Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Harry Uninvited To Stay At Buckingham Palace
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, July seventh, and the big
- 0:06Speaker 1: headlines Prince Harry goes home. The bigger headlines Prince Harry
- 0:12Speaker 1: not welcomed home and with that, welcome to this episode
- 0:16Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. Is he really couldn't stay at
- 0:19Speaker 1: the house.
- 0:20Speaker 2: This is house.
- 0:21Speaker 3: This is such troubling news because at first we were
- 0:25Speaker 3: all excited. We were told from Prince Harry's camp, from
- 0:30Speaker 3: the Sussex spokesperson that yes, Harry had accepted an invitation
- 0:36Speaker 3: to stay with relatives at Buckingham Palace during a scheduled
- 0:39Speaker 3: five day visit, and there was word initially that he
- 0:42Speaker 3: might even bring Meghan and the kids with him. Of course,
- 0:46Speaker 3: seven year old Archie and five year old Lillabit they
- 0:48Speaker 3: have not seen Grandpa, the King of England in four years.
- 0:53Speaker 3: They have not been back since twenty twenty two. Harry
- 0:56Speaker 3: had a series of charity events that he is going
- 1:00Speaker 3: going to participate in, including the Invictus Games. He's there to
- 1:03Speaker 3: announce it's I think one year out. But once it
- 1:06Speaker 3: was deemed that the security that he's been asking for
- 1:10Speaker 3: wasn't going to be given to him to the family,
- 1:12Speaker 3: he opted out of bringing the family but he still
- 1:15Speaker 3: said I'm gonna come okay.
- 1:16Speaker 1: That this was a real downer to begin with. Robes
- 1:20Speaker 1: the idea, I think all of us go back to
- 1:23Speaker 1: Princess Die.
- 1:24Speaker 2: We've been waiting for these boys to be.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Okay, right, and so we're no matter what's happened, we're
- 1:30Speaker 1: still pulling for that. Robes, I was I don't follow
- 1:33Speaker 1: Royal news. When I heard that he was going back
- 1:36Speaker 1: with the whole family, my shoulders relaxed a little bit.
- 1:40Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Am chills thinking about the fact that they could, because
- 1:44Speaker 3: that makes me emotional, Like when you bring up Princess Diana,
- 1:48Speaker 3: you think about her looking down and thinking her two
- 1:51Speaker 3: sons don't even speak, her ex husband doesn't really even
- 1:55Speaker 3: have a relationship with his own son over what And look,
- 2:00Speaker 3: even these statements released by Prince Harry's camp and Buckingham
- 2:06Speaker 3: Palace are in competition with one another, so this is
- 2:11Speaker 3: kind of I'm curious where you fall in this. I
- 2:13Speaker 3: think we all kind of can read between the lines here.
- 2:17Speaker 3: But according to Buckingham Palace, they claim that Prince Harry
- 2:21Speaker 3: didn't confirm the invitation that was extended to him.
- 2:26Speaker 4: He declined it at.
- 2:27Speaker 3: One point but then on this same day changed his
- 2:30Speaker 3: mind and said, you know what, I will come.
- 2:32Speaker 4: I'm not going to bring the family because.
- 2:34Speaker 3: I get it fine, the British government will not allow
- 2:38Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars to be spent on securing my family, so
- 2:43Speaker 3: I won't bring them, but I would still like to come.
- 2:46Speaker 3: At that point, then Buckingham Palace comes out and says,
- 2:50Speaker 3: we don't have You didn't give us enough time to
- 2:53Speaker 3: make the necessary staffing accommodations for you. Do you buy
- 2:57Speaker 3: that Buckingham Palace couldn't from Saturday night to Monday night
- 3:02Speaker 3: have enough time to create the staffing accommodations that were
- 3:07Speaker 3: necessary to allow Prince Harry to spend one night by
- 3:11Speaker 3: himself at Buckingham Palace.
