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- 0:01[SPEAKER_00]: Man's looking the other way this time for the end zone.
- 0:03[SPEAKER_00]: Lost in, meet the catch, touchdown.
- 0:07[SPEAKER_00]: One an effort and one a throw from Manza.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: They got the three now, can they pair on for the other touchdown and make it a one score game.
- 0:17[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Manza, Bucke.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_00]: Touchdown.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_00]: The Duke connection comes through for the rarecats.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_00]: And they're within a score on the road.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_00]: The action there's barcade on the slant, it's a touchdown.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect placement for Metza and again, Miami's there with a response.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_00]: Metza steps up, Metza gets away, directing traffic.
- 0:44[SPEAKER_00]: Looking in, it's caught.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_00]: Elijah Lofty is out of bounds and complete.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_00]: And by ages, Notre Dame will get the stop as Lofton could not hang on to the football.
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- 1:15[SPEAKER_03]: Here's toast, Roman and Scoop.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_05]: Your minor hurricanes lost at Notre Dame 31-24, while we're here, Rope.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's the recap show.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_01]: It's the recap show.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_02]: We lost it and we lost it at what's the place called South Bend in 40 degrees.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it mattered.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_02]: No, we look cold.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, look at, I mean, I'm not sure how who it surprises.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_02]: And they're so, we were robbed.
- 1:56[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many, there's so many to look.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_02]: Look, okay, fine.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_02]: It did loft and catch a touchdown.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think so, but I'm not really sure.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really sure what rules are what rules in these leagues anymore.
- 2:11[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have any free NFL.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, were we maybe, but the reality is we were down 24 to three.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, correct.
- 2:22[SPEAKER_02]: You can't get mad.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_02]: at getting robbed, if we will.
- 2:28[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, maybe it was karma.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've had some things go our way to the past few weeks.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be quite honest with you, right?
- 2:35[SPEAKER_02]: So, so we can't get mad that we were robbed to tie it.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_02]: You're done 24 or three.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I understand it's a 60 minute game.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_02]: I get all of that, but you can't look the way you looked for a half of football.
- 2:50[SPEAKER_02]: And expect,
- 2:54[SPEAKER_02]: to come out on top with that.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's, it's, it's, and look, it's okay, right?
- 2:59[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Josh pray.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you guys saw his videos morning.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
- 3:05[SPEAKER_02]: He's thinking, Notre Dame up and down left, the right, and then he realizes, oh shit, I think you just screwed up.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_02]: Notre Dame, I think you screwed up, because now,
- 3:18[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you don't think Mario's intense before, I don't know if you saw him bitching about that, that call and that catch and called a bullshit and the whole thing left to right.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_02]: Like so, yeah, I mean, look, I predicted 31, 27, I just, it's one of those things where I didn't like any of it.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay, like it's totally okay.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_02]: It's a non-conference game.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's Notre Dame.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_02]: They'll go away, their fans, they go back to doing whatever they're doing.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna lose to SMU anyway.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_02]: And it is what it is.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm not even remotely, we're eight and one, not even remotely upset about the loss.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_02]: I'm upset about how we played in the first half because that sucks, right?
- 4:02[SPEAKER_02]: That's just sucks.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_02]: Like you never gave yourself a legitimate opportunity to win the game.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_02]: So it's fine.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: Roy, you have a row, Roy.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Roy, Roy.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my goodness.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_02]: That's a new rod.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_02]: All the old.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_02]: That's where you can show called Roy.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, bro, you've got a fan boy out there.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that?
- 4:26[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he saw he's so mad.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_02]: He's so mad at me.
- 4:32[SPEAKER_04]: How did he know, isn't me tweeted?
- 4:34[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, because I was, oh my god, oh my god.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_02]: He's so good.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_04]: The other thing that's for to it is the other thing.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_04]: So there's a lot of ranked teams at lost yesterday.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of carnage and then University of Miami's Hollis football bro.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_04]: It is what it is.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_04]: But that one week of carnage we had remind me of escaped that there was another week of carnage.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_04]: I believe seven seven or seven ranked teams.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, lost again.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_02]: Now great.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they were playing other ranked teams.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of matchups.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a lot of fun.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_02]: You see L.A. You talking.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_02]: You see L.A. That's only two unbeaten's.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the last.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_02]: That use.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_02]: Is that crazy?
- 5:13[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know for me.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_04]: There's there's things I want to go ahead and touch on for me.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_04]: It was like a sandwich when you're who do you need for a half?
- 5:20[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because it wasn't clean offensively.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_04]: It's like that team was trying to figure out what it was without Malik.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_04]: I told you in the second half that did.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_04]: So when you meet your who Danny for a half, which is in Shannon Dawson's DNA, he'll do that.
- 5:33[SPEAKER_04]: He'll disappear for half set of time, be dead.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_04]: And then you turn around and you have what we, the smoke alarm was going off for.
- 5:40[SPEAKER_04]: Those two met last night.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_04]: And when those two meant last night, that's why you're down 24 to three, right?
