 30:10
  a good deal. So my answer is somebody will
• 30:15
  take him at the end of the first round because there is a very
• 30:18
  significant drop off that we're about to talk about at the end
• 30:21
  of the first round, but it will not be me.
• 30:24
  It will not be me. I I feel this similar.
• 30:28
  I think I could, I would not laugh at someone taking him at
• 30:33
  like 11, you know, Yeah, I think earlier than that I would be
• 30:37
  doing the the Nelson ha ha. And then yeah, I think anywhere
• 30:42
  from like 11, but I think like by by mid second, if he's still
• 30:45
  there, I'd absolutely be taking him.
• 30:47
  Would you rather have him or Bowen?
• 30:49
  I'd rather have that Bowen just for consistency.
• 30:52
  Would you rather have him or Eze if he doesn't go to Arsenal?
• 30:55
  I think that's I think that's actually the line for me.
• 30:57
  I think Eze I'd rather take. But then like for me, like
• 30:59
  Munez, I'd rather have Gorkarez. I think I'd rather take that
• 31:03
  upside than a defender because I know for me defenders, we'll
• 31:07
  talk about it in a minute. But I think defenders have
• 31:09
  historically been a little less consistent as far as like your
• 31:13
  your generating points. Yeah, your name isn't Trent or
• 31:16
  chair ship here. So that that to me would maybe
• 31:19
  turn that like be the be the the line right there where I'd maybe
• 31:24
  be interested in it. What about him or staying in
• 31:26
  forward? What about him or Ollie Watkins?
• 31:30
  I like Ollie Watkins, but I think that's a really tough one.
• 31:34
  I have him at 18, so that would be Watkins.
• 31:36
  Yeah, Watkins at 18, huh? Yeah, yeah, it'd be quite the
• 31:40
  jump for me. So is that, is that kind of
• 31:42
  where you you are? So that's kind of where you feel
• 31:44
  like door crash would would be as well then?
• 31:47
  Not necessarily. I man, even later I might I
• 31:51
  might slot him in right before Luis Diaz if if there's still
• 31:55
  transfer rumors. So I might have him at that 14
• 31:57
  spot. Good to know.
• 31:59
  All righty, then let's get into it.
• 32:00
  So you guys did a mock draft. This was last week.
• 32:03
  So that what it was like the end of June, you guys did a mock
• 32:07
  draft. Yeah, we.
• 32:09
  Had to do 1 before the the draft kit.
• 32:11
  It was so early, but it was, it was, it was fascinating to
• 32:14
  watch. And I'm going to pull up the
• 32:16
  board right now on my screen so anyone on YouTube can watch it.
• 32:20
  We'll still kind of talk through it.
• 32:21
  Nice. And then OK.
• 32:24
  Yeah, we actually did a live podcast as well, which was fun.
• 32:26
  You, you were in the. You were in the.
• 32:28
  That was fun. That was like a great you you
• 32:29
  messaged me that morning and I like didn't really have plans
• 32:32
  and I was like, I can't wait to do this for the next hour.
• 32:34
  It was a. Blast.
• 32:36
  It was so much fun just just talking through each pic.
• 32:38
  And I mean, yeah, we felt like, we felt like proper
• 32:41
  sportscasters. Yeah, you guys can see the draft
• 32:46
  board. Yes, yeah.
• 32:48
  Great. All right.
• 32:49
  So we'll kind of just go through this quickly.
• 32:51
  I think the kind of want to focus on the first few rounds to
• 32:54
  start and then we can maybe just pick and pick and choose after
• 32:57
  that. The 1st 6 picks I think are
• 32:59
  pretty 6-7 are pretty standard, maybe the 1st 5 for sure.
• 33:04
  And that they go Saka, Muhammad, Salah, Cole Palmer, Bruno
• 33:06
  Fernandez, Alexander Isaac, and then worse than the six maybe is
• 33:10
  the first point of discussion for me that the choice was to go
• 33:15
  there instead of Holland. Again, I, I'd like, I think the
• 33:18
  only issue there, the only question mark there is just
• 33:21
  worth being a new player in the league.
• 33:22
  But I think we've talked about it a lot that the pedigree of
• 33:26
  both of Liverpool and the pedigree of him as a player kind
• 33:29
  of seem like that's not, not, I don't.
• 33:31
  I don't hate that at all, you know?
• 33:33
  And I think the bigger talking point is the fact that Holland
• 33:36
  is at 7 seven. Like what?
• 33:38
  Why is he not 5? Well, yeah, I, I, I mean, to me,
• 33:41
  the reason is, is because the amount of attacking talent that
• 33:44
  they're bringing in and like the Marmouche kind of rising and
• 33:47
  these other players where maybe it's not going to be Holland
• 33:49
  starting 36 games like he has the last Four Seasons, you know?
• 33:53
  Yeah. So I think that would that would
• 33:55
  be the reason. But I mean, at the end of the
• 33:57
  day, it's still he's still a machine.
• 34:00
  He's still on the machine of a team.
• 34:03
  So he. Can he can bounce basically
• 34:04
  bounce back season for CEO? I'm going to go do it
• 34:06
  back-to-back bad seasons. This is they can't, especially
• 34:09
  what they invested. And Alexander Esac, the reason
• 34:12
  he's 5th is because he's a baller.
• 34:13
  I've been saying this for two years, so.
• 34:15
  Yeah. Yeah, I think with ESAC, you get
• 34:17
  a little more. You know, Holland is so goal
• 34:19
  dependent. He's such a, you know, so
• 34:22
  dependent where ESAC, I feel you get a little more of a baseline
• 34:25
  there. Yeah, so.
• 34:27
  That's a great question. We should, we should look at
• 34:29
  that. Alexander Esac.
• 34:31
  Let's see, we have a stat that is called GACS which is goal
• 34:35
  assist clean sheet percentage. Meaning how many of their
• 34:38
  fantasy points do they get from or what percentage of their
• 34:41
  fantasy points do they get from goals and clean sheets?
• 34:44
  Alexander Esock gets 52% of his fantasy points from goals,
• 34:49
  assist and clean sheets, which is a lot.
• 34:51
  That's high, but forwards are high.
• 34:53
  But what? What's Holland?
• 34:54
  I bet you it's even more. 50. Is it OK?
• 34:56
  So I'm totally I'm totally wrong.
• 34:58
  Never mind then. So that actually changes OK.
• 35:01
  What do you think Cole Palmer is?
• 35:05
  Probably high 30s to mid 40s. 36 Nice. 36 yeah, yeah, I mean
• 35:11
  Palma, we we talked about Palma Fernandez to us in soccer like
• 35:15
  the the base, the baselines are so high with them because even
• 35:18
  if they're not scoring, they just create so much.
• 35:21
  I think Guemos is probably pretty good as well.
• 35:23
  I'm guessing, huh. Well, it was, yeah.
• 35:27
  It was 40. It was, it was 40.
• 35:30
  Yeah, yeah. We can talk about him in a
• 35:32
  second because that's who I took first round.
• 35:33
  Yeah. So after Holland, Yeah, Brian
• 35:36
  and Buemmo, that was you, Joe. You were in pick.
• 35:37
  Eight. I was in pick eight, yeah.
• 35:39
  Was there any concern, but was it between CUNY and Buemmo?
• 35:42
  Were those kind of the the two right there?
• 35:44
  Absolutely, absolutely. Those are the two.
• 35:46
  And then there's a drop off in my opinion.
• 35:47
  I mean, and even even pick eight, I felt like, so here,
• 35:53
  here's how this all happened. I organized the mock draft and
• 35:55
  I'd let everybody else pick their their draft picks and I
• 35:59
  just took whatever was left. And so the one that was left is
• 36:02
  8, which should maybe tell people something about the draft
• 36:06
  slots that you want this year. Although arguably now that I'm
• 36:09
  looking at this, I think maybe 10-11 are actually the worst
• 36:13
  ones on this board because I feel like I'm Bomo and Cunya are
• 36:17
  natural after pick 7, but after that it's really starts to get
• 36:24
  murky. I completely agree.
• 36:26
  I think one through 7 right now is pretty like you can go any of
• 36:30
  those ways and it's fine. Then then 8-9 and Buen Mocuna,
• 36:34
  like you probably don't feel as good about it, but they're there
• 36:36
  and you'll take them. But then yeah, after that, you
• 36:39
  know, you do Eze and as a first rounder, as you know, love Eze,
• 36:43
  but as a first rounder it doesn't feel great, right?
• 36:46
  You know, cuz you just don't, he doesn't have that high, high
• 36:47
  upside like some of these other guys.
• 36:50
  And then and then you're talking about drafting the first
• 36:52
  defender off the board, which unless, you know, that never
• 36:55
  feels good, you know, Yeah. And he had he has European
• 36:59
  football and it oh man, I just. Yeah.
• 37:04
  So in this mock draft, Eze went 10 and then Munez went 11 and
• 37:09
  then Anthony Semenyo went 12 and that was the first round.
• 37:11
  So we was kind of talking a little bit about Eze, but I
• 37:13
  think that, yeah, let's talk about Munez a little bit.
• 37:15
  So, yeah, so as you mentioned, European football, so we're just
• 37:19
  talking more games and then that team is, you know, do you
• 37:23
  remember how bad they were to start the season?
• 37:26
  They obviously finished so strong.
• 37:28
  So like that, I mean, not that, you know, I don't, I don't
• 37:30
  necessarily think that that means that they're going to be
• 37:32
  great all next season either. Like Gloucester kind of
• 37:35
  Gloucester's kind of known for having really slow starts the
• 37:38
  seasons. So you might see, you might see
• 37:40
  a similar pattern next year as well with a slow start from that
• 37:43
  whole team. So that's interesting.
• 37:46
  And then and then with defenders too, it's like it's just, I
• 37:49
  think they're the most unpredictable position.
• 37:50
  Even with the the the scoring change that really helped them.
• 37:54
  I still think that that position to me is just makes me a little
• 37:56
  nervous. Yeah, I mean as evidenced by the
• 37:59
  fact that there were only two taken in the 1st 4 full rounds
• 38:03
  of this draft. Yeah, Yep.
• 38:06
  Well, there were two. I'm surprised Poro didn't go
• 38:10
  along with those two. Somebody got a deal on him at
• 38:12
  5:00. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
• 38:14
  pretty wild. What else, Semenyo?
• 38:17
  What do you, what do you think about Semenyo?
• 38:22
  And you have something else. I'm, I'm just saying, I'm
• 38:23
  surprised that Bowen didn't go before Semenyo.
• 38:26
  I like Semenyo a lot, but we spoke about it before about his
• 38:29
  consistency, how he just does what he does in at West Ham, so.
• 38:33
  Bowen is my 11th right now. Bowen is my on my draft for it
• 38:37
  personally so I would take him over Munez and Semenya myself.
• 38:43
  I have just 11 too. Yeah.
• 38:45
  Look at that 11 frames. Yeah.
• 38:51
  Yeah. And so I'm curious what you made
• 38:53
  of the rest of the first round. Like what were your thoughts on
• 38:59
  on, on verts at six? Do you guys think that's too
• 39:00
  early? Just going on his his capability
• 39:04
  and the Liverpool team that is like you remember they didn't
• 39:07
  really, you guys only got Chieza last season, so that team won
• 39:10
  you the league, right. But now we've got Watts, Frim,
• 39:15
  Pong and Kurk has they've been bought for a reason, aren't they
• 39:19
  slots? Not buying them just to have
• 39:21
  them sit on the bench. So he's going to have a vital
• 39:23
  role and I think with the whole idea of Luis Diaz might be going
• 39:26
  to Saudi, he's going to have a big role in that attacking front
• 39:30
  3. So I think he can score goals,
• 39:33
  but how fast is his start? Or is he going to have a slow
• 39:37
  start? And, you know, it's a it's a
• 39:38
  physical league compared to the Bundeslig.
• 39:41
  Yeah. So we'll see I guess the.
• 39:43
  Question is, who else do you take?
• 39:44
  I mean, look at this first round, right?
• 39:46
  Like there's a clear drop off between Holland and Imbombo and
• 39:49
  Kunya, and then there's another clear drop off between them and
• 39:52
  Eze. Yeah.
• 39:54
  And even those two, Imbombo and Kunya, are question marks on
• 39:57
  their on their new teams. I completely agree.
• 40:00
  I think that's that's always something I am a little leery of
• 40:03
  when I'm drafting is like new managers, new teams, both of
• 40:07
  those things to me. You just never know.
• 40:08
  There's just a little bit of an unpredictable factor there if
• 40:11
  everything's going to really gel the same way.
• 40:13
  So yeah, those those are kind of red, red flag guys for me.
• 40:16
  But I think just the upside of how well they did last year, you
• 40:19
  just have to kind of swallow it. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:22
  And you know, soccer being Arsenal playing, being number
• 40:24
  one, that's the only time they're going to be #1 on any
• 40:27
  chart, so. I love it every chance you get.
• 40:32
  This is fantastic. OK.
• 40:34
  So Simenio, 12 and Bowen at the at the turn the two one and then
• 40:40
  Enzo Fernandez 22 feels a little early to be well is it?
