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Warm Weather Growing Tips & Exotic Roses [04.05.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: here's Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, how about that. A few minutes late, there's
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  Speaker 2: some technical problems which we hope we've solidified by this time. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: daylight savings thing. I'm sorry, John, what daylight savings thing? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: John didn't get a lot of sleep last night. We'll
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  Speaker 2: go back to John's comment at a minute. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to establish the show, though we say good morning,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Garden America. A few things that we're ironing out.
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  Speaker 2: Tiger's working on that. Hope you had a good week.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the weekend. Listening to us live, listening to us
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  Speaker 2: pre recorded. We do appreciate it. I'm Brian Maine, John
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  Speaker 2: Bagnasco talking about daylight saving time. Tiger making sure that
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  Speaker 2: we stay on the air, and yes, John, we are
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  Speaker 2: on daylight saving time, which means it's lighter longer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought that was why we started four minutes late.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see, how does how would that work? Spring forward,
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  Speaker 2: fall back? Now, let's just come clean. We had a
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  Speaker 2: hard time staying on the air, staying on Facebook Live,
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  Speaker 2: I should say, But we are back now, Tiger, How
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  Speaker 2: confident are you?
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  Speaker 3: You know, once Tiger changed the batteries, everything was just
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  Speaker 3: fine batteries.
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  Speaker 2: You know, two years ago we had the batteries crap
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  Speaker 2: out on us during during the show, right just.
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  Speaker 4: For the mics. It wasn't like, it wasn't anything except
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  Speaker 4: just for the mic connect.
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  Speaker 2: And so Tiger had to change the batteries. So John
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  Speaker 2: has held on too, that for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Just like the time it came over to my patio
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't have a lot of my pots weren't
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  Speaker 2: quite full of soil, right, they were halfway.
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  Speaker 3: Brian, come on, we're talking about somewhere at least twenty
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  Speaker 3: five percent full.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the story changes over the years. That sounds better
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  Speaker 2: because I had, uh, I had a bag of soil
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  Speaker 2: that was like halfway halfway gone. I didn't have a lot,
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  Speaker 2: so I just fed a little to the various pots
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  Speaker 2: to make sure they had something. He comes over. In fact, no,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what you were hanging out? You were
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  Speaker 2: peeking over my fence. I had no idea you were
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  Speaker 2: coming over. And I said, hey, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: And he said, I'm looking at your pots. There's no
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  Speaker 2: soil in them, they're twenty five percent full.
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  Speaker 3: That was one night you learned you need to cover
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  Speaker 3: the roots.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was when you learned not all plants are epiphytes.
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  Speaker 2: That's another good one. And that's when you told me.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, and they were roses. That's what that's what
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  Speaker 2: That's what sparked his interest. They were roses. Anyway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: twenty five percent sounds pretty good. Are your roses doing,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, fantastic? You got them all cut back? Yep,
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  Speaker 2: all new growth, all the new lauds, the new shiny leaves.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you love spring leaves on roads? I do. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a leaf guy. Yeah. That love so so good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, the rain didn't hurt either. This
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  Speaker 2: rain was good for you know what I'm wondering might hurt.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys think, but we're going
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  Speaker 3: from uh at my house said, the last two days
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  Speaker 3: was really cold. It was chill, like a high of
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  Speaker 3: sixty degrees and wind blowing. We had gale force winds
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  Speaker 3: for two or three days in a row. Gale force
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  Speaker 3: so strong that my new roses, you know, the butted maidens.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about that in the past, that the wind
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  Speaker 3: snapped off the flower stem. You know, like wow, when
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  Speaker 3: the bud comes comes out, it'll go, you know, have
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  Speaker 3: a and I know I should cut the first butt off,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't. I want to see it bloom. So
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  Speaker 3: it shoots up like maybe twelve to eighteen inches. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just there attached to the plant, and the wind
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  Speaker 3: comes really strong and just snaps it off.
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  Speaker 2: John just the end of it. Dana just called us
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  Speaker 2: the bicker Brothers. Hey, bicker Brothers. So when you had
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  Speaker 2: these gale.
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  Speaker 3: Force we need to be a show called the Bickerson.
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  Speaker 2: The Bickerson's an old radio show. Yeah, did you run
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  Speaker 2: into the house during this gale storm? And Stana Shannon,
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  Speaker 2: it's a twister. It's a twister. No, I did not
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  Speaker 2: say that. You know that's front. No, it wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: oz a twister. It's a twister. It's that twister when
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  Speaker 2: the tornado is coming. Bert lark. Oh okay, I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking of this before the dream. I was thinking of
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  Speaker 2: the uncle uncle. Yeah what what? What? What? Uncle?
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  Speaker 4: Because her uncle doesn't she live with her auntie m
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  Speaker 4: and uncle.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, that's why that this is?
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  Speaker 4: That is that the scarecrow cowardly.
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  Speaker 2: And they were outside working and the winds came.
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  Speaker 4: She fell into the pig pen and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, your nose. It's a twist, all right, I
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  Speaker 2: got it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So but let John finish his thought because I
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  Speaker 4: think you already forgot about it. But you're concerned because
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  Speaker 4: we've had cool weather right now we're going to have Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, hot and cold. I love Tiger's memory.
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  Speaker 2: Bruce used to stay hot and cold? Lemon split? What
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  Speaker 2: is my citrus split? Hot to cold? Cold?
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  Speaker 3: But you know, now, I'm looking at the forecast for
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  Speaker 3: next week, and we have for I think three or
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  Speaker 3: four days that are predicted to may be maybe hit
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  Speaker 3: one hundred. I mean it's in the nine high nineties.
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  Speaker 3: And if that materializes, I'm wondering what's going to happen
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  Speaker 3: going from this really chilly cold weather to that hot weather, and.
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  Speaker 2: That will be a gradual change or you wake up
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  Speaker 2: the next day and I'll tell you what's not.
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever have you ever vacationed in Florida? You
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  Speaker 4: know at the beginning of summer when you see all
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  Speaker 4: those people come down from the north and then they
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  Speaker 4: just go straight into the hot heat. That's what's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen to your plants. They're gonna get unburned and
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  Speaker 4: toasted out there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm wondering.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the roses will be okay as long
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  Speaker 3: as they're water anyway. I guess that's important for plants
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  Speaker 3: and containers, keep them hydrated, right.
