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The Late Debate | 24 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the Late Base. Good evening, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program. I'm Caleb Bond with Frey Leech and Holly Hughes.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. A teacher is fighting a
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  Speaker 1: Catholic school in court for the right to be recognized
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  Speaker 1: as non binary. Make his pronouns they them, and change
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  Speaker 1: his honorific from mister to muck's MX whatever that means
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  Speaker 1: in the papers. Meanwhile, the Daily Telegraph has the number
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  Speaker 1: of people who've officially changed the agenda on their birth
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  Speaker 1: certificates in New South Wales since the law came in
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  Speaker 1: three months ago. And swooping season is upon us and
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  Speaker 1: some people are taking creative measures, shall we say, to
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  Speaker 1: avoid fighting with birds. Will show you some of that later,
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  Speaker 1: but first I want to start with a good news
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  Speaker 1: story tonight. Yes, I know I'm not going to complain
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  Speaker 1: about something for once. They'll probably find a way to
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  Speaker 1: do it. But we'll get there. Down in South Australia
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  Speaker 1: and you would have just seen Paul Bere showing you
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  Speaker 1: the Premier of South Australia, Peter Malanowskas. He's a sensible
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  Speaker 1: guy and one of the first things he did when
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  Speaker 1: he became Premier a few years ago was to say
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  Speaker 1: we should bring back technical colleges. Once upon a time
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  Speaker 1: these were commonplace across Australia. When you got to high school,
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  Speaker 1: you either went to an academic high school or you
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  Speaker 1: went to a technical high school. If you were good
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  Speaker 1: at doing things with your hands and wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: on to do a trade, you went to a technical
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  Speaker 1: high school. And at some point along the way we
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  Speaker 1: got rid of them all. So Peter Malinowska said, I
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  Speaker 1: think we should bring them back. So he's been building
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  Speaker 1: five of these in South Australia. One at least is
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  Speaker 1: already up and running the building, one at Mayolma Mana
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  Speaker 1: actually the high school in Montbury Heights. But one of
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  Speaker 1: them is up and running at find and Finden Technical
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  Speaker 1: College and the Advertiser. One of their reporters, I write
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  Speaker 1: for the TiSER. I'm sure you know. One of their reporters,
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  Speaker 1: Shashi Baltutis, went down to find and Technical College to
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  Speaker 1: check it out. And the report he came back with,
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what, it actually fills me with a
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  Speaker 1: level of hope for the future. Take a look.
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  Speaker 2: They love how flexible the school is with you know,
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  Speaker 2: allowing me to make projects and create things that I
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  Speaker 2: really love and am passionate about. Last Friday, I was
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  Speaker 2: finishing up the frame for a mini motorbike that I
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  Speaker 2: was making.
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  Speaker 3: I'm setting my SIRT through in early childhood education in
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  Speaker 3: care and I really like going to work in my childcare.
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  Speaker 3: This week I just said up an experience for the
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  Speaker 3: children at work.
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  Speaker 4: Something interesting that I did this week was having afternoon
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  Speaker 4: to you with he care residents and just talking to them.
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  Speaker 1: Great, we need more of this. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going into a job that requires you to
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  Speaker 1: go to UNI, like age care or nursing or that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing, you can get a fast track into
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  Speaker 1: UNI early so you start doing your first year of
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  Speaker 1: university while you are in year twelve. This is brilliant, Like,
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  Speaker 1: we should just roll this out across the country. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a new idea. It used to exist and it
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  Speaker 1: should be.
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  Speaker 5: It gives me hope for the country.
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  Speaker 6: And honestly, after seeing Malanio's just talk about the Narrowbright
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  Speaker 6: gas project and we said it last night, this guy's
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  Speaker 6: going to be there.
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  Speaker 5: As long as he wants to be.
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  Speaker 6: If this is the kind of sensible stuff he's prepared
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 5: And I think this is just it.
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  Speaker 6: Actually just brings me joy that the kids are going
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  Speaker 6: and enjoying learning and learning what's going to help them
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  Speaker 6: thrive in the workplace. And it's not only the technical
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  Speaker 6: skills that they're learning, like that the kid that was
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  Speaker 6: talking about building a mini motorbike, but it's how do
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  Speaker 6: you present yourself at work?
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  Speaker 5: How do you turn up on time?
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  Speaker 6: How do you engage with colleagues who are at the
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  Speaker 6: whole range of age groups. You know, there's guys that
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  Speaker 6: they're working with there who used to be in the
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  Speaker 6: in the car production.
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  Speaker 5: Line who are now working with them in the colleges.
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  Speaker 5: I just love this.
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  Speaker 6: I think it is a good story and more and
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  Speaker 6: more kids should be looking at going down this path.
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  Speaker 4: And you're right, it did used to be quite common.
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  Speaker 4: And actually Howard brought back technical skills in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and five and I think he set up around twenty
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  Speaker 4: five and Kevin Rudd cut the funding to them.
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  Speaker 7: And actually, interestingly.
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  Speaker 4: Before the last election, Peter Dutton said he would bring
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  Speaker 4: back technical schools as an answer to Labour's free tape
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  Speaker 4: because that's their whole thing. It's let's just spray money
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  Speaker 4: at this stuff, give people free things. But a much
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  Speaker 4: better approach is let's give kids, high school kids hands
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  Speaker 4: on education. But unfortunately we know the outcome of that election,
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  Speaker 4: but it was interesting because Susan Lee was the Shadow
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  Speaker 4: Minister for Skills who put that policy forward. So hopefully
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  Speaker 4: Coalition take notes, we'll bring that technical skill.
