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• 0:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But Carolina Panthers have dropped too straight and the most embarrassing of fashion.
• 0:07
  [UNKNOWN]: They just fired their defensive coordinator, their passing coordinator.
• 0:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But or their defensive passing coordinator.
• 0:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But somehow, they're still in first in the NFC South.
• 0:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina is taking on the 6 and 2 Denver Broncos this week.
• 0:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And Carolina Panthers all fence rebound against that stout defense.
• 0:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Or is this just one week before more heads reached the chopping block?
• 0:28
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• 0:31
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  [UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Dunn.
• 1:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my wheel man Cody Lack, how you doing my friend.
• 1:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Turn it down, you and I got into a little bit of a squabble last postgame, and I feel vindicated brother that the very next day is zero, is zero, is no longer a part of the lives of Panthers fans.
• 1:42
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• 2:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Turned it down, it's a Tuesday night, and then turn it back to the door, brother, let's roll.
• 2:46
  [UNKNOWN]: The number is 252 228 50 98 that's 252 228 50 98 tonight show Panthers fire evaro is Dave can Alice on the hot seat Carolina's head in the Denver right it's a way game I believe you know check that There's a way game see no, it's a home game.
• 3:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh home game in verse head into Carolina
• 3:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina got a Panther's got to go show their faces in Bank of America after two terrible losses.
• 3:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to get your thoughts on the zero-euro firing.
• 3:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Was this deflection?
• 3:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Will the Panthers fix this?
• 3:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And how bad.
• 3:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, did this ever a deserve this after it more importantly was this decision made before Green Bay smash thumbs up But subscribe consider being a C3 super fan for $99 a month.
• 3:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Check us out on Spotify and iTunes good to see CK.
• 3:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I good to see you.
• 3:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's great for you to see me
• 3:46
  [UNKNOWN]: yeah yeah super super stoked honestly uh uh uh you know looking back on what that game ended up being on Thursday night i'm so thankful i did not have to see that um there were uh you know i will say that i had the ability to see that night um but because the doctors told me not to watch screens i was just basically listening the entire time
• 4:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, which by the way, wasn't much better.
• 4:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, so just hearing the, uh, the game.
• 4:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But man, it was, uh, it's been a good week.
• 4:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, I've got the laser surgery.
• 4:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, so my eyesight's looking nice.
• 4:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's really good.
• 4:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, enjoy.
• 4:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I've got my, uh, my name in the call here, um, as I can see K.
• 4:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and so I don't mean to, uh, you know, rub it in there for you, uh, Joey the blind panther.
• 4:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But, uh, yeah, dude, when we talk about ever, I think we have to have a conversation.
• 4:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously my reaction to Thursday's game, uh, horrible, right?
• 4:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it is, it's, it's the type of, the, the bucks game became the catalyst for what I think is a downward trend for the Panthers, um, and I think the recipe of how to beat us was very clearly laid out by the bucks.
• 4:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And so the panther, I don't know how they recover from this outside of getting some people healthy and maybe replacing some of those people that have been liabilities in our offense from the offensive line to, you know, our secondary in many cases.
• 5:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm just, you know, overwhelmed by the amount of
• 5:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know roller coaster.
• 5:21
  [UNKNOWN]: We knew that this team is a roller coaster waiting to happen, but man This has just been we were on top of the world for a little while and then all of a sudden We crashed back down so abruptly and quickly But to answer your question about the ever-o-thing.
• 5:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I said it.
• 5:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe before the game I think on our Tuesday show last week.
• 5:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I said that Ever-o is well, he's not gonna be fired after the buck's game.
• 5:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought he was gonna be fired after the green bay
• 5:46
  [UNKNOWN]: game, not because I necessarily thought the green bay were going to just dominate our defense quite honestly, it might have been one of the better versions of our defense.
• 5:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, that was my secondary perspective that we've seen in a while or overall they held the damn running back to under 60, man, they just, you know, is like, no, they weren't good.
• 6:06
  [UNKNOWN]: That was my point, but the offense was worse.
• 6:09
  [UNKNOWN]: The offense wasn't great, you know, absolutely.
• 6:18
  [UNKNOWN]: what might be worse than I can remember than being in a long time.
• 6:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's stunning.
• 6:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's stunning.
• 6:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I was starting to think about this.
• 6:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, as we took, there were some gambles, you know, I mean, a corner went out.
• 6:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You gambled with Rashid Walker, but it felt like a necessary thing.
• 6:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, people would tell, you know, the buzz was as he was like the best top 10, you know,
• 6:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he will have to try to do a number one lap tackle of it.
• 6:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 6:47
  [UNKNOWN]: You go out and try it.
• 6:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, you feel like that that was a good thing for the Panthers to do.
• 6:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They gambled on Fortner and those gambles failed and I was and I was thinking about it is like somebody said, I've heard multiple people talk about like they can't
• 7:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it rivals the Bryson rookie year like I think Byron I was think of this is Byron Bell.
• 7:19
  [UNKNOWN]: This is before y'all's time on the show Byron Bell No, it wasn't Yeah, I have been byron Bell was a 2014 tackle
• 7:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've been to fans' toilet.
• 7:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you guys were on the show.
• 7:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're on the show.
• 7:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it better to remember Biron Bell be in the fucking world?
• 7:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I just used to shit on him so much.
• 7:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was like, man, Biron Bell's better in this dude.
• 7:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you shit on Biron Bell more than Matt Calil?
• 7:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, it's like it was a good changing of the guard.
• 7:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that Byron Bell, I crapped on him for just being crappy and Dave Gettelman telling us that he could go from right tackled.
• 8:02
  [UNKNOWN]: So left tackled because he was left handed.
• 8:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I hated Matt Kaleo because of how much we paid him any suck too.
• 8:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was that we were supposed to keep rid of his blood.
• 8:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't even that good in Minnesota, but just bought him in because his brother was here.
• 8:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that we'd talk enough about how we're starting this year with three different offensive line positions and the most important positions on the line aren't here,
• 8:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We had a brand new left tackle to start this season.
• 8:34
  [UNKNOWN]: A brand new right tackle and a brand new center like this has been a ton and I don't think it's even surprising to see the results that we're looking at now.
• 8:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're talking about.
• 8:47
  [UNKNOWN]: uh we're going to mention that later tonight, Brady Christians in returning from his injury is a much needed thing right now.
• 8:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We need the presence of a Brady Christian to be able to Christians tend to be able to step in at either that left side or even at center because Rashid Walker and Luke Fortner have looked absolutely terrible and it feels like they're going to get Bryce even more hurt than he has been already.
• 9:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, there's a, see, yeah, you talked about how the, the Green Bay game felt like worse in a sense.
• 9:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 9:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, we, we had last Tuesday, we had a discussion, and we had the graphic up exposed or embarrassed after the Tampa Bay game.
• 9:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And,
• 9:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, there were, I mean, where there's smoke, there's fire for this Carolina Panthers team and there's the smoke's been there on the defense all season.
• 9:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But the offense and the offensive line, the smoke has really been brewing.
• 9:52
  [UNKNOWN]: or I guess smoking, smokey is become smokeyer since the Cleveland game, right?
• 9:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like I felt like that's when you started seeing signs of the offensive line, being problematic, you kinda got diverted because you beat the Detroit lines at home in a big, what Sunday night football.
• 10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, there was this just kind of, I think it was like fans were just hoping that oh man,
• 10:22
  [UNKNOWN]: on all in all phases of the game from offense defense special teams that it may be not a one off but not as bad as that and I think the problem was is that with the green bay game is that as you saw that offensive line just fucking get shredded.
• 10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, you started to wonder as like can the Carolina Panthers survive like can they even be good?
• 10:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, because not that was my argument to so Cody and we got we got into it.
• 10:55
  [UNKNOWN]: But I felt like we were talking in the same directions on certain things.
• 10:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And then not as he was all about, oh, it's just a file.
• 11:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Error was got to go.
• 11:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Ever was got to go and that's fine.
• 11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not seeing her stuff.
• 11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And I said, I'm not stumped in forever.
• 11:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I was just saying, I watched that game and that offense was the worst unit on the field.
• 11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: out of everybody by far and it was so concerning because it's like it's not just like oh man you threw some picks or something it was just like that offensive lie just got just demolished demolished and if you ask me I mean I think for the first you know going back to the
• 11:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 11:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, he knows he has no confidence in his offensive line at all.
• 11:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He knows the moment he takes a step.
• 11:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He's he's done for.
• 11:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And that doesn't what doesn't help is that he has knee injury.
• 11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: That is limiting his mobility.
• 11:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not willing to talk about it.
• 11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's happening.
• 11:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's real.
• 11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and so the issue, the, the reason that everything had to happen is because
• 12:04
  [UNKNOWN]: there have been too many historical problems with that with it what he's done and we'll even go back to this game with Green Bay and acknowledge that there is a moment when we're at 32 when you have your corner backs 15 yards off the line is good.
• 12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: 15 yards and this is the game on the line.
• 12:26
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the game on the line.
• 12:28
  [UNKNOWN]: What in the world are you having people that far off of the line for?
• 12:32
  [UNKNOWN]: They literally have to do a curl and they're done.
• 12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you can do.
• 12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's a bad move to line up six foot four, two hundred and sixty pound, Patrick and Jones on Christian Watson on third and two.
• 12:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Whoa dude, what a call.
• 12:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Larry's pat Jones in this picture.
• 12:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure, look at the very top at the four yard line.
• 12:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man is at the very top.
• 12:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I hate the three for which I know but come on.
• 12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This is so dumb You guys can check out the post game show the Friday free for all was go in was lit on Friday And we're here, man.
• 13:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a big game on Sunday Denver Broncos coming down tonight show was Dave canala's next ever was out fired Canala's next
• 13:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, as the reason I kind of chose the the topic for tonight, guys, was just because when one is just historically, it feels like when one had reaches the chopping block, it's inevitable or not inevitable, but more than likely more will follow.
• 13:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we have to keep the good to increase right so we'll see how that pans out.
• 13:44
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• 14:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But boy, the buck in here's took the fucking favorites today at plus 184 on my bookie.
• 14:25
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolinas.
• 14:26
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• 14:28
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• 14:29
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• 14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: The buck in here is plus 184.
• 14:33
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• 14:34
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• 14:37
  [UNKNOWN]: The Saints plus 60 are the bucks are running away with the NFC South.
• 14:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, they running away, they ran all over the Carolina Panthers and then, man, you're like, hey, if you know, the Panthers should have expected that, right?
• 14:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Baker may feel coming off an injury.
• 14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They're going to run the ball.
• 15:00
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• 15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll let them run for more against us in a historic game.
• 15:09
  [UNKNOWN]: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat the Atlanta Falcons.
• 15:13
  [UNKNOWN]: without throw it completing a single pass.
• 15:17
  [UNKNOWN]: What in the hell it was raining buckets, but that doesn't matter.
• 15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Things started to get clear towards the end.
• 15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And wildly, Baker Mayfield did not complete a pass.
• 15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And Michael Pinnock's had a worse QB rating than Baker Mayfield.
• 15:35
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the word for offensive games ever.
• 15:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, and I'm like best offensive game from one of the better one from the running attack.
• 15:44
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• 15:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are somehow still first in the division.
• 16:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But man, the buck in here is just running all over people.
• 16:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This division is just like it's supposed to be.
• 16:08
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• 16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Are the bucks running away with the division?
• 16:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels that way, right now, how about this?
• 16:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels like the Tampa Bay Book and Ears are playing the best defense in all the NFC South.
• 16:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like they're resurgent.
• 16:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony, this is why I said the first six weeks of the NFL season or a Mirage.
• 16:42
  [UNKNOWN]: No one figured the Tampa Bay Book and Ears
• 16:45
  [UNKNOWN]: would do anything to get back on track and listen, big of a few of the still butt cheeks.
• 16:50
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not a good team offensively, but I think what this actually shows is that no one is running away with this division Tony.
• 17:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that anyone can say that they are.
• 17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: The moment a team looks like they're going to start to do something.
• 17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: then they get in front of their own feet and start tripping over their shoelaces.
• 17:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Then another team comes up and laying the looks out there getting back on track.
• 17:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Then Michael Pinnick starts throwing a bunch of sloppy jose all over the field.
• 17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers one minute looks like they're pushing them all time offensive season.
• 17:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Then for this offensive line to come crashing back down to earth.
• 17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I don't know how anyone can say that anyone Bucking here's Tampa Falcons or New Orleans is running away with this division.
• 17:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how anyone should or would feel comfortable saying that.
• 17:48
  [UNKNOWN]: See, Kate, does that make you feel better about Carolina's future this season and like making them we're about to get into the Ever-O-Talk deep, but like, you know, making a move, trying to salvage it.
• 18:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We're still in it for the division to make you feel better.
• 18:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, to a degree, I mean, but at the same time, I've seen what this team puts out on the field right now, and it's not, it doesn't make me feel great about our prospects as a as a squad, like I hate to be the Debbie downer, but I mean, there's nothing that this team has done that's made me over the past two or three weeks.
• 18:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's made me feel and all positive about what they've done so far.
• 18:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, do you agree or would you say that I'm being a bit?
• 18:34
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't disagree at all, man, is that like this is what I hate about the idea of the NFC South, me and so horrifically bad, but also horrifically or massively competitive, the parity of crap and the NFC South is that I feel like it prolongs.
• 18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: problems, right?
• 18:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And it prolongs this, like, taking a direction.
• 19:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think a great example would be this is that, like, look at Everett, right?
• 19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You've been, you said that two years ago you said it should have been fired.
• 19:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 19:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Honestly, is that some people are saying that the defense was okay last, it was pretty good last year, so they're going to give it a
• 19:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I think the worst, I just am so, like just fatigued by the ideas that the Carolina Panthers were going to be at six and what you'll be like at six and ten.
• 19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: or six and nine and you're like, oh, and still one game I remember.
• 19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, there's there's a chance to make the playoffs.
• 19:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's just like, I don't know, like, yuck and stink.
• 19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And then what if you do make the playoffs and Dave can Alice's back and price your, you know, it just feels like it, it's, it just says like such a shitty argument to be like,
• 19:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you still are in the playoff.
• 20:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm trying to think of what an analogy would be like, is like, if you just like lost your home and your job and like somebody's just like, well, you got your health.
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• 20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, you could go and just put 50, 500, put it on the Broncos right now.
• 20:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know, probably the Panthers will stun or do something crazy like that.
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• 20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm a super chat buddy.
• 21:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, there's been this Panthers drew with a $10 love bomb says, problem with the green bank game was often suddenly forgetting how to play.
• 21:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It gave us all PTSD from last year.
• 21:13
  [UNKNOWN]: If right this is actually hurt, he should sit.
• 21:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He would only be hurting himself and the team.
• 21:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is a conversation that we're going to get into tonight because so much of the conversation is that Bryce is hurt that he's not as mobile as a normal is because of that need that it's causing him to be a little more inaccurate it's causing him to have that anxiety standing behind that offensive line knowing anything every moment he's probably getting ready to be obliterated.
• 21:46
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a question that we're going to have to wrestle with and I think depending on how Bryce looks against the Broncos this Sunday, if Bryce doesn't continue to play like he did to start the season, I think the calls to make a change could end up being resounding.
• 22:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Every game now going forward is incredibly important.
• 22:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But look, boys, let's get into it, and I know we've already talked about it a little bit.
• 22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, now, okay, so we did the post game on Thursday night, we didn't talk about the game.
• 22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And then Friday morning comes and we find out that a zero, zero in zero four of his tenure as the defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers has been fired.
• 22:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, you know, I got to react to this on the Friday free for all, but
• 22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: telling us okay and you know it kind of just sort of finished talking about it a little bit but going forward seeing all of the problems that we've had with the Viro with the Jiro Viro and for you here in Carolina we've given him draft picks we've given him free agent signings and it means it bears repeating
• 23:05
  [UNKNOWN]: A duo of Varyl, his defense, replied me, this is all about to 2023, his pressures, waited 30 seconds and the lead, his rush yards per game, 30 seconds, sacks, 30 seconds, and points per game, the 30th.
• 23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And Dan Orlovsky had the nerve to go on TV and say that a duo of Varyl is a good coordinator.
• 23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, this could not have come at a better time.
• 23:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It shows me that Dave can now this is serious about winning this year, but to me this is something that needed to happen a long time ago.
• 23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm happy that it's happened now, but boys just, they're full, voiced, full-chested,
• 23:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I first I would say that it shows that can now this wants to win now.
• 24:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's anything to do with it.
• 24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this is just inevitable that after this two-game stretch right here somebody's got a answer right somebody's got to pay
• 24:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, the Piper or whatever the right saying is and look is that Evo Ro has needed this.
• 24:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, we've had Evo Ro's got to go on this.
• 24:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, hey, oh, Evo Ro's got to go.
• 24:28
  [UNKNOWN]: We've had this saying C. K has been calling for it for years.
• 24:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He had 12 may think about this.
• 24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You had 12 games where you allowed 200 and plus plus more rushing yards.
• 24:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers only had like five.
• 24:44
  [UNKNOWN]: previous to this or something like this.
• 24:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It was something I'd say that the only team to give up was it 250 this season and they did it twice.
• 24:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got 20.7% of his get um it's just it's just it's been bad right and I think this to be honest I just think it's less about I mean look
• 25:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is that, you know, and we'll, I'll ask CK about this is when did this decision get made, but you heard Dave can now talk about it and that was, you know, well, he talks with Dan Morgan and David Tepper,
• 25:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if they instructed him what to do, but I was watching this cooking show is like chef's final table last night and these guys are like they all have to make, they all had to make like some sort of dish and it was for this Mexican, this five star, whatever Michelin star guy and he was a great Mexican chef and he comes over and talks to these guys.
• 25:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, uh, they're like, oh, this is what we're doing.
• 25:48
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what we're doing.
• 25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And he goes, um, just a little worry that it's uh, you're doing too much.
• 25:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, and then these guys, he walks away and they're like, let's take off the lobster, take off the lobster.
• 26:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's simplify it, right?
• 26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Then at the end of the damn show, he goes, I really wish you would have left the lobster.
• 26:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was thinking, man, sometimes you got to just do what you're good, not you're good, but what you believe in.
• 26:13
  [UNKNOWN]: In this case, though, you've got David Tepper, the owner sitting there.
• 26:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's clearly not happy.
• 26:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And he might not tell you what to do, but he's like, something's got to happen.
• 26:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And Dave can house is like, walk it out there like, fuck, I got to do something, right?
• 26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, look, where is he going to go logically?
• 26:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not going to go after his offense is offensive coordinator.
• 26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And this was, this is a long time coming, but more important to me, importantly to me, CK is that like, is this going to be something that prevents that slows?
• 26:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, the bleeding or is this just a sign that like, if, I mean, if they don't come back, it's going to be Bryce Young and Dave canal is clawing out of this together and if they don't.
• 27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, heads are going to roll, and it's not just going to be these two guys, CK win was this decision.
• 27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: When you think it was made because I think, uh, I think there's a lot of signs pointing to that they were ready that after that Tampa game, somebody had to pay or start to get in that case, and that the 258 yards rushing, the no answers, the no adjustments on that.
• 27:25
  [UNKNOWN]: and then like you were saying is that the week itself went towards potentially delaying the announcement or think about ever who had to prepare a week didn't I mean was he like oh I'm gonna get fired I'm already fired I was talking to me yeah I think that uh to me it was I don't even think it's a question this was a decision they made after the buck's game yeah yeah
• 27:48
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing that might have saved his job is the fact that the books were able to do the exact same thing if not worse to the, to the, the Falcons.
• 28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And so it didn't feel as disheartening to have a team beat you with only three completions when they beat the Falcons with none.
