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They STOLE God's Medicine, Patented It & Sold It Back to You w/ Andrew Swedger · Man in America Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. The topic of medicine has been central to this show because I really believe that the medical industrial complex has been one of the main things that's been used to control the population, and not just control us, but to keep us sick, to hide the knowledge of how medicine used to operate. And that's also looking at the fact that when we grow up just relying on some doctor with a medical degree to fix our medical problems, we have no independence, there's no sovereignty. And so my guest today is a guy named Andrew Swedger, and he is a master herbalist.
• 0:56
  He's also a supply chain expert, a theologian. He's kind of wears a lot of different hats. But what we're gonna be talking about today is the fact that you can have your pharmacy in your own backyard. And it sounds kind of crazy for some, or maybe it makes total sense to you, maybe you're already doing it, but this is the reality, that the modern pharmaceutical industry, primarily in a lot of what they actually sell us as their over the counter medicines, are natural compounds that they find that exist in plants that grow right in your backyard. They then take the elements that are the healing elements of those plants, they synthesize them, they create a synthetic man made version, which often has a lot of side effects to it, because then they can patent that and sell it to us.
• 1:41
  Man can't patent nature, and so man creates man's version of nature, not God's version of nature, and we end getting sick because of it. And so in today's discussion, we're gonna be talking about what is the herbal garden that can be used for healing, how to grow and how to process these herbs, how to create tinctures and salves and different things that you can use to heal yourself. But also we'll be looking at what happens if the supply chain breaks down. What happens if you can't just walk to your local CVS to get your aspirin for that bad headache? And that's why this is a big part of it, because it's not just about making sure you're healthy, it's about sovereignty.
• 2:19
  It's about having true control. It's about being able to help heal your child if they're sick with what you can grow in your backyard. So I think that you're gonna really enjoy this. Andrew's a fantastic guest. He's a really smart guy.
• 2:31
  I have a lot of fun talking with him. And so this is gonna be not really a doom and gloom. We touched on some of the darker things, but it's actually a lot of hope because in a lot of ways, comes from knowing that you can do something. And learning how to create literally your own pharmacy in your backyard, that gives me a lot of hope, and it gives me a lot of power. So please enjoy this fun discussion with Andrew.
• 2:55
  Andrew, it's so good to have you on the show. Been looking forward to this conversation, and just you thank you for being here with us and giving us your time today.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Well, Seth, I appreciate the opportunity to come on the show. I think we're gonna have a wonderful conversation. I'm looking forward to it.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think so. I think we're blending a lot of my favorite topics. Not always kind of, you know, kind of happy topics, but, you know, sober topics, but also solutions to problems that our world is is is having right now. And so, I guess, let's just start start there, and looking at the current state of our world. And, you know, I'm not I'm a very spiritual person.
• 3:36
  I I'm not someone that is, I wouldn't say I'm overly religious. You know, I'm I'm very, very strict of strong faith in God. But I do believe that right now, that we are living in the days of Noah. I think that as as it have been alluded to us before, I think that we're seeing a lot of the same patterns that we saw biblically in looking at what does the world look like when it becomes saturated with evil. And that saturation is, as in the days of Noah, was then met with something to eliminate that saturation of evil, but also it took out a lot of lives with it.
• 4:11
  And so, anyway, kind of looking at your perspective, you've got a very, very interesting background from supply chains to theology and, getting into you're a master herbalist as well. And so, when you just when you look at the world today, and you look at what's happening with the evil that we have, how do you frame it? What state do you think our world is in right now?
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: It really appears, you know, starting out, I would say first ethnocentrically, our own government appears to be lawless in many ways. You know, where justice is not being taken place in areas it should. We all know about people who should be convicted of certain things, and it's just not happening. And then when we look at a bigger picture and we look at where things are going, especially when we see what's happening in Iran with the war, where we see oils not being able to be distributed, the supply chain has now been interrupted heavily, not only for the oil, the natural gas, but also the fertilizer. So where I foresee things are going, Seth, is future lockdowns.
• 5:23
  I see where they're going to probably limit fuel in various nations. I've already seen that just doing some research, for example, like in Sri Lanka, but they have to have a QR code to get fuel and it's rationed to them. So I foresee that we're going to see some of that. I think we're going to see some starvation. I think we're going to see some famine.
• 5:42
  I think we're going to see some difficult times. And I think it's time that we collectively, those that are thinking men and women who really trust God, come together with some solutions, and one of the things I'm really looking forward to is the art community, Seth.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because, you know, the idea of the art community really was kind of born out of the idea of the book Prep Like Noah, and thinking, how can I take this information on preparedness and make it accessible and and root it with a more, you know, biblical or more faith based perspective on, you know, why be prepared? It's not about animalistic survival and and shooting your neighbor so you can feed yourself. I mean, it's it's something that transcends that.
• 6:25
  But then it turned into this, was like, okay, well, what the book is something, what what kind of can outlive the book or what can become something that's more permanent that can really help people and continue to help people? Because as you know, when your own lifestyle of preparedness, it takes years and decades, you're still learning. It's something that nothing you can just teach in a simple book. And but as it's kind of been, kind of evolving into this, this community, the ARC community, and this idea that it is kind of, we're trying to build this ARC to preserve what's worth preserving, including knowledge, relationships. Mean, we're even building in all these little toolkits for it, like a food calculator, a garden planting guide, you can look at your your and see exactly what things should be planting, you know, what plants are hardened right now.
• 7:13
  Even a foraging guide, so you can look up based upon your location and see what are some foods you can forage for. So really trying to make it a tool for people, to use, but also a platform to really build relationships with people like yourself. Right? So you you say, oh, can ask Andrew this question about I'll send him I'll message him on my ARC app and say, hey, Andrew, what is this thing growing in my in my backyard? Can I eat this?
• 7:37
  Right? It's it's about building those kinds of relationships. And so it's, yeah, it's very, very exciting. And so, you know, so when you look at, just the state of things right now, and I couldn't agree more than looking at even our own government and saying, yeah. I mean, yeah, there's there's basically, what we have is this inversion of justice.
• 7:57
  We have this inversion of good verse of good and evil, where it's almost like the more evil someone is, the more freedom that they're given and the more money that they're able to earn. And the good people are oftentimes the ones that are being persecuted and targeted and just struggling to get by. And I think that, you know, really the whole system, right, I think the whole system has to, in some way, be rebuilt, or it has to, there's no way of fixing it. It's like having a cancer patient with stage four cancer in every organ and inside the bones, right? It's like there's no way to take that and fix it.
• 8:33
  It has to be kind of rebuilt and remade it, but that's a very painful and difficult process.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: Well, no doubt about it. And really, need people that have a solid foundation, as you had mentioned earlier about being spiritual, you know, we need to to have people that are mentally prepared for positions of power, rulership, and authority. They're emotionally prepared, so they're not all over the board like we see some of these tweets. They've got to be physically prepared. They've to have their body in the right shape and spiritually prepared.
• 9:04
  And so then they can lead in a proper way, and have the proper foundation, and ultimately having truth as our guide.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And so, you have a really interesting background. And I know that, I think it was, you know, sometime around your early 40s or so, you had an ailment, and you were able to cure yourself through very natural medicine and, you know, things that you can grow in your backyard. And that really, if I understand correctly, that really set you down this path of becoming a master or herbalist, which I think is one of the most important, you could almost say forgotten knowledge of humankind. It used to be so common that just your average person knew how to go out and just find the thing growing in your backyard that you needed.
