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Ghislaine Maxwell Appeals | Olympic Athletes Expressing Their Views · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty. That bet is stop thinging.
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  Speaker 2: About AfD cover KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. Here
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  Speaker 2: it is a Tuesday morning, February the tenth, and the
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  Speaker 2: story of Savannah Guthrie and her mom, Nancy continue on.
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  Speaker 1: It's what ninth tenth day after the.
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  Speaker 2: Abduction, and Savannah's family well, actually she and her brother
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  Speaker 2: and sister have reached out to the kidnapper saying we
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  Speaker 2: will pay, and at this point asking the public for
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  Speaker 2: any information. The story is getting a Not only is
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  Speaker 2: it heartbreaking and just really gut wrenching, but it's also
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  Speaker 2: getting very weird in terms of a kidnapping. We don't
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  Speaker 2: often see it like this. Okay, moving, Oh, here's another
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  Speaker 2: one we will see very often. Julane Maxwell is appealing
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  Speaker 2: for clemency from the President. She declines to answer questions
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  Speaker 2: from lawmakers and a couple things are very strange here.
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  Speaker 2: She said in a deposition that happened yesterday in front
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  Speaker 2: of Congress in front of the.
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  Speaker 1: House that.
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  Speaker 2: If President Trump ends her prison sentence, she's willing to
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  Speaker 2: testify that neither he nor former President Bill Clinton had
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  Speaker 2: done anything wrong. I thought she had already said that,
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  Speaker 2: which is very strange because that's the ammunition she has
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  Speaker 2: and she's already spent that. So the House Oversight Committee
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  Speaker 2: wanted her to answer questions during this video call where
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  Speaker 2: she's in a federal prison camp in Texas. That's another
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  Speaker 2: story about her being in that prison camp. She's serving
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  Speaker 2: a twenty year sentence for sex trafficking and the lawmakers
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  Speaker 2: are trying to investigate how she was able to sexually
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  Speaker 2: abuse underage girls for years. So there's a reckoning big
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  Speaker 2: time over the abuse spilled into businesses and governments around
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  Speaker 2: the globe. It seems to have affected the United States
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  Speaker 2: less than, for example, in England, where the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: is under scrutiny for his connection to Epstein and again
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  Speaker 2: not accused of anything wrong, but too close a connection,
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  Speaker 2: which I guess for anybody is too close a connection
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  Speaker 2: at this point, and they're looking at him retiring or
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  Speaker 2: being forced to resign because of this. So the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the world is getting a little wonk ear. So
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  Speaker 2: here is the question I have. She kept on invoking
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  Speaker 2: my Fifth Amendments right to silence, So what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen if well, here's what the Committee can do give
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  Speaker 2: her immunity limited immunity, and if a witness has limited
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  Speaker 2: immunity then has to testify because the Fifth Amendment is
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  Speaker 2: saying I have the right not to say anything because
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  Speaker 2: they could harm me in terms of any criminal activity,
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  Speaker 2: of any criminal accusation. Well, if immunity stops any criminal accusation,
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  Speaker 2: then the Fifth Amendment is out the window because there's
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  Speaker 2: no threat. There's absolutely no threat of proceeding with a
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  Speaker 2: criminal charge. Okay, And that's one issue. The other issue is,
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  Speaker 2: I pointed out, she's already said Bill Clinton and Trump
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  Speaker 2: have done nothing wrong, so she is appealing, and Maxwell's
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  Speaker 2: attorney said that she's prepared to speak fully and honestly
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  Speaker 2: if granted clemency by the president. Now Here is the issue,
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  Speaker 2: and it's explaining why not if. The attorney added that
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  Speaker 2: Trump and Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing, but Miss
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  Speaker 2: Maxwell alone can explain why they are innocent of any wrongdoing,
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  Speaker 2: and the public is entitled to that explanation, which, frankly,
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand at all what the position is. And
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  Speaker 2: the White House pointed to a previous remark from the
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  Speaker 2: President that the prospect of a pardon was not on
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  Speaker 2: his radar, did not say I will not pardon her,
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  Speaker 2: much like President Biden, to his credit, said he would
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  Speaker 2: never pardon his son and then turned around and pardoned
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  Speaker 2: his son.
