Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / Below Deck Down Under Recap "Consent Education Needs to Happen in Our Schools. Period. Dot."

Transcript

Below Deck Down Under Recap "Consent Education Needs to Happen in Our Schools. Period. Dot." · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

0:05
Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Indeed,
0:20
welcome, Welcome, It is Tuesday. It's Below Deck down Under, Real
0:25
dark times. We really are going to get into it, so stay tuned
0:30
in moments will deep dive right into that. Angela Quintana is here. Hi
0:35
An, Hi, Darling, Hello, Darling, Hello, darlings. Listen.
0:40
We are doing Below Deck down Under today. Tomorrow I'll be doing Real
0:44
Housewives of New York and Crappy Wake Drilling. So if you want to hear
0:48
those recaps and more, including the Bachelorette, which will be on my Patreon,
0:53
you must subscribe to my Patreon. Darlings, what are you waiting for?
0:57
It is patreon dot com backslash. I'm a Darling. Also, Angela
1:02
and I have been recapping Project Runway. A lot of people, Angela have
1:06
messaged me saying like, thank you for getting me back into it because it's
1:08
been some great season with all stars. It has, and we've just been
1:12
having a blast doing it. And all of these shows are really ramping up.
1:17
So like Bachelorette, you know, we're in fantasy suites. That was
1:21
you know, last night, So Deanna Chang and I are going to be
1:25
recapping that that will come out later today and then also later on this week
1:30
Orange County. So again, get to my Patreon subscribe, darlings, and
1:37
we do have a little dish before we get into our below deck sailing.
1:42
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm so used to saying sailing out with you below.
1:47
Thank you, darling, thank you. But we have some dish,
1:49
so let's get straight up into it. Okay, I'm excited, rights are
1:55
you excited? Okay? Well, first of all, well this one,
1:57
you know, I draw, I'm darling, you know, crosses over into
2:00
the cult realm occasionally, as you know, so as as it should,
2:07
thank you, because I mean, what other major drama is there other than
2:10
like a cult. I mean, for a while, there was an embarrassment
2:15
of riches. Let's be honest, and to think that there's still cult news
2:21
is disturbing for our world in general. That they just can't continue and they're
2:24
not going to stop speaking of cults. Join me over at patreon dot com
2:30
backslash drama, darling. We have our own little cult over there, a
2:35
harmless, harmless, harmless cult. We just want to society and the world,
2:40
and then we are going to brand you, of course with a gorgeous
2:45
darling. But it's like startistic. Yeah, it's artistic, it's arteasonal y,
2:51
you know what I mean, it's organic. Anyway, Leah Remedy is
2:54
filing a lawsuit against Church of Scientology and it's leader, David Misscavill psychological torture
3:00
and harassment. So holler see that, Holler at your girl. I don't
3:06
know. I have nothing to do with the lawsuit. I'm not a scientologist,
3:07
but I still want to be hollered at by Lea Remany. Yes,
3:10
because I'm sure you watched that whole documentary series, right, Oh, yes,
3:15
kind of. And I don't know, I don't. I don't think
3:19
it's just because we live where it's where it all takes place, at every
3:23
corner, at every corner, But it is. It's just I watch anything,
3:30
I can read, anything I can about like scientologists and their experiences.
3:39
It's just fascinating to yes, it really really is, and to think it's
3:44
still I mean, it looks like it's thriving. I don't know what's happening
3:49
on the inside. I'm sure it went through a deficit because of what's happening,
3:53
But to look at the property. You know, if you just if
3:55
you're just looking at real estate, it's like it's not going away, which
4:00
is terrifying, right, And it's because I feel it's because they are allowed
4:05
that, like the chat status, so they just have millions and millions and
4:11
millions that they can just buy properties. Yeah, to make it look like
4:15
they're thriving. Yeah, it's and there's it's probably just if you were to
4:20
walk in the door, it's just crickets, you know, yes, yes,
4:25
crickets and cults, you know, and cults, but there is no
4:28
cult. It's it's like and then anything that happens with like oh hi,
4:34
and hey, here comes a little sweetie. Okay, let me plause.
4:40
Okay, baby daughter is in the background. Here she's putting on her headphones.
4:44
Okay, so gorgeous, Tiara, I might add, oh yes,
4:46
yes, Indie, thank you. Okay, so yes. So I'm just
4:50
so fascinated with scientology that I will even like like the whole Danny Masterson try
4:58
like totally followed that and like because it's ridiculous what they do not only to
5:06
members and then ex members, but then the fallout from those ex members and
5:12
members when they do stuff like this, like, I'm sure these poor women
5:16
that were assaulted by him have been harassed, stalked, docked, Like I'm
5:24
sure they where his wife, David, Misscavage's wife. Yeah, that's one
5:30
of the big things. Do we do you think she's alive? I don't
5:34
think so. I don't know. I mean he disappears. And that's what
5:38
Leo Remedy was like, where is she right? And that's when it all
5:42
started to like click for her that she was like, oh, why are
5:46
they treating me like this when I just asked where my friend was? Right?