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  Speaker 4: But even then, will the new foliage be able to
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  Speaker 4: withstand that intense heat?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know the wind I had some foliage and
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  Speaker 3: even on a couple of the roses where it didn't snap,
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  Speaker 3: the top parts still wilted over. Yeah, And it's even
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  Speaker 3: though even though the pots were wet, they couldn't take
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  Speaker 3: up because of the wind. Bloink couldn't take up moisture
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  Speaker 3: fast enough to keep the plant hydrated.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what people do make the mistake of, Right,
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  Speaker 4: they see that and they answers put more water on it.
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  Speaker 4: And then you go to the opposite effect, where now
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  Speaker 4: you're drowning your plant.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then it also makes a difference. Is it going
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  Speaker 3: to be hot just hot or hot with wind? If
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  Speaker 3: you add the wind to it, then no good, no good.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm concerned because our friend Joel and Becky came
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  Speaker 3: over to my house on Monday and we got all
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  Speaker 3: the roses ready for this coming up auction, which I
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  Speaker 3: think is May tenth, and we got them all separated.
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  Speaker 3: But you know already I had to pull one out
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  Speaker 3: because it's nap We're not going to have it. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited because this is to get ready for our
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  Speaker 3: big fall auction, raise some money to be able to
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  Speaker 3: support that. But we've got probably we'll have a hundred
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  Speaker 3: roses in this auction. It's mail order or online bidding only,
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  Speaker 3: not in person, but there'll be a lot of roses
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  Speaker 3: offered for the very first.
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  Speaker 2: Time in this country.
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  Speaker 4: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's really cool. Really do a little.
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  Speaker 4: Show for it. We could what days the auction.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Well you can start bidding I think in
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  Speaker 3: a week or so. Okay, but the auction ends on Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: May eleventh, eleven, May tenth, or whatever that is.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's the eleventh, May tenth Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you're going to get your hands on
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  Speaker 2: out my hands. They're coming from me. But I'm saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to hold a few back.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it always has his own stash.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, if it's really rare, I try to keep
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  Speaker 3: one for future propagation because the purpose of what we're
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  Speaker 3: doing is to try to get save roses from extinction,
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  Speaker 3: get them back into the public gardens. And so you
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  Speaker 3: got private gardens people are going to be getting these.
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  Speaker 3: But then we're also working with the Huntington I've gotten
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  Speaker 3: a few emails from Tom Cruth this week and they
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  Speaker 3: lost a few roses that we have and we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get to them. So we're keeping them in public
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  Speaker 3: gardens where people can see them, and then in private
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  Speaker 3: gardens where people share them.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I do, Brian. And then will you
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  Speaker 2: go forth and multiply after that? And we're really multiplying
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  Speaker 2: and be fruitful. We're multiplying, multiplying you bet you okay?
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  Speaker 2: Show a cartoon that you did. Yeah, he can hold
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  Speaker 2: the break. O't close to a break?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, are we close enough that I have time to
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  Speaker 3: do exactly?
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  Speaker 2: I have carved out this portion of the show for
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  Speaker 3: You know we've talked in this year about Ruth Stout
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  Speaker 3: and talked about some videos that she had made, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it was one of our listeners. Paula had
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  Speaker 3: lived in New York when Ruth Stout was over there.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, I became fascinated with some of the things
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  Speaker 3: she did. And this quote is from her, and she said,
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  Speaker 3: we all have preferences. I love Spring anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: But if I could choose, I'd always greet it in
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  Speaker 2: a guard good quote. Excellent, be there in the garden
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  Speaker 5: Met, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: So we are back. The mics were hot. I tested it,
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  Speaker 2: burnt my finger. Hey let's see. Uh, we got a
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  Speaker 2: couple of questions here. We're going to talk about maybe
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  Speaker 2: some updates to the newsletter and some ideas that we
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  Speaker 2: have here in Garden America.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Carlo was asking if we had thunderstorms in San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: We at my house, we did have thunder, but you're
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  Speaker 3: not a storm. I where I live, I can never
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  Speaker 3: tell if it's thunder at first or can't pendle because
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  Speaker 3: they sound the same they're shooting off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we didn't have We had rain, but no thunder.
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  Speaker 4: You know it as funny as yesterday driving the kids
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  Speaker 4: home from school, we we we have this area where
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  Speaker 4: we go high on eight oh five. You can kind
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  Speaker 4: of see all around San Diego, and it looked like
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  Speaker 4: we were in the eye of a giant storm because
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  Speaker 4: when it looked to the east, there was some very
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  Speaker 4: intense clouds, and when I looked to the south, there was
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  Speaker 4: some very intense clouds. And then we looked to the north,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I feel like we're in a giant
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  Speaker 4: hurricane because it looked very bad all around us. And
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  Speaker 4: and so I imagine there were probably some storms going on,
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  Speaker 4: but we were not affected by any of it.
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  Speaker 3: I was standing in my backyard and I looked off
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  Speaker 3: to the north and these like you're staying these dark
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  Speaker 3: black clouds.
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  Speaker 4: Really, but it was sunny where it was, yeah, not
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  Speaker 4: a cloud in the sky, just beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: And then it started raining.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, goodness, crazy all right. So so yeah it missed us,
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  Speaker 4: but it definitely I could see where it did hit
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  Speaker 4: people all around us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Eleanor said that it was cold and windy at her house, fisty.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, then it rain lasted a couple hours
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  Speaker 3: and the next day sunny and warm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have tod It was a beautiful day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was nice. Always nice right after a rain, it
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  Speaker 2: feels good.
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  Speaker 3: We have Kim listening from Tucson. I would imagine Tucson,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's really nice this time.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how I think they start getting hot in April.
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  Speaker 2: Yeh might talk to some buddies and producer buddies in Phoenix,
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  Speaker 2: uh huh. In last couple of weeks they hit ninety five.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah, but then it gets ready, but then it
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  Speaker 2: gets cool again. It's one of those kind of gearing
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  Speaker 2: up for summer. And then after a certain point probably
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing, like John says, later April May, then it's sustained.
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  Speaker 4: Heat, you know, you know in the Phoenix in like
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  Speaker 4: the Arizona area too, is a funny thing like San Diego,
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  Speaker 4: because people have this vision of San Diego and then
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  Speaker 4: they come into San Diego in June and July thinking
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  Speaker 4: it's Southern California, sunny place, and it's not not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we have June gloom and you know, it's not sunny
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  Speaker 4: as you would think it was sunny and warmth. And
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  Speaker 4: Arizona's kind of like that too, where they think all
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  Speaker 4: through the summer it's going to be just hot and dry.
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  Speaker 4: But they have the summer where they get them on
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  Speaker 4: so mons, massive rainstorms come through.
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  Speaker 2: It's warm, but.