- 3:13Speaker 2: I don't know what that protocol is.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Seriously, on the surface, to an American who has nothing
- 3:20Speaker 1: to do with any of this stuff, it sounds like, huh,
- 3:23Speaker 1: all we need to do is throw him a blanket.
- 3:25Speaker 4: Here's some fresh towels that we.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Can accommodate him here quite easily, I'm saying, but I
- 3:30Speaker 1: don't know how much. Like they say staffing, I don't
- 3:32Speaker 1: know what they have to do, so it sounds far
- 3:35Speaker 1: fetched to a lay person, and whose side of the
- 3:38Speaker 1: story is this.
- 3:39Speaker 3: By the way, So that was the Buckingham Palace's side
- 3:42Speaker 3: of things. They said that he didn't give them enough
- 3:45Speaker 3: time to prepare, and by the time he finally said
- 3:48Speaker 3: he was coming, there wasn't enough time to make the
- 3:51Speaker 3: proper adjustment.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Adjustment.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Here's my question, who is it in dispute? How much
- 3:56Speaker 1: time was between them offering and before he confirmed.
- 4:00Speaker 3: The only timelines that we've been given is that on Saturday,
- 4:04Speaker 3: I believe at one point during the day he said,
- 4:07Speaker 3: we aren't coming. I'm not coming. I won't be staying there.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Excuse me, He's coming, but I won't be staying there.
- 4:12Speaker 3: And then by Saturday evening he said, you know what,
- 4:14Speaker 3: I changed my mind. I am coming, and his own
- 4:18Speaker 3: camp released a statement saying that he was looking forward
- 4:21Speaker 3: to spending the night at Buckingham Palace. And that is
- 4:24Speaker 3: when Buckingham Palace came out and said basically that the King,
- 4:28Speaker 3: King Charles had already reached out to his son, had
- 4:31Speaker 3: already explained to him that there wasn't enough time to
- 4:34Speaker 3: prepare for his visits.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so they're saying he put that statement
- 4:38Speaker 1: out knowing God hell, well, he wasn't going.
- 4:40Speaker 4: To be That was the implication. That was the implication.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Now, then Harry's camp put out another statement, at least
- 4:45Speaker 3: through his spokesperson and said it was disappointing that the
- 4:49Speaker 3: offer has now been withdrawn. And then they believe it
- 4:54Speaker 3: wasn't because staffing couldn't be adjusted. It was, in fact
- 4:58Speaker 3: because they realized that a major judgment was coming out today,
- 5:03Speaker 3: a ruling that has come out, by the way, in
- 5:05Speaker 3: this long standing case where Prince Harry, along with six
- 5:09Speaker 3: others including Sir Elton John sued the parent company of
- 5:13Speaker 3: The Daily Mail for what they called illegal practices phone tapping,
- 5:18Speaker 3: wired tapping to get information to print some tabloid stories.
- 5:22Speaker 3: And so this decision was expected today and it's Prince
- 5:26Speaker 3: Harry's camp belief that the King did not want Harry
- 5:30Speaker 3: at Buckingham Palace when that ruling came out for fear
- 5:33Speaker 3: that he would make a statement and it would look
- 5:35Speaker 3: like the Monarch was making a statement.
- 5:38Speaker 2: And that is their belief.
- 5:42Speaker 4: That is their belief.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Yes, Is that fair to say that they are publicly
- 5:47Speaker 1: making this accusation.
- 5:48Speaker 3: They are publicly making this accusation, Yes, and it must.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Be explained he rose because it again to lay person
- 5:56Speaker 1: to an American. When I hear Sussex put out a statement,
- 6:01Speaker 1: you hear Buckingham Palax put out a statement, it seemed
- 6:04Speaker 1: they all seem like royal stuff to me. But they
- 6:08Speaker 1: are not working together, absolutely not, and they are actually
- 6:12Speaker 1: absolutely warring at times even But it seems so foreign
- 6:17Speaker 1: and ridiculous that why is his camp, well, his campus, Sussex.