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  Speaker 6: It's all written and costed and there bring it back
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  Speaker 6: because it's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the reason I like this so much
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  Speaker 1: is that it goes against what has been happening for
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  Speaker 1: decades now, which has been the degradation of trades and apprenticeships.
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  Speaker 1: And you go and talk to the building industry or anyone,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll say, like it is a struggle to get
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  Speaker 1: a print they cost too much these days, but to
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  Speaker 1: struggle to get the numbers and they need people. We
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  Speaker 1: know we need to build houses. We know you need plumbers,
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  Speaker 1: and you need sparkys and you need chippies. These are
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  Speaker 1: jobs that are never going to go away. And we
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  Speaker 1: have so many kids now I fear, who go through
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  Speaker 1: school and are basically told that they have to go
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  Speaker 1: to university. There's almost an expectation it's an extension of
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  Speaker 1: your schooling. So they go off to UNI, they do
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  Speaker 1: a degree for four years that cost them a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money that they have to pay back through hecks.
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  Speaker 1: They're unlikely to get a job in the field that
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  Speaker 1: they've studied, so it was all just a great waste
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  Speaker 1: of time that's not added anything to their life and
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  Speaker 1: has not added anything to society. They may get halfway
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  Speaker 1: through a degree and then you know, fail and then
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  Speaker 1: go oh, well that was it was a waste of time,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera, when they could have come straight out of
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  Speaker 1: school and gone into an apprenticeship and had a job
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  Speaker 1: in earning money from the start. You know, we talk
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  Speaker 1: about AI is going to take people's jobs away, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the sort of jobs that aren't going to be under threat,
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  Speaker 1: chippies and sparkys and plumbers and you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: need your septic tank emptied on Christmas Day, it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be an AI bot that does it for you.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be someone who charges you a heck
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of money. These are the jobs of
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  Speaker 1: the future in some way, because they're the ones that
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  Speaker 1: you cannot take away.
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  Speaker 7: From people exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the reason these technical skill schools are
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  Speaker 4: so brilliant is because they open students' minds to that
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  Speaker 4: as a possible career pathway going through school.
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  Speaker 7: There was maybe a grand.
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  Speaker 4: Total of ten minutes of discussion on alternative routes other
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  Speaker 4: than university, and of course that would depend on different schools.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, you are so pushed down the university
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  Speaker 4: track and the trades route or anything that's more hands
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  Speaker 4: on is actually disparaged. And it's like, well, if you
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  Speaker 4: don't get the marks to get into UNI, then you
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  Speaker 4: can go do that. And people underestimate how lucrative these
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  Speaker 4: roles are.
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  Speaker 7: This is a great career. You can build your own business.
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  Speaker 4: Our country would not function without amazing trades people.
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  Speaker 7: So I love these technical skills.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean I also what I like about it
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  Speaker 6: is the kids start earning money, yes, early, correct, And
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  Speaker 6: the question has been raised, at what stage should your
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  Speaker 6: teenager young adult start paying board.
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  Speaker 5: We're seeing more and more grown up kids.
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  Speaker 6: Are staying in the family home, and we know, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's expensive to rent, it's expensive to buy, so a
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  Speaker 6: lot of kids are staying for longer in the in
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  Speaker 6: the home of mum and dad, with their own bedroom
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  Speaker 6: and their laundry done. But at what point should you
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  Speaker 6: ask them to start paying board or contributing to the
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  Speaker 6: cost of the household and how much should it be,
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  Speaker 6: And of course that question was put out online and
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  Speaker 6: you know, a young man was asked by his parents
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  Speaker 6: if you should pay one hundred.
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  Speaker 5: Dollars a week.
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  Speaker 6: And of course, as you can image with days online things, there.
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  Speaker 5: Was a lot of opinions being given on this here.
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  Speaker 1: Well funny about that, and it's because Susio Brown wrote
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  Speaker 1: about it in the newsical papers. Kids, there's these new numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I think we were we might have been talking about
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  Speaker 1: it last week, about the number of kids who are
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  Speaker 1: now staying at home instead of moving out. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was eighteen to twenty nine. I've lost the number year. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's more than fifty percent, yeah, right, which is significant. Now.
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  Speaker 5: I was told it's more boys than girls.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, and which is say for mummies
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  Speaker 6: cooking and boundary skills.
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  Speaker 1: That day, why wouldn't you. And they don't let they
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  Speaker 1: don't let the boys or some if this is anyway,
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  Speaker 1: they don't let the boys leave until they get married
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  Speaker 1: and all this sort of business. But my deal was
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  Speaker 1: that if I got a full time job, I had
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  Speaker 1: to pay board and I thought that was fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: I got a full time job at seventeen, and so
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  Speaker 1: I had to pay up. And actually I did a
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  Speaker 1: deal with my parents because I had some money in
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  Speaker 1: the bank and I wanted to buy my first car.
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  Speaker 5: So we were just like every parent's perfect child.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily say that in
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  Speaker 1: some ways bad.
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  Speaker 5: Look.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't out on the drugs all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but it was on the booze. But anyway, so you
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  Speaker 1: start working in the newsroom at seventeen. These are the
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  Speaker 1: sort of.
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  Speaker 6: Things Nostralia, the yeah sixteens.
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  Speaker 1: But I had some money in the back of want
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  Speaker 1: to buy my first car. So I brought my car
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  Speaker 1: off my parents and gave them an advance on my board,
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  Speaker 1: and in doing so got a discount because they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do some renovations on the house. So I said,
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  Speaker 1: here's the money, and I got a discount on the board.