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  Speaker 4: They don't yeah, and they don't think they think, oh no,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be hot, dry, and then it rains in.
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  Speaker 3: The isn't it closer to like August?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's later, but I say, they think it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be dry there all the summer, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I made a trip with.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to think it might have been just Joel h
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  Speaker 3: but Cliff oriented told us about a nursery that was
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  Speaker 3: closing down in Phoenix, and we drove out. We rented
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  Speaker 3: the U haul truck and drove out. Remember this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we drove out there to pick up roses and it
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  Speaker 3: was August, and as we're driving, the thought just came
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  Speaker 3: to me, we're going to Phoenix in August. In August,
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  Speaker 3: and the truck's not cool. I mean, no, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be like two hundred degrees.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right in the back where you're ros.
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  Speaker 2: Roses were going to be.
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  Speaker 3: But just by fortune, good luck, there was that monsoon
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  Speaker 3: weather you're talking about. Yeah, so it was cloudy, overcast, cool.
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  Speaker 3: I actually rained a little bit on the roads washing out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that happens over there too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't happen though, so everything came back just perfect.
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  Speaker 2: You know. It's interesting because I went to school in
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  Speaker 2: Flagstaff and of course there's snow in the winter time.
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  Speaker 2: In the summertime, though, every day for twenty minutes a
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  Speaker 2: monsoon really every day sweeps in dumps rain. It's gone
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  Speaker 2: just about every day. Really weird. And that's high elevation
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  Speaker 2: seven thousand feet. But yeah, same kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Tanya from San Jose and Carla from Huntington Beach Or
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  Speaker 3: chatting about Tanya's picture of a on azalea that was
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  Speaker 3: in the newsletter. Oh yeah, and it was a reblooming azalea,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe I don't know if you know that one,
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  Speaker 3: but I think it's a Proven Winters as elias. So
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  Speaker 3: I think Proven Winters is putting out some reblooming.
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  Speaker 2: What were the other ones.
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  Speaker 3: Called Encore Encore series, and I think he planted those
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  Speaker 3: in my house.
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  Speaker 4: I think, so a lot of on Core are yours?
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  Speaker 2: Is that just before he left? Before he left? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the last thing he did before he left.
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  Speaker 3: I have a camellia that I should plant next to it,
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  Speaker 3: called because they both take shade, and the camellia is
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  Speaker 3: called standing ovation. He next Encore is your blooming though
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  Speaker 3: your zeal They've been they've actually been blooming on and
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  Speaker 3: off throughout the whole year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, been around, and there are a lot of his
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: alias are looking really good.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Usually it's.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: It's like spring, a good blooming spring like you're talking about.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Then again in the fall, right, it may be sporadic
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: through the summer, but I'm thinking these Proven Winners maybe
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: more ever blooming.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know a rhododendron spring also spring only, Yeah,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: there spring only right, at least when I grew rudd attender,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: So I don't know what they are yeah, if there's
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: been any different once nowadays? Yeah, because yeah, I mean
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: they you know, who be good to go right now
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: would be the Japanese Friendship Garden right there in Balbo
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Park because they have a lot of his and it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: always looking pretty and if they can get the cherry
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: blossoms and the roots and the aias to kind of
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: go at the same time, agin.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Person Sharon Uh's family. I think it might have been
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Moto donated the cherry trees of the Japanese Friendship.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: They've done a great job of of expanding that. I
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: don't know the last time that you went there.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: What Yeah, Oh, you would be amazed than just going
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: there friendly because I've gone there over the I've gone
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: there over the years. It's a Japanese Friendship garden.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It's nice.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: But they've they've added whole areas now that they didn't
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: have before, and it's it's amazing. It's amazing like that
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: you can spend probably as a as a plant enthusiast,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: you could easily spend five six hours there and just
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: wander the whole thing and see something new and different around. Yeah.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Well, in time to be wandering around.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get older.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: As you get older, Brian, five six hours of wandering
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: won't seem.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Like and you'll forget when you started to wonder.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: And you've wondered why you're wondering.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering why I'm wondering. If we have time
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: for a quick question, I see we got some questions
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on you at.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: John and Newpark Beach. He says he's got a question
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: about shade trees and ground covers. All right, He's tried
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of different plants, from succulence to hostas, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: nothing lives. Next up is an eye ivy, I think, yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: can you comment and recommend one? Well, First of all,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: hostas don't do well in southern California, so don't try those.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Succulents. No, you don't think so, not in shade under
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: a shade tree.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was wondering, what about some of the setums.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Right, But what happens is you know they I've seen
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: it happen and where in the warmer months they do
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: grow pretty well because they do tolerate shade, and they grow.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: But what happens is in the winter months, when it's wet,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: it stays wet and then they get real sparse, you
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, And that's what you're battling. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: so I think, like you know, he mentioned ivy binca.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: You know those trailing plants are going to be your
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: best bet.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, right, all right, Well
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: discuss when we hold the same thought left to hold, John,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you can one to the hallway through the break. We're
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: going to be back much quicker on Facebook Live, BIS
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Talk Radio. Taking a break back after these messages here
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: on starting the mirror.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All Right, I hope you had a good break. We
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: are back. Let's go back to the subject matter. Before
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the break, we were talking about shade trees and what
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to grow right under under.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Shade trees, you want a groundcover, and the biggest thing that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: People battle is the back of sunlight.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Lack of sunlight and it stays wet, you know, so
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: you you battle those two things.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Now, what about the kind of tree that shay tree?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: The reason I'm bringing that up is if it's something
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: that drops a lot of leaves and you've got a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: small leaved ground cover, isn't it going to be like
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: cover it up and bury it? Right, So you need
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: something a little more bigger.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you talked about how it retains moisture, and if
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you have leaves dropping on top of that moisture, it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: never gonna dry out. Yeah, well it depends how you water.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of the water. There's
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of like you know, this just goes to
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: like the whole gardening like you know, you know, if
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: we want to go down this rabbit hole, it's like, Okay,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: let's start off with is it an evergreen shade tree
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: or is it a deciduousk tree? Because if it's an evergreen,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: like I said in my comment, you worry about the winter,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: not necessarily the summer months. Because you water it, Succulents grow,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: groundcovers grow. All is good, and plants actually enjoyed living
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: in the shade a little bit. Okay.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Done says by the way, that it's a pine tree.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, so it's an evergreen. And so the issue that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I have is that even during the winter months it's shading,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: so you get a good rain underneath the shade tree,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that water doesn't go away for three weeks four weeks,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: depending on you know, how much rain and then how
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: frequent it gets. So it's succulent. Can't grow in that
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: water soil that well, you know. So it's a challenge
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: where if it was a deciduous tree like you know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: we're maybe John was going like a seat them actually