5:53
It's good that she's content consistently bringing this to the post, Yeah,
5:57
because we need to have eyes on her at all times. Yeah, she's
6:00
no bs. I like her. She makes me laugh. What's working?
6:04
It's not? Yeah? Oh no, Well anyway, happy uh happy that
6:15
lee Remedy is doing this. Let's move on to other news. You know,
6:18
Whitney Rose from Salt Lake City basically confirmed in her instance story that The
6:23
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is returning on Tuesday, September fourth. She
6:27
was just basically in her car and she's like, it's just over working on
6:31
Wild Best Spitty and it's looking like we're coming back to Stay Sittender for fifth
6:40
justin less to step, you know what I mean, like just wish she
6:44
not supposed to say anything. Probably it seems like that, you know,
6:47
basically, I know, Queens of Bravo on Instagram took that and ran with
6:51
it and was like, looks like you know, but I mean it seems
6:55
like they should have they should be speaking out about it, announcing it around
7:00
the corner, right around the corner. So I'm sure we'll be getting a
7:03
trailer soon, which is weird. That would that would I would think so
7:08
because I feel like they we see trailers for established shows, they start teasing
7:15
those like oh yeah they can you know what I mean, Like they're ready
7:17
for it, And especially for Salt Lake, people are like dying to know
7:23
what's going on there. I know. I'm I wonder if it's like a
7:27
Snoozefest season, because you know how you typically hear stuff as their folks.
7:31
Yeah, it's been pretty sleepy. It's pretty been pretty sleepy. Hello.
7:36
But also I feel like, especially when they're Snoozefest, they like they're like,
7:42
uh god, we got to get ahead of this, Like let's just
7:45
like boost it up and make it, make this look like it's going to
7:48
be an exciting season. Let's start right now. Let's you know what I
7:51
mean. Right well, the thing that I do like about this is that
7:56
we really haven't seen any spoilers for what's going on in the season. And
7:59
that's just one of those things where we always get too many of them.
8:01
I mean, every second we're getting like a Vanner Pump Rules, you know,
8:05
update, and it's it's annoying. Can it's not sure? I tried
8:11
to Nina. It's vague, it's too much, But can we please stop
8:20
spoiling shows in the fucking headlines? Oh my god, I've had enough.
8:26
I've had enough. I And so, yeah, you're right, Like I
8:30
do appreciate that there's not a lot of anything out about the season, and
8:35
here I am complaining, and here I am like, well, it's probably
8:39
a sleepy hollow, you know, I mean, talk about a fan you
8:43
can't be you. Yeah, but I agree, it's stop spoiling things for
8:50
us people. We just like to watch it and be surprised as it comes.
8:54
As it comes. It's very rare that that ever happens. So when
8:56
it happens, let it be now also happening in September is Southern Charm.
9:01
Southern Charm is coming back. I saw that trailer Baby September fourteenth, and
9:07
wow, what an intense trailer. What did you think, Angela, Because
9:11
I know you're a big Southern Charm fan. Correct I am. I am
9:15
a big Southern Charm fan. I am very interested to see what really happened
9:22
with Taylor Anne Green and Austin Not. I mean, obviously, I think
9:31
good for her. I think she can do better than Austin. I don't
9:33
get I don't get the attraction with him. Is it. He's just tall,
9:39
There's no personality, there's he's such a he's such like a dummy,
9:46
like he can't get out of his own way. He's like it's a typical
9:50
Southern charmer, dude. I don't get it. Yeah, but I kind
9:58
of love it, just because we've seen she being such a pig for so
10:03
long. I know the fact that she and Austin are together after all that,
10:07
Wow that was pretty shocks, Like are they together? Well, I
10:15
think they probably had some sort of hook up or some kind of kiss.
10:18
But you know, when they were filming together during that time, when shep
10:22
wasn't treating Taylor right. And Austin and Austin and Taylor went shoe shopping,
10:28
remember that, Yes, and he was like crying to her. Oh my
10:31
god. I was like, why don't you two just get together? You
10:33
know, I know, I mean it was just sometimes they are so ridiculous.
10:41
So I'm curious to see what's going to happen between the two because when
10:46
they were I was like, get together. This is I mean, even
10:48
shep can't stand in the way of this match, I know. But Austin
10:52
won't be able to stand. He won't be able to stay there. He
10:56
No. I feel like he and Shut are the types of guys that are
11:03
always like, what's new, what's shiny, what's next? I'm lately playing
11:09
with this toy. What's what's the next toy that I can play with?
11:13
Yeah, they're the Craig is the only one to come out of Southern Charm
11:16
that has any interest in a relationship. What's you know? It is?
