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NFL Playoff Breakdown, Ohio State Wins The Natty & The Best Inauguration Memes | Charlie Marlow & Eric Messersmith · Kenny Wallace Media

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What's up everybody? This is everybody settled down.
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This sports edition. I'm Charlie Marlowe.
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That is the great Eric Messersmith.
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I'm in the greater St. Louis, MO area.
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He's out there in, I was going to say beautiful Los Angeles.
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It's always beautiful. But how you doing out there,
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Eric? Is everything calmed down a bit
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right? It has, luckily.
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I mean the devastation is still insane, but the act of fires are
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pretty much contained and for now, knock on wood, everything
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seems to be getting back to normal for the most part.
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But of course, for so many people, hundreds and hundreds of
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families, they'll their lives will never be the same.
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And the destruction is just crazy and immense.
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And it's going to take years, if not decades to recover.
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And some people will never recover.
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Yeah, their homes are just gone. And they'll they won't get
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enough money from their insurance company to cover the
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costs of rebuilding. And they will, they will have to
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leave. And so those are the people I
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feel for the most that will have to resettle somewhere else and
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their all their possessions and destroyed, no home to go back to
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it. It's really, it's really, really
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a sad situation. So it it's hard to transition
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from that, but this show is gonna be sports related, which
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look, whether you're going through just something awful
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like that or your everyday sports is supposed to be a
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little bit of an escape from from your everyday daily life.
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Have had some some great football NFL play offs.
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Obviously the college football play off national championship
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game on Monday. We'll get to that.
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But I know you're more of an NFL guy, Eric.
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So let's let's start there. I, I said last week that I
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watched a bit of the Eagles Packers this past week.
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I was actually out to dinner on on Saturday night and we were
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going to go get a table. There was no table.
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So we're waiting. We sit at the bar.
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We're going to sit at the bar just for a, for a bit, get a
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couple drinks, then go to the table.
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But then that Lions commanders game was on.
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And I don't think my wife was happy that we remained at the
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bar because I was kind of watching the game as we're
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sitting there and conversing. But I'll tell you what, I don't
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know if you watched that game, but that was about the most
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entertaining half of football the first half that I can
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remember, huge plays. We're talking 5060 yard
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touchdowns. I don't know how many points
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were scored in the second quarter alone, but that was a
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really fun game. And then of course, though, the
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Lions, it's just like you, you feel for Lions fans.
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I do. I grew up an hour from Detroit.
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You thought maybe this was their year and they don't even get to
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the freaking NFC Championship Game.
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Yeah, it was. It was 52 points in the first
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half, which I believe was a record for any half in in an NFL
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playoff game ever, and 42 in the second quarter.
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That was incredible. And the game, unfortunately, in
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the end, didn't turn out to be that close.
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But it was amazing that that part of it, it was so exciting.
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And I just think it was such a contrast, too, to the Sunday
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games, which were good, which were fine.
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You know, the Bills, Ravens, Eagles, Rams, there were some
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competitive moments in those, but especially the Baltimore
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Buffalo game, but outdoors in the elements, which really
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affected those games. And you could you could see it
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with the drop passes and some of the turnovers that Baltimore
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had, the people slipping. And then you had the game in
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Detroit with the perfect conditions on Saturday night
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inside, and you saw, you saw the difference.
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So if you're talking about the Ravens game, so I watched a a
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good amount of that as well. And I and I saw the stat for
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both Josh Allen and also for who's the quarterback for Jalen
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Hurts for the Eagles about the fact that, oh, Jalen Hurts,
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well, for Eagles, Jalen Hurts, you didn't really have to do
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much. They didn't really have to do
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much in those games except for not make mistakes.
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And if they didn't make mistakes in some of these games, their
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teams ended up winning. And I know there's a lot of
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focus on Mark Andrews. We can talk about that.
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But there was the one fumble from Lamar Jackson.
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And to me that was really, that was really the game if if you
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look at So what Von Miller scoops it up, he doesn't score,
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but they score a touchdown very quickly after that.
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So you look at a game where you're a 2 point conversion away
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from tying the game and potentially sending it to
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overtime. But that play there where you
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have the fumble, that was a A10 to 14 point swing because the
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Ravens easily could have scored. They could have kicked the field
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goal, they could have scored a touchdown.
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All of a sudden, boom, it's seven points the opposite
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direction. And I know there's a lot of
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focus on the Mark Andrews drop and that was right in his bread
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basket. But also, in a game like that,
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that's the play that I really focused on, not the Andrews that
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was the one at the end. But if Lamar Jackson doesn't
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fumble that football, there's a very good chance the Ravens win.
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Yeah, I think you could argue the Ravens were the better team.
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And the Ravens were the second-half of the year were
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playing probably better than anyone else in the NFL.
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Once they got their defense fixed, their defense was number
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one in the league coming down the stretch in points allowed,
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yards allowed. And then you had Derrick Henry
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having one of the great rushing seasons we've seen in NFL
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history, certainly for somebody his age, but just in general.
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And then you have a guy putting up maybe the best quarterback
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season that we've ever seen. First guy, I mean, Lamar
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Jackson, what he did this year, it was really unbelievable. 4000
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/ 4000 passing yards over 900 rushing yards, no one's ever
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done that. Over 40 touchdowns and fewer
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than 5 interceptions, no one's ever done that.
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It was statistically maybe the greatest quarterback season
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ever. He's about to win his third MVP,
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but yet in the playoffs he has not been nearly as good.
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Now this game against Buffalo, he wasn't terrible by any means,
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but he had the big mistakes as you pointed out.
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And some of that is due to luck, is due to the elements.
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But this is now a pattern with Jackson.
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He has been historically great in the regular season.
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I mean, 3 MVPS. There's only a few guys ever
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that have won more than three MVPS.
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And what he has done, first team all pro again, he he's gonna go
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down as one of the greatest regular season performers ever.
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But legacies are built in the playoffs and it shows you how
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tough it is to win in the playoffs.
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It's it's, it's such, it's so distorted in the NFL because you
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get one game to advance. It's not like the other major
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pro sports where it's best four out of seven and there are
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multiple rounds. And it's, it's harder for, it's
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easier to redeem yourself if you do something poorly in the NFL,
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you could get one game and then that might be it.
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And then you come back next year and you get one more game.
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And if you play poorly, that might be it.
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And I think NFL fan bases are so distorted and legacies are so
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distorted by the few teams and coaches and players that succeed
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so much in the post season. And I'm thinking particularly
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right now of the Chiefs and Andy Reid and Mahomes and what
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they're doing, potentially going to a third straight Super Bowl
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and and winning a championship 3 peating, which no one has ever
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done, getting a fourth title already for them, for that
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group, which would be incredible.
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I think this is Mahomes seventh years, a starting quarterback.
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And then before that, obviously what Brady and Belichick did
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together in New England. Those two runs make everything
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pale in comparison. And so then you look at a
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quarterback like Jackson, who I think now is three and five in
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the playoffs and it looks terrible when really if you
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watch that game, you saw it. They could.
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Baltimore could have easily won that game if a few things go
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differently. They're now in the AFC
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Championship where they would probably be favored against the
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Chiefs, or at least it would be a toss up.
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You look at Buffalo, too, with Josh Allen now, they got the win
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here. Allen's had more success than
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Lamar Jackson has, but he hasn't broken through.