- 5:45[SPEAKER_04]: Those two things and ultimately we set it and toast and I agreed on the stream where like for the University of Miami, they can't the University of Miami to win this game.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_04]: They could not give up another point the rest of the game they did.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_04]: and when they did, it was curtains.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_04]: And it was a realistically, that wasn't a great expectation to put on your defense, especially the way they've played the last few weeks.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_04]: But you put yourself there when you gave up the first 24.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_04]: So there's a lot to unpack, but to me, it's not a good recipe when those two inevitable happened.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_04]: Who'd any for a half and that passed their defense?
- 6:21[SPEAKER_02]: Can I, can I, can I, I am,
- 6:25[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I think happened, though, and I understand Sudanese for half an I understand that everyone's pissed off a Shannon Dawson, which I don't know, look.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to have the running game of factor in the first half.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_02]: What you have to do, like Notre Dame has not defended the run very well in between the guards, right?
- 6:43[SPEAKER_02]: They're just, they're not great.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_02]: They're now granted.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_02]: They did get a couple of dudes back, right?
- 6:48[SPEAKER_02]: So he tried to establish the run and it be a balanced offense in the first half.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't work very well.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_02]: The second half, he abandoned the run entirely and it worked really well.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_02]: So it's one of those things where, I mean, you have to, I don't think he's gonna come out and just not run the ball in the first half, right?
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, that's how I kind of saw it.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_02]: They played a lot better, not trying to run the football.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_02]: Is what happened.
- 7:18[SPEAKER_05]: So listen, it got the offense was absolutely awful in the first half.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_05]: I'd be curious, I mean, is that was that, was the offense that bad in the first half?
- 7:30[SPEAKER_05]: run the offense without number one of the field.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_05]: Was that an aspect of it or was it because you were just going to be stubborn, you hadn't tried to run the ball.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever it is, the other side of it is, is regardless of what happened, this defense gave up over 30 again.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_05]: This defense was unable to get off the field when it mattered.
- 7:47[SPEAKER_05]: Third and 11, third and 11 for the game on the line.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_05]: And you give up a swing route to the running back for 40 yards.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_05]: That's fourth and two.
- 7:56[SPEAKER_05]: What?
- 7:57[SPEAKER_05]: That was the third and 11.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_05]: fourth and fourth down fourth down the right on the left of the third level broke the friggin back that was the that was really fourth and fourth and two or three swing like again again again you can't get off the field yeah so I'm sorry that I pissed off folks with that ran last week including my wife but the reality still stands this isn't a defense that goes this is a defense that gets knocked out of the playoffs in the first game
- 8:25[SPEAKER_02]: You find it funny and I know you're listening by the way.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're listening because you can't because you can't get us out of your ears Is that truth right you follow us like a little stalker so when you get pissed off
- 8:40[SPEAKER_02]: that toast calls something out.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if you're eight, no, number one in the country.
- 8:44[SPEAKER_02]: Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, all your little bullshit that you like to throw out there.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: The reality stands, the reality stands.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_02]: And you can be as pissed off as you like, and as bent at a shape as you like, but you're just pissed.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_02]: because toast said the truth, the reality is you're not pissed off five years ago when we put this entire thing in motion and you got your boy here Mario and he is our boy and he's the man to put this together and he's going to continue to push but you sir cannot get pissed off because five years ago you loved us what we were a part of getting this put together.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_02]: You loved the fact that we did this for you and now you want to bitch because toast is being honest with you
- 9:29[SPEAKER_02]: You're petty, petty, petty little man, my man, and it rhymes with that.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, I mean, listen, it was brutal the way I, what I, here's what I will say that I took away from last night, and we've run, I talked about it, and it's something that has happened since Mario got here.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the reality, at least where the last 18 month scoop that I know, regardless of what happens, regardless of fallen behind 24 to three.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_05]: I know the team on the field is not going to quit and they're going to battle for the full 60 that's just that is now in the DNA that Maru has put it in that and you saw that last night this team could have folded up could have just had bro this is not our night we're getting free in dog walked here we row and I were ready for us to be talking about Star Wars in the third quarter because we're going to be down by 35 we had the secondary you know topics all like the pregnant talk about.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_05]: and they battled back then and they made it a game and what do you know you had the ball with a minute left and you had a shot like you're just like last year against Indiana like somehow you were still there and you had the ball last and you had a shot.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_05]: So for that like yeah we're always going to be in the game like no one's going to just freaking blow our ass out because Mark is not going to let that happen.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_05]: But
- 10:40[SPEAKER_02]: Just the the first half having to sit through that and watch that was just like you know an incredible set of torturous credible set and it and it and it continued last night which is which we didn't think was going to happen.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_02]: 42 games now the last 42 games the university has not lost a football game by more than seven points.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we talked about that.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about this.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_04]: That's to your point, right?
- 11:07[SPEAKER_02]: Because this culture, like they will not lay over, right?
- 11:12[SPEAKER_02]: Like they used to.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_02]: So that game was about to eclipse.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_04]: That was great.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_04]: 41 games.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_04]: That game was about to eclipse.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_04]: The way was half.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_04]: And those 41 games prior, it was going to equal the total that Notre Dame just was about to do.
- 11:26[SPEAKER_04]: But the universe and Miami continued to be covered.