11:20
Who? What a thought Craig kind of or Craig after working at that bourbon
11:26
company for like a month, was like, I think I'm gonna be promoted
11:30
to president. Like well the trailer, Taylor trailer looks really intense and heartbreaking
11:43
too, because you know there's a do yes her brother and uh, it's
11:48
just it's looking like it's going to be really wild. It doesn't look like
11:52
Catherine Dennis is involved. She's not in the cast photo. I thought she
11:58
was kind of like go after last year because there was so many times where
12:03
she just didn't show up for filming and it was like, oh, it's
12:07
probably better for her to take a break off. And also she has recently
12:11
posted, you know, some positive things about her growth, so we'll see
12:16
also those lawsuits, you know, the custody things and all that, all
12:20
this stuff going on with her kids and Thomas Ravenel and I know, so
12:22
it's that's a whole other show. And yeah, really okay. Well,
12:33
also another show that's coming out which I was excited to hear about is Traders
12:37
Australia. Now I don't know, are we going to be able to see
12:41
this because I saw hands Okay, we will, like, yes we are.
12:46
I know it's on the There was a Australian season on Hulu. Did
12:56
you watch one? I didn't watch. We watched the UK. You watched
12:58
the UK? I remember watched the American one. Okay, it's American one.
13:03
I saw. I didn't see UK love the K Chastain version because it's
13:07
just the K Chastain version. To me, it was. I loved her
13:13
so much by the end where she was just like I don't care, you're
13:16
not listening to me, like throwing away their like rewards or she was like
13:22
kick me off please, you know. And so it was. And the
13:26
UK version was also like they had they had they were in the same castle,
13:31
and they had they had. Some of the challenges were the exact same,
13:39
but they did something in the UK version that they did not do in
13:45
the US version, Like really at the beginning, like there were a couple
13:48
of things that we were like, oh did not see coming. Was great
13:56
television like it. I would suggest maybe watching that the UK version as well,
14:03
because okay, it was. It was really good. Oh I'm very
14:07
excited. Well they're not going to be in the same castle this time.
14:11
Oh Australia. Yeah, so oh, I forget. I forgot to mention
14:16
that there are three like Southern charm new dudes. It's like Rod and so
14:24
we have you know, to discuss that at some point, you know,
14:26
well, I mean we don't need to discuss it until we watch it.
14:28
But I just wanted to get you heads up that's happening. It's exciting anyway.
14:33
Well, I think that we really need to get into the recap because
14:39
you know what's stopping us. But duh. Baby daughter is in the background,
14:43
she has her headphones on. I'm single parenting it as my husband is
14:48
working, you know, at a convention and doing great. I could not
14:52
find a babysitter to save my life today. So here I am back to
14:56
back with podcasts and meeting and I've got this little sweetie on her iPad.
15:03
Hi, honey, Oh do you hear me talking about you? Oh?
15:07
You're cute, fie? Can you turn up your volume a little so you
15:11
don't hear me talking so much? Okay, good, because I want to
15:16
make sure you don't hear everything I say. All right, good, okay
15:20
because something else. So this is an episode that you know, obviously,
15:28
if you've seen it, you know we're going to be getting into but trigger
15:31
warning for essays, and I just couldn't. I honestly didn't see this coming.
15:39
Any of the trailers are promo promos as I call them promos. Did
15:45
not you know, give us a heads up that it was going to be
15:48
this way this season and get so dark and disturbing, and you know,
15:52
without further ado, uh, the two people who were canned. I completely
15:58
agree obviously, I'm sure or we all do, one hundred percent. And
16:03
I like that Jason runs a very tight ship when it comes to not putting
16:07
up with anything when it comes to boundaries and consent. Yeah, so I
16:15
mean, my god, yeah, this was the fact that it happened.
16:18
Also, you know, we see them, we see these fine lines,
16:22
we see these gray these gray lines, these gray areas on blow deck,
16:27
especially because you're working together, you're sleeping in cabins together, you're in and
16:33
out of each other's cabins, and for the most part, from what we've
16:37
seen, it's typically a consensual situation. And yet there have been some moments.
16:45
I can't really pinpoint those exact moments, but I know that there have
16:48
been moments that have been very uncomfortable at times, but they've never gotten to
16:52
this level. Now. I think the I think the the one that I
16:59
remember most. Yeah, I think his name was Pete and Captain sand It
17:07
was when Malia was Boson and Captain Sandy and I think Bugsy was also there
17:15
and just the things that he was. He would call everybody like all right,
17:18
sweetheart, all right, oh right, darling, and it was it
17:22
wasn't like that was the worst. Yeah, that was that was maybe the
17:26
worst that we had seen where they had to be like, it's just kind
17:29
of like degrading and uncomfortable and like, don't to do that, and so
17:33
Captain Sandy had to talk with him and he handled it well, but they
17:37
kind of pretty much edited him out of the rest of this st That's right,
17:41
That's right. That was the problematic season where they edited h I feel
17:45
like that that was like the closest we've come to anything remotely. It's wild
17:53
that like this, I mean because he remained on charter. Yeah, so
17:57
they edited him out, but like with this situation, they didn't edit anything,
18:03
and they let us see it all, including the producers engaging with protecting
18:10
Well, this is wild, especially on the heels of this lawsuit against I
18:15
was NBC and Bravo right the same thing. I was thinking the same thing.