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  Speaker 1: So I was doing deals quite early, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: there was a smart thing to do. But my brother,
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  Speaker 1: he's a couple of three years younger than me, right,
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  Speaker 1: still lives at home eating if you're watching, and he
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  Speaker 1: pays no board despite the fact that he works because
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  Speaker 1: he works four days a week and he's casual and
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  Speaker 1: so the terms were full time and he hasn't met them,
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  Speaker 1: and so he's never paid a cent, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's crap. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I think it really depends on the individuals situation
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  Speaker 4: and what your kids are like.
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  Speaker 7: Personally, I was always a saver.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as I started earning money, I was saving
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  Speaker 4: every single penny, and so I don't think my parents
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  Speaker 4: had any concerns. They didn't need to institute board as
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  Speaker 4: a way to get me to have some financial discipline.
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  Speaker 7: My brother as well.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, my older brother also still lives at home with
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  Speaker 4: my parents.
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  Speaker 7: While I had a mortgage, yeah on my apartment.
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  Speaker 4: But to his credit, he is studying, teaching and doing
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  Speaker 4: full time placements where he's not paid. So again, it
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  Speaker 4: does depend on the situation. But if you've got kids
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  Speaker 4: that struggle to save money, I think having to pay
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  Speaker 4: bills every week is good disciplined, do you know?
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  Speaker 6: Though, obviously this is all about the brothers, and if
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  Speaker 6: my brother Sam's watching, he is not living our parents
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  Speaker 6: so are gone, so he's certainly not at home living
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  Speaker 6: with our parents. He's married with his own family.
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  Speaker 5: Now, but he was very clever.
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  Speaker 6: I went away to university and got a hextep like
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  Speaker 6: everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: It goes to you to most other people go to university.
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  Speaker 6: Because my brother managed to convince my mother of the
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  Speaker 6: discount you get up front. So he was living at home,
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  Speaker 6: and so mum then paid his university fees because he
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  Speaker 6: convinced her about this great discount that they got if
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  Speaker 6: they paid them up front. But until this day, I
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  Speaker 6: still give him a hard time because Mum used to
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  Speaker 6: make his lunch to take to university, and it became
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  Speaker 6: real the joke in our household, because I'm serious. My
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  Speaker 6: mum would make him Jat's crackers with butter and veggie,
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  Speaker 6: might two together, and they'd be like, you know, six
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  Speaker 6: pairs of them, all.
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  Speaker 5: Wrapped in glad wrap. And I would come.
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  Speaker 6: You know, by this stage, I'm six years older, so
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  Speaker 6: I'd finished studio and was out of home and would
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  Speaker 6: come back for a visit.
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  Speaker 5: And be just endlessly entertained.
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  Speaker 6: But I am now a mother of sons, and I
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  Speaker 6: would just like to say I understand that a lot
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  Speaker 6: more now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, look, and I think it's the principle of it.
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  Speaker 1: It is saying that you have responsibilities in this world,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't get things for free, even if it's
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  Speaker 1: a nominal amount of money. It's just the principle of
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  Speaker 1: you are paying to live under someone else's roof, even
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  Speaker 1: if they're your parents, and like the money you pay,
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  Speaker 1: you're always going to get more for that money in
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  Speaker 1: terms of food and whatever anyway, So don't complain about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I can't get over the number of parents who
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  Speaker 1: bulk at the idea of charging their kids board and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, but you know, he can't afford it,
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  Speaker 1: and all this sort of garbage. Molly coddling your kids
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  Speaker 1: is why they stay at home, It's why they can't
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  Speaker 1: get a job, It's why they turn out mendicant, useless,
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  Speaker 1: no good members of society.
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  Speaker 5: You'd stop sitting on the fence with them.
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  Speaker 1: You had to teach your kids rights and responsibilities, give
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  Speaker 1: them some responsibility in the world. You know, no wonder
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  Speaker 1: they are. Mummy's doing this, mummy's doing that. No, if
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  Speaker 1: you're eighteen, look after yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree, but we have to have
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  Speaker 4: some grace here as well.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm sure parents love their kids and it's out of.
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  Speaker 4: Love that they don't want to chuck them out onto
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  Speaker 4: the street if they're late on their board.
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  Speaker 1: Well I sure. Look you know when I moved out
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  Speaker 1: of home and I bought my first place at twenty
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  Speaker 1: as well, I moved out of home and Mum could
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  Speaker 1: not have taken over my bedroom quick enough and turned
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  Speaker 1: it into the bloody you know, craft room and all
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  Speaker 1: this sort of gear. But you know how many times
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  Speaker 1: a week she sort of texts means or or I
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  Speaker 1: wish you didn't move into stone. So they want to
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  Speaker 1: get you out of there, but they do wish.
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  Speaker 7: You'd get They always wish you'd come back.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of young people and education, there's a Catholic school
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  Speaker 4: down in Victoria, Sacred Hearts Girls' School in Oakley. Now
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  Speaker 4: they could become the test case for whether religious schools
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  Speaker 4: have the ability to discriminate against employees who would like
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  Speaker 4: to use non binary pronouns. There's a teacher down there,
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  Speaker 4: Micah Saunders, who is math teacher. Two years ago, at
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  Speaker 4: a queer support meaning for students, he came out as
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  Speaker 4: non binary and then requested that everyone use mix instead
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  Speaker 4: of mister m X. That's the gender neutral pronoun for
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  Speaker 4: mister and missus. And basically the principal said no, this
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  Speaker 4: is a Catholic school. That's very bizarre, got told off
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  Speaker 4: for having a pride.
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  Speaker 7: Sticker, etc. Etc.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now that is going to the Melbourne Magistrates Court
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  Speaker 4: and it could end up all the way in the
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  Speaker 4: High Court and really be a test case for whether
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  Speaker 4: religious schools do have the ability to enforce normal pronouns
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  Speaker 4: and discriminate against non binary teachers. Now, under the Sex
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  Speaker 4: Discrimination Act, under a lot of our antidiscrimination laws, there
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  Speaker 4: are exemptions for religious institutions, but we do know labors
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  Speaker 4: trying to narrow them. But I think if you're a
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  Speaker 4: religious institution, that's why you exist. People get employed there
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  Speaker 4: knowing that is the purpose.