• 28:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, or whatever, how many completions do you have or many, uh, Baker made, Baker made for all that.
• 28:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that game was so incredibly bad for the Panthers defense that we, we knew what they were doing nonstop and they didn't.
• 28:26
  [UNKNOWN]: do, they just, there was nothing they could do to stop the bucky Irving in this and that running game.
• 28:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It was just, it was embarrassing.
• 28:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think when that happens and you have the situation you do with this defense, there's only so many opportunities you can give a guy.
• 28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Really, there's only so much you can do.
• 28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: If I may jump in here, Tony, I want to respond to you real quick.
• 28:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's too easy to just say, oh, man, this is David Tepper, leering down and breathing down everyone's neck.
• 29:01
  [UNKNOWN]: What other move was he going to make?
• 29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's important to remember the context of why your barrel was still here.
• 29:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Even after Derek Brown goes down for an entire season and the panther's defense gives up the most points in NFL history.
• 29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: they gave a vero the benefit of the doubt.
• 29:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 29:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So the next year we hit Derek Brown and JC Horn healthy for most of the season and we're still a bottom half of the middling defense.
• 29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you start this season on fire.
• 29:37
  [UNKNOWN]: offensively, but you're open to citizen at home, letting their Chicago bears run down your throat, then to do the same thing against the Tampa Bay Book and here's this if Dave can now let's head any serious commitment to winning.
• 29:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This was the only move that he could have made.
• 29:59
  [UNKNOWN]: and failure to make this move would have been to send all to everyone, the Panthers, fans, the front office that they don't give a damn about the outcome of the season and they're not willing to pivot at all.
• 30:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave can now just had to make this move.
• 30:21
  [UNKNOWN]: She had to make this fire and
• 30:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Better leadership than my new zero in barrel was getting.
• 30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think just like when can Dallas benched bars young after that chargers game in 2024 We gave Dave can Dallas credit for doing the hard thing.
• 30:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you have to do the same thing here
• 30:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't disagree with you is that you have to do something at some point if you're like, I mean, you can't just keep doing the same thing.
• 30:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying, I think there's just a sense that the, in the room, the big guy is not happy with the same thing happening anymore, right?
• 31:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't, the other thing about this, the, is that,
• 31:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, is like, a go back to the Everrow thing, is like, what is there's something that has to do with his personality?
• 31:20
  [UNKNOWN]: in the background that we're starting to see more and more subtle comments about.
• 31:27
  [UNKNOWN]: They let go of the defensive pass and coordinator with them.
• 31:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Those guys seem to be buddies.
• 31:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave Canales kind of talked about like, well, needing to be on the same page, the same page.
• 31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I almost have a feeling like nobody really wanted to work with Everrow.
• 31:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He was tough to work with in a sense.
• 31:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He knew everything.
• 31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And you couldn't tell him anything.
• 31:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And like, I think that Dave Cadales had kind of been suffering from being bullied in a sense.
• 31:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's on Dave Cadales just as much as anybody.
• 31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, doesn't it also feel like Dave can now this purposefully didn't want anything to do with the defense.
• 32:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why he felt comfortable with the Drew and Varyl for so long because he can say, hey, he's the defensive guy on all things defense, I'm going to defer to him.
• 32:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You remember last year when they had to take my Jackson off of, I think it was George Pickins when we were playing the Cowboys and we came back in one.
• 32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And then Jason Horn had to be the one to kind of go up to him and like, hey man, let's switch it up a little bit.
• 32:31
  [UNKNOWN]: That was something that a duo of Vero wasn't going to do.
• 32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And Dave Canalis, our Hank Coach, wasn't going to make a
• 32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So Tony, you're all right, it's like, it's your ovarrow was the bully of what the panthers were going to do defensively, what he said goes and ultimately, I think,
• 33:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I think the this kind of news of the Angela Hall being brought back is is and what is in some ways he quietly let go, right like and then why is this he's just not like rolling with his defensive.
• 33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: coaching group anymore.
• 33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't really hear anything about it.
• 33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's kind of some mystery now, because we didn't know about it.
• 33:27
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a story that we're finding out, ultimately in the aftermath, Everrow's gone.
• 33:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And in two days, they're bringing D'Angelo Hall back and they're talking about, they're saying things like, well, he kind of challenges the status quo and he has some technique things that he, and it felt like he was like, Everrow just knew better than everybody.
• 33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He knew everybody better than everybody and couldn't listen to nobody and any of the problems that were going on he didn't want to hear shit he was working on and he was going to get it fixed he knew what he was doing and ultimately I'm not I'm not buying it.
• 34:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care when everybody says about he can break down film and identify a team in the offense.
• 34:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh shit, this guy's offense ain't done jack squats since he's been here.
• 34:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You could say his first year, oh, they held the low points or whatever, but no, man, the pants are scoring four points to get three points of game.
• 34:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't have to do crap teams.
• 34:23
  [UNKNOWN]: They were just like drag the game out.
• 34:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't give ever any credit on any of the statistics about making things better.
• 34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: All we've heard is excuses, excuses about always the talent, the talent's not there, the people are hurt.
• 34:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know what, I feel like I have, have you ever heard of a team giving so much, not grace, but like,
• 34:44
  [UNKNOWN]: trust in like, no, in players.
• 34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, what are DJ Johnson?
• 34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I was up to that.
• 34:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, Tony, this is what I'm saying.
• 34:54
  [UNKNOWN]: No other coach related to this organization has ever gotten as many opportunities to fail upward than the giro of a vera.
• 35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This was a past do move and how about this, Tony, two things can be true at the same time.
• 35:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Was it escape going firing to a degree because that's how bad you've been the past two games in a row absolutely that's true the offense has been terrible and going forward the biggest glaring hole on this team is the offensive line no one's going to argue that but seeing what we have seen from this Carolina defense
• 35:33
  [UNKNOWN]: For four years now, it was indefensible.
• 35:37
  [UNKNOWN]: This is something that needed to happen.
• 35:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's something that I'm happy that we've done and now we're moving on.
• 35:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Now in a minute, we're going to talk about Todd Wash and what he brings to this defense and hopefully the return of that Panthers for three.
• 35:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Before we get to that,
• 35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me ask you this though.
• 36:00
  [UNKNOWN]: As you say, that this is, it shows that the Panthers need it, you know, you're taking this serious, you know, this is a legitimate fire.
• 36:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't really, I mean, I'm not disagreeing with these at all, right?
• 36:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But you kind of in some ways, poo pooed my idea.
• 36:19
  [UNKNOWN]: or dismiss it that you walk into the room and you just feel that sentiment from the powers of being.
• 36:28
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't have to tell you, you just know that they're unhappy and you gotta do something to make them happier before you're the person that gets fired.
• 36:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So you go out and you do this, right?
• 36:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, what you who said was, is no, that's not what it is, is it had to be done?
• 36:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But my question is this, is firing evaro enough to show a commitment?
• 36:54
  [UNKNOWN]: to winning, because right now, that offensive line is trash, straight, trash.
• 37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And what I think is this is that if you're gonna say, you can't just keep going out there and do the same thing defensively.
• 37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's, if it's it and canalus have the luxury of just going out there and fielding the same offensive line unit and just being like, well, it's the best guys and practice.
• 37:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that personally, I do, I think this move is there's only so long that our offense was not going to be able to, you know, we see that multiple times this year where our offense was able to keep up with other offenses, but our defense was not able to keep up with the other offense.
• 37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And so because of that, I think we lost games like the bears game.
• 37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: We lost games like
• 37:47
  [UNKNOWN]: What was the other high scoring one where just felt like we kept on we couldn't quite put it together.
• 37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, there's there's enough of an evidence to show that our defense was not able to play complimentary football.
• 37:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Does that mean we don't have a need to replay or repair the things that we've done on offense?
• 38:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely not.
• 38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: We absolutely have a glaring need on offense.
• 38:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But right now the problem that I feel like we have is if we don't fix the defense.
• 38:14
  [UNKNOWN]: it does not matter.
• 38:15
  [UNKNOWN]: What have we noticed about some of the best teams in the NFL over the past few years?
• 38:20
  [UNKNOWN]: The best teams tend to have a complimentary defense.
• 38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I would almost argue that it's a 95% chance, a 95% to 5% where an offense that just has no defense is able to be good versus a defense that's able to be good without a good offense.
• 38:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I would rather our defense be positive.
• 38:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I want our
• 38:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But I would much rather our defense be the focus right now, and then allow us to figure out the rest of this incrementally.
• 38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what, well, well, I guess we can save a little.
• 38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: How are they gonna make a real adjustment or are they just gonna fire ever, and say we're gonna go out there and start fricking, Rashid Walker, and whoever else, I mean, Fortner.
• 39:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know what, to be honest, I was thinking about this, CK, when we were talking earlier about like, how do we're analyzing this Packers losses?
• 39:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 39:17
  [UNKNOWN]: you know Cody said what we got two new offensive line three new offensive lineman at two important three positions.
• 39:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah you didn't I don't I kind of give the free line.
• 39:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't look at it.
• 39:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't think about it as much.
• 39:30
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm also saying this Robert Hunt to climb is really been and maybe it's not just Robert Hunt.
• 39:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's because he's probably beside Fortner.
• 39:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Or maybe it's because the plan beside Fort N'Ran in Freely, you know that offensive learned there, such a cohesive unit that really, it's not just one offensive lineman, either playing good or bad.
• 39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: If one guy doesn't do his job, it makes the rest of the other four looks silly.
• 40:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So I didn't want to just sort of continue to talk about it from this regard, why did the Panthers fire a zero of arrow?
• 40:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So these were the words of Dame Canalis.
• 40:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony, you're asking what comes next for this detail fence.
• 40:18
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what Dame Canal is said about why he decided to move on from a vero.
• 40:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Dame Canal is said, and I quote, and came down to how many games we have in front of us, the position we're at, the division, we really just wanted to get the most out of our guys and really making that decision.
• 40:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I take that responsibility very seriously as the hand coach.
• 40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's my responsibility to put the
• 40:41
  [UNKNOWN]: to the players to put them in a position where they feel confident, where they're able to be ready to go.
• 40:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So I just took a lot of information in and I came to the conclusion at this point right now to be able to lay the groundwork for the style of football that we wanted.
• 40:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Now my question is this, does this mean that a zero of arrow have lost that locker room defensively that he was no longer even motivated
• 41:09
  [UNKNOWN]: these defensive players to play their best football, because when you put that line right there, and it says, it's my responsibility to put the players to put them in a position where they feel confident, where they feel ready to go.
• 41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, that's kind of like saying that the Jewel of Vero wasn't inspiring these guys defensively, but that's kind of a way of saying it without saying it.
• 41:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're wrong in that.
• 41:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's like a Jew, as I say type of guy, and I don't know how that's like rubbing off on the younger guys, but like a
• 41:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Latham ransom, where's he been at?
• 41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: He's, but he was fucking pounding people early in the season, preseason, not part like he's just kind of disappearing in a offense or in a defense that had a bunch of kind of problems in the back end, it felt like Chal Smith weighed, you know, you might will leave the third, you know, they went out there and I mean, these guys like made plays.
• 42:19
  [UNKNOWN]: in this green bay game where they perfect no, did they make some mistakes, but somehow he keeps putting that that keep Evans guy and then his Marco Wilson guy comes out of nowhere.
• 42:28
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels like I don't know.
• 42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: See, we have said this for a while is that the defensive injuries are a legitimate thing to talk about, but you have to play the hand your dealt and we have not felt in the time that Evo was here that he got more out of the guys
• 42:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I have to say it from the get go.
• 42:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I've never once felt like that Evro was a difference to make her for our team.
• 42:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Not one time, and that's not me trying to be like, create a clip or anything.
• 43:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't think that I've ever once felt like we out coached another team.
• 43:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, and that's that's a problem.
• 43:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's never took away some, you know, Bill Bella check would always do this.
• 43:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He would take away the best player on the team.
• 43:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 43:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And he would say, like it's somehow they like identified something.
• 43:21
  [UNKNOWN]: You never just were like,
• 43:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He's out skiing, anybody.
• 43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It felt like always felt CK that Evo did what he was going to do.
• 43:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And if it went right, it went right.
• 43:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And if it didn't go right, it went wrong.
• 43:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And he couldn't ever adjust.
• 43:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Tampa Bay was a great example of that.
• 43:38
  [UNKNOWN]: He was like, well, this is the game plan I drew up.
• 43:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what else to do.
• 43:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But he's as blitz at a higher rate than he ever has this year.
• 43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And still can't generate any pressure.
• 43:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there are some real deficiencies on this.
• 43:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't know if taking ever a way is going to solve Carolina's problems, it might not make them worse, it might be a little addition by subtraction, but it's not going to fix that offensive one.
• 44:07
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it's not going to fix the offensive line, but I mean, it you can't you have to make a change to show not only the players, but you have to make a change to show the fans that you are making an attempt at making this team better because up to this point again, this is a move that should have been made years ago.
• 44:27
  [UNKNOWN]: When we put on paper the worst historical defense on the face of the planet in a history of the NFL not in the in the first week ever in the NFL not in the first half the NFL in entire season of the worst ever NFL defense like you can't bring the guy like that back especially when you inherited him to begin with.
• 44:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And it shows he came, they would rather bring back the old defensive coordinator and do the same old thing, rather than bring in someone new.
• 45:04
  [UNKNOWN]: They just didn't, Dave canalists didn't have the balls to take it the rest of the way.
• 45:10
  [UNKNOWN]: They thought that the Jiro of Vero was gonna keep the continuity.
• 45:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And it just didn't.
• 45:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Look how many players were on their Carolina Panthers defense that aren't in your more.
• 45:21
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no blind birds.
• 45:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, we knew that that came with our two new cards, getting rid of them.
• 45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But he was instantly a better passwisher for the Giants than he was under a Jiro of Vero.
• 45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Jeremy Chen, who was the fan favorite for the Panthers.
• 45:37
  [UNKNOWN]: A barrel comes in and doesn't know what to do with them.
• 45:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Always saw his snap count decreasing and decreasing and decreasing.
• 45:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Jeremy Chen is actually playing decent football for the Raiders right now.
• 45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It just seemed like a barrel was always over his squeeze and I feel like Dan Morgan and Dave can now just knew that for a long time.
• 46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: and I feel like now they're kicking themselves for not making this move even earlier.
• 46:07
  [UNKNOWN]: When do you think the move should have been made?
• 46:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 46:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So we asked if it was made after the Green Bay game.
• 46:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody says it needed to be made regardless.
• 46:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking I'm going back now and just in retrospect, CK, I think it needed to be made after Canalis's first season.
• 46:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't disagree.
• 46:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the his first season was the year that we put up the worst historical defense in the NFL.
• 46:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That wasn't that wasn't Frank Reich's first year.
• 46:36
  [UNKNOWN]: That was Dave Canalis's first year.
• 46:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And so that to have that be the defense that your first experience as a head coach, that's what you get to put on paper.
• 46:48
  [UNKNOWN]: That's with Brian Burns if I'm not mistaken either.
• 46:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, as well.
• 46:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I could be wrong in that that was with Brian Burns, right?
• 46:55
  [UNKNOWN]: his first year.
• 46:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, what year?
• 46:57
  [UNKNOWN]: So it varies.
• 46:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's really bad defense ever a first year was with Ryan was it was pretty good in the statistical category.
• 47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It varies the first year when it was a thousand years.
• 47:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't 23 year was his first year.
• 47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And 24 was the terrible was the first year of canalice, right?
• 47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, that was when the Panthers defense was atrocious.
• 47:22
  [UNKNOWN]: They, you know, you're sitting there going your canalice, your first time had coached and you're like, he's got a grip of these players.
• 47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He was pretty good last year, statistically keeping points.
• 47:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And it felt like, and you know, canalice doesn't know everybody in the league just yet
• 47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: and he leaned on just that familiarity, but after his first year as a head coach in that defense being, that was that his first year as head coach was in and they gave up like the most points in NFL history or whatever.
• 47:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 47:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And then somehow he maintained him, again, maybe he was bullied in that case.
• 48:01
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the year that Canalis needed to say,
• 48:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm the coach.
• 48:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to do something right now and make a statement because you know, you didn't know if can Alice is going to have much leash.
• 48:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He was going to have for how long.
• 48:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Then the 25 season comes around.
• 48:16
  [UNKNOWN]: They get incrementally and incrementally better.
• 48:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're like, oh, well, they bring them back.
• 48:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they renewed his contract.
• 48:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And now you're here.
• 48:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You just prolong the inevitable.
• 48:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think again, there's no reason that we can, I remember being so limited that we kept him out for that year, that we put up that bad defense.
• 48:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And that was again, me and you Tony were talking about this, it nauseam that that year, that this idea that this was a top 10 defense was just not, it was fake.
• 48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It was the most true version of fake news that you could ever ask for when it comes to the NFL and we saw that the following year when anybody could do whatever they wanted to do, you know, to this defense and, you know, we knew what teams were doing and we still could not stop it.
• 49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I, and in that's been the case for the most part, the only thing that saved us has been sometimes talent has outplayed coaching in my opinion.
• 49:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Having JC Horn and Mike Jack has made that the, the, the, the overall look way better than he deserved to look and, and many and many games.
• 49:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, what are the Panthers doing now?
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I would have loved to have seen them move on in higher and outside guy to come in here and coach these guys up because I mean I think it is on that you're putting the guy that's defensive the defensive line coach
• 49:45
  [UNKNOWN]: on a from a defense that is not able to just establish any form of pressure whatsoever, but he does have a pedigree that a lot of people don't know about here and experience that a lot of people don't know about, but that's a great point is this is a underperforming unit again, he's under the suppression and the oppression of EGRO ever, but tell us about Todd Wash, Carolina's interim defensive coordinator.
• 50:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so this is Todd Wash.
• 50:13
  [UNKNOWN]: He comes from Jacksonville.
• 50:15
  [UNKNOWN]: He's done a bunch of different things in his career.
• 50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's actually go back.
• 50:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Wash both nearly three decades of coaching experience, including 20 years in the NFL.
• 50:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He earned the first NFL opportunity in 2007 with the Buckingham News.
• 50:29
  [UNKNOWN]: serving as a defensive quality control coach after a stand as a defensive line coach and there's all the modern North Dakota state following three seasons in Tampa Bay, Washington, Seattle, City Ox, this is a defensive line coach and see how long you've forged strong relationships with canalists and current Panthers GM Dan Moore.
• 50:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So dude, if they go that far back,
• 50:58
  [UNKNOWN]: in 2004, I'd digress, it's so stupid.
• 51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, incidentally, Ford's working relationship with Ken Dallas, and Dan Morgan, who were both serving as CDOX in an executive in coaching roles, while the first NFL defensive coordinator role in 2016 with the Jack Wires, he initially joined Jacksonville in 2013, that's the run game coordinator before earning the promotion three years later.
• 51:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Underings guidance, Jacksonville filled at one of the NFL's premier duty fences.
• 51:29
  [UNKNOWN]: In 2017, the Jack Widers finished top two in total defense, scoring defense, takeaways, and sex, wash spent time with the Detroit lines before joining Carolina in 2023 as the defensive line coach.
• 51:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, this is another big part of the conversation.
• 51:52
  [UNKNOWN]: how this Todd watched defense fit Carolina scheme wash projects to transition to the Panthers towards their 4-3 alignment.
• 52:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: His system emphasizes the single gap penetration authorizing interior linemen to shoot gaps and to shoot plays behind the line of scrimmage rather than absorbing double teams.
• 52:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes Derek Brown will love this.
• 52:19
  [UNKNOWN]: coverage games are expected to learn on simplifying cover one and cover three shells to reduce pre-stap communication breakdowns, watch also if favors are more aggressive approach up front do some lion stunts and selective blitzing to generate pressure.