• 40:45
  Does that feel really on point for you guys here?
• 40:47
  Let's just pump the brakes. It all depends on his how he's
• 40:49
  going to treat his misses, You know what I mean?
• 40:51
  Is he going to be out of the turn?
• 40:53
  Is he going to be, you know, sending out tweets that I want
• 40:56
  to be single again? He's going to ball out, but if
• 40:59
  he's tired at home, he can't do nothing and that's to just do
• 41:01
  cardio. He's going to be tired for the
• 41:02
  game, so. I don't know your your your
• 41:06
  league needs to be called like fan tracks, Love Island or
• 41:09
  something. It's true.
• 41:14
  Man. It's true.
• 41:15
  To answer your question, I have Enzo at 16.
• 41:18
  Currently, so that's 12, so you have a little further back.
• 41:21
  Yeah, I mean, but he's still he just based on what he did, he's
• 41:24
  still, he's still a second round pick and he's not gonna go under
• 41:28
  the radar like he did last year. Unfortunately.
• 41:31
  He won people leagues, yeah. Totally, Yeah, yeah, I think it
• 41:35
  was just the different and that's just such a manager
• 41:38
  thing, right. With Pot, she was playing a
• 41:39
  little further back. He just didn't have that kind of
• 41:41
  freedom with with Moresca, it's like, yeah, he's just in a
• 41:46
  complete, complete different position that suits him so much
• 41:48
  better. Which is so great.
• 41:49
  He's playing the Dewsbury Hall role from Leicester, right?
• 41:53
  Yes, yeah, yeah. Which I mean, he set, I mean, he
• 41:56
  set the Championship a light that year, so.
• 41:58
  Yeah, totally. All right then in the 23, Ahmad
• 42:02
  Diallo, what do you that one is interesting to me.
• 42:07
  I, I personally am a little leery of him and I know, I know.
• 42:11
  I think I'm in the minority of thinking that how do you, what
• 42:14
  do you guys, what do you guys kind of fall on him?
• 42:16
  I like Diallo. I liked him last season.
• 42:18
  I think he's a ball. I think he just needs to play
• 42:21
  more minutes. But where is he going to play in
• 42:23
  this Amerem team with Brian and Gwenbo and Kunya coming in?
• 42:28
  Like, where's he going to play? That's that's a conversation we
• 42:31
  can try to have considering the fact that supposedly United are
• 42:36
  still being linked with strikers.
• 42:39
  Everybody thought that Kunya was going to go there, but
• 42:41
  apparently not. Yeah, Yep, that.
• 42:44
  And then I think his, what is it?
• 42:47
  His XG numbers, he was pretty, he overformed his XG by a good
• 42:50
  amount. You know, I think it was +4 or
• 42:52
  something like that as well. Really.
• 42:54
  It was, it was pretty. It was higher than you'd think
• 42:56
  for the amount. I think he had eight goals and I
• 42:57
  think it's actually was like 4. +4 is a ton because I was going
• 43:00
  to bring up another player who over performed by plus four
• 43:04
  later. Oh.
• 43:06
  But so do you. Are you pulling it up right now,
• 43:10
  Joe? Because I don't have it.
• 43:10
  I don't have it right on me. But I think there was something,
• 43:13
  it was high, it was a higher number than I like to see on
• 43:17
  players. So that was something that was a
• 43:18
  little a points. Per start were high on him too.
• 43:21
  Yeah, I mean that's The thing is his points per starts are is
• 43:23
  incredibly high. So when he when he gets in and
• 43:25
  plays it's it's been exceptional.
• 43:27
  I just don't know that you can trust that type of return from a
• 43:31
  wing back that's, you know, that's not classified as a
• 43:35
  defender. 3.25. 3.25 yeah. That's a lot.
• 43:39
  That is a lot. Yeah, So that, that's my concern
• 43:43
  with Diallo. And I think in the same way that
• 43:44
  like I, I don't know if I'm, I'm gonna see Diallo in any drafts
• 43:47
  just because I just don't think I'm as hot as him on him as some
• 43:52
  people. And we have a few different
• 43:53
  Manchester United fans in our draft.
• 43:55
  So there's absolutely no chance I see it so ever.
• 43:58
  Segue into that. So how do you feel, Joe?
• 44:00
  Like we caught a couple player, couple guys in our league and
• 44:04
  they will they drop with their heart basically.
• 44:07
  And we have one guy, Kyle, he basically had like 8 Man United
• 44:10
  players at one point. Yeah.
• 44:12
  Like it's like win, win or lose, whether they win or lose, you
• 44:15
  know what I mean? So how do you feel about that?
• 44:17
  Is that you think that's a good strategy or not?
• 44:20
  I mean, this is the year to do it.
• 44:22
  Like I have a good friend who's also a Man United fan and he's
• 44:27
  he's basically been beaten down to the point where, I mean, it's
• 44:30
  where you want to see Man United fans.
• 44:31
  Like he's been beaten down to the point where where you know,
• 44:34
  he's just like, all right, you know, stop, stop.
• 44:36
  He's already dead. But, and he, he was, he was
• 44:40
  like, he was like, oh, well, you know, tell where are you ranking
• 44:43
  Man United players this year? And I was like, there's probably
• 44:47
  going to be 3 in the first round and four within the 1st 2
• 44:52
  rounds. And he's like, what?
• 44:55
  I was like, started listening to players.
• 44:56
  I was like, OK, Bruno Fernandez, Brian Umbomo, Matthias Cunha,
• 45:00
  Amad Diallo, Where where would you take him?
• 45:04
  And he's like, yeah, I guess. Yeah.
• 45:05
  OK. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 45:07
  So I mean, this is the year if you.
• 45:08
  But you can't stack those guys. There's no way to stack all.
• 45:10
  Of them, no you maybe you could maybe get 2 if you really lucky
• 45:14
  if like you know, you could get Cunha Diallo or Buembo Diallo
• 45:17
  maybe, but that's about it. I'm going to say the same thing
• 45:21
  I said last year. They can't do worse than they
• 45:23
  did last season. They they can't.
• 45:26
  They have to go higher than was it.
• 45:29
  I think they got 15 for the end, didn't they?
• 45:30
  Yeah. Wait, and you said the same
• 45:32
  thing last year. Good.
• 45:33
  They said the same thing because they because they came twelve.
• 45:36
  I was like, can't get any worse. Keep saying it because
• 45:40
  relegation has to happen soon. Oh, I'd fucking love it.
• 45:43
  It's what they get by having a leaky fucking roof.
• 45:46
  Throw your shit out. Best club in the world, my ass.
• 45:49
  All right, there you go. After after that 24 Gibbs White,
• 45:53
  I don't hate it. I know how.
• 45:55
  You know, I think he had a little bit of a from a points
• 45:57
  perspective, he didn't have his best season last year, but I
• 45:59
  think, you know, he's a he's a likable guy.
• 46:03
  You know, I think you're you're rooting for him.
• 46:05
  And then 25 Dwight McNeil. I feel like this is the first
• 46:07
  year I've seen him getting the respect he finally deserves from
• 46:11
  on draft boards all. Right, so here's where I can be
• 46:13
  honest with you. Yeah, this is where I can be
• 46:15
  honest with you. So that was me.
• 46:17
  I took Dwight McNeil after Brian Obomo, and I was hoping that
• 46:21
  either of Ahmad Diallo or Morgan Gibbs White would fall to me.
• 46:24
  And that's just it. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:27
  It's not bad though. Dwight Dwight McNeil?
• 46:30
  Was he 2425 in his prime? He's so much younger than he
• 46:33
  he's so much younger than he looks When he's I think of
• 46:36
  driving deal, I think he's like a 28 year old, you know, and he
• 46:39
  he. Didn't get to play.
• 46:40
  Yeah, he does. And he didn't get to play with,
• 46:42
  yeah, he didn't get to play with Moise that much.
• 46:45
  And I think he'll work in this moist thing, so.
• 46:49
  I think he will too. If you look at his stats, if you
• 46:52
  look at his stats to start the the last season, I mean, he was
• 46:55
  he was on track for, I mean not record setting, but he was on
• 46:59
  track for like one of those famous draft seasons.
• 47:01
  Like, yeah, I had in, I had in leagues and I was so smug.
• 47:05
  I was so smug. Yeah, you were so smug.
• 47:07
  You were a smug ball. And then and then I held on to
• 47:10
  him way too long because there was such a the injury was so
• 47:12
  uncertain for so long. And I just like, there's no way
• 47:14
  I was going to drop him and let someone else get him.
• 47:16
  So I held on to him for a disgusting amount of the season.
• 47:20
  I'll, I'll do the next one, Keith.
• 47:23
  OK, 26. 26 was Obi Wan Iwobi. I picked him up last season in
• 47:30
  the sixth round I believe. Beautiful pick, gets those Obi
• 47:34
  Wan like Jedi mind trick fucking points.
• 47:37
  I fucking love him. OK.
• 47:39
  But in the second round, do you still feel that way?
• 47:41
  I don't. Nope.
• 47:42
  I I think this is one of the ones.
• 47:43
  That's a big one. I think there's certain times
• 47:48
  where you when you look at a draft and you go you are
• 47:51
  drafting him for the absolute top, top, top of what is
• 47:56
  realistically possible. Well, this is 1 where it's like
• 47:59
  that's this is the absolute best case scenario for him as he
• 48:02
  maybe ends up around here at the end of the year.
• 48:03
  And I just don't like on a team like Fulham that's not as
• 48:06
  consistent. I just don't think that that's
• 48:08
  this is the the best that that spot for him.
• 48:10
  Well, the the tell that this guy, I don't know who picks Evan
• 48:13
  was, but I I love where he's at, but the five out of the next six
• 48:16
  players I would have picked right right before him in my
• 48:20
  opinion. Interesting.
• 48:22
  All right. So can we agree that last year
• 48:24
  was basically a banner year for a Wobi?
• 48:27
  Like, I mean, it was, it was the best you could possibly expect
• 48:31
  him to do, right? Yep.
• 48:32
  Mm hmm, I hopefully agree. And his points per start was
• 48:35
  11.2, which puts him just beneath players like Beto Dejan,
• 48:41
  Kulacewski, Dominic Sobuslai, Dango Watara, Harvey Barnes,
• 48:47
  Mats Wiefer, Yankuba Mente, Pedro Poro, etcetera.
• 48:52
  Yeah, so not not elite, not like that highest tier of players.
• 48:56
  The other thing too with Iwobi is I think he's another name
• 48:58
  that comes up if you look at XG over performers.
• 49:01
  I don't think he's quite as high as Diallo, but I think he was he
• 49:03
  had a pretty high over performance on XG as well.
• 49:07
  So that's 127. This is this is one I've been
• 49:11
  really struggling with on where to where to rank him is Omar
• 49:13
  Marmoush. And I think so much of it is
• 49:15
  just where he fits into the team and if he's gonna be a rotation
• 49:19
  piece or if him and Holland are gonna play in like a kind of a
• 49:22
  strike force up top together. And I feel like as pre season
• 49:26
  kicks on and we see a little more, I'll probably get a little
• 49:29
  a little more knowledge. But like as of right now in the
• 49:31
  Club World Cup, like they haven't, you know, they the last
• 49:34
  few games they haven't started together.
• 49:36
  So I don't know what that means. But I'm just it's I'm a little
• 49:40
  nervous by that one. Kara Matoma 28 and then Ollie
• 49:43
  Watkins 29. I have Ollie Watkins higher than
• 49:46
  this. I think I would have taken Ollie
• 49:47
  Watkins ahead of a few of these names here.
• 49:49
  I think Marmoush for sure, or will be for sure.
• 49:53
  And then arguably, you know, I think he's close to that Dwight
• 49:56
  McGill Gibbs white range for me. It's funny you say that because
• 49:59
  my rankings go McNeil, Watkins, Gibbs, White, but that's
• 50:02
  17/18/19. Funny, Yeah, Yeah.
• 50:04
  And then Luis Diaz, who we talked about, I mean, to me,
• 50:07
  this is a little bit of a drop if he stays, like I think you'd
• 50:11
  be stoked to get Luis Diaz here. A. 100%.
• 50:14
  Yeah, 100%. And then this next.
• 50:16
  Year, You're on track to winning this draft if you did.
• 50:18
  Yeah, the next 1 I actually wanted to spend a little bit of
• 50:21
  time on because Kyle Haver's at 2:11 and I just think the amount
• 50:25
  of noise around Arsenal getting a striker makes me feel like I I
• 50:29
  could never draft Kyle Haver to Yeah.
• 50:30
  He fucked me a lot. Because I think, you know, and I
• 50:32
  think it's also one of those ones that even if nothing
• 50:35
  changes between now and my draft, I still think that you're
• 50:39
  in danger of someone coming in at the end of the window and
• 50:42
  actually screwing your team over.
• 50:44
  Can we wait? Look at this pause.
• 50:45
  We're talking about Arsenal buying a striker.
• 50:49
  We're talking about that for three seasons.
• 50:51
  Here we go. Here we go.
• 50:52
  So the ultimate buying a striker is probably not going to bloody
• 50:55
  happen. You're going to see Kai Havers
• 50:57
  playing again up front. I think they will.