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  Speaker 7: For your existence.
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  Speaker 4: Of course they should be able to demand that you
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  Speaker 4: uphold those values.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think parents send their kids to those.
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  Speaker 6: Schools because they expect those values to be upheld. And
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's always nice being with the gen z
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  Speaker 6: who can actually explain to me how to pronounce these pronouns,
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  Speaker 6: because I had absolutely no idea how you actually said MX.
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  Speaker 1: That's me any joy to advise you how to do it.
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  Speaker 6: Look, but can I just tell you I did I
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  Speaker 6: did say something you know on the gram because I'm
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  Speaker 6: not completely old and outdated on the Instagram that in
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  Speaker 6: Italian non binary is non binario or non bnaria, depending
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  Speaker 6: on your gender.
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  Speaker 1: And I just thought that was the best I had ever.
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  Speaker 1: I think I proved it all. And look, I never
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  Speaker 1: thought i'd see the day where MX mix would actually
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  Speaker 1: be printed in a newspaper article as a genuine salutation
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  Speaker 1: for someone who wouldn't have flown when I was a cadet,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you. But here we are in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, I suppose. But there's always anti discrimination laws,
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  Speaker 1: and as you say, there are exemptions for religious organizations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my view really is that it shouldn't really
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  Speaker 1: matter whether you're a religious organization or not. If you
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  Speaker 1: are a business or a school or any other outfit
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  Speaker 1: that employs people, and you make clear outwardly what your
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  Speaker 1: values are, religious or otherwise, and someone then comes into
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  Speaker 1: that workplace and says, no, but you are wrong, and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you must adapt for me, go and get a job
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. You know, if the values of the school
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: are not your values, bugga trying to change the school's values,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: because that's never going to happen. Don't get them to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: conform to you. You go and get a job somewhere else.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: But this is, I suppose, broadly what you have seen
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: in the non binary movement, if you want to call
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: it that, and you see the same in the transgender movement,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is that the rest of the world has to adapt
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to me to make me feel better. No, we don't.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: But you can also imagine this will become like the
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: next giggle versus tickle kind of my core case, where
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: the Catholic Church is going to have to determine whether
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: or not they have to accept this sort of you know, dictate.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: I have no doubt Equality Australia's out there at the
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: moment getting this guy on the phone saying, don't worry,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: we'll bankroll all of your case that as highre as
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: you want to go, because you know this is this
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: is what these people are.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: He's actually said that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: So in the article, the teacher said, I'm not just
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: doing this for me, I'm doing this for.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Everyone else, every non binary person.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: Who comes in my eyes rolling that is the problem,
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: right If this is not a genuine Oh, I'm just
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: so oppressed I need to go by mix otherwise my
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: life is over.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: These are generally used as test cases to push the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: envelope and slowly but surely undermine reality and the rights
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: of religious organizations to maintain their value. So we have
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to push back against this.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Indeed, well, we're in Melbourne and sticking with issues of gender.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: You might have heard of the Savage Club. It is
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: one of the exclusive men's clubs in Melbourne, and they
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: decided a few months ago Saturday June that they were
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: going to run a trial allowing women to come into
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the club for lunch on Tuesdays and Wednesdays because they're
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: apparently a bit worried that the dining room wasn't being
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: used enough and previously women could only come in for
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: specific eventsnet had to be after four point thirty pm.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: So they said, we'll let the birds come in Tuesday
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Wednesday for a bit of notch. A couple of the blokes,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: or some of them anyway, are upset about this, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: so they're holding tomorrow an extraordinary meeting to discuss the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: fact that women are being allowed into the club. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I must say some of the quotes is an email
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that was sent around advising of this meeting. Some of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the quotes out of it are just magnificent. This is
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: reading from the newspaper report. A group of members reportedly
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: called the Extraordinary General Meeting, writing in an email, this
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: is the herald Son that the loud and boisterous bohemian
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: behavior that the institution was well known for will now
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: have to be quote tempered for fear of us setting
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a Karen at the other end of the dining room
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: if women were allowed to die. One of the other
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: things that was put forward in this email by the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: members or some of the members who are unhappy with
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this trial, was that our wives will no longer have
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the comfort of knowing that we're at a male only venue,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: so long hours spent at the club will no longer
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: be viewed as favorably on the home front because brevious decreds. Hey,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just down at the Savage Club, and the wife
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: would go, oh, all I suppose is just hanging out
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: with the blokes. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: now the wives are going to be jealous because all
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: these women.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Are coming into the club rambunctious, now boisterous equipment.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I know for Tuesday and Wednesday. Now, look, you know
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it is up to the club to make its own decisions.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, Obviously at the moment, the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: official decision of the club is that they're running this trial,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: but the members are well within their rights to say
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: we want the trial to end because it is a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: men's club, and you know, a lot of people would argue, well,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it's wrong. Of course women should be allowed in there.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It's a men's club for men, Like, why do women
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: need to be allowed in a men's club?