• 9:53
  And that's been replaced with going to a doctor in a lab coat with a clipboard and he here's your prescription. Here's your petroleum based, you know, petrochemical, that you shove down your throat until it until it, you know, destroys your liver, and we'll give you something else for that. And so walk us through your your journey of of really learning how to heal yourself and what you've what you've come to from that.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. Well, years ago, I've always been an active man and I was used to ride my bicycle for thousands of miles every summer, summer after summer after summer. Just, you know, that was one of the ways I could go out, be in nature, get some good exercise, just enjoy that time, that solitude to really muse and think on my bicycle. So I really enjoyed that for several years of my life.
• 10:40
  And as a result, I ended up getting an enlarged prostate from sitting on my seat for too long, for too many years, and too many long rides. And I was really concerned because I thought to myself, well, I don't know what to do. I didn't know, you know, do I have prostate cancer? I don't want my prostate removed. I was afraid.
• 11:03
  I really was afraid. I wasn't sure what to do. I'd never been in a situation like that before. When I tried to sit down, was very uncomfortable. So I either had to sit on one cheek or the other cheek, but not straight down on the seat.
• 11:14
  I had frequent urination problems where I'd go up quite a bit and I was up all night. And really long story short, a friend introduced me to someone else who helped me through the process with herbs to heal my body and I essentially did a herbal remedy solution that they offered to me and within a month I was totally back to normal and that inspired me to go on to herb school. Thought, wow, there's something here. There's something here in nature. And for some reason, it's just interesting how we're not taught these things in the public education system.
• 11:48
  You know, we're only given one option, right? And we're not given the option, what I call the original medicine, what God created, which is herbs.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: And so, you're looking at this, this kind of path that you've gone on, and I think that, you know, we can take our discussion today and try to work in a lot of just really solid, kind of basic education on this, because even for me, I've studied a lot of these areas. I've never gone down the specific route of say, startling herbalism. I'm vaguely familiar with a lot of the different principles of it. We use these things almost daily in our own home. What does, like I I think that there's a common misperception that people have that that when you take an herb to treat yourself, it it's that maybe the efficacy is maybe only five percent or ten percent as strong as some some sort of other pharmaceutical treatment.
• 12:42
  It's like, oh, well, if you've got a headache, you should just take some aspirin, right? You should just do this. But how strong can herbs be? I mean, what what is the actual potency of what what we can find in our backyard in in terms of healing?
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question. And actually, these herbs are, for the most part, potent. I'll give you a good example of that. When we grow garlic, for example, a lot of people grow garlic, and garlic has many medicinal purposes and is also delicious to eat too. But when I'm looking to grow a garlic to put into one of my formulas, I'm going to grow a garlic that is more pungent.
• 13:20
  The more pungent the garlic is, the stronger it's going to be and the medicinal action it's going to have. And also to answer your question a little bit more, it really depends on the time of the season. So if I'm going to extract a herb that's grown in the ground, a root like Echinacea root, I'm going to want to try to extract that in the fall when all the energy has gone back down into the plant and it's going to be the most potent at that time of the year. Now if I'm going to extract something that's growing above ground, for example, maybe it's lemon balm and I have my fresh leaves that are growing, all the energy, excuse me, is in the leaves at that time before it starts to bud and flower. So you want to extract whatever you're going to do in nature when it's at its most potent potent time.
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• 15:14
  Tinctures, for instance, right? This one is, here's, you know, testosterone boosters, this one of yours, right? You know, products, this is a heart tincture, right? So, are, you know, blends, right, with alcohol. And you look at this and you look it's like, I can't make this.
• 15:34
  Right? This is this is some kind of medicine thing. But, like, how simple is it? Walk us through what it creates to create a tincture. And and I guess, the question with that is that, what are the different forms that you you kind of utilize these herbs in application?
• 15:51
  Is it just mostly tinctures and salves? So I guess just kind of give us this kind of basic kind of 101 for herbal healing.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Doctor. Okay. Well, think, I think really, if we take a step back to answer that, from a broader perspective, and then we'll narrow in a little bit more is we got to think of everything God created has purpose. He said, He called it very good in Genesis one thirty one. So if we know that God's a God of purpose and everything He created has purpose, then we need to be about purpose.
• 16:22
  And I think that's where our society kind of struggles with. They eat out of cravings and desires of what tastes good rather than, well, how is this good for my liver? How is this good for my kidneys? How is this good for my brain? How is this good for my prostate?
• 16:35
  How is this good for my colon? How is this going to boost my testosterone levels or balance my hormones out or whatever it may be? So I think the biggest thing is to have that paradigm shift of understanding that everything that we have here on earth that God created and He called very good has purpose. So then we start to integrate purpose into every area of our life. And purpose requires having goals and whatever those areas are so we can continue to grow.
• 16:59
  So that's just kind of the basic overview of understanding that there's purpose in every formula that's being made and every herb that God created. There's benefits in it. Sometimes there's multiple benefits in these herbs and multiple phytonutrients that can benefit the body and the herb itself or herbs, whatever it is. So then when it comes to learning about herbs, I like to tell people, let's start at a basic understanding. When we talk about purpose, here's a good book, if you can see it, called Healing Foods.
• 17:28
  Wonderful to teach children with a lot of good pictures and education. Real simple book, but just to start thinking in terms of purpose. So we got to start understanding what's in these foods, what's in these herbs, and once we understand that, then we can say, okay, how can we use these to benefit our bodies? How can we use these herbs to prevent things from happening? Because we don't want to be in a situation of intervention, we want to live a life of prevention.
• 17:57
  And so when we live with purpose, we start to live out of prevention because we don't want to have these situations. We don't want to be in a situation that you know having to go to the ER or whatever. So we start to learn a little bit about these herbs and then we start using them, whether it's herbs that we wildcraft in nature, we grow in our garden, or we purchase, and we start to use these herbs. And if we're gonna, not only for eating herbs, but like you'd mentioned, there's tinctures, I make capsules, You can have salves. There's all kinds of different things you can do with with these herbs.
• 18:33
  So when it comes to making a tincture itself, we have to look at two different things. We have fresh herbs that we extract from the wild. Okay, let's just say we went and picked, we're at your property and you said, I want to make this tincture today. Let's go grab these herbs. I see them over there.
• 18:48
  So we would grab that herb off your property, whatever that was. And obviously we'd wash that herb off. But when we're using a fresh herb that we find out in the wild, or that's fresh and still has water content in it, we need to use a solvent that's almost pure alcohol. So don't want to have something like a vodka per se because there's already water still in that herb, and so we need that to all balance itself out. So we need to have an alcohol that has basically very little water in it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Like 90% and up or so?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yes. So for a fresh herb, you're going to want a higher content of alcohol. Now if we're using a dry herb that let's say we start up, we preserve, put up from last year on our property or we bought it, whatever, we're going to want to use something like a vodka because the water is already out of the herb, so the herb is dried now. It's been cut and sifted, and so now we're going to have alcohol plus water plus herb versus when we're using a fresh herb, we have water and the herb in the herb itself and then we use alcohol so it all balances out, if that makes sense.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It does, yes.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yep, so we have to understand that when we're using these solvents. Now the beautiful thing about alcohol itself is alcohol never expires. So this is what I really love about tinctures, is technically a tincture twenty years from now is still going to work. It's still going to be just fine because that alcohol hasn't expired. Or versus a capsule, you're only going to have a limited shelf life, eighteen months to two years, you know, typically.