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  Speaker 1: So Biden straight out lied.
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  Speaker 2: The president is I think he's just dancing around this
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  Speaker 2: but doesn't have to move, doesn't have to do anything
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  Speaker 2: because he's already been absolved. Maxwell, who knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: She was not only complicit, she was in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of this. She said nothing wrong. I mean Clinton and
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  Speaker 2: the President did nothing wrong. I don't understand where she's
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  Speaker 2: going demanding or asking for clemency. And then the other
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  Speaker 2: issue is politically now the president is pardoning a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. He pardoned more people in his probably
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  Speaker 2: his first week than the last five presidents combined, and
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  Speaker 2: they were all Anybody who backs the president as in
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  Speaker 2: prison basically gets clemency and his pardon. All you have
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  Speaker 2: to do is be an acolyte of the president and
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  Speaker 2: you're in good shape. And if you are against the president,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to take everything he can. Department of Justice,
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  Speaker 2: in the case of Mark Kelly, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about later on Senator Mark Kelly going after him with
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  Speaker 2: a just passion, But politically, how does he give clemency
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  Speaker 2: or pardon Julane Maxwell? Can you imagine the fallout that
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  Speaker 2: would happen, the backlash that would happen. I mean, keep
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  Speaker 2: in mind, remember when he wouldn't release the files, just
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  Speaker 2: refused to release the files. During the Biden administration, course,
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  Speaker 2: he pushed for the files like crazy. During his campaign,
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  Speaker 2: he pushed for the files like crazy, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, when the Justice Department is under his purview,
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  Speaker 2: the files now don't are not released. It was almost
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  Speaker 2: unanimous in Congress, and Congress passed a law that said
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  Speaker 2: the files must be released. What do you think would
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  Speaker 2: happen politically on both sides of the aisle if he
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  Speaker 2: were to grant clemency to a convicted child molester, man,
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  Speaker 2: it would just explode. And so, as I said, the
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  Speaker 2: other issue is her being in prison. She was put
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  Speaker 2: into a I think it was a medium security prison initially,
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  Speaker 2: and then the Deputy Attorney General, in a very strange move,
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  Speaker 2: went to interview her over two days and Florida, we
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened, and it's never happened before where
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  Speaker 2: the deputy Attorney general goes to interview someone, at least
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  Speaker 2: to my memory, and all of a sudden, a few
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  Speaker 2: days later, she gets transferred to a minimum security prison
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  Speaker 2: and that smelled like rotten tomatoes. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to this story that's going on, some behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: some not. And as far as the redacted, as far
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  Speaker 2: as the files are concerned, represented Jamie Rask and the
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  Speaker 2: top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. He was one
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  Speaker 2: of the Democrats who actually spent hours looking at non
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  Speaker 2: redacted files, but he had to go into a room
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  Speaker 2: with four computers, could not bring a computer in, could
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  Speaker 2: only take notes.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that if all the House members.
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  Speaker 2: Who triggered the vote on releasing the files, which is
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  Speaker 2: virtually all of them, spend every waking hour over the DOJ,
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  Speaker 2: it would still take months to get through all of
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  Speaker 2: those documents. So this is not going to go away. Also,
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  Speaker 2: sponsors that radio station a lot. Okay. Now, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you what's going on in the Olympics. And this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a real interesting one, and that is statements,
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  Speaker 2: political statements made by Olympians. Gus Kenworthy decided that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to express his feelings about ICE the enforcement of
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  Speaker 2: the agents. So what he did is make a statement
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  Speaker 2: by peeing in the snow with his statement, he's a
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  Speaker 2: British born American raised openly gay freestyle freestyle skater or skier.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, he once won silver for the US. He's
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  Speaker 2: competing for Britain. I'll explaining how that works a little
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  Speaker 2: later on, and he wrote, f Ice, that's what he
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  Speaker 2: peed into the snow and posted it to his Instagram
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  Speaker 2: account and urging followers to write to their senators asking
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  Speaker 2: them not to support the Department of Homeland Security funding
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  Speaker 2: because it fail, because the Senate fails to meaningful rain
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  Speaker 2: in ice and border patrol. And as you can imagine,
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  Speaker 2: the Internet responded big time, including death threats, because that's
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  Speaker 2: what happens today. It's not just I disagree. I not
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  Speaker 2: even using expletives like he did. He is out of
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  Speaker 2: his his f a mind, you know, f him. Oh no,
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  Speaker 2: hope you break your leg, your embarrassment to athletes everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Hope you blow your knee out, followed by a homophobic
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  Speaker 2: slur hile Ice read one.