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: There are well, you're allowed in our bathrooms.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: You might have got me on that one. But there
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: are equivalent women's clubs. You know, in Adelaide there's the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Adelaide Club and there's the Greeen Adelaide Club. I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: it's the Athenaeum Club in Melbourne is the equivalent of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the Melbourne Club. They exist for women. So women go
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to the women's clubs, men go to the men's clubs,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and can't we all just move on like that, Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we'll go to a mixed club if you want to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: go to a mixed club.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: And in this club, they did do a survey which
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: found only four out of four hundred and fifty eight
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: members supported accepting women as members, So it's extremely unpopular
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: one percent of club members and I think that's the principle.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Everyone should be entitled to their own single sex spaces.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Men should be able to have their men's club, women
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: their's and there are co ed clubs as well.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I'm a member of the co Ed Club.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I'm a member of the Royal Automobile Club and have
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: been for.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: A very long time.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: And you know, it's a great club with great reciprocal rights.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: And when I go to Melbourne, I do tend to
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: stay at the Athenaeum and.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Use those rights.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: But I do have a story about the Melbourne Club.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I was invited.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: It was a Liberal Party federal convention in Melbourne and
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: the Sophotel was the venue, so across the road was
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: the Melbourne Club and.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: A friend of mine said, let's have lunch.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: He's a member of the Australia Club in Sydney, so
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: it's a reciprocal club.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: He said, I'll meet you over there at twelve thirty.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: I would have been better off being green with three
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: heads than the response I received when I walked through
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: the front door, and if I wasn't being followed in
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: by then Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who said, hey, holds.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: How are you and go meet kiss hello.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: I think they may have picked me up and thrown
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: me out on the street, but they actually shepherded me
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: into the walk in closet to then go and locate
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: my friend who had invited me for lunch, who very
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: embarrassingly had to come and say to me, I'm so sorry,
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: I didn't know you couldn't come in for lunch and
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: shepherd me out the door to go to a restaurant
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: that does allow women in at lunchtime. But I mean, honestly,
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: the look on these people's face. I don't know what
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: they thought I was going to do to them in there,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: but it was the most bizarre reaction I have ever received.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So just in my life, just to be clear, you
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: have the distinction of having come out of the closet
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at the Melbourne Clubs.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: I have come out of the closet at the Melbourne club.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Ah. Dear. Now let's go over to the United States. So,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of course we won't go into too much detail because
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen all the clips being played tonight.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump at the un of course, is what I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: talking about, but I will show you a couple of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the highlights. It didn't mince his words at any point
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in this speech. His teleprompter wasn't working from the beginning,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so presumably a lot of this he was just winging
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it on the fly. My god, did he hit every
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: point beautifully, one of them in particular about migration.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: When your prisons are filled with so called asylum seekers
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: who repaid kindness, and that's what they did, they repaid
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: kindness with crime, it's time to end the failed experiment
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: of open borders. You have to end it now, I said,
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: I can tell you I'm really good at this stuff.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: Your countries are going to hell.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Oh man. He is made for television, isn't it. It
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is just great. If you want a good summation of
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: all of it, I'd recommend you go and watch Peter
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Kreedlin's editorial from earlier this evening. She wrapped up really
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: well what he was getting on about and why it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: was so important. But of course, as I said before,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that didn't work from the start of the speech, and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: on his way in he went to get on the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: escalator up with his wife, the Millania, the first lady,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and the escalator stopped working. Like they've taken about two
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: steps onto the escalator, and the thing immediately froze up,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and so there have been questions about whether or not
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: someone did that deliberately. They've also asked the same questions
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: about the teleprompter, whether someone did that deliberately just to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: miss with Donald Trump. I suppose it is the un
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: after all, he addressed these incidents in his speech.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: All I got from the United Nations was an escalator
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: that on the way up stopped right in the middle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: If the first lady wasn't in great shape, you would
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: have fallen.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And then a.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: Teleprompter that didn't work. These are the two things I
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: got from the United Nations. A bad escalator and a
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: bad teleprompter.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Fantastic. So I suppose the question is was it deliberate
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, I definitely think it's very suspicious that both the
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: escalator and the teleprompter were wrong. Caroline leave At, the
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: White House spokesperson, also said that apparently the audio levels
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: in the chamber were lower for Trump than for.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: The speaker before.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: So I think when you put all that together, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberate, But thank goodness
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: it was. Trump and Milani are on the escalator, not
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Jill and Joe Biden. They would have been rolling back
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: to Washington, DC, might have.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Would have definitely not been getting on the escalator at all.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: They would have had to get the walker.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Up in a lift, and they would have had to
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: hide it from public view. But the look on Mullaniu's
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: face is actually perfection. So just don't don't always focus
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: on the Trump. Have a look at Mulaniu's face, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: it is just pure gold. The way she turns around
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: and glares at someone when this thing just goes stop
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: as soon as they step ony, but.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: She just takes off. I mean, I'm still They're like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: what's going on? You to fix it?
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: She's got a cardio.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: They don't like him, but they're going to keep him
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: alive longer by getting him to walk up.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You know, look when he managed to get up the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: steps without stumbling.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: That's true and it really was.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, the whole speech, everything about Trump's appearance was
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: just a masterclass in dressing down the globalist international order
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: at the UN.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: And it's true.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Everything he said right the building is emblematic of how
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: failed it is as an institution. He's stopped all these wars.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: What has the UN achieved? They've given out so much
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: money and aid. Where are the results they're now recognizing
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: a Palestinian state, Well, the hostages still aren't home. I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: he just ran through every single hypocrisy that is at
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the core of the United Nations. And to just have
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: a president spelling out so clearly directly to their face,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it was glorious.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: The whole thing was just it was spectacular. There is
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: no other word for it. And I mean the way
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: he made the point that it is the kindness of
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: countries that you know, allow people to come in and
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: then they repay that kindness by committee crimes is well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: let's you know, it's what happened with then Zyq and
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: what did our High court go?
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: Go?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, actually now you can't detain them?