• 20:26
  Where a tincture you can have indefinitely, you can pass on to the next generation. You can use these to barter and trade with in the future when people aren't gonna go into a certain system and they need something, you'll have something to offer them five years from now, ten years from now, two years from now, whatever it is. So, definitely.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And so and actually, I'm glad you mentioned bartering because think that's a it's a really important point. And there are a lot of people that I've seen looking at comments or talking, and they might think, oh, you know, I don't have a lot of extra money, and so I'm screwed. Right? That's kind of the idea. Right?
• 21:01
  It's like, I I I can't go buy, you know, a thousand ounces of silver. I can't go buy 500 pounds of beans or, you know, 10,000 rounds of ammo. I can't go buy those things to use for bartering. And so they kind of kinda throw their hands up a little bit. But one thing that I've oftentimes said is that skills and knowledge are arguably more important and more useful than even physical goods when it comes to bartering because it's like what you've said with this.
• 21:32
  Right? If you can create these tinctures, and obviously, there's little bit of cost involved in this. Right? You know? So, you know, if you're trying to kind of prep for that barter mentality, maybe you wanna get a box of 500 bottles with droppers.
• 21:45
  Right? Maybe you wanna get a couple cases of of moonshine or whatever alcohol you're gonna use. But, you know, it's like in a in a system where either you have no access to centralized medicine, which is a very real possibility if there's any kind of grid down scenario or something like that, it's, that's a very real possibility where you can no longer call 911, you can no longer walk into a CVS to fill a script, you're on your own. Or in a situation like what you mentioned, where if you want access to this medicine we're going give you, you have to show your vaccine passport or show that your carbon credits haven't exceeded your monthly usage or whatever. In both those instances, you're going to have a massive parallel economy of people that in full parallel society, of people that still need to be able to treat heart, you know, issues, joint pains, any number of things.
• 22:41
  And so, if you can learn, it's like how much is say this was a thing of white willow bark, right? Which is, know, that's kind of where they got aspirin from. You know, a bottle of that white willow bark might only cost you, you know, 3 or $4 in actual materials, but that bottle right there could be worth more than a thousand rounds of ammo to someone that has joint issues. So this is the again, but you have to you have to learn these things. Think it's a really important mindset in looking at preparedness is to think like this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Well, absolutely. And and you brought up a great point. Our health is our wealth. So we could have all the gold, silver, and all these other tangible assets. Perhaps we could have redundancies in our preps even, right?
• 23:25
  We could have all kinds of backups. But if we don't have our health or we're in bad shape or we're bedridden or we don't have our strength, our drive, our vigor, a sound mind, what good is it? We would trade all of those things for our health. So our health is our wealth. So I think the key is we need to be healthy.
• 23:45
  We need to be full of vigor, full of strength, full of drive, have these ambitions, have a sound mind, and and be able to really participate in society in a positive way.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And so back to kind of just the more nuts and bolts of this. Let's just say that we wanted to make, an oregano oil tincture. Alright, which I know is has a lot of very powerful antibiotic properties to it. And it won't destroy your gut bacteria, like a number of, penicillin or whatever.
• 24:13
  And so, let's just say that, you know, we've got oregano, which we actually we have it, you know, it's a beautiful plant that's come back from last year. It's a huge plant. It's amazing. But whether it's a is dried oregano, you've kinda hung up the dry or you've got fresh oregano. What's the process look like to go from that those green leaves into a bottle like this that will last for potentially centuries, right?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, after we've extracted that herb and cleaned it off, whether it's dry or fresh, then, we're going to mix it with our solvent, whatever that that alcohol solvent is. You can use vegetable glycerin. Now, when I make tinctures for children, I I typically will do that or people that are really finicky. It's a sweeter flavor, but that tincture is only going to last for about eighteen to twenty four months.
• 25:02
  So you can use that as a solvent instead of alcohol. But I prefer the alcohol because I'm thinking in prudent measures. But anyways, so once we have the herb, we want to use a large amber jar, 64 ounces. This is only 32 ounces. Matter of fact, I have in here cayenne pepper, very high heat units because this will coagulate.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Actually, I used that before because actually, quick side story. I was about three or four years ago, was working on my chicken coop, building a chicken coop, and I was really kinda silly, more so stupid. And I was out in the rain was wearing Birkenstocks. I was lifting up a four by eight sheet of plywood, and it slipped. It landed right across my toes, and it it just it smashed my big toe.
• 25:51
  I think he it kinda hit it right at the base of the nail, and it was pretty nasty. It was bleeding. And actually, think my wife did a quick search, and we found out that cayenne pepper was really good for, coagulating blood. And so I just, I put some cayenne pepper on my toe, and it actually stopped all the bleeding.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, it works great. I had an incident where actually a chainsaw hit my knee I needed something quickly and this is what I used. I ended up healing it with cayenne pepper, with olive oil and garlic.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: As my antibacterial. And these are important things also for people to know because if you can't get into a system, how can you take care of yourself and empower people to understand, well, what do I do if I have that cut and I can't go in because I'm not going to take some sort of subcutaneous injection, or I don't meet their qualification for whatever reason, or maybe there's a travel restriction, I can't even get there. So it's wonderful to understand this. But anyway, so we have our amber bottle, we put in our herb, we put in our alcohol, and then what we're going to do is make sure you always label your tincture. Write down what it is and the date of when you do this, okay?
• 27:10
  And then we're going to start shaking that tincture every day. And I put it in an area where I walk by so it's kind of in my way and I got to come by and do this quite a bit and just keep shaking it up for about thirty days is really what you're going to want to do. And I try to follow the moon calendar itself and to understand the phases of the moon to know exactly when I'm going to actually press this and get out all the juice. So you do need some sort of a press. You can do it primitively if you have some sort of a rag or something where you could squeeze it all out.
• 27:43
  But I encourage people you can you can even buy a cheap press for probably $100 on Amazon or somewhere. And you're going to want to press that herb and really squeeze out all of the juices in there and press as hard as you can and get everything out. And then essentially from there, you're just going to bottle them up and put them into tinctures, or you can keep them in a large jar. It really depends. But make sure you label everything you do so you know.
• 28:08
  Otherwise, you could have something that you made and you forgot what it was or you're making multiple things, and you can mix it up. So I tell people, make sure that you always label what you're doing.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: So even just looking like something like this, for instance, this is, you know, $86, even like a little press like this? Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Red one right there in the middle is perfect. That will work.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yep. But something like that will work just fine.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And so, so basically then, you you take this bottle where you had your herbs and your alcohol in there, and after you've, roughly a month or so, have it sit sitting, you're shaking it every day, you then kind of pour it through, I'm guessing, like a sieve or something, which gets the alcohol out first, then you put whatever is left into the press and you press it. And does that just mix back into your original alcohol mixture and that becomes your your tincture?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well with the one you showed right there, actually, that was the first press I ever got was that one right there.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That one. Know, because I was starting out and it's like, okay, well I don't really know what I'm doing much and this is within my budget at that time and so, I I got something very similar to that but if you basic, you turn that, you turn the the knob at the top and then you pull that out and you just basically pour everything from your amber jar in there, and then you have another jar where you're going to collect everything, and there's a filter inside there. So it filters all the herbs to stay in there, and then you basically just keep turning and pressing down the pressure, and it'll keep squeezing out all of the juice.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Okay. And now how do you, like, how do you control dosing? So, like, let's just say, for instance, you're you're, like, okay.