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  Speaker 1: More and it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 2: And of course the President came in on US Olympic
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  Speaker 2: skier Hunter hess who also posted an anti Trump statement,
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  Speaker 2: anti US government statement, and the President rights on truth
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  Speaker 2: social he's a real loser. He doesn't represent his country
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  Speaker 2: in the current Winter Olympics. If that's the case, he
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have tried out for the team. It's two baddies
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  Speaker 2: on It very hard to root for someone like this.
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  Speaker 2: And the bottom line is this is another lesson in
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  Speaker 2: President Trump's world, It's very binary.
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  Speaker 1: It's that simple.
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  Speaker 2: You support the president or you're a real loser. You
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  Speaker 2: have no talent. If you're an actor, in the worst cases,
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  Speaker 2: you are seditionist and somehow you've committed a crime like treason,
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  Speaker 2: which is really scary. The part about if you don't
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  Speaker 2: support me, you're a real loser and you have no talent,
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I mean, that's how you ask.
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  Speaker 2: And then American athletes are trying to figure out their
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  Speaker 2: responses about being American, and they're doing it very carefully.
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  Speaker 2: Now I understand that I've heard that Americans who are
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  Speaker 2: overseas are going out of their way to say I
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  Speaker 2: didn't vote for him, I am not on the side
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  Speaker 2: of the administration, because, as you can imagine, Americans are
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  Speaker 2: not popular over there in Italy. I mean that obviously
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  Speaker 2: is the poster child of the world attention right now,
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  Speaker 2: and some athletes are staying away from it. Snowboarder Chloe Kim,
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  Speaker 2: American snowboarder, two time gold medalists, coming from South Korea,
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  Speaker 2: her parents immigrated, and she just said it's really important
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  Speaker 2: for us to unite and kind of stand up for
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  Speaker 2: one another with all that's going on, and basically gave
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  Speaker 2: the US the kudos for the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, she quoted.
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  Speaker 2: The US has given my family and I so much opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kart sort of an underlying, very benign statements
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  Speaker 2: to what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I'm going to give you a little bit of history.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go back to nineteen sixty eight.
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  Speaker 2: And American sprinters Tommy Smith and John Carlos during the
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  Speaker 2: Awards ses, Tommy Smith won the gold that John Carlos
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  Speaker 2: won the bronze. And there they are at the Mexican
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  Speaker 2: Olympic Games nineteen sixty eight. They raised their hands in
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  Speaker 2: a black power salute with black gloves and if you
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  Speaker 2: YouTube it, go to the internet, you will see this
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  Speaker 2: extraordinary picture of them with their heads down, facing down,
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  Speaker 2: bowing so to speak. Right hand up in the air,
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  Speaker 2: actually right and left hand up in the air and
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  Speaker 2: the Black Power salute signifying the kind of discrimination that
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  Speaker 2: blacks underwent that African Americans. And this was nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 2: eight and it was just in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: Civil Rights movement. I mean today, I think it would
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  Speaker 2: be a very different thing.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not new.
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  Speaker 2: It's not new Olympians taking getting involved in political statements,
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  Speaker 2: and do I think it's necessary. I think everybody has
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  Speaker 2: to now get involved in political statements. We are in
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  Speaker 2: that kind of world. Okay, now a word about foreign athletes,
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  Speaker 2: but not the way you think about it. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: we start with the fact that we now allow and
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  Speaker 2: most countries allow, dual citizenship.
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  Speaker 1: When my parents came to the United States in the
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  Speaker 1: fifties and I was a.