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: would not do bad because it gets full sun because
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: it loses all the leaves in that time.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Of the air.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: And now that watering issue isn't concern so so.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So what are we gonna do under a pine?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Under a pine ivy?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: But now Ivy's you gotta be careful of, yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Right, because there're so enthusiastic. What was it maybe.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's like forty years ago now, thirty forty years
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: ago everyone had Algerian.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because you cann't kill it, right, that's all
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: plants come into the markets like, oh, it's tough, it
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: grows fast, it does this.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: But I remember going by people's homes and seeing al
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Jeri and Ivy like almost knee high, even up to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: waist iah because it would just build up on top
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: itself and then it was full of snails and everything,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: and so Algery and Ivy is and no, yeah, but uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: what type of ivy? Yeah, I mean they're smaller leaf divy.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: There's the smaller leaf and then you know, kind of
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: like we said, a lot of the and this is
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a general term, a lot of the plain green ivys
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: with a smaller leaf are also very bigger as growers.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: So they're you know, enthusiastic as Brian.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: They don't mind the water.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't mind the water. But if you
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: go with a variegated foliage one, they don't grow usually
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: as quickly, so a little bit more manageable. That's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: good idea, you know, like if you if you found
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: a variegated just you know, just a varrogated English iv Yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: because those don't take over as quickly as some of
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the other green varieties do because they just don't grow
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: as quickly as a general rule. You know. The other
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: thing under a pine tree, and we were talking about
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Japanese friendship gardens, what about a mondo gras usually see
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: those in that kind of environment, don't you do they
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: take the water? I think so I think that might yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I feel like I seen mondo ground pine trees.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Right, maybe even what about loriap.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: The shorter one, it would be great. That tall one
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: would be.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Loriopy would be perfect under there, Yeah, because you don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: have to worry about the thing that worries me. I've
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: had bad experiences with vines.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I had to move from my old house because of
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the cats.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, se house because of a vine.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was horrible, like the vine from hell.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And then you know Kipskate just gave up on his
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: house because of a vine. So so loriopy loriope, that's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: what we pick, ivy, you know, you know those are
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: those are gonna be good groundcovers underneath there, and.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: He's going to start growing up the tree.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: It will you have to go to stay here?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well loriio p there's no And if people are
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: wondering what we talk about, sometimes people pronounce that Larry.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's it's common name something? It has a funny
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: common name.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But and then there's there's different versions of it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And then there's a variegated version of that as well,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: so meaning like a more of a white in its
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: sleep and those do not grow as aggressive either. But
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I would almost say you wanted the green.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Woe is l i r O p E Right, Yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: lily turf is oh lovely turfy. That's an uncommon common name,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: do you think so? Yeah, I don't. I've never heard
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: anybody ask for a lily turf.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: If it's like asking for a Frangia panny.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody asked for fran japanny. They want plumeria exactly.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of uncommon common uncommon common.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: By the way, another plant that might do under there
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: that I've never seen anyone use.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So maybe it doesn't.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: No, it does, but just nobody ever plants some outdoors.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: There's a house plant called the piggyback plant, and I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: just amazed at how well that does outside. And they
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: they like the water so that's not going to bother them,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: and they're just kind of cute.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And we talked about that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Who asked for this There was John and Newport Beach.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Newport Beach. Oh man, you have options too because Newport
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Beach because like John mentioned, you know, there's actually a
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: lot of tropical you know, like house plants that people
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: would be like, oh, and they would grow well there
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: because it's Newport Beach, very mild temperatures.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, there's shade shrubs, you could use if
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you didn't want to ground cover like you had dranges
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: would be great, right, beautiful yep. And you've got the
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: acid from the needles. From the needles, if you want
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: blue hydraine, it'll yeah, it'll help to keep them blue.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. And pine trees are great trees. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: love when people have pine trees on their properties because
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I think they're very pretty trees. But it's it's a
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: tough mastic.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: We have pine trees everywhere in Pacific Beach back, yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: growing up, and one street in particular, Olive Oliver Oliver
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Street east and west. So if you have Pacific Beach
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Drive running east and west going north, a couple of
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: blocks or block to Oliver and probably for eight nine
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: blocks on both sides of the street, pine trees growing over,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: almost touching each other, over the street, over the street,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: creating shade. Yeah, but you're right, it's a mess.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: And it's not like you know, uh, liquid amber mess
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: where they fall down. You rake up the leaves into
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: a big pile and you jump in it, and that's fun.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Pine trees are messy after a windstorm and you can't
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: really rake up the leaves very easily and they aren't
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: fun to jump into, and they're very point and sharp,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: and you can't walk around barefoot.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I have some pine tree multi I'm using on the hillside.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Love it. Jan and Brentwood mentions that she call capital
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: letters hates fines. Oh yeah, And I hope she's not
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: talking about climbing roses, because I have a feeling she
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: may like climbing roses. But yeah, vines you've got to have.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: You know, right now, people walking down the street all
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: stop and comment because on the fence are some primrose jasmin,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the pink jasmine, I should say, not primrose, but pink.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Jasmin, all in bloom, all in bloom, and you can't
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: avoid it because it's so fragrant, right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: And every and somebody mentioned the other day it was
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: out there working and you know, if I ever feel
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: like I need a little pick me up and I
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: want to compliment, I just go out there and work
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: and people come by tell me what a good job
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I'm doing.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: A job job, your garden looks great.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But anyway, last week somebody there was a group of
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: ladies on their walk and they said, they said, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: we were coming up from down the hill and this
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: aroam I came to us because the wind was blowing
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: just straight and it blew the fragrance of that jasmine
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: down to him. So they were they were pleased with them.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And the only, the only bummer, not the only,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: but the big bummer to that is that it all
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: blooms at once, and so you get this massive bloom.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Everything's magical for about a month for about a month, yeah,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: but then the flowers all die and turn brown and
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: then they stay. Yeah. So it looks everybody thinks that
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: your plant has died, when it's just the flowers are
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: dead and you can't you know, a normal plant like
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: like regular star jasmine, would be what we call self cleaning,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: where the flower just falls off and you don't even notice.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: You don't even notice a flower is dead because it
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: just falls off and new flowers take its place. These
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: ones just stay on the planet.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they don't fall off.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: It looks like a looks it looks like a dead
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: tumbleweed is on your fence.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Now it is break time again already?