• 29:50
  Let's let's talk about white willow bark. Right? Which is where they think they've gotten aspirin from, which and actually, I wanna ask you more of a broader question before we we kinda get into that specifically. But am I correct that you're saying that if you look at you know, before we're talking about the efficacy and the strength of herbs versus pharmaceuticals. And if I understand correctly, a lot of the pharmaceuticals that they're selling us are just them kind of using a lab to replicate something found in nature because they can't patent oregano oil as an antibiotic.
• 30:26
  Right? So is that a lot of what's happening is that they're literally just finding they're basically finding what God gave us in nature. They're creating a synthetic version of it with all kinds of side effects that are obviously not good, but they're then patenting it and then selling it as medication. I mean, is that really what a lot of the modern pharmaceutical industry has become?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it absolutely has. Matter of fact, they still use about 40, maybe almost 50% plant based herbs that they just simply synthetically alter. So let's use the white willow for example. So the main ingredient that's going to help with the anti inflammatory is the salicin. And obviously there 's other phytonutrients and benefits in the wholesome herb itself but they're not interested in that because like you said, they can't patent, they can't patent any of this.
• 31:15
  So, they take that one key component out that has those benefits of the anti inflammatory properties and I and by the way, white willow is a wonderful tincture. I use it all the time for aches and pains. But they take that they took that out accompanied by the name of Bayer in the mid eighteen hundreds. I think it was around 1860 and they took the salicin and they converted that to acetylsalicylic acetylsalicylic acid and called it an aspirin. They patented it, and here we are today.
• 31:41
  People buying an aspirin, but they have some side effects, you know, with stomach issues where you're not going to have that really when you're using a herb in a wholesome state. It's not been synthetically altered, as we know with the prescription medications that you'd mentioned earlier, that usually there's side effects when you take those prescription drugs.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And so how do you manage dosing for this? Because I'm assuming that as you get into some of these herbs, that they can become quite potent. And say you're also dosing for a child, right? Say you've got a kid that has some sort of ailment that you want give them some white willow bark, That would be one of my concerns is that what if I'm giving them, you know, like a horse tranquilizer amount of, of this? Now, it's not gonna have the same effect as these pharmaceuticals when you overdose.
• 32:29
  Like, you can't take a whole bottle of aspirin. It'll just destroy you. But how do you manage and understand dosing when it comes to creating these?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, excellent question. Okay, so when we're dealing with dosing, it's based on one hundred and fifty pounds. So let's say your child weighed seventy five pounds, that's fifty percent of the dose, Just making it in simple terms. So, whatever their weight is, you're going to divide that. If they're fifty pounds, they're going to get a third of the dose.
• 32:58
  And so, that's how you dose that with children is you base that on one hundred fifty and then one hundred fifty pounds divided by whatever they weigh and you're going to know what to give them. And the other thing too is you really can't overdose on these herbs. And if they're in a situation where they're not feeling well and you say, Look, they're asking for more, or It looks like they need more, we have to play doctor that way a little bit and try to observe and try to make a sound judgment with some of these things too, because every situation is going to be different.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And so, what about I want to ask you your thoughts, because I've, as I've looked at this before, I've come across a lot of information talking about how, basically, that the herbs or the the medicinals that you need oftentimes will naturally be growing in in in your garden, like, on your property. Right? And this is something that I'm coming across thinking like, oh, wow, that's that's pretty incredible.
• 34:01
  And there's always different stories about it where people are realizing that there's this one plant that keeps growing, it keeps growing, right, in their backyard. And they find out it's actually, it's the exact plant that they need to cure a specific ailment. So, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that because you obviously have a lot of experience in this.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Doctor. Well, that's exactly right. It's kind of interesting, the irony, I believe, how God has put that in nature. So, let's use poison ivy for example and I've ran into poison ivy before and several other people have and one of the solutions in nature is jewel weed and so and jewel weed is typically grown contiguous to poison ivy. So if you know how to identify jewelweed, you're going to have your solution right there in nature.
• 34:49
  But here's the interesting thing, just a slight digression about jewelweed itself, the root has a lot of saponins in it And saponins, if you get them wet, are soapy. And here's a wonderful thing when we're talking about, let's just say grid down scenario where it's, I really don't want to say Mad Max, but it could be a dangerous situation, for example. And so maybe we have to do some hunting and foraging for food, perhaps. I don't really know. But anyways, if you have a creek or not a creek, I'm sorry, a pond or a lake, and you have a high enough concentration of saponins, you can actually put those saponins into the water and what that does is it paralyzes fish and they float to the surface.
• 35:35
  So, if you needed to have food quickly, you could have these saponins, you'll paralyze the fish, they'll float to the surface, they're not dead, scoop up what you need with your net and get out of there. So when we talk about preparatory things and herbs and other things we can do, there's multiple benefits we can get into of things like that. But yeah, jewelweed is going to be one of those things in nature that you can find to help out. Now let's say you rub up against this poison ivy, you don't know what jewelweed is, but you're real close to home, So one of the things I do right away, Seth, immediately with poison ivy is I don't put any hot water on. I put isopropyl alcohol on it right away.
• 36:16
  The next thing I do is I let that dry off, and then I take bentonite clay with some apple cider vinegar and water, and I make that into a paste, and let's say it was on my hand, I would put it, I put the paste on my hand. And what the bentonite clay is gonna do is it's gonna draw the oils out from the poison ivy that causes the itching. And then I take an old cotton sock, and I cut off the top where the fingers are and the thumb. I just slide that over the top of my hand so I can still go about my day, but I'm not gonna be touching that area. And then I wash it off the next day, for the most part, the poison ivy's gone.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah. I've, not sure why. I've actually got I've got poison ivy right now as we speak. I've got a little patch on it, and I think I because I looked at it wrong.
• 36:59
  That's just how it happens for me. But as a kid, I at one point, I think that maybe just it just kinda God teach me a lesson, but we my buddies and I, we were toilet papering a friend's house, and we were crawl we were we were all decked out in camo. I look grew up in the country. This is what you do in the country. Right?
• 37:16
  We were crawling through the forest to toilet paper him and camo and everything. And within a couple of days, I I had poison ivy. And I I honestly, I think probably 30% of my body was covered in poison ivy. My entire face. My inner thighs were swelled up so much.
• 37:32
  They're rubbing every time I had to walk like I was, you know, had some sort of bowel issue. Right? And and I would literally lay in the kitchen counter with a tub full of with a sink full of ice water and with a snorkel. And I'd just sit my face in the ice water with a snorkel. Was the only way I could find comfort.
• 37:49
  So I've always had had nasty run ins with poison ivy. And so I've also in that process, learned to recognize jewelweed. And, so what I would do is before I knew about how to making, you know, sows or anything like that, I would just get a bunch of jewelweed, jewelweed and kind of soak it in some water and kind of try to extract it and kind of use that as a, to kind of rub it on my, on the areas.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, definitely. And see, here's the thing. When we talk about, let's say we get poison ivy in the future, and again, what if we can't go into a system where that's going to offer prednisone? Well, what are my solutions? You know, how do I take care of myself in that situation?
• 38:27
  Because I don't want to itch to death, right? So I need to be able to empower myself to know how to do that and teach others. So yeah, definitely. I think this is just another area that we need to know about.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And so, what does the path look like for someone that wants to learn this information? Because, you know, as we were talking about before we started recording, it's spring where we're at. So, know, my wife and I, we've been out past couple of days. Planting. We're, you know, seeing, like, the perennial things that we have that are coming back.