• 50:59
  I think they will. I think they will.
• 51:01
  I mean, I think they will too, but yeah, I know you mean.
• 51:06
  They're gonna buy. They're gonna buy a Championship
• 51:08
  striker. Remember when May and I did
• 51:10
  that? What was his name?
• 51:11
  Play for Watford, I think it was.
• 51:14
  Not then, not then. Weghorst.
• 51:17
  Yeah, there you go. That's what they're gonna get.
• 51:20
  And they'll say boom, league done second in the back.
• 51:24
  That was amazing. Oh my God.
• 51:27
  Yeah. So that's my concern with
• 51:28
  Harvard's. I think he falls quite far
• 51:30
  because of that for me. Not quite far, but farther down
• 51:33
  for me. Yeah, I mean, Ryan's argument
• 51:35
  for this one is that unless he didn't take him here, he even he
• 51:40
  thought this was a little bit early.
• 51:41
  But his argument is that essentially Arteta loves him and
• 51:48
  he's versatile. He can be used all over the
• 51:50
  pitch, that he can slot in in midfield, he can spell players
• 51:56
  that need to rest. And then also we'll start at
• 52:00
  striker regardless of who they sign.
• 52:03
  But I've already said I think if it's Yogaraj I think it's less,
• 52:06
  and if it's Cesco, I think it's more.
• 52:08
  Yeah, that great fair. And I think that with that role
• 52:13
  and a team, even a really good team, and I think Kai is a
• 52:17
  pretty good player. So to me, that's like fifth
• 52:19
  round, you know what I mean? Like I really, I just really do
• 52:24
  if, like if, if you're really if, if, if you know he's gonna
• 52:27
  be the starter, then I, I'm very OK with it.
• 52:30
  But not knowing that to me is just.
• 52:33
  I'm just really off it. I feel you.
• 52:35
  I won't get I won't get him either.
• 52:36
  And you won't saying that fifth round, you're not gonna.
• 52:38
  Get it? No, of course not.
• 52:40
  But all right, 12 to Anthony Gordon and then on the turn.
• 52:44
  So this was was Ryan one, right? Yeah, Ryan was.
• 52:47
  One, so then he went Gordon on and then Martin Odegard 31.
• 52:50
  So this was an interesting draft choice that he took, which is
• 52:53
  got 3 minutes, which is kind of kind of fun.
• 52:58
  I think he regretted it later, I think.
• 53:00
  But you know what, you know what show in the in past seasons, So
• 53:04
  I guess we haven't talked about this yet, but one of the things
• 53:06
  that you guys did is that you suggested a but a few different
• 53:09
  players get pushed up to forward, right?
• 53:11
  Yeah. Or no, sorry.
• 53:13
  Push to push back to mid, Push back to mid.
• 53:15
  Yep. So what what what that looks
• 53:17
  like is that now there's a little bit more of a balance
• 53:20
  between forwards and mids, correct.
• 53:22
  Well, hopefully. Yeah, ideally, ideally.
• 53:25
  That was ideally that was the idea.
• 53:27
  So, but then the further we got into this draft, we were like,
• 53:30
  oh man, mid is like super deep. And so we've kind of left
• 53:35
  ourselves hoping that more forwards would come into the
• 53:38
  league. The reason we do this is because
• 53:40
  when we recommend these changes to fan tracks, we say, hey, you
• 53:44
  know, when players come into the league, more often than not,
• 53:47
  Opta, which is the stats keeping company, whatever that fan
• 53:52
  tracks uses, Opta recommends that they go in as forwards.
• 53:55
  So we see a lot of those players come in as forwards, even if
• 53:59
  they're like wingers, we see them come in as forwards.
• 54:01
  So we're hoping that that happens and meanwhile now we've
• 54:05
  got, you know, kind of a boosted midfield, but now forward does
• 54:09
  feel a little bit light, I'll be honest.
• 54:11
  Must go and buy what what the next pick up was.
• 54:15
  Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, good,
• 54:18
  good. Good to know.
• 54:19
  But then I guess the next picks are three, two.
• 54:20
  Johann Wissa, what do you think about this pick?
• 54:22
  Because to me, this is another one where it's you're kind of
• 54:25
  drafting him on performance last year and not necessarily on
• 54:29
  projection for the year ahead. That that's a concern for me
• 54:34
  because I mean like love with side, obviously a great player,
• 54:36
  but I just without Guemo there, without Thomas Frank there, new
• 54:40
  coach. I don't know what that's gonna
• 54:41
  look like. I don't know.
• 54:42
  The system's gonna be. I just died.
• 54:45
  He's just a little not sure about that.
• 54:47
  Has some new coaches come out yet?
• 54:49
  Have they gone my new coach? No, they're.
• 54:51
  Saying it's gonna be. They're saying it's gonna be
• 54:53
  the. Pochettino.
• 54:54
  The the no the assistant, whoever that assistant.
• 54:57
  Oh, interesting. It's gonna be assistant.
• 54:59
  OK. Which they, that's what they did
• 55:02
  with Frank, right? And they?
• 55:03
  Yeah. They got fire in a bottle.
• 55:07
  So, yeah, I mean, with God, the man's a machine, honestly.
• 55:12
  I mean, he really is. The problem is he does not get
• 55:16
  ghost points. And so with Imbomo missing, I
• 55:20
  wonder what that looks like. I'm encouraged by the way that
• 55:24
  Shada ended the season. I'm encouraged by the season
• 55:28
  that Damsgard had. I feel like if they can bolster
• 55:31
  a little bit in attack that hopefully that you know, he'll
• 55:33
  be able to not replicate what he did.
• 55:36
  But because if you're if you're drafting on his last season,
• 55:39
  you're going to take him in the second round.
• 55:41
  So this is already a bit of a correction if you right, if you
• 55:44
  want to be kind of honest about that, I guess.
• 55:46
  Right. Yeah, but then you go look at
• 55:50
  you just said Damsgard there. I heard Norgaard might be out
• 55:53
  the door. I'm just worried that a few of
• 55:56
  their key pieces that creative players like Sade's not going
• 55:59
  nowhere. Loves Sade but if Norgard goes
• 56:03
  or even at dam like Damgard's a freaking baller.
• 56:06
  He shouldn't be playing at Brentford.
• 56:07
  But we'll see. But I just don't know if Wisher
• 56:09
  can do it on his own. Yeah, I think that's the
• 56:12
  concern. Shot us a forward now too, by
• 56:14
  the way, which is awesome. Snap.
• 56:16
  He he kind of felt like a cheat kind of felt like a cheat code
• 56:19
  as a mid last year because he was kind of he was he was one of
• 56:21
  the ones that I like sighed and I was like that one makes sense.
• 56:23
  Same with Bowen. I was like these are fair.
• 56:25
  Yep, adjustments, Yep yeah, next, next name 33 Yakuba Minta.
• 56:30
  This one is also interesting to me because I think like same
• 56:33
  with Amanda where he the points per start are good and like he
• 56:38
  has so many things that he does, like his dribbles and like his
• 56:40
  baseline is so high, but he only had 17 starts last season,
• 56:43
  right? And to me that's just a little
• 56:46
  too few of starts to justify this.
• 56:49
  And even if like and I guess the idea is that he's going to kick
• 56:51
  on and you're just being really optimistic that he gets more
• 56:53
  game time this year. Is that kind of what the thought
• 56:55
  process is? I think that's a thought
• 56:57
  process. I'm, I'm also concerned, I hate
• 57:00
  the rotation there. It's, it's madding.
• 57:02
  It's absolutely madding. As somebody who rostered Matoma
• 57:04
  last year, I mean, it's just, it's just madding.
• 57:09
  I agree. I know this is one of the
• 57:10
  players that Ryan had mentioned when he you know, he he's the
• 57:13
  nickname the wood whisperer. You know how he called out Wood
• 57:16
  last season, but he also. On our draft, yeah.
• 57:18
  Yeah, but he also called out Minter also, you know, even
• 57:21
  coming from Newcastle. But yeah, he looks like a good
• 57:24
  player. But like you said, the rotation
• 57:26
  at Brian is is murderous. It's terrible.
• 57:29
  Yeah, that's the concern and I think, you know that.
• 57:33
  I think that's the other reason why the job pager thing, it was
• 57:35
  like anywhere but there. You know, I think Mita falls
• 57:38
  into that same thing where I think if a lot of other teams,
• 57:40
  like if if Newcastle had been able to hold on to him, you
• 57:43
  know, if they had just been able to do a loan and got him back
• 57:45
  this year, you think that he'd be an elite player.
• 57:49
  You know a. 100% yeah. The the one position that they
• 57:53
  desperately need and they decide let's go ahead and just we'll
• 57:57
  just sell him. No big deal.
• 57:59
  He never even put on a Newcastle jersey, so it's fucking
• 58:02
  ridiculous. Well, it's, it's really, it's
• 58:04
  not their fault, even Newcastle, because it was, it was a PSR
• 58:06
  thing. They had to do it at the last
• 58:07
  minute to not get zapped by PSR. So it's just such a, it's just,
• 58:10
  it's, it's a yelling at the gods of PSR and not so much Newcastle
• 58:15
  there. Yeah, I don't feel bad for the
• 58:16
  Saudis. Sorry.
• 58:17
  I. Was gonna say oh, you just like
• 58:20
  pay the same lawyers that see yeah, see he's got.
• 58:23
  The true yeah, that's true. Or find the same accountants
• 58:26
  that Chelsea has is. That the whole what you mean
• 58:29
  you're doing like Dodger deals like 10 years?
• 58:31
  I just don't get paid for like 20 years.
• 58:33
  Selling, selling the women's team to ourselves, you know, so.
• 58:36
  Yeah. Do you see?
• 58:37
  Did you see Alison Villas doing the exact same thing?
• 58:39
  Really. Yeah, they're doing the exact
• 58:41
  same thing. Yeah.
• 58:42
  Classic. I love it.
• 58:44
  First they get pissed at us and they start copying at us.
• 58:46
  Yeah, Oh my God. OK, so 3-4 Declan Rice a little
• 58:51
  early for me. I thought Enzo has had a good
• 58:53
  theory about him kind of kicking on and he's he's a really
• 58:56
  Goodyear. Was Zuba Mendi there thinking
• 58:58
  that he's gonna play more advanced?
• 59:00
  He's a false 9. Four years.
• 59:02
  He's not. A false 9.
• 59:04
  He's a false 9. He's.
• 59:05
  A false, I don't know what he's a false.
• 59:07
  He's not a false no. No, no, sorry, not a false 9.
• 59:09
  He's a false 10. He's he plays up, he plays in
• 59:12
  the middle. That's what he can.
• 59:14
  That's what it was. He's a false 10.
• 59:15
  He's he can be attacking. There's over many there.
• 59:17
  He's and I hate this. I'm I'm a top fan.
• 59:19
  I fucking hate it, but I love I love deckers.
• 59:21
  If he can get the ball and if he can learn how to turn on the
• 59:25
  half turn, he's going to be freaking ridiculous.
• 59:27
  That's the only thing he's got against it.
• 59:28
  He can carry the ball and he can set up play corners.
• 59:32
  I think he's gonna get a few more, few more free kicks off
• 59:34
  the way he did the Real Madrid and we'll see how it goes.
• 59:36
  Arsenal midfielders are going to frustrate you like they they
• 59:39
  just are from time to time. Like Odegard will have stretches
• 59:43
  of three games where he doesn't score more than 5.
• 59:47
  Martinelli, same thing. Like when you look at Rice and
• 59:50
  the way that he ended the season, 1019 point
• 59:53
  2518.501713.5, it's incredible. But that zero in 90 minutes
• 1:00:01
  against Crystal Palace is wild. But regardless, I mean, that's
• 1:00:05
  that's a pretty epic end of the season.
• 1:00:07
  And if that's what he's going to look like starting this season,
• 1:00:10
  then it's hard not to buy in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Fair enough. After that 35 Pedro Netto, we
• 1:00:16
  kind of talked about him at the top of the show.
• 1:00:18
  Yeah, I don't I don't hate it. I think it's optimistic that
• 1:00:21
  he's going to be playing every game.
• 1:00:22
  But I think he has the pedigree and I like I, I can't really
• 1:00:25
  blame anyone for for taking that three six well.
• 1:00:29
  Hold on real quick, real quick, Keith.
• 1:00:30
  So also as you say that, just do me a favor and look at the the
• 1:00:34
  forwards that are left available.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's a really good point.
• 1:00:38
  I'm looking at this. What?
• 1:00:39
  It's Son who who knows what's going to happen there, and Jon
• 1:00:42
  Pedro who knows Jimenez, Mateta Solanke.
• 1:00:48
  But there's and. You're going in the Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  You can feel the drop off. Yeah.
• 1:00:52
  You can feel it. Oh.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, and what Madoeke is now a mid, huh?
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, Savio Savio's now a mid. Yep, yeah, yeah, Madoeke was
• 1:01:03
  Savio. Oh, he wasn't.
• 1:01:04
  Is now a mid. Yep, yes, yeah.
• 1:01:07
  I mean, that's a really good point.