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Are you cutting them? Sure?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: No, no, look at the double check right here, looking
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: at it. You know why, because when we don't have
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a guest, we're talking about a lot of subjects. Quickly
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: time goes by, people are enthralled by what's happened. We're
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: going to take a break. What's that?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: There's a sign as time goes for the Rolling Stone
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I stiff and watch.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Here's scope. Yeah that was Mary untasteful. Yeah Rolling Stones did.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: It also, but they wrote it forth.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we're going to take a break picking of
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the Rolling Stones Radio.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: This breaks for years back and Facebook life.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
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• 31:24
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• 31:27
  Speaker 2: same studio that we've been in for many many years
• 31:29
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• 31:33
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• 31:45
  Speaker 2: on Tiger's face right now.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: We okay, we have a ton of comments. Okay, good
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: we should voth. Let's get back to me because what
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: are you waiting for.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: What you wanted to mention though quickly because you were
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: talking about the Rolling Stones. Is that you're a lot
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: more successful now collecting moss now that you stopped using though.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's true. You know they're going to go back on
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: tour next year. They're going to change their name the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Strolling Bones.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I always thought you were going to say the grateful death.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Get to those question.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: We do have a question. I don't know if you
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: saw it though. Back about rhododendron, Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That one.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Let's do that one right now. Yeah, okay, the leaves
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: are curling in. Speaking of rhododendron, the leaves on mine
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: started curling in. Not sure what's happening, but I like that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I want to read the replies real quick, John, while
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: you can think of your reply. Carla wrote, they don't
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: like text.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Time, that's why they're curling.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Lisa wrote they're under Redwood tree, so
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: she gave us some more context about it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: So under redwood trees is a good place for them.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love they love that area. Rhododendrons. Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Of the things that make rhododendron leaves or curled that
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I recall, one is extra cold weather, they kind of curl.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: And then sometimes the old leaves do that just before
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the new ones are coming out. So the thing to watch,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I guess, would be whether it's the new leaves that
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: are curling or if it's the old ones. If the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: old ones are curling, I wondn't worry. Make sure that
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: the new ones are coming out right, and they come
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: out right at bloom time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And kind of like what John mentioned earlier in the show,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of the reasons why that will happen is
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: because we will go from warm to cold, warm to cold,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't give that leaf a time, the time
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: to adapt. And so, you know, we had some warm weather,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: the leaves came out, you know, and then we had
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: a cold snap, you know, and then that's where the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: leaves curled. And you know, now, like John mentioned, we're
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: gonna have some warm weather come along, and.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: John calls that shrinkage and and uh and uh, you
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: know it could happen again because it could get cold again.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Because to answer two comments with one answer answer would
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: be Dana's question about if we're if the rain is
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: over and no, because it's April, you know, April, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: we still have May, and we still do get a
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: substantial amount of rain through the spring. It doesn't come
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: like you know, normal, like it'll be just like one
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: rain and then dry for three weeks, and then one
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: rain and then drive for three weeks. But that could
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: bring cold weather with it too sometimes, so we're not
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: out of the we're not out of the clear in
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: terms of no rain and no cold. And when when
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: we say cold too, this is cold to us is
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: kind of like what John said in the what was
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: it sixties? What did you say it got? We were
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: it was really cold and it was and it was sixty.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: People people laugh because when they are back and they're like, oh,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: it was a cold snap, it's the forties or like colder.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: You know, we can it's sharks and t shirt weather
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: back there. Yeah, traditionally where I live, night time, it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in the forties, forty three, forty Yeah, you're probably a
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: little cooler, right, No, he'm in.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: The high fortiesh he's got a specially fifties because he's
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: also situated up high. If he was down in the valley,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: you know areas, I think it would get colder. Yeah, right,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: you know, but you're up high there, you don't get affected.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: But so so yeah, So I think that answered two
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: questions with one answer.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned that a redwood red bud trees are
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: blooming in Minor too. Now I love red buds. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and I like the new ones with the We've talked
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: about it before, but with the different colored leaves. You know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: there's one called Rising Sun, yeah, with shark true sleeves,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: which I really like. And then another one called All
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Festival something like that, but it got multicolored leaves and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: it just looks like ball colors throughout the whole season.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Then let's see, I want to John and Bonnie's wisteria.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna mention there was a picture of
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: John and Newport Beach his whysteria plant that was in
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: full bloom right now, Yeah, and what do you want
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: to read about how he planted that?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: What you were going to do?
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so they they had said, planted the wysteria
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: after a visit to the mission in Santa Barbara in
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: the spring decades ago. Amazing, fragrant and great cover. Great
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: to cover the outdoor patio, cover shade in the summer,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: open in the winter. Flowers are an easter tree and
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: you know, I will say that kind of like comment regarding.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: You know, vines, wisterias are magical, absolutely beautiful growing vines.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: You put them up. You see the pictures all the time.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: You go to a botanical garden where they're just growing
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: over a patio and the flowers they are dangling there beautifully.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: The main reasons I moved to California really, yeah, because
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: in Michigan they're marginally hardy. Yeah, and I planted a
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: tree with stereo, which you never saw a tree whistereus
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: in Michigan at least fifty years ago, and so everybody
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: wanted one.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I planted one of my parents' house and it was.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: It sat there for and grew for probably five years,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: six years. Finally it put out but one spring, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: everyone was excited to see these with stereo blooms. They
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: got to be you know, as they elongated, they were
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: probably about three inches long, and we got a killing freeze.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I just can't take this anymore, I'm believing. Yeah, that's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: one of the reasons.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're just everybody sees him in magazines. You
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: see them all the time. But I will say they
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: require a good amount of meat to make them look
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: and be controlled, because a lot of times they'll plant
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: them over that and then they get very like viny
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: through everything. And you know, but a good, well maintained
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: wisteria is magical, it really is. You can't you can't
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: be what.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: There's the one up in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Is a Laverne or what do you mean in the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: up in that area? Yeah, there's one in somebody's backyard
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: that's famous.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know, it's sure.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's like a hundred year old vine or