• 52:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Caroline is deep into front alliance as well, with watches preferred philosophy, defensive tackle, Darib Brown, and Bobby Brown, the third project has an exterior beneficiary of single gap responsibilities.
• 52:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Lionbacker, Devilord, and Bobby O'Karrick, bring speed to the box, watch his scheme, freeze off ball lionbackers to re-season attack downhill, faster against the run, meanwhile the addition of three-time
• 53:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The Angela Hall to the coach and corner back room provides needed support for a depleted second-dairy room.
• 53:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Promote-in-wash marks a pivotal moment for the Panthers, while the defensive, while the defense continues to navigate injuries across the depth chart, washes aggressive scheme aligned naturally with Carolinas core personnel.
• 53:36
  [UNKNOWN]: this man favors a 43 defense and I feel like he's going to try to find opportunities to get dirt brown in more one-on-one situations.
• 53:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you remember when we had Roman Harper on here, he said that he felt someone like a dirt brown.
• 53:53
  [UNKNOWN]: would benefit tremendously from being a one-happing, three-technic, defensive tackle.
• 54:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like maybe we might be able to see that now here in Carolina with dirt brown.
• 54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't get your hopes up, Jess yet, uh, Cardi switching schemes mid-season is, is one thing.
• 54:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, we can talk about look is that he coordinated Jaguar's defense right second in the NFL in 2017, they called them Saxonville.
• 54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: right he's been involved like he's he's been involved with people like Aiden Hutchinson, Kaleas Campbell, but this story is not just like oh and what was the the point that you brought up his relationship with canalice?
• 54:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah he goes back with canalice and then more than a long way.
• 54:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 54:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 54:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's been here since 2003.
• 54:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not a problem.
• 54:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He did.
• 54:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And he was under ever a
• 54:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He started coaching in Tampa Bay in 2007 with Evaro, they both were defensive quality coaches under John Gurden.
• 55:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He is Evaro brought him in.
• 55:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This Carolina Panthers is not like he's just new.
• 55:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a new hire last year trying to help with this defensive line and this team get better.
• 55:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been part of the problem while he was a defensive coordinator with a 4-3 front.
• 55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been involved in the team coaching team that's been running the 3-4 and they haven't
• 55:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, could the Carolina Panthers is there an opportunity in some ways that they could adjust some of their schemes and their sets?
• 55:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Because all we heard is this for so long as people criticize the three, four, oh, that's the base set.
• 55:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But we run nickel 90, puts 7% of the time.
• 55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't really do that.
• 55:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But then we see that stupid play where the defensive end is out there.
• 55:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we have enough
• 55:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be with I think with C. K. C. K. I don't know if bringing in an outsider is anything but like flash in a sense, but I do not want and I'm excited that potentially this I'm glad this guy's got experience in the past I'm glad he's not just like wet behind the ears completely, but he's also got fingerprints.
• 56:15
  [UNKNOWN]: on on this problem here.
• 56:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not just like all of a sudden like Evaro's problem is gone.
• 56:20
  [UNKNOWN]: His wash was part of this.
• 56:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Now was he being oppressed and suppressed by Evaro who in some ways was the guy that hired him and was this buddy?
• 56:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know.
• 56:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, I'm not saying that it would have done anything miraculous.
• 56:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree it might have just been flashy, but like I was ready to get rid of a lot of the needed, you know, I was ready to move on from every part of the right regime that I possibly could.
• 56:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I was fine with them moving on from a lot of the people on this defense.
• 56:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that I would have been, again, hey, listen, I'm more than happy to see what that dude could possibly do.
• 56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And if he can be the guy, he can be the guy.
• 57:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, let him see what happens, but I was hoping to be able to see something a little more flashy.
• 57:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's okay.
• 57:07
  [UNKNOWN]: We're midseason.
• 57:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not often that type of stuff happens.
• 57:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 57:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 57:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's just say, Dave can allus because Dave can allus has been reported as being non-committal when it comes to whether or not we're going to move to a 4 or 3 defense.
• 57:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He was asked and this is what he said.
• 57:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the talent that we have our commitment is to get the best lesson on the field.
• 57:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would really want to get into the details of it.
• 57:33
  [UNKNOWN]: because we have a game this week, so we'll keep that to ourselves.
• 57:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's safe to say, you know, we have a really good solid room of outside line matters, you know, and past pressures, and translate really well, when you play in a nickel, you know, it's just, it's just a normal deal, you know.
• 57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So in base defense, you know, there's going to be a flavor, and what we're going to put the best of Lebanon for
• 57:57
  [UNKNOWN]: So again, didn't really say yes or no, kind of non-committal is basically saying we have a bunch of outside live backers that that we like.
• 58:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's indicative of him saying, well, but we're built to be a three four, we're going to continue to be a three four, but it does seem as though he isn't going to say too much because maybe there is a change that he would like to make.
• 58:20
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... before playing uh... a dainver broncos was by the way their defenses whenever dainver broncos team is good it's always because their defense is good and i think that's by the broncos are good again this year but dainver's offense has not been great
• 58:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Botanics is kind of average.
• 58:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They're doing enough to win, but I think that maybe there might be a few tricks that they want to have saved up their sleep for Botanics and that often comes Sunday.
• 58:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to our number two of the C3 Panthers podcast.
• 59:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Tonight's show, Panthers Fire
• 59:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Our number one, we talked about is era ever was firing to Todd wash replacement and when this decision was made and who made it and why they made it now, though, the Carolina Panthers cannot just go forward and say we replaced the defensive coordinator.
• 59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: we hope things get better.
• 59:30
  [UNKNOWN]: There are some significant issues facing this Carolina Panthers team on the other side of the ball.
• 59:37
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers offense was clearly the worst unit on the field against Green Bay.
• 59:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They took five sex against Tampa.
• 59:44
  [UNKNOWN]: They took six against Green Bay.
• 59:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Green Bay was not even known for being great on the rush and tell you this,
• 59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Tampa wasn't even that like in 10 like they hadn't been great in the past rush going into the game with Carolina somehow these defenses are the get right game against the Carolina Panthers and now Tampa Bay's exploding and destroying the Atlanta Falcons who knows what Green Bay's going to do what is Carolina going to do on the offensive side.
• 1:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about Bryce Young Cody.
• 1:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let me get to the brush slide, brush y'all, he was asked about his knee and Tony, this is something that we alluded to a little earlier with the brush y'all and the discussion around his knee and how are your feels?
• 1:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: He was asked about his knee injury heading into week nine.
• 1:00:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But it says, I'm good, replied young who's been on the injury report with the issues in two weeks for, I'm capable of doing everything for the team, it's football.
• 1:00:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you can ask anyone across the league who's been playing if they feel if they're not having something.
• 1:01:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, that's part of the game, but yeah, I feel good, I'm blessed to be able to go out there, so it's all just about execution.
• 1:01:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, this is where we're all going to be looking for, right?
• 1:01:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Telling you, C. K. We have heaped praises on Bryce Young all year, because he has deserved them.
• 1:01:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He has started this season on a pace that, uh, even Bryce's biggest detractors, even some of his biggest supporters, never thought imaginable.
• 1:01:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He was outpacing
• 1:01:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm however going to this be very, very honest with you that the past two games in the row has felt like we have seen a return of old Bryce, not Alabama Bryce, but early Panthers Bryce.
• 1:01:57
  [UNKNOWN]: the one who panics at a moment's notice as soon as the line breaks down in front of them, the guy who throws in the bad coverage is it just seems like he's reverting back to the price of all.
• 1:02:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that that's something that's going to be a story line this Sunday, okay, and Tony, that this Sunday, your price continues to play like he did against Tampa,
• 1:02:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're getting to hear some calls from fans saying, why are we trodding Bryce Dung out there behind this piece meal offensive line to injure himself even further, because you know he's not going to take himself out.
• 1:02:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's playing for a contract.
• 1:02:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce don't want to pay paid.
• 1:02:51
  [UNKNOWN]: and you don't do that sitting in the bench, but at the same time how much doesn't injured Bryce Young hurt this team?
• 1:03:00
  [UNKNOWN]: This is going to be one of the biggest story lines to follow as this team moves forward.
• 1:03:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think, listen, I'm not going to sit here and try to defend anything that Bryce Young put on tape the last two weeks.
• 1:03:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that we can see exactly where the issues lie.
• 1:03:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And when you give Bryce an opportunity, I think the dude can be incredible.
• 1:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: right I think we've seen that this year it's uh there is absolutely uh he needs to be better under pressure and not you know throw though though ducks or anything along those lines but and I didn't see it again I know that he he did he did have an interception this game against Reembear no.
• 1:03:44
  [UNKNOWN]: uh oh did he have a this uh he might have been one for one I don't I don't remember
• 1:03:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But nonetheless like I mean even with just like I don't know that what I've seen has made me feel like Bryce has been
• 1:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the number one reason why we need to, you know, consider our offense bad, right?
• 1:04:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But he has not said that's, I think he's lower on the list than he's been in the past.
• 1:04:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been the highest on the list of why we have been good this season.
• 1:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: So Cody was really hard on him in the post game show.
• 1:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: CK about, you know, he left plays out there, this old Bryce.
• 1:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young was 23 for 41.
• 1:04:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He did, he had a touchdown and an interception in the Green Bay game.
• 1:04:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but again, uh, I'm with you.
• 1:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Sikaya agree is that like he's, he's kind of, he's low on the list of problems for me.
• 1:04:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, there is only one problem right now, because nothing can be good.
• 1:04:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is what we got in a big argument about his who could be good behind that offensive line.
• 1:04:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Agreed.
• 1:04:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's, it could be like, Oh, there are people that can do it.
• 1:04:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, no, I don't really think in a, even if somebody could do it for a moment, I don't think it's sustainable.
• 1:05:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I think we've seen it constantly with good quarterbacks who can make it happen, that get injured in season because they can't continue to take the hits, continue to deal with the things they're dealing with on a regular basis.
• 1:05:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, yes, is there things that, I mean, if Bryce had better mobility based on whatever's going on with his injury, even though he says he's all right, I think we can see that that's not exactly true.
• 1:05:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that he might have been able to make some magic
• 1:05:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But he hasn't and I don't know that there's many quarterbacks in the league that's going to be able to handle a 50 to 60% pressure rate in succeed.
• 1:05:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter even if they can handle it for a week.
• 1:05:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It can't handle it for a season.
• 1:05:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't be good at it.
• 1:05:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, my problem with this is that comes forward is, you know, you go from the swing in the momentum.
• 1:06:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think we were searching, we talked about this in the season, the season leading up is that we're searching for optimism.
• 1:06:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And you guys were like, why am I not excited about the priest?
• 1:06:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You're like, why I couldn't get real like just like, oh, I can't, I'm ready for the time.
• 1:06:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I can beat my chest and be like, man, these panthers can win.
• 1:06:19
  [UNKNOWN]: They can win.
• 1:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a taste of something in this first what for, you know, in a couple of games, you know, you saw some often you saw big offense in the Chicago game.
• 1:06:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You saw the man, the Lions game saved everything for us, you know, because it, in some ways, it
• 1:06:38
  [UNKNOWN]: dopamine in a sense because, you know, you didn't do well against Chicago's Cleveland.
• 1:06:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You didn't do terrible either.
• 1:06:48
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, you couldn't just be like Oprah.
• 1:06:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you had Atlanta.
• 1:06:51
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't have their quarterback.
• 1:06:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Who do we play?
• 1:06:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We played Chicago.
• 1:06:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we played
• 1:07:04
  [UNKNOWN]: it was uh... chicago uh... money out in there we play share with the chicago and then we played the browns we played the line yeah because the browns were weak three so you know you're looking at this and then you go oh as like a man just fireworks in week one good enough solid play good play in week two ever you know better you know it's like a game we were seeing these signs of the offensive
• 1:07:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And there were, I mean, look, the defense did things against Cleveland, too.
• 1:07:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like, it was like a little bit on everybody.
• 1:07:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The Detroit game goes, oh, wait, this fucking, we're like, I'm, like, MVP, Bryce, Bryce, is it?
• 1:07:48
  [UNKNOWN]: People are like, you're going to sign the contract.
• 1:07:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Should we make?
• 1:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It's wild to me and I think it's telling.
• 1:07:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not, I'm with C.K.
• 1:07:57
  [UNKNOWN]: here.
• 1:07:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not like, like, Bryce is the issue.
• 1:08:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not like Bryce is a problem.
• 1:08:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not even Bryce, it can't be good.
• 1:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But isn't it in just this three weeks swing that all of a sudden you're like, man, I don't know if the panther's gonna be rocking with any y'all next year.
• 1:08:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's telling to a certain degree, and I would say, again, I'm so tired of this poor Bryce poor Bryce, but how the fuck is he going to do anything?
• 1:08:23
  [UNKNOWN]: How is he going to get that big contract?
• 1:08:27
  [UNKNOWN]: If this team is in, if that offensive line is in shambles, and I'm sure I don't want to have a miracle.
• 1:08:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's going to be a miracle if canalus and Bryce come out at the end of this season and we're like, you know what, these two guys, we believe, and it was everything else that was the problem, let's tool around them, thank you so much.
• 1:08:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, especially if we go eight and nine.
• 1:08:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're supposed to be talking about pain.
• 1:08:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Big quarterback one, you do.
• 1:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to pay a fucking so on this team.
• 1:08:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, like, agreed to disagree.
• 1:09:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I know we have a bunch of fans.
• 1:09:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We even had someone that called into the kind of calls is like,
• 1:09:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Bryce has proved he's a franchise home.
• 1:09:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It is proving I'm like bro I don't know what y'all take to be proof like some good games Okay cool.
• 1:09:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm just not interested in extending anyone on my father See Bryce play on the figure option, but I don't even want to think about it In that shit can he look good against good for like I'm just focused on this year
• 1:09:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Finishing this year as a good as we can and hopefully not be in that place that you talked about Tony where we're just the best of the worst division and we're just staring down our ultimate one and done demise in the playoffs.
• 1:09:50
  [UNKNOWN]: We felt that last year.
• 1:09:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't want to feel that again this year.
• 1:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what have we got?
• 1:09:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Are we done with the Bryce?
• 1:09:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You want to keep going in Bryce or is it time to take some cat calls?
• 1:10:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's just some cat calls.
• 1:10:03
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers 252, 228, 1598, your opportunity chime in was ever a fired before the Green Bay game.
• 1:10:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Should he have been fired two years ago after Dave Canalis's first season, how will Bryce and Dave Canalis respond can the Panthers claw their way out of?
• 1:10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to get your opinions.
• 1:10:25
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers 252, 228, 50, 98.
• 1:10:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So what do your thoughts on cat calling?
• 1:10:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty f***ing shouldn't do that to somebody.
• 1:10:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And how do that make you feel?
• 1:10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, very uncomfortable.
• 1:10:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So how do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 1:10:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels good like, please, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course, and of course.
• 1:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: What's the season that's caught from Spartanburg?
• 1:10:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Kyle.
• 1:11:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Haven't caught in some class two days.
• 1:11:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Tuesday morning again, he or sworn to call and say, you know, if ever, being fired and everything, hopefully it's a good turning point for the organization that starts, you know, actually feeling a competent decent thought being a laugh and like every single statistic.
• 1:11:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think having ever over here for as long as we did, her Carolina in more ways and people realize, you know, I think, because to be honest, our defense does not have any like superstar talent.
• 1:11:40
  [UNKNOWN]: We have decent players, Derek Brown's good, Devon Loix, good.
• 1:11:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, if he was a superstar, the drag was, would he let him walk out of the door.
• 1:11:51
  [UNKNOWN]: J.C. Horn's good, well, what he plays, he's not, you know, I would say is a top 10 by me, you know, which is decent, but there's no superstars, there's no absolute game changers on our defense anywhere.
• 1:12:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But having Evero, I think a lot of our, a lot of the stars we had last, I mean, he didn't play Jeremy Chin because he couldn't find a role for him.
• 1:12:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And Jeremy Chin bounced around ever since, but on our,
• 1:12:19
  [UNKNOWN]: decent before we had a vero, Jeremy Chin was great, I mean he was second, defensive rookie of the year, he was everywhere, you know, Frankie Loulo was flying around the field and I don't think he resigned with us because of ever-row.
• 1:12:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Brian Burns, we offered him basically what he's making in New York, but he didn't want to resign here, which makes sense because the last and he got 17 and a half stacks, which I think he knew he was never going to get here.
• 1:12:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've lost countless amount of players who should have stayed here and said to me that the season is better, but you know, anyone can say, can counter me and say that, oh, the people I just mentioned weren't that good, or the players I mentioned earlier, like Brown, Lloyd, and Foreign are great, but you know, in the big pictures that our defense
• 1:13:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, so it's like we need changes.
• 1:13:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We need to start drastic people who want to stay here.
• 1:13:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Hopefully, you know, I can now have said he made this move to connect the player and that kind of stuff.
• 1:13:29
  [UNKNOWN]: For everyone to feel cohesive, which there was clearly some disconnect, but, you know, I hope all these changes make our team better and everything.
• 1:13:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But, all right, y'all, I hope you all have a good show.
• 1:13:42
  [UNKNOWN]: See ya.
• 1:13:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping that it does make the team better, you know, I think that, again, I've set it from the gigo and I've continued to say it.
• 1:13:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that even if it isn't drastic difference, the fact that we're making different changes,
• 1:14:05
  [UNKNOWN]: to indicate that we're ready to compete still this year is important.
• 1:14:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that it's important to a team, especially to the players when they're putting their heart and soul out there.
• 1:14:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're constantly being the ones how to countable to their own execution, right?
• 1:14:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think if you're not putting your players in the best position to succeed, then I think that doesn't put a great taste in their mouth if I had to guess.
• 1:14:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I am hopeful, the more I do learn about Todd Wash, I think our defense is in good hands.
• 1:14:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they like him for a reason.
• 1:14:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to give more one-on-one matchups rather than depending on people to either double teams.
• 1:14:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is necessary, man.
• 1:14:55
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a addition by subtraction and I'm hoping that our defense can rebound and show what they're made of.
• 1:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: If not in good hands is they're incapable like he's been a coordinator.
• 1:15:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He's had success.
• 1:15:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not his first rodeo.
• 1:15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, you're not, um, what was it when Thomas Brown took over fully, um, It was in the Frank right didn't they fire Frank right at the end.
• 1:15:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And Thomas Brown goes, I mean, it's like, Thomas Brown had never been in that role before completely.
• 1:15:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And arguably, Canalis, not been in a head coach role before, but he had only been a Todd Wash has more experience as a coordinator than Dave Canalis does as an offensive coordinator.
• 1:15:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So at least there's that, let's go to Anthony and Charlotte.
• 1:15:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yo, what's up, C3?
• 1:15:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a hit to me from Charlotte.
• 1:15:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Hope you'll always have a good two-day man.
• 1:15:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry to call in, I hope you guys are doing good.
• 1:16:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, so where do we go with this team now?
• 1:16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of just wanted to get you all thoughts, like, still first in this crappy division.
• 1:16:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The Falcons are inconsistent just like us.
• 1:16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: The Bucks are winning games.
• 1:16:23
  [UNKNOWN]: completing zero passes, the same time good, what do we do?
• 1:16:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Does this team, to Dan Morgan, maybe, you know, we get Philos back, we get Lewis back, we get the corners back, we get some guys back, maybe it can come back at some point.
• 1:16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We try to make a push for this division, maybe trade for an offensive element at the deadline, what do we do?
• 1:16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I feel like that's what Canalist Amherst wants to do.
• 1:16:51
  [UNKNOWN]: because it's ever a firing to me, Nate's no sense when I listen to canalice.