• 1:01:08
  That's a really good point, Joe, that that that drop off is scary
• 1:01:11
  and that's there's not much there that this almost makes me
• 1:01:14
  feel like going for a forward, an elite first round forward.
• 1:01:17
  It seems like a must in the 1st 2:00.
• 1:01:19
  So pick two goes Salah, Haverts, Whisa.
• 1:01:23
  I'll be curious to see what you guys think about their midfield,
• 1:01:26
  you know, going forward. And then, of course, pick 12
• 1:01:30
  goes Semenyo Bowen, and then we'll get to their pick.
• 1:01:32
  But yeah, yeah. Yeah, that looks.
• 1:01:38
  Good. Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  So then 36 Anthony Robinson. I actually think I'm not mad at
• 1:01:42
  this pic. I think it's pretty good.
• 1:01:44
  This person got a claim in the chat for getting value there.
• 1:01:49
  Yeah, totally. I think I might have been the
• 1:01:51
  one that gave that a claim, actually.
• 1:01:52
  Was that you? Yeah.
• 1:01:54
  But I, I just think that, like, Muniz and Robinson, to me,
• 1:01:57
  aren't that far apart as far as like what their potential are.
• 1:02:01
  Robinson at 11 assists or 10 assists.
• 1:02:03
  Robinson. Munez had what, six goals, 4
• 1:02:06
  assists? I think Anthony Robinson has
• 1:02:09
  some of the best. Like, you know, she's such a
• 1:02:12
  good just gets up and down the field the same way Munez says.
• 1:02:14
  I just don't see that much daylight between them as far as
• 1:02:18
  potential. So I think getting him in the
• 1:02:21
  sixth round is amazing value compared to Munez in the first.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  And then who were talking about a minute ago, Damsgard 37.
• 1:02:30
  Pretty, pretty good. So I'm not at it.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah. I think it's that's appropriate.
• 1:02:34
  Yeah, Kulasefsky 3/8 So I, I just.
• 1:02:37
  Felt my feelings all right. Enzo, I need positive or
• 1:02:41
  negative. I need to talk to you about
• 1:02:42
  this. Yeah, OK.
• 1:02:44
  This was my pick Enzo. So my my question for you is so
• 1:02:49
  that Damsgard role in the frank system, who takes it?
• 1:02:53
  Is it so I so I OK, so I I took this pick on the on the
• 1:03:01
  supposition that Kuleski takes that Damsgard role.
• 1:03:06
  I believe the same thing. That's value.
• 1:03:09
  That is definitely value. That's why I'm upset that he got
• 1:03:12
  picked in the third round. Oh, you want him to fall more to
• 1:03:16
  you? I see.
• 1:03:16
  What are what are the chances like?
• 1:03:18
  You don't think there's any chance Madison takes that role?
• 1:03:21
  That's the other one. That's the other one that it
• 1:03:23
  could do. But if you look at the way
• 1:03:25
  Damsgard plays, I think Kuleshevsky can play that better
• 1:03:30
  with more carrying the ball, the way he the way he protects the
• 1:03:33
  ball. If he can just get that pass
• 1:03:35
  along, which I think there'll be more runs into the box compared
• 1:03:39
  to with, you know, big Ange, rest in peace.
• 1:03:43
  I think Krasinski could be more creative and that he he's going
• 1:03:47
  to be big this year. Just hope so.
• 1:03:50
  That's big. Yeah, that was my thinking
• 1:03:51
  there. Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  I mean, I think with that, so all that being said, I, I don't
• 1:03:57
  hate it. I, I think to me it's just, it's
• 1:03:59
  just that that uncertainty, it's not a locked in thing that he's
• 1:04:01
  guaranteed that position and we won't really know until the
• 1:04:03
  season starts, you know, if it is him or if it is Madison that
• 1:04:07
  kind of locks that in. So that's that's where I get
• 1:04:09
  nervous. I just get nervous, you know?
• 1:04:11
  No, I get that Keith. Are there mids taken after that
• 1:04:14
  that you would rather have? I mean, looking at it, I might
• 1:04:19
  go Foden just on just on the on the upside that that's there,
• 1:04:24
  you know, and just the fact that I I think that Foden's a good
• 1:04:27
  enough player that that one bad season, I could see him coming
• 1:04:30
  back and being delivering second value pretty easily, especially
• 1:04:34
  with KDB gone. Yeah, and I think after that, I
• 1:04:39
  get it. Like there's no one that stands
• 1:04:41
  out as, you know, super, super exciting so.
• 1:04:45
  Did Chucky, I mean did Chucky get picked up?
• 1:04:49
  Yeah, he's at 5:11. Yeah, he's later.
• 1:04:53
  And I mean that. That to me is one that's such a
• 1:04:55
  dice roll. Like that could be a such a high
• 1:04:57
  reward pick, but it's also with in a City team where there's so
• 1:05:01
  much rotation, it's so hard to really know kind of what that's
• 1:05:03
  going to look like. I mean, I I just wrote an
• 1:05:05
  article about the the effects of the Club World Cup on draft
• 1:05:10
  fantasy assets and one of the things that stood out was that
• 1:05:14
  Turkey has only played 30% of the minutes available at the
• 1:05:18
  Club World Cup. Yep, doesn't surprise me.
• 1:05:21
  I mean, it's Pep's so funny cuz for years it was like, oh, Pep's
• 1:05:24
  gonna, he takes a while to bed players in and then maybe last
• 1:05:27
  year if there's like or certain players all of a sudden it feels
• 1:05:29
  like now he just throws them in right away and they play a ton
• 1:05:31
  of minutes. Then you don't see them again
• 1:05:33
  for like 2 months. Yeah, you know, it's so he's so
• 1:05:35
  fickle. It's like you can't really ever
• 1:05:37
  get a sense of how he how he's gonna do things.
• 1:05:40
  So that that's to me where the hold up is there.
• 1:05:42
  He's a genius. Yeah. 39 Morgan Rogers goes not
• 1:05:48
  mad at it. And then 310 Phil Foden.
• 1:05:51
  Morgan Rogers is interesting to me because I think a lot of his
• 1:05:53
  value is in that he's going to improve.
• 1:05:56
  You know, like he had a he had a good season, but what's his
• 1:05:59
  points were starting were exceptional.
• 1:06:01
  He's one of the most frustrating fantasy assets you can ever get
• 1:06:04
  in bed with. I I would highly recommend
• 1:06:07
  nobody if if you are at all irritable, I would say do not
• 1:06:12
  draft Morgan Rogers. You're going to be so frustrated
• 1:06:15
  by this man. That's.
• 1:06:17
  Well, yeah. And that that that is that just
• 1:06:19
  a inconsistency thing. So there's.
• 1:06:21
  Yeah, yeah, he's going to. Yeah, he's going to score.
• 1:06:23
  He's going to score 35 one week when you didn't actually need
• 1:06:26
  him to because you were already winning, and then the next week
• 1:06:28
  is going to get you .5 when he was, you know, the last match up
• 1:06:32
  of the game week and you needed him to win.
• 1:06:33
  I mean, Morgan Rogers points per start 9.5 that's that's not
• 1:06:37
  really that great. What do you think about it?
• 1:06:40
  Right. It's like, so yeah, I, I
• 1:06:42
  totally, I I'm not mad. I totally get that.
• 1:06:45
  I totally got your shot there, but.
• 1:06:46
  I would I would 10 times out of 10 have gone tila months in
• 1:06:50
  that. Situation tila months I think.
• 1:06:52
  I just saw him right there. I feel like he dropped a little
• 1:06:55
  bit and I think it's cuz he's not as sexy as some of the other
• 1:06:57
  midfielders. You know, he's a little bit more
• 1:06:58
  of that kind of efficient midfielder, kind of does both
• 1:07:01
  sides of the work, you know, works on both sides of the ball
• 1:07:04
  and stuff. And people just tend to kind of
• 1:07:05
  overlook those types of mids. So 310 Foden, then 311 Son.
• 1:07:10
  And I think this is such an interesting one too, because
• 1:07:12
  it's just about what he's going to be, you know, what he's going
• 1:07:15
  to be, what his role is in this Tottenham team.
• 1:07:17
  Tell a cento. It's like he's getting older.
• 1:07:21
  I love Sonny, you know, I mean, I love him.
• 1:07:23
  I love him, love him, love him. But he doesn't run at players
• 1:07:27
  anymore. I don't know if that's just the
• 1:07:28
  coach. And I think it might have been
• 1:07:30
  lost the last couple season of Avenge.
• 1:07:32
  You didn't see the runs they used to make.
• 1:07:33
  He doesn't cut inside, doesn't take the long shots, but he
• 1:07:37
  still had a good season last season.
• 1:07:39
  But under Thomas Frank, I don't know what he's going to be.
• 1:07:45
  Is he going to do what and Bwenbo did?
• 1:07:48
  Is he going to do what Whisa did?
• 1:07:49
  I don't. Think about the wingers under
• 1:07:52
  Frank. Yeah, I mean, it's mouth
• 1:07:54
  watering. It is, but he hasn't done it for
• 1:07:57
  two years. I don't know if he's got it
• 1:07:59
  still, if he's got the leg. In his worst year of all time,
• 1:08:04
  in his worst year of all time, he was 318 fantasy points, 10.6
• 1:08:10
  points per game. I don't have the points per
• 1:08:11
  start in front of me, but but yeah, that's that's not bad.
• 1:08:15
  No, it's not bad. I agree.
• 1:08:17
  I think. I think it's just a matter of if
• 1:08:18
  he, it's a matter of him, like potentially leaving 12. .1
• 1:08:22
  points per start. And it's worse, Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  I mean, even last year, people were so people were so
• 1:08:26
  disappointed in him. And when you really look at the
• 1:08:27
  numbers, you go, that wasn't that bad at all.
• 1:08:29
  It's pretty good. Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  It. Wasn't it's, I guess what that
• 1:08:32
  point it's, it's .1 ahead of Eberici Eze, Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Who goes in the first round? Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  I mean, that might be one that's a like kind of a not like a
• 1:08:43
  sleeper, but like a value pick for where you're gonna, where
• 1:08:45
  he's gonna drop in drafts. It's a really good shot
• 1:08:47
  actually. Well, I'm a sucker like the top
• 1:08:49
  of them players so of. Course you are.
• 1:08:52
  Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Kudos goes there then
• 1:08:55
  without effects on. No play on the right.
• 1:08:58
  They both want to come up. Kudos plays on the right, I
• 1:09:00
  think. Oh yeah, I guess you are right.
• 1:09:01
  No. Kudos plays on the right, he'll
• 1:09:02
  take over Bart Simpson on the right hand side.
• 1:09:06
  Brendan Rodgers. Yeah, Brendan Ross.
• 1:09:08
  Brendan Brendan Rodgers. He does.
• 1:09:11
  He does have a little, he does have a has a little Simpson
• 1:09:13
  Levada. We've talked about that sort of
• 1:09:15
  our shout out. It's the teeth, man.
• 1:09:18
  It's the teeth. Just thinking about Brendan
• 1:09:21
  Rodgers still trying to play football at this amazing, all
• 1:09:26
  right. OK, 312 Tavern A This one was
• 1:09:29
  really weird, right? Was that?
• 1:09:31
  Yeah. Is there anything else that you
• 1:09:32
  can say? All right, 12th pick was Toddy
• 1:09:34
  and he was just on one like he I told people not to try to blow
• 1:09:40
  up this draft with weird picks, but as you can.
• 1:09:43
  See if. If you look at his team, he was
• 1:09:47
  just swinging for the fences. Like he he wrote an article
• 1:09:51
  years ago called Drafting for First or Last, meaning like you
• 1:09:56
  don't draft, you know, you don't draft your like, let me just
• 1:09:59
  pick a player like you don't draft Ryan Christie, right?
• 1:10:02
  Instead, you draft somebody who potentially has a chance of
• 1:10:05
  blowing up and absolutely winning you a leak.
• 1:10:08
  So that is his kind of that's his, that's his approach here.
• 1:10:13
  And yeah, it got a little bit wild at times, so.
• 1:10:16
  It's like, it's like the the Ricky Bobby approach.
• 1:10:18
  You might say it's more. Like your last.
• 1:10:22
  No, I think it's more like the hope kills you.
• 1:10:26
  About two. So his probably his best week is
• 1:10:28
  the week before the game start a lot of times.
• 1:10:30
  Right, Right, right. All right.
• 1:10:33
  So in the interest of time, I'm not sure Joe, where you're at,
• 1:10:35
  but if you kind of if we just want to maybe just kind of pick
• 1:10:37
  and choose some names here instead of going through
• 1:10:39
  everything you think? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah, no, you're good. I got, I mean, I got, I got
• 1:10:42
  time. But we can also Fast forward
• 1:10:44
  whatever you want to. Do yeah, maybe we just do that
• 1:10:47
  so that we don't, you know, we could stay here for four more
• 1:10:49
  hours. Yeah, totally the best.
• 1:10:51
  OK, One question for me is the Savio and Doku situation.
• 1:10:56
  And not so much because they play the same position, but so
• 1:10:58
  much that they both are wingers and they both had really high
• 1:11:01
  points for starts and are every single time they start start a
• 1:11:04
  game, you need to play them, but they don't.
