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Member for Solomon Luke Gosling says the Territory Rights Bill is being debated in the Senate and he hopes it’ll pass before the end of the year · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Oh, we know that the Northern Territory Police said they'd
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  Speaker 1: last night surge forty additional officers into Alice Springs to
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  Speaker 1: support local police to address the crime and antisocial behavior
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  Speaker 1: issue in the town. The move followed the latest incident
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, which saw two stolen cars driving dangerously
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  Speaker 1: around the CBD. The Police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker came out
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  Speaker 1: to make this announcement yesterday and confirm that one of
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  Speaker 1: those stolen cars attempted to ram a police vehicle which
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  Speaker 1: was forced to take evasive action to avoid a collision.
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  Speaker 1: As we all know, this is the third incident of
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  Speaker 1: this type involving stolen vehicles in Alice Springs in the
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  Speaker 1: past fortnight. Now joining me on the line is the
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  Speaker 1: Independent Member Farra Lun Robin Lamley.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Robin.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Katie Robin.
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  Speaker 1: The move to bring forty additional police to Alice it
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  Speaker 1: does follow calls yesterday for the AFP to step in
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  Speaker 1: to assist from some people. Are these forty officers going
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  Speaker 1: to be enough to quell the issues being experienced at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, Well.
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  Speaker 3: Katie, I think what we're seeing on the streets of
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  Speaker 3: Alice Springs is a profound, if not complete, disintegration of
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  Speaker 3: law and order. So to put forty eight to forty
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  Speaker 3: five police extra police on the streets of Alice Springs
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  Speaker 3: for a few weeks is not going to make a
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  Speaker 3: massive difference. Might make a little bit of a difference.
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  Speaker 3: I was pleased to hear that the government has finally
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  Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that they have to do something more.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good signal. But you're talking about years
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  Speaker 3: of neglect by the government in terms of responding to
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  Speaker 3: the disintegration of law and order in Alice Springs. So
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  Speaker 3: this a reaction is not going to be enough to
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  Speaker 3: turn it around. And that's what people need. We need
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  Speaker 3: a long term plan.
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  Speaker 1: Katie Robin, do you think that what the government's announced
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  Speaker 1: so far in terms of the Social Order Response Team
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  Speaker 1: and you know, trying to find locations to get young
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  Speaker 1: peer people off the street and somewhere safe at night,
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  Speaker 1: amongst some other parental responsibility plans and that type of thing,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that that goes far enough?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it could, but don't forget, Katie, They've been talking
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  Speaker 3: about identifying children on the streets of Alice Springs at
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  Speaker 3: night as child protection cases for probably two months now,
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  Speaker 3: and we're still hearing that they're planning at that they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to work it out. If anyone else was in government,
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  Speaker 3: with a little bit more motivation and energy, you could
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  Speaker 3: introduce those sort of initiatives tonight. The legislation is there,
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  Speaker 3: it's a child protection initiative. Everything's in place to make
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  Speaker 3: that happen immediately. If they're looking for somewhere to put
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  Speaker 3: the kids, there are places now today that they could
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  Speaker 3: use temporarily. Still getting the run around, Katie. If it
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  Speaker 3: was happening in Darwin, you would get a totally different response.
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  Speaker 3: But down in Alice Springs, wah wah, wah. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: people listening here she goes again, but it is different
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  Speaker 3: how we are treated down there. We get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of talk and very little action. And now it's apparently
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  Speaker 3: up to the police to come in and try and
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  Speaker 3: fix this problem that has been festering and deteriorating for
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  Speaker 3: a very very long time. And it's probably very unfair
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  Speaker 3: on the police to have to do that. I know
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  Speaker 3: it's their job, but what are they meant to do Differently?
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  Speaker 4: There are no extra.
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  Speaker 3: Tools that the government's given them. There's no change in
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  Speaker 3: policy or direction. Just putting more police on the streets
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  Speaker 3: will help temporarily, because they're only going to be temporarily there.
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  Speaker 3: The extra police. It's not turning the ship around. And
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  Speaker 3: don't forget we're not even in summer yet. Summer's next week.