18:19
I also wonder, you know, I don't know if they went back
18:22
in and edited having allowing us to see the producers get involved and protect because
18:29
I wonder this is a perfect example of how they they do have boundaries where
18:33
they are watching and they don't let certain things happen where they where they are
18:37
protecting their crew, which which yeah, and I don't know if that's the
18:42
case everywhere, but at least we got to see an example of them stepping
18:48
in and not putting up with any of it. The slamming of the door,
18:52
Luke slamming the door, and I felt, I'm sure all of us
18:56
had a visceral reaction to feeling protective and just like holding that door. I
19:02
was like, oh my god, you got to bust that door. You
19:03
got to put that door down. He's about to you know, the aggression,
19:07
the violence of him shutting the door, it was. It was so
19:12
aggressive to watch. It was so uncomfortable, and he and knowing like he
19:17
was already amped up because of what he and Laura were up to. So
19:21
it was just like all so gross and to your point of you saying,
19:27
like you wonder if they edited it, edited it in light of the lawsuit
19:33
to show us, to show us, I don't, I don't. I
19:37
don't see how they could have re edited because it was just like what would
19:42
it have been Yeah, you're right, I know what I mean, Yeah,
19:47
we wouldn't have seen anything really like it was just or yeah, or
19:52
they wouldn't have shown any of that, right, and then but that's the
19:56
whole storyline because then exactly so we would have missed and all the up and
20:00
he left. Yeah, right, So, I mean I appreciated seeing that
20:07
to be like no, no, no, no, get out, get
20:07
out. But even before any of that happened, Asha clocked it when they
20:14
were on the night out where she was like, you need to come with
20:18
me, and your heart at least my heart just broke for her because I'm
20:23
sure with her with what happened to her, she was extremely, extremely triggered
20:30
when she saw that. And I mean I was kind of too. It's
20:37
just like, yeah, what the fuck, dude, Like what are you
20:41
doing? Well? What would have happened? And I think we all know,
20:45
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that there's a person who could
20:48
have seen that scene and not thought something the worst would have happened. Right,
20:52
There's nothing in between the fact that he was completely naked, the fact
20:57
that he was already climbing on top of her, the fact that he was
21:03
shutting the door. He wasn't going to stop being really aggressive and he was
21:07
obviously this is the question I have. Was he blackout drunk? It seemed
21:11
like he was it. Did it did? Like his nuh yeah, And
21:17
that's what's terrifying. Yeah, and so and so was she. And you
21:21
know that night when she was she was conscious, No, you know that
21:27
night that she went downstairs and seeing Ramen with Harry, she seemed blackout drunk
21:33
to me too. And when she leaned up and he said that thing to
21:36
her where he was like, you know, I believe in like, you
21:42
know, friendship and a connection and a personality. And she's like, that's
21:48
the way I would do it too, And he's like, I mean we
21:51
could just be friends or for the next five weeks, or we could have
21:55
a connection. And he's looking at her and her eyes are gone. She's
22:00
like, well I and then he leans in for a kiss. And see
22:03
that to me felt really gross, Yeah, because I was like, she
22:08
looks like no, So I thought that was really weird're right, you're right.
22:15
And I didn't even I I said something. I was like, she's
22:19
so wasted and that's the only reason she's kissing him. Right now, Like
22:22
she's not Jack Gary, She's like so drunk, she's just gonna kiss this
22:26
dude. But I didn't even think about it that way, which is so
22:30
messed up. You're right, that was totally taking advantage of a completely not
22:37
coherent girl. And how in the question is how drunk was he because if
22:41
you know, the only excuse would be is if he was just as drunk,
22:45
right, you know, because the thing, Yeah, but the way
22:48
he looked, it didn't look like he was as far gone as she was,
22:51
and that was I don't think so. But he didn't take it to
22:52
the next level. I mean he did. He he let her lean in,
22:57
he you know, but it did seem weird. It's it felt very
23:02
uncomfortable. Totally did, and I didn't even think about that. But also
23:07
I feel like he's he wants to read into her behavior because he wants her
23:14
to like him so much, because he likes her so much, and I
23:18
don't think I don't think she does. No, No, she doesn't.