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And a large part of that is because they get beat by the
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Chiefs. It's happened to them several
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times during this run where they've been good.
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And we'll see. Maybe it happens again Sunday in
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a year where it looks like Buffalo's probably better or at
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least equal to Kansas City on a new on a neutral field.
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I think Kansas City's A2 point favorite.
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They always say you get 3, you know, roughly for being at home.
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So that would lead you to believe that this game run a
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neutral field. It would be even or Buffalo
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might be a slight favorite, but I think the greatness of the
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historic greatness of the Kansas City Chiefs under Reed and with
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Mahomes and QB, it, it just boxes everybody else out and
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diminishes everybody else. And so other fan bases I think
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have a a distorted sense of what success looks like because they
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think it should be like the Chiefs or like the Patriots
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before them. And that is just not realistic.
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Yeah, You know, I, I like Pat Mahomes.
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I like the Chiefs. Andy Reed, Travis Kelsey.
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So I was rooting for them in previous years, but now it's
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getting to the point where I'm kind of tired of them.
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And and it has nothing to do with, you know, some people
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don't like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and all that.
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It's it's nothing about any of the players.
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It's not about Jackson Mahomes. I just feel like after a while I
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like to see new teams win. Like I would like to see Josh
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Allen breakthrough. I wanted to see Lamar Jackson
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breakthrough just because I feel like we've seen a ton of Pat
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Mahomes and he's unbelievable. I will, I will say this and that
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team's unbelievable. And they haven't.
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I watched a decent amount of that game and I know the
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storyline afterwards, it's still being talked about, was the fact
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that the Chiefs were getting every single call there.
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And I'll tell you what, from what I was watching, I have to
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agree. It did seem like the Chiefs were
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getting just about every 5050 call in that game.
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And I think that may work against them coming up this
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week. You know, a lot of people are
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saying all the Chiefs and the NFL they're in, they're in bed
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with each other. But to me, that was such a
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storyline, especially on social media, but also with all the
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talk shows and all that. These refs are, are human
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beings. And the last thing you want is
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to have another game like this where it seems like Pat Mahomes
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is getting the benefit of the doubt on every single call from
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from what I saw, and I didn't watch the entire game, but I
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agree with the narrative there. It sure does seem like you can't
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touch Pat Mahomes. It was hard to watch some of
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those plays and not think that there was, that they were biased
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towards the Chiefs. Now, that doesn't mean that the
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refs intentionally, by the way, or had a plan or like it was a
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league conspiracy, right? If you watch the NFL, you know
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that quarterbacks near the sideline or quarterbacks in the
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pocket or quarterbacks running, basically anytime the
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quarterback has the ball and a defensive player is near him and
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there's what looks like rough contact, a lot of times the flag
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is gonna come out whether it was legitimate or not.
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And I think that's what happened with Mahomes.
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And Mahomes is smart. He baits the refs.
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He he's like, it's like flopping what he does.
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He waits until the absolute last second to slide.
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If he's along the sideline, he sort of hangs out right at the
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edge waiting for someone to push him or hit him.
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And in real time, it is really hard for officials to tell if
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there is, if a play that looks bad actually is bad.
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And we saw in replay that the flags that the Texans got on the
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roughing the passer, on the unnecessary roughness where
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Mahomes ran, When you watch them in slow motion, you can see they
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shouldn't, they should not have been thrown.
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But that, again, that doesn't mean that the league is telling
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the officials, hey, we got to protect the Chiefs and Mahomes.
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What the league is telling the officials is we need to protect
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quarterbacks. And when there's questionable
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calls, often times they go in favor of the quarterback.
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That's kind of a league wide thing.
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But of course, everyone's watching these games in huge
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numbers and they're they're the most, you know, the stakes are
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obviously the biggest in the play offs.
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And there's the narrative out there that the league favors the
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Chiefs, wants the Chiefs. Taylor Swift is there, right?
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The league wants her for network broadcast so they can pan to her
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after every time Kelsey makes a catch.
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So the conspiracy theories are there.
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I don't think it's a conspiracy by the league or the officials.
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I do think in that game in particular, the Chiefs got some
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great calls. That said, I've watched football
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for a long time. I, I hate when people blame the
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officials. You, if you play well enough,
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you can overcome that stuff almost always.
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And that's just the reality of of that's what you're losing.
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Teams point to the officials that complain and bitch, and
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that doesn't mean they're wrong, that the officials hurt them,
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that it wasn't exactly down the middle.
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But you know what? The Texans had their chances in
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that game. The Chiefs are not some
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juggernaut anymore and they didn't execute enough to win.
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So I I don't have a ton of sympathy for that.
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I think that is the way of the league where quarterbacks are
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going to get the benefit of the doubt on those very questionable
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calls. And that's just kind of how it
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is. And Mahomes is really good at at
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drawing that kind of like a great NBA flopper or a soccer
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flopper, someone who's really good at making things that
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aren't necessarily penalties look like penalties.
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That's a skill and Mahomes is is very skilled at it.
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What do you think about the snow games?
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I know that's been talked about a lot as well.
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I like a snow game here and there, but to have a bunch of
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them in the play offs. I, I do wonder if if that's what
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you want as a league with everything on the line to have
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weather play such a determining factor.
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And then again, it gets back to the game.
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I I was talking about earlier. You're not going to have the
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commanders versus the lions 42 points of exciting.
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And look, people want points. They just do every once in a
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while to watch a 1310 game is fun to see one snow game here or
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there is fun, but I don't know if you want half your games to
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be snow games, right? People are going to watch when
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you're scoring 42 points in the second quarter.
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That's what made that so entertaining.
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And the fact that you look, you can't play defense like you
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could in the past anyway. The NFL, they are opening up the
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the rule book. So everything does favor
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offenses. That's what people want to see.
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I just, I just wonder if you want to have so many of these
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games be in the snow in the playoffs when everybody's
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watching, when everything is on the line.
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I, I don't, I don't think you want weather to be that big of a
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factor. And it does seem like about half
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the games have been impacted by snow here for the NFL.
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Yeah, it just so happened the games this year in a lot of them
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in cold weather cities with the Arctic blast we saw, you know,
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all over the Northeast. It helped produce, produce snow
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even down in the the Gulf of Mexico.
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I'm, I mean, the Gulf of America that we saw.
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Yeah, recently. So I think I agree with you.
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Sorry, I caught myself there Saturday night.
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That game was way more exciting than the two Sunday.
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And the elements had a a lot to do with that.
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There's a question about it. I don't mind the elements every
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once in a while. Like you said, I think it looks
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cool. There's a there's a certain
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legacy there and nostalgia for like the Ice Bowl and the frozen
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tundra of Lambeau Field and seeing the guy's breath.
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But I think for just aesthetically for what what I
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think the modern NFL fan likes, I think we like the the big
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plays and the weather when it affects the quality of the play.
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You saw that Sunday guys were slipping, guys dropped balls
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that they probably wouldn't have dropped if it were, you know,
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15° warmer. There weren't the the moisture
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on the ball where where people were losing control.
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So I think I, I tend to agree with you, but I don't really
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know if there's a good solution for that because you're not all
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of a sudden going to move these games to neutral field and
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you're not going to build Dome stadiums in these these cities.
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But I want to say more, one more thing about what you said about
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the Chiefs, 'cause I, as much as I don't like people complaining
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about their ass, I think it is becoming a problem for the NFL
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when people feel like there is a bias.