- 11:29[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_02]: We did.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_04]: I covered.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_04]: Look, there's a couple.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get like hyperspecific here, too.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you had that one in the first half.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_04]: You're on the goal line.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_04]: You're bailed out by a couple.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't say bailed out, but they were legitimate legit calls by Notre Dame.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_04]: very grabby secondary, by the way, they were that way last year.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_04]: That's how they operate.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_02]: We still didn't get in though.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I just let's talk about that because that's, and that's Mario's DNA bro.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_05]: We had like, and I lost my mind.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_05]: He's the extended that down there.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_05]: We had like 10 players from like the five we couldn't get it in.
- 12:07[SPEAKER_04]: And I lost my mind.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_04]: And that was the one time where I really lost my mind watching that and I watched it over a player.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_04]: And you're going to be that's not fair because he's a freshman.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_04]: You're not a freshman anymore.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_04]: It is so annoying at this point.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_04]: You literally turn around and look at like, oh my goodness, I just got beat.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_04]: You look like, like, you can't do that, my guy.
- 12:30[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot do that and you're not a freshman anymore.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_04]: like on the offensive line, that's a guy that needs to be caught out like every week they're throwing stuff at you.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_04]: They're targeting you.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_04]: So get up and play for the you and block somebody that doesn't have a you helmet and will be okay.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_04]: I was show.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_04]: I was like bro, always a freshman.
- 12:51[SPEAKER_04]: He's a freshman.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of that last night.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're going to go back and you're going to go back and watch it.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's just one of those things.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_02]: It is what it is.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_04]: So on offense, that's
- 13:15[SPEAKER_04]: whatever, you're not a freshman, you're probably making money too.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_04]: So it's, you can get a little bit of criticism, but you need to grow up.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we're going to have another run at the playoffs.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_04]: The whole offensive line needs to do it, but the guy that's like constantly getting picked on every single week
- 13:35[SPEAKER_04]: It happens week after week, and that's on the offensive line, right?
- 13:38[SPEAKER_04]: Because deep Notre Dame had the advantage on both Notre Dame's had 22 pressures.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_04]: They had the better defensive line.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_04]: They had to better Mr. Wilson.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_04]: My goodness, dude, you are like, if you came from Walmart, I take you back, no questions asked.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even put you back in a box.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_04]: I'm literally giving it back and be like, it's broken.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_04]: It's just broken.
- 14:02[SPEAKER_04]: It's just not.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_05]: Now you're not even putting them in a good wheel box, like it's not, yeah, I'm not even know, just take it back.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_04]: They give you your money back like Willie Nilly.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_04]: They don't even care.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, when you got shook out of your shoes, you just look like you had cement hips and cement feet.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, oh my goodness, last year, and you don't want to go back to last year, but like, you know, last year, keep messing or cleans that up, moving big.
- 14:24[SPEAKER_04]: But you don't have two first round guys.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I remember email coming on, singing your praises, oh, that's a top 15 pick.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_04]: you're not.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, baby, day three like it's it's it's just it's just not clicking I guess because you were in the SEC which goes to show you again.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_02]: I mean that that leads to offensive line just aren't very good.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_02]: You get to see and and it's a completely different.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they paid us in the line.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_04]: They'd be a fine.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_02]: Could this game, and this is, this is not picking on anyone.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just talking about, and I'm generalizing here.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_02]: Could this game have been flipped on its head, the very first play?
- 15:06[SPEAKER_02]: So easily.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_02]: You guys not following me here?
- 15:10[SPEAKER_04]: I forget with the first half of it.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_04]: How is that?
- 15:12[SPEAKER_02]: How is that not a pick six?
- 15:17[SPEAKER_02]: You guys don't, you gotta know I do what I'm talking about?
- 15:19[SPEAKER_05]: No, I do.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, very first play the game car steps back frozen out route.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_02]: Go watch it.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's it's as easy of a pick six as you can get in college football.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand what he's been there.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_04]: So then they have their DBs are better than our DBs for sure.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_04]: There are much better coverage guys.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_04]: Look at what they were able to do to Darren Mesa, who is Mr. Automatic on the year.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_04]: And he's still had a respectable game.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_04]: Good game.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_04]: Still had three touchdowns when they were sectioned.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_04]: But he throws that out rep and it's picked up.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like he almost threw a couple out routes that were in our way.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I believe that guy, but you know he is much better to walk, but I will tell you they were they were waiting for it I mean, that's it.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_04]: That's a play where it's like it's scouted.
- 16:06[SPEAKER_04]: They smile.
- 16:06[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, yeah, we knew we were going to be able to get one of those outrounds.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_04]: We knew it was coming
- 16:11[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we got it at the right time.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_04]: So that was, that's where film that effort meant athleticism and it just worked.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_04]: But you had to have the film review to be like, hey, look, we have a feeling that they're going to do an outrout at a certain point.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_04]: We can get it from Darren Mensa, which is the one thing when we talk last night's group about it.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_04]: Me and Tosa is like, he's not a Howard's her guy.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_04]: He, like, if can't work, that's not a pick because can't work.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to get that ball on you a lot quicker, right?