• 1:11:06
  They didn't start a consistent enough amount of games.
• 1:11:09
  Do you feel like is that does that hurting their fantasy
• 1:11:11
  value? And I'm surprised at the
• 1:11:13
  distance between them because to me they're almost like
• 1:11:15
  back-to-back and drafts because it's just like, you just don't
• 1:11:17
  know kind of what goes where, what goes where.
• 1:11:21
  I drafted Savio here because I thought he would have been good
• 1:11:25
  for more minutes than Doku, and I still think that's probably
• 1:11:31
  true, but it's maybe negligible. If I can nerd out on you for a
• 1:11:35
  second, like I told you, I wrote that Club World Cup article.
• 1:11:38
  So what we're seeing from Pep is a crazy new system where
• 1:11:43
  basically on offense, they are running like a 136 where
• 1:11:51
  literally all of the attackers are pushed up as far as they
• 1:11:54
  possibly can on the defensive line.
• 1:11:57
  And then their midfielders, if you want to call them that, are
• 1:12:02
  dropping into space to kind of receive the ball.
• 1:12:06
  So these are going to be your Photons, your Gundo ones, your
• 1:12:09
  Silvas, your Rinders, etcetera. So they're dropping in and then
• 1:12:14
  all the other players are just making runs, cutting in.
• 1:12:18
  I mean, it's, it's crazy. And it is like balls to the
• 1:12:21
  wall. I think they're going to score a
• 1:12:23
  buck ton of goals this year. I fucking told you, Keith, he
• 1:12:27
  was going to do something fucking crazy.
• 1:12:29
  I fucking told you he's going to play center, mid by center, back
• 1:12:32
  to the midfielders. I fucking knew it.
• 1:12:35
  I, I like it. I mean, I, I had Savio last year
• 1:12:38
  and Tiko Doki last year and we both, I mean, the headache is
• 1:12:41
  just not knowing they're going to start games.
• 1:12:44
  Yeah, we we have. AI think that's a concern?
• 1:12:47
  Yeah, we have a senses among the three of us that we don't like
• 1:12:49
  waking up at 4:30 to see that. I think that's, yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:53
  It's a legitimate concern as a West Coast viewer too, that that
• 1:12:56
  is actually something you really need to consider.
• 1:12:58
  It's like, do I really want to be waking up at 4:00 in the
• 1:13:01
  morning like 100% out of the month to to make it to see if
• 1:13:05
  this guy's playing or not? Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  So, but I mean, I think just it's about if you were if you
• 1:13:10
  knew they're guaranteed 25 plus starts.
• 1:13:14
  I think they're no brainer, you know?
• 1:13:16
  Yeah, no brainer. It's a little concerning, but.
• 1:13:18
  But if I'm you guys on the West Coast, maybe I take Tila ones
• 1:13:21
  there instead. Yeah, totally.
• 1:13:23
  I think that's fair. Another name James Murphy here.
• 1:13:27
  Like my concern, I keep trying to say this to Enzo Tico and
• 1:13:30
  they don't seem to be getting it to me as much as that's
• 1:13:33
  concerned, is that the amount of interest Newcastle has in all
• 1:13:36
  these right sided attackers. It makes me think that they they
• 1:13:40
  don't have a lot of faith that Murphy is going to be that guy,
• 1:13:42
  the guy for like a whole another year.
• 1:13:44
  So I I'm concerned someone's going to come in.
• 1:13:46
  No. And that's why I have a hard
• 1:13:48
  time drafting Murphy in this spot.
• 1:13:52
  Dude, Charlie Murphy is a fucking bowler.
• 1:13:55
  James Murphy. No, Yeah.
• 1:13:56
  But I'm calling him Charlie Murphy.
• 1:13:59
  The way he plays on that right hand side, the creativeness, I
• 1:14:02
  know he was a little bit inconsistent.
• 1:14:03
  I think that was what I was looking for a little bit more
• 1:14:05
  from him, but I don't see, I told you guys he's he's in
• 1:14:09
  Europe, so they're going to rotate.
• 1:14:11
  I just don't know if he's going to play in Europe or the league.
• 1:14:12
  But my, my guess is if they get someone that's, you know, higher
• 1:14:15
  class, he's going to get rotated.
• 1:14:17
  But I still think Murphy's a big piece, especially in the fourth
• 1:14:20
  round. I think that's a great thing.
• 1:14:21
  Not for me. Yeah, I, I mean, it was such an
• 1:14:26
  amazing story last year, right? Just how well he came on and how
• 1:14:29
  good he did. And he, he's probably someone
• 1:14:31
  that won. So if you picked him up off
• 1:14:33
  waivers, he won you leagues. He won people leagues last year
• 1:14:35
  totally. But yeah, I think that's my
• 1:14:37
  concern too. It's just is it is that was that
• 1:14:40
  the future was that are you dropping him off, you know, a
• 1:14:43
  little bit of what happened last year and is and then how
• 1:14:46
  realistic is that? I mean, they're, they're
• 1:14:48
  actively shopping for, right? Wingers, yeah.
• 1:14:51
  And, and I just generally like if I'm looking at the players
• 1:14:54
  that are available, I'm I'm going to take Clivet ahead of
• 1:14:57
  him. I know he ended the year
• 1:14:58
  terribly, but still, I'm going to take Clivet ahead of him.
• 1:15:01
  I'm going to take Doku ahead of him.
• 1:15:03
  I'm going to take Sobuslie ahead of him.
• 1:15:05
  Yeah, that's maybe even Mcal's. I don't know, maybe.
• 1:15:11
  OK, what about Chris Wood dropping to 5 seven?
• 1:15:14
  I think we've talked about this and when you were talking about
• 1:15:17
  your players to avoid, he was the one I was thinking of.
• 1:15:19
  Everything you were describing was streaming Chris Wood to me.
• 1:15:21
  Where? It's well, he.
• 1:15:22
  He was the one. You know, he was the one I was
• 1:15:24
  going to bring up in terms of XG over performance.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah, that's you. Have you looked?
• 1:15:30
  He he scored, he scored twenty goals, he over performed his XG
• 1:15:36
  by almost 4.5. Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  I mean think of how that what affected his fantasy scores.
• 1:15:42
  Absolutely. And also just, I think the thing
• 1:15:44
  about force is like they over performed every X metric, you
• 1:15:48
  know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:49
  Conceded X points. It was just, yeah.
• 1:15:51
  So I think it's a little bit of lightning in a bottle there to
• 1:15:55
  some extent, so. And now did they?
• 1:15:58
  Am I wrong? Did they have Conference League?
• 1:16:02
  They do. So they're gonna have Thursday
• 1:16:04
  nights in Uzbekistan. Yeah.
• 1:16:08
  You know about that kid? And and Chris Woods, yes, I do.
• 1:16:12
  I know about that trophy too though, so I'll.
• 1:16:14
  Take this. Absolutely.
• 1:16:15
  You had to round up the trophy cabinet.
• 1:16:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got Europa.
• 1:16:18
  You'd be like Mourinho. Yeah.
• 1:16:20
  Never going back. I'll be getting the tattoo, you
• 1:16:22
  know, just like Maria. The three trophies, That trophy,
• 1:16:24
  Yeah, 3 trophies. So then right after that, so
• 1:16:28
  Chris Wood went 5-7. After that you took Liam de Lapp
• 1:16:31
  and then I then we kind of noticed and Sergey wanted us to
• 1:16:34
  bring up that then at 65, you took Nico Jackson.
• 1:16:37
  This was totally just a total handcuff situation, huh A?
• 1:16:39
  100% And of course, given this, given what happened yesterday, I
• 1:16:43
  would never do this again. Uh huh.
• 1:16:46
  But, or given what even what happened maybe a week ago with
• 1:16:48
  Jackson getting that red, it was.
• 1:16:50
  A red card game. Yeah, that second red in five
• 1:16:52
  games or whatever it was. Yep.
• 1:16:54
  But yeah, I actually, I, you know, obviously prior to that
• 1:16:57
  news, I really like the idea though.
• 1:16:59
  And I think this is something that people should do more in
• 1:17:01
  fantasy drafts is like protect your assets a little bit.
• 1:17:05
  I mean, you tell me. So like, would you rather have
• 1:17:08
  had, let's see, Kevin Schott already went Oh, God.
• 1:17:12
  OK, so would you rather have had Evan Nielsen?
• 1:17:15
  And what the fuck? Evan Nielsen and Strand Larson,
• 1:17:21
  two every week starters, 90 minutes versus Dilap and
• 1:17:27
  Jackson. It's an it's an honest question.
• 1:17:29
  I don't know what what my answer is.
• 1:17:32
  I I think if, if job pages out there, I think I might go to
• 1:17:37
  dilap Jackson because it's you're lucky in a position on an
• 1:17:39
  elite team, you know, elite, quote UN quote.
• 1:17:42
  But I think with the what the the value of Evan Nielsen and
• 1:17:45
  Trent Larson is that you it's just just more chance that one
• 1:17:48
  of them is going to pop, you know, yeah, you have a really
• 1:17:51
  good season. But I think at the end of the
• 1:17:53
  day, like the smart thing to do would probably just be lock in
• 1:17:55
  the Chelsea striker. Then then two guys that even as
• 1:17:59
  someone who likes Evan Nielsen, Strand Larsen and I think he had
• 1:18:02
  good moments last year, but obviously a little inconsistent.
• 1:18:05
  But I think getting that top position, I think I'd rather
• 1:18:07
  have that, yeah, personally. Are you, are you not in
• 1:18:11
  hindsight, do you kind of think opposite?
• 1:18:13
  I, I wrote a whole article on this.
• 1:18:14
  I mean, I, I did AI did an entire analysis of this draft
• 1:18:17
  and which people can look at on the, on the draft kit.
• 1:18:20
  But, but basically, yeah, I did regret it a little bit.
• 1:18:24
  I mean, if you look at my, my third forward was I waited until
• 1:18:29
  the 12th round to get for Lopez, who I don't even actually
• 1:18:32
  believe in all that much. So I, I, I'm just going to end
• 1:18:35
  up trotting out two forwards week in and week out, which is
• 1:18:38
  fine honestly. But you know, I, I think I would
• 1:18:41
  have rather, probably strengthened a little bit more.
• 1:18:45
  I think one of one of the midfielders I took in the 1st 7
• 1:18:49
  rounds I probably could have substituted for a forward.
• 1:18:52
  Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah.
• 1:18:54
  So I guess the the question is, is cuz these picks were so close
• 1:18:57
  together is what the problem is. So it's like maybe it's if
• 1:19:00
  you're getting Saka and you got in wary in the area like in the
• 1:19:04
  12th and that's that's like a really safe way to kind of
• 1:19:07
  protect your asset, right. But maybe it's maybe it's when
• 1:19:10
  it's guys too close. Like you wouldn't you wouldn't
• 1:19:12
  necessarily want to get Savio and Doku, you know, even though
• 1:19:16
  they they will yeah, so you wouldn't want to get them
• 1:19:19
  back-to-back, especially when they're going in drafts.
• 1:19:21
  So maybe maybe that that handcuff, it should be more of a
• 1:19:25
  like a first 3 rounds and then. I'm trying to think of another
• 1:19:30
  parallel to that like Enzo, would you ever consider drafting
• 1:19:34
  like a a handful of son Brendan Johnson and Matthias Tell?
• 1:19:40
  Together. Yeah, that's only from, only
• 1:19:42
  from Psycho I was. Going to say that seems silly,
• 1:19:46
  right? Like that's.
• 1:19:46
  Yeah, yeah, that doesn't. Yeah, I wouldn't.
• 1:19:48
  It's just because tell. We don't know what's going to
• 1:19:50
  get from him, but maybe Son and Solanke.
• 1:19:53
  Maybe because Solanke. What about what about Foden and
• 1:19:58
  they getting shirky in like the 6th?
• 1:20:00
  Or you know, if you have Foden the third and then Shirky in the
• 1:20:03
  5th or something. Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  I mean the the question of course is always like, like who
• 1:20:09
  is, who's the handcuff to any position on city?
• 1:20:13
  Yeah, that's true. Like you've no, you've no idea.
• 1:20:17
  I mean, you know that Holland and Marmouche are, but you're
• 1:20:22
  not going to get them together unless you spend your second and
• 1:20:25
  third round pick. Which is suicide.
• 1:20:27
  Yeah, I wouldn't do that ever yeah, I mean, so it handcuffs, I
• 1:20:31
  think are they can be a poisoned chalice if if you don't do it
• 1:20:34
  right. Five and six.
• 1:20:35
  I I guess I was willing to to try it in this draft.
• 1:20:39
  I think looking back, I wouldn't do this in a real.
• 1:20:40
  Draft, Yeah, good, good to know. And then Speaking of 6/10 for in
• 1:20:45
  way in yare to me is way too high.
• 1:20:48
  Way too early. Insanely, insanely early.
• 1:20:51
  And that is he in 611? I'm sorry.
• 1:20:53
  Is he in also fan #3? It's the only way I could
• 1:20:56
  justify I. Can't remember who that was.
• 1:20:59
  You can't even justify it to be honest.
