Latest / The Jake Wimberly Podcast / Kelley Ford Talks College Basketball at About the Halfway Point of the Season
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- 0:00Let's step off into some college basketball. We'll talk about this last question this
- 0:03segment, then get into some more of it, and I may come back
- 0:05to college football before the end. You've got your k Forward ratings for basketball
- 0:09out and you look at the odds courtesy Penn Gaming and others to win the
- 0:12national championship in basketball at you know it's it's a cluttered field. You've got
- 0:16Houston as the number one team in the k Ford ratings for basketball perdue,
- 0:21Arizona, Tennessee, and Auburn, followed by Alabama, Yukon, North Carolina,
- 0:25Iowa State, and BYU. How deep of a field could we be
- 0:29looking at this year? I think it's open this year, Jake, as
- 0:34it's been in recent years and the NABA Tournament. With college basketball, it's
- 0:40such a it's such a unique setup because it really is all about matchups and
- 0:44the chaos of just the one off game. That's why everyone loves March Madness,
- 0:48why we call it March Madness. It's hard to really pinpoint and identify,
- 0:52you know, how it's going to play out. I do think the
- 0:54teams that you just mentioned certainly are going to be at the forefront of those
- 0:58odds have the best chance to make a potentially in March, but there's tons
- 1:02of teams outside of that that you didn't mention who you know, if you
- 1:06discount, then you do it at your own risk. And you know,
- 1:07Duke is a team that's got the upper end to go out and win six
- 1:11games in March. Kansas. Outside the top to top ten right now of
- 1:15my power ratings, there's you could go on and on about teams that have
- 1:19a chance. There is some proven there's some proven recent history here about where
- 1:23you need to be and kind of adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency by ten pounds,
- 1:27so you can kind of whittle it down through that. But at any
- 1:30given year, teams can come out of We just saw last year with yukon
- 1:34it. I believe there were four seeds. You don't have to be a
- 1:37top one, two, three seeds to make a deep run in the tournament.
- 1:40It's all about peaking at the right time and getting favorable matchups in March.
- 1:42But yes, from a power rating standpoint, those teams you mentioned,
- 1:46they're certainly the ones that you can expect to be playing late in the March
- 1:49and then into early April. Kelly, when you look at the conference averages.
- 1:52I like what you've done here, conference average k Ford rating points per
- 1:55game above or below Division one average, Big Ten are Big twelve. Skins
- 2:00comes in at twelve point two, the Big Ten right behind him at ten
- 2:02point four, moving up the SEC ten point three, Big easton then the
- 2:07ACC And of course we know this when you get into college basketball, you
- 2:09get into you know, as much as what you've got thirty three different conferences
- 2:13here. It really is interesting that how many I think we forget how many
- 2:16people play Division one basketball. They could get into the tournament. But let
- 2:20me ask you about the SEC. How deep is this league? You know,
- 2:23we have those conversations down here. Is this a seventeen league to the
- 2:27tournament as an eighteen league, ninth league team? How deep is this is
- 2:30this league? In your estimation? Yeah, the SEC is obviously the Kings
- 2:36of the grid Iron, but very good in men's basketball as well. I
- 2:39think you can go seven, eight, nine deep into the tournament this year.
- 2:43Of course, the bubble starts getting murky. You get your bid Steelers,
- 2:45But in terms of the best teams in the SEC, for me,
- 2:49it kind of starts with a top tier of grouping Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama
- 2:53all very similarly power rated up there in the top five, the top ten
- 2:57in the country. So to me, that's kind of the class of the
- 3:00SDC. If you will, Kentucky, it's probably in that next kind of
- 3:02tier, that next grouping of teams Texas, A and M Florida, Mississippi
- 3:08State right there in your backyard, Jake. Those are also some teams that
- 3:13from a power rating standpoint, are performing at a very very high level,
- 3:15at top forty level nationally. You talk about next year what the SEC is
- 3:21going to look like. Both Texas and Oklahoma right now in the top thirty
- 3:23five of my power ratings on the basketball side, So I think you can
- 3:28get all the way down into the middle, maybe even that third quartile of
- 3:31the conference where you've got resumes that put you in a position to be under
- 3:37consideration on selection Sunday, because that's what the committee's looking at. And if
- 3:40someone who works in a conference office and overseas basketball in the Horizon League,
- 3:45I can speak pretty detailed on what the committee's valuing and what they don't value.
- 3:50When you play in a conference like the SDC or like the Big Twelve
- 3:53where Night in and night out. These games that you're playing, they're Quad
- 3:57one, their Quad two opportunities. You get rewarded by the committee for winning
- 4:01those games. You do not get punished for losing those games. So even
- 4:06if a team has collected some losses that and that lost columns really piling up,
- 4:11if all of those losses are in Quad one and Quad two, in
- 4:14the eyes of the selection committee, you actually still have a pretty good resume.
- 4:16And that's how you can see, you know, eight nine teams from
- 4:19a single conference get into the tournament. Which conference, in your estimation are
- 4:26we sleeping on this year? That that could be you know, somewhat of
- 4:29a surprise. I mean, obviously we know about the Big twelve, of
- 4:30the ten, the SEC, the Big East, the ACC. I mean,
- 4:32were looking at the you know, Mountain Valley Conference. Are we looking
- 4:35at the West Coast Conference? Are we looking at maybe a WAC? I
- 4:40mean, where are you looking that? Maybe a lot of people aren't looking.
- 4:44Yeah, I think you know, outside the Power six if you will
- 4:46in college basketball, that'd be your your traditional Power five plus the Big East.
- 4:50For me, it's easy to go right to the Mountain West. I
- 4:54think the Mountain West, they might get four teams in the tournament this year.
- 4:57And you know for a for a high MI, mid major, high
- 5:00major, whatever you want to call them. They do play FBS football of
- 5:02course in the Mountain West, but typically not a basketball powerhouse that comes to
- 5:06mind the Mountain West Conference. I also think the A ten is a conference
- 5:11to keep an eye with some good teams the WCC, you know, the
- 5:14West Coast Conference. Usually they've got Gonzaga and then you know Saint Mary's will
- 5:17be a strong team too. In recent air of San Francisco has made a
- 5:20tournament out of the WCC. Gonzaga is down this year. This is not
- 5:26the Gonzaga type team that you're used to seeing from the last twenty five years.
- 5:30So I'm not sure how much the WCC is going to be a big
- 5:32player come March this year, but definitely the Mountain West, the APEN,
- 5:36that's where you need to be looking if you're looking outside the traditional power six