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And so I, it's gonna be really interesting this week with
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everybody watching to see which way the flags go because you I,
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I'm sure you were on X as I was either during or right after
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that Chiefs games. And some of the memes, some of
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them were angry, some of them were just hilarious.
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Like the AI where Mahomes is kissing the official.
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Did you see that one right before the game?
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The AI image, it's it, the narrative now is set in place.
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And so everybody's going to be looking.
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It's like confirmation bias, right?
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If you are looking for something, you will probably
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find it. And everybody's going to be
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looking in that game who's not a Chiefs fan for any kind of bias
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that that goes against the Bills.
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It's funny you mention that. I was literally about to say
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that. And that's, that's really what I
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was alluding to. I think, you know, by now I
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consume more of my news and sports from X than I do actually
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watching the games. So again, I didn't watch that
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entire game, but when I saw it, I was like, again, I'm not
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saying that the Chiefs won because of that, but it did seem
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like they were getting the benefit of the doubt.
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And then when you do go to X and you have AI or Grok, and it's
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not just pictures, it's also video.
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Now you got video of Patrick Mahomes making out with the
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refs. I think somebody photoshopped a
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picture where Andy Reid was on his knees around the refs.
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You're seeing a lot of stuff like that.
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And again, that's kind of where I get my news.
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So I find it funny. And, and again, the Chief, Sir,
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they're unbelievable regardless, but it but it is becoming a
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story which the NFL doesn't want.
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I agree with you there. How about Mark Andrews though?
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And I wanted to look up his numbers.
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I mean, Mark Andrews is a really good player, really good tight
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end. He's got what, 436 career
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catches, 5500 yards, 51 touchdowns.
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And look, everybody wants to be a professional athlete.
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Hell, I did when I was a kid. And you want all the the glory
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and the touchdowns and the money and the Super Bowl and all that.
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But man, no matter what Mark Andrews ever does and he's had a
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hell of a career, that's going to be the one thing that
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everybody remembers. That's that's Jackie Smith right
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there. That pass.
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I mean, what do you think it was?
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Was it less than the the ball traveling from Lamar Jackson's
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hands to Mark Andrews? Was it 8 yards, whatever it was?
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I mean, just a little flick right in his bread basket and he
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drops that. And again, I know he makes a lot
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of money, but man, I feel bad for for guys like that.
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Like he'll never be able to live that down.
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Now, if they if they win a Super Bowl next year, OK, people may
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be quiet, but like, that's one that sticks with you.
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Yeah, and, and look, there's no guarantee you're going to get
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back there. Lamar could get hurt.
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Every season is a new season. I thought Brady made that point
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when he was broadcasting the game over the weekend.
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It's like look at Dan Marino. He made the Super Bowl in his
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first year as a rookie. I don't think he ever ever got
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back one of the all time great quarterbacks in NFL.
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And now his legacy is tarnished in part in large part because of
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that, because nobody like you look at Marino's numbers, but he
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did. He was putting up numbers like
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quarterbacks from today in an era when nobody else was doing
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that. Now people have passed him by
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since then because the the the roles are completely different.
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The game is completely different.
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But if, if Marino with his ability played today, he would
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have numbers that would be in the top five all time, probably
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in yards and touchdowns. And he did until these modern
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passes came around and passed him.
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But his legacy's forever tarnished.
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It's one of one of the reasons I don't like the legacy and the
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narrative of putting everything or putting so much on playoff
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success in general, but championships in particular,
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because I think it distorts so many guys careers in all of the.
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Sports and I think it's especially not fair in football
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because as I said, it's so often comes out to just one game one
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time. And Mark Andrews is a great
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player. I mean, I haven't looked at his
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numbers, but he seems strikes me as like a if he keeps doing this
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for a few more years like a borderline Hall of Fame tight
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end. I mean really good player.
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And now if if they don't get back there or they don't have
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success when they do, he's going to be remembered partially for
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that. And I said the same thing about
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Lamar Jackson, who has not played well in the playoffs.
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But that's why I I said earlier, don't let the success of the
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Chiefs dynasty distort. What typically happens with
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players and coaches in the post season is that they lose a lot.
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If you I was talking about this like Tomlin, 'cause I'm a
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Steeler fan. So many Steeler fans wanna get
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rid of Tomlin, which to me, I understand that the steel that
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he's not a perfect coach and I have my issues with him.
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But the Steelers leadership wisely chose to keep him around
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because he gets you in the mix every year.
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And yes, they haven't. They've they've, I've lost their
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last, I think six playoff games, haven't won a playoff game since
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2016, which is a hell of a bad run.
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But if you look at the numbers and the coaches all time and
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you, you sort of just look at the top, say 20 coaches for
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career wins and you look at their playoff records, almost
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all of them are right around 500.
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A few games below, a few games above.
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The exceptions, Obviously we know Reed Belichick, but those
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are not the role. Those are the exceptions.
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Why? Because it's really hard to win
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playoff games in the NFL. And it often times it comes down
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to the weather, luck, who has the ball last, that those kinds
21:49
of things. And that now all of a sudden
21:51
defines your legacy forever. And I just don't think that's
21:55
fair. And I think it distorts how we
21:56
look at players and and at teams.
22:00
Yeah, I don't think it's fair, but I also get it especially for
22:04
for quarterbacks and and everybody knows it's the old
22:06
saying that head coaches and quarterbacks, you get too much
22:09
credit when things are going well.
22:11
You get too much blame when things aren't going well.
22:13
But I do think if, if you have a long tenure in the league and if
22:18
you're, if you're playing 15 years, pushing 20 years and
22:22
you've been to the playoffs a bunch of times and you're
22:24
starting to have a bunch of different games.
22:26
I, I do think it's fair, for example, that the narrative
22:29
around Lamar Jackson to me is, is fair.
22:32
Like he has to do it. I'm not saying he stinks.
22:35
I mean, he's obviously great. He's going to be a Hall of
22:36
Famer, he's an MVP. But I do think if we're still
22:40
talking about this five years from now and we're talking about
22:42
a decade's worth of of playoff failure, I mean, you do have to
22:47
get to a Super Bowl or, or try to win a Super Bowl or win one.
22:51
Look, look at Aaron Rodgers. I say this about Aaron Rodgers.
22:54
As great as Aaron Rodgers is, and I think Aaron Rodgers might
22:57
be the best thrower of the football that I've ever seen in
23:01
my lifetime. And Aaron Rodgers has that one
23:03
Super Bowl. But I think it's also fair to
23:06
say that again, maybe he's getting too much blame as the
23:08
quarterback, but I think he's kind of underperformed in the
23:12
playoffs. And I'm, I'm looking that as how
23:14
how long has he been in the league?
23:15
15, whatever it's been 17 years, won Super Bowl.
23:19
But he's also had a lot of great teams, a lot of great defenses
23:24
with the Packers. So I think that's fair too,
23:26
especially if you've been in the league for a long, long time.
23:29
Of course, nobody's going to be like Brady Mahomes is close, but
23:34
that that is not the norm, as you said.
23:37
But if you've been in for for 15 years, like Joe Burrow, Joe
23:40
Burrow could be a Dan Marino situation, right?
23:43
Joe Burrow gets the Super Bowl early, he may never get there
23:46
again. And he's a great player, right?