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: And I think this is what he's just gone in
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: and said, Nope, we aren't not happening anymore. The conjob
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: that is renewable energy and the way that it was working,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: this is just perfection. And all of these world leaders
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: sitting around looking at him have recognized Palestine, who've announced
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: these ridiculous climate the climate emissions.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Targets, who are the open border stuff?
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: And we know that the UN is focused on one world,
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: one government, and for him to just tear it all
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: apart was just absolute perfection.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And he leaned into the fascical nature of the UN
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and skewered it so well. And look, one thing I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: would say to the UN is look what Donald Trump
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: has done with NATO. If you actually listen to the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: guy and treat him seriously, he can do a great
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: deal of good for you. And NATO has worked that out.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Sure that you win is quite that farst.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Yes, exactly.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: And the left, I mean they always implode and tear
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: themselves apart.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: And the same thing is happening over in the UK.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Jeremy Corbyn has left the Labor.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Party and is now forming his own new radical left
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: wing party. There are six founding members of this party
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: and they're already at war with each other. They've got
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: this firebrand woman in there called Zara Sultana.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: Who was claiming she was a.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Co founder but then objected to the name, then threatened
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: to sue them over a dispute in launching a membership portal,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: and is now accusing Corbyn's new party of being a
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: sexist boys club.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: So three months into the.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Party and one of its founding members is already accusing them.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I mean this sounds like it could be a Liberal
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Party convention honestly.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But he has no electoral success to show, and so
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit confused what he thinks he's going to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: be able to do with this party. I mean, read
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the tea leaves, fella. There is a change in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: political spectrum and feeling in the United Kingdom, but it's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: going in completely the opposite direction. And so if he
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be able to be the reform
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of the left by going even further to the left,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: when clearly you've got a party that's going further to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the right that's won every published opinion poll since May.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know who he thinks is going to buy
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: his product.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Well, no, he has claimed that his new party is
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: going to be the polar opposite of reform.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: That is their hole work hit.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you're going to be the polar opposite of
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the most popular party in.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: Britain right now, let's see how that goes.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: The big problem that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Is an issue when you look at the UK voting
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: system though it is first past the post, so if
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: there are they left wing areas like we know with
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: some of our own inner city seats.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Than you. You just never know where the first passed
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: the post.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: And when it's voluntary voting and you're appealing to a base,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: it's a bit of a worry.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: See what happens I suppose now. Look, I know it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the bane of many people's existence when they end up
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in a middle seat on a flight, or you're in
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: ct A or seat C or D or F and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the person in the middle seat next to you is
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: shall we say, rotund, and you know you're sort of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: squeezed in a bit and you haven't got much room
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to move. I know I've been in that situation before.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It's not terribly comfortable. So Virgin Australia, I reckon they
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: have an answer to it, which is that they are
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: going to put out an auction to have a seat
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: without someone sitting next to you. So if they have
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: surplus seats available on a flight they haven't sold them all,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to enter into a bidding war to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: have a seat that is next to an empty one,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: so you could be in the window seat, that you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: could be in the aisle seat and have the middle
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: seat free. You know, I think they're saying bidding will
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: start at thirty bucks or something, and we'll wait and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: see how much you have to pay in the end,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I suppose seems like a great idea. I mean, if
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you've got the opportunity to pay to not have someone
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: sitting next to you, particularly on international flights, I think
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: people would be more than willing to pay for it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I think definitely international flights, and even long haul
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: domestic flights. If you're flying over to Perth it's a
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: long way. I would totally go for this. But I
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: do also think Virgin is clearly looking for any way
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: to monetize their flying. First, there selling the space underneath
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: your seat for your dogs to fly, and now the
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: empty seat next to you can also buy. I mean,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: what's next extra overhead locker space.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: I don't know, but I actually.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: The overhead locker is not a bad idea.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Now you've said that, because how many times have you
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: got on a domestic fly and because everyone goes on
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: carry on now and the flight attendants look at you
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: and go, well, there's no room. If you could pre
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: book the space above you, rather than having to slap
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: up the back of the plane to find some overhead
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: space with a Virgin, there you go.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: We've got a new idea for you.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: No checking luggage either.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Don't give them ideas for how to squeeze more money out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it's all, it's all, but you know.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: So I was going on an overseas trip in the
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: airline we were flying has an auction that you can
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: bid for upgrades, and I had done that, put the
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: bid in for the upgrade, and when we got to
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: the airport, I was actually flying back from Canberra, so
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: we were the first people in the queue to check
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: in because they hadn't opened the flight when I arrived
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: from Canbra and I said, oh, look, we'd enter, you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: to just wondered if there's any upgrades available.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: The upgrade I ended up getting for both.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Me and my husband was less than what I had
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: bid that had been unsuccessful. So somehow or other in
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: that way that it was working. I actually paid less
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: at the gate to get the upgrade than what I
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: have been So.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know how this works, anyway, I'm all for it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Can I give a little note as well to the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: airlines and say the whole point of going to an
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: airport lounge is that you can drink at any time
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of day. Why in the domestic lounges Quantus and Virgin
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Do they make you wait until midday? I want my
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: breakfast beer. God damn it, I'm on holiday.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: And it's midday somewhere.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, very quickly before we get to a break
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: very interesting story out of South Australia. A guy who
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was an Uber driver and had his account canceled by
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Uber because he got into a scuffle with some blokes
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: who were doing drugs in the back of his car
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and obviously had an altercation with them. But those guys
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: then made a complaint to Uber and said that he
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: tried to pull the swifty on them, so Uber took
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: his accounterway. So he went off and complained to the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Fair Work Commission. And for the first time ever, we
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: now have a gig economy worker who has been given
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: compensation for lost income because he wrongly had his ability
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to work taken away from him by Uber. So this
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sets the precedent now that you know you can complain
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that Uber or any other service has taken away your
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: ability to work get compensation for lost income if they
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: do so wrongly. I just wonder can that be extended
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to like social media, like if you do your business
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: fundamentally on social media and your account is wrongly suspended,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: do you start going after X and Facebook and whatever
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: through the courts. I don't know.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Well, probably not social media because in that case you're
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: uploading your content to a platform. So it's going to
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: be more for task based sites, so Uber and tasker
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: platforms like that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: But it would be interesting if you're doing.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Bookings and appointments through some of these platforms. Through Facebook
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: you can do bookings or Google. Even if your website
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: gets taken down and then you lose you there probably
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: could be an argument that you have been unfairly deactivated and.