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  Speaker 3: Things tend to to tear even more as summer goes on.
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  Speaker 3: So you're talking about those very long hot months of January,
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  Speaker 3: February and even into March in Alice Springs in which
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  Speaker 3: it's been indicated that these extra police won't be around
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  Speaker 3: for So it's good to hear that the government's been
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  Speaker 3: forced into doing something, but we need a bigger and
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  Speaker 3: better plan.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, yesterday in Parliament you put a question to the
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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister which you'd received from a young mum in
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  Speaker 1: Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell me about that?
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  Speaker 3: So this young woman texted me. I don't know who
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  Speaker 3: she is. I'll find out when I go home, but
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  Speaker 3: she texted me saying that she has a five day
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  Speaker 3: old baby and she's anxious and worried that people will
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  Speaker 3: get killed in Alice Springs with the dangers driving and
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  Speaker 3: anti social behavior. So I read that the text message
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  Speaker 3: she sent to me directly to the Chief Minister ask
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  Speaker 3: her to respond, and she immediately went on to tell
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  Speaker 3: us how she's putting an extra forty police on the
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  Speaker 3: streets of Alice Springs from last night. You know, different reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Do you reckon that question? You know from a young
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  Speaker 2: mum to you.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that reflects how the community is feeling
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  Speaker 1: at the moment. You know that you've got somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: obviously at home with their baby and they are worried
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  Speaker 1: about their safety.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, Katie, and this young woman's not alone, but I
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  Speaker 3: thought she captured it really well. She's just probably you know,
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  Speaker 3: after having a baby, you're feeling extremely vulnerable anyway, life
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  Speaker 3: has changed and you've gone through a real raal manager experience.
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  Speaker 3: She is worried about her safety and the safety of
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  Speaker 3: the community and the safety of her baby. And I
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  Speaker 3: just thought I would have got a slightly different response
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  Speaker 3: from the Chief Minister to that question, but she rolled
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  Speaker 3: out the usual any crime is too much and we're
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  Speaker 3: putting more police on the ground. But what I really
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  Speaker 3: wanted to hear from the Chief Minister was what those
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  Speaker 3: police will be doing that's different to what we're seeing
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  Speaker 3: now and a bit more of a commitment to taking
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  Speaker 3: a crisis response to what has been a seriously escalating
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  Speaker 3: crisis in Central Australia for years.
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  Speaker 1: It's look, you know, I can't believe the way that
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  Speaker 1: you know, the way that some of these young people
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  Speaker 1: or people in Alice Springs are behaving at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw it in Catherine as well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it's so surprising to me, because
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  Speaker 1: I guess we've seen some of this behavior escalating over time.
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  Speaker 1: But to see a situation where you've got cars being
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  Speaker 1: driven through the streets, stolen vehicles at police cars, it
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  Speaker 1: is really shocking stuff. And I just hope that we
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  Speaker 1: don't get to the point where we are desensitized to
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  Speaker 1: just how shocking it is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we've got to that point yet in
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  Speaker 3: Alice Springs because it seems to get worse every day
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  Speaker 3: and every week. But can I just go back to
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  Speaker 3: the fact that a few months ago the Northern Territory
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  Speaker 3: Labor government turned on the grog to four hundred communities,
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  Speaker 3: outstations and tan camps across the Northern Territory. Now the
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  Speaker 3: police are saying that that has had a profound impact
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  Speaker 3: on the community. They are saying that they anecdotally are
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  Speaker 3: seeing an increase in alcohol consumption, a staggering increase in
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  Speaker 3: domestic violence, and in increasing kids on the street that
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  Speaker 3: are being abused and neglected. Now, this is what the
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  Speaker 3: Northern Territory government need to take ownership of. They have
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  Speaker 3: created an almighty social problem that is completely out of control.
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  Speaker 3: They are not taking responsibility for it. They have done
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  Speaker 3: things over the sixth years there've been in government that
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  Speaker 3: are almost irreversible. So for them to throw forty extra
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  Speaker 3: police on the streets of Vala Springs for two three
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  Speaker 3: four weeks at the most and think that that's the solution,
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  Speaker 3: they are completely deluded. Katie. We need we need help.