23:49
Well, and and with Lamar, the reason that there is fairness to
23:53
that argument right now is because he has it.
23:56
He is underperformed individually in the postseason
24:00
so much compared to what his regular season numbers are that
24:03
is. So that's why there is some
24:05
fairness to it with Lamar Jackson now, but I would just
24:08
make 2 points. First of all, if you look at his
24:10
overall line against Buffalo, remember in the elements, 18 of
24:13
25254, two touchdowns, 1 interception.
24:17
He had the fumble, of course, a quarterback rating of 114.4.
24:20
And if Andrews doesn't drop that pass, there's a decent chance
24:24
they're going to overtime and then who knows what happens.
24:26
So he a, he did not play that badly at all.
24:30
Would you consider what was going on?
24:33
But also, I think if Lamar Jackson gets back there enough
24:36
and has the opportunities, he will do okay.
24:40
He'll do fine. He'll probably have a run where
24:42
his team gets to the Super Bowl. He'll he'll lose some more
24:45
playoff games. My point is he'll be typical of
24:47
what you expect, which is guys to in the postseason to lose a
24:54
bunch of games and win some games and occasionally make a
24:56
run. That's the norm.
24:57
That's what happens for most guys.
24:59
You pointed out Aaron Rodgers is a, is, is a great example of
25:02
that. I think about Ben
25:04
Roethlisberger, again, Steeler fan here, won two Super Bowls,
25:08
but he lost 1 and in one of the ones he won, they won.
25:11
It wasn't because of him. It was in spite of him.
25:13
If you remember the a long time ago against the Seahawks, he
25:16
played terrible in that game. They won the Super Bowl anyway.
25:19
So he gets so that's the thing with judging quarterbacks based
25:22
on team successes. Sometimes the team plays bad and
25:27
you play great and you lose and sometimes the team plays really
25:30
well and you don't play that well and you win and you get all
25:33
the credit and it. We do this in sports.
25:35
It's not just the NFL. One of the things about the NBA
25:38
that bothers me with the LeBron Jordan debate is how people
25:42
point to Jordan 6 and O in the finals and act like that's the
25:46
end of the argument. Where is LeBron?
25:47
I think is what, 4 and four and six?
25:50
I think in the Finals he's been, I think he'd been to the Finals
25:52
10 times off the top of my head. So that means Jordan's
25:55
automatically better. Well, Jordan, what about all the
25:59
years he didn't get there, all the years the Pistons beat them,
26:02
the year he came back? People forget that year after
26:06
his first retirement and they they lost in the playoffs.
26:08
They didn't even make it to the conference finals that year.
26:11
That is like a race because all that matters is you won the
26:15
championship. But it's also getting there,
26:18
getting there and getting into the postseason and having the
26:22
the roll of the dice. Like even even as great as Brady
26:25
was, they lost how many times in the in the playoffs?
26:29
They lost twice in the Super Bowl, right two to the.
26:32
Giants Super Bowl one lost to the Eagles.
26:35
Two to the Giants and they lost to the Eagles, said the three
26:38
times he was beaten in the Super Bowl.
26:40
Does that mean does that make Brady less quarterback?
26:43
Of course. But it actually makes him more
26:46
of a quarterback great, more of a great all time great losing
26:49
those games because he got them there.
26:52
Like I would much rather get to 1012 title games and lose half
26:57
of them then get to five and win them all.
26:59
Because there's a, there's something about getting there
27:02
and when you have exposure, everybody fails.
27:07
That's the thing. When you are there enough and
27:10
enough time goes by, everyone is going to fail.
27:13
Everyone is going to have bad moments.
27:16
And because we look at those few guys who under the right
27:20
circumstances didn't, or we forget about the times they lost
27:24
and didn't get there, we then think that's the standard,
27:27
right? Everyone's just got to be
27:28
amazing and always step up in the big moments.
27:30
And that's just not how it works.
27:33
It didn't work for that way for Brady.
27:35
It didn't even work that way for like Jordan, even though we
27:37
think it did because nobody remembers the years the Pistons
27:39
beat his brains out early in his career.
27:42
He gets like a pass for those like, what if they would have
27:45
gone to the Finals and lost those years?
27:48
It's almost like he would have been.
27:50
He's for legacy. It's better for Jordan that they
27:55
lost earlier. Think about how crazy that is.
27:59
It's worse for Lebron's legacy that he drug a fairly mediocre
28:04
Cavaliers team to the Finals when he was 22 years old and got
28:08
stomped by the Spurs. That tarnishes his legacy.
28:11
It would have been better for LeBron if they would have won
28:13
forty games and not made the playoffs.
28:15
In some people's minds. Not in my mind.
28:17
In my mind, it's amazing that he got that Cavaliers team to the
28:21
final. It's a amazing that he got some
28:24
of those other later in his career, Cavaliers teams in the
28:26
Finals against really good Warriors teams and got beat by
28:29
Steph Curry and Kevin Durant. Like that doesn't tarnish his
28:32
legacy. It enhances it at at least you
28:35
know how I look at it. So I know I kind of went off on
28:37
a tangent there, but it's kind of the broader way that I think
28:40
as sports fans we're so obsessed with did you win the
28:45
championship? Did you?
28:47
As if that's the only thing that matters and the standard, it
28:51
distorts everything else. Yeah, that's what happened.
28:53
Like I said with Mike Tomlin, people take it for granted.
28:58
It's not easy to get to the playoffs almost every year, to
29:01
fight to be in playoff contention every year.
29:03
Ask, ask Lions fans up until the last few years, ask Jets fans,
29:08
ask the Commanders fans how hard it is to get to a championship
29:11
game. They're there for the first time
29:13
since 1991. I think some of these fan bases
29:16
get spoiled. It's it's not easy.
29:19
It it doesn't happen automatically.
29:22
It's funny, I've had that same argument on the radio many times
29:25
over the years, and I've said basically the exact same thing.
29:29
It is the dumbest thing ever to punish LeBron or punish Brady
29:34
because it it's like, think of it like the Olympics.
29:37
You're essentially saying that it's better to get a bronze
29:40
medal or no medal at all than to get a silver medal.
29:44
It's the dumbest thing. Obviously everybody wants gold,
29:47
Everybody wants a championship, but look at it like from a
29:49
college football standpoint, Ohio State has finished second
29:54
in the country a lot since I've been an adult.
29:57
The Florida game, LSU going back, they lost to Alabama a
30:01
couple years ago. And so then Ohio State gets shit
30:04
on, especially if they if they really get their ass kicked in
30:06
that game, which which they have a couple of those times.
30:08
But also you finished second in the country and it's the same
30:11
with LeBron. LeBron finished second in the
30:14
NBA. That is way better than losing
30:17
in the Eastern Conference finals or earlier to the Pistons.
30:20
Makes absolutely no sense. I've been saying that for years
30:23
about LeBron and people compare Joe Montana to Tom Brady getting
30:28
the anytime you get deeper in the play offs it's better.
30:31
Anytime you win another series, it's better.
30:34
That's insane. Let's let's do a college
30:38
football now. The old Buckeyes finally
30:41
breakthrough win a national championship, first one since
30:45
the 2014 season. And I am an Ohio State fan.
30:49
I, I will say this though, Ohio State has had incredible teams
30:56
almost every year that I can remember.