- 16:35[SPEAKER_04]: It's just one of those things.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_04]: That's not, that's not a throw that,
- 16:38[SPEAKER_04]: When you can say make all the throws, he can make all the throws you need accurately, it just, he cannot make that throw with enough vilo at times.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_05]: One of the, uh, one of the things that definitely stood out to me and you talked about the secondary was watching each secondary.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_05]: like pro life.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Leonard Moore's that are guy.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_05]: Number 12, Jaden Sanders was all over the place.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_05]: Like they have cornerbacks.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_05]: They're bigger cornerbacks.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_05]: They're physical and they're able to stick to you like blue.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_05]: And when you see our cornerbacks, they're just not that.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, I know we got studs coming in next year, thank God.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_05]: But our guys don't cover like they're guys, too.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_05]: They just don't in the second year.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure what it is, talent, whatever it is.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_05]: But that was, that was a just notice will be different for me.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't, yeah, and look, I don't think you have, and, and, um, you know, Antoine's been a hurt the entire year, and you got to know Jay out the end.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_02]: So you're top two cover corners.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_02]: right, which are you're there at the top two cover guys.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that that position has, as you said, has those types of horses, right?
- 17:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's not as though like next year and you don't want to rely on on to freshman obviously, but next year you've got the number one corner back in the country coming out of California and you've got a mere seers who might be the best athlete in the country coming in who probably is going to play corner.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have, if you look back at the pedigree of the guys that you've drafted that position, right?
- 18:09[SPEAKER_02]: Those horses aren't there, right?
- 18:11[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have letter more.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you don't have no Sanders guy, right?
- 18:17[SPEAKER_02]: Lucas is good to Murray, unfortunately, plays hurt his entire career.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I last night, big, big last night, usually I'd say that much.
- 18:27[SPEAKER_02]: And then, and then, and Tuan's not in, came to Portis isn't ready.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_02]: So, and 24, I mean, he's, he's not that pedigree, right?
- 18:38[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have that pedigree at that position.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_02]: So you're right.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's an obvious discrepancy between one team and the other, right?
- 18:47[SPEAKER_02]: And to help our corners, and it was a key to the game two weeks ago, and it was a key to the game for me for this week.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_02]: we are unable to create any pressure with the front four.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_02]: None unable.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_02]: None.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have it against North Carolina.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_02]: They were completely negated in the past game.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_02]: Last night, that front four was completely negated in the past game.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_05]: The trenches we got our asses kicked last night, both sides.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: So when you when you're unable to put any pressure on the quarterback, I'm not sure how many pressures actual pressures we had on on.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember him getting knocked down.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_04]: It's here, it's on the right.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_02]: It's on the right hand, right?
- 19:32[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone with any talent is going to pick you apart.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it against North Carolina.
- 19:40[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it against, look, FSU did it to an extent too, to be quite honest with you, right?
- 19:44[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's not a recipe for success.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_02]: So were we great against, were we great against the, the run game last night again?
- 19:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really good.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_02]: Really good.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_02]: Because you didn't have to run it.
- 19:56[SPEAKER_02]: The interior of our, look, if they just refute and I tweeted this out last night, if they refused to run the football, they'd put up 50.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_02]: That's the truth.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying that in a bad way.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that that's, you have a recipe for disaster with no pressure.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_02]: And the only way you get pressure is bringing the safety down.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: That's literally, and then you have one last guy in coverage, and you can't cover it anyway because you can't get pressure.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not when Heather was hired, Ro told you, he puts a lot of pressure on his secondary to cover.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_02]: He does.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a really big, all of it is adding up in a way that we're having a tough time being successful.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_02]: Because our defense looks, our secondary looks much, much better.
- 20:47[SPEAKER_02]: If the front four has any opportunity to get pressure on the pass play, right?
- 20:54[SPEAKER_02]: Very good against the run.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_02]: Very, very, very poor against the pass.
- 21:02[SPEAKER_04]: The issue is though, and I'm gonna try to focus on this.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like the other opposing teams quarterback is holding the ball that long though.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_04]: They don't, and that can be the excuse.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_02]: That can be the excuse.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_02]: He holds it long enough for us to have it.
- 21:14[SPEAKER_02]: And we can't get off the ball.
- 21:16[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree.
- 21:18[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable how bad we are.
- 21:20[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_04]: I talked about it last night.
- 21:22[SPEAKER_04]: We can match at a block.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_04]: I, and so there is a strategy in a technique, especially, and I feel like if you're going to be successful against Miami in the past game, you do it early, down, right?
- 21:33[SPEAKER_04]: You do it on early, down, it's first and second, down, because there is a strategy boys, I'm just letting you know what happens.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_04]: So if we're trying to condense the, hear me out, if we're trying to play the run, right?
- 21:43[SPEAKER_02]: Let's listen to real, because he's the only one in the show that understands football.
- 21:48[SPEAKER_04]: There is a strategy on earlier downs and you'll see the University of Miami where they'll come out and either condense on like a gap hole or they're going to come right to your chest right they're going to come right to your chest first right that when you play the run you take like two quicker steps when you're trying to play the pass you play you play take this explosive step right you're take this really explosive steps and when you're taking two steps and you're told to play the chest because you're going to play either side that's called two gaping right and you take those two
- 22:18[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
- 22:18[SPEAKER_04]: So now you have two options.