• 1:21:00
  No, it's I think Ryan at Noy at 611 is a really good value.
• 1:21:06
  I personally. I, I, I want to, I want to be
• 1:21:11
  careful how many times I say this out loud.
• 1:21:15
  He is going to be massive this year.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah. I, and I'm not going to
• 1:21:22
  publicize that often because I really want to get him in my
• 1:21:26
  draft. He is going to be fucking
• 1:21:28
  massive. He has been insane at the Club
• 1:21:30
  World Cup. He has been just absolutely
• 1:21:33
  incredible. He's played the vast majority of
• 1:21:36
  minutes at that position. He's in Pep's plans.
• 1:21:39
  I mean, he, he's just, he's going to be great.
• 1:21:43
  We've, yeah, we feel, I think we feel the same way.
• 1:21:45
  We've loved him for years and the only thing that was holding
• 1:21:47
  him back was playing for wolves, you know?
• 1:21:49
  Yeah. So I, I think we feel the same
• 1:21:52
  way. I, I think he, I mean, I don't
• 1:21:54
  know exactly where I would take him, but like if I'm 611 fourth,
• 1:21:59
  if I'm in the fourth round and he's still there and I don't
• 1:22:01
  have a defender yet, I would be considering it.
• 1:22:04
  Depending who's. There.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah, maybe. Wait, So what What pick is 611?
• 1:22:10
  Oh so 12243648 about 56 in the 660 something.
• 1:22:18
  OK so I I I have him ranked at 40.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah, yeah. I think that's I think that's
• 1:22:23
  pretty close to the. Right as well, yeah.
• 1:22:26
  On him, OK, some of the any other names kind of shouting out
• 1:22:29
  or you're like kind of speaking out to you here?
• 1:22:31
  Do you feel like a goalkeeper is necessary to get drafted?
• 1:22:37
  No, I just did goalkeeper Tears. And what I will tell you is that
• 1:22:44
  you probably want to get one in tier one or two.
• 1:22:50
  Like Tier 1 is going to be your guys, like your Pickfords,
• 1:22:56
  Popes, Kelleher, and then your tier twos are going to be kind
• 1:23:03
  of a lot of the names you're used to hearing.
• 1:23:05
  David Raya Sanchez. Allison.
• 1:23:09
  Allison Yeah. And then your tier threes is
• 1:23:12
  where you get into, you know, those guys who are bordering
• 1:23:16
  more along like a 7 point per start and there's going to be
• 1:23:20
  games where they will get you like 2 or 0.
• 1:23:25
  So yeah, you want to ideally avoid those guys.
• 1:23:28
  They become more kind of streamers.
• 1:23:30
  So anybody in Tier 3 and Tier 4 is basically like.
• 1:23:35
  Playable guys, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Like for Brugans down there and Belier.
• 1:23:39
  I, I think last year I didn't, I didn't draft a keeper in my, I
• 1:23:44
  just said I'll figure it out on waivers.
• 1:23:46
  I'd rather get an extra guy and see kind of how, how things
• 1:23:50
  shake out and then make a decision last minute.
• 1:23:53
  I mean. But I'll, I'll raise you this
• 1:23:55
  Keef. So I agree to the for the most
• 1:23:58
  part, but last year I was able to draft.
• 1:24:02
  I think I drafted Fleck in in at least two of my leagues and that
• 1:24:11
  was set and forget all season. So I think.
• 1:24:13
  If you can, yeah, If you. Can find that Kelleher might be
• 1:24:17
  that this season. He might be, if you can find
• 1:24:20
  that Trafford could be one of those this season.
• 1:24:23
  That's one. That's one we talked about last
• 1:24:24
  week that we like. I mean, that's a rumor, but
• 1:24:27
  we'll see. If he does, maybe even better.
• 1:24:33
  I I love the idea of Trafford at Burnley.
• 1:24:35
  Just the amount of points you can get from saves though like
• 1:24:37
  that. It'd be a little less exciting
• 1:24:39
  to have him if he plays for Newcastle.
• 1:24:40
  I feel like even though it might, it might be better, it
• 1:24:42
  just wouldn't be as fun. Yeah, pathetically.
• 1:24:45
  But Enzo, to answer your question, Pickford in round 9 is
• 1:24:48
  insane. I recommend nobody do that.
• 1:24:51
  That's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:24:53
  Yes, that was what I was looking at.
• 1:24:54
  So we're we're totally in agreement there.
• 1:24:57
  Trying to think of some other names here.
• 1:25:00
  Mason Mount lost pick Who did that?
• 1:25:03
  Who? Did that.
• 1:25:04
  That was Mason Mount. Mason Mount was in our draft 16.
• 1:25:07
  Oh, really? OK, that makes sense.
• 1:25:09
  Yeah. Yeah, that's about as that's
• 1:25:11
  about as far as he backs himself too all.
• 1:25:15
  Right, I have, I have some other ones for you guys.
• 1:25:16
  So how do you all feel about about previous draft darling
• 1:25:22
  Josh Brownhill round 12? I know I did see his name.
• 1:25:30
  He did well when he was in the league couple seasons ago.
• 1:25:33
  He could be OK, yeah. He could be OK by a 12th round.
• 1:25:36
  You're not going to complain, right?
• 1:25:38
  Well, it's it's a bench player at the end of the.
• 1:25:40
  Day, is that a, is that a Christie thing though?
• 1:25:43
  Like are you? I think I'd maybe rather be
• 1:25:45
  swinging for the fences there a little bit more where I think
• 1:25:48
  it's like it kind of depends on your draft composition a little
• 1:25:50
  bit, right? I think you have some, I think
• 1:25:51
  if you have some stability, you I would probably be swinging for
• 1:25:54
  the fences. But if you have some risky picks
• 1:25:56
  and you might need a guy just to plug holes, yeah, then that,
• 1:25:59
  that's not a bad pick. I actually, I, I'm totally with
• 1:26:01
  you. I think that's drafting for
• 1:26:03
  first or last. Toddy would hate that.
• 1:26:05
  Which interestingly, look at Toddy's team 12/1.
• 1:26:08
  He takes Barry on Gruda, which with Jauprejo leaving could be
• 1:26:14
  an incredibly valuable pick. So I actually really like that
• 1:26:18
  pick from him. And then there's a couple other
• 1:26:23
  value picks that I particularly thought were were really solid,
• 1:26:29
  as I mentioned, you know, like the Udoggi slash Spence pick
• 1:26:33
  late I think is is a really, really good one.
• 1:26:36
  I think people can do that for sure.
• 1:26:38
  This is going to be, I mean, maybe unexpected for some Danny
• 1:26:42
  Welbeck. Like who?
• 1:26:45
  Who else is it going to be? Not unexpected.
• 1:26:48
  He's going to have a great, he's gonna have a great three months
• 1:26:51
  trying to sell him off and then just.
• 1:26:54
  It was so funny. Yeah, trade high, trade high.
• 1:26:56
  Yeah, it was so funny because he, the beginning of the season
• 1:26:59
  last year was so good and Enzo had him and Enzo was trying to
• 1:27:02
  sell him to everybody in our league and just everyone was
• 1:27:05
  like, no, it's fine, I'll pass. Which was so felt so unfair for
• 1:27:10
  how well he was doing. But we all no one really
• 1:27:13
  believed it. Damn it, you like you had the
• 1:27:15
  game plan. Yeah, he totally did.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah, didn't. Walk.
• 1:27:19
  Well, I do like O'Brien too. For Evan in the last pick in 69.
• 1:27:24
  I like O'Brien. I think he could be in this
• 1:27:28
  again. Voids he was.
• 1:27:29
  Pretty darn dependable for Everton at the end of the year
• 1:27:32
  last year, but so for him to go 16 I think is pretty solid.
• 1:27:35
  I completely agree and The funny thing about him is that there
• 1:27:40
  was all this news about Kenny Tete having a verbal agreement
• 1:27:44
  with Everton. Well, turns out today that
• 1:27:48
  potentially that was all just gamesmanship to get a new
• 1:27:52
  contract with Fulham and so gotcha.
• 1:27:56
  Nice gotcha. So I I actually.
• 1:27:58
  I like O'Brien too, I think. I think he could be good.
• 1:28:01
  He what I also especially like about O'Brien is that he looks
• 1:28:04
  like he's an like American football player.
• 1:28:06
  He's so big and he's like the biggest, like meaty head.
• 1:28:09
  So I, I like, I, I kind of root for guys that don't really look
• 1:28:12
  like football players, like soccer players, you know, they
• 1:28:16
  look like the body types just do not seem.
• 1:28:18
  To be like Keef. So Keef, this is a Midwestern
• 1:28:21
  thing. I don't know if you, I don't
• 1:28:21
  know if you're familiar with this and I'm sure you're not,
• 1:28:24
  but I bring this up on our podcast all the time because I
• 1:28:26
  always call, what the hell is his name?
• 1:28:29
  Milenkovic? I always call him Big Hoss.
• 1:28:33
  Are you familiar with the term Big Hoss?
• 1:28:35
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like a.
• 1:28:36
  Strictly American term when you call someone a hoss.
• 1:28:40
  And that's exactly how I see O'Brien.
• 1:28:42
  Yeah, they're both they're very similar in that way.
• 1:28:45
  OK, what about the Chelsea, Chelsea boy defenders Mark
• 1:28:49
  Cucarella 11/3. I think the role that he has in
• 1:28:52
  his team in the same same as Enzo where the years prior like
• 1:28:56
  absolutely irrelevant, but this year under under Moresca and the
• 1:29:00
  way that he kind of gets so advanced, it's I think that's a
• 1:29:03
  pretty good value there. I will.
• 1:29:05
  Be targeting him for sure. He has been dominating in Club
• 1:29:07
  World Cup. I think he's a great pick.
• 1:29:10
  He's fantastic. I I'm all in.
• 1:29:12
  And then the other two, Reese James to me is interesting just
• 1:29:15
  for his set piece, delivery stuff, center back.
• 1:29:18
  It's just a question, I think. I think when you're going tenth
• 1:29:20
  round I'll take the injury risk. Do you know Crazy bastard?
• 1:29:24
  But I, I, you know, yeah, soft spot for him.
• 1:29:26
  The other one I really like is a Supion at 9:12.
• 1:29:30
  I think he's had a little bit of a rocky time, but he was like,
• 1:29:33
  what? He was an elite defender, what,
• 1:29:35
  two years ago? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, for sure.
• 1:29:37
  I think you just, you need to be realistic when it comes to a
• 1:29:39
  soupignon. You need to, you need to
• 1:29:41
  understand that they're going to leak goals.
• 1:29:43
  And you need to understand that like, though he has attacking
• 1:29:46
  returns in his locker, he's not going to be the guy who's going
• 1:29:49
  to give you 10 points per start because of the, the the goals,
• 1:29:54
  goals and his anger is going to rotate.
• 1:29:58
  What is interesting is that we did a little thing where we
• 1:30:00
  looked up like ghost points per start and like like the top
• 1:30:04
  ghost points per start players and he showed up on that list as
• 1:30:06
  like a top 25 ghost points per start player.
• 1:30:09
  Well. Sure, but how many points did he
• 1:30:10
  lose to go against? Yeah, but no, I mean with this
• 1:30:14
  new, with the new, with the new adjustment that happened that's
• 1:30:17
  came into effect last year, way less than he would have Sure
• 1:30:20
  too, you know. Sure.
• 1:30:21
  So, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:23
  So he's I don't know, he's interesting in that nine.
• 1:30:25
  I'm not not at it. Oh yeah, Yeah, I am.
• 1:30:28
  Maybe I will. Let me really quickly, let me
• 1:30:31
  tell you about playing time at the Club World Cup.
• 1:30:36
  So as far as Chelsea's concerned, Cucarella has played
• 1:30:39
  77% of available minutes. So has Neto.
• 1:30:44
  So has Colwell. So is Kaiseto.
• 1:30:48
  Palmer's at 72, Fernandez is at 70.
• 1:30:51
  Malo Gusto is a name I want to talk about 66% of available
• 1:30:57
  minutes he has played. And Rhys James in certain games
• 1:31:01
  has actually played in that midfield double pivot instead of
• 1:31:07
  playing in defense, which I find interesting doing that kind of
• 1:31:11
  Trent, you know, back and forth midfield.
• 1:31:13
  Is he a midfielder? Is he a defender kind of thing?
• 1:31:16
  Yeah, Yeah, he does that. And I think also, yeah, I mean,
• 1:31:19
  it's interesting. I think Gusto is, if you, you
• 1:31:23
  know, in the Chelsea community, he was very beloved for a while.
• 1:31:26
  And I think in the last six months has really kind of become
• 1:31:29
  a villain of Chelsea fans a little bit.
• 1:31:31
  Like, I think they've been really disappointed with how
• 1:31:33
  he's played. And I think it's no fault of
• 1:31:35
  his. I think it has a lot to do with
• 1:31:36
  what Maresca is asking of him. And I don't think it's
• 1:31:38
  necessarily how he's played his whole career.
• 1:31:41
  Yeah. So I think I, I and I feel like
• 1:31:44
  Maresca is the only one that seems to be high on him.