• 1:16:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm happy he's gone, but man, we're just a day late dollar fucking short every time with these decisions, man.
• 1:17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, I could have told you two years ago he needed to go, but that's neither if you nor there.
• 1:17:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But what I listen to Canada's talk, it seems like this was a tepper decision man.
• 1:17:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It seemed like tepper can't ever owe it.
• 1:17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm fine with him stepping in.
• 1:17:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It was about time someone did because no one on this coat he's half front office at urgency at all.
• 1:17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And he finally said, no, fuck this.
• 1:17:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I expected the playoff someone's head got a roll.
• 1:17:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And Canada's is probably next if he doesn't get this turn around man.
• 1:17:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I mean, these players just look so inspired, play with no dog.
• 1:17:35
  [UNKNOWN]: No dog in the mind, I don't know man.
• 1:17:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess we'll see what the rest of the season details.
• 1:17:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But for me, man, I'm just tired of losing.
• 1:17:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm tired with the rebuild mentality.
• 1:17:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm tired of all of them.
• 1:17:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And like, just go out there and win the division.
• 1:17:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You still have enough talent to win this division.
• 1:17:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You really do.
• 1:17:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, everyone in the NFL dealing with injuries.
• 1:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's a rumor going around that there's switching to more of a 4-3 based
• 1:18:06
  [UNKNOWN]: defense, and I think it's not, I don't think everything's going to be a fourth or three.
• 1:18:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I just think like the difference of line fronts and some things may be a little different and it's switched up, but you know, overall came to point about that, but in terms of the team then, I really don't know what to think them.
• 1:18:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to win games, but at the same time, like I would be surprised that this team
• 1:18:37
  [UNKNOWN]: next January.
• 1:18:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So, we'll see what happens.
• 1:18:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I ultimately hope we win this week and beat the Broncos, but now I'm much hoping.
• 1:18:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me your thoughts.
• 1:18:46
  [UNKNOWN]: What does a team, what should a team do at the deadline?
• 1:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's from Charlotte, you motherfuckin' problem.
• 1:18:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So again, this is a question that I feel like we ask every year all the Panthers can be buyers or sellers or all we just stay and put.
• 1:19:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I remember seeing a rumor that the raiders might be interested in training or trading something powers Johnson, Jackson powers Johnson that thing, he's a guard for the raiders.
• 1:19:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how real this is that is, um, I don't know.
• 1:19:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of think the return of Brady Christians in that we're going to talk about in a minute is probably going to be the biggest ringer forcements that we're going to hope to get, but again, then to become the question of, does Brady steady healthy?
• 1:19:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He's also been injured.
• 1:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's going to be the question I'm going forward.
• 1:19:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I told him that that's what I said.
• 1:19:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I wanted to really make it a point to bring up that we have three of the most important offensive line positions that are being maned by new people this year.
• 1:19:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And how
• 1:19:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think one person did you add to this side or that side or at this point or that point is going to change things very differently.
• 1:20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's the same thing for the defense of front, right, and the defense is like
• 1:20:23
  [UNKNOWN]: The Lee hunters in there, you know, to me, it feels like, and I hate to say it and I don't want to because I feel like sometimes we get pegged as like a negative podcast, which I don't care, every, how can you not be us?
• 1:20:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but how can you not be like, damaged mentally being a Panthers fan for the last nine years?
• 1:20:50
  [UNKNOWN]: eight years or whatever it is is when you and and then you come back and I say I'll told you that the first six week five first five weeks are mirage but then that I'm like fuck the Panthers were a complete mirage and to me like
• 1:21:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I'm kind of with Anthony, I lean towards this is that ever a finite firing justified, somebody's head's got a role.
• 1:21:15
  [UNKNOWN]: It should have rolled earlier like he said.
• 1:21:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't think that that's enough sacrifice to the David Tipper altar.
• 1:21:24
  [UNKNOWN]: unless you start finding a way to win.
• 1:21:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't see a magical solution.
• 1:21:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't see adding people.
• 1:21:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but like you don't want to just in the stupid going back to the NFC South CK where like, oh, you're in it.
• 1:21:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You're in the first.
• 1:21:42
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what is like, if you were any other in any other division, you were a seller after last week and certainly after this week.
• 1:21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, nobody would have seen the the the Tampa Bay bugs having the resurgence.
• 1:21:57
  [UNKNOWN]: They have, uh, you know, especially if you would have told me that they weren't able to complete a single pass in a game against the Falcons, like you would have thought that that meant that they were getting destroyed and they're they're out here just finding a way to win.
• 1:22:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They may have figured out the winning formula just generically speaking for any team.
• 1:22:20
  [UNKNOWN]: just keep running the ball.
• 1:22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, um, I'm going to let me pull up.
• 1:22:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me get ready.
• 1:22:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It should be ready.
• 1:22:32
  [UNKNOWN]: See we'll go back in the well.
• 1:22:34
  [UNKNOWN]: This is from Sunday.
• 1:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, this is David.
• 1:22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Superman's couple things I want to say today is first on on offense.
• 1:22:48
  [UNKNOWN]: What I hope they can do is, you know, quote, freely or less tackle, and maybe Sam Hack that's center.
• 1:22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, but the Christians in this healthy planet in my right tackle, and leave on just where he is until maybe Eki gets healthy, if Christians who's not healthy, I put
• 1:23:17
  [UNKNOWN]: to hide hands on the outside too to chip and to help with any of what kind of play it is.
• 1:23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think we would actually help with the time and the sun to wash and bring those corners and encoser but the biggest thing is stop playing the fuzone concept.
• 1:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: two gap, I mean, two gap concepts and a defensive line.
• 1:23:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Reason why the run is so terrible is that these guys are holding two gaps, so they're holding one player, waiting to react to the running back.
• 1:23:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So when they're running back, choose the hole, but at the time the defense alarming can actually tackle that guy, he's already up to the yards of the field, so that's what's adding up.
• 1:24:15
  [UNKNOWN]: rather well than it should look to a five-yard game.
• 1:24:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I said, reacting like that.
• 1:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They should attack the gaps.
• 1:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If they attack the gaps, they're more likely to have zero yard gain and negative yard gain on the running back.
• 1:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be a media fix on the running end.
• 1:24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Then, hopefully, you will do some personal changes.
• 1:24:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe slowly work.
• 1:24:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Nick Scott out.
• 1:24:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And I may be some better corner play, but the biggest thing for me is that dirt and forever on the corners and the gaps system going to be in the line.
• 1:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, guys.
• 1:24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Good timing.
• 1:25:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you make some small adjustments to lessen the pain?
• 1:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Why haven't they done them earlier?
• 1:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Why didn't they do them in game?
• 1:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why I go back to this C.K.
• 1:25:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that ever-row-firing?
• 1:25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: No one's gonna say it's unjust, aren't.
• 1:25:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But here, and this where it continues to me comes back to, like I think this decision was made after Green Bay.
• 1:25:32
  [UNKNOWN]: After Tampa Bay, you mean?
• 1:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Tampa Bay, excuse me, Tampa Bay.
• 1:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Because,
• 1:25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: your offense, your defense now again, Cody would do they ever that people got mad at me for saying this is that the defense gave them a chance to win down the stretch.
• 1:25:51
  [UNKNOWN]: right?
• 1:25:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It did.
• 1:25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It was not good.
• 1:25:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that, but they held them in the Russian attack.
• 1:25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Josh Jacobs looked big, heavy fat, but they did it.
• 1:26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't get any pressures.
• 1:26:03
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, you could say, oh, they didn't get any pressures.
• 1:26:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Green Bay did what they wanted when they wanted at times, but they didn't do what they wanted when they wanted at the end of the game, when they were up, what, 14 or whatever, and panther score and cut it to or they cut it to
• 1:26:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I guess they cut it cut it to eight, they could have cut it to a little less and try but they go for the two point conversion.
• 1:26:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't like going for the two point conversion there, uh, because you don't get it and it felt like it's sacked a little of the momentum, you know, the Panthers go kick the extra point, you know, oh, we just got to go down there, let's save it like we get a touch down.
• 1:26:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But it kind of like sapped a little energy out of that.
• 1:26:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Finally, the Panthers offense did something.
• 1:26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Coker.
• 1:26:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It was Coker and it was all Coker.
• 1:27:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He did this.
• 1:27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It felt like on his own.
• 1:27:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But the defense, what they did do is they stopped the Green Bay Packers, I think, with like 10 minutes left.
• 1:27:12
  [UNKNOWN]: They created a turnover maybe with 10 minutes left.
• 1:27:15
  [UNKNOWN]: They stopped them again with four minutes left.
• 1:27:20
  [UNKNOWN]: they were not the most horrific we've seen CK.
• 1:27:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think that what I'm not using that as an argument to justify that Everrow was bad, bad, good.
• 1:27:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But like they were
• 1:27:35
  [UNKNOWN]: the better unit out of the worst of terrible units.
• 1:27:40
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you go out the next morning and announced this firing, either you're scapegoating or you had already kind of come to this conclusion.
• 1:27:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's the most realistic sense.
• 1:27:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Short week of preparation, let's get in the new guy promote him, let him figure it out, and you give him nine days instead of seven going forward.
• 1:28:02
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I, I, that's what I think it makes the most sense to me.
• 1:28:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, why would you not do it now when you do give yourself the best?
• 1:28:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the minibye they call it right and so I, yeah, I mean, this is absolutely the only answer if you plan to make a change like this.
• 1:28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: at the deadline.
• 1:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just, again, I'm very thankful that they made the choice because I mean, they easily could still be stuck in this idea that the answer is on the roster, the answer is in our coaching staff.
• 1:28:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, Everrow is the guy.
• 1:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He's just, you know, what happened after the book in your scheme, we heard Dave Canalist say it was all on the players.
• 1:28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, without saying it, you know, he was saying it's execution and they, you know,
• 1:28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Almost underhanded.
• 1:28:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It felt like they were, you know, being thrown under the bus when it was clearly a coaching issue in my opinion for what we've seen.
• 1:28:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I'm very happy to see that this change came when it did because I think need some life dude.
• 1:29:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This team needed life.
• 1:29:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that the best way to have done that is do exactly what they did here.
• 1:29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next call.
• 1:29:12
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 1:29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Paul has brothers.
• 1:29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I all don't cheat the boss.
• 1:29:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what's up Jay?
• 1:29:21
  [UNKNOWN]: They fired W. He is out of Kerala line.
• 1:29:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Touch that private chapter.
• 1:29:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to go my opinion, but I am so happy that he is gone.
• 1:29:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm hoping I'm hoping that we switch back to a four or three defense and that for this three four shit.
• 1:29:42
  [UNKNOWN]: the fourth 3D bench.
• 1:29:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That's something the pastor has always played ever since they first came out.
• 1:29:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I am so happy.
• 1:29:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I heard the dude has taken his place.
• 1:29:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You speak the Jacksonville Jack Wars DC back in the day when it was known as Saxonville or whatever.
• 1:30:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I believe
• 1:30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You were the professor, man, and I grew up with you a hundred percent.
• 1:30:13
  [UNKNOWN]: He's cast a two damn nice.
• 1:30:16
  [UNKNOWN]: The two nights with his boy style attitude and everything.
• 1:30:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Cast got to get angry, got to get mad.
• 1:30:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And for all that you go, let me ask you all questions.
• 1:30:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think Dave and Alice is next?
• 1:30:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think he is next?
• 1:30:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I heard Stephen A.
• 1:30:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Say on ESPN.
• 1:30:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, do you think it was a day to Dallas's firing?
• 1:30:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Or you think it was coming from above him?
• 1:30:40
  [UNKNOWN]: was could have been the owner or the GM.
• 1:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: They she wanted, doesn't it?
• 1:30:46
  [UNKNOWN]: How long ago, man?
• 1:30:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Get me just off on that y'all.
• 1:30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep out of there.
• 1:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep out of there.
• 1:30:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, boy, um, I don't know.
• 1:30:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, I'm really thinking that we are going to move towards a four or three before the end of this year is even up.
• 1:31:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of don't think that they're going to feel hamstrone to just be whatever defense that started out as if they feel like they have the ability to transition to something different.
• 1:31:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I actually have a clip.
• 1:31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're interested in Tony, it's a 35 second clip of Todd Wash talking about his defensive philosophy.
• 1:31:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is when he was in Jacksonville.
• 1:31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: One moment.
• 1:31:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We had installed a different front than we've had in the past in our system in the last two years.
• 1:31:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's just guys playing different spots, changing some alignment, but the overall structure of, you're going to see the outside linebacker on the line to spend much more, because that's the skill set of the guys that we had, you know, so it's, everybody's saying that three-four, but if you look at our system in the last two years, we've had three different front families based out of three-four, but don't we consider this a three-four?
• 1:32:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's basically kind of what they were alluding to in Dave Canalist's press conferences that they have outside line backers that they like from a past, Russian perspective that they want to line up on the line and it doesn't feel like that's going to change anytime soon.
• 1:32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, all these hybrid defenses these days, you already mentioned it at the start of the broadcast
• 1:32:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They're all doing different things and little bits of both even playing the next one defense, yeah, but I do think it will be interesting that Even though they're listed as a three four a lot of the line of some might actually be more resembling All day four three even if they do have standing outside linebackers all the line I think one thing is is I don't know how
• 1:33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If it feels like in a fourth ray you can run a nickel you can do all these other things, but in this three four for some reason when you have these however you got to put this fucking defensive in and coverage I don't know what like I don't ever remember going but does everything
• 1:33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony does every tree for you to do this or was this just something that the Vickfengio defense would do and then is very painted up like this is why don't they draft people have turned this in it started with this their edge rusher's they're not defensive ends
• 1:34:07
  [UNKNOWN]: the draft people.
• 1:34:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, edge edge edge edge.
• 1:34:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, what the fuck, why can't you be a defensive end and fucking run around the end like an edge rusher and fucking get the quarterback.
• 1:34:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:34:20
  [UNKNOWN]: The other thing is this is that these three four, then we got to call them outside linebackers.
• 1:34:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Right?
• 1:34:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, no, this bitch is brought here to fucking destroy the quarterback.
• 1:34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know.
• 1:34:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So, oh, outside, and then you're like, oh, they're out there.
• 1:34:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, they're playing edge and people like, no, Tony, you don't know ball.
• 1:34:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They're an outside linebacker.
• 1:34:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know what, this is what you get.
• 1:34:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Outside linebacker has to go out there and do stupid crap.
• 1:34:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But am I wrong in feeling like not every three four is doing this?
• 1:34:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you seeing the Steelers lined up TJ watt and coverage on third down?
• 1:35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like no, I don't buy that that's what a three four is.
• 1:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Now don't hit me wrong.
• 1:35:10
  [UNKNOWN]: If we end up moving away from the three four, I'm happy for it.
• 1:35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I've always felt like the Panthers spiritually were in four or three defense.
• 1:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't know, dude, I just, I don't buy that to run a 34 means that you must drop your outside linebackers back in the coverage.
• 1:35:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And if it is what that means, then we should have moved away from a 34 defense grab area.
• 1:35:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like you've always had to do that, though, is that they always say, well, they have a, like, I remember even peppers, it was like when he went to Green Bay, he played the three four.
• 1:35:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He had to have the, you have to have a certain athleticism to do it.
• 1:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, like maybe not in a coverage as much like maybe against the tight end, or in some sort
• 1:36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's the case.
• 1:36:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But there have been, I think this, I think the three four scheme is so player dependent.
• 1:36:19
  [UNKNOWN]: that you have to have a superstar.
• 1:36:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you can't have you have to have these certain players and if you don't have these certain players, it can't work.
• 1:36:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is the good news is I don't know how much of the transition from a 34 to a 4 3 in the defensive verbage.
• 1:36:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what it's going to be about is like, how do we call the plays?
• 1:36:39
  [UNKNOWN]: How do we call it in to Dev and Lloyd?
• 1:36:42
  [UNKNOWN]: How does he communicate this?
• 1:36:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But I have a theory right now and I just formed it as we're talking and listen these calls.
• 1:36:51
  [UNKNOWN]: If there is a case that it has to be easier to go from a three, four, two, a four, three, if you have enough big body boys, right?
• 1:37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: then it is easier to go from a mid-season.
• 1:37:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Imagine if you had you fired your defensive coordinator and they were a fourth-three guy and you were like, you brought in the interim guy was like, man, I'm a three-four guy.
• 1:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I would think that's far more complicated.
• 1:37:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like the three-four is a fragile defense.
• 1:37:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you can work so great.
• 1:37:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But boy, if it doesn't work perfect, it is screwed up.
• 1:37:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So maybe I was wrong in thinking that the Panthers can't adapt to this and say, look, we've got Derek Brown.
• 1:37:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got Bobby Brown the third.
• 1:37:39
  [UNKNOWN]: We've got these guys that are big boys in the middle.
• 1:37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Jail of Phillips can work in a three, three, four, but I'm a little bit mealin' is not good enough to play.
• 1:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, or not, I won't say not good enough.
• 1:37:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm actually fed up with that kid.
• 1:37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I ain't gonna, I'll save it.
• 1:37:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I fed up.
• 1:38:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you know he said he believes he's the best pass rusher in the league playing on this fucking defense.
• 1:38:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you have to have that provider, but he's also kind of for, I mean, not for now.
• 1:38:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you should say, I can be, I believe I can be.
• 1:38:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I am the best bass rusher.
• 1:38:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He said it in our view with what's the Kristen Bell Boney.
• 1:38:25
  [UNKNOWN]: That a here.
• 1:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody's the best at anything on the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:38:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go ahead and put that down.
• 1:38:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me that.
• 1:38:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me what the
• 1:38:37
  [UNKNOWN]: No, nothing.
• 1:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:38:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to Luke from Forest City.
• 1:38:43
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up, y'all?
• 1:38:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's leave this from Bar City.
• 1:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: When we talk about the game, we got this coming Sunday against Denver y'all.
• 1:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: But when the schedule came out, I circle this game.
• 1:38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really excited about us playing Denver.
• 1:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only is it a Super Bowl rematch, kind of like a little NSC software union with all Shawn Titan.
• 1:39:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Man.
• 1:39:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I cannot stand that bastard growing up.
• 1:39:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Every time we played that joker, him and Drew Breeze would always just find a way to sneak out a win and I just cannot stand them.
• 1:39:21
  [UNKNOWN]: He's one of those people, I just do not like it all.
• 1:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And then put the cherry on top or playing Denver.
• 1:39:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I know every pan to fans, it's still like salt to the one about Super Bowl 50, nothing will make me happier than beating the Denver Broncos on Sunday, keep pounding, go Panthers.
• 1:39:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Little revenge.
• 1:39:44
  [UNKNOWN]: How many times?
• 1:39:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe we could be always lose to the Broncos.
• 1:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't, it isn't just me.
• 1:39:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like there's a couple of teams and we always lose to.
• 1:39:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like the Broncos.
• 1:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I wanted those teams and I feel like the Minnesota Vikings are one of those teams and we have a chance to be both of them, but I don't know.
• 1:40:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
• 1:40:11
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:40:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Next call.
• 1:40:28
  [UNKNOWN]: he is outta here, about time.
• 1:40:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, let's see what Todd Washington do as an interim.
• 1:40:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, honestly, I mean, please, and I'm not expecting much this year.
• 1:40:41
  [UNKNOWN]: How about y'all, though?
• 1:40:42
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I do have a question, though, what does have been so many players that we acquire for three, four schemes?
• 1:40:51
  [UNKNOWN]: What is the chance of us having success this year, own defense under Todd Wash?
• 1:40:58
  [UNKNOWN]: the y'all think that you know that wash would be able to come up with some concepts to help disguise advantage or put a put in place of disguise advantage when it comes to different offenses that we play.