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  Speaker 2: Little one, my parents had to give up their Brazilian
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  Speaker 2: citizenship in order to become Americans.
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  Speaker 1: That changed.
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  Speaker 2: And now if they were to become American citizens, which
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  Speaker 2: is difficult when you're dead, it's you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: renounce your previous citizenship. By the way, since I was
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  Speaker 2: a kid and I couldn't renounce legally, I actually was
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  Speaker 2: a dual citizen simply because of the loophole back then.
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  Speaker 1: And I hold dual citizenship. I can.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a citizen in both Brazil and the United States,
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  Speaker 2: and I carry two passports. And therein lies the story.
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  Speaker 2: Because Russia is banned. Russia is banned completely. So how
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  Speaker 2: do Russian athletes and I mean lots of them compete
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  Speaker 2: in the Olympics. Well, they don't compete under the Russian flag.
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  Speaker 2: What they do is compete with other countries. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of them are dual citizens, a lot of them actually
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  Speaker 2: apply from citizenship for citizenship in other countries. Theoretically I could,
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  Speaker 2: since I wouldn't be able to make the Olympic team
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  Speaker 2: in the United States, I could theoretically in fact participate
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  Speaker 2: in the Games as a Brazilian. And I was seriously
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  Speaker 2: considering entering the pie eating contest of the Olympics, which
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  Speaker 2: I think I would be a medalist, there's no question
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I am too busy doing this show, so I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: The point is there's two kinds of Russians that are competing,
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  Speaker 2: and not the male and female kind, and that is
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  Speaker 2: ai ns individual neutral athletes who are neutral. They're Russians,
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  Speaker 2: but they're competing as individual neutral athletes. And what happens
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  Speaker 2: is they compete and if they meddle because they're not
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  Speaker 2: attached to any country, they areral, the IOC recognizes them
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  Speaker 2: as competing but not representing a country. And if any
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  Speaker 2: one of them medal, they go up on the standless.
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  Speaker 2: See you have a gold medalist, and usually the flag
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  Speaker 2: of course of that country goes up and the national
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  Speaker 2: anthem is played.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if one of the ai.
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  Speaker 2: Ns gold becomes a gold medalist up on the stand,
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  Speaker 2: no flag goes up and no nation national anthem. Now
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  Speaker 2: there's a move to play a Taylor Swift song as
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  Speaker 2: the Yeah see things going damn right? Isn't that a
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  Speaker 2: good idea? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Play Ophelia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there ain't nothing there when a gold medal
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  Speaker 2: is issued.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really strange.
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  Speaker 2: But you know how many gold medalists or how many
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  Speaker 2: ai ns there are? Literally just a handful, but there
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  Speaker 2: are tons of Russians who have become uninvited guests. Thirteen
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  Speaker 2: athletes who would have competed for Russia have been cleared
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  Speaker 2: to compete as individual neutral athletes, which represents only a
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  Speaker 2: fraction of the total Russian contingent in Italy, and a
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  Speaker 2: figure skating coach, Titanya Tarasova said, I don't understand why
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  Speaker 2: we're why we're invited and then we're not And why
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  Speaker 2: is that? Because Russia officially can't come to the Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: and that started with the invasion.
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  Speaker 1: Also because of the invasion.
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  Speaker 2: Also it's the doping scandal the previous Olympics, where Russia
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  Speaker 2: denies the athletes were doped, and they were, and so.
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  Speaker 1: Russia has been out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yet Russian's in it how well, because Russian athletes are
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  Speaker 2: either competing for other countries or their ai n s aims,
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  Speaker 2: and that is individuals who are neutral belong to no country,
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  Speaker 2: and you're allowed to do that. In the Olympics. Dual
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  Speaker 2: citizenship has changed at all. For example, you've got figure skaters,
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  Speaker 2: and figure skating is everything for the Russians. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that's where they excel, is figure skating. Different countries excel
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  Speaker 2: different ways. For example, the Alpine countries dominate skiing, as
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  Speaker 2: you would think you've got the Americans dominate track and field.
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  Speaker 2: During the course of the Summer Games, one of the
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  Speaker 2: weirdest events is the biathlon, which is dominated by the Fins.