30:58
I'm, I'm talking about, you can go back to John Cooper.
31:01
We're talking about 30 to 35 years worth of teams where
31:05
they're basically 11:00 and 1:00 or 10:00 and 2:00 going into the
31:08
whatever bowl season or Big 10 championship almost every year.
31:13
And so they breakthrough, they win a national championship.
31:16
And I'm not trying to be greedy here.
31:18
Ohio State probably should win a national championship with the
31:21
resources they have once every decade or so.
31:24
When when you think back, and I'm thinking back about all the
31:27
great teams they've had under, first of all, don't even go back
31:30
to John Cooper where they lost in Michigan every every year.
31:33
But Jim Tressel, amazing teams, Urban Meyer, unbelievable teams,
31:39
Ryan Day, I mean, NFL guys all over these rosters.
31:44
But also this Ohio State dynasty, which has gone on
31:47
really, like I said, 20-30 years.
31:49
They've also ran up into a generational run by the SEC for
31:55
a good 17 year period. And also just an unbelievable
31:59
run by Nick Saban in Alabama. And when you you started this
32:03
conversation talking about Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes and
32:06
what those guys did Belichick pay Patriots and Mahomes, Reed,
32:11
Chiefs, that's not normal. What Nick Saban did under
32:15
Alabama with Alabama may never be done again.
32:17
Like there's a lot of teams that don't have national
32:20
championships or they only have one.
32:22
I mean, whoever you want to talk about, Oklahoma, Ohio State,
32:25
LSU, Georgia, for about 15 years, Alabama was amazing and
32:31
they blocked a lot of a lot of other really great teams and
32:34
programs from winning national championships.
32:37
Yeah, just think about it this way.
32:38
What active coach has the most national championships now?
32:41
Is there any active coach that has more than one?
32:44
So Dabo has 2 with Clemson Abbo. Have two, yeah.
32:49
And Kirby Smart has 2 with George.
32:51
Sabin and to some extent Dabo as well, blocks so many people.
32:55
Now, I'm just gonna slightly contradict what I said earlier
32:59
because I think college sports is so different than pro sports.
33:02
In college sports, I think in pro sports the default
33:06
expectation is it's pretty good if you get into the mix a lot.
33:10
Like that's typically what happens.
33:11
You get into the mix and then once you're in the playoffs,
33:13
you'll win some, you'll lose some.
33:14
And if over enough time, if you get enough chances, you'll
33:17
probably be somewhere around even because the playoffs are
33:21
really hard. In college football, it's
33:22
different because there, there's no salary cap.
33:25
The institutional advantages of, like you said, Ohio State, Notre
33:28
Dame, Alabama, Michigan, a few other schools are so vast that
33:34
you're you shouldn't be judged on the standard of it's pretty
33:38
good if you get in the mix. You should be judged on the
33:40
standard. If you have such a massive
33:42
advantage now, to some degree NIL both enhances that
33:48
advantage, but also could minimize it at places like
33:53
Colorado, right where now, if you get the right coach and you
33:57
have the right cachet and the right brand and the right
33:59
boosters that have a collective now maybe you can erase that
34:04
advantage that the good old boys have had.
34:06
So that is possible, but the way that it's existed for the most
34:10
part up until the last year or two is that those schools have
34:13
had such an advantage that they should be judged on a different
34:15
standard. And that standard is competing
34:18
for titles often, right? And Ohio State is definitely one
34:22
of those schools. And that's why Ryan Day was on
34:23
the hot seat, even though, did you see that graphic they had
34:26
during the national championship game where they had the highest
34:30
winning percentages in college football history from a coach
34:34
with more than 50 games? And it was like Knut Rockne,
34:39
Walter Camp, who helped invent modern football, and Ryan Day.
34:43
There were four dudes, Ryan Day, and then the other three dudes
34:47
had black and white photos. That's how long ago they coached
34:51
is. They couldn't even have colored
34:53
photos of these guys. So that shows you Ryan Day, how
34:57
how historically amazing he has been at Ohio State that not only
35:01
is he better than any current coach in terms of wedding
35:03
percentage, in order to find comps, you have to go back to
35:06
guys who coached when they didn't even have, you know,
35:09
color photos available. It's funny because I I did a
35:11
radio quick little little radio hit this morning with the the
35:15
morning after talking about Ohio State because I couldn't do it
35:18
yesterday. And they were giving me some
35:20
shit too, because I I did say after the Michigan game, yeah.
35:23
So Ryan Day is 70 and 10 overall, 70 and 10.
35:28
And I was look, look, did I go a little overboard?
35:33
Sure. But also Brian Day had not won a
35:36
big game in four years. And I hate the fact that I have
35:40
to keep bringing this up because I'm happy Ryan Day one.
35:43
It was not personal, But when people like Kirk Herbstreit talk
35:47
about the lunatic fringe and all that, I'm thinking, well, he has
35:51
to win a big game, right? Like 70 and 10 is is great.
35:57
But if you're losing to Michigan every year and you don't win any
36:00
Big 10 championships and you don't win a national
36:02
championship, again, the standard at Ohio State is
36:05
different when you have $20 million rosters and you have NFL
36:09
players up and down your roster. And so again, I'm happy Ryan Day
36:14
one, but I think the criticism was 100% valid and now he's a
36:19
legend. But you have to do it.
36:21
I mean, you'll get the great coaches at Ohio State.
36:22
I looked this up, Paul Brown, Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, Urban
36:28
Meyer, and now Ryan Day is in that list, but John Cooper
36:31
isn't. And John Cooper was a great
36:33
coach and hell, they were 11 O or freaking 10 and one every
36:37
year they played Michigan, but he lost in Michigan.
36:39
I think his record was like 2-9 and one or whatever it is.
36:43
So my thing is like, I'm very happy Ohio State won.
36:47
But it also everybody's like, oh, you guys were all calling
36:50
for Ryan. First of all, nobody reasonable
36:52
that I know wanted him fired mid season.
36:55
But they just said, hey, coach either beat Michigan 50% of the
36:59
time or win just a national championship, which may seem
37:03
like a lot, but in six years you've got a top five team every
37:08
single year. I don't even think that's that
37:10
crazy of expectations. So again, I'm very happy they
37:13
won and I hope he stays forever. And guess what?
37:16
They can probably lose the Michigan for the next 5 years
37:18
now. But he's built up that equity.
37:20
But the point is you have to do it.
37:23
You have to win the games. Like this is this is the big
37:26
leagues, man. That's what Tim McCarver used to
37:28
always say. This is Ohio State, this is what
37:30
you signed up for. And that's why I'm glad Urban
37:32
Meyer. Urban Meyer kind of pushed back
37:34
when people were criticizing the fans.
37:36
He's like he he said something was a great clip.
37:39
It was going around on social media.
37:41
And he goes, yeah, well, you know, a player would tell me,
37:43
oh, man, like I fumble the ball and everybody on social media
37:47
has ripped me. And he'd be like, well, don't
37:48
fumble the ball, right? I mean, Ohio State, like this is
37:52
Ohio State. This is what you're supposed to
37:54
do. You're you're set up to succeed.
37:56
They're giving you every resource.
37:58
They're literally giving you money now.
38:00
You have facilities, you have the transfer portal.
38:03
You have the most talented roster.
38:05
The fans just want you to just to to win some games to beat
38:08
Michigan when you're a three touchdown favorite, right?