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  Speaker 3: We need outside help, whether it's from the army or
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  Speaker 3: the armed forces, or whether it's like how the government
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  Speaker 3: sought a budget repair paper from someone externally. We need
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  Speaker 3: a law and order repair strategy for the whole of
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  Speaker 3: the Northern Territory because I can assure you things are
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  Speaker 3: going to get worse. You increase the age of criminal
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  Speaker 3: responsibility and you can guarantee things are going to get worse.
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  Speaker 2: So Robin, you are calling on the Northern Territory government.
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  Speaker 1: You're calling for a law and Order Repair strategy for
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Look, I actually think that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get quite a bit of support from the community
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  Speaker 1: on this, not only in Alice Springs, but I reckon
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  Speaker 1: right across the board.
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  Speaker 2: People have had enough.
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  Speaker 3: Well if they can do it for the budget. They're
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  Speaker 3: in government for less than two years and they sought
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  Speaker 3: the assistance of Lango Land, a Western Australia former treasury
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  Speaker 3: executive who came in and did a paper giving them
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  Speaker 3: a roadmap of how to get out of the budgetary
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  Speaker 3: problems that they created for themselves within the first two
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  Speaker 3: years of being in government. They need to do the
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  Speaker 3: same for Laura and Order. We need a road map
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  Speaker 3: of how are we going to get out of this
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  Speaker 3: terrible position that they've put every single Territori and in
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  Speaker 3: and for people in Darwin who are listening this morning,
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  Speaker 3: you can be assured that it's coming your way. It's
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  Speaker 3: bad in Alice Springs, it's terrible in Alice Springs. It's
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  Speaker 3: getting worse up here, and I can guarantee you will
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  Speaker 3: get worse right across the Northern Territory because this government
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  Speaker 3: has no idea how to pull it into line. We
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  Speaker 3: need help.
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  Speaker 1: They need help, Robin, what kind of personal who do
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  Speaker 1: you think could conduct such a repair strategy.
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  Speaker 3: Look, there's places all around the world that have gone
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  Speaker 3: through dire times when it comes to law and order.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying we need to go as
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  Speaker 3: far as New York, but remember New York used to
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  Speaker 3: be a place where you couldn't even step out onto
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  Speaker 3: the street without having a gun pointed at you. They
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  Speaker 3: turned it around. There are people right across the globe
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  Speaker 3: that have the expertise and the experience to help us.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's peculiar to Australia that we have, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a sadly disadvantaged population, mainly Aboriginal people that seem to,
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  Speaker 3: despite all the best intentions, seem to get less and
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  Speaker 3: less in terms of a voice and recognition. And the
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  Speaker 3: fact that you know, the policies like turning on the
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  Speaker 3: grove throughout extensive parts of the territory that were dry
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  Speaker 3: for fifteen years, I mean, what the hell was that about.
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  Speaker 3: You know that things like that just lead to more
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  Speaker 3: and more misery and heartache, devastation and more generational disadvantage.
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  Speaker 3: Yet this government seems to think it's everyone else's fault. Barbears.
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  Speaker 3: They've been in government for more than six years. They've
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  Speaker 3: been in government, Labor's been in government for about seventeen
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  Speaker 3: out of the last twenty years, and yet they still
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  Speaker 3: point the finger at the Coorp and everyone else who's
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  Speaker 3: around the place. They need to step up and take
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  Speaker 3: ownership and work out a plan for how we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get out of this, because, as I said, I
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  Speaker 3: am very pessimistic about the future. I think things are
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  Speaker 3: going to get a whole lot worse before they get better.
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  Speaker 3: And under this government, I hear nothing that makes me
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  Speaker 3: feel any ounce of optimism or hope that they even
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  Speaker 3: understand just how severe the problem is in places like
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  Speaker 3: Alice Fren's.
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  Speaker 1: Robin Landley, we always appreciate your time. Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for joining us on the show this morning.
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  Speaker 2: My Pleasure Kating, Thank you. That is the Independent member
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  Speaker 2: for Aura Lund there.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to take a really short break and when
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  Speaker 1: we come back, well we are going to be speaking
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  Speaker 1: to the manager of the Berkley Homestead.