23:22
I mean he's there. She's so grossed out by by Luke at this point
23:29
because he keeps bouncing back and forth between her and Laura, and now she
23:34
sees who he really is. So she's like, oh, it grosses me
23:37
out. Well, moving on, I mean would he would he like tried
23:41
to push her head in the cake, like was super aggressive, and then
23:45
tried to like miss her afterwards, and like he's just oh. Also,
23:49
the first kiss that they had when they were out at the club, he
23:53
was like, close your eyes and then he did that and there's no and
23:56
then we remember the major problem with that, there was no consent there,
24:00
right, And then she was like and then he was like she liked it
24:04
so just so fucking gross and I'm so glad that he was fired. And
24:12
can we say that also Laura was just as bad watching her continually whoa assault,
24:22
Like if the if the Wolves were reversed and it was a guy doing
24:26
to a girl what Laura was doing to Adam, Like you could tell she
24:30
was grabbing him underneath the table. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa
24:33
whoa, Like if a guy was doing that to a girl, And it
24:37
was so uncomfortable and he kept like how many times did we hear Adam say
24:41
no? And then she kept going after him and it was just like and
24:45
then the fact, I mean, this is just so gross to me because
24:51
I don't know if you remember, I didn't. I didn't watch soap operas
24:53
when I was younger, but my aunt no I did. But Laura,
24:59
how I know? Is that irony or is that like, what a coincidence?
25:03
What is that? It's messed up? No, I don't know,
25:06
but I agree with you. It is weird, uh, messed up,
25:11
messed up that. Like writers were like, oh, I have an idea
25:14
for a storyline. Why don't we have Luke rape Laura and then she'll fall
25:19
in love with him and they get married. You can do it. Yes,
25:23
Yes, that was Luke and Laura's storyline. He sexually assaulted her,
25:30
he raped her, and then they made her fall in love with him and
25:33
marry him. You've got to be kidding me. No. And it was
25:37
supposed to be seen as, oh it it ended up romantic and oh my
25:41
god, it's so in love. I thought, whoa, whoa, whoa.
25:45
No, that was the storyline. Baby, Oh my gosh, I'm
25:51
I'm at a loss for words. Yeah, okay, wow yeah. And
25:56
then so I was like, yep, today I'm saying to Dan, I'm
26:00
like, oh my god, their names are Luke and Laura. He's like
26:03
I have no idea. I just thought, oh, the drama between the
26:07
two of them and then these two I just thought, oh that's the man.
26:10
That's weird. Okay, well that shines new light. I'm sure all
26:14
the darlings are going, yeah, they knew that, which is weird.
26:18
And for her to be like, Luke's gone, oh that was the weirdest.
26:23
Yeah, so she didn't know and then they finally see that's the thing.
26:29
Okay, So she didn't know what was going on, so finally okay,
26:32
it is bliss. But then she really quick though. It was kind
26:34
of funny and so it was made so obvious how much Asha hates Laura because
26:42
she was like they you know, everyone's like, where's Luke? What's going
26:45
on? And it's kind of like the music is very tense, and like
26:51
no one's really sure what's going on with Luke. Just a couple of people
26:53
know. And then it's just like can we have ani like an interior career
26:57
meeting? And they're talking and she's like, Okay, why don't you go
27:00
blah blah blah do this blah blah blah, And Marco was like, so
27:04
what happened? And she was like, Okay, so and then she looked
27:10
at Laura. I was like, actually, can you do want to go
27:11
get started on rooms? Right? So Laura goes. Laura goes to start
27:17
on the rooms, and then she's like, let's go, let's go to
27:22
we'll get all the other girl out. But then but then Serena's like,
27:26
what's going on? She's like, why don't you come with us? Right,
27:30
So they're all talking and Laura's like cleaning. So, yeah, she
27:36
had no idea what was going on. I know she had no idea what's
27:41
going on. But I also loved the little discussion they had in the room.
27:48
I thought that was really important because it really put a spotlight on how
27:52
women feel in this situation. You immediately feel guilty. You immediately felt like
27:56
you did something wrong. You're embarrassed. You're embarrassed, you feel stupid.
28:00
You got too drunk. It was your fault. You could see it all
28:03
over her face. She was like, well, if I wouldn't have done
28:07
that, then this wouldn't have happened. No. No, you were in
28:10
your room with the door shut. Yes, you were totally unconscious. Viola.
28:17
It's called a violation. I just I'm so disgusted by the fact that
28:22
you know, well later on when Laura was like, oh, no,
28:26
he's just joking, like he wouldn't rape you, and it's like you're you
28:30
have no idea, and then her saying like I should have kept him happy.
28:33
Every single thing she said couldn't have been more wrong, or I'm just
28:38
like where, well, it actually made me concern for her childhood and her
28:45
upbringing, you know what I mean? That was what stood out to me.
28:48
Well, now baby daughters out of the room. So we were talking
28:55
about how, yeah, you're right because I you know, with having a
29:03
niece and a nephew and with age and wisdom. I also was like,
29:08
what happened to her? Where this is her mindset right? Right? That
29:15
was very concerning and very sad to see. Yeah, it was. It
29:18
was just so messed up on so many levels. And I was so appreciative
29:25
of the fact that Zorena was because I say this all the time, like
29:30
I should be able anybody, women, men, anybody should be able to
29:37
walk down the street but naked, and people should be able to control themselves
29:45
and not just It's so like in a history with like school dress codes and
29:53
girls are dressing too enticing for the males. How about instead of put the
30:00
onus on the girls to dress more modest, put the onus on the men.