• 1:41:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying like offenses may not know if it's a wash concept or ever-row concept but I do got a short you know a short synopsis man and I don't know if I can
• 1:41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I was listening in the days can now listen as presser.
• 1:41:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And he was saying that when they asked him a question, why now, he was saying that he needed the gather more information.
• 1:41:42
  [UNKNOWN]: That was, which I think is just ridiculous, man.
• 1:41:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm with you.
• 1:41:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm with you.
• 1:41:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Show those that can now listen is kind of incompetent.
• 1:41:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, how much information do we need to gather outside of the fact that we've had the worst deep in it since 2023?
• 1:41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: but anybody is to hope they'll give me all thoughts on all this.
• 1:42:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding.
• 1:42:01
  [UNKNOWN]: That stood out to me too, Hope Dealer.
• 1:42:03
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like, he said, I couldn't pinpoint the moment.
• 1:42:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I couldn't pinpoint the moment.
• 1:42:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I just like, and then I was like, why don't you do it?
• 1:42:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, how to gather more information.
• 1:42:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, while it may sound on the face and competent,
• 1:42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if anything, it's more, as I tried to think about that and I was like listening through it and I was like, what the hell, it continued to bring me back to CK's point of this happened after Tampa.
• 1:42:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So you didn't want to say we fired him after, we're like, this was going to happen after Tampa.
• 1:42:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think it makes them incompetent.
• 1:42:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it might make them soft.
• 1:42:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I feel like canalice, I mean, and I don't know what it's like, but we know happy smiley canalice, go get them guys.
• 1:42:56
  [UNKNOWN]: You say everything's going to be great.
• 1:42:57
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to, let's just do better.
• 1:43:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to like the process and I feel like he was probably scared to walk in ever as office and he's like, you know, like you could see him like going in there.
• 1:43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go in there and tell him what I think we should do on this defense to be like, you know what I might do after lunch.
• 1:43:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, like I need to gather more data gather more information is what does that say about the leadership The fact that you believe that one the fact that you believe that Tony and to the fact that we're all sitting here feeling like
• 1:43:33
  [UNKNOWN]: pretty believable.
• 1:43:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, so I don't know, man, that doesn't speak well towards, um, I think the culture that's being built here in this locker room.
• 1:43:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, I had to just think culture, culture, culture, but um, it does bear repeating.
• 1:43:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, Tony, do you want to knock a couple of these slides out and then finish the calls out?
• 1:44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, let's do one more call.
• 1:44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, do you want to make some power like that?
• 1:44:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Do it!
• 1:44:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And then that's going to react to us.
• 1:44:15
  [UNKNOWN]: The amount of our weighted dismissal of one of your zero or a bearer.
• 1:44:22
  [UNKNOWN]: My dad woke me up to tell me that your a bearer has been fired.
• 1:44:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was out of the way, and I was like, hey, I felt my eyes went right back to bed.
• 1:44:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I slept like a rock.
• 1:44:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And look, I know what it's like to lose a job because, you know, I'm currently laid off.
• 1:44:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But at least I can say, I didn't lose my job because I sucked in it.
• 1:44:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, there was here to say that.
• 1:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, I'll give them to you now, it's credit, I don't know.
• 1:45:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It is a hard thing to do.
• 1:45:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, it would have been a hot take because the, because we actually did make the playoffs and run back.
• 1:45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, it would have been, it would have been really unpopular for him to do it.
• 1:45:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, not unpopular, but you know, if we owe them a year and we gave them 50 nine Chicago, we still gave them a certain number of points to Chicago.
• 1:45:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You would have had a role, you shouldn't have fired a jail of arrow for it, you wouldn't play it up, or you wouldn't play it up game, but I'm glad that he eventually did find a arrow for it.
• 1:45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what I had coach asked to do, and Well, that offensive line is asked.
• 1:45:52
  [UNKNOWN]: That from this week's canalism, I think this is extensive leisure a little bit.
• 1:46:04
  [UNKNOWN]: this team, the victory.
• 1:46:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You've got to coach this team above the some of its parts.
• 1:46:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's kind of in the way that Steve Wilkes did when he was here.
• 1:46:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, guys.
• 1:46:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow!
• 1:46:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow!
• 1:46:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, again, I think this is a moment where the Carolina Panthers can decide what kind of season they want to have if you want to make something of this season, uh, this is the point where you turn it around and you try and do something about it, man.
• 1:46:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, but we will see, I don't know how likely that is.
• 1:46:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We have to find some fight.
• 1:46:50
  [UNKNOWN]: We have to find some fighting these dogs or get some new dogs to join the fight.
• 1:46:57
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• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:10
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• 1:47:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack, what's the next in the show?
• 1:47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So the minute a zero of arrow gets fired.
• 1:47:24
  [UNKNOWN]: All of the Carolina Panthers get some sense of being.
• 1:47:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I don't know how much of you don't or do know what the sense of being is.
• 1:47:34
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the legendary beings in Dragon Balls that you pop on and it doesn't matter if you're on the brink of death.
• 1:47:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You come up healthy because boys, it looks like we can be here with some players back.
• 1:47:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Joe Persian reported today, Jalen Phillips and J.C. Horn were both working on the side.
• 1:47:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't see Damian Lewis, but AJ Dylan is also back to practicing.
• 1:48:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Also, we learned after I made this graphic that might Jackson.
• 1:48:07
  [UNKNOWN]: is also coming back.
• 1:48:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So pick that.
• 1:48:09
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not not coming back.
• 1:48:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Hold on.
• 1:48:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's be this is that they're working on the side on the market.
• 1:48:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my God.
• 1:48:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my God.
• 1:48:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my God.
• 1:48:19
  [UNKNOWN]: On the side, working on the side, working on the side, white still working on the side for if not to come back.
• 1:48:27
  [UNKNOWN]: They're working on the side.
• 1:48:29
  [UNKNOWN]: They're working.
• 1:48:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They're working.
• 1:48:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They're going back.
• 1:48:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, gosh.
• 1:48:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Have they been ruled out for Denver?
• 1:48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, you know what is you'll start to find out tomorrow and Thursday.
• 1:48:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We will, but I feel like on the side that means they're not playing.
• 1:48:46
  [UNKNOWN]: If they're practicing, somebody's got to practice by Thursday.
• 1:48:51
  [UNKNOWN]: A full practice or that means they're not playing.
• 1:48:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Sorry, I will they are riding the exercise bike Don't you think it sounds like I'm saying come back for this game Say come back I'm saying come back I was in at this point.
• 1:49:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a fucking season Okay, yeah, it's like Okay, like they're like this can be me 12
• 1:49:14
  [UNKNOWN]: 13.
• 1:49:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're dead.
• 1:49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That means that Jason one's coming back at week 12.
• 1:49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: If you saw you're working on the side.
• 1:49:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: No, there's no way.
• 1:49:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 1:49:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's I don't know the exact deadline.
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is I would be most excited about AJ Dylan.
• 1:49:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, Jaylin Phillips, that mug needs to play.
• 1:49:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He's getting all the money.
• 1:49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like a, there's no surgery, like it's a hamstring.
• 1:49:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we ain't asking you to run 40s out there, bro.
• 1:49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what I don't understand.
• 1:49:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, oh, I got a bad hammy and I'm a defensive Russia.
• 1:50:02
  [UNKNOWN]: like, I mean, I'm not, imagine if you said I can't start.
• 1:50:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a bad, I got a bad hammy and I'm a, uh, uh, uh, the center.
• 1:50:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe I guess maybe you do put a lot of power in your legs and things like, maybe it could be a hindrance, but I always feel like the hammies are like, oh, that just screwed this wide receiver for two years or something like this.
• 1:50:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, if I'm ranking the people that I think are going to come back first, it's Jail and Phil is an AJ Dylan and, um, horn and Mike Jack are to me, hopeful, hopeful, are you really uplifted by this Cody?
• 1:50:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, them over there riding a bicycle?
• 1:50:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You're like, oh, these guys are back.
• 1:50:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd rather than be back than invisible in some room getting getting worked on.
• 1:50:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, it's a better sign.
• 1:50:57
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 1:50:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They were about to play this.
• 1:51:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Who do you want on a playing corner?
• 1:51:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Marco Wilson or JC Horr?
• 1:51:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I'll take JC Horr.
• 1:51:09
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, these guys, if they're coming back and they're working on the side,
• 1:51:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't want to talk about you in four weeks coming back.
• 1:51:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Why are you on the sign line now?
• 1:51:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Take your ass back inside.
• 1:51:24
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're not in your work clothes, this is the part of the of the season where we have to fight to stay ahead of this division.
• 1:51:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're gonna pull work on the sign lines for years.
• 1:51:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, let me ask you this.
• 1:51:39
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. And then we'll, and then Cody, you answer it right after.
• 1:51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, if you could have one of these guys this week against Denver, who would have been like I mean and just say they were kind of good to go right like it's not like you got to worry about it like if you can pick one player to make this team out of jail and Phillips JC horn Mike Jack, Damien Lewis or AJ Dylan, who would you pick and I almost want to say can't pick Damien Lewis, but you can if you want.
• 1:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm going to go my Jack or I'm sorry, uh, uh, I might go jacy horn.
• 1:52:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Not because I feel like this entire year, they haven't thrown it him not a single time when he was planet.
• 1:52:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a this entire year.
• 1:52:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It was short as can be, right?
• 1:52:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but like for three games, they didn't target him once.
• 1:52:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm going to say jail of Phillips.
• 1:52:37
  [UNKNOWN]: do we pay to all that fucking money and now we've got rid of a barrel and get back to that.
• 1:52:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's your watch with what the most this week.
• 1:52:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and by the way, like, are we going to see different levels of production from these and dressers?
• 1:52:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do shout out to your bastards on my chocolate expressel.
• 1:52:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But he's for lack of a better term always said that past rushers come to a various defense to die, meaning that they don't have primary past rushers in a various defense.
• 1:53:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So we're just they don't do well even.
• 1:53:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so it's not, but that's the point, the defense is not benefited to actually accentuate what they do well.
• 1:53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's disappointing.
• 1:53:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you think that could have an effect on what we're seeing going forward with Phillips?
• 1:53:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And even princely, and Patrick Jones, like, what does this mean and how our editors are asked to rush?
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think for me, it's like a coin flip.
• 1:53:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I say we couldn't pick Damian Lewis because they haven't seen him, but he's been the only good person on the offensive one.
• 1:53:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'd rather have him than anybody in a sense.
• 1:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Jamlin Phillips though, like,
• 1:53:59
  [UNKNOWN]: like you need that spark like if he could come out and just have a big game yeah so i'm i'm coin flipping between those two um and i guess i'm rolling the dice because we're playing what's his fucking name uh for the next phone next uh water could be a problem though
• 1:54:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Waddle is a deep threat problem for this for any team, but I don't know if you just put a big corner on him all of a sudden it can just take it away.
• 1:54:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I might be leaning to where you're at Cody Jalen Phillips.
• 1:54:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so, man.
• 1:54:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We need to come to do something big.
• 1:54:48
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 1:54:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this the most important healthy player that we're talking about getting back?
• 1:54:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that it might be a very Christian tune.
• 1:55:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone knows I'm a fan, designated to return from injured, reserve,
• 1:55:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers have officially opened the 21-day practice window for veteran offensive lineman.
• 1:55:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Breyer Christian, who's been injured, sends to the began of the season.
• 1:55:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, this designation means that Carolina can add Christians in to the fifth of German roster at any time.
• 1:55:26
  [UNKNOWN]: The former dirt round draft pick is a jack of all trades on the line.
• 1:55:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Having played guards center and tackle throughout his panthers career.
• 1:55:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Christian suffered a torn and kill this tendon midway through the 2020 five season after playing eight games and starting for His health is strong.
• 1:55:46
  [UNKNOWN]: His fit is ready to go Dave canal is said yesterday But we've got to get some football under his belt here, so that would be a good addition to the group to evaluate where you can help us Potentially
• 1:56:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, is this where all roads lead to Christians in starting on this line this year?
• 1:56:09
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think this, well, maybe starting.
• 1:56:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's the way on the line.
• 1:56:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Too little too late.
• 1:56:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this could be in a sense problematic for your Brady Christians in argument, right?
• 1:56:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Is because you have stumped for him for years, and then you're going to put him in a bad situation on a kind of like a short note, he's coming off of two injuries in a sense.
• 1:56:44
  [UNKNOWN]: right like he had a major injury last year then something else set him back because they signed him.
• 1:56:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's going to be the savior.
• 1:56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And I almost feel bad for him because he's coming into a place where he needs to be like there's going to be so much pressure on him.
• 1:57:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Not on him like as a pressure like you can't handle the pressure but like it's like if you don't change the fucking move the needle Then you weren't any good from the beginning so I feel like he could be a patty
• 1:57:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But my question to you, Cody.
• 1:57:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I asked this earlier and let's go ahead and pull up the next slide.
• 1:57:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's the next one, the depth chart.
• 1:57:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Because when we were debating the Bureau of Fireing and whether or not when it happened, why it happens, if it deserved to happen, all of that, we all agree that, okay, it's justified.
• 1:57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's not enough.
• 1:57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: This Carolina Panthers team on the offense has to correct, re-traject some way.
• 1:58:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know if not this one, the next one, let's put the offensive line when up.
• 1:58:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we got the offensive side?
• 1:58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if just trying out look, this is the current released depth chart by the Carolina Panthers Rashid Walker left tackle Damian Lewis who is hurt now.
• 1:58:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So that means Cory Bullock is going to be up in there.
• 1:58:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke Fortner still won Robert Hunt Monroe Freeland.
• 1:58:29
  [UNKNOWN]: is trotting out the same offensive one.
• 1:58:32
  [UNKNOWN]: When is it time to adjust on the offense and how do you adjust on this offensive line and Cody, I don't know your cameras are so you're still there.
• 1:58:44
  [UNKNOWN]: with Christians in him mind, how do you juggle like do you juggle?
• 1:58:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you try to like because for me at this point like I don't give a shit like just puts like we got nine days to get get Sam heck up on the calls, give him practice.
• 1:59:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm already moving him to center.
• 1:59:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Some people are talking about Brady Christians that where are this Brady how do they juggle this line and where does Brady Christians fit into it?
• 1:59:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm telling you what, if I continue to see Rashid Walker stepping on Bryce Young's foot uh, just getting just being rushed.
• 1:59:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
• 1:59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get back into Bryce Young's life.
• 1:59:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Just being absolutely beaten like a salvation army drum.
• 1:59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done with it.
• 1:59:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see Christians in that position and I another player that would keep on mentioning Robert Hunt.
• 1:59:38
  [UNKNOWN]: What the fuck do we pay you for, bro?
• 1:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If you don't get your shit together, I might be wanting to see Christians in that right guard.
• 1:59:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time to do better than whatever the fuck we've been doing.
• 1:59:50
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, what do you, if you were, and I said you can report, you had to make a replacement.
• 1:59:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I am I am David Tepper and I've stepped in and I said I need you to start Brady Christians in on this offensive line.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't give a fuck where it's at.
• 2:00:09
  [UNKNOWN]: by the way, this is a photo of Rashid Marker's stepping on brush.
• 2:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay, we got it.
• 2:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's from a necessary blot and it's where he says it's like the fifth time.
• 2:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I don't tap and way more this.
• 2:00:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:00:22
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got the bad guys.
• 2:00:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got the bad guys.
• 2:00:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He fucking sucks.
• 2:00:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You're going to have a left tackle stepping on the foot of your quarterback.
• 2:00:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Just do you know why he was stepping on the coin?
• 2:00:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's what you're worried about.
• 2:00:37
  [UNKNOWN]: because he was getting the fucking bulldozed back to the port of the problem.
• 2:00:41
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, but not yet.
• 2:00:42
  [UNKNOWN]: It's definitely just like, oh, I don't know where I was at.
• 2:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I stepped on his foot.
• 2:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He was getting bull rushing.
• 2:00:49
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't give a fuck where the reason was.
• 2:00:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The problem is that I was escaping is my point.
• 2:00:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're a fan.
• 2:00:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I was fucking free away from my fucking quarterback.
• 2:01:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It's that simple.
• 2:01:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You're missing my point.
• 2:01:03
  [UNKNOWN]: It is the consequence.
• 2:01:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No, the flip step is the consequence of the bull rush.
• 2:01:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Correct.
• 2:01:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of of the other problems that happen to us.
• 2:01:14
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it isn't.
• 2:01:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just stupid.
• 2:01:19
  [UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If it didn't fucking suck, it wouldn't be stepping on Bryce's foot.
• 2:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: That's right.
• 2:01:26
  [UNKNOWN]: If it didn't suck, it wouldn't be being bull rush all the time.
• 2:01:31
  [UNKNOWN]: to do sucks, and don't want it, or they have that tackle.
• 2:01:35
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, I don't even want to get into this, because it's just stupid internet shit to me.
• 2:01:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We found out that it's stupid.
• 2:01:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Why?
• 2:01:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Because the problem is, it's not like he is a habitual footsteper for no reason.
• 2:01:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a habitual getting his ass beat.
• 2:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's just show the clip of him getting beat that then lead to the footstep.
• 2:01:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not like, imagine if you're like this, we're sitting
• 2:02:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No, we're not sitting you for that.
• 2:02:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We are trading you out because you got beat like a fucking drum twice every day.
• 2:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time we're not even arguing.
• 2:02:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The reason why I thought it was not the reason why I thought it was not the positionism.
• 2:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: The reason why there's an opposition to step on is because it has been beaten
• 2:02:33
  [UNKNOWN]: We're mid-hour number three of the C3 Panthers podcast, Rashid Walker bench because he steps on Bryce Young's feet, not because he sucks.
• 2:02:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But because he's not bad, dancer.
• 2:02:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he's not good because he's not good dancer.
• 2:02:55
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he's not good dancer.
• 2:02:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This is sensationalism when it's literally proving the point that if you're getting beaten so bad, then you're close enough to your quarterbacks foot to step on it.
• 2:03:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You probably shouldn't be in that job.
• 2:03:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not simple, man.
• 2:03:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Why don't you just show them get beat?
• 2:03:16
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the fucking Twitter verse and you know what and I will put this and look I like a necessary button as I don't got nothing But like to me, this is just hyper internet shit is like look at this Five times we've seen well, you know what we've seen 46 times him getting beat like a fucking drum
• 2:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I mean, if you like this, if you don't want this thing and that isn't going to be my teacher off the screen, please.
• 2:03:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it isn't on the screen.
• 2:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It isn't going to be fine.
• 2:03:48
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm doing it.
• 2:03:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 2:03:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Off the screen for me.
• 2:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, Cody.
• 2:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't change anything.
• 2:03:53
  [UNKNOWN]: C-C-C-A, please.
• 2:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely nothing.
• 2:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Take care.
• 2:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me ask you this.
• 2:03:58
  [UNKNOWN]: David Teper walks in.
• 2:04:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He says, No, not happy about way things.
• 2:04:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to tell you what to do.
• 2:04:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:04:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Kind of like the ever a day.
• 2:04:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But no, you have to make one change on this offensive line and Brady Christians in has to start.
• 2:04:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You're the your Dave can Alice whoever it is that makes this come in.
• 2:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: He makes the call.
• 2:04:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 2:04:23
  [UNKNOWN]: out of that list down, please pull back up the depth chart.
• 2:04:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So we can see who is listed as the starting five.
• 2:04:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go ahead and say Damian Lewis is either and or I mean, court book is not been bad.
• 2:04:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Who do you take out?
• 2:04:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you swap here?
• 2:04:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:04:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I use the guy that's free.
• 2:04:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The answer here.
• 2:04:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:04:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Finally.