- 22:21[SPEAKER_04]: One of the things is if you get on that block, they're just going to tell you, hey, you're on that angle just bull rush him into the back and collapse the pocket, which sometimes you see them doing it looks awkward because they can't get off the block.
- 22:31[SPEAKER_04]: So it's almost like this thing scoop toast where it's like we have the number one rush defense, right?
- 22:37[SPEAKER_04]: But the number one rush defense in the cost to keep the number one rush defense is almost neutering us so much getting after the quarterback at times, right?
- 22:47[SPEAKER_04]: Because of how we have to play run rules, it's not that simple.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_04]: Like, just get after the quarterback every play.
- 22:51[SPEAKER_04]: You fly up field.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_04]: You leave gaping holes in the running game.
- 22:55[SPEAKER_04]: Like you, you want to get gas in the run games.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_04]: You have your defense events running up field.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_04]: All game.
- 22:59[SPEAKER_04]: It's just that science.
- 23:01[SPEAKER_04]: So it's almost at this point, too, the teams have figured out like you said scoop and it's just all work at hand and hand first and second down.
- 23:07[SPEAKER_04]: Let's just pick them apart.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they have a decent pass rush, but you're never going to see it.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_04]: We won't allow them because they're too busy trying to stop the run.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll just take advantage of it.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_04]: Take advantage of it.
- 23:16[SPEAKER_04]: Take advantage of it.
- 23:17[SPEAKER_04]: Take advantage of it.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_04]: Take advantage of it.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_04]: Take advantage of it.
- 23:19[SPEAKER_04]: You see a lot of these passes that put you an advantage of spots.
- 23:21[SPEAKER_04]: How many times toast toast?
- 23:23[SPEAKER_04]: He was so ahead of me last night like by a play and a half.
- 23:26[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, coach numbs, and it's like, it's second and one, second and two, it's second and three, second and one.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they got to know every set and gets North Carolina, it's second one because they just keep passing on us on first down.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it's something that they're gonna have to reevaluate, but you knew a loss was common.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_04]: If you watched this long enough, Tows to try to tell you, we all tried to tell you smoke alarms, but you saw the loss coming.
- 23:49[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'm the offensive side.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_05]: So we got three games left.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_05]: You got all homes.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_05]: So you're done with the road games.
- 23:55[SPEAKER_05]: I see ACC games.
- 23:56[SPEAKER_05]: So my question.
- 23:57[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, you're not going to have number one until the AC title game is what they're saying.
- 24:01[SPEAKER_05]: But last night on the positive side, loft in a bar cake and buy in for 17 catches 200 yards.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_05]: Three touchdowns can those two guys carry this offense till the end of the year to the AC title game until you get Malay back.
- 24:15[SPEAKER_05]: Like can you keep hitting?
- 24:17[SPEAKER_05]: That the nut can you keep the number one offense in the country going with those two guys and not not Malik because I think you can of course Yes, and no yes and no.
- 24:25[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
- 24:26[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but you have to have a running game.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_04]: I think Malik I Tony gives you the opportunity With those other two guys to still win without a running game.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you can win without a running game with those
- 24:37[SPEAKER_05]: Now let me also ask you this, Scoop, we were talking about last night, going into this.
- 24:41[SPEAKER_05]: I just assumed because when we had seen him this year, he was looking pretty good.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_05]: I thought we'd see some spafford because with no number one didn't get a catch.
- 24:49[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't see him on the field.
- 24:51[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I didn't see me there.
- 24:52[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason why I believe is they moved upshot inside, right?
- 24:55[SPEAKER_02]: So they moved upshot into the slot to take, take Malice spot.
- 25:00[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that was their gameplay.
- 25:01[SPEAKER_05]: You had a nice drop.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_02]: He's not Mallory.
- 25:08[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, they moved, yeah, and I grew with you.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_02]: I thought we'd see, I thought we'd see Spaffer 2, but I think that, you know, what happened was, they had time, you know, when you see Spaffer, it's to spell Mallory, right, in games, you know, on the fly, right, game type situations.
- 25:25[SPEAKER_02]: I think they had the ability to move, knowing what was going on.
- 25:28[SPEAKER_02]: Because they game played with Spaffer 2, inside.
- 25:31[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's a very good slot or silver.
- 25:36[SPEAKER_02]: We said too many slack guys, I mean, not really because now you're able to to move so I didn't replace Malay.
- 25:42[SPEAKER_02]: So I go back to your question.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I agree with road to an extent, but I think what last night showed you is this offense may be better suited.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_02]: not without a running game, but they can play without a running game, right?
- 26:02[SPEAKER_02]: You saw in the second half yesterday.
- 26:04[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many times you ran in the second half.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't looked at the stats.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_02]: Not many.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_02]: And we were out doing four or three.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_02]: We were Hoover effective, right?
- 26:13[SPEAKER_02]: You're Hoover effective in that particular situation.
- 26:15[SPEAKER_02]: And they were still playing press man.
- 26:16[SPEAKER_02]: And they were still doing their things.