- 6:22Speaker 3: It's like when you get divorced and you have attorneys
- 6:25Speaker 3: speaking on your behalf, things always end up getting worse
- 6:28Speaker 3: because there is a public image that they're trying to project.
- 6:31Speaker 3: It's not two people talking about each other who once
- 6:34Speaker 3: loved each other or who are family together. It's people
- 6:37Speaker 3: who represent those folks who have warring versions of events.
- 6:42Speaker 4: And it gets it even, it makes it even worse.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Your divorce analogy is good because this feels different to me.
- 6:48Speaker 1: It's as if the divorce is two attorneys working at
- 6:52Speaker 1: the same firm. For whatever reason, I always in something, well,
- 6:56Speaker 1: it's all just royal stuff. Why aren't you working it out?
- 6:59Speaker 1: And it just seems odd that they would publicly be
- 7:02Speaker 1: going at each other.
- 7:03Speaker 3: I know, it's very uncomfortable because we're not used to
- 7:06Speaker 3: seeing this. I mean this all has been taking place
- 7:08Speaker 3: basically since Prince Harry, or at least after he married
- 7:11Speaker 3: Megan Markle and they sat down with Oprah. Ever since then, then,
- 7:14Speaker 3: of course Prince Harry's book came out, Spare.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Which one was the book that they sat down with Oprah.
- 7:20Speaker 4: About, well, they sat down with her.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I don't know if that was a book.
- 7:23Speaker 3: But then now he's released his book Spare, and so yes,
- 7:26Speaker 3: there are a lot of accusations flying around, a lot
- 7:29Speaker 3: of hurt feelings. And the final word from Harry spokesperson
- 7:32Speaker 3: was this basically because they made the connection that yes,
- 7:36Speaker 3: this ruling was coming out on the same day that
- 7:38Speaker 3: he would have been a bucking in palace, but that
- 7:40Speaker 3: palace wouldn't acknowledge that. So Harry spokesourson said, it is
- 7:43Speaker 3: therefore unclear why, having formally accepted the accommodation offer, that
- 7:48Speaker 3: it has now been withdrawn at the last moment. So yes,
- 7:52Speaker 3: they are very much saying dot dot we actually know
- 7:56Speaker 3: the real reason. Here's the timeline of what was supposed
- 7:59Speaker 3: to happen, or at least what has happened. June twenty seventh,
- 8:02Speaker 3: that is when Harry said he and his children and
- 8:05Speaker 3: Meghan were all going to come to the UK and
- 8:07Speaker 3: stay in the Royal Residence. Then June twenty eighth, Harry
- 8:10Speaker 3: reconsiders bringing his family because he finds out he's not
- 8:13Speaker 3: going to get the security detail he wanted.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Then on June.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Twenty ninth, he says that he hopes problems can still be.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Overcome to bring the family.
- 8:22Speaker 3: He's still holding out hope he can bring Megan and
- 8:24Speaker 3: the kids, but then he found out for sure it
- 8:28Speaker 3: was not going to happen. On July second, he finds
- 8:31Speaker 3: out that the court case is going to be announced
- 8:34Speaker 3: on the day he's there today July seventh, and then
- 8:38Speaker 3: it's announced that the kids aren't coming. But July sixth,
- 8:42Speaker 3: as late as Sunday, he announces that he accepts the invitation,
- 8:47Speaker 3: and hours later Buckingham Palace says, you've been informed.
- 8:51Speaker 4: That wasn't possible last night. Basically, that's tough, but that
- 8:55Speaker 4: doesn't sound right.
- 8:56Speaker 1: How would he put out a state but knowing he's
- 8:58Speaker 1: putting out false information to make his family look bad,
- 9:01Speaker 1: why would he do that?
- 9:02Speaker 3: We don't that's what the Palace is suggesting, but we
- 9:05Speaker 3: don't know if that's the case.