• 2:04:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:04:54
  [UNKNOWN]: My answer is I'm swapping out Walker, moving and row freely into the left tackle position and putting Christians in it right tackle.
• 2:05:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's smart.
• 2:05:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's a smart smart.
• 2:05:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Because Christians in has had
• 2:05:07
  [UNKNOWN]: he's been at the right tackle for us before I think and he's had no yes he has he's had reps at all positions he's had more reps at some positions you wouldn't think like you'd be like I mean we got to I heard it somewhere I don't know if it was a radio ever heard it I do think that he is more familiar with the right tackle position because remember that like every
• 2:05:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And nobody was ever ever, but yeah, but they didn't and they did only when there was like a complete meltdown in injury to get I think that's the wisest thing to do here.
• 2:05:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I do think there might be
• 2:05:58
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, Cody, what would be your solution?
• 2:06:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You heard CK's, you give it and give me yours.
• 2:06:05
  [UNKNOWN]: David Teper gives you a mandate.
• 2:06:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Brady Christians and has to start.
• 2:06:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I will not tell you where, but what are you doing?
• 2:06:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't disagree with CK.
• 2:06:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think.
• 2:06:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing that I'll be worried about is that Freeling has been asked to play right tackle all year, and then just to say, okay, hey, now you play left, and you're gonna do it in a week's time.
• 2:06:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that could end up going bad, and I don't want us to ruin my real Freeling out and left tackle.
• 2:06:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with I think that's a legitimate thing to yeah, like I feel like C. K's is the most chess answer like if things work right.
• 2:06:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I do understand that so I'm feeling new but continue.
• 2:06:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, other than that, there really isn't another change that I would make.
• 2:07:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, to me, it's just whatever gets a machine walker out of the left tackle.
• 2:07:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I know, again, it probably won't happen.
• 2:07:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't mind even just to continue the continuity that you've built.
• 2:07:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't even mind taking walker out of the left tackle and putting Christians in the left tackle.
• 2:07:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, my answer would be this and it's kind of ambiance, the exact same, but I like what Cody saying to CK.
• 2:07:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would almost go to Monday, row freely and say, look, we're making changes.
• 2:07:40
  [UNKNOWN]: We know you act, we ask you to play right tackle.
• 2:07:44
  [UNKNOWN]: We draft to you play left tackle.
• 2:07:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You choose this week.
• 2:07:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Would you rather stay at this right tackle position this week?
• 2:07:53
  [UNKNOWN]: or would you rather shift to left tackle?
• 2:07:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You're doing one of the other.
• 2:07:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You have to choose.
• 2:08:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you feel like you would do better, staying at right tackle will force I'll make ready Christians and play left tackle.
• 2:08:10
  [UNKNOWN]: If you feel like you could do as well as you are, which has been great at left tackle,
• 2:08:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we'll make Brady Christians and play right tackle.
• 2:08:24
  [UNKNOWN]: My caveat is this fucking, I'm playing Sam Heck.
• 2:08:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
• 2:08:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done with the loop for, I'm done with loop for dinner.
• 2:08:34
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy has been trashed this year.
• 2:08:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He's terrible.
• 2:08:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it has not been a Journalist experiment.
• 2:08:42
  [UNKNOWN]: The journey man, journey somewhere else.
• 2:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what do we do?
• 2:08:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We knew that this guy was bad, right?
• 2:08:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he was good.
• 2:08:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And like he was bad for a few years early in his career.
• 2:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Then he had one, I think, decent year.
• 2:08:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Miami got went to New Orleans and had like kind of that older man.
• 2:09:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Not older man, but like veteran.
• 2:09:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Renaissance to a cent like he became up like he was not bad in New Orleans.
• 2:09:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But he was and when I say that too, I'm also just looking at statistical rankings.
• 2:09:22
  [UNKNOWN]: like I have no idea like I didn't just go like watch Luke Fortner tape.
• 2:09:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I just saw, oh, he was 20, he was 17th in this.
• 2:09:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He was like, I mean, I just trusted these stupid heads.
• 2:09:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But guess what?
• 2:09:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He fucking sucks here.
• 2:09:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
• 2:09:40
  [UNKNOWN]: He's terrible.
• 2:09:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't all the sudden thing.
• 2:09:43
  [UNKNOWN]: What we had argued or not, we, I had argued is that you, I think Cody had said, why don't you make this
• 2:09:53
  [UNKNOWN]: um, when was it?
• 2:09:55
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, I think before the, uh, I think it was before the Detroit game, Cody was like screw this motherfucker.
• 2:10:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:10:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Who?
• 2:10:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And Fortner.
• 2:10:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was going into the Lions game and are, and I'm pretty sure it's a game now or kind of on the same page is like,
• 2:10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: want to push the rookie up but don't push him up against this great like in this moment on Sunday night football.
• 2:10:31
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're going to push him up, push him up against the eagles when you have a buy week and they're coming off of an international game.
• 2:10:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're going to push them heck up at any point in the season.
• 2:10:46
  [UNKNOWN]: If you have, what you should mugs, you should have questions about Luke Fortner, you have the many buy a C. K. This is the moment.
• 2:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think we're going to lose institutional knowledge with Luke Fortner.
• 2:11:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Luke Fortner has been fucking.
• 2:11:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This offense of line has not been good enough about like, oh, we can't lose our center.
• 2:11:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He's calling out the protections.
• 2:11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if he has been, that mug ain't called out shit.
• 2:11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We had this problem last year, CK, when we had Austin Corbett as the center and it should have been CK'd made and it took an injury before they even put CK'd in that role.
• 2:11:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I think that the center position is so underrated.
• 2:11:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe not, I think it is pretty well valued, but I think we've seen this a lot with our center position over the past few years where when we don't have a solid center, it's like the chain, like the connection between this offensive line is completely lost.
• 2:11:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And I do agree, I mean, I think he's been the only piece in this offense that has been there every single game for the most part of I'm not mistaken.
• 2:11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: That the problem with that is like him and Walker him and Walker have been terrible Both of them yeah, very tired.
• 2:12:03
  [UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
• 2:12:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So Are you guys talking about this?
• 2:12:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's important to me.
• 2:12:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's talk about it The Angela Hall
• 2:12:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Dental host Panthers return comes with an immediate trial by fire the killing of Panthers Fire the Jeroville and Pascal coordinator Jonathan Kooley Todd Wash is now running the show and changes haven't taken long to arrive
• 2:12:36
  [UNKNOWN]: in the surprising jet and tree can move the pants that have appointed the angel hall as the new corner backs coach with cool and no longer around.
• 2:12:44
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the second state in Carolina after spending time with the franchise previously.
• 2:12:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It was among the high and profile arrivals under Frank Rex, supposed that all stars sat up in 2003.
• 2:12:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, the coach lasted 11 games before
• 2:13:05
  [UNKNOWN]: uh, the end of the whole now months galvanized and depleted Carolina Panthers corner unit when hand coach can Alice replace right he kept defense staff in place then included hall but he was only last one more season before parting ways with the organization now all this back after almost a two-year absence his quick return suggested decision to fire him in the first place
• 2:13:35
  [UNKNOWN]: The Hall's credentials in no introduction is familiar with some players and coaches should make the transition seamless.
• 2:13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me, okay, what were your thoughts on this move of bringing back the Angela Hall?
• 2:13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: When was he fired technically?
• 2:13:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I was under, I misheard this story then.
• 2:14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I misheard this story.
• 2:14:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I know he joined, he joined in 2023 his first year coaching, right?
• 2:14:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and this is actually the Carolina Panthers allowed just 171 passing yards per game, lowest single season in franchise history.
• 2:14:19
  [UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
• 2:14:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, tell me, again, read it back to me.
• 2:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: or did he have a second step?
• 2:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So when when Dave can now is replaced right, he kept the defense of staff in place, then included hall, but he would only last one more season before partying ways with the organization.
• 2:14:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So in the years that we gave up 2024, he was approved.
• 2:14:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And before when we gave up 2025,
• 2:14:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was, and this makes it seem like it was an railroad choice to even fire a hole the first time with him bringing him back.
• 2:15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, yeah, well, guys again, no, I mean, I still find like the conversation surrounding why why he like why we brought him back and the fact that they've can Alice has those comments about him, you know, being willing to be a voice of, um, you know, somebody who's willing to challenge the people above him.
• 2:15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the thing right there that kind of stuck out.
• 2:15:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, dude, it's more than kind of stuck out.
• 2:15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, that's a sore thumma and a half right there, dude.
• 2:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: This is kind of where I think it was this story, or those words that kind of push me to the idea that Everrow is difficult to work with.
• 2:16:04
  [UNKNOWN]: believes, and you know what, I respect people that have confidence.
• 2:16:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're in that business right there.
• 2:16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You got to believe in yourself more than anybody because that business is going to true through you like a meat grinder.
• 2:16:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And interestingly, Everrow survived the meat grinder way longer than he should have, right?
• 2:16:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, think about these other teams or other organizations.
• 2:16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would argue, so is Bryce, so as Dave can now is, so Everrow, right?
• 2:16:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, the not for a long league does not usually give you long, and Everrow got a lot
• 2:16:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Then I won't say he was deserved, but then, but is normal, but this now hearing, this subtle thing is,
• 2:17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He challenges the status quo and the other thing is that he said, I believe that Dave can now say, he's like, he has technique things that he truly believes in and then you hear about.
• 2:17:20
  [UNKNOWN]: kind of like how everro and canalice interacted to me almost and I'm not saying that just because you are a young spunky new coach that you get to be like this is how it's done this is like you shouldn't just challenge your bosses necessarily not challenge but be like fuck you this is I'm a player I'm a player right
• 2:17:45
  [UNKNOWN]: If felt like to me as Evaro is I am the top dog, I'm the smartest in the pack, I'm the alpha and you know what you do as I say.
• 2:17:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 2:17:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And do you think C. K?
• 2:18:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Then bringing D. Angelou Hall.
• 2:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: and the immediate wake, immediate.
• 2:18:09
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't bring them in next week.
• 2:18:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't bring them in two weeks later.
• 2:18:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They fired a giro ever row on Friday and brought the Angela Hall in on Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday.
• 2:18:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that a little FU to a giro?
• 2:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that a little, like, what is this?
• 2:18:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that a little, um,
• 2:18:33
  [UNKNOWN]: political maneuvering like I mean what is this is the angel of all being used as a little pawn to be like ever was the problem no i mean i i i i
• 2:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they would be petty to that to me.
• 2:18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they have you not seen politics.
• 2:18:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying this.
• 2:18:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he did.
• 2:18:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you look at Dave Canalis and think that that's that he would be a petty guy and that like he kept Evaro way longer than he should have right?
• 2:19:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think this I think this higher means that maybe they weren't Lee was scared to tell Evaro not to fire him.
• 2:19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, either that or I like, in my opinion, what it means is that they realized that whatever O was doing wasn't working and if there was somebody who was challenging him, maybe it's worth bringing that person back in to see if they have something better to offer.
• 2:19:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that that's, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, looking at it from that perspective.
• 2:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: If I would much rather have our defensive cornerbacks coach, be somebody who is arguably
• 2:19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, let me see.
• 2:19:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you.
• 2:19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got 43 career interceptions of anonymous taken.
• 2:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He's still, he still holds the NFL record for the most interceptions in the single game.
• 2:19:59
  [UNKNOWN]: 14 seasons three year pro bowler, um, 43.
• 2:20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, 43 interceptions, three pro bowls, 14 seasons.
• 2:20:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's not, you know, the problem.
• 2:20:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm,
• 2:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: is he was a falcon, yeah, like Jesus, and who can teach you better how to be better than like their opponent?
• 2:20:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No, um, I just think this is like, I hope it's not a signal that Dave can now
• 2:20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I think that's exactly what it means.
• 2:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And I told you earlier, I think, and now this wanted to designate the entirety of the defense to a barrel, because it was one less than to hear.
• 2:20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was fair to not do.
• 2:20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Also, I don't think he ever wanted to.
• 2:21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he just did this.
• 2:21:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he was like, oh, I'm a new head coach This defense was pretty good statistically.
• 2:21:08
  [UNKNOWN]: They've been drafted in these people He's a coordinator that's had more experience than me.
• 2:21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he didn't believe enough to say you know what ever You gotta go
• 2:21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Or maybe he's just fucking made a mistake and thought things were going to trend upward and believe that it very well is eventually going to make good on his promises.
• 2:21:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I would believe that if C.K.
• 2:21:32
  [UNKNOWN]: and I had not said this is that the first year Dave can else was head coach, the fucking defense was horrific.
• 2:21:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I would understand that actually believe that C. K. When he came in, I believe that as a young coach.
• 2:21:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he was like, Oh, I mean, I'm trying to figure my way out.
• 2:21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But his first year as a head coach, and he's trying to figure this out.
• 2:21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Everrow's defense was horrific.
• 2:22:00
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the moment, C.K., he should have said, Everrow get the fuck out of my office.
• 2:22:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what, I don't got a knock when I come in.
• 2:22:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm barging in the damn door.
• 2:22:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, I think it created a culture of like, hey, the giro, I wanna talk to you about
• 2:22:19
  [UNKNOWN]: How we're dealing with things?
• 2:22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: No, Dave Canales.
• 2:22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Grow the big dick back.
• 2:22:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
• 2:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Still not going to point again.
• 2:22:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Did I freeze no I don't know I have like to have my internet problems.
• 2:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they're solved and I hope in there.
• 2:22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a revisit the power rankings we moved up to 16 the last time we looked at this we've now fallen back down to 18.
• 2:22:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You see, the team's listed ahead of us to have the Steelers, the Giants, the Packers, the Browns, and the Raiders, all listed as better teams than the Carolina Panthers right now.
• 2:23:07
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, that's still being fair, like even, like right now, 18, that feels generous.
• 2:23:15
  [UNKNOWN]: That feels like, while to even believe that the Panthers are a top 20 team is like,
• 2:23:23
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:23:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's a legitimate argument for anybody ahead of us.
• 2:23:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That we should be in front of them.
• 2:23:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I agree.
• 2:23:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there might be a argument.
• 2:23:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there might be an argument.
• 2:23:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The people behind us might be right now.
• 2:23:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Texan looks like they might be better.
• 2:23:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the worst part.
• 2:23:40
  [UNKNOWN]: What the, you know, Cardinals put on film with Cardinals.
• 2:23:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that I mean it looks like they look like they could be somebody who, uh, you know, could be reckoned with the Texans aren't winning.
• 2:23:57
  [UNKNOWN]: What's their record?
• 2:24:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't think great, but they're also in division where it's not great.
• 2:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't think there are any bad.
• 2:24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm okay.
• 2:24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think the Texans should be ahead of us.
• 2:24:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And nor would I stop if they were ahead of us, be like, we need to be ahead of them.
• 2:24:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Baltimore with Lamar out, that's crazy.
• 2:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe you know what?
• 2:24:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, how about this?
• 2:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about skew this up for the offseason.
• 2:24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina Panthers reboot Lamar Jackson.
• 2:24:41
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, you don't want to put either one.
• 2:24:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Washington probably should be higher on this list a little bit, but I don't know, they just got what they're their first or second win of the season.
• 2:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't, I mean, I wouldn't say higher.
• 2:24:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not higher above us, but no, I think this list is probably about right Cody, let's keep going.
• 2:25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We have some more calls to take to.
• 2:25:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So what the, let's finish out the calls and then all we have to do left is know your foe.
• 2:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, um, Cody, check this out, hold on, uh, what, where are we at?
• 2:25:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We have, um, Jake, the last call, uh, the last 704 number, the last, uh, uh, the very last call is Joey pretending to be Marshall Rudder.
• 2:25:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So here we go.
• 2:25:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to
• 2:25:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like we don't believe this guy.
• 2:25:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't anyway.
• 2:25:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's a Yankee.
• 2:25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's making fun of Southerners and I think he's trying to so discourse.
• 2:25:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But guess what?
• 2:25:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Well listen to you this time.
• 2:26:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He's coming after you.
• 2:26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He's coming after you.
• 2:26:03
  [UNKNOWN]: He's coming after me.
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• 2:26:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, of course, we know that Bright Young, obviously, is our start and quarterback.
• 2:26:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We know that, but some of the things, all foot brace, I think he might be hurt, y'all.
• 2:26:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I really do, and I was just wonder, man, you know, with this all sense of line, you know, with the struggles, I don't blame Bright, I truly don't, for what happened, because this
• 2:26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But my question is, is it time for some creativity and maybe Brad, Isaac, and Corporate and Haines King until that time?
• 2:27:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, good.
• 2:27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I thank you.
• 2:27:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope you have the opportunity.
• 2:27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 2:27:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, hello, this stupid conversation.
• 2:27:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready.
• 2:27:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready.
• 2:27:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm only doing something like that.
• 2:27:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, maybe she can catch some of the teams off guard with taste and hills, athleticism.
• 2:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God.
• 2:27:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, nice to meet you.
• 2:27:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, but there were Kings, Kings, athleticism.
• 2:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: and maybe get hangs king some valuable in-game experience while still making sure that Bryce Young is our start and quarterback you know I'm behind Bryce I know he hasn't played perfect Cody lack at the same time I think that he's shown enough to where we can ride it out with him but I would like to see hey king in certain situations with that athleticism
• 2:27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me all the thoughts on that man.
• 2:27:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm really curious to know which I'll think in as far as that goes, but if the hope doesn't love you.
• 2:28:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll keep pounded down for it, that was what I wanted to keep him.
• 2:28:09
  [UNKNOWN]: That was why I wanted to keep him, I thought you were going to be able to use him in some clever designs, you know, actually being vented with them.
• 2:28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, we didn't do anything that shit.
• 2:28:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm disappointed yet again.
• 2:28:23
  [UNKNOWN]: don't like it.
• 2:28:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't like it.
• 2:28:27
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, here it is.
• 2:28:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Get ready to turn your balls off.
• 2:28:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Got to me.
• 2:28:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, hey, it is coming to you.
• 2:28:35
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a ball game brother calling once again from Brawling North Carolina.
• 2:28:40
  [UNKNOWN]: That's interesting.
• 2:28:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey.
• 2:28:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know what's called.
• 2:28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I said that.
• 2:28:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a man.
• 2:28:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That's five cards.
• 2:28:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a brother.
• 2:28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Michael's house.
• 2:28:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I just could not resist the temptation to dial in and say hello to Tony Gibromia Obama will be Polish or done squeaking wheels.
• 2:29:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And of course, to mention that chicken hog cry or talk is back, and apparently still functional.
• 2:29:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That's right.
• 2:29:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why I want you to show me a joke.
• 2:29:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Unlike the two genetic defects next to you there in the room cry talk, you is a
• 2:29:27
  [UNKNOWN]: you couldn't even join in on the fun last Friday because you ain't got nothing to say but do me a favor boy.
• 2:29:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Shut the fuck up when it comes to football.
• 2:29:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Y'all don't know Jack, welcome shit about the game, the tactics, the business of the game itself.
• 2:29:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Use a loser hanger on.
• 2:29:52
  [UNKNOWN]: for the C3 Panthers fan cast nation to gawk at and make fun of behind your back.
• 2:29:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And speaking of which, I happen to notice, that you can see as they can see the dress on this show.
• 2:30:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't ever call in
• 2:30:09
  [UNKNOWN]: to voice their personal hatred.
• 2:30:13
  [UNKNOWN]: and discuss towards the truth that I happen to be so richly and dealt with, starting first and foremost with the ever so eloquent VR, the dopant dealer, followed by Panthers, Gale, 69, what's the matter, y'all?
• 2:30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't allow phones in the transition, housing and queer with Maclinburg, County.