- 26:18[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they had a couple.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: They had a couple drives where they dropped in his own.
- 26:21[SPEAKER_02]: Those a little bit out of character for what they were doing the rest of the game.
- 26:26[SPEAKER_02]: But we were very successful with men's of being able to just sling it, if you will.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_02]: Look, you got to see Barcate as the number one guy, right?
- 26:36[SPEAKER_02]: Without Mali, Barcate becomes Barcate that we know was coming in from Duke with Mensa.
- 26:42[SPEAKER_02]: They have a chemistry.
- 26:44[SPEAKER_02]: They were superb together last night.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_02]: And you got to see a healthy loft in really get after it.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 26:52[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he is he's a Swiss army knife that that has, you know, certainly creates mismatches.
- 26:57[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and he was he was spectacular last night as well.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to be able to run the ball better against the next three opponents, then you were able to run it last night.
- 27:11[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 27:11[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a fact.
- 27:12[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_02]: The next three opponents are not going to be as good defensively on that defensive front as Notre Dame was like those boys working.
- 27:20[SPEAKER_04]: nasty.
- 27:21[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that one stack of all every steam that they had like five people in the backfield They all won their reps.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen that for a group of card tray.
- 27:29[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he was just in just Bear with all my disgusting.
- 27:32[SPEAKER_05]: So so I promise you the next three.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean You're not gonna see that right so so to Rose, but there's two parts to that.
- 27:42[SPEAKER_02]: I think yes
- 27:44[SPEAKER_02]: You need the running game, but you're going to be able to have the running game.
- 27:47[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're in a position where the running game is not going to be an issue because in reality, I don't think any of these teams over the next three weeks are going to say, oh, let's stop the run and force Miami to throw the football.
- 27:59[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're, I don't think you're going to see that.
- 28:01[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a probably a poor game plan.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to have a run game.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to look at stuff that real quick as you were saying.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think any of the teams just FYI.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tell me.
- 28:12[SPEAKER_04]: Miami has the number one rushing defense in the country.
- 28:14[SPEAKER_04]: They only do.
- 28:15[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because Duke is what?
- 28:16[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me what you got.
- 28:18[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Duke, Notre Dame is nine.
- 28:19[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, Duke is 12.
- 28:21[SPEAKER_04]: So they're not too far off stopping a run.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
- 28:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 28:24[SPEAKER_02]: But what's their past defense?
- 28:29[SPEAKER_02]: Like, let's be honest, I think Duke might be there this year, and they were last year.
- 28:33[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's about a hundred on the ground.
- 28:36[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's funny to be number 12 in the country.
- 28:38[SPEAKER_04]: You would think it'd be higher, but they're about 95 on the ground.
- 28:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and look, dude, it's got a fantastic running game.
- 28:46[SPEAKER_02]: That plays to our advantage.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that sounds, I don't think that any of the next three games are worrisome.
- 28:51[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, especially now.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_02]: These boys are going to be, I mean, Mario's going to, Mario seemed to, a little hot last night.
- 28:57[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any of these boys, but Annie's going to say,
- 29:01[SPEAKER_02]: I believe being told you is what he basically is that you cannot leave it up to officials and he's at especially here.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
- 29:10[SPEAKER_04]: Simple real quick.
- 29:11[SPEAKER_04]: There was like a revelation.
- 29:13[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds like a simple revelation, but yeah, I never correlated the two.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_04]: in the playoffs right in the place we've always said it you want to have a fair weathered you know run game right because we saw how it was able to operate last year especially in hostile environments you know what the equivalency is and this is what Notre Dame was able to do on one of the sides of the ball playing man coverage
- 29:37[SPEAKER_04]: When it's all going to hell in a hand basket, if you got guys that can literally just cover the man in front of them at a high clip, because that's what Notre Dame was able to do, you're gonna be able to win some ball games.
- 29:49[SPEAKER_04]: So when you can run the football and cover in man coverage,
- 29:53[SPEAKER_04]: And right now, University of Miami, just not doing it at a highly clip.
- 29:58[SPEAKER_04]: So I've always said it was one, right?
- 30:00[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta have this all the way to run game.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know what?
- 30:02[SPEAKER_04]: When it's complicated and it's crazy and you're reeling, lock them up, boys, lock them up.
- 30:08[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just gonna tell you, lock them up.
- 30:09[SPEAKER_04]: That's what Notre Dame did.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_04]: And I had to horses to lock us up.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately, we don't have the horses to lock you up.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have that pedigree at that position.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_02]: We said it.
- 30:19[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it was off the back.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_04]: So scoop, I heard you say that, and it just was like, click, I was like, yeah, we don't have the pedigree, but it's like, that's your equivalency.
- 30:28[SPEAKER_04]: That's when you're on the road against Notre Dame, you know what it would lock it up.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_04]: If you would have just covered the running back out of the backfield, and you would have just locked them up in man coverage, and you weren't confused about, so if you just, hey, look, when it matters, we're gonna agap for life this rudimentary.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, when it matters on defense, just lock that guy up.