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: You are a gig worker. So I think this, I.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Mean, all of Labour's industrial relations laws have just opened
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: up the floodgate for so much litigation and exactly what
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: we need in the middle of a productivity crisis.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: We shall see. There's actually a story relating to the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: social media stuff. Someone who's lost a lot of money
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: because their Instagram account got banned on the front of
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: one of the papers tomorrow will take a look at
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that shortly, and also on the front of the Daily Telegraph,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the number of people who've changed the agenda on their
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: birth certificate since the law came in allowing you to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: do that three months ago. Don't go well, you know
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: what you get in this segment. Tomorrow's News Tonight will
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: start with the Herald Sun.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow, Holly and Tomorrow I think is going to be
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: across the country wall to wall.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: I know you've already seen it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: Don worry, be snappy, the absolute cringe worthy selfie that
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: the Prime Minister managed to get for himself, So snub
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: to selfie. Albo finally gets meeting with Trump as President
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: unleashes on world leaders.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: After several knockbacks.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Anthony Albanez he was delighted to score one on one
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: time with Donald Trump. I mean, you can just imagine.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Oh god, look at it. I mean, it's just it's awful.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: It is just awful.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: And I mean you can imagine Albo getting the phone
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: out of his out of his jacket and getting it
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: up there, and he's probably a bit cranky with Jody
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: that she wasn't close enough behind him to actually take
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: it on portrait mode or get a really poper one
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: of them standing next to each other. But if that's
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: how Albo sees that our relationship with the US has
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: gone that a selfie that he probably knocked a couple
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: of other world leaders out of the way to get
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: to is emblematic of his strong relationship with the US.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what. You know what struck me about
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the if we can get the further back up, please,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the thing that really struck me, it's the front page.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And the thing that really struck me is the chompers
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: on Donald Trump have a there's that much.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Flu right in the water in the US. They've all
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: got creater.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You could brush your hair in the reflection off of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: those two.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: It's almost like a Travago commercial.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Chat, you know that chat in the Travago commercial which
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you can see on this channel.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: And he does have the serious it's got to be
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: part of.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: The John his name is Jurgen Klop and he wants
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: to know that he is a very famous football manager
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: from Europe. I just give him as the Travago guy
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: until someone said no, you no, like he's a serious dude.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Well maybe you can find the.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Po We're going through an adult model book and going
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: this is our guy for the face we will give
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: the run.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe Trump has actually started a global trend of
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: men with these incredible teeth, and I heard you can
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: get a discount if you go to Thailand as well.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: The top of the line for him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: The Australian tomorrow will keep on the Donald Trump theme,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: because of course you've got the picture there again the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: pearly whites there with mister Alban Easy. I noticed his
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: aren't quite as white. But how about this photo of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Chris Bowen and Kevin Rudd having a little romance time
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: with the Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, Because that's the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: guy we want to be.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Trump's mortal enemy, is Gavin Newsom.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: And there is our ambassador who's already known to have
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: said the most horrible things about Donald Trump. And we
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: know that the staffers know that Donald still knows. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: that's potentially why there's a problem getting, particularly from Rudd's perspective, into.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: The White House. But the fat that he's giving this weirdly.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Strong embrace to someone who Trump would not consider a friend.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: On the day that Albineezy announcing they've locked in a meeting,
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: I will be very interested to see if this meeting
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: actually goes ahead, and if Kevin Rudd and Chris Bowen
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: keep having engagements like this and interjecting into the relationship.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Trump just might have to be somewhere else.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: But also, sorry, what's Bowen doing in the background of
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: that photo?