• 38:57
  So, we live in New York, and so it's definitely a four season climate. And it's this amazing time when you realize that you can see all the plants coming back, right? Your true perennials are coming back. It's this beautiful process, and we've got herb gardens, and we we really our our goal is to plant out our whole property full of just anything that's gonna give us value, right? So we've got apple trees and cherry trees and blueberry bushes and raspberries.
• 39:24
  We've comfrey everywhere, which is because the chickens eat comfrey, love, you know, eating the comfrey. Herbs, and you know, that's just we want to have this kind of a living garden of that's really kind of our medicine cabinet, it's also the pantry. And so, if someone wants to go along the path of learning how to do this, where do you recommend that we start? Because I think that that's ultimately, it's really, it's teaching someone to fish, right? And how do we learn to fish from the herbal healing perspective?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Sure. Well, I got a couple of things here. Let's start with identifying edible foods in the wild. So here's a great book, a lot of different photos. We want to be able to identify.
• 40:07
  We to touch this herb, we might want to smell this herb, we might want to taste that herb, right? So we need to be able to identify herbs in the wild. I've got another book where you can identify berries in the wild, you know, because there's all kinds of berries that are very good for us that we can extract from the wild. And then I've got a fun little, it's called Wild Cards, and this is great for children. Know, you want to be able to teach them a fun little game.
• 40:34
  You pull out a card, it shows the herb, wonderful color photos, it gets into some descriptions. So I would say if you want to just start to learn what's outside in nature, you can start there. And then when you want to get into into this subject in greater detail, we need to learn. Here's a couple books. We need to learn a little bit more about these herbs and their herbal actions.
• 40:59
  Okay, so I would recommend a couple books like that. I've got another book. We need to learn a little bit about botany so we can identify various things about these herbs because there are look alikes and there could be poisons in nature. Then I recommend another book on herbs for the rescue, first aid. What are the herbs we can grow on our property for first aid?
• 41:23
  Like you mentioned, comfrey, you know, if we break a bone or
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: A bone stitcher, right? As they called it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So we need to know, is my first aid kit's in my backyard, but where do I find everything? So I would say there's kind of a wide variety and then figure out what area you want to learn. But I think really understanding the benefits and the purpose of the herbs and then learning how to use them and apply them to our lives, whatever that may be.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll pull up both these books here. This is the one you showed the Potter's Erbil Encyclopedia, and, and then also, we've got the Herbs to the Rescue. So I'll be I'll be I'll be buying both these books. That's what we do. We've got a we have a library, and we've just got shelves and shelves of these kinds of books.
• 42:12
  And even if I if I I'll buy it. I may not even look at it. I just kinda buy it. I throw up on the shelf. And so that way, know that even if there's complete grid down scenario, I've got these resources.
• 42:24
  And then, you know, also, when when we get around to to wanting to learn this, they're there as well. And one thing that we also do is, I have this little app on my phone. I think it's called PictureThis, which is just a plant identifier app. That's a that's know, it's also part of a learning process because it's not like just using GPS and and and you kind of have no idea where you're going unless you use the GPS. It's actually a really useful tool because even yesterday, my wife and I are walking our property, and there's this kind of big bush that's growing.
• 42:53
  It's, you know, probably three and a half feet tall and, you know, say three feet wide. And I'm like, what is this? And I had no idea what it was. And I pulled it out. It's actually it's a black cherry tree.
• 43:03
  And so I was like, oh, incredible. It's just I'm not sure how it got there. Maybe a bird, you know, pooped it there and it sprouted. But that's also part of what we do. And so we go on on walks very often.
• 43:15
  And a lot of our walking is we live in a very rural area. It's just walking up and down our road, but Yes. It's amazing just what's growing in the ditch along the road. We've got garlic mustard growing, you know, which we've harvested it and ate it, we had goats before, the goats loved it. We've got mullein growing, we've got all these different things just growing in the ditch.
• 43:39
  But having that app, it's really helped me because I can very quickly identify something and I'll remember it too. Was like, now I know what that plant is.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, well there is a treasure trove of things in the wild and it's important to identify them, But then the opposite is true. If we want to motivate people to go in this direction, they need to understand about the history of vaccines and why we don't want these things that the system is offering. So I encourage you have to have the knowledge kind of on both sides because you have to have a motivation to say, Well, wait a minute, things aren't quite right, or I'm not going to go get one of these subcutaneous injections. And as a herbalist, we don't even believe in any of those things. We're strongly opposed to anything puncturing the skin.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, exactly. And that's what a lot of it is, is it's been this process. It's really a process of deprogramming, right? Because we're born into a world where we're born into already generations and generations of programming. And even, you know, I had, you know, older family members, I'm talking about vaccines, for instance, the COVID vaccine.
• 44:43
  They'll say, well, you know, the the polio polio vaccine did x, y, and z. And it's you can tell that these are things that they might have learned in the seventies or in the sixties that are still implanted. So it's this it's this process where I think most of the audience for the show are kind of right where you and I are in terms of just this understanding, but it's this this learning that this pharmaceutical industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, its goal is not to make us all healthy and happy. Right? You you could say that from a very basic point, its its goal is to maintain profits and that sick people are more profitable if your business is selling medicines.
• 45:20
  And then you could probably get into the fact that maybe their goal is even tied into some sort of depopulation agenda, which makes a lot of sense too the more you dig. So that's part of it. But then you start to realize that, okay, with these things that they've given us are bad and oftentimes poison us. And of course, modern medicine has its place for some things. Like if I, you know, get shot in the shoulder with a gun, I want to go to the ER and have it fixed, I'm not gonna try to go find an herb to rub on that to fix it for me.
• 45:48
  But it's also this process of learning. It's like, okay, well, you know, Rockefeller, Flexner Report, like they really took over this whole medical system of healing. They've turned it into this modern kind of, you know, kind of trained accredited doctor medical school system. Bieseck was like, well, it's not like people in the eighteen hundreds just died all the time because they had no way of healing themselves. They knew how to grow herbs and knew how to make tinctures.
• 46:15
  And so it's this really amazing process of just kind of returning back to these roots of being human again. And it's this I don't know, it's just it's an incredible process because, a, it is it empowers you, but, b, I felt like on a deeper level, it brings you closer to God. Because when you see this like, even this morning, as I was preparing for to come down for the interview, I was in my bathroom brushing my teeth and looking out over our backyard, and we live on out there you know, have a lot of trees. And I'm looking, and we have all the little helicopter seeds just flying across the whole yard. And I'm thinking, how could you possibly look at that and still be an atheist?
• 46:55
  To really think that these trees just evolved in the way that they want so much to create more life that they literally dispersing thousands and thousands of seeds that off of a 100 foot or a 60 foot tree will will travel, you know, 200 feet away on a nice breeze, and it'll land and you'll have a little tree growing there. It's just it's just, it's amazing this process of really through nature, I think getting closer to God.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. There's no doubt about it. And I think too, when we're talking about having, growing our food outside, one of the things I know your audience is astute to this, and you've talked about it before, and that's chemtrails. So how do we mitigate these chemtrails? So for example, when we're growing our garden, we know from chemtrails that aluminum and barium and other, let's just say toxic, non friendly to our body, whatever they are, spraying.
• 47:52
  But we know some of the ingredients for sure. Well, if our soils in our garden has sufficient boron, aluminum can't be uptaken into the plant itself. And that's the same with our body. If we have enough boron in our body, aluminum can't reside. Now, that have Alzheimer's, one of the common denominators is heavy metals.