- 30:45[SPEAKER_02]: And we can't, we can't, it's a, you know, they had, they had a plan, we had that swing route planned the entire week.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_04]: So North Carolina did it against this, too.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what was successful in a third and nine.
- 30:56[SPEAKER_04]: So it's, it's, it's swing routes from the back field and screens.
- 30:59[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, all right.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean,
- 31:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I look our linebackers just sucked inside.
- 31:04[SPEAKER_02]: And that's another reason why we're so good at stopping the run.
- 31:06[SPEAKER_02]: Right, there's bumpers, man.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_02]: But in coverage, they are a liability, right?
- 31:11[SPEAKER_02]: So in teams, teams know that, right?
- 31:13[SPEAKER_02]: So they're just slipping guys out, right?
- 31:16[SPEAKER_02]: They ran a drag and a swing route.
- 31:19[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's about as rudimentary as you can get offensively.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_02]: And no one was, unfortunately, our guys were still inside the numbers.
- 31:30[SPEAKER_02]: But hey, look, it's by no means that I expect to win the game.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was it sucks, but then it was fun.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_02]: And you you you you can't you can't leave it to the official.
- 31:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's right.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
- 31:46[SPEAKER_02]: So what do we have left?
- 31:47[SPEAKER_02]: We've got three conference games.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_02]: All three kinds of games, expect all at home, expected to be favored heavily in two or three of them.
- 31:59[SPEAKER_02]: And you've got to go and prove that we had a bad night.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: And we had a bad half.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_02]: And we got beat.
- 32:06[SPEAKER_02]: And there's still a lot more football ahead of them.
- 32:11[SPEAKER_05]: Where do you think they come out in the AP pole?
- 32:15[SPEAKER_02]: I think they replaced BYU at eight.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_05]: okay.
- 32:19[SPEAKER_05]: I can see that.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_05]: Notre Dame goes up to like seven.
- 32:22[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like that.
- 32:24[SPEAKER_02]: 11 to seven fall the eight.
- 32:26[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, realistically, we're probably at 19, but I think we probably should be it.
- 32:30[SPEAKER_02]: We should be it.
- 32:31[SPEAKER_02]: We should be it.
- 32:32[SPEAKER_04]: That's second half is what kept you in it.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the second half for sure.
- 32:36[SPEAKER_02]: Just everybody been now on the country.
- 32:38[SPEAKER_02]: How that's a catch and it should have been.
- 32:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 32:41[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I mean, I mean, it's like, no, you have to keep the voters have your best not just player, like if I mean, there's like, you could say like, you know, they weren't their best.
- 32:49[SPEAKER_05]: They didn't have their best player.
- 32:50[SPEAKER_05]: That was a catch, it should have been a touchdown.
- 32:53[SPEAKER_05]: I'll be honest.
- 32:53[SPEAKER_05]: That's the biggest thing I want to get out of this.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_05]: I would love for just just someone to explain.
- 32:59[SPEAKER_05]: official like why that like if he took two steps out of bounds and then he got the ball swept out with us till also not be like at what point does does that play in?
- 33:08[SPEAKER_05]: I'm so confused, like both rules were in.
- 33:10[SPEAKER_05]: He had the ball.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_05]: He then steps out of bounds.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_05]: Still has the ball.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_05]: Then it smacked out of his hand.
- 33:15[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't understand how I. I didn't go to the ground.
- 33:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 33:19[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't understand the rule.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't go to graduate.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_02]: So he didn't have to go to the ground.
- 33:23[SPEAKER_02]: But I might my biggest confusion on it.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I don't know.
- 33:27[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it wasn't a catch.
- 33:29[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe it looks like a touchdown.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if I have two eyes, it looks like a touchdown.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't understand how a defender can continue to defend a catch while out of bounds, right?
- 33:45[SPEAKER_02]: You can do a trend to catch in-bounds.
- 33:48[SPEAKER_02]: But as a player steps out with possession, I don't understand how
- 33:53[SPEAKER_02]: it makes sense for it legally to then still be able to be defended, right?
- 33:58[SPEAKER_02]: Is it the play over?
- 33:59[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 34:00[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 34:01[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 34:02[SPEAKER_04]: I think they made it a point to say they were ACC if they NBC, these are ACC officials.
- 34:09[SPEAKER_04]: They should be.
- 34:09[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what other officials would they be?
- 34:11[SPEAKER_04]: Because Notre Dame by the facto, like, they don't have independent rest, right?
- 34:14[SPEAKER_04]: So they had pretty much enough arguments.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_04]: So that's, I just...
- 34:17[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so confused by football rules in general so like I was like he didn't in my initial reaction was like he didn't maintain possession and then you start thinking about it Well, yeah, he's standing up and then you're right scoop and then I saw a plane in a fell.
- 34:32[SPEAKER_04]: It was identical.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I saw it's it's already surfaced And it was like no, it's a touchdown.
- 34:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the ball was I punched out that ball was punched out even before he got out of bounds.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_02]: So we just kind of crazy right
- 34:47[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, that's as if the officials were just awful.
- 34:50[SPEAKER_05]: So I was just like, then I would like the AC to have an explanation for that come out with the G. That's make a mistake.
- 34:54[SPEAKER_02]: What was it like, I know was I know it's been appealed, right?