• 2:30:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So in anticipation of the game,
• 2:30:43
  [UNKNOWN]: the so-called expert football fans like Tony Gibrony didn't even know where the fucking game is going to be play.
• 2:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
• 2:30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to first of all and most of all.
• 2:30:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't even care about this team.
• 2:30:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know.
• 2:30:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't care about it.
• 2:31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't care about it.
• 2:31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't care about it.
• 2:31:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But Marshall Rudder there, we should be able to surprisingly, he's a new one for me.
• 2:31:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this is CK couldn't show up because he had surgery.
• 2:31:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And now he can look at Marshall Rutter and the eyes and with no glasses on on any eyes for the mask because he's a coward, you're right, right.
• 2:31:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The other is this is you're not lying this mug, be watching and taking notes on this
• 2:31:55
  [UNKNOWN]: What are you talking about, you know, he's a toneage of Ronin, but like, like, come on, you're, you know, there's some, I can't say, look, I can't talk in your language, but you project in how me, you projected.
• 2:32:12
  [UNKNOWN]: You are projected can I call it out panther galley's like oh, you go you look tall football I know football.
• 2:32:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm Races motherfucker.
• 2:32:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I like the call actually because it's like a stick But if it becomes more than a stick then we're worried Well, no, the the funny thing about this is a mr. Rutter is
• 2:32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He disappears when he's wrong.
• 2:32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he's like the exact version of G-Baby, right?
• 2:32:48
  [UNKNOWN]: G-Baby when he's right, he shows up a hundred percent of the time, but we haven't heard from G-Baby the past two weeks at all, right?
• 2:32:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, what you would think tonight you would hear from G-Baby because of the E-Vero firing, like finally this dude's out, but rather just saying, wait, he was, he showed up for the every loss, but he never shows up for a win.
• 2:33:09
  [UNKNOWN]: never once this is where disagreesy k is i don't think he takes a position i think he just talks like he's just like everybody sucks but you know let let me explain it from this perspective he's calling me out for not being there Friday
• 2:33:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm here for the post he was that he was that he was that well he was there I mean Friday because man you were on there with him on the fruit Oh, so he's he's talking about that.
• 2:33:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm here for most every single loss and when they have Yep, I can have fun
• 2:33:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You're here.
• 2:33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm here for every single loss every single win every single week for better or for worse But this dude shows up only when he's got a point to prove.
• 2:33:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 2:33:56
  [UNKNOWN]: When you can't take the punches dude Nobody's gonna take you seriously You know, we're looking at your calls if if it is a stick.
• 2:34:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We're laughing at your phone calls.
• 2:34:06
  [UNKNOWN]: We love that But the reality is that if you're serious about your position
• 2:34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody is taking you seriously, can't come on.
• 2:34:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a total, um, oh, no, I actually disagree with you on this because I don't think he's taking up position on anything other than when he's taking up stocks.
• 2:34:27
  [UNKNOWN]: The panther suck.
• 2:34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I will.
• 2:34:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know the position.
• 2:34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what, and I will agree with both.
• 2:34:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I have no, you know what, fine.
• 2:34:39
  [UNKNOWN]: This polyshore motherfucker agrees with both.
• 2:34:43
  [UNKNOWN]: This jabrony asshole agrees with both.
• 2:34:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know what, um, you guys are great.
• 2:34:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I just make it and I don't even know if it's, if I'm even good at this, but guess what, it won't quit.
• 2:35:00
  [UNKNOWN]: There is one last call back from deep in the whole guys.
• 2:35:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This is from October 30th, it's right after the fire.
• 2:35:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And so we do need to play it.
• 2:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, C3, say you like.
• 2:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So, if I was just fired for what I'm hearing, what's up at you?
• 2:35:11
  [UNKNOWN]: The technical business of surgery is very quiet.
• 2:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh.
• 2:35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just a great day last.
• 2:35:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope it'll help it on Hill, but more on the offensive line and our inability to keep healthy things.
• 2:35:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to assume the strength and conditional staff would have all been fired with a military spirit having.
• 2:35:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's just me.
• 2:35:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're down to quarterback six, seven on the death chart.
• 2:35:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And we made a damage, the defense held, I mean, they did great.
• 2:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess, well, I was in company, but they did do terrible.
• 2:35:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they did.
• 2:35:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, the bus game, that was horrible.
• 2:35:56
  [UNKNOWN]: That's so much wrong.
• 2:35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think about our need to be fired, but after we graduated, giving up close to 30 points, it's not good.
• 2:36:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But Green Bay was 100% off of his alive.
• 2:36:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think rice, he threw it for over 200 yards, and was running towards life the entire game.
• 2:36:16
  [UNKNOWN]: do not blame him at all for this.
• 2:36:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It is our off of the line and the inability of the off of the wine of David Morgan.
• 2:36:24
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got a good, but he's also done really bad.
• 2:36:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been the highs and lows so far.
• 2:36:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Mike again.
• 2:36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Because Ted, poker, excellent, sitting
• 2:36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Off at the line, poor, grated injuries are a problem with else it's a line, Brady Craig's assistant, Tiana Bono, and Tiana Bono all out, but let's not work the money we're paying him, just in the center.
• 2:36:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's try Sam Hatt, let's, in freely, he's not playing his natural position.
• 2:37:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't expect him to be good at white tackles and rookie when he played left tackles a ton of life, but this is, you know, here they're there, and we're starting with one, let me know what you got to think of the list of DCs that you would want to bring in that we could easily bring in, but I'm going to let's be realistic here.
• 2:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, guys, you can pound it.
• 2:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, I think Monroe Freeling is our left tackle of the future.
• 2:37:31
  [UNKNOWN]: There, this, that's what I'm hoping is, right now I want to see him out left tackle, but like I said earlier to you, CK, I'm worried that just moving him to that position, just, hey, now you're playing left, you know, against the Broncos.
• 2:37:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I'm worried that that's just not enough time for him to...
• 2:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: properly actually made to that position after being asked to man the right side all year.
• 2:37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Like that really orders me about.
• 2:37:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't.
• 2:38:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I get where you're coming from on that, but I also think that it
• 2:38:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It gives us an opportunity to actually see him in action at the position.
• 2:38:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Like when you're drafted as high as he was, like you're not being drafted to come in here and develop as a right tack or a left tack or right.
• 2:38:19
  [UNKNOWN]: He was being drafted to be a guy who could man that left side immediately, right if he needed to.
• 2:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And the unfortunate thing is he didn't need to be somebody who manned the left tackle because we needed him at right tackle because of the mutant situation.
• 2:38:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and so I, I don't know, man, I think I would rather see what we have with him at a position that he's comfortable in because right now he hasn't shown that he's great at right tackle right now.
• 2:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, that means he can't get better, but he just hasn't quite lived up to that yet.
• 2:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's keep going.
• 2:38:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's finish it out fellas.
• 2:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that is all the calls.
• 2:39:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We have gotten all the calls done tonight.
• 2:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody.
• 2:39:05
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:39:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 2:39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: line.
• 2:39:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, man, one more.
• 2:39:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, we're going straight to better know your full.
• 2:39:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We have also made another firing.
• 2:39:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers have parted wages with minor and chondry.
• 2:39:21
  [UNKNOWN]: The teams, the system linebacker coach, a team spokesman confirmed.
• 2:39:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he was included in the teams and now it's been just stay below.
• 2:39:31
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's a recent development.
• 2:39:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So again, we're moving on.
• 2:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope in that all these changes only serve a meaningful impact on our defense.
• 2:39:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony CK more since my backer coach is just fucking god.
• 2:39:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my jury chargey the first time you've ever heard his name ever All right, I know if I didn't know your phone This is the Denver Broncos.
• 2:39:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This is gonna make our pay.
• 2:39:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This but you want to do that now.
• 2:40:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You want to wait till after Yeah, let's line the phone
• 2:40:04
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, nope, you're a foe, the bone next conundrum.
• 2:40:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Quarterback bone next is shown in the ability to lead the Broncos to big wins in the past.
• 2:40:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But this season began with struggles to be consistent or explosive and Denver has relied on the defense to win games.
• 2:40:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It should be noted, Nix is coming off too, off season in the ankle surgeries and had a new play caller for the first four games of the season before a head coach Sean Payton took over
• 2:40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's Peyton who's been calling plays last four weeks.
• 2:40:36
  [UNKNOWN]: During that time, Nick's started to take over games from his side of the ball.
• 2:40:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Nick's average at 186 points, six yards per game, 27th of the league amongst qualifying quarterbacks.
• 2:40:51
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... in values three games in weeks one two six you have it five point five yards per attempt in the last two games though is average seven point three yards per attempt carolina made defensive coaching changes this weekend so again planned against next to be the first
• 2:41:11
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers have to put together under, uh, interim defensive coordinator, Todd, wash.
• 2:41:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So Bo next is playing better under Sean Payton.
• 2:41:22
  [UNKNOWN]: He's passing the ball more.
• 2:41:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So I, I don't know.
• 2:41:27
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, this is going to be dead again.
• 2:41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Can the Carolina Panthers find any way to get pressure
• 2:41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to know about their defense, that's what I want to know, like, man, like, we know about our defense.
• 2:41:48
  [UNKNOWN]: What it was, damn verse defense, like, come on, tell me.
• 2:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, hold on.
• 2:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll get to it.
• 2:41:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're not.
• 2:41:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We're good to it.
• 2:41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: The playmakers no matter where Nick's throwing it, he has talented playmakers.
• 2:42:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We can make things happen with the ball in their hands.
• 2:42:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Receivers at Jason's model, it leads to the team between nine catches for three hundred fifteen yards and two touchdowns.
• 2:42:13
  [UNKNOWN]: The Broncos have a trio of stars in their backfield.
• 2:42:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Jake H. Dobbins, RJ Harvey and Joan and Coleman.
• 2:42:19
  [UNKNOWN]: but they've had enough time, they've had a hard enough time keeping all three health care at the same time this season.
• 2:42:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the case again after Harvey suffered a knee injury in practice ahead of the chiefs game and was placed on injury reserve.
• 2:42:35
  [UNKNOWN]: He'll miss the Panthers match up on Sunday.
• 2:42:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The job is in the averaging 3.3 yards of carry, that's not that much.
• 2:42:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's picked up the most first downs for Denver, video rushing, 12.
• 2:42:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's common who's really starting to make an impact.
• 2:42:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The rookie played the season high, 63% of the Broncos offensive snaps in the big eight, leading the team in both rushing and receiving yards.
• 2:43:00
  [UNKNOWN]: On the ground, again, four to one yards in the touchdown on 11 carries while generating a 54.5% success rate.
• 2:43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: The highest by a Broncos running back in the game this season.
• 2:43:14
  [UNKNOWN]: by the same carries.
• 2:43:16
  [UNKNOWN]: He was just as involved in the passing game, catching four of five targets for 63 yards.
• 2:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: So again, the offense, they have all the necessary weapons to the Panthers.
• 2:43:33
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not that great on offense, bro.
• 2:43:36
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I could.
• 2:43:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm saying he and her three.
• 2:43:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Caroline the Panthers cannot get a pass rush like we failed to do against the Green Bay Packers expect Jalen Waddle to have a career game.
• 2:43:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not kind of a situation for us.
• 2:43:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The next thing we got to look for.
• 2:44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... a century red zone defense denverse defense is interesting direct twenty-fifth and overall in total defense but there are leavened and scoring defense allowing twenty-point six points again seventh and turn over differential and four tenths in total turnovers
• 2:44:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Related to scoring defense, the Broncos retired for anything red zone defense, opponents scoring the red zone only 48% of the time.
• 2:44:28
  [UNKNOWN]: This stat was proven fruitful on Sunday against the Chiefs, when the defense put up a goal line stand to win the game for Denver.
• 2:44:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The final play taking from the six yard line after a Kansas City fall start was a sack on Patrick Mahomes by Malcolm Roach who was tied for second on the team with three and a half sacks.
• 2:44:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That column is led by defensive and Zach Allen with four and a half sacks.
• 2:44:55
  [UNKNOWN]: In the middle of the defense, a linebacker Alex Singleton leaves the entire NFL with 101 tackles.
• 2:45:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Horn or Patzer 10, the second Miss three games with an ankle injury by returning against Kansas City Finishing with eight tackles and one pass defended.
• 2:45:15
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think the moral of this story that don't rank very hot in total defense, but when you get to the red zone, they're solid.
• 2:45:25
  [UNKNOWN]: They're down on you.
• 2:45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: They're eight, 48 percent, right?
• 2:45:29
  [UNKNOWN]: They are keeping teams out of the
• 2:45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so, oh gosh, here comes a zero-euro opponent going, oh, we don't fucking do anything great, but we don't let you score.
• 2:45:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's the problem I have and the concern about the Denver defense is they're fourth in sex, they have 23 sex.
• 2:45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: They have their seventh in interception, they have
• 2:46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: They, I mean, they're scoring defense because they are getting sacks, they're getting interceptions.
• 2:46:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They're 11th in scoring or I mean, but they average, but here's the thing, they're 25th in total defense, passing defense, 20th, rushing defense, 25th.
• 2:46:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, this has been an interesting conversation as I heard that art, I feel like I am thinking too much about last year's Denver's defense and how stingy it is, yeah.
• 2:46:49
  [UNKNOWN]: but they're not shut shut down.
• 2:46:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And if this offense
• 2:46:54
  [UNKNOWN]: is not like, I mean, like, they've been up and down.
• 2:46:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They've been weird.
• 2:46:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know you can say Sean Peyton took over and it's gotten better.
• 2:47:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's not just been a magic recipe.
• 2:47:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm about to make a stupid ass pick tonight, Cody Latte.
• 2:47:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We got one five, we got, we got to make picks.
• 2:47:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that the last part?
• 2:47:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
• 2:47:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Or no.
• 2:47:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Made picks all right in your foot.
• 2:47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, if sick has a bite, let's knock it out.
• 2:47:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's knock it out.
• 2:47:22
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, guys.
• 2:47:25
  [UNKNOWN]: here um... let me pull this up my bookie dot a.g. we're gonna do our NFC south picks for the week let me pull them up because i'd like to see it helps me uh... look at what the odds are for the game we've got the panthers hosting the broncos
• 2:47:45
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• 2:48:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see this as the first one that picks up.
• 2:48:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We pick the NFC South.
• 2:48:26
  [UNKNOWN]: every week.
• 2:48:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:48:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, first game is Jacksonville.
• 2:48:30
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, uh, bangles about this.
• 2:48:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I got a good back.
• 2:48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think,
• 2:48:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It's roughly, I think the math might be off one.
• 2:48:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I am 10 and 13, Cody is 12 and 11 and CK is 11 and 12.
• 2:48:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I got a double check that math.
• 2:48:49
  [UNKNOWN]: The Bengals are road favorites against the Atlanta Falcons.
• 2:48:55
  [UNKNOWN]: They're minus three on mybookie.ag.
• 2:48:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The over under is 52.
• 2:49:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna make my pig straight out the gate.
• 2:49:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the bangles
• 2:49:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think this is a trap game.
• 2:49:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know how I'll take the Bengals.
• 2:49:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I will take the points and I'll parlay it with the under, personally.
• 2:49:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how they're going to get the 52.
• 2:49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, are the Falcons going to come out there and put up 24, maybe?
• 2:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this a sucker bet, which one do you stay away from, which is the safest?
• 2:49:34
  [UNKNOWN]: maybe you stay away from the over 52 and a half is a lot.
• 2:49:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sitting here going bangles give me the points minus 3 under 52.
• 2:49:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But Tony's just straight up taking the bangles Cody, here you got.
• 2:49:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going Cincinnati, man.
• 2:49:55
  [UNKNOWN]: My juggernaut of an offensive unit in my fantasy team is dependent upon those three guys.
• 2:50:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Joe Burro, Jomor and Jason T. Yiggins, so.
• 2:50:06
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, well, that.
• 2:50:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, don't use your bias, but Cica, he got bangles.
• 2:50:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're kind of win.
• 2:50:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going, uh, and I hate to do this because I don't want this, but I'm going to falcons.
• 2:50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my gosh.
• 2:50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you guys can keep it in time.
• 2:50:20
  [UNKNOWN]: This defense held the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to 16 points on four interceptions.
• 2:50:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Like they pinnicks through four interceptions and that defense held that team to 16 total points, which is crazy.
• 2:50:38
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, you know what, when we've zigged you've zagged and you've won a couple of these or a lot of these throughout the season.
• 2:50:45
  [UNKNOWN]: season next up, Carolina Panthers hosting the Denver Broncos, my bookie dot AG promo code C3P, the Panthers are three point home dogs.
• 2:50:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Minus three for the Broncos, clearly, if you're three point dogs, 44 over under.
• 2:51:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know what is, um, I'm ziggin' like you zagged C. K. I don't know why I'm doing this, but I just feel like something is like the Broncos pin a little too hot.
• 2:51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they're defenses as great as it is.
• 2:51:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You're at home.
• 2:51:29
  [UNKNOWN]: They're on the road.
• 2:51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They're coming across.
• 2:51:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the panthers, man.
• 2:51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And I hate that.
• 2:51:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't like that, but this is kind of like one of those things is, oh, the San Francisco 49ers are undefeated at like, you're picking against, I'm almost picking against the Broncos, not picking for the Panthers, yeah.
• 2:51:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I've got the Panthers, Cody, who do you got?
• 2:52:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I am picking the Denver Broncos.
• 2:52:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm at this point where I don't feel confident enough to cast a vote for the city.
• 2:52:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I'm realistic.
• 2:52:11
  [UNKNOWN]: After there are business performances against Tampa and Green Bay, I feel like a saddest it is, you know, we just brought up those rushing numbers for Denver and how they're not very good.
• 2:52:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this is an opportunity for them to, uh, to get a good right game.
• 2:52:31
  [UNKNOWN]: If the Carolina Panthers cannot save face against the Denver Broncos, to me, this season is going to go downhill very fast.
• 2:52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think the Panthers win this.
• 2:52:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking Denver.
• 2:52:46
  [UNKNOWN]: He's picking the Panthers going downhill.
• 2:52:48
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, who do you got here?
• 2:52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I have got, I think the historically on the firing of a coordinator, the team comes out and plays well.
• 2:52:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the historically, I see that a fill.
• 2:53:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I'm going with the Panthers here.
• 2:53:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, let's rock.
• 2:53:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know what, is like, I wanted to happen and I don't see K.
• 2:53:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Because it's like, oh, we beat the Broncos, they're fucking good.
• 2:53:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We're better, like, then we're back in it.
• 2:53:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And then we're going to get our hopes smashed.
• 2:53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Wait, I mean, I'm with you.
• 2:53:22
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:53:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So next up is, uh, hold on.
• 2:53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I had it pulled up, Cleveland Browns at New Orleans Saints.
• 2:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The Saints, by the way, let me tell you this, is the Saints, or would you think, who's favorite in this game, guys?
• 2:53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe I skipped a game, we got the, yeah, we're right.
• 2:53:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We're right.
• 2:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Browns are on the road, and they are facing the New Orleans Saints.
• 2:54:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Who's favorite in this game?
• 2:54:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the Browns are probably favorite.
• 2:54:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:54:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm gonna say the Browns are favored.
• 2:54:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're both wrong.
• 2:54:12
  [UNKNOWN]: The New Orleans Saints are one and a half point.
• 2:54:14
  [UNKNOWN]: What favorites?
• 2:54:16
  [UNKNOWN]: What is there an injury on the Browns that we don't know about?
• 2:54:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, the Browns are frauds.
• 2:54:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what it is.
• 2:54:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Over under is 40 years.
• 2:54:24
  [UNKNOWN]: There they're all fits of lying out word by Pittsburgh.
• 2:54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Browns at Saints.
• 2:54:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, oh, guys.