• 1:31:48
  Yeah, he's getting a lot of, he's getting a lot of minutes.
• 1:31:50
  Yeah. So I, I don't know exactly with
• 1:31:53
  gusto, but I'm, I'm not super interested there, I think.
• 1:31:55
  But I think as in the context of Reese James, he's definitely
• 1:31:58
  taking some of those minutes. And I think a lot of that has to
• 1:32:00
  do with James being just the injury concerns and they're
• 1:32:03
  really trying to manage that as much as they can.
• 1:32:04
  Keith, I'm sorry, I don't want to take over, but I I want your,
• 1:32:07
  I want your take on mod awake. He's only played 35% of
• 1:32:11
  available minutes. And I, I feel that there has
• 1:32:15
  been sort of a rift that's been developing and I think it's only
• 1:32:18
  widened since the end of the season.
• 1:32:20
  There's been rumors of him being sold.
• 1:32:23
  I think he's paying the price for distancing himself from
• 1:32:27
  Chelsea. And yeah, I I worry about him as
• 1:32:31
  a draft asset. So we've talked about Madeloki
• 1:32:33
  before and I think for me it's like he is one of the few guys
• 1:32:37
  where his fantasy value is like much higher than his real value.
• 1:32:41
  He just seems like the the type of guy where everything he does
• 1:32:43
  is like very direct. So like, OK, he shoots from
• 1:32:47
  these like impossible angles, but like, you know, but it's
• 1:32:49
  like where he's never going to score from.
• 1:32:50
  But like that's two points he's getting.
• 1:32:51
  You know he drives that he's, you know, contestant dribble,
• 1:32:54
  you know, successful dribbles like he just is so we.
• 1:32:57
  Call that a Trezegue. A Trezegue, yeah, he's so he's
• 1:33:00
  such an effect. He's much more effective fantasy
• 1:33:02
  asset than I think he has a real asset.
• 1:33:05
  So I think that's how always been my kind of rub with
• 1:33:06
  Mademeke is that like he's he's like gonna start, but I just
• 1:33:09
  don't have faith that he's locked that in and I just I
• 1:33:11
  there's all the things you brought up makes me feel like
• 1:33:14
  that's even less likely that he's gonna be that consistent
• 1:33:17
  starter. And then then what?
• 1:33:19
  Then what we've talked about too earlier with the amount of
• 1:33:21
  players there. It's just I'm, I'm not super
• 1:33:23
  interested because but you know, I think at the end of the day, a
• 1:33:27
  lot of it is who's gonna if, if, you know, if you were promised
• 1:33:31
  an XX amount of starts from one of these guys, you'd be, you'd
• 1:33:34
  be chopped out a bit. You know where he played really
• 1:33:36
  well for what team. England.
• 1:33:40
  I would love him like I love him for England, but I told him I
• 1:33:43
  think he'd do Wolves tell him. Yeah.
• 1:33:45
  I think if he goes to Newcastle, which there's some rumors saying
• 1:33:48
  he might, I think he jumps into what, Yeah, third round.
• 1:33:53
  Yeah, I mean, he's better than no offense.
• 1:33:55
  He's better than Murphy for sure, you know.
• 1:33:57
  He's better than Murphy. All right, Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Look guys, look at look at the seventh round with me quick.
• 1:34:02
  So Mado Wake is there. What what midfielders there?
• 1:34:07
  Would you take him over in that entire round?
• 1:34:10
  So we have, we have Illimanjai, we have Dango Attara, Ismail
• 1:34:14
  Azar, Bruno Gimareish, Harry Wilson, Tizani Rinders and
• 1:34:18
  Elliot Anderson. That's an interesting crop of
• 1:34:20
  midfielders. Yeah, that is, it's like.
• 1:34:22
  A tier, It's like a tier 3, right?
• 1:34:24
  Tier 4, kind of. I think I go.
• 1:34:26
  I thought I was ranking from here.
• 1:34:28
  I might go man, when I go and die over about.
• 1:34:30
  I don't know if I could do that. I think the thing with Maduweke
• 1:34:33
  is he gets points when he starts and that that's that's what
• 1:34:36
  makes this so hard, you know, is it's not like a, a like for like
• 1:34:39
  situation because I think, I think I go and die.
• 1:34:41
  I think and Die is going to start the most games and then I
• 1:34:43
  probably go Maduweke and then I think I go.
• 1:34:46
  Bruno, maybe? Bruno G.
• 1:34:48
  No, I think I was. I think I go SAR Rynders, Bruno
• 1:34:52
  Wilson. I think I think Reinders is
• 1:34:54
  really interesting. I think Reinders scored about 10
• 1:34:56
  plus goals for AC Milan last year from a midfield position.
• 1:35:00
  Yeah. And he's he's a really good ball
• 1:35:01
  carrier, like contested dribbles, which is like what a
• 1:35:04
  huge ghost point indicator, you know.
• 1:35:06
  So I think I think there's I think there's more value there
• 1:35:08
  than people are giving credit. And I also think his age profile
• 1:35:11
  lends himself to starting more games than a lot of these young
• 1:35:14
  attackers that City are getting, you know, and I think if if
• 1:35:19
  Silva leaves, if Gundolin leaves, I think there's going to
• 1:35:21
  be some availability in that little more of a industrial
• 1:35:26
  midfield role that they have, you know, as opposed to like the
• 1:35:28
  Shirky's not that guy who's got a, you know, that surprise
• 1:35:32
  balance of the team where I think Ronders does that.
• 1:35:34
  So I don't know. And So what do you think?
• 1:35:39
  Out of all those I like Ndii too, but I think Bruno GI think
• 1:35:43
  we're downplaying him a little bit.
• 1:35:44
  I like Bruno G, especially in that newcast.
• 1:35:46
  It's one of the strongest midfields in the league.
• 1:35:48
  Harry Wilson shouldn't be there. He shouldn't be.
• 1:35:53
  I like Adam Sutton too. He he did well last season for
• 1:35:56
  Forrest by getting Kenny replicate it.
• 1:35:59
  But out of those, it'll just be Ndii, Bruno, G, and maybe saw.
• 1:36:05
  Whoa, my luck just went out. Nice.
• 1:36:07
  Sorry, there we go. It was a movie.
• 1:36:09
  You're you're so focused on the draft.
• 1:36:11
  You were still. What about you, Joe?
• 1:36:12
  I it sounds like you have do you have a different vision?
• 1:36:14
  I thought I mean Atara as well. I guess that he that that throws
• 1:36:18
  a wrench of it too. He's probably.
• 1:36:19
  I love, I honestly love model Wake.
• 1:36:21
  I rostered him this year and I he was, he was a backbone of my
• 1:36:26
  winning team as the first league I've ever won and well in in one
• 1:36:31
  of the community leagues. Like I mean, these things are
• 1:36:33
  Uber fucking competitive. So if your listeners are
• 1:36:36
  interested, I would encourage them to get involved because
• 1:36:38
  like these you've never seen competition like this in in any
• 1:36:41
  league. It's it's crazy.
• 1:36:42
  And so I finally won one this year and I had Mataweke in
• 1:36:45
  there. I had Kunya.
• 1:36:47
  It was a great, it was a great team.
• 1:36:48
  Anyway, so but I'm I'm now I'm I'm nervous given what's
• 1:36:52
  happened at the Club World Cup and and everything else.
• 1:36:54
  So I probably would pass on him for I don't know any number of
• 1:37:01
  these guys. Like Dango before his injury was
• 1:37:03
  putting up insane numbers. How much of that though was his
• 1:37:08
  him playing forward because Eilson was injured.
• 1:37:11
  So right. So that that's a factor there, I
• 1:37:13
  guess. But sorry.
• 1:37:14
  No, it's a tough group of midfielders right here.
• 1:37:17
  I mean, honestly, you're you're honestly, you're happy to get
• 1:37:21
  any of them in the seventh round because it feels like it's too
• 1:37:23
  late to get good midfielders, but you really are, which is
• 1:37:26
  wild. So like when you look at these
• 1:37:28
  guys, it's like you'll kind of take any of them.
• 1:37:32
  Harry Wilson, you know, push him back a few rounds and he would
• 1:37:34
  he'd be value in the 10th, I feel like.
• 1:37:36
  But other than that, yeah, I mean, like any of these guys I'm
• 1:37:40
  I'm kind of happy with. But also if I have to take my
• 1:37:45
  choice, God, I guess, I guess I'm going to go like Element Jai
• 1:37:56
  or or maybe Bruno. I don't know.
• 1:37:59
  I don't know. This is hard.
• 1:38:00
  I think, I think SAR is kind of slept on this year.
• 1:38:02
  I do like SAR, Isabella, SAR for Christopher Paulus.
• 1:38:06
  I think that there's some underlying metrics with him that
• 1:38:09
  kind of lend itself to that. He really improved as the year
• 1:38:12
  went on. And yeah, I think there's, I
• 1:38:13
  think there's something there too totally as well, though.
• 1:38:16
  Do we think Matawecki's going to be the same as how Liam Bailey
• 1:38:19
  was? You know what I mean?
• 1:38:21
  Like he had a great season 2 years ago, you know what I mean?
• 1:38:24
  And you pick up. That's that's that's still
• 1:38:25
  stings. That was my guy, no.
• 1:38:30
  That's that's actually a really good comparison.
• 1:38:32
  I mean, to be honest with you, Enzo, I'm hoping for, I'm hoping
• 1:38:35
  for a transfer from auto AK. Yeah, me too.
• 1:38:38
  I think that's the best course of action for him in his career
• 1:38:41
  and everything. Like just to not get mired down
• 1:38:44
  in this Chelsea bullshit. Yeah, and he knows.
• 1:38:46
  Fair enough. He wants, he wants to play
• 1:38:47
  Champions League football, so he might as well play with us, you
• 1:38:49
  know, with this new, I'm just saying all.
• 1:38:53
  Right. How we feeling guys?
• 1:38:54
  I think, I think this has been a this has been a pretty long,
• 1:38:59
  pretty long episode. Is there any other any other
• 1:39:01
  last shots before we kind of called into this?
• 1:39:05
  What about Fulcrug 1512 with the scarcity of forwards?
• 1:39:09
  No, get the hell. Never, never again.
• 1:39:12
  Not for me. What about in Cuckoo with the
• 1:39:14
  hope that he goes to United or goes somewhere else?
• 1:39:16
  That's for you, Keith. You take that all the way.
• 1:39:20
  Not for me. What about Gar Nacho 15/8?
• 1:39:23
  That I took him yeah, just on the hope that he got a move
• 1:39:27
  that's like a, you know, 15th round gamble, but notice like in
• 1:39:31
  in the in the later rounds. I don't do a lot of I don't do a
• 1:39:34
  ton of lottery picks. I'll I'll do mostly that's where
• 1:39:37
  I take a lot of my defenders. So I went Miklenko.
• 1:39:39
  I went Konate Adrian true fair. I think is being slept on a
• 1:39:43
  little bit. He is Bournemouth replacement
• 1:39:46
  for Kirkez. They already have him in he's
• 1:39:49
  he's presumably already, you know, working with the team or
• 1:39:52
  will be in like a week. So I'm I'm kind of excited about
• 1:39:55
  him. I'm not expecting Kirk has
• 1:39:56
  numbers, but still. Jay, he this was before the
• 1:39:59
  Liverpool news, unfortunately. So yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:03
  And then Garnacho was kind of like my one, my one lottery
• 1:40:05
  ticket just to see. And then of course, for Lopez.
• 1:40:08
  But. Yeah, Was for Lopez like a a
• 1:40:11
  spite pick for Ryan. We, we have a, we have a thing
• 1:40:13
  with our friends where we're like, we'll pick a guy that our
• 1:40:15
  friend really wants that he knows he's coming up just like
• 1:40:17
  a, like a gotcha. We like a good spite pick, mate.
• 1:40:20
  We like a good spite pick. No, you could say us, It's all
• 1:40:22
  right. I don't.
• 1:40:23
  I don't really mention that's one of his guys.
• 1:40:25
  I have no spite for Ryan, but it's my boy, like if if we're if
• 1:40:29
  we're ever in a lead together, we're fucked because we we talk
• 1:40:33
  strategy so much. And actually that would be my
• 1:40:37
  one final thing is just to tell people to get on Discord like
• 1:40:42
  you have. You have to get on discord.
• 1:40:45
  There's so much incredible knowledge on there, like people
• 1:40:50
  just sharing, you know, transfer updates and various strategy and
• 1:40:55
  like if you don't want your league mates to see it, you go
• 1:40:57
  in there, you know, you'd like make a couple friends on Discord
• 1:40:59
  and you just chat with like it's just the place to be and there's
• 1:41:02
  no neo Nazis like on Twitter. It's just really awesome.
• 1:41:05
  I just. Oh man, yeah.
• 1:41:08
  It was funny. We had a new guy come into one
• 1:41:10
  of our leagues, Nate, and he he go on there.
• 1:41:13
  He's a neo Nazi. No, no, no.
• 1:41:16
  He was on, he was on Discord. He was on the Discord.
• 1:41:19
  Of it and like this is the first time in playing with us and this
• 1:41:21
  guy won by 6 games. Yeah, he dominated.