30:04
The teachers that are adult men, and these boys that are learning to
30:10
be men, maybe put the onus on them to control themselves. Well,
30:15
I think the biggest issue in our society is that we don't have that type
30:18
of learning in our educational systems. There is no sex. Sex ed doesn't
30:25
take place until high school. You there should be a consensual program beginning in
30:34
kindergarten where you're learning the basics about your body and consent, the simplicities of
30:42
this is my body, this is my choice. There's nothing that if you
30:45
know, if someone wants a hug, you have to ask very simple brass
30:51
tacks. It's on the parents to do that, and it's it's you know,
30:55
not all parents are going to do that. You know. One of
30:57
the things that I've done with my daughter is a gotten books on you know,
31:02
consenting, books on your body, things like that, and it's it's
31:07
tough to do, and it's it's sad to do. In your head,
31:10
you're like, it's sad that I have to do this because it's a conversation
31:14
where you're it's like you don't really want to make them aware that anyone would
31:18
want to ever hurt them in that way, because you don't want to bring
31:21
it into their head like should I be scared of someone hurting my body?
31:26
Like that's the other thing is like you you would rather them to not to
31:30
be free and to not have to worry about those things. So it's a
31:32
very delicate balance of making sure they feel they feel comfortable and yet not in
31:37
fear of other people. And yet the reality of our situation of is sexual
31:44
abuse takes place in it most of the time. The statistics say within the
31:49
home, within the family, within the people that you know. And so
31:52
it's so imperative for us as parents to educate our children. And yet in
31:57
homes where people are busy, or it's a one parent home, or they're
32:01
just not aware or they were raised in a different way, our education system
32:07
needs to step up to provide that kind of structure because a lot of the
32:12
times these things are happening in those structures churches, schools, you know,
32:17
sports, anything, and for them to not have education to begin with is
32:22
a huge fault of this system. I'm shocked that we don't have it.
32:29
I'm shocked that we don't have it because it's not an elementary school. They're
32:32
not teaching it. You know. What's concerning to me is that we're missing,
32:39
we're dropping the ball as a society in the United States of America.
32:44
The fact that our eyes are set on so many other different things this in
32:49
the world, I mean, in our country, and yet the biggest thing
32:53
that we can do to help our society is to protect our children. And
32:59
we don't have those structures in place to do that. And how are we
33:02
supposed to have a healthy society if we can't protect our kids. So and
33:07
I don't you know. And this isn't just because Laura is like from another
33:10
country, it's just from Leffia. It's not because it's a lot via thing.
33:14
This could have happened from you know, Jill from Missouri. This could
33:17
have happened from Susie from New Zealand, from Ben from down Under, like
33:23
it can happen to anyone in this way of thinking. It's just wild that
33:28
there were two people on this boat at the same time that are so unclear
33:32
of boundaries and sexual assault and what that means, and they're on a public
33:38
platform and they're on reality television. You know. Again, this mirroring the
33:44
fact that this lawsuit is going on right now is huge because in many ways
33:50
proves the point of this lawsuit, for one, but it also proves on
33:54
the flip side that whatever the production company did, they did it the right
34:00
way. They took care of business. Captain Jason as a captain of the
34:06
boat and Asha as chiefs do did all the right things. Not only did
34:10
they not put up with it for a second, they also were protective of
34:16
Margo and with Laura's actions and got rid of her too. And just the
34:22
fact that Laura was able to do well, not all her damage because she
34:29
was crossing boundaries ridiculously with Adam for so long, but the fact that she
34:37
did so much damage with Margo. After Captain Jason specifically had that conversation about
34:45
respect and boundaries and safe, feeling safe, it was it was mine though,
34:52
it was it was mind boggling. She just doesn't get it at all.
34:59
Right. I loved what Jason said, Our cabin is our safety zone,
35:02
that door is our boundary. To walk into someone else's room without consent,
35:07
indecent is my limit. And then when they showed Laura's face was just
35:13
blank because I was like, I wonder if this is gonna even clock with
35:15
her, because she was like that with Luke too, and she was like,
35:20
can you help me find my phone? And then she'd like so gross
35:23
and creepy and like lured him into her. It was just yeah, And
35:27
how about that massage with Adam. You know, that was strange that he
35:32
okayed that. I thought that was weird that he was like Okay. I'm
35:37
like, oh, that's just I think, very stupid. But also I
35:40
feel like, because I don't know, like I've had guys that would just
35:46
like leave me, just like wouldn't get the hint. So it was like,
35:51
finally you gave him an inch so they would shut the fuck up and
35:53
just leave you alone. And I wonder if that wasn't at all, but
36:00
for for neither of them, I like for Luke or for Laura, for
36:05
neither of them to kind of like they were both very dismissive of the producers,
36:09
being like you have to get out of here. Yeah, like she
36:12
said no, she said no. That was like that gave me the chills.
36:17
You know. It was so like blessed those producers and the I know.