38:11
That's not too much to ask, I didn't think.
38:13
I think with all of these things we're discussing, it's all about
38:16
the context that and that is what you lose so much when you
38:19
just boil it down to record or isolate an individual
38:23
performance here or there. And the context matters.
38:27
And so in this case, the context of Ryan Day is they had an
38:32
incredible amount of talent and everyone saw it.
38:36
And Michigan was really down from what they had been.
38:41
And you lose that game after losing to an Oregon team that a
38:45
nice team, but a team you're at least as good in, if as if not
38:49
better. And I think they proved in the
38:50
playoff they were better when they they beat them the second
38:54
time around. And so there that I think is
38:56
fair to criticize him for that, even though at the same time you
39:00
acknowledge everyone acknowledges the record overall
39:02
is amazing because it is not anywhere close to a level
39:05
playing field like the NFL or like major pro sports.
39:09
And if particularly this year, and that's why the context is so
39:13
important, like a guy can play great or and lose and then
39:20
people will tarnish his legacy. And it's like, well, no, he did.
39:23
He actually did his part and it wasn't his fault with Day.
39:26
It was like, well, you have such an advantage over Michigan.
39:30
If you lose that game, it is kind of on you.
39:34
And it is fair to criticize you because the game plan wasn't
39:37
very good and you have the superior athletes and you've got
39:40
to get it done. And he did and credit to him.
39:43
But I agree with you, it was not despite the record, because of
39:47
the context. It was not crazy to call him out
39:51
and say is this the right guy? Because it's all it always comes
39:54
down to is the person, the player, the coach, maximizing
39:58
what they have and and doing the best they can to put themselves
40:03
in position. And in that Michigan game, I
40:06
don't think there's any way you could say Ryan Day is maximizing
40:09
what he has. Credit to him and the team for
40:12
turning it around. They had apparently, you know,
40:14
they were talking about starting the broadcast to kind of come to
40:17
Jesus meeting where they all got together and and kind of hashed
40:21
everything out. And he deserves a lot of credit
40:23
for that. But it was totally fair, I
40:25
think, for Ohio State fans to hold his feet to the fire given
40:27
the incredible advantages that he has, particularly this year.
40:31
Like it. The talent may not always be
40:34
that great. The talent disparity, certainly
40:36
it won't be. I don't think with Michigan most
40:37
years, but it was this year. In 2024, it was.
40:42
Yeah, I, I think this is another interesting part about the
40:45
College Football Playoff. When you, when you think about
40:47
the College Football Playoff going from four teams to 12, in
40:51
my head I said, oh, that's going to help out kind of the the old
40:54
misses of the world, the Missouri's of the world.
40:57
I think you're going to see make these playoffs.
40:59
You know, it's kind of the kind of the second tier of these
41:02
conferences that usually didn't get to make the the top four.
41:06
You're going to see a lot of these teams make the 12 team
41:09
playoff. And I, and I think that's great.
41:10
But here's what's crazy. You can make the argument that
41:13
the 12 team playoff is going to help maybe Ohio State
41:17
specifically, but teams like Ohio State even more.
41:20
And this is off the top of my head, but in the in the 10 years
41:23
of the College Football Playoff 14, Ohio State won it all the
41:28
first year. I think they got there about
41:31
half the time. I I can look this up, I bet you
41:33
they got to the to the final 4-5 or six times.
41:36
I think they were fifth. They were either 5th or 6th
41:40
every other year. So literally every year they
41:43
didn't make the playoff, they were the first team out, maybe
41:46
the second team out and they might have been the first team
41:49
out. Literally every year they didn't
41:50
make it. It was that close because that's
41:53
how good they were. They were.
41:54
They were always 11 and one. They lost to Michigan State the
41:57
year after they won the national championship in a crazy game,
42:00
never got to defend their title. There were ten and two some of
42:03
those years. But that's what's crazy also is
42:06
the 12 team playoff allows the the great programs that have a
42:11
misstep or two to get in. And then it's not about eye
42:15
test, it's about winning football games.
42:17
That's another thing that we should bring up In any other
42:20
year. The Michigan loss is one of the
42:23
most devastating losses in the history of the program because
42:27
it basically ends your season. You could have won a national
42:30
championship, you should have won the Big 10.
42:33
You beat Michigan. It's great.
42:36
Last year the season would have been over, you'd have been in a
42:38
shit bowl game that nobody cared about.
42:40
You'd have had opt outs. Your players would already be in
42:43
the transfer portal. So again, I love Ryan Day.
42:46
I'm I'm happy he won. I hope he stays forever.
42:48
He also got bailed out by the 12 team playoff.
42:50
He had a he had a second life. A lot of teams will now have a
42:53
second life because of the expanded playoff.
42:55
Well, and let's be honest, those schools should make the playoff
42:59
pretty much every year at least be in contention and having
43:02
those big brands is great for college football in the
43:04
postseason. And you this year the proof was
43:07
was obvious because Ohio State and Notre Dame, the two teams
43:10
that made into the final would not have made a four team
43:12
playoff. They would have been the they
43:14
would have been the 5th and six teams.
43:15
They would have missed out and they were the two best.
43:17
It turned out Also Arizona State would have been nowhere near A4
43:21
team playoff and they they got in, they won their conference
43:26
and they showed they're pretty damn good with that game against
43:29
Texas when they very easily could have won, wanted to go to
43:31
like 3 or 4 overtimes. So I think having the automatic
43:34
bids for conference champions is great as long as they're not
43:38
seeded 3 and 4, which I don't think they will be anymore.
43:40
I think they'll change that for next year, certainly by the year
43:42
after. So once they make that tweak, I
43:45
think the 12 team playoffs gonna be really, really good for
43:48
college football going forward 'cause it gives every team who's
43:52
deserving a chance and it gives those conference champions a
43:56
chance to. Because you just assume the Big
43:58
12 and the ACC aren't as good. And in most years they're
44:01
probably not. But that game showed you that
44:06
not necessarily. And we can't just automatically
44:09
assume now that because the Big 10 in the SEC have become these
44:12
juggernaut conferences, that they are automatically always
44:15
going to be superior to everybody else.
44:17
I hope college football will fight the because what's
44:20
happening now is the SEC in the Big 10 have so much more money
44:24
than everybody else and so much more power.
44:27
They're going to start to make demands.
44:29
And you've already seen this with rumors that they're trying
44:31
to get a number of automatic bids for their league into the
44:34
playoff, which I think would be a mistake.
44:36
I think you need to have it as it is now with the selection
44:39
committee picking the teams, the at large teams and the
44:43
conference champions going in automatically.
44:45
And, and it's going to be really interesting to see what happens
44:47
with that going forward, because that's going to be a big fight
44:50
for the future of college football, along with how you
44:52
regulate NIL. And, and because the the Big 10
44:56
in the SEC, the gap now between them and everyone else is so big
45:00
and growing that they're going to start demanding more and more
45:03
power. And they may just try to break
45:04
away and, and do their own thing.
45:06
And that's really the danger with college football is you get
45:09
to a point where the disparity is so big that you essentially
45:12
either have to do whatever the Big 10 and the SEC want to to
45:17
advantage them, or they just leave and do their own thing.