- 9:06Speaker 2: That's what they're saying, but they are saying publicly.
- 9:09Speaker 3: The suggestion is that Harry already knew that his father
- 9:12Speaker 3: said he couldn't stay, and he still released a statement
- 9:14Speaker 3: saying he was going to stay.
- 9:16Speaker 2: There is his dad having to okay all.
- 9:17Speaker 4: This stuff unclear. I don't know how it works there.
- 9:21Speaker 3: I know it's a tightly run ship and things that
- 9:24Speaker 3: we wouldn't think matter. Do they care deeply about the
- 9:28Speaker 3: public image of everything and everyone except for their own son,
- 9:33Speaker 3: it appears, And that's the sad thing.
- 9:35Speaker 2: But this, yeah, I really would like them to be okay.
- 9:39Speaker 1: We all have grown up and everybody around the world
- 9:42Speaker 1: has felt some pull at your heart about this family.
- 9:46Speaker 1: And it has everything to do with the mom and
- 9:49Speaker 1: for a long time, and we've been rooting for her
- 9:52Speaker 1: and for what she went through publicly, and then what
- 9:55Speaker 1: the boys from birth right little kids and so they
- 10:02Speaker 1: got their own families.
- 10:03Speaker 2: These kids should be playing together.
- 10:05Speaker 4: I know they don't even know their grandfather.
- 10:08Speaker 3: And Harry has talked about how his kids don't know London,
- 10:12Speaker 3: they don't know the UK, they don't know his homeland,
- 10:14Speaker 3: and it's so sad that he look, he doesn't feel
- 10:16Speaker 3: comfortable bringing them there because of the paparazzi, and then
- 10:19Speaker 3: to lose the case today against the paparazzi had to
- 10:22Speaker 3: be an extra sting for him. But we know that
- 10:24Speaker 3: Megan and the kids and Harry have been traveling in
- 10:27Speaker 3: Europe in the days leading up, so there is speculation
- 10:30Speaker 3: that once he leaves London and goes on to some
- 10:32Speaker 3: other parts of the UK, that they may join him
- 10:36Speaker 3: then outside of London, and that is still the hope
- 10:39Speaker 3: that that could possibly happen. They they believe Harry has
- 10:44Speaker 3: wanted to take both Megan and his children to his
- 10:46Speaker 3: mom's grave in Northampton, UK, so there is that possibility.
- 10:51Speaker 4: And he also said that look.
- 10:52Speaker 3: His dad is undergoing treatments for cancer. He doesn't know
- 10:55Speaker 3: how much longer his father has. He has even said
- 10:58Speaker 3: something to that effect, and he said he wants his
- 11:00Speaker 3: children to know their grandfather.
- 11:02Speaker 2: So there's no plan to see dad.
- 11:03Speaker 4: There is no plan.
- 11:04Speaker 3: And the last time he saw Charles was on a
- 11:08Speaker 3: solo trip to the UK last September, but he has
- 11:12Speaker 3: five days in the United Kingdom. He got there again
- 11:15Speaker 3: yesterday afternoon, so it remains to be seen if the
- 11:18Speaker 3: kids in Megan will show up in Great Britain and
- 11:20Speaker 3: it remains to be seen if somehow the King will
- 11:22Speaker 3: make an effort to see them.
- 11:24Speaker 2: I really hope they do.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Remember the King came to the White House, right, he
- 11:28Speaker 1: came to DC, and even then that we were talking
- 11:30Speaker 1: about and there was talk is he going to see
- 11:32Speaker 1: his son while he's in the US, and that didn't
- 11:35Speaker 1: have but to go that far, to be there in
- 11:38Speaker 1: London and not see that would be tough.
- 11:41Speaker 4: That is tough, all right.