36:22
And this was only the second and third time I think that we've ever
36:24
seen producers step in on below below deck and the first was when Ashton,
36:32
right Ashton, when he got caught in the in the rope, your brain
36:39
really is it's a Wikipedia for below deck knowledge. How do you forget a
36:47
decky almost drowning? I don't. I wouldn't remember. It would have taken
36:54
me a while to come up with Ashton. That wasn't ye, I wasn't
37:00
quite sure, but then it was like, oh no, it was Ashton,
37:01
but yeah, that was that was. This was only like the second
37:04
and third time in the same episode that producers had to step in and stop
37:09
and stop Laura. That was I can only imagine that Adam said yes to
37:15
that because he was so drunk, but he was fine by saying no,
37:19
no, no, no no, and the jacuzzie and she's like, I
37:21
give massage, nothing else, and I'm like you was like, not sexual,
37:24
nothing's going to happen, And I'm like, what He's just he was
37:28
naive and and silly even I know that, I like, what do you
37:30
say? Are you doing? Come on? But then again, you know,
37:36
the rule goes both ways. Just because he said, yes, do
37:37
a massage doesn't mean that he can get right sextually assaulted, so exactly like
37:45
and I loved that. Like you said, Jason was like immediately no,
37:50
by you're done, and Laura was like, he should have got warning.
37:54
I know, are what? So like, God, she just doesn't get
38:01
it. And I really really hope she heals from what I do too,
38:07
and I happen to her. Yea. I also wonder, you know,
38:12
at this point with Margot, thank God that Marco's okay and nothing happened.
38:17
But I would imagine that it would be very helpful for some sort of therapists
38:22
to be tendered in to that boat and just have us sit down and talk
38:27
and just you know, with everybody okay, but you know what, you
38:30
know, I'd like to talk to you about the thing with below deck,
38:32
which is that just across the board. You know, from the very get
38:36
go, the reason why we tune in is this voyeuristic appeal to watching people
38:44
live their lives. There are cameras in their rooms, they're having sex with
38:47
each other, they're hooking up, they're in and out of each other's rooms.
38:50
It's this blatant, you know, this spring break attitude while you're working
38:55
at the same time, and that's why we like it so and then you
39:00
have these crew members who are you know, heavily under the under pressure to
39:06
perform in certain situations for the guests in sexual ways and be flirty and teasing
39:14
with their bodies and and so you've got this whole realm of the below deck
39:21
charters where that's what guests expect, you know, some more than others,
39:25
not this charter. But yeah, but when they're told, you know,
39:30
they're told, like, we never say no. We can never say no
39:32
anything any request. We can never say no, and that's dirty dance this
39:38
guest and like do this stuff. So where I mean, where does the
39:43
line start, Where does it end? Where's the middle. It's like it's
39:46
so tricky serving because that's why it attracts the industry attracts these types of people
39:52
who really don't have boundaries, who are okay with doing these things, and
39:55
who want to have one night stands. They don't want, you know,
39:59
relationship. They all say it. So you know, it's hard to move
40:04
forward, you know, with a below deck situation because you're never going to
40:07
have a perfect situation. And if you do it probably will be a very
40:12
boring season. And I don't mean that because I want to see darkness and
40:15
essay, it's just that, you know, but you want to have people
40:20
be educated enough to know about consent and to know like, yes, let's
40:24
also maybe there should be some sort of drink limit. Who's going to monitor
40:29
that? I don't know, because it depends on like when you get blackout
40:32
drunk like that. You know, first, I can't believe people haven't fallen
40:37
overboard at this point, but the fact that this is where we are it
40:42
doesn't necessarily surprise me. But it is shocking in this day and age when
40:45
these people are you know, they're young, they're not my generation, so
40:51
my generation I can expect this to happen. You know, I'm sure that
40:54
you feel the same way. I mean, how many times, I mean,
40:58
it's sad to say. It's sad to say. I think a lot
41:00
of people listening have been in a million situations. Yeah. I was in
41:05
a situation with me and my cousin kind of similar to what happened with Margo,
41:08
where we were sleeping on we were like at this house party, we
41:12
were sleeping on couches like across from each other, and I woke up because
41:16
my cousin was pulling this guy off from on top of me, and I
41:22
remember, oh god, I was like trying to like fight him off.
41:24
He wasn't naked, but I was like trying to fight him off, and
41:28
I just remember being like, oh my god, he's so strong, and
41:30
it was like he wasn't like super big or anything, but it was like,
41:35
yeah, like, yeah, we've like it's all happened. And I
41:37
don't know what would have happened if my cousin hadn't been there to be like,
41:40
get the fuck off er and beat the shit out of him. But
41:45
that's terrifying. Angela, Yeah, that's absolutely terrifying. And even in a
41:50
situation like that where you may not even know the person, you've also got
41:53
the flip side where in this situation you do know the person. And I've
41:58
been in that situation where you feel like, Okay, now we've gotten to
42:01
this point. Now this person is expects this from me, right because now
42:06
I've you know, we've been hanging out all night or you know, we've
42:09
been talking, and now they think that that I owe, that they deserve
42:15
something from me, and the pressure of that it's so gross, and I
42:21
know it really is date rape. You know. I look back and I'm
42:23
like, well, that was date rapie. I didn't really want to do
42:28
that, but I felt obligated to or you know, And this is what
42:34
I want for the future of our kids is to never have that type of
42:39
feeling. And you know, when you look at Margo, and we kind
42:42
of joked about this when we saw her how she handled that kiss situation,
42:47
and we're like, oh my god, she's so right. So Midwest,
42:51
and I know it's not just Midwest, but it's an exaggerated you know.