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: Do you see the.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Side giving like he's just mad he's not in on.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: The hut as well? Come on, he's given that side
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: up because you see the engagements like this. Look you
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: look at that photo. There might be an actually engagement
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in the office. Another story on the front of the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Olds tomorrow, rude shock for Albaniz, He's green dreamers, state
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: digs in on cold Oh who would have thought. Queensland
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: has delivered a sledgehammer blow to Anthony Albaneze's climate change
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: of gender, with the Christophooley government planning a roadmap to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: keep coal far past open for decades, as energy bosses
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: say they're preparing to keep their coal plants open for
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: longer in the likelihood there are delays in the renewables rollout,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: which there will be. Queensland Treasurer David Janitski said coal
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: would play a part in the state's greed into at
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: least the twenty forties, in a blow to the Albanezi
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: government's chances of reaching its twenty thirty and twenty thirty
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: five emissions reductions target. I mean they've just said the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: quiet part out loud right. All of these coal fired
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: power plants that they said they were going to shut down,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: they keep extending the life of them anyway. This is
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. We've just got a government now
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that has the balls to call out the truth.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, versus Victoria and New South Wales where the government
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: has to strike secret deals with these coal companies so
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: they will pay for the losses that these coal plants
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: might make just to keep them open, because otherwise our
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: energy greed will not function. At least the Queensland government's
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: being honest about it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I would really hope that christ If
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Phillie could actually go all in this and go, you
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: know what, We're going to upgrade some of the cold
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: fire power stations. We're going to put Kelly col firepowerstations in.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: I'm going to extend the life because there is absolutely
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: no way coal is going anywhere out of the grid
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: at any time soon.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent, and Queensland businesses will benefit greatly from
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: cheap power. In the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, certified madness hundreds
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: changing gender every month. Several hundred people in New South
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Wales have changed their gender on their birth certificate since
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: controversial laws were implemented by the state government three months ago,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: prompting concerns about the safety and welfare of women. The
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Daily Telegraph can reveal that seven hundred and sixty six
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: people in New South Wales have changed their sex on
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: their birth certificate without gender affirmation surgery, a medical procedure,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: has no longer been required to apply for a change
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: of sex in New South Wales.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: Since July one.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: So there you have it, folks, all that it's pigs
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: in New South Wales. To change your agenda is a
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: couple of minutes online self declaration and you can change
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: your birth certificate.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: That's it. It's absolutely bonkers.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: I might join the Australia Club tomorrow.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: Change my gender and can question me and I might
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: join the Australia clubs.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: It's just honestly, it's ludicrous.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It's a denial of reality. You know, you can at
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: least commit to the bit. You know, if you're going
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to have the surgery, maybe we can talk about it then.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: But like if you're just going to say, oh yeah,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to go down to birth, deaths and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: marriages and have my gender change. And you can do
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: it multiple times as well, so you can be a
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: woman one year and a bloke the next, and a
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: non binary. It's just it is just wrong. We'll move
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: on to the world.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: The world has gone mad, but Adelaide seems to be
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: giving us a bit of hope.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: You know, mel An Askis and his college is doing great.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: You know, he's sporting Narrabrian. The Santos Project all good,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: but we do have.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Duney buggets and exclusive in the TiSER seerage filled trust
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: home to be fixed then torn down. A single mum
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: of four in a housing trust home which has pooh
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: rising up through drains, black mold and no indoor toilet
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: or shower after the plumbing failed is aghast. The public
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: servants plan to have the property renovated then demolished.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: So I assume that this lady.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: Would like to be moved to a new house that
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: has indoor plumbing, the works. But I think the point
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: that she's making, and this is typical bureaucracy and government
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: planning that just makes no sense, is that they're going
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: to renovate the house at a cost of around fifty
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars to then demolish it two years later. I mean,
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: either demolish it now and rebuild, or renovate it and
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: move the demolished date or whatever it is too much
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: later that this is just bureaucratic matter.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: You've just got to love government Dutch and very quickly
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: on the front of the ten Will Bullis and tomorrow
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Meta madness towns. Will dumonuses techno tech giant. Meta is
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: hurting small businesses after its Instagram was disabled three times
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: for breaching community standards, and of course he says he
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. And this goes back to what I
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: was talking about before. You could potentially see cases like
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: this ending up in courts where people say, well, you've
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: hurt my business because you have wrongly taken away my
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: social media account. After the break, what do you do
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: when you come across the swooping bird? I think we've
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: all been in that situation before, But is it as
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: bad as the one I'm about to show you? Stick
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: around the sea now? Of course, is the weather heats up,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: we'll get into birds swooping season, And if you've ever
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: had to deal with it before, you know, people come
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: up with all sorts of creative ideas. You see cyclists
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: getting around with the cable ties on their helmets and
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: all this sort of business. There are certain places if
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you go for a walk, you are literally scared for
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: your life because one of these things may descalp you. Well,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: one woman has to deal with it. When she puts
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: her clothes on the line, she's put a helmet on.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Take a look.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: Why do you wear a helmet to hang out laundry?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: See why she's wearing the helmet. Can you imagine if
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you weren't wearing the helmet and the bird near the cloth,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like that thing will rid your head apart. And it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: a butcher bird. And I have to say I couldn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have identified a butcher bird until I saw this story.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And when I looked up butcherbird, I realized this one
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that comes and sits on my balcony every day, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I feed him, and so I will definitely not stop
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: feeding him now because he might start swooping me. The
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: tats away.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Well, it's all about protecting their nests and protecting their
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: own backyard.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: And I just love this vision.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I think this could be second only to Trump's spectacular
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: speech at the UN last night was the footage that
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: we saw of French President Emmanuel Macron making a direct call,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: who we can only assume was to President Trump himself
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: after President Macron's motiicaid got stopped in anticipation of the
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: President of the United States, motiicaid coming through New York
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: and where he gets on the phone, We'll just have
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: a listen after.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Ten people with me. So I got to the French
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: impassing because.
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: I was not law.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm President, I'm wing.
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: Sorry.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's just that everything's in tols of red Ou. There's
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: a portal kick coming week.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: That's what.
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: How are you guess what?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a waiting just because everything is posen for you.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I just love it so much. But I love that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: Mccron then said, I can't even see him coming, so
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: I'm just.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Going to walk him.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Mostroad they wouldn't let him take his car, but he walked.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: He had selfies with people better than the ones that
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: our prime minister got.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Someone came up and gave him a kiss.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: But I think message to Latiker Burke after asking questions
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: of Albanezi today and reminding him of his debate claims
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: we now have proof that Trump has a cell phone.
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: It is true. It's pretty cool.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: And another cool celemony moment was Harry Styles, who entered
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: the Berlin Marathon under a pseudonym Staid Sarandos and ended
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: up running a sub three hour marathon.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: That's extremely impressive.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: That means he did four minutes per kilometer for the
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: full forty two kilometers, which is a very impressive feat.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: And no one knew till he rocked up at the
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: finish line and it was boom Harry Styles, So good
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: on him.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the rock and roll lifestyle
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is actually good for your health.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: If you ever see me running, just just try and
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: kill what's chasing
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: For joining us today thinks to redepand in your show,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: good night,