- 35:00[SPEAKER_02]: Because you have to officially appeal it and then you get it, then you get an answer.
- 35:04[SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll come out and say, yeah, it was.
- 35:06[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was probably a touchdown.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_02]: You asked about the AP, none of those voters even have been watched the end of that game.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_02]: No, there was a lot of those side of the offense.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't four to three.
- 35:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's legitimate that they come in at 15.
- 35:21[SPEAKER_02]: Like they might be there because everyone thinks that they lost by three touchdowns.
- 35:26[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm more interested in is the playoff committee and where they have them slotted on Tuesday,
- 35:34[SPEAKER_02]: those guys, they saw it, they understand the situation, they wanted to see, they put Notre Dame on a pedestal last night, and they wanted to see how they would react, right?
- 35:46[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they put it in 11, because they don't want them, I mean, you know, the whole, we're in the top 12, doesn't matter how many of us we have.
- 35:54[SPEAKER_02]: So they watched it.
- 35:55[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm more interested to see where they have them, because I think seven and eight is fair for for that scenario.
- 36:05[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think the AP's going to they don't pay attention.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the show.
- 36:13[SPEAKER_05]: You guys have the dolphins all, you know, they get everybody happy today.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_05]: So enjoy that one for you.
- 36:18[SPEAKER_05]: I guess the lines have dried the wife down there.
- 36:21[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so we'll be back on, we'll do another one on Wednesday.
- 36:24[SPEAKER_05]: Get ready for... Are you going to the dolphins game?
- 36:26[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, she is.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_05]: She's going to a with her girlfriend.
- 36:28[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was curious.
- 36:30[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, you know, you know, go to Caine's games.
- 36:32[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought, if you went to a dolphin game, you wouldn't be so lame toast.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 36:37[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know.
- 36:38[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead and blame.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead and blame.
- 36:43[SPEAKER_02]: That was like I don't know that one that would copy off guard.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_02]: I was like Is this is this clown series?
- 36:52[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, anyway, I had fun with it.
- 36:54[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we all did.
- 36:56[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, so we'll do we got three games left in this wrong ACC Champion listen everything is still in front of them.
- 37:01[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you just got you Mario's got a he's got a light he's got a kicks and I asked this week There's got to be some some well.
- 37:07[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 37:08[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
- 37:08[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I do
- 37:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
- 37:12[SPEAKER_02]: No, here's why.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, I'm starting to think it's necessary.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_03]: This goes to you, though.
- 37:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, understand that and and find beyond the coach.
- 37:20[SPEAKER_02]: If this team, these guys on the players on this team aren't kicking each other's ass for that last night and it's all coming from Mario, that's not good.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_05]: No, but we've heard that remember that they went all over the Mones.
- 37:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 38:00[SPEAKER_02]: We all, what do we always say?
- 38:02[SPEAKER_02]: Alas isn't always bad.
- 38:03[SPEAKER_02]: Especially in today's world, right?
- 38:06[SPEAKER_02]: Not only five years ago or cooked.
- 38:09[SPEAKER_02]: But in today's world, Alas isn't bad, man.
- 38:12[SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel like somebody stole something from you?
- 38:16[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, it creates a different mentality sometimes.
- 38:21[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see.
- 38:22[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I feel I feel like it's a it's not a moral victory, but I feel like some of the people say, oh, it's okay, because we got everything in front of us look we could be Ohio State.
- 38:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right, who is an abomination.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_04]: got their bad.
- 38:36[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're really bad.
- 38:37[SPEAKER_04]: Really bad.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_05]: Really bad.
- 38:39[SPEAKER_04]: They are really bad.
- 38:40[SPEAKER_04]: Beacon back in their contention.
- 38:42[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that is.
- 38:44[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 38:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 38:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 38:45[SPEAKER_02]: Oregon there Texas, you know, tied with Missouri late, not great.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, the only two undefeated teams in the country are Utah and UCLA.
- 38:56[SPEAKER_02]: Let's.
- 38:59[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy to me.
- 39:00[SPEAKER_05]: They should be number one and number two.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_05]: I hope they all.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_05]: You talk should be number one.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 39:05[SPEAKER_02]: George.
- 39:05[SPEAKER_02]: George.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_02]: George will be.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_02]: George will be.
- 39:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: 100%.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 39:09[SPEAKER_02]: They look good.
- 39:10[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
- 39:10[SPEAKER_02]: They look.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_02]: They beat this.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_02]: Not at all.
- 39:12[SPEAKER_02]: That's my God.
- 39:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 39:13[SPEAKER_02]: They did.
- 39:15[SPEAKER_02]: And we could be all missed.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_02]: They were down 28 nothing at half.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know.
- 39:20[SPEAKER_02]: We were close.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_04]: We will.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you guys later this week.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_04]: Have a good one as always.
- 39:24[SPEAKER_04]: Go Kings.
- 39:24[SPEAKER_04]: Bang.
- 39:25[SPEAKER_04]: That's another episode in the books.
- 39:26[SPEAKER_04]: What are you waiting for?
- 39:27[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody to kiss you goodbye.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, I guess not.
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