- 11:42Speaker 3: But also speaking of tough, when we come back, we're
- 11:44Speaker 3: going to talk about the tough ruling that Prince Harry
- 11:48Speaker 3: was handed just a few hours ago by the High
- 11:51Speaker 3: Court in London regarding the paparazzi, the Daily Mail and
- 11:56Speaker 3: several other high profile folks who were trying to bring
- 11:59Speaker 3: down on the tactics or at least call into question
- 12:02Speaker 3: the tactics that some of these tabloid reporters use to
- 12:06Speaker 3: try and get information. And welcome back everyone to this
- 12:18Speaker 3: episode of Amy and TJ. Prince Harry is officially back
- 12:21Speaker 3: in his homeland. He's in London. Actually, he has a
- 12:25Speaker 3: series of charity events he's attending and sadly he did
- 12:30Speaker 3: not stay at Buckingham Palace last night, as we thought
- 12:34Speaker 3: at least at one point was going to happen.
- 12:36Speaker 1: You know, I don't like to stay with my folks
- 12:37Speaker 1: when I go home either, make sense, you.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Know, It's just, you know, it's better to just stay
- 12:42Speaker 3: in a hotel. And we don't know where he stayed.
- 12:43Speaker 3: By the way, a lot of people have tried to
- 12:45Speaker 3: figure out where he may have spent the night. We
- 12:47Speaker 3: don't know that. We also don't know if he might
- 12:49Speaker 3: be meeting up with the kids and with Megan, who
- 12:52Speaker 3: are reportedly in Europe somewhere as he makes his way
- 12:56Speaker 3: out of London into other parts of Great Britain.
- 12:58Speaker 4: But just a few hours ago, a major.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Blow to Prince Harry and to others, Sir Elton John,
- 13:05Speaker 3: they lost this fight, this big court fight they were
- 13:09Speaker 3: taking on the Associated Newspapers Limited, that is the parent
- 13:13Speaker 3: company of the Daily Mail. But look, we had Prince
- 13:16Speaker 3: Harry testified, he got up on the stand, he testified
- 13:19Speaker 3: that the newspaper made his wife's life a misery. But
- 13:24Speaker 3: all of his claims, all of them dismissed by the
- 13:28Speaker 3: High Court. And so what the written verdict said was
- 13:31Speaker 3: that the court could not infer that these stories had
- 13:35Speaker 3: been obtained unlawfully.
- 13:37Speaker 4: They could not infer.
- 13:39Speaker 3: That there was a legitimate that there wasn't a legitimate
- 13:42Speaker 3: and realistic way in which they could have been sourced.
- 13:45Speaker 3: They couldn't prove that they tapped their phones, that they
- 13:49Speaker 3: somehow were able to get into his voicemails. That wasn't provable,
- 13:53Speaker 3: and so they could not and they did not hold
- 13:56Speaker 3: the Daily Mail or the associated newspapers limited respect. And
- 14:00Speaker 3: of course they put out this glorious statement about how
- 14:04Speaker 3: it was magnificent vindication, and they said it was outrageous
- 14:08Speaker 3: these allegations that Prince Harry was made, was making, that
- 14:11Speaker 3: others were making, that we would actually place bugs in
- 14:14Speaker 3: people's cars at homes, that we would listen to calls
- 14:17Speaker 3: as they were made, and that we would elicitly access
- 14:20Speaker 3: bank accounts. They said no credible evidence was ever presented.
- 14:23Speaker 3: They vehemently denied it. And yes, they say they feel
- 14:26Speaker 3: vindicated that the courts upheld. And look, the courts didn't
- 14:29Speaker 3: say they didn't do it, they just said there was
- 14:32Speaker 3: no way to prove that they did it, and so
- 14:35Speaker 3: that's where it stands. So it's look, I'm sure he's
- 14:37Speaker 3: happy to be home and his publicist are out there
- 14:40Speaker 3: telling People magazine that he's having a wonderful time, he's
- 14:43Speaker 3: in good form.