45:22
So this this show, which was very political in, in 2024,
45:26
we're trying to be a little more light hearted and more sportsy
45:30
here in 2025. But you did have the
45:32
inauguration and Eric, your big political guy, for people who
45:36
don't know he, he contributes on on Fox News.
45:40
And I'll be honest, I did not watch live one second of the
45:45
inauguration because it was a holiday.
45:48
We're doing stuff with the kids. We went to a slide park and all
45:51
that. And just like football, I
45:53
consume a lot of this through X, through the memes and all that.
45:57
So we talked about the, the memes of Patrick Mahomes making
46:00
out with the refs in football. So what I saw, obviously Mark
46:04
Zuckerberg is sneaking a look at Jeff Bezos's wife's rack.
46:11
From what I saw, George W Bush did seem like he was on
46:14
something. What did I miss, though?
46:16
Those were the, those are the two that I really, I, I know the
46:20
things I saw about Baron Trump being tall.
46:22
I saw all the ones that were distorted.
46:25
So was there a? Was there an image where it was
46:28
a real one that looked just ridiculous?
46:31
Oh, well, just him. I mean, the image that's
46:33
distorted where he's walking behind his parents, he does look
46:36
way taller than them in real life.
46:38
But yeah, not quite as tall as the AI generated one.
46:42
I thought the the Hillary Clinton laughing when Trump was
46:45
said he was going to rename the Gulf of Mexico, Gulf of America
46:49
was just kind of a funny moment and just Bush with his constant
46:52
like he what he did, he looked like he I'm not, I don't think
46:55
he did. He's kind of a goofy guy.
46:57
That's kind of his reputation. But he looked like the guy who
46:59
bit the gummy and then went to the serious event and you're
47:01
like, Oh my God, Oh my God, do people know?
47:03
Do people know that I'm high? And he was just hilarious.
47:06
His facial expressions and all the way that he was kind of
47:10
laughing through, pretty funny. Yeah, the Gulf of America thing,
47:15
I think it's kind of funny there, there are some people
47:17
that if, if you like Trump or don't like Trump, especially if
47:21
you don't like Trump, I think that was one of the problems was
47:25
they just they, they kind of go after everything, right?
47:28
Even if you don't like Trump, he says a lot of things that make
47:32
sense. And it's the same with the other
47:34
side of the aisle. But like to get mad about Gulf
47:37
of America. I think it's kind of funny.
47:39
Like I, I, I'm OK with it. I mean, it's just, it's
47:42
unnecessary. It doesn't do anything.
47:44
It's kind of dumb, but it's also Trump.
47:47
Whether you like Trump or not, he is a branding and promotional
47:53
and marketing genius and doing stuff like that because it's
47:57
obviously America first and all that.
47:59
So now it's the Gulf of America. It works.
48:01
Like if you have a problem with that, then you probably do, in
48:04
my opinion, have a little bit of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
48:08
Again, it's totally unnecessary. But also it doesn't really
48:10
matter. You're just changing.
48:11
I guess they have to make new maps now or new globes.
48:14
Right. What's the it's the boy who cry
48:16
wolf thing like the outrage. We just talked about this a lot
48:19
last year heading up to the leading up to the election.
48:21
If you're outraged by everything, then there's if
48:25
everything's outrageous, then nothing is.
48:26
And that's part of the problem and part of that is just social
48:29
media. It fee it feeds the beast of the
48:34
tribalism so of our politics. So you have to everything you
48:38
have to gin up your outrage for every single thing.
48:40
And I think people look at that and are like, OK, come on.
48:42
And then you lose credibility when there are other things that
48:46
really are outrageous to come along.
48:48
Because you were the person complaining about the Gulf of
48:51
America, Gulf of Mexico, which is kind of silly or like Elon
48:55
Musk making some weird awkward gesture.
48:57
And now all of a sudden you're saying he did the the Nazi
49:00
salute? OK, so John Rybolt says hi
49:04
Charlie and also can we talk about the Lauren Sanchez outfit?
49:07
So that's Bezos's wife. I did see Megyn Kelly criticize
49:11
her for that. And again, I I wasn't trying to
49:14
look too much, but it did look. Did she almost have like a
49:16
lingerie like well OK when I. Saw her.
49:20
I don't believe you were trying to look too much.
49:22
Well, what I'm saying is I, I, I see these clips, I'm I'm seeing
49:27
the, the vertical shorts on X and all that.
49:29
And I saw Megyn Kelly ripping on her for her outfit.
49:33
And it did look like she maybe had, OK, she had some type of
49:37
some type of jacket over it. But I don't know if it was like,
49:40
was that, was it just a bra underneath it basically, was
49:42
that what it was? It looked that way.
49:45
Yeah, it definitely did look that way, or at least some type
49:48
of it, some type of negligee. I mean, it definitely looked, it
49:54
definitely looked like evening wear underneath for sure.
49:57
And then Fetterman showed up in shorts and AT shirt or shorts
50:00
and a sweatshirt. So I was glad to see that he
50:02
kept it real. I, you know what there is, I'm
50:06
kind of with Fetterman on this. I know I'm in the minority and I
50:09
know Pete there. There's this thing you have to
50:10
dress a certain way for different occasions.
50:12
I do think it is weird in our society how we obsess about and
50:18
get angry about how people dress for certain things and yet we
50:22
don't muster up that same outrage for things that really
50:26
matter and can affect our lives. It it is kind of a weird thing
50:30
to me. I just, it's hard for me to get
50:32
really upset, or upset at all for that matter, about anybody
50:36
wearing any articles of clothing to literally anything.
50:41
I think as long as you are covered and you're not naked,
50:45
I'm cool. And I wouldn't even mind if
50:46
people were naked necessarily. But I get it for our society.
50:49
You know, people can't run around naked.
50:51
I understand why we, we have laws against a decent exposure.
50:54
I'm not saying that we should all be nudists.
50:56
What I'm saying is maybe we should care a little bit less
51:00
about what people wear and what they how they present themselves
51:04
in their appearance and certain things and care a little bit
51:07
more about what they say and what they do.
51:11
And how that can affect our country.
51:13
Let's save again. We're talking about outrage.
51:15
Let's save the outrage for that. OK, I generally agree with you,
51:21
but this goes back to so when I was a a sportscaster, I'm on the
51:25
local news, it always pissed me off that I had to wear a tie.
51:28
Why do I have to wear a tie when I'm talking about sports?
51:32
So I I kind of agree with you. And by the way, I like
51:35
Fetterman, and Fetterman's about the most normal Democrat you
51:39
have these days. And you see a lot of Republicans
51:41
now that are on the side of Fetterman.
51:44
They're like, oh, what happened? What changed?
51:45
And that stroke changed him. It's like, no, that's how he
51:48
always was. But then he had a stroke and he
51:50
had to do debates freaking right after he went through his
51:54
stroke. I will say this as a person who
51:56
likes Fetterman, I'm generally on his side.
51:59
And I do like the fact that he keeps it pretty casual, but he
52:03
takes it to an extreme, right. I mean, he looks like he's going
52:07
to open gym. He's got and one long ass
52:10
basketball shorts and a hooded sweatshirt.
52:14
So for me, like don't wear a tie, but I think John Fetterman
52:18
and I like the guy. He could wear you could even
52:21
wear nice jeans. You could wear some of these
52:23
nice pants guys have you could wear khaki pants.
52:27
I mean, hell, people are wearing Jordans now as dress shoes.