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: something like that, and people come from all over to see.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: And you know, the wood, the wood trunk on them
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: is always so cool looking. They remind me of like
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: that's where you would want to put Like the little
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: fairy house is like a whisteria trunk.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know, it is break time already, Tiger. I thought
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: i'd hate you with that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: You don't believe clock.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You can check the clock. So we're going to take
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: a break because those on BIS talk radio who are
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: listening so intently, it's going to be news for them
• 39:14
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• 39:16
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• 39:19
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• 39:21
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• 39:24
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• 39:26
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• 39:29
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• 39:55
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• 39:58
  Speaker 2: our number two Facebook Live. I just about everything so
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: far happened here in the studio, John, even in between
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: setting up the cameras and whatnot. And you're happy to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: get back on track and start things over again.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: John, we come back from a break. Does that mean
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: that the break bro?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: No, but you can remember this. When news breaks, they're
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: gonna say a kiss. It's just a smile. Is just
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a smile? No, when news breaks, we fix it, all right,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: how about that? Okay, back to your questions your comments
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: here on Facebook Live and bistok we.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Have a citrus question from our Huntington Beach reporter.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, then puck her up. Here we go, Carla Tiger.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: She says, what are the brown and black flecks that
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: stick to the skin of citrus fruit? And she said
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: they scrape off easily and it doesn't hurt the fruit,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: but it's just annoying. She said, she's thinking it might
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: be from white flies. What do you think. I wouldn't
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: think white flies. I would think more scale, right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, usually it is scale, you know, that's very such
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: a scale's pretty common, very common. And a lot of
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: people don't even notice it on the trunk. They just
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: don't even know they have that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Because if it's brown scaled the same color as the trunk, it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Looks exactly like the you know, stam in the trunk
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: of the trees. And a lot of people don't even
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: realize they have it, and then they they they you know,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I show them, I just scrape it off. I'm like,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: look at see this is all these are all bugs.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: It's just a hundred present covered and.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: By the time it gets to the fruit, though, you
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: got a problem.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: You have a huge problem. Yeah, And so you know
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: this is where this is where uh we we cross
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: paths with people, because if it is on the fruit,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: like you mentioned, John, you have a problem. This isn't
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: this isn't just like, oh, wash it off with soap
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: and you're good to go. This is it would be
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: good to use this systemic treatment, you know, suffocate it, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: you'd have to be out there you know again every week,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: spraying it, treating it c oils.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: They're pretty effective.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: So pillows don't work.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Brian tried suffocating his with a pillow.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Did not It worked for a while.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so you know, there's a lot of sprays
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: for scale. There's the systemic treatments which are pretty easy
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: to do, and it'll treat that for the scale too.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: But yes, it's scale, and that's if it's on the fruit.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: That means it's pretty extensive through the whole plant. Probably
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: start looking So.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: When you say, people don't even realize they have it
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: before getting onto the fruit and you start scraping, is
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: it because there's so much there it just looks like one.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Color exactly and it just looks like it's like it's
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: part of the Yeah, they're not one or two here
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: or there, it's all over it. You don't even realize.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so I think it's scale and it probably
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: is pretty pretty extensive.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Rick and star Idaho wants eno if we answered a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: question from last week. I think at the end of
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: the show last week, he asked if plants know the
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: difference between chemical fertilizers and organic fertilizer At the micro level.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Sorry, what Well, I was reading this, I looked up
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: and you were looking straight at me.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, this isn't a chemical fertilizer
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: one that would go right directly onto the plant itself,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and an organic fertilizer would go into the soil so
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: it would seek out as opposed to being drenched with it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, I don't know if that has anything.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: To do with this question he was asking.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, at the micro level, I think he
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: wants to know when they go to You know, plants
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: feed on nutrients right right, So when it comes down
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: to it, do they know the difference between chemical and
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: organic organic and a plant fruit cannot take up an
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: organic molecule. It can only take up like nitrate. Nitrates
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: would be the form of nitrogen they would take up.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: But what happens is that with with organic foods, they
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: need to be worked one by the soil micro organisms
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: who will change them to a form that the plant
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: can take up. With the chemical fertilizer, it doesn't need
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: to be changed.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: It just straight into the.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Plant, whether it's through the foldage or through the roof.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Right and on the way, it kills the oil bacteria the.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, the good ones good.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Back to ask if a plant knows the difference, No,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: but it does make a difference, right, you know what
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, because like you're saying, the way the plant
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: just knows it is like the nitrate, whether it's the
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: chemical or the organic, because it's already what it is,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: but you know what the way it's absorbed and how
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: it's taken up by the planet, it makes a huge difference.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: It would be like if you were in a spaceship.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, well here we go.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do this, and and you were breathing in
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: the oxygen in the spaceship, would your body know the
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: difference between whether that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Was great example, whether that was air that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Was coming from inside the spaceship.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Or just natural or just natural air.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: If you were down on Earth, it would not until
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: exactly until you stop producing oxygen and then the then
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: your body would know the difference.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So we're talking about the way that it's how it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: absorbed in right. If the plant is aware.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your body would still be absorbing the oxygen whether
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: you're on Earth.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: In a space here's a bad analogy that John's gonna go.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: That's just silly, Okay, but let me ask you this,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: would it be like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Well, they say silly instead of stupid.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Let's see, let's find out. How about you're getting treated, right,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: and you're given an injection of something, okay, Okay, you're
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: also given the same thing to drink.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Does your body know that it was injected or you
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: drank it? Because it's going to as absorb it the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: same way when it's an injection.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Why you get treatments and what is injection because if
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: your body drinks it, it goes through a filtration process
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: where some of that stuff would not even be as.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Opposed to directly getting an.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Injection to the bloodstreak, right, it doesn't get filtered out.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: It goes straight into your blood.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Is it? No?
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I was just getting it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Wasn't I wasn't really questioning. It was more like an analogy.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I should have said an analogy, not a question.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, But it's very different because the the organic
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: versus chemical fertilizers that they are nitrogen, phosphorus or potash.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the plants just know
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: them as that. But you know, whether it's organic or
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: whether it's chemical, it's also going to effect on you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: how how it affects the plant later on, how it
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: affects the soil later on, and in other things you
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: know that we've talked about.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: So is we talk about chemical directly onto a plant,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: no thinking involved, it just it just has Yeah. So
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: how is that analogy like when we apply certain products
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: that are a miracle and and it it just goes directly,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: goes directly onto that. But it's an abnormal growth, right,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: It's a little too quick for the plant, and that
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: that's why you have thin cell walls, because.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: You're passing the root system and going directly. Take Yeah,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I like you guys were just talking about. It would
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: be a difference whether you took a shop orally yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: or you got a shot.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah if you if you eat well, it passes to
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: your body filters and it distributes it naturally through your body,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: or you can just get it straightly injected into you.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: It doesn't pass through your brodt well or anything. But
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: you get that quick little whoa yeah exactly.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it could be a sugar fix which might
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: taste good.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, speaking of that, what was it
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago that you gave us the box of
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Sease candy Oh yeah, it was a whole box of
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: treat so I do one to day. It's supposed to
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: be vitamins. You do that. But the point is there's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: a certain amount of discipline that's going into this because
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: when you open that up, one's never.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Enough, right, you limit yourself to one.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: And yes, I didn't have any yesterday, but we're making
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: our way through them, is it?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Well, what happens is when you're done with the box,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: then what do you do?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I smell it. I keep it around out.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: You might go, you might need to go get another one.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I put it on the counter and just absorb all
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: the nice smells. Okay, next question.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Conny Rick pointed out that the Wsterio was talking about
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: was in Sierra Madre.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Good note.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Oh there was a movie right there was Sterey of Sierra.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: You don't need those stink on Badger John.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: By the way, Tiger City agreed with everything you said
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: about the withsteria. He said that takes some work, but
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: it's magical and worth it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I was thinking? My favorite.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Done well anyway, bone size is probably a with stereo tree.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen those? I've never seen one that
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: looks you.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Know, they're little, a little tiny bone sye pot with
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: this miniaturized with stereo tree in bloom talk about magical.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are phenomenal. Hey, we are take so much
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: patience and energy to do.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if any of our listeners want to see that,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: if you just google with sterea bone sie, I think
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: you'd be shocked. I've I had the good fortune to
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: see a couple in full bloom in bone size shows.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: They were amazing.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take a break, recharge during this
• 49:49
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• 49:53
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• 49:55
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• 50:57
  Speaker 2: We're lad you could join us. We do this every
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: week here every Saturday. John Case, you're wondering.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, Jan in Brentwood, California, mentioned how great her roses
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: were looking, you know, everything coming out in bud and bloom,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: and I wanted to mention to our listeners that Jan
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: has one, probably maybe even the country, but for sure
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: in California, one of the best rose collections in the
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: entire state. Bro I would have to I'd go so
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: far as to say the entire country approaching, if not
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: over now two thousand different varieties of ros.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: How big is the property?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I know she used to be horse property. Okay, well,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: there you go, and I think that's part of the
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: reason why her roses do so well.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Because of all that fertilizers.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of them are as I recall her
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: she has planted in old horse corrals.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there you go.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can answer this one quickly. But Bronica was
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: asking John, does that westeria tree require as much work
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: as the vine? Just asking for a friend, John, And
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: John can answer this because he just.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking for a friend. So it depends.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I guess, you know in cold climates where you uh yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: they're just marginally hardy, they're not going to grow as fast,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: so I don't I'm trying to think, have you ever
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: seen one in California with stereo trees?
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Besides that your house?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Do I have one?
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: I thought you had one? No, Boban Beatree's what I'm
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: thinking of. Sorry, no I have not.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I seem to recall seeing and maybe some of our
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: listeners are seen with stereotrees here in California.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: We used to sell them up at our nursery in Alpine.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that, so you do.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: They do need heavy pruning every year, as I recall,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: to keep them h just going crazy right. Otherwise it's
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: a vine on a step.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there they are tough to get going. But
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: once I imagine once you get it five years down
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: the road.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Like a bone side, you know, needs to be trained.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: This isn't as dramatic, but the same thing, just some
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: pruning probably after it blooms every year. Cut it back.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: People commenting on the cameras. Some like the cameras. Carolyn
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and and about it. Carolyn likes it when it shows
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: all three of us, but Tanya likes the close ups too.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Kevin's comment on super Thrive, Now, we we haven't hit
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: this in a long time because it just hasn't come up,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: but products like super Thrive and then what was it,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: B one B B one Yeah, the.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Super threat I've originally was concentrated B one, Yeah, which
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: does virtually nothing for the point except smell. But I
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: think as people became smarter and realized this is no good,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: they they added micronutrients to the formula. So now it
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: works as far as adding the micronutrients.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did he have a question on that, No, he
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: just what what did we think of it? And and
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: so kind of like back kind of like what you
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: said is that it's a good product in the sense
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: that its micro nutrients kind of like not. We definitely
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: like HB one on one much better, you know in
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: terms of like an anti shocks. You know that all
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: of that kind of goes with HB one on one
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: and it's supposed to kind of be similar to super
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: thrive in that way. But then people like you say,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: will say, oh, just go by B one and you
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: know B one they used it as a root stimulator,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: the rus it used as anti shock. It's it's not
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: it's not effective in that ada. You don't find it
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: as much on the market. So to answer your question,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not it's not a terrible product, but.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: B one does nothing. But if it has micronutrients, yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the micro nutrients.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there was another one I wanted to.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Where do it go?
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Red bed trees, boomy, A lot of question. It's tough
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: for us to keep up on all this stuff.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I see a few people.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Questioning or making comments about lavenders, actually lavenders and rosemaries.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: But I had a and I don't know if they
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: were hard to get for a while, but I just
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: found one last week at home depot and ended up
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: buying a I forget what they call it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: They changed the.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Name because the original name of this lavender was so bad.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody would remember it. But do you
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: guys sell mirror low We're low no wine.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: No mirror low. No. The name was m W R
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: l O mir Right.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: It's the variegated lavender. Okay that never flowers? Oh why,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: but I don't know. Yeah, but the leaves are so fragrant,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I think the most fragrant of any lat.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, you buy it for the fragrance of the leaves.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Variegations really really pretty. Yeah, if you look at look
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: it up, I know home Depot would change the name.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Whoever's growing it for him said, let's market it under
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: this name. Yeah, but if you look it up on
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: the internet, I think you'll see how it try active
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: it is. But anyway, I had one in my old
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: house and Pepper Tree and Fallbrook, and since I moved,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I've been looking for it and haven't found it, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden there's a hundreds of them
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: at home depot.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I do like the hybrid lavender is much better than
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: some of the originals because you know, they it seems
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: like they grow a little, they're a little easier. You know.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: One of the problems with lavender's is you know, they'll
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: die out, you know.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Or they just get too big.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just get too big. You can't you
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: can't rune them, you know. You know, it's not like