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  Speaker 1: And why is that? Biathlon is really strange?
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  Speaker 2: It's cross country skiing and then you stop and you
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  Speaker 2: target shoot and then you go back to cross country skiing.
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  Speaker 2: It's so difficult because you're out of breath and it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to shoot when you're out of breath.
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  Speaker 1: Why do they even have that, Well, it's why. And
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  Speaker 1: why do the Fins do so well?
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  Speaker 2: Because the Fins fight the Russians or have fought the Russians,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what their military does.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, fare go cross country ski and then
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  Speaker 1: you shoot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you might as well caught cross country ski
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  Speaker 2: and then do some break dancing and then you shoot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you can throw almost anything in there.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Russians really do well in figure skating and at the
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  Speaker 2: Milan courtin at Winter Olympics. These Olympics, only thirteen athletes
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  Speaker 2: so would have competed for Russia have been cleared to
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  Speaker 2: compete as ains individual neutral athletes. The rest and I
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  Speaker 2: mean dozens compete for other countries. Why well, because two reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One virtually every country now accepts dual nationals. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: a dual national and I can compete for Brazil, for example,
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  Speaker 2: if I ever would. I'm not much of an Olympian,
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  Speaker 2: so that's not on the table. But You've got athletes
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  Speaker 2: that are American, but let's say we're born in Canada
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  Speaker 2: or their parents were Canadian, and they can apply for
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  Speaker 2: passports and they're still American, but they decide to compete
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  Speaker 2: for various other countries. We got the Netherlands, we have France,
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  Speaker 2: you have Germany, you have so many of them.
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  Speaker 1: Chinese.
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  Speaker 2: Matter of fact, the Chinese are so aggressive is that
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  Speaker 2: they are fast tracking and they are soliciting any connection
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  Speaker 2: to China that an athlete may have and saying, we'll
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  Speaker 2: grant you citizenship, just apply so you can represent China.
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  Speaker 2: And so you're going to see a bunch of Russians
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  Speaker 2: from a bunch of countries who don't represent Russia. And
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  Speaker 2: I like this. It makes a lot of sense. And
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the IOC, the International Olympic Committee, allows
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  Speaker 2: us to happen is because the athletes aren't involved in
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  Speaker 2: any of the politics that going on the invasion of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Where's an athlete I have any influence what happened with
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  Speaker 2: the doping unless you are part of the doping. What
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  Speaker 2: happened Afghanistan when Carter boycotted Russia and wouldn't allow Russia
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  Speaker 2: sixty countries that was during the la Olympics, and then
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  Speaker 2: the next Olympics, Russia wouldn't let the United States in.
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  Speaker 2: So there have been a lot of politics with the
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  Speaker 2: Olympics and should not be political.
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  Speaker 1: It should not be political.
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  Speaker 2: So the IOC allows Russian athletes or any athlete to
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  Speaker 2: compete for another country if number one, they are connected
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  Speaker 2: to that country, and recognizing that these athletes spend a
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  Speaker 2: lifetime preparing for the Olympics. I mean from the time
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  Speaker 2: they're toddlers and when they go to school, they're practicing
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  Speaker 2: early in the morning. They practice every day, they practice
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  Speaker 2: every weekend. They don't have a life except for competing
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  Speaker 2: and qualifying and trying to get to the Olympics. And
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  Speaker 2: they should not be punished because of political considering.
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  Speaker 1: And I like the.
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  Speaker 2: Idea of a neutral athlete getting the gold where there
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  Speaker 2: no flag and there is no national anthem playing, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of weird. And there was a time with Russia.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Russia didn't have a national anthem. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they would have the Internacional but that is the music
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  Speaker 2: that was played by communists all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have an anthem.
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  Speaker 2: So what would happen is that the Russian flag would
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  Speaker 2: go up, or the Soviet Union, the USS USS our
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  Speaker 2: flag would go up, and it was silent. So someone
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: in Russia, some honcho, said you got to write a
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  Speaker 2: national anthem. We're going to have to have one, and
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  Speaker 2: they created a national anthem.
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