• 2:54:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm doing this because I'm an asshole and I hate my wife.
• 2:54:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the saints, picking the favorites, and why I'm picking this is because at the beginning of each week we do the NFC market check.
• 2:54:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And you might as well just go back on the Saints and win the division.
• 2:54:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying they are going to win it, but like, imagine what the Saints beating the Browns are here, say the Panthers, lose, like, throw the chaos into the NFC South.
• 2:55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready for it.
• 2:55:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking this.
• 2:55:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not ready for it.
• 2:55:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the Saints.
• 2:55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: over under 43 Cody Saints or Browns that Saints you pick it.
• 2:55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I am picking the Browns You're watch towel watsin.
• 2:55:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I got it Well, they do it didn't pick them fucking who that's he's sorry, bro.
• 2:55:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so you're okay, and CK
• 2:55:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going uh... with the browns as well uh... i'm going with the browns because i don't think shug is going to be able to do it they can't get a run game going i don't know if i'm going in the way no yeah i mean but do did you see have you seen how good uh... word has been playing in that secondary he's gonna lock down uh... a lot of a
• 2:56:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that defense is going to get some work and do I think that they have some some, you know, some weaknesses?
• 2:56:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, obviously, but I think the strong lessons of fraud.
• 2:56:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a fraud.
• 2:56:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, CK will start you off.
• 2:56:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Then you can make the first pick is Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Bears.
• 2:56:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, what do you think the line is on this?
• 2:56:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's, uh, I think it's going to be what 42.
• 2:56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not the over under, because you're right, the bears.
• 2:56:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the bears are favored.
• 2:56:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll go ahead and tell you that.
• 2:56:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's, I said bears might as six and a half.
• 2:56:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:56:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go, uh, I think that I'm going to go with the bears.
• 2:56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he might be at over seven.
• 2:57:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, seven and a half, I think that first of all, y'all are all searching around it.
• 2:57:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, he killed it.
• 2:57:10
  [UNKNOWN]: The line on my bookie.ag right now is six.
• 2:57:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, and I thought they had to do this are six point favorites bucks are six point dogs.
• 2:57:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I am leaning towards CK here though, because I'm like making the line.
• 2:57:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's more here's an interesting play here over under 47, right?
• 2:57:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Like is I feel like this is they are we're going to see these numbers move.
• 2:57:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of values being put into this Tampa Bay running game.
• 2:57:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's going to hold against the Chicago Bears.
• 2:57:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll take the six now.
• 2:57:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not like, I don't like big spreads.
• 2:58:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm taking the bears without a doubt.
• 2:58:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I'll give them the six to and
• 2:58:12
  [UNKNOWN]: you know what as uh... i don't know over under don't fucker the over under there it could be like a thirty seven to six game could be weird uh... cody bears or books i am going with uh... i was like to go with the books but i'm not feeling that ticket for all you so i'm going already wrote down all y'all's pick so it please tell me if i was wrong
• 2:58:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go, if you do, I've already worked down the bears.
• 2:58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going to bear it.
• 2:58:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to bear it.
• 2:58:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I have a fucker.
• 2:58:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not making the books.
• 2:58:52
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:58:53
  [UNKNOWN]: There we go.
• 2:58:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That is our weekly picks for the NFC South.
• 2:58:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast.
• 2:59:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks for hanging out with us every Tuesday night, where we chop up the latest Panthers and news in the opinions from the fan perspective.
• 2:59:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, we got one last segment to rock here.
• 2:59:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is right, am I, or am I listening to you?
• 2:59:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're right.
• 2:59:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, we're doing by ourselves.
• 2:59:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh no, we've got two segments, Cody.
• 2:59:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Not Cody.
• 2:59:24
  [UNKNOWN]: CK.
• 2:59:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you got my internet as working.
• 2:59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So I might have a fighting chance.
• 2:59:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Has it worked all night?
• 2:59:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you've been good all night.
• 2:59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Damn right, I changed companies for y'all mugs.
• 2:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 2:59:41
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, time.
• 2:59:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Final segment of the C3 Panthers part, pod, time to bot or sell.
• 2:59:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, Tony.
• 2:59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Fight near the out.
• 2:59:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 3:00:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, right, so this is the buyer sales segment where I give a few statements, Cody and Tony, they tell me whether they're buying or they're selling, based on where the Panthers are currently.
• 3:00:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of these are predictive statements.
• 3:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of them are just about who the Panthers are today.
• 3:00:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I'm going to start out with a less bullish statement.
• 3:00:27
  [UNKNOWN]: buyer sell the panthers three and four record is better than the team actually is right now
• 3:00:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, come on, Mr. Man, that's got all the opinions.
• 3:00:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm selling.
• 3:00:44
  [UNKNOWN]: This team is not good.
• 3:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: This offensive line stinks.
• 3:00:49
  [UNKNOWN]: They just fire their defensive coordinator.
• 3:00:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Who's stunk?
• 3:00:53
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 3:00:54
  [UNKNOWN]: You can tell me it's edition by subtraction.
• 3:00:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
• 3:00:59
  [UNKNOWN]: this it does not fix the offensive line at all.
• 3:01:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This team is not good.
• 3:01:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, are they good enough to win the NFC South?
• 3:01:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll let you guys who will be waiting and with baited breath towards the end of the season.
• 3:01:16
  [UNKNOWN]: This team is not ready.
• 3:01:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think one head rolled more heads rolled later.
• 3:01:22
  [UNKNOWN]: No,
• 3:01:27
  [UNKNOWN]: If they were in a different division CK, count them out.
• 3:01:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:01:34
  [UNKNOWN]: That's reasonable.
• 3:01:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Go ahead.
• 3:01:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Your question was, are you buying the R record that were actually worse than our record is?
• 3:01:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That is my.
• 3:01:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, well, no.
• 3:01:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm selling.
• 3:01:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we are who the record says we are.
• 3:01:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We're a 34 football team.
• 3:01:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the games that we lost, we've looked absolutely on the board and the games that we have won, some of them are a little closer than we needed them to be, but I can't say it's strong in one way or the other.
• 3:02:09
  [UNKNOWN]: There's just a three and four team dude.
• 3:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep, that's fair.
• 3:02:16
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so firing Everah was the right move at the right time, rather than waiting
• 3:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Bye, bye, bye, no instinct, baby.
• 3:02:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a backstreet boy, fam, myself.
• 3:02:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I do have to make this move.
• 3:02:34
  [UNKNOWN]: There was no reason why you wait till after the season to fire a barrel.
• 3:02:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm selling, but I'm selling and adjusting the questions again.
• 3:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 3:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: This should have been done earlier.
• 3:02:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Like is it's not about isn't the right time this season, this that they should have done it two years ago.
• 3:03:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Now you're just dealing with the collateral damage of those choices does firing him at this moment, make the Panthers better or is this the right time?
• 3:03:13
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it was a wrong time because they missed the right window.
• 3:03:17
  [UNKNOWN]: There.
• 3:03:24
  [UNKNOWN]: By our cell, Caroline's defense will actually be better under Todd wall wash over the final 10 games than it was under Evo.
• 3:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah, I'll buy because how much worse than it did.
• 3:03:44
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the last words right there.
• 3:03:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I know.
• 3:03:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know what?
• 3:03:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it's good.
• 3:03:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't work that day.
• 3:03:52
  [UNKNOWN]: After you're trying to change this.
• 3:03:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but no.
• 3:03:56
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you want me to do?
• 3:03:57
  [UNKNOWN]: You made a bus.
• 3:03:59
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:04:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what?
• 3:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 3:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the last words, man.
• 3:04:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 3:04:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It seems like it.
• 3:04:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Mr. Oh, this is going to change the team.
• 3:04:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on and you're telling me I'm wrong.
• 3:04:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 3:04:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me buyer sell it I'm by
• 3:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm lying.
• 3:04:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this is going to be the best thing for this for this defense.
• 3:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That was, that was the question, right?
• 3:04:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You're buying that this defense can basically get control of things.
• 3:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the problem.
• 3:04:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:04:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it's just going to be because we're going to let our outside libraries rush the pasture.
• 3:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: If that's the only good thing that comes out of this, it will have been worth it.
• 3:04:47
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, and then I think this is one that many of us are probably going to have a strong opinion on.
• 3:04:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that we're going to be all gung ho and either one of the on this being the case, but I'm still torn on this, but the panther should make moving toward a four man defensive front, so a four three A permanent philosophical change, not just an interim adjustment.
• 3:05:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you always want me to take the first position.
• 3:05:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Ladies first.
• 3:05:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, it's not the first.
• 3:05:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Ladies first.
• 3:05:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I, you know what, I'm going to buy make it, and it's making it a real adjustment.
• 3:05:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Not an interim adjustment.
• 3:05:39
  [UNKNOWN]: We're correct.
• 3:05:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 3:05:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:05:40
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's that we should be considered a 4 3 moving forward, not just a not a 4 3 for the rest
• 3:05:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going to say this.
• 3:05:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I buy it because I'm going to come out with that coach pick and say, look, oh, we run a 4 3 base package, but we run 98 or 78% of plays in Buffalo, nickel, nickel, this, knackle that whatever.
• 3:06:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is that the Carolina Panthers,
• 3:06:11
  [UNKNOWN]: can't run this four three.
• 3:06:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So what the hell?
• 3:06:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Why can't they not try?
• 3:06:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they can't run the three four.
• 3:06:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:06:19
  [UNKNOWN]: So why not try to line these big boys up?
• 3:06:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm buying it.
• 3:06:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know I understand folks.
• 3:06:29
  [UNKNOWN]: that I'm not like ridiculous is like what does this change to all the things you taught everybody.
• 3:06:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm just saying this is let's run a simpler defense, simpler gap assignments, simpler assignments in general.
• 3:06:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm buying it.
• 3:06:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it really happens, but I don't think it would hurt.
• 3:06:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I'm fine baby.
• 3:06:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm buying.
• 3:06:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I've hated this three four since the moment we started to do it under Ron Rivera.
• 3:07:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't like the three four, give me four big boys planted right on your defensive line.
• 3:07:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me three off all linebackers.
• 3:07:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We're good to roll boys.
• 3:07:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm buying it.
• 3:07:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going back to that for three.
• 3:07:16
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, and then the last one I wanted to do is because obviously we have the the trade deadline coming up and I think our position on this is going to be something that has been evolving throughout the season, especially given that we've taken such a step backwards as a squad, but Dan Morgan should be willing to sacrifice 20 27 day to pick for the right player because Caroline is still in position to win the NFC South.
• 3:07:47
  [UNKNOWN]: sell sell sell sell.
• 3:07:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that the Carolina Panthers should be looking at themselves as contenders.
• 3:07:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know that sucks.
• 3:08:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, but I'm so sick of this.
• 3:08:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I just watch this
• 3:08:06
  [UNKNOWN]: We watched the books beat us without throwing a baker through 11 passes and then they were like, oh, let's try to one up that next week by throwing three passes and not completing any.
• 3:08:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not excited right now about anything.
• 3:08:26
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are sellers, bro.
• 3:08:29
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not buyers.
• 3:08:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how could that be by, it's like what position are we going out to get?
• 3:08:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not getting a defensive tackle because all of the, you know, buckner's gone, Jeffrey Simmons is gone.
• 3:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not going into starting a left tackle of red tackle, so what are you going get like what are we buying?
• 3:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the question is, what would you, what would be worth it at this stage in the process?
• 3:09:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm kind of right there with you guys.
• 3:09:04
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:09:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So that was the buyer's help.
• 3:09:08
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 3:09:08
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• 3:09:10
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• 3:09:13
  [UNKNOWN]: be a part of the conversation we'll be here on Friday night for the free for all after the show after the game for the post game show final segment to close it out the longest run in segment on the longest run in Panthers podcast the ice up segment where we tell you someone everywhere anywhere to ice up.
• 3:09:41
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• 3:09:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 3:10:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone is fair game in or outside the bounds of football.
• 3:10:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our podcast.
• 3:10:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, we're talking football.
• 3:10:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We're fans talking about football, but we can ice up each other.
• 3:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We can ice up ourselves.
• 3:10:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We can ice up things outside of football inside of football tonight.
• 3:10:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Ice up pick guys who is ready to go.
• 3:10:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, dude, I'm just, it's not really an ice up more than is a celebration.
• 3:10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up all these fucking political ads.
• 3:10:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care what team you're on.
• 3:10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: This shit is over.
• 3:10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm done hearing about it.
• 3:10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to move on and only think about football until I come out of hibernation sometimes.
• 3:10:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Next spring.
• 3:10:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So I set up to all these fucking political ads and yeah, I'm done ready to move on from it
• 3:11:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't mind going next.
• 3:11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm gonna go with, so I've done this, you know, talked about this content creator before his name's The Burnt Peanut.
• 3:11:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And here recently, so it's a known thing that
• 3:11:22
  [UNKNOWN]: games or companies will partner or offer free content to a content creator.
• 3:11:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That is planning on promoting their game.
• 3:11:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And so the burnt peanut went and played a game called Dead by Daylight, which is a game that's been out for essentially 10 years.
• 3:11:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's got a community that would largely
• 3:11:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, he went to play Dead by Daylight.
• 3:11:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They gave him all of these skins to be able to play the game and expose the audience that he has to this game.
• 3:12:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But she has 50,000 people on one platform alone and probably 50,000 on another platform by itself that watches him play these games.
• 3:12:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So they're doing this as an investment, right?
• 3:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: a process that many, many organizations will do.
• 3:12:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the community of this game that has been playing this game for so long is was limited that he got all of these skins for free.
• 3:12:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, they're hiding jealousy behind the guys of diversity and inclusion by stating that he's homophobic, racist, transphobic, all of these things.
• 3:12:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He wanted for the.
• 3:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, there's one thing.
• 3:12:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He said one, he said the word that, you know, that would rhyme with magazine or mag.
• 3:13:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's the one that they're kind of holding their hanging their hat on that is supporting their, they're believed that he is a racist or a homophobic.
• 3:13:14
  [UNKNOWN]: nonetheless, whatever, he's he's apologized, he's moved on from it.
• 3:13:17
  [UNKNOWN]: That was like two years ago.
• 3:13:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, these people are just like latching onto this entire thing and saying that this game, they can't believe this game that they would be willing to support this this content creator.
• 3:13:31
  [UNKNOWN]: It's been it's one of the most hysterical things ever.
• 3:13:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's also one of the worst responses from an organization.
• 3:13:37
  [UNKNOWN]: This game came out and said, we agree, we don't.
• 3:13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Essentially, it's caving to the pressure of a community that has absolutely no interest in diversity and conclusion at all.
• 3:13:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing they're interested in is really,
• 3:13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: the lack of diversity and the lack of inclusion because if that was the if they cared about diversity and inclusion they would have welcomed a plenty of people into the game versus wanting to have it be very isolated to their group of people.
• 3:14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And so the game came out they took away all of the things that they gave to the burnt peanut and it was just some it's just historically.
• 3:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: shallow and these people are calling for the community member or the community manager that approved for this collaboration to be fired literally trying to take away somebody's livelihood for trying to better the game.
• 3:14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And they want to be the the party of inclusion.
• 3:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I'm just saying I sub to the game.
• 3:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I sub to the people that are in this community that believe that they're in the right.
• 3:14:40
  [UNKNOWN]: They have only caused damage to their game and their brand.
• 3:14:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm icing those folks up.
• 3:14:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Never bow to the mob.
• 3:14:48
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 3:14:49
  [UNKNOWN]: My ice up goes two-fold one to myself and one to Bright Speed Internet.
• 3:15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Bright Speed Internet, the gamut.
• 3:15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy came by trying to sell the fiber to me.
• 3:15:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I had fiber, I was paying probably more than I should have because you're an existing customer.
• 3:15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: This kid, I mean, young guy, you know, I mean, probably early 20s knocked on the door.
• 3:15:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Usually don't answer it.
• 3:15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But it was raining, he's standing out there.
• 3:15:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, oh, man, we can get you this.
• 3:15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We can give you the speeds, we can give you, and we're putting fiber out here, fiber is out here.
• 3:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's raining, and I said, dude, look, actually he did it during the Panthers game.
• 3:15:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It was during one of the Witch Panthers game was it, it was maybe a lander game.
• 3:15:57
  [UNKNOWN]: because I was at home.
• 3:15:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We watched the Browns game together.
• 3:16:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't a night game.
• 3:16:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, oh, I answered the door and I was like, bro, I ain't trying that.
• 3:16:08
  [UNKNOWN]: talk with you right now and I wasn't trying to I don't like to be rude to people either.
• 3:16:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's selling I know he's a like and I said well if you want to come back come back tomorrow this mug was in the rain standing and then he came back at 7 p.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.
• 3:16:29
  [UNKNOWN]: back at seven and you know what is bright speed was ready to give me one gig up and down fiber which they technically did the up and down speed of this I got this new and I came on this podcast and celebrated it I was like man I then pivoted and I'd like put ping these two companies off of each other and I was close to getting internet for $20 a month.
• 3:16:57
  [UNKNOWN]: $20 a month.
• 3:16:58
  [UNKNOWN]: There was 50 and they were like, oh, we'll give you a $30 credit for two years.
• 3:17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It was awesome.
• 3:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: It actually worked.
• 3:17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 3:17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the up and down speed was fantastic.
• 3:17:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you've noticed the me on the C3 Panthers podcast, the live.
• 3:17:15
  [UNKNOWN]: shit just did not work.
• 3:17:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It had rubber banding, it had packet laws.
• 3:17:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I tried to deal with this through this company.
• 3:17:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And I ultimately ended up going back to my old company, which is now being brought bought out by Team Oval.
• 3:17:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's not even the old company's kind of the old company.
• 3:17:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I still have a lower rate.
• 3:17:37
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the best part about it is I have saved money from my initial rate.
• 3:17:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so I, I send up bright speed for like their inconsistent internet even though the up and down speeds for the fiber was fantastic like run the speed test, but look, I'm here tonight.
• 3:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: No problems back at it.
• 3:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm icing up myself for chasing the cheap trick.
• 3:18:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, as I should have just done what I initially was going to do, which is try to get them to come down my my provider that worked to come down, which they did and now I'm back with them and now I have to cancel this bright speed.
• 3:18:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I spent more hours, what is your, what are your hours worth?
• 3:18:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm icing myself up.
• 3:18:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm celebrating that kids selling internet in the rain.
• 3:18:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I send up bright speed for great speed.
• 3:18:40
  [UNKNOWN]: For everything, it worked for everything.
• 3:18:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I like all the download shit, like you watch Netflix, and my kids are like, oh, it works fine.
• 3:18:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But this didn't work.
• 3:18:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And the process of trying to hopefully fix it for you guys or for me was very difficult on the back end.
• 3:19:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But I am saying it was so frustrating.
• 3:19:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You know how mad I was on Thursday after especially this and the back end of Panther Walsh is like that.
• 3:19:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I was, I was very nice.
• 3:19:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I opened the call with the customer service group.
• 3:19:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, this is not your fault, but you drew the short end of the stick.
• 3:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:19:30
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers lost last night.
• 3:19:32
  [UNKNOWN]: My podcast is suffering.
• 3:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready to, I might send myself up.
• 3:19:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys, that's a C3 Panthers podcast brought to you by these three knuckleheads.
• 3:19:44
  [UNKNOWN]: CK can see better than all of us.
• 3:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack, he can not walk better than me, but he can think and talk better than me.
• 3:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And this guy can't do anything, but just make Cody Lack,
• 3:19:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, it's been a great hanging out with you and I'll be here on the Friday free for always you guys and for coming up, take us out of here, my man.
• 3:20:10
  [UNKNOWN]: See three days and love y'all, let's beat the Broncos until next time, keep pounding.