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  Speaker 2: But keen to hear from you this morning. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think of this call from Robin Lamley?
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  Speaker 1: The Independent member Farara lun just said that there needs
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  Speaker 1: to be a law and order.
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  Speaker 2: Repair strategy for the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 5: about on the streets at the top end as often.
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  Speaker 2: We're going shopping. You're paying, No, you're not. Gague Na Square.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you on Friday from three o'clock.
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  Speaker 6: Black Friday Sale at Caterina Square.
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  Speaker 5: Hello Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at mixed
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  Speaker 1: You well, as we know, a devastating fire which occurred
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  Speaker 1: earlier this week has caused significant damage to the iconic
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  Speaker 1: Barkley Homestead Roadhouse. And joining me on the line to
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  Speaker 1: tell us more about the situation is the manager Ryan Brennan.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Ryan, Good morning Ryan. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: what happened with this fire or what you know so far?
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  Speaker 14: All I know so far as that it was an
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  Speaker 14: electrical fire caused by a freezer model. Oh the weight
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  Speaker 14: assessors today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and mate, talk us through the damage and you
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  Speaker 1: know how far it spreads.
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  Speaker 14: There's a lot of damage indication itself where it started
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  Speaker 14: and its spread up into the into the roof a
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  Speaker 14: little bit. However, there is smoke damage all throughout.
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  Speaker 1: It must have been a terrible situation for you guys
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  Speaker 1: when you you know, when you'd realize that that.
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  Speaker 2: Fire had begun and trying to put it out and everything.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: But can you tell us how you know it?
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  Speaker 1: What's the process now in terms of working through just
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  Speaker 1: how extensive that damage isn't and reopening?
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  Speaker 14: Well, yeah, so we've just got to wait for the
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  Speaker 14: affessors and they come today. Yeah, and then once they
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  Speaker 14: do their things, we'll we'll know whether or not we
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  Speaker 14: can start start working sil on cleaning it out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there had been some reports that, you know that
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  Speaker 1: the damage is so extensive that you may not be
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  Speaker 1: able to reopen, but is that actually the case?
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  Speaker 14: No, that's incorrect, And so talk.
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  Speaker 1: Us through the situation, Like once the assessors come through,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you'll have a better idea of where the
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  Speaker 1: damage is and what may be able to reopen and
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  Speaker 1: just how quickly.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah. So there will be electrical damage in the roof.
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  Speaker 14: So once the assesses come through, it's been up to
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  Speaker 14: a sparky to come out and a couple of trusses
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  Speaker 14: in the roof and to be replaced. We shouldn't be
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  Speaker 14: too long. The hardest part will be to clean up inside.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be all hands on deck, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 14: Yes it will, Yes, it will be.
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  Speaker 2: Mate.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me how the fuel bowsers, because I guess that's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the concern too for a lot of people.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: You know, they will.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Be traveling from from Mount Isa into the Northern Territory
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and their regular stop would be the Barkley Homestead to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: fill up, have a nice feed and get a bit
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of hospitality. How those fuel bowsers and what impact is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: that having?
• 18:56
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so because there's no power to the roadhouses, no
• 18:59
  Speaker 14: power to the bousers out the front. There are signs
• 19:04
  Speaker 14: came a wheel and three ways just advising people that
• 19:07
  Speaker 14: there's no shill. It is affecting people in a great way.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah, And it's tough though no fault of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: your own, Like, it's just one of those situations that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's so unfortunate and something you've got no control over.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And now you're obviously going to have to work through
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: reopening and being able to get things back up and running. Yeah, mate,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: tell me how challenging or do you anticipate that it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: going to be pretty challenging for those repairs because of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: where you located, more.
• 19:43
  Speaker 14: Challenging than others. Freight's the hardest part of the moment.
• 19:47
  Speaker 14: And then we've got a sparky out call and a
• 19:50
  Speaker 14: couple of builders on site so that aspect will be fine,
• 19:55
  Speaker 14: and the clean up with all the staff because currently
• 19:57
  Speaker 14: they can't work at normal jobs.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure that they're all hoping as well. Once
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: those successors get in that you can all get stuck
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: into it. For anybody not familiar with the area, how
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: far are the fuel stops either side?