42:57
I think when you're looking at the coastal cities, know they're just they're not
43:01
as bad. You know, when you're going to mid West territory, middle
43:05
of the country, you are a lot more appeasing because of the culture.
43:08
And I know that that is a grand assumption and a grand statement to make
43:15
a blanket statement, and I know that's not one hundred percent true, but
43:17
I'm just saying it resonates with me from what I've seen growing up in the
43:22
Midwest. It resonates with me from what I've seen when I lived in New
43:25
York, when I lived in Chicago, when I live in LA and what
43:30
I have experienced, and you know, to have someone who is young and
43:36
be on this charter and be a YACHTI experienced this. I thought she's way
43:40
in over her head. And again education, education, education, about consent,
43:45
and the default response being guilty. It was my fault. I shouldn't
43:52
have done this, I shouldn't have done that. He probably felt like this,
43:55
No, you know, we can't. We cannot keep feeding that beast.
44:00
And again, you know it needs to stop, and it needs to
44:04
stop with obviously at home with education, but again outside of your home,
44:08
at school. It should be on our political and our it should be in
44:15
our political system, it should be in our government. It should be trailing
44:17
down. They barely care about protecting our children, let alone educating them.
44:24
They don't want a bunch of educated, truly truly truly educated pele women coming,
44:31
especially women, you're right, especially and people of the global majority.
44:36
They don't want them getting truly educated as they get older and older and more
44:42
and more truly truly educated, not just with the things of like learning how
44:46
to be a robot and learning to follow the teacher. They don't want them
44:51
growing up and taking over, which is what's going to happen. Sorry,
44:54
Like I feel like this these like the generation of chi that our generation is
45:00
raising, they are going to be hopefully so empowered with their body autonomy and
45:08
like with consent and with boundaries and with just being a general decent human being.
45:16
Like I feel like they have a little bit more of a chance than
45:20
we did because we were absolutely absolutely respect your elders, you know, don't
45:24
ask questions, do as Yeah, and not to say that there should be
45:28
some rules and structure, because there should be. It's just I honestly think
45:32
in every religious institution, every sport, every group activity that involves children,
45:40
there should be immediately when you're like, these are the bathrooms, this is
45:45
where you wash your hands. No one should be touching your body or your
45:50
space without your consent. I mean I'm talking in every single thing that you
45:53
do until we can level out, because this is where it's happening. It's
46:00
so it's really triggering for everyone. I'm sure this episode is resonating among the
46:07
Bravosphere. Yeah, Bravo sphere with like you know, chicken and Rice and
46:13
the fact that she had to google that. I was like, well,
46:15
I mean it had to be right, it had to be Cuban food,
46:17
but she has. I mean, that chef is really screwing up. Thank
46:22
god she got it right. Thank god, Angela. I was so worried.
46:25
I was like, you're not going to get chicken thighs. I'm gonna
46:28
die. Those are first of all, those are my favorite thing in the
46:30
world. I'm a dark meat person, so I was like, you better,
46:32
you best be getting those chicken bibes. I I worry about her because
46:42
she's clearly good. She's she knows what she's doing, but I don't know
46:46
what it is. It's throwing her off to be like, oh, these
46:50
two people, I'm the preference. She says that don't eat red meat,
46:52
and you gave them lamb and you have prepared to steak for them. Well,
47:00
Angela, because it's such an intense episode, we're gonna we're gonna close
47:04
it there and we're just gonna let We're gonna let it the rest of it
47:07
lie. You know, when we revisit, we can talk about all the
47:09
other fun you know, things that happened and things like that. But I
47:14
think it's an important message too. Yeah, it was an intense it was
47:20
episode, and I would you know, love to get you know, I
47:23
would love if anybody knows about, you know, how to push education into
47:30
our the education of consent into our school systems. If you know of anything
47:36
where there is a platform, oh my gosh, a platform yeah, where
47:42
you know people are trying to get this to happen. Please let me know
47:45
because I would like to be a part of that, you know. Yeah.
47:47
Anyway, So Angela, thank you so much for like joining me on
47:52
this deep dive here on below tick down under and Darling's for some some other
48:00
uh you know, recaps and lighthearted things like that. Please subscribe to my
48:05
patreon Patreon dot com Backslash Drama Darling and I'll be back on there tomorrow doing
48:13
Crappy Lake and New York and then that's gonna be up to Okay, okay,
48:17
Angela by Finale Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling