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- 0:00- Hello, everyone. This is Erica Spicer Mason with
- 0:02- Becker's Healthcare. Thank you so much for tuning
- 0:05- into the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:08- So today, we're going to cover how FQHCs
- 0:11- can extend the reach of behavioral health and
- 0:13- substance use disorder services for vulnerable populations.
- 0:17- And joining me for this important conversation,
- 0:19- we have with us Robin Henry, the chief
- 0:22- operating officer at Solvera Health.
- 0:25- Robin, so glad to have you with us
- 0:27- today. Thank you again for being here, and
- 0:29- welcome to the podcast.
- 0:30- Thank you so much. I'm happy and excited
- 0:32- to be here and be a part of
- 0:34- this conversation.
- 0:35- Yeah. And I know it's an important one.
- 0:37- And before we get into the nitty gritty
- 0:39- here, Robin, I wanted to know if you
- 0:41- could share just a little bit more about
- 0:43- yourself, maybe a quick overview for our listeners
- 0:45- of your background and your work at Silvera.
- 0:48- Oh, absolutely.
- 0:49- My background is rooted in health care. I
- 0:52- am a registered nurse. I've
- 0:54- done a lot of work at leadership around
- 0:57- operations and clinical resources.
- 0:59- I intentionally
- 1:00- build care delivery models that improve access while
- 1:04- maintaining quality and sustainability,
- 1:06- being able to design and operationalize
- 1:11- clinic workflows,
- 1:12- whether by integrating behavioral health, leveraging telehealth, or
- 1:15- even deploying alternative care models, all with that
- 1:18- same goal of helping Solvera Health better serve
- 1:21- our complex and our underserved populations.
- 1:24- We do work closely with the communities we
- 1:26- serve, we meet people where they are, and
- 1:28- we assist our patients navigate the healthcare ecosystem.
- 1:31- Within Solvera Health, our focus is that we
- 1:35- deliver hospitality and healthcare.
- 1:37- We look to expand access to primary and
- 1:40- specialty care services that are often difficult to
- 1:42- deliver at scale, including behavioral health and substance
- 1:46- use disorder treatment.
- 1:47- Additionally, as this federally qualified health care space,
- 1:50- we are what is called a look alike
- 1:53- In both of our clinic locations, Peoria, Illinois,
- 1:55- Galesburg, Illinois,
- 1:57- we have our in house pharmacy services.
- 2:00- Great to learn more about you, Robin, and
- 2:03- Silvera as well.
- 2:05- Especially appreciate that note you mentioned about aiming
- 2:07- to deliver hospitality and health care.
- 2:10- What a great phrase to live by.
- 2:13- But I wanna start high level here and
- 2:14- set the scene for our listeners a bit.
- 2:16- You know, FQHCs,
- 2:17- for anyone who may not be aware in
- 2:19- the audience,
- 2:20- these organizations have always been on the front
- 2:22- lines of serving vulnerable
- 2:24- populations,
- 2:25- but behavioral health and SUD services
- 2:28- in those communities,
- 2:29- the needs have really, intensified
- 2:31- in recent years.
- 2:33- So, Robin, I'd love to know from your
- 2:35- vantage point,
- 2:36- where are you seeing the gap between what
- 2:38- FQHCs are being asked to deliver
- 2:41- for behavioral health and what they're actually able
- 2:43- to provide?
- 2:44- Yes. Of course. The gap that I am
- 2:46- witnessing, it is both structural and practical.
- 2:49- On one hand, FQHCs are expected to serve
- 2:52- as a comprehensive care hub, safety nets, for
- 2:55- example.
- 2:55- We address not only the physical health of
- 2:58- our patients, but the increasingly complex behavioral health
- 3:01- and substance use disorder needs.
- 3:03- While on the other hand, our reimbursement
- 3:06- models in our workforce availability and infrastructure have
- 3:09- not kept pace with the expectation.
- 3:12- A lot of what we see most often
- 3:14- is the demand outstrips the capacity,
- 3:16- especially for psychiatry,
- 3:19- therapy services, and medication assisted recovery.
- 3:22- The workforce shortages are more severe in our
- 3:24- rural and our underserved communities.
- 3:27- We also have fragmented funding streams that don't
- 3:29- always support this integrated longitudinal
- 3:32- care.
- 3:33- And as a
- 3:34- result, the FQHCs are being asked to deliver
- 3:37- specialty level behavioral care with primary care level
- 3:40- resources,
- 3:41- which is not a sustainable equation without new
- 3:44- approaches.
- 3:46- Yeah. Robin, I think that phrase that you
- 3:47- just used, you know, being asked to deliver
- 3:49- specialty level care with primary care resources that
- 3:52- that really encapsulates
- 3:54- the message that I think you're driving home
- 3:56- here. And I'm sure that it's challenging for
- 3:58- FQHCs
- 3:59- to try to close those gaps on their
- 4:02- own.
- 4:03- So to extend behavioral health and SUD services
- 4:06- into the communities that need them most,
- 4:09- what does an effective
- 4:10- partnership model with an external solution provider really
- 4:14- look like in practice for Silvera or maybe
- 4:16- more broad?
- 4:17- Oh, sure. I know from my own
- 4:21- personal and professional lens,
- 4:22- what makes the most effective partnerships, they are
- 4:25- not bolt on solutions.
- 4:27- We look for partnerships that are as deeply
- 4:30- integrated as an extension of our FQHC care
- 4:33- model.
- 4:34- While in our practice, this means our clinical
- 4:36- alignment,
- 4:37- our providers are operating within our FQHC care
- 4:40- protocols,
- 4:41- the documentation standards, as well as the quality
- 4:44- goals.
- 4:45- We bring our workflow integration, which is the
- 4:47- services that are embedded in the patient journey.
- 4:50- They're not siloed. We're not referred out referring
- 4:53- out patients to intentionally create the barriers. Like
- 4:56- I said earlier, we're really here to navigate
- 4:57- for our patients.
- 4:59- The data interoperability,
- 5:01- this is the shared access to patient information,
- 5:03- so
- 5:04- all of the care teams, internal and external,
- 5:06- can still function as one cohesive unit.
- 5:09- We have our flexible delivery models. This is
- 5:11- combining in person, virtual, or even hybrid care
- 5:14- to meet patients where they are.
- 5:16- We look for the aligned incentives.
- 5:18- FQHC organizations
- 5:19- are focused on outcomes, access, and patient engagement,
- 5:23- not just the volume. For FQHCs,
- 5:26- the most meaningful metrics go beyond our simple
- 5:28- visit counts.
- 5:30- Our metrics to make them meaningful and impactful
- 5:32- are also demonstrating access engagement outcomes and sustainability.
- 5:37- These partnerships that we are orchestrating
- 5:40- for the patients are meant to feel invisible.
- 5:43- Our goal
- 5:44- is from the patient's perspective that we are
- 5:47- one care team all participating in every avenue
- 5:50- of their care.
- 5:52- Thanks, Robin. And I can tell the the
- 5:54- deep focus that your organization has on patients
- 5:56- when you're saying that these partnerships that you're
- 5:59- coordinating and orchestrating are really meant to feel
- 6:02- behind the scenes and unseen to the patients,
- 6:04- but rather help their care journey just feel
- 6:06- smoother
- 6:07- and more seamless.
- 6:08- And I noticed earlier, Robin, you had mentioned
- 6:12- this trend of demand for behavioral health and
- 6:14- SUD services really outpacing
- 6:16- capacity and what FQHCs are able to deliver.
- 6:19- So I wanted to go a little bit
- 6:21- deeper on the workforce piece.
- 6:23- Shortages in behavioral health in terms of the
- 6:26- workforce are, of course, very well documented at
- 6:29- this point. And for FQHCs
- 6:30- operating in underserved areas, that challenge can be
- 6:33- even more acute.
- 6:35- So from your perspective, how can organizations
- 6:37- get creative about extending their clinical reach, you
- 6:41- know, whether that's through tech,
- 6:42- alternative staffing models, or redesigning care delivery
- 6:46- without compromising quality and continuity of care?
- 6:50- This is
- 6:51- a question very near and dear to me
- 6:53- because I feel as an operational leader,
- 6:56- whether being a nurse or clinically sound or,
- 6:59- you know, just by having presence, the thinking
- 7:02- out of the box is essential.
- 7:04- You have to be
- 7:06- not afraid to be a disruptive innovator. It
- 7:09- is essential.
- 7:10- Our organizations that are succeeding because we're rethinking
- 7:14- not only how we deliver the care
- 7:16- by who, but also by how it's delivered.
- 7:18- So it's very strategic.
- 7:20- We look at the team based care model.
- 7:22- We're leveraging care coordinators, our peer support specialists,
- 7:25- we call them patient advocates,
- 7:27- and our behavioral health coaches alongside our licensed
- 7:30- clinicians.
- 7:31- We have our telebehavioral
- 7:33- health,
- 7:34- which allows us to expand access to
- 7:36- more scarcity specialties like psychiatry without having the
- 7:40- geographic constraints in Illinois
- 7:43- speaking to the rural demographics.
- 7:45- We have a tiered care delivery where we're
- 7:47- matching our patient acuity to the appropriate level
- 7:50- per provider. So our specialists,
- 7:52- internal and external, also focus on the highest
- 7:55- need cases.
- 7:56- We've built many of our collaborative care models
- 7:59- to embed behavioral health into primary care workflows
- 8:03- supported by our in house psychiatrist.
- 8:06- Measurement based care, we use standardized tools to
- 8:09- track the outcomes and adjust care in real
- 8:11- time. Fortunately, we're able to do that with
- 8:13- our EHR.
- 8:14- Whereas the key to maintaining the clinical oversight
- 8:17- and continuity,
- 8:18- technology and alternative staffing is here to extend
- 8:22- clinicians reach, not replace
- 8:24- the relationship
- 8:25- based
- 8:26- core of that patient care.
- 8:29- Yeah. Robin, thanks for elaborating there, and it's
- 8:32- been really insightful to learn how your organization
- 8:35- is approaching.
- 8:36- You know, when we're talking about the workforce
- 8:37- here, you've deployed anything from patient advocates to
- 8:41- care navigators, telebehavioral health to changing, you know,
- 8:44- how you're meeting patients by acuity level, but
- 8:47- then also more broadly
- 8:50- I I I love that sentiment about not
- 8:52- being afraid to be a disruptive innovator, and
- 8:54- it sounds like there's quite a bit of
- 8:56- that going on at Silvera, which is fantastic.
- 8:59- And before I let you go, I'd love
- 9:01- to just get kind of your,
- 9:03- what you're looking at for the future.
- 9:06- For an executive at an FQHC who knows
- 9:08- that they need to expand access
- 9:11- to behavioral health and SUD services
- 9:13- but is working within those familiar constrained resources
- 9:16- and competing priorities,
- 9:18- what is your honest advice on where they
- 9:20- could start, and what does success really look
- 9:22- like on the other side of an investment
- 9:24- like that?
- 9:26- My advice to anybody in this space is
- 9:29- to start, focus, and build the momentum upon
- 9:32- that focus drive.
- 9:34- Identifying the highest impact of a gap. Where
- 9:36- is the patient population and data? Where are
- 9:39- the longest wait times for the highest unmet
- 9:42- needs?
- 9:42- Starting there rather than trying to solve everything
- 9:45- at once,
- 9:46- the long wait times that so many people
- 9:48- experience in the poor access are often the
- 9:50- biggest barriers even in our FQHC settings.
- 9:54- I would want someone to pick a scalable
- 9:56- model, not just a one off solution. So
- 9:58- whether it is at telepsychiatry,
- 10:00- whether it is medication assisted recovery treatment expansion
- 10:03- or integrated behavioral health, choose something that will
- 10:06- grow with your organization because you're gonna need
- 10:09- that that reach and those touch points and,
- 10:12- you know, word-of-mouth goes a long way.
- 10:15- Leverage partnerships intentionally.
- 10:17- Don't try I for myself speaking, I do
- 10:20- not try to build everything internally. The right
- 10:22- partner that we have selected has been able
- 10:25- to accelerate access while reducing the operational burden.
- 10:29- We look to align workflows and our metrics.
- 10:32- This integration is what determines success, not just
- 10:34- access.
- 10:36- Measuring the patient engagement, what their follow-up is
- 10:39- to the visits, and what any of these
- 10:40- clinical outcomes look like from day one of
- 10:43- a patient attribution.
- 10:44- Then if you flip the script a little
- 10:46- bit, have the other side of investment, that
- 10:48- success now is gonna bring in shorter wait
- 10:51- times for these
- 10:52- specialty needed services such as behavioral health and
- 10:55- substance use.
- 10:56- Our behavioral health outcomes
- 10:59- really
- 11:00- depend on continuity of care. We need to
- 11:02- see what the visit frequency to the adherence
- 11:05- to the treatment plan is and what the
- 11:06- retention looks like of a thirty, sixty, ninety
- 11:08- day.
- 11:09- What our medication assisted recovery retention rate looks
- 11:13- like for substance use patients.
- 11:15- And if there any drop off between a
- 11:17- first and second visit or what the follow-up
- 11:19- rate looks like after
- 11:21- a crisis event or an emergency room presentation,
- 11:26- knowing that
- 11:27- our patients that are here in front of
- 11:29- us, those that have a higher patient engagement
- 11:31- and retention and treatment are what's gonna have
- 11:33- us to produce these better outcomes because we're
- 11:36- doing it in that fluid approach. We're doing
- 11:37- it with the person who is the expert
- 11:39- in their own health, Really looking for the
- 11:41- clinical outcomes for our high risk.
- 11:44- You know, we're looking at how to reduce
- 11:46- the burden on primary care providers because so
- 11:49- many of them are often carrying these cases.
- 11:52- Really looking at what a sustainable care model
- 11:54- is where our staff also feels
- 11:57- confident to delivering.
- 11:59- Robin, it it's fantastic advice. I appreciate some
- 12:02- of those overarching
- 12:04- points about starting with the highest unmet needs
- 12:07- rather than solving everything at once, but then
- 12:09- going down to those more granular strategies that
- 12:11- you're using at Solferra to measure those improvements
- 12:14- and and measure the return on investment.
- 12:17- It's been great speak speaking with you today,
- 12:19- and I just wanna thank you again for
- 12:21- making the time. Anything else, Robin, before we
- 12:24- close today?
- 12:25- Thank you for for taking the time to,
- 12:27- you know, to meet me and to hear
- 12:28- about our services. You know, none of us
- 12:31- in this health care spectrum are alone. We're
- 12:33- all fighting the good fight. You know, we're
- 12:34- all here for the reasons whether it's personal
- 12:37- or professional, but at the end of the
- 12:38- day, it is these patients that are what
- 12:40- matter. It's these outcomes that are bringing the
- 12:42- sustainability, you know,
- 12:44- and knowing that you can be that problem
- 12:46- solver and having somebody come in your front
- 12:48- door and you're producing that care that keeps
- 12:51- them coming back and then now striving for
- 12:53- their health.
- 12:54- That's really what makes all this worth it.
- 12:57- Nicely said. Robin, thank you again for sharing
- 12:59- your time and and your passion for your
- 13:00- work and what you do. And, of course,
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