• 48:16
  There's other things, of course, but heavy metals. So I always make sure that we have sufficient amount of boron in our body and also in the soil of our garden so our plants won't uptake that heavy metal. And then when it comes to the barium, that's the same thing here. We need sufficient amount of selenium in our body so the barium cannot reside within the body, and we don't want it to uptake into our plants. So make sure you have selenium in your garden and you're using a lot of trace minerals really feed the soil what it needs because we have to be vigilant.
• 48:46
  Unfortunately, they're going to continue to spray and spray and spray.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting because that's been one of the things I've really been trying to wrap my head around. Was thinking, okay, maybe the only solution is to build a greenhouse. Right? Maybe the only solution is to actually cover the plants so that the rain, the poisonous rain can't get on my plants, but it and that's that's a that's a lot of work and that's expensive to do. And I was just kinda thinking about this because, know, we're on well water.
• 49:13
  We have really healthy well water, Actually, we've had tested recently. And so that's what we used to do primarily to water. But obviously, you know, if a big storm comes through, you can't stop that from happening. And so now, selenium and boron, how do you how do you how do you get those into the into the soil?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you want to look for, let's say a product like azomite, and I believe that's made out in Utah, and you can get bags of it that have the trace minerals. So we're looking essentially for trace minerals that we can then put into our soil. And you want to obviously do that every year. You want to continue to add and amend the soil itself because, like like we talked about, they're going to continue with these chemtrails. I don't see any benevolence to of them pulling back anytime soon.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Actually, I think that I was trying to think actually, think that this is what we got. So I haven't put the money my wife ordered these last year. We had a big box of this, I think it might be this actually right here that showed up. And if I remember correctly, that this is, yeah, these are for gardening.
• 50:19
  She got a whole box of these things. I was like, what are you ordering these Texas Ready Trace Element nutrient packs? Think that is this what that is actually? Is this what you're talking about?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. So something like that that's going to have the trace minerals in it. Obviously, more minerals the better because the minerals also have purpose too, and we need minerals in our body. We don't want to be deficient in minerals. But another solution too, Seth, with this spraying that they're doing, or in the future, we're hearing about fertilizer shortages.
• 50:51
  So people might not have their soil that they need in order to produce as much food. Their soil might not be compatible. So another thing I encourage people is sprouts. Sprouts you can grow inside year round. Three to five days later, you're eating dense, nutritious food.
• 51:09
  There's not going to be a chemtrail that hits your sprouts that are sitting on your kitchen counter. So that is another solution or eating that during the wintertime if we didn't preserve what we grew in our garden by canning or freezing or dehydrating or whatever we do.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. And so I want you to tell us about your because you, as we've been kind of holding up and showing, you also sell a lot of these, right? And, and you, you now, you make all these yourself, right? Like you're not, you're some kind of just putting your label on something you're ordering, right? You, you craft every drop of liquid in these, tinctures, right?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Not only do I craft it, I take, I take all these myself.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. You
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: know, so yes, absolutely.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Is that why your beard's so thick? Is that because you've been taking the testosterone booster formula? Is that what does
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: It that for works, my friend. It's amazing, the results you get from the testosterone boosting tincture. I've got a couple of photos on my website, not to be hubris, but I want people to see, yes, these are the results you get from taking these products.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, where are those photos at?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: If you go to that superior manpower tincture and click on click on all the products.
• 52:31
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• 52:37
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• 52:41
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• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me. So I want people to know, you're going to get great results with these products. I'm not only the guy who makes it, but here's the evidence, know, here's the proof in the pudding.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Wow. And I imagine you're not, you know, sit around and look like this, you got you got to be active, right? But but still, I mean, that's, you know, and you're not 25 years old, like it's hard to have a physique like that.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, well, any man can do this, it's just understanding again, how do we feed our bodies? If we look at like a car, for example, a car needs maintenance, so our body needs maintenance. So how can we eat the right foods, give it the right fuel, how do we maintain the body so we don't run into issues? So, for example, on my prostate tea and tincture kit, as men, we don't want to lose our drive, we don't want to lose our vigor, we don't want to lose our strength, we don't want to lose our ability to be intimate with our spouse, We don't want to lack flow issues. We don't want to be up all night peeing.
• 53:50
  So, I created this, developed this powerful prostate tea and tincture kit and basically, you do it for a couple of weeks and you're gonna notice a difference. Every man who turns 40 this year or is 40 and over, I
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Actually, I turned 40 this year, funny enough.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, then this is the year, brother, because you want to prevent things from happening. You don't want to be in a situation like I was or worse for that matter. So every man who's over 40 or turning 40 this year, I recommend doing this once a year. Now if you have issues currently, what ED, flow issues, up all night peeing, these other things I mentioned, then I would encourage you to do it back to back and you can do it two to four times a year.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing. So walk us through some of the other things. Also, I know we have a promo code for you to get 10% off, right? It's Man in America 10. Is that correct?
• 54:47
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• 54:48
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• 54:49
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• 55:14
  There's a lot of deceptions happening even in a place like Whole Foods. It's like the same way, you know, we get we drink raw milk, and I the milk farm we get our milk from is four minutes away. I know the family that runs it. I see the cows out grazing on these beautiful pastures, and that's what we feed our family. And so and the thing is, is I've talked to them too, and then I've said, hey, what what do what do do about lockdowns or what?
• 55:38
  They start coming after raw milk, and they're like, we won't comply. Right? And that's like, that's the thing is that that's what we need is do we need to and it's also a big part what we have with the ARC, and I wanna make sure that we're gonna list businesses on the ARC. So I wanna make sure that we get your business listed on the ARC, because that way people can know that, hey, you're someone that supports, aligns with these values, and that you're not gonna be someone who's just gonna fold and give into the government mandates and whatever it is. And so anyway, just, I feel so honored to be able to have people like yourself and show what you're creating with your hands and your wisdom and your experience and your faith that's being poured into these products.
• 56:15
  I really just appreciate that. I really, really do.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Well, we're thankful for that opportunity. Just to go over a few other products here real quick, the Superior Manpower Testosterone Boosting Tincture. Now that has two amino acids and an L Arginine and L citrulline, and you need the ratio of five grams of arginine to one gram of citrulline. And that's going to that's a precursor to convert to nitric oxide, where it opens up the arteries to get the blood to flow. So it's a natural Viagra.
• 56:44
  And then the other herbs in that product are all testosterone boosting herbs, the deer antler velvet, the tribulus, the long jack, and the fenugreek. So, they all work synergistically to to boost our testosterone and you will notice the difference. For example, I work out five, maybe six days a week but I'll I'll do on like a Saturday for example and I thank god that he's given me the strength to do this but I can do a thousand push ups and it's taking time to build up to that using decks of cards but it's possible to really get yourself into that shape. And I attribute a lot of it to this formula because all the energy I get. So this is a wonderful formula.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I'll a note on there for the lady listeners. This will be a great gift for your husband or significant other. Absolutely.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I get a lot of women who buy the Prostate Tea and Tincture and the Superior Manpower Tincture for their husbands, but we're going to go over Deer Antler Velvet and how that benefits the women here shortly because I have something special for them. So stay tuned ladies, we're going go over that real quick. But I wanted to mention on arginine very quickly on my blog on ourfathersherbs.com. Now there's over 100,000 articles, scientific articles, on our gene itself, but I put one up there from PubMed, and it talks about how nitric oxide gets the blood to flow through the body, and then it goes over, it's a vasodilator, it's a neurotransmitter that regulates nutrients and metabolism in the body. It's a killer of bacteria, fungi, parasites, viruses, including coronavirus one and two.