• 20:14
  Speaker 14: Color Wheel is two hundred and sixty kilometers to the
• 20:17
  Speaker 14: east and then three Ways is one hundred and nine
• 20:19
  Speaker 14: eight kilometers. Were in a pretty vital spot, you.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Really are, and it's a great spot.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: People love the hospitality there at the Berkley Homestead, don't they?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Set? You guys? Apart from everybody else,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 20:41
  Speaker 14: Really know the answer to that question. I guess for
• 20:44
  Speaker 14: mister Barkley has said, you know, the first and last
• 20:46
  Speaker 14: club this side of the Queensland border.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It is such an iconic spot.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've traveled that road plenty of times,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: mostly with my brothers, traveling from Mount Isa to the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Well before I live to you and when
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I'd heard what had happened, I just I really felt for.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: You, guys.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I thought, what a difficult situation that you're in and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're such a pivotal location for so many people.
• 21:11
  Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, yeah, thank you for that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, is there anything else that you reckon? Travelers
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: need to be aware of. Just if there is anybody
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in Darwin right now that's planning on traveling back to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Queensland or vice versa and they're listening, anything you reckon
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: they need to be aware of.
• 21:26
  Speaker 14: Yeah, just light up on Field Gral a few jerry
• 21:29
  Speaker 14: cans and fill them up. The entire driveway into US
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: is locked offs as well, so there is, unfortunately for
• 21:36
  Speaker 14: the moment, no no access to that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we really appreciate you having a chat
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with us this morning. Ryan Brennan, the manager of the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Berkley Homestead, all the best keeping contact. Let us know
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: how you go in terms of that assessment and getting
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: things reopened, and we'll make sure our listeners are aware.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Will do.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, good on you, Ryan. Thanks mate.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: We'll take a very quick break. When we came. I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it feels like it's been a very long time
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that we've been discussing reinstating the territory rights when it
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: comes to voluntary assisted dying. But I understand that there
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: has certainly been some movement in the Federal Parliament today.
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  Speaker 1: And joining me on the line is Labor's Luke Gosling,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the Member for Solomon.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke, Morning Katie Luke.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: What is the situation this morning with the territory Rights bill.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: The debate has continued over in the Senate. Yeah, listeners
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  Speaker 4: will remember that we've got to pass through the House
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: of Representatives where I sit a while back, and the
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Senate debated that today. There was some funny voggas going
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: on with some of the senators from the opposition trying
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: to make some amendments, but I'm just trying to get
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: a read on those at the moment. Then Senator Price
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: was making some unassociated points having to go at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: NC government. But what we're all hoping is these things
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: aren't going to lay any further the vote, and it'll
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: be able to go ahead this time next week.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Right, So how likely is it that it's going to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: pass before the year's end. If it's happening next week,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming pretty likely.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll pretty much be the last opportunity, although they're
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: talking at the moment that we might be sitting Friday
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and even Saturday. Yeah, which is fine. We will stay
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: here and keep working until we get it passed. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I'm confident, Katie. There's some apart from some of the
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: amendments that some different senators are trying to put up
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: which seems like a bit of a delaying tactic to
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: try and to delay the vote. I think essentially the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: majority of Senators have come to see that this is
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: about democratic rights of territory ends and that it will
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: get the numbers we need thirty eight to support it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Obviously, despite what Senator just Enter Price from the COLP
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: has been saying in the debate today, despite that, I
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: hope that she supports the territory Rights Bill in the end.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Next So just talk us through if you can just
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: explain it to our listeners very simply. This morning exactly
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: what steps are still required to get this thing passed
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and to make it happen before the end of the year,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: so that then the Northern Territory Parliament obviously would have
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to go through any process to you know, for this
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to be able to happen in the Northern Territory.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and some people might be new to the territory
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and don't know the background. So very quickly twenty five
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: years ago the federal government at the time prevented. They
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: had what was called the Andrews Bill because it was
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: put forward by both by name of Kevin Andrews, who's
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: no longer in the parliament, but it stopped the Northern
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Territories Ustenasia Bill that had passed the NT Parliament, so
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: it overrode it, as the Commonwealth can do to territory law.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Obviously we don't want that, we want territories not being
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: second class citizens. But it has taken twenty five years
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: for us to get to a position where there was
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: a government prepared to support the Northern Territory and the
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: act to put the vote, and it has been a