52:31
He could wear pants, some nice Jordans, and it could be 1/4 zip
52:37
like you don't have to wear a tie.
52:38
I do think John Fetterman takes the outfit too extreme, looking
52:42
like a bum and I like it, but you can clean it up a little
52:45
bit. Especially for the inauguration,
52:47
you can wear pants. He's on, he's on brand.
52:51
He, I, I think the trend of fashion is so interesting.
52:55
I mean, everybody used to wear suits all the time.
52:58
I mean, you go back and look at old clips, videos from like
53:01
pictures from the 20s or 30s. Men wore suits like every day
53:04
just out to go to the grocery store.
53:06
Now we wear athleisure. You know, we nobody dresses up
53:10
for anything. And I don't sit around me.
53:12
Oh my God, where is your suit to go to the store?
53:16
I look, I would it be weird if Obama was up there and like a
53:19
wife beater and and a pair of of shorts?
53:23
OK, yeah, maybe that would be weird.
53:25
But would I be outraged by it? I'm just talking about me
53:27
personally. Would I care?
53:29
No. Do I lose any sleep or muster up
53:31
any outrage that Federman had the audacity to wear shorts to
53:37
to the inauguration? No, I just, I just can't.
53:40
Or that women dress more provocatively than than some.
53:44
You know, I thought we were past that.
53:46
I guess not more provocatively than some people would like to
53:49
certain events. How about people just wear what
53:52
they want to wear and if you don't like it, don't say
53:56
anything. Or if you do say something,
53:58
fine, but just don't get super outraged about it 'cause there
54:01
are other more important things going on in America than what
54:04
people decide to wear to certain events.
54:07
All right, let's let's end on this.
54:09
It's a topic and I'm looking at it right now and it's my
54:13
Christmas tree. My Christmas tree is still up.
54:16
And this became a little bit of a battle with my wife.
54:19
I love Christmas, I love the decorations.
54:22
So what we had going was we took down, I took down basically all
54:26
the decorations in the house except for the Christmas tree.
54:30
And I was thinking, look, my daughter's birthday is January
54:33
19th, right? And then Ohio State has this
54:37
playoff run and I kind of like watching the games with a we
54:41
have a fireplace over here. I kind of like the ambience of
54:44
the fireplace and the Christmas tree.
54:46
So I tried to sell this to my wife and I said, what if we did
54:48
this? I said, what if after Christmas
54:51
we take down the Christmas decorations from the tree and we
54:55
make it a Janie Mae's birthday tree, right?
54:59
Like cuz her birthday is January 19th.
55:00
We keep it up to three weeks later, but we make it a birthday
55:03
tree. And she was not about that
55:05
whatsoever. She didn't like that idea.
55:06
I thought it was a creative idea.
55:08
So but you you is the tree still up?
55:11
So just yesterday she started taking the decorations down.
55:15
I basically just have to take the tree out of the stand and
55:17
throw it out. Our, our, our, our leaf waste
55:21
comes on Fridays, so today's Wednesday so I'll take it out by
55:24
Friday. But the the tree is still up,
55:26
but all the decorations are off it and it's ready to be taken
55:29
out of the house. Yeah, I one year I had No, I we
55:33
have always had artificial trees.
55:34
So it's different if it's alive versus artificial.
55:37
But we kept ours up just because we were busy and didn't care
55:39
until like I would say, I want to say it was almost March, 1
55:42
year and every night I would still turn it on every night, I,
55:46
every single night I would still turn it on 'cause I just like
55:49
the way it looked and I don't now there is something to be
55:53
said about only bringing it out for that, that time of year,
55:56
making it kind of a special occasion.
55:58
But on the other hand, there's just something cool about having
56:01
the lights of the Christmas tree.
56:03
Yes. And look, if you have to go
56:05
through the process of every year bringing it out, getting
56:11
all the ornaments out, you meant maybe you have some tinsel,
56:14
maybe you have a little set up underneath, maybe you just let
56:18
it ride all year. I mean, would that be the worst
56:21
thing in the world if you just let the tree up all year through
56:24
to save yourself the hassle of digging it out after
56:28
Thanksgiving? I've never tried it but I don't
56:31
know is it crazy? The lights do look cool, by the
56:34
way, and that that same thing at night, especially when you walk
56:37
through your house and and it's dark and you see the lights.
56:39
It looks cool. By the way, in Saint Louis.
56:41
I have John Rybol here, See he's bringing up the Ryan Day thing.
56:44
No, Ryan Day should not be fired.
56:46
They're on you for Ryan. Day.
56:48
Did I ever say that? No.
56:50
You probably saw this in Saint Louis.
56:52
There are people that they do their Christmas lights outside
56:55
their house, but then they either leave them up or they
56:58
turn them into Mardi Gras lights.
57:01
And so they're purple. They're whatever the Mardi Gras
57:04
colors. Is it purple and green and
57:05
yellow, whatever it is, right? So like you'll see that you'll
57:08
drive through Saint Louis. I just did this the other day.
57:11
I was surprised at how many lights I saw, but it's Mardi
57:13
Gras lights and I guess when's Mardi Gras?
57:15
Another month or so, so they're going to be up for a while.
57:18
Yeah, my son, he loves he's he has autism.
57:21
He watches his little tablet. He loves Christmas music.
57:23
So he will listen to Christmas music all year round.
57:27
Little Jingle Bells in like May or June, you know, just keep the
57:30
Christmas, everybody loves the Christmas time, right?
57:32
Everyone feel is feeling good, is happy.
57:34
So keeping it going all year round.
57:37
That's what I'm saying. Extend it as long as possible.
57:41
Have that tree up for a good solid two months.
57:43
Put it up. I'm cool with putting up the
57:45
decorations the day after actually Halloween.
57:48
I think it's cool to have seriously.
57:51
Well, the Christmas, the Christmas mood, Even though it's
57:54
Thanksgiving, I think you should have your decorations up for as
57:57
long as possible because it it puts people in a good mood.
57:59
Yeah, no, I agree. I used to not like it early and
58:03
I do think there has been a lot of Christmas creep.
58:06
But at a certain point, you know, the weather gets a little
58:10
colder. As long as it's not overboard,
58:12
as long as you're not blasting Christmas music everywhere that,
58:16
that early in the year. That's a little bit weird.
58:18
But I do like the idea of extending the happiness.
58:22
I think you're on to something here, Charlie, who put you, you
58:25
know what? Tell your wife that you're the
58:27
man of the house and you want that tree up and it's going to
58:31
stay up, damn it. You need to put your foot down
58:34
and you're just going to keep it up 12 months.
58:36
I'm going to I'm going to try that tonight.
58:38
I'll report back next week and we'll tell you how it goes.
58:40
There we go. On that note, we're almost at an
58:42
hour there. Perfect.
58:44
Everybody settle down the sports edition.
58:46
That's Eric Messersmith. I'm Charlie Marlowe, Please
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59:00
All right, I'm going to read John Rybolt just so we get to an
59:03
hour here. He says Charlie votes for his
59:05
wife, too, in the elections. You're saying I don't do that?
59:08
I don't do that. And John says, what is this your
59:11
12th YouTube channel? Charlie?
59:13
This is the football channel. We're building it up.
59:15
All right, It's all good, John, But thank you for your comments,
59:18
Eric. We'll see you, buddy.
59:19
Take it easy.