- 14:44Speaker 4: He's happy to be home.
- 14:45Speaker 3: And I'm sure all of that's true, but today, certainly
- 14:48Speaker 3: like just the fact that he couldn't come home, the
- 14:51Speaker 3: fact that he couldn't stay at a family royal residence
- 14:55Speaker 3: where he grew up, that he was turned away, that
- 14:59Speaker 3: is tough. And then on top of that to get
- 15:01Speaker 3: this verdict that he was hoping for. He is in
- 15:04Speaker 3: London right now, but he will be making his way
- 15:07Speaker 3: to other parts of the country for the Invictus Games
- 15:11Speaker 3: and to celebrate that, to make the announcement of the year.
- 15:13Speaker 2: And where's the family?
- 15:14Speaker 3: The families in Europe? They said they've been spotted in Europe,
- 15:18Speaker 3: so they're nearby. That's why a lot of people believe
- 15:21Speaker 3: that Megan and the kids will join him in the UK,
- 15:23Speaker 3: just not in London.
- 15:24Speaker 1: How are they received anyway in the UK? Do the
- 15:28Speaker 1: people receive him with open arms? Do they receive her
- 15:31Speaker 1: with open arms?
- 15:32Speaker 2: Right? She was celebrated and at the time people were
- 15:35Speaker 2: very excited.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Megan the kids haven't been back in four years, babe,
- 15:38Speaker 3: So it's hard to know. It's hard to know, it's
- 15:41Speaker 3: hard to know how they would be received, and look,
- 15:43Speaker 3: without the proper security, they don't feel comfortable. I mean,
- 15:46Speaker 3: I think it's been pretty amazing. You haven't seen one
- 15:47Speaker 3: photo of those kids' faces. Now they will post a
- 15:50Speaker 3: bunch of photos, at least Megan will of the backs
- 15:53Speaker 3: of her kids in the back. I have never seen
- 15:55Speaker 3: either one of their face, so they're highly protective of
- 15:59Speaker 3: their image and they don't want the Papa Razzi to
- 16:03Speaker 3: snap a photo, and so far they've been able to
- 16:05Speaker 3: manage it, which is pretty incredible.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Just sad.
- 16:09Speaker 1: It's so weird that we sit here and I'm not
- 16:11Speaker 1: some royal watcher. It's just that's this one said, like
- 16:14Speaker 1: it you do? You get so upset. So I hope
- 16:17Speaker 1: these boys need to work it out at some point,
- 16:19Speaker 1: and I hope he gets the home have a glorious homecoming.
- 16:21Speaker 1: He should, even if he wanted to wanted to go
- 16:24Speaker 1: live in la like the whole country should be excited
- 16:27Speaker 1: that he's coming back, like the homecoming.
- 16:29Speaker 3: I agree, And I was lucky enough many many, many,
- 16:31Speaker 3: many many years to get five minutes with him, to
- 16:34Speaker 3: sit down with him and talk with him. He was
- 16:35Speaker 3: the most charming lovely, wonderful person that I have ever interviewed.
- 16:40Speaker 3: I walked away going, Wow, he's even cooler and kinder
- 16:44Speaker 3: and sweeter.
- 16:44Speaker 4: And it was the more charming than I ever could
- 16:47Speaker 4: have imagined.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Nothing against William, but he was the fun one. He
- 16:50Speaker 2: was the one we all liked.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Hey blast, and I just you know, I wish him well.
- 16:55Speaker 3: I wish him and Megan well. It's so sad to see.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Everyone's got family drama, everyone's got problems, but this one, unfortunately,
- 17:02Speaker 3: is just tough because the whole world is watching. But
- 17:05Speaker 3: we're rooting for him and we're rooting for them, so
- 17:07Speaker 3: without everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us.
- 17:10Speaker 4: I'm Amy roebuck On, behalf of TJ. Holmes. We'll talk
- 17:13Speaker 4: to you soon.