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: conscience vote. They vote passed the House of Representatives and
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: passed the House well, but of course, for federal legislation
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: to be enacted, it has to pass both the House
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: of Representatives and then goes to the Senate, where there's
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: states representatives and territory representatives. Unfortunately, we only have two
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: senators from the Northern Territory, and states such as Tasmania,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: even though it only got double our population, have twelve
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: senators each. So that's unfair and something that we want
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: to change. But that's why Senator prices vote becomes really important,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: right because you'd hope that you can count on all
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the senators from the territory to be saying that territorians
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: having the same rights as people in the States is
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: what is right and proper.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So we'll know by Thursday next week.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, it has been debated in the Senate, but obviously
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: if there's more senators from the opposition that want to
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: vote and have their say and sort of the Americans
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: call it a filibuster where you can stretch it out
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: so that the government then neither has to make a
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: decision whether to stop the debate and put it to
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: a vote or whether to let everyone speak and then
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the Parliament or the Senate rather will just continue on
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: as long as it takes. We will stay here until
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: we've got territories. It's bill pass, that's what will be
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: doing next week.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Well, Luke, let's wait and see exactly what goes on.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I do hope that we get to the point where
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the Northern territories realistically able to decide for ourselves. In
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: other news, so we know that the federal government has
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: locked in more affordable early education for about five thousand
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: local families in Darwen and Palmerston laws to deliver the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: reforms past the Parliament earlier in the week. Luke, how
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: exactly are these additional places going to work?
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an additional funding for families with children in
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: early childhood education. It's fantastic that it's past is going
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: to mean for Yeah, five thousand local families in Darwen
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: and Palmerston it's going to need more affordable early education.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: The childcare subsidy for families earning eighty grand or less,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and that's a fair wack for people in the North.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: The subsidy will increase the ninety percent coverage of those fees.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Through the subsidy, our family on a combined income of
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: about one hundred and twenty grand as one example, with
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: one child in care will be seventeen hundred and eighty
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: dollars better off in the first year under our reforms.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: And this is not only the cost of living relief
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: for territory families. Is also going to boost productivity because
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: it means that parents and especially mums who are usually
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: the care can work more paid hours if they want
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: to with their kids getting that early childhood education that's
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: so important of their kids development. Means more money in
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: the pockets of territory families, and that's a great thing
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: for territory, is a good thing for business because we
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: all know we're struggling with workforce, but what we've had
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: at the moment is families tossing up, well, is it
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: really worth me going to work because all the money
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: that I earn is going to pay for childcare.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's bloody expensive.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It does make a big difference, particularly for those people
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that are obviously that fall within that combined income and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: within that singular income if it is a single parent,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: because it's really tough going when you've got your kids
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in childcare. It is so expensive and it does make
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: your question whether you should bother going back to work
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: In some cases, no.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Exactly, Okadie. And we've copped a bit of a flag
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: for extending it to people who are on quite good incomes.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: But I guess the way that we've seen this is
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: the universality of government services should mean that people that
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: might be on a good wage, they should be entitled
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: to affordable early childhood care as well, the same as
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: they're entitled to send their kids to a government school,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: same as they're entitled to go to well in hospital
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: or public hospital, you know. And that's a great thing
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: about our country, I think, is that we know we've
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: agreed as a society that we want to provide those
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: basic supports early childhood education, support, primary school, secondary school education.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: We've put on twenty thousand more government funded university spots
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and fee free k for a lot more territorians, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: now I think that's going to set us up for
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: the future and help our economy to grow as well.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Luke, we are going to have to leave it. They're
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning. Thanks for keeping
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: us up to date with what's going on with the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Territory Rights Bill as well.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Cady, and yeah, I hope everyone has great weekend.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you.