• 1:41:25
  He dominated. I mean, he was doing trades like
• 1:41:27
  left, right and centre that you were like you got, you must have
• 1:41:29
  a crystal ball or something because.
• 1:41:31
  Oh. That's right, he was on your
• 1:41:32
  pod. Like 2 weeks ago he was yeah,
• 1:41:34
  yeah, he, he mentioned that that was one of the things he did is
• 1:41:37
  he got super deep in the banter boys discord and got really,
• 1:41:40
  yeah involved there. Banter Boys is completely free.
• 1:41:44
  We have one on draft Society where if you remember the inner
• 1:41:46
  circle, you can join it. And of course it it does cost,
• 1:41:50
  but I mean, it's you know, a fee for the season.
• 1:41:52
  But but one of the things I'll say is like every single time
• 1:41:56
  there's a transfer, it's there before I see it anywhere else,
• 1:41:59
  which is pretty amazing. That is really amazing.
• 1:42:01
  So yeah, that's pretty cool. But yeah, I mean, like Bantam
• 1:42:04
  boys is I can't say enough good things about Sanji.
• 1:42:06
  He's he's such an incredible dude.
• 1:42:08
  Good friend of mine finally got to meet him in person when I
• 1:42:11
  went to to London. And yeah, my, my wife adopted
• 1:42:15
  him actually, which is pretty cool.
• 1:42:16
  So he's he's now, he's now basically our adopted son, which
• 1:42:22
  is, which is. Kind of.
• 1:42:23
  I love that, Yeah, yeah. I think they were when I the
• 1:42:25
  very first when I was really trying to find content just for
• 1:42:29
  any, any sort of resources. I think even before I found
• 1:42:31
  Jurassic Society I like stumbled upon banter boys.
• 1:42:34
  What are we doing wrong? How?
• 1:42:35
  How did you find Banta boys before?
• 1:42:37
  Trying to, I think I like, I think I typed in podcast, you
• 1:42:40
  know, I think I typed in a very specific thing and that that
• 1:42:42
  showed up. But but yeah, no, but you guys,
• 1:42:45
  I mean, draft society is the ultimate resource.
• 1:42:47
  You guys totally like, I don't really know how this whole thing
• 1:42:51
  works without you guys kind of being here providing information
• 1:42:54
  for people. Oh dude no props to you guys as
• 1:42:56
  well. Like, I mean, you, you, us and
• 1:43:00
  Banta boys are the last three vestiges of any sort of advice
• 1:43:06
  for this platform at all. Like isn't that isn't that
• 1:43:10
  crazy? Like there used to be even as
• 1:43:14
  even as like recent as last season, there were several
• 1:43:18
  different websites. I won't mention them, but there
• 1:43:20
  were several different websites that were offering, like,
• 1:43:22
  subscriber packages to people who wanted to, you know, have
• 1:43:27
  exclusive this or that, and they fell off not even halfway
• 1:43:32
  through the season like this. This community is just so niche,
• 1:43:36
  but also it's so incredible. That's why you gotta get in.
• 1:43:39
  Yeah, people have to go on Discord.
• 1:43:40
  The community's incredible. Agree.
• 1:43:42
  Yeah. So I also think that there's,
• 1:43:44
  you know, as niche, it's really fun 'cause it's niche right now.
• 1:43:46
  But I also really could see it growing as, you know, as as the
• 1:43:49
  years go and as this as soccer just gets more mainstream in the
• 1:43:53
  United States. Yeah, you know.
• 1:43:55
  Stop Corning soccer we've been hoping might get bigger.
• 1:43:57
  Soccer. Yeah, soccer.
• 1:43:59
  All right, I want to, I want to wrap up Joe, something we do
• 1:44:02
  kind of the end of episodes. We do like a would you rather,
• 1:44:04
  I'm just going to say 2 names you have to choose between OK,
• 1:44:07
  OK, so you, you start and then Enzo can follow up after you.
• 1:44:09
  OK. So would you rather Chris Ward
• 1:44:11
  or Evan Nielsen? Evan Nielsen I rostered Chris
• 1:44:15
  Wood at the end of the season and wanted to jump out of
• 1:44:18
  window. OK, Well then, Enzo, where are
• 1:44:21
  you at? I agree.
• 1:44:22
  I think he's he's going to give in.
• 1:44:24
  He's going to get some more penalties, so he'll get those
• 1:44:26
  assists. I'm going Evan Nelsen.
• 1:44:28
  Draft 3 penalties in a game again.
• 1:44:30
  Yeah, he's going to give Clive. I'm going to hand clip him and
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  Clive it. I'm going to win a fucking
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  league. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, Yakuba Minta or Pedro Neto at the moment.
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  Neto Yeah, I agree. And Neto for me, yeah, I agree.
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  Neto too. Minta's just, I just don't know
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  if he's going to stop or the way Neto's playing in the Club World
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  Cup. It looks good.
• 1:44:53
  Oh man, I almost want to go mid to here.
• 1:44:55
  I'll go mid to here just to be the the opposite.
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  But obviously I love Pedro Netto, but nicely.
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  I'm so nervous on that. Chelsea, Chelsea's going on OK
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  Alexis McAllister, Bruno Gemaraish.
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  That's pretty straightforward, huh?
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  I mean. I'm in penalties, I'm in Bruno.
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  Huh. I'm going to go McAllister only
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  because there's some monster scores there and the potential
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  that Liverpool potentially even do more this year.
• 1:45:23
  But it's that one's very close. Like, very, very close, yeah.
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  I. Also 9.9 points per start.
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  Bruno Gimmer Rage 8.5 Maybe it's not as close as I thought.
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  Yeah. No, not that close, but I I
• 1:45:38
  still got Bruno GI think. I know they're back in Europe
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  and I know they had a little bit of down spell after that, but I
• 1:45:44
  think this is Newcastle's just getting better and better.
• 1:45:47
  I think Bruno G will be a part of it.
• 1:45:49
  All right, Chris Richards or Ben White.
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  Oh, it's my boy. Damn.
• 1:45:54
  It's my boy, don't do it. Don't do it, mate.
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  I got it. I got to go Richards only only
• 1:46:03
  because of the ghosts. And also Ben White has Yurian
• 1:46:06
  Timber to contend with, who I know he plays across the entire
• 1:46:10
  back line. But still, Ben White's still
• 1:46:13
  getting into the groove of things and Chris Richards has
• 1:46:16
  just shown he can do it. I know there's you're up to to
• 1:46:19
  account for, but still, you know, I'm going to go Richards.
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  One of the most slipped on defenders of last season.
• 1:46:27
  Like less than 50% roster most of season.
• 1:46:31
  Richards gets headers and clearances made and when you get
• 1:46:35
  like 10 of those you're golden. And also they kept a surprising
• 1:46:38
  amount of clean sheets, I feel like too at the at the latter
• 1:46:41
  half of the season, the back half of the season Palace.
• 1:46:43
  So I I agree, I think it's Richards.
• 1:46:46
  OK, given the news on how to throw this one in there.
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  Jiao, Pedro. Anthony Olenga.
• 1:46:51
  Oh God. Well, there's also news about
• 1:46:52
  Anthony Olenga, right? Potentially to Newcastle, so
• 1:46:55
  there's that potential as well. What's the latest on that?
• 1:47:01
  Let's see so oh Football Insider 12 hours ago sources Anthony
• 1:47:07
  Olenga to Newcastle latest as $60 million bid accepted.
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  And I, I, I think it's that's. Without buying it?
• 1:47:15
  No, no, don't find it. Even even without buying it, I
• 1:47:19
  think I still go I. Agree.
• 1:47:21
  Yeah I agree. Just because Joe Pedro has now
• 1:47:24
  ruined his career by going to Chelsea.
• 1:47:26
  So. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:47:28
  Thank you. Yes, exactly.
• 1:47:29
  Maybe not his, maybe not his personal, his professional
• 1:47:32
  career, but definitely his fantasy career.
• 1:47:34
  The. Only way he's going to do well
• 1:47:35
  is if he gets married, if he's not married already.
• 1:47:38
  I love this from you, this is incredible.
• 1:47:41
  And so it's going to be a relationship guru by the end of
• 1:47:43
  this year. So if you're calling up the
• 1:47:45
  players and speaking to them, no, no.
• 1:47:47
  It's not just go points, it's emotional points too, OK, That's
• 1:47:50
  why I'm going. How?
• 1:47:51
  How do you keep abreast of all this information?
• 1:47:55
  And you know, the Internet's an amazing thing.
• 1:47:58
  You subscribe to Like Wags rus.com.
• 1:48:02
  My algorithm is fucked just at work, yeah.
• 1:48:06
  Your wife. Your wife would be pissed if
• 1:48:07
  she's talking algorithm probably.
• 1:48:09
  Why are you following all these these British women exactly?
• 1:48:12
  Yeah, I swear it's for fantasy. Just tell her, I swear she
• 1:48:16
  understands. They just look like Sherba.
• 1:48:18
  It's fine, they don't have to worry about it.
• 1:48:20
  And you know, all the wags like their Instagram pictures are all
• 1:48:23
  bikinis and everything. Like it's the most chop.
• 1:48:26
  Yeah, actually that's. That's.
• 1:48:27
  Brilliant. That is brilliant.
• 1:48:28
  Yeah. All of a sudden you see
• 1:48:29
  something like a guy that isn't a Lango on on his girl's
• 1:48:32
  shoulder. You know he's pissed and he's a
• 1:48:34
  squat hackery. That's a good point.
• 1:48:37
  Or he's gonna absolutely miss every single chance.
• 1:48:40
  You don't know. I don't know.
• 1:48:41
  That's my issue is what is this info really helping?
• 1:48:44
  If you go to one of two ways, we could have an amazing turn or
• 1:48:47
  like if they could do an Enzo Fernandez where it goes
• 1:48:49
  amazingly or it could be like a, you know, a pep where it goes
• 1:48:52
  horribly it. Doesn't matter if it helps or
• 1:48:55
  not, I just love the fact that he's so bought into.
• 1:48:57
  It yeah, It's so funny. It's like all about it.
• 1:49:00
  Goes think I'm crazy. Now think I'm crazy.
• 1:49:04
  Well, this has been episode 95 of Draft Offsides.
• 1:49:07
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• 1:49:11
  at Draft Offsides. Go to the Draft Society and get
• 1:49:14
  their draft kit because it is essential and we will see you
• 1:49:18
  guys very soon. Cheers.
• 1:49:21
  Cool. Well, thanks so much, Joe.
• 1:49:23
  This was awesome. This was such a good episode.
• 1:49:25
  Of course, definitely ran longer than I thought, but we were
• 1:49:27
  having so much fun it. Always does that.
• 1:49:29
  It always does that, Always it. Was great, but I blocked out I
• 1:49:33
  blocked out about this much time so I'm I'm happy with it yeah,
• 1:49:36
  it was fun it. Was a blast guys.
• 1:49:38
  Appreciate it. Hopefully we'll get this out in
• 1:49:40
  like less than a week. Cool, we can get it out there
• 1:49:42
  and go. I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna put
• 1:49:45
  a link whenever you guys publish it, I'll put a link to it in the
• 1:49:47
  actual draft kit. Awesome.
• 1:49:49
  Beautiful. It was super fun.
• 1:49:50
  Yeah, we'd love that. I really appreciate that.
• 1:49:52
  Cool. For sure.
• 1:49:53
  Yeah. We'll stay in touch.
• 1:49:53
  Let's keep, let's keep in talk. Let's keep chatting.
• 1:49:55
  Yeah. Hopefully we can do some more
• 1:49:57
  cross-platform stuff. Oh.
• 1:49:58
  Yeah, I mean if you get if one of you guys wants to come on
• 1:50:01
  ever like that would be amazing. I would love that.
• 1:50:03
  You don't want you don't want Tico on there, trust me.
• 1:50:08
  I was hoping to get Tico. I was going to give him some
• 1:50:10
  shit about Real Madrid. I was, I mean.
• 1:50:13
  So maybe we'll have you, maybe we'll have you on again later in
• 1:50:15
  the year. Yeah, because.
• 1:50:17
  You gotta hear some of the stuff that he fucking says.
• 1:50:19
  He's a fake Man United fan. He should have been a Fuller
• 1:50:21
  fan. I would have respected it.
• 1:50:22
  Yeah. You go, Megan.
• 1:50:23
  Yeah. You can't pick Man United.
• 1:50:25
  Come on, can't pick, Man. United, I know that's how we
• 1:50:27
  feel. We're just, we're disgusted by
• 1:50:30
  him to be honest. Yeah, and he won and he won the
• 1:50:33
  league, so he's even more. I know, even worse.
• 1:50:35
  Just so smug. Yeah, we'll stay.
• 1:50:38
  We'll stay in contact. I'll talk to you soon.
• 1:50:40
  Joe, keep your window open for a few minutes after because it
• 1:50:42
  sometimes takes a minute to load it all up.
• 1:50:44
  Alright, cool, cool. Cheers guys.
• 1:50:45
  Sounds good. See you guys.
• 1:50:46
  Bye. Bye.