• 58:25
  Interestingly enough, they didn't offer this solution to us, right?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: So you're going to find that there's immune building properties within this formula also. The next one I want to go over is my brain tincture. Now we're fighting a battle for our minds, right? And how can we protect our minds? We don't want to get Alzheimer's.
• 58:50
  We want to have a sound mind. We want to have dementia. So in this formula, my brain formula, I have herbs that boost the memory, which would be Ginkgo and Goticola, and then I also have herbs that prevent the loss of acetylcholine, which Ginkgo is one of them, and Rosemary and Sage. One of the common denominators with people that have Alzheimer's is they have heavy metals in the body like we talked about, but they're also lacking acetylcholine. And so how do we prevent the loss of acetylcholine?
• 59:21
  Well, we do that with these type of herbs. But the beautiful thing is we can actually, over time, become smarter if we eat foods that have choline in them. Foods that are rich in choline convert to acetylcholine in the body. For example, like eggs, beef liver, cilantro is loaded with choline, but it also is a chelator of heavy metals, you get a two for one there. Now acetylcholine is a neurotransmitter that acts as a chemical messenger in the body and essentially it regulates the voluntary muscles in our body.
• 59:57
  It's also for our memory, learning, attention, and arousal. So again, we don't want to lose our ability to be intimate with our spouse. So there's just another benefit from eating foods rich in acetylcholine. Then we have our digestive tonic.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Actually, want to say something real quick. Just to you mentioned arousal, right? And obviously, testosterone, libido, and these are things that, I think that, again, as the modern world has completely tainted and inversed what God has given us, they've turned sex and the sex drive into this just disgusting thing that is, you know, about how many partners you've had and, you know, all this whole thing is just a complete mess. But actually, it's it's healthy, right? Because it's it's the that that is a the fundamental driver of of procreation, right, is is that that energy and that libido that and I I know even with with my wife, you know, we're very happily married.
• 1:00:55
  We have two children together, and hopefully, we can have a a third one. You know, she's in her mid forties, and so we're just kind of saying, Hey, you know what, if that's what God wants, then that's gonna happen. But I can tell you that, that when you are in a, this, this loving relationship and, and with a happy marriage, that you have this urge to actually just create more children. Right? You really you can feel it.
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  You're just like, I I wanna bring more lives into this world. And it's this beautiful, beautiful act of of I look at it as kind of co creation with God. Right? That's that's what it is. And so but it's I think there's been such a deliberate attack on testosterone, on estrogen, on all these hormones, obviously, because they can sell us the Viagra, they can sell us the drugs that are gonna fix these things for us.
• 1:01:41
  But also, I think that it's been part of just inversing the gender roles and getting women into the workplace, removing the motherly feminine instinct to want to raise and protect children, so that way women are, you know, comfortable putting their kids in daycare from a young age. But also, it's been removing and lowering the testosterone of men. You know, we now know that even wearing synthetic petroleum based boxer shorts lowers your sperm count. Yet, they're still selling these things left, right, and center. When you walk into Target, that's all they're trying to kind of shove into your face.
• 1:02:12
  So I think these are also important. It's amazing to kind of going full circle is that it's like God is he always gives us the way back. It's like he'll never push you down a path where you're just in in a in a world of darkness, you have no idea. There's this way to go back. And it's oftentimes, I think, found in our tradition, in our in our culture, obviously, our faith and everything as well.
• 1:02:34
  But I'm looking at what you're doing here. It's like these herbs are growing and and these tinctures and this knowledge, it's a way to get back to what it really means to be human. And to be human, it's about having strong, confident men that will protect their family, to have nurturing, loving women that will help raise the children. And obviously, there there's, you know, like, I'm very active in raising our kids and changing diapers and everything. So it's not like these strict kind of, like, patriarchal kind of gender roles.
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  It's like, no, you can still come together. But there are the roles that God gave us. And I think it's interesting to look at how, on a very, this kind of physiological level, going back to this brings us closer to, I think, how we were designed.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. And God, He commanded us to procreate, you know, to be fruitful and to multiply. And the thing is with that, there's actually ways, and I encourage people, this is a whole another discussion maybe we can have in the future, but essentially there's ways to prepare the body with herbs for both the man and the woman because you want to have the strongest potential seed and offspring, and you want her to have a pregnancy as smooth and delivery as possible. So there's ways to use herbs in that. So I really encourage people to be more proactive because what God's giving you the opportunity to do is create a gift that you're bringing into this world.
• 1:03:54
  Why not make it the best gift possible? Right?
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  Speaker 1: You we
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  Speaker 2: got to first love ourselves so we can love others, right? And the family is the key. I mean, that's the foundation is the family. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, a quick question for you, and you're not a woman, so hopefully you're not offended by this, but how old are you? Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm fifth I'm 52.
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  Speaker 1: You're 52? Okay. Because you just like, to me, you're just you're you're you're really you're the example. If if you were on on screen and you've got, if you had pimples and you weighed three hundred pounds, I'd be questioning whether these are actually that beneficial. But when I look at you, it's like you're you're a healthy guy.
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  Obviously, it's lifestyle, it's diet, it's everything. But I think you're you're really an example of how you can be in your 50s and just be at your peak health.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. For all of us. So I want to encourage those men that maybe have a little bit of weight to lose or haven't been as motivated, don't give up hope. Start today. Make that change in your life and start going down the right direction.
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  Just choose life. Choose things with purpose to feed that body what it really needs. And you'd be surprised when you feed the body what it needs over time, it's all 12 cylinders are firing in every direction. You have the sound mind, the body's operating the way you want, you recover a lot faster, you get sound sleep, you have great gut microbiome, and so everything is really just working for you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible. Actually, I'm curious because, you know, for my situation, you know, I was always quite heavy as a kid, and I lost, lost weight, but it's always been kind of monkey on my back where, you know, I might get, might have extra ten, fifteen pounds of fat that I just don't like having on my body. Think because I had a lot of metabolic damage from high fructose corn syrup and stuff that, you know, we didn't know was bad as as as, you know, back in the eighties and such. So for someone in my situation, you know, I do work out, you know, probably about three times a week, and I do I I I work out properly. I'm doing, you know, squats and deadlifts and and real kind of heavyweight compounds.
• 1:05:51
  I'm not doing treadmill for an hour. Right? What would you say is is I guess, for a a man or a woman, what is the what is the effective combination of these tinctures that really can help accelerate getting into good shape in combination with a good exercise, system?
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Well, I would recommend, people to consider gut health, number one, really having a good gut health. And then on that gut health, how do we continue to build good flora so our body can function properly? From there, we want to have cellular hydration. And a lot of people are dehydrated.
• 1:06:33
  I drink at least 160 ounces of water a day. I want my cells to be supple so any of the toxins can flow out of the cells itself. So you want to make sure you're cellular hydrated. Make sure you drink plenty of water. Men and women, we we both need water and then, if we exercise first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and you can have a cup of coffee if you want or tea but no calories, water, of course, you're going to burn three times the amount of fat.
• 1:06:57
  So, if you can work out on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, you're going to get a three to one ratio versus if I wait till later at night, it's just going to be a one to one. Well, I want to work smarter, not harder. So I'm motivated to go exercise first thing in the morning cause I know what it's going to do. It's going to help shed those extra pounds that I need to shed. And then of course, I encourage people to eat the proper servings.
• 1:07:21
  So many times we've all had a little bit too much on our plate. Well, what is one serving of cottage cheese? That's a half a cup. It doesn't say half the container, right? So we have to understand how to have the balance, see the servings, have the proper portions, eat the right foods that are going to fuel our body, and it really will take care of itself.
• 1:07:41
  The body will heal itself. And the thing is, into the good gut health itself, once we build that good microbiome, we're going to really operate at a wonderful optimal level. But a lot of people, unfortunately, millions of people have GI issues, digestive issues, gas, bloating, heartburn, IBS, Crohn's, diverticulosis, cramps. So I've got a wonderful formula called the digestive tonic that you can take before meals or after meals or whenever you have that digestive upset to really help you out. This is a wonderful formula.
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  I take it every day not because I necessarily have issues but I already have the good microbiome going from having kimchi and I use Bright Course product by the way and I also eat it but I I I have the kimchi but the other thing that we need for good microbiome is yogurt and specifically meant for your prostate. We need the bacteria from the yogurt for our prostate. So
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: what, kefir? We get kefir from the local milk farms. Is that good as well?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. That's going to work good as well. So what I use to clean out the bad microbiome is the black walnut.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So you can use the black walnut tincture either individually or if you're doing the prostate cleansing, you can use it in conjunction with that. But we want to get rid of the bad microbiome, okay? And then we want to feed ourselves with the good microbiome. So our gut brain has a connection and our gut prostate has a connection too. So if we have a bad gut microbiome, that's going to overflow into the prostate itself, and we're going to have bad microbiome in our prostate.
• 1:09:24
  So what we want to do with the prostate is get rid of all the bad microbiomes, all the garbage itself, and then we feed the prostate with our dairy type. You mentioned the kefir, the yogurt, the raw cheese, the raw milk. We need that bacteria specifically for our prostate. So I say take the kimchi, the Brightcore kimchi, and also incorporate the dairy, and you're really creating a one big party for your gut and your body. It's just friendly microbiomes celebrating together in your body.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's cool that you take, Brightcora. We take that too, and obviously, I've, know, Kim Wright's a good friend of mine, and I have Ron, great product. Actually, I wanted, because you were talking about you a for the ladies, right? I wanna make sure that we cover that because I only have a couple more minutes before, because I've got Doctor.
• 1:10:17
  Artis coming on, he might pop into our Zoom call before we know it. But I wanna make sure we hit that. The, was the deer velvet, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. This is a wonderful formula, again, men or women. But let's go over the benefits, which I do have listed on my website here. So the deer antler velvet itself, women, this is excellent to regulate the hormones within the body. So any hormonal imbalances that you may have, let's say during premenstrum or menopause.
• 1:10:48
  Actually, forty percent of women worldwide already use deer antler velvet for female type related issues. So this is also going to help with cramps, mood swings, fatigue, and hot flashes. That's one thing. For women, it's also going to improve their physical performance, their muscular strength, their endurance, and their recovery. This also helps women with joint and bone health itself.
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  And then finally, it helps with the sexual health, the fertility. It boosts the sex drive and improves the fertility for women itself, and it's also used as anti aging too for women. So this is a wonderful formula for women. I would encourage women to get this formula and it also has many benefits for men, but I already have this particular herb itself in the testosterone, Superior Man testosterone boosting tincture, so they can get it that way.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, so the derailer is also in the testosterone
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  Speaker 2: booster? Yes, yes. So it's good for both men and women, but I have this specifically because I want women to be able to get the benefits too that they're not going take a testosterone boosting tincture. I made this more for them, but obviously men can buy it too, so it's good for both.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I guess we'll look at one more product which I had a question about, which is the facial cream. So tell us about this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so actually this cream itself and wonderful herbs, I grow a lot of these herbs, and this is just a skin cream that we're going to put on. Let's say it's wintertime and our skin is chapped, we can put it on. If we have sunburn in the summertime, we can put it on. If we have dry skin, we can put it on. And so this is an anti aging skin cream.
• 1:12:28
  I only make it seasonally, Seth, because there's no preservatives in my product. It's all organic ingredients. If I start to send this out when it gets warmer out, melts. So I sell this really kind of seasonally, fall, winter, and then I kind of cut it off usually this month, but it's a wonderful product. I've had people come back to me saying, you know, I can feel this on my skin, my skin is so soft and shiny, and it really works wonderful.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, my wife uses, a lot of DMSO, skin creams and everything. But this is good. What is the main carrier in this one? What kind of is it, is it tallow or is it, what's the main kind of, I guess, yeah, moisture, I guess you call it a carrier, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have the olive oil, and then the what solidifies that is beeswax and just having the right ratio of beeswax to the ounces of the formulation itself. How hard you want it to be or how soft you want it to be. That's really just the ratio of the beeswax itself.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Well, good. Well, unfortunately, we had to we had to hop off.
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  I feel like I I could just keep talking to you. But your your website, it's our father'sherbsherbs, right, our father'sherbs.com. We've got I think if you do slash Seth, it preloads in, there or was it slash m I a, I think?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The promo code is Man in America 10 for 10% off for all all of the audience.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yep. So probably
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  Speaker 2: I'll There's put that in the wonderful products there. I would love to come back on again, stuff, talk more about this and all kinds of other wonderful topics, and I really appreciate you having me on today.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I yeah, I would I would look forward to that. Yeah, I look forward to that, and, yeah, I'm glad that we were to get this conversation. There's a little bit of scheduling, kind of, you know, back and forth, and we have a lot going on, but I really appreciate your patience with me. And, it's been great, great talking to you. And, I also, most importantly, I really enjoy meeting people that have good beards.
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  And so, that's probably one of the most important things to come out of this experience for me is just that, that kind of, that that male beard bonding that always happens.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. Definitely. I I I don't know. Some men don't want it, but I I mean, I really enjoy the beard. No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's just I don't know. Kinda like, why would God put beard on my face? Right? Like It's
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  Speaker 2: of It's worth being a man.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It's like, I I feel like that it's like the maybe it's like, I feel like it enhances testosterone. It's good for the winter. It's, you know, it's it's good, right? So again, it's kind of going back to how God made things and so that's, yeah, that's why I haven't shaved since I think I was three years old, was the last time I shaved, so.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Distinction between the women too, and I think the women really appreciate a nice beard.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: They do, they do. Actually, yeah, my wife loves it, and my little kids, my little two year old, especially, it's this grab handle for her, she wants my attention. She'll just gank it down to get me to look at her. Yeah. So okay.
• 1:15:48
  Well, Andrew, it was, it was such a pleasure talking with you, and I look forward to doing this again. And I encourage people again to check out your website. You know, both buy the fish and learn how to fish. Right? So here's a great place.
• 1:16:00
  Get the tinctures from the master who's learned how to to really perfect it. But I also encourage people to learn this on their own. Start growing these plants, even they're easy things to grow indoors. If you live in an apartment, you get a little, you know, kind of countertop growing situation set up, and just start learning. Because these are these are important old world skills, which I think that will be very, very important in the the coming years.
• 1:16:25
  So, yeah, thank you for what you're doing. And maybe maybe in the future, can set some sort of a, like, kind of masterclass over on the ARC. We have the ability to do that where we can get in and get some real kind of solid educational stuff put together. I'd love to talk to you more about that in the future.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. We could look at topic based, what we want to go over and just kind of break down and drill down on a subject and keep building on that and just take many subjects. There's a lot for us to learn. And so, I'd Perfect. Love to do
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Well, Andrew, thank you again. It's been really nice speaking with you.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise. Thank you, Seth. God bless you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. Take care.
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  Speaker 2: Take care. Bye bye.