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: a Mexican sage where you just cut it back and
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: then it regrows.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: There's very few plants and lavenders one of them where
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: you printed in its exactly if you print it wrong
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: every wrong time of year.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: So I really do like the newer varieties. And when
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: customers ask me for lavenders and they you know, they
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: want the Goodwin Creek, they want the you know, French lavender,
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: English lavendar, I go, that's that's this because like we
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: like just said, like they end up getting too big.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: You can't prune them. They end up dying out early,
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: and so I do like what they've done with the
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: new laven.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Diane mentioned she lost some of her really old lavenders
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: this year. There's some I've noticed that some of the
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: bigger ones that get woody are the Spanish lavender's, French lavenders,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: some of the warm weather lavenders. But some of the
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: English lavenders that I saw in Germany were I thought spectacular.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: They were, they were more graceful, but they don't do
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: as well in warm climate.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the thing too, is people want to
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: People say, oh, I want to grow like a lavender field.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And mhm, well you must go through that a lot,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: not really the spot for it, setting up landscaping, and
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: people want this, they want that, and you're like, what
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a maintenance. Yeah, it's not going to do well here.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Or they talk you into it and then they come
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: back and say, hey, it died. Yeah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: The biggest thing for us in San Diego's Boga Villa.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Everybody wants Boga Villa.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Hilly Billy have it. We're gonna take a break on
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that note. Two more segments coming up. Got a long
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: segment coming up and a shorter one to hand. The
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: show is to do stay with us obviously here on
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Garden America BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live. We are coming back.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: It is Garden America because we're going to continue to
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: grow into the show is. Yes, indeed, we are back
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: this segment and one more, John. This is the long
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: the longer segment. So whatever you need to do, do
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: it now. A lot of question.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Time wise, not length toys right.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Time wise, we have but ten minutes and twenty seven
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: seconds with this second.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Lenar is not gonna forget this question for you, Tiger. Okay,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: she wants to know where her discount is unfertile. Oh
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: my goodness, she said you were going to check into that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's already well I found out that it was
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: already discounted. Basically, the price is the price that you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: see is a discounted price.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: It's such a good price they'd have to give it
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: away for one any lower Yeah, yeah they did.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: It's it's a discount of what you see is the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Garden America discounted for the loan price.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: So do you want to give out your home phone
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: numbers so Leonark can call you direct.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: But really we do we do encourage you to support Fertilan.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: That's why we're on the air. Yeah, basically yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean you know that I will say
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: kind of like to what Brian's saying, the discount price,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: that not that we are avoiding. Okay, we want you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: to support furlough because you know they do support us,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: and so to discount it would be a challenge.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: But I will say, just on it's like a coupon,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe like a fifty could she at.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Least have a how about how about an afterl but.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Percent off if she drives step from Canyon Country down
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: to your nursery.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I'll give her a bottle of something then for sure. Okay,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: But but the nice thing about furlough products is that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: they have a very low price on their products already
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: because they they they bypass a lot of things that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: other companies don't do in the.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Middle and they do the manufacturing and marketing all of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: that exactly.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: That you know, I found this Like, just to give
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: you an example, their product, the slug and snail bait,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: there's a company Monterey that puts it under the same
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: the same product. They put it under the name slug.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: When you go to buy slugo, you know, let's say
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: it's twelve dollars on the shelf. The same product from
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: Fertilom is you know, nine dollars, and it's because you know,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Monterey has marketing and have other people to pay for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: the product and everything else.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people in between before it gets
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: on the shelf.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Fertilom, you know, to avoid all that,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: you know, they do their own packaging, marketing and manufacturing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: that they can already sell it for cheaper. And there's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: the other product out there from we we've talked about
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: it a long a lot of times too. From was
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: it Boneite? Who did the Captain Jacks? Who was it Bonite?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know because I Captain Jack's was after my retail.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, so you know another kind of a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: similar product, you know, Captain Jack's spinosid. You know, all
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: those kind of spinosid based products came out, and again
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Fertilome has the same product and sometimes they're even better.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: They have the insects and sidal soap one and they're
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: much cheaper than than the ones that you find.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: So there's your discount. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Build The bottom line is if she'll make a trip
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: with her truck down to see tiger. He'll give her
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: a one time discount.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: He said, a bottle of something. Yeah, I can't give
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you a bottle of.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Some bottle of My favorite product from there is there's
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Spinoza soap, you know, chewing insects, sucking insects. It's a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: great you it's a great product to have in your
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: arsenal when you have a garden. Absolutely, Spinosa soap is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: probably like my favorite product from them.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: All right, John, what do we got? Okay?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Kevin says that uh, Kevin and Quartelaine, Quartalaine, Kevin Quarterlaine,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Kevin Purdline. Kevin says that a horsemaner doesn't stink. So
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: how nutrient rich is it versus palmnure?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if you're talking about meth he's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: talking about methane.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think he is, you know, I think I
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: was talking about the manure itself.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: But cal Manere has got a lot of methane. Don't
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: give me the eye. Don't give me the eyes. You
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: know what. Whenever he's throwing off, I get the eye.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: What about chicken manure? Well, there you go. There's no methane.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: But it's stinks. There stinks for different reasons like people.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: People can Still, the.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Point I was going to bring up Brian that I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: think he might be referring to is if the worse
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: it smells, the better it is, which is not true
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: right now. So odor has nothing to do with the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: fact that I'm just.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: You know what, let's let's get by this, because that's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: not what I was referring to. I was talking about
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: methane and cal manure versus other manure.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get an orange show you.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not putting the bad mouth on what you said
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: at all. I think you took that person and I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: didn't mean it, and if you did, I apologize.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it later, all right, and then I'll
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: take it in my room. Okay.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: But that's because there's a point to all this, right.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, The point is that the smell has nothing
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: to do with the effectiveness. And and it is much
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: much better fertilizer horse man because it has alfalfa in it,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: which is contains a rooting hormone, and that's not as
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: much in cowmonar.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: And if you think about the manures, whether it be
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: chicken or horse or cow or worm, castings or anything
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: else you sell. I'm sure you do. Well, this was,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: but think about what they think about what they eat,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: because that's that's exactly the product, right, that's what goes
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: in comes out exactly. And you know, like John mentioned,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: horses eat more alfalfa and they have less stomachs, so
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: the end product is and so the end product is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: actually a better manure product as.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Opposed to what are you right?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Well, no, but that's not terrible because they eat is
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: one of the best all kinds of bugs and good stuff.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: But you have to make sure it's composts, chicken or
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: can bn super Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: You know where a whore or a cow number one,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: A lot of places where they get the manure from
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: is going to be just forced fed cow. So it's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: not always like the best product that they're eating.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Does the manure always come from the same story, you.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Know, I'm talking about the cow eating.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, you got to explain yourself. I get it,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I know, you know.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: And then they have multiple stomachs and then at the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: end of the day their product is not as valuable.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: So then a cow, instead of like we'll say I'm full, right,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: a cow would say.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: We're full because they have multiple stomachs. We're full because
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: you're referring to just your one stomach when you say
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: you're my stomach.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: I can't stummach stomachs.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense because cows can't talk, you know.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you about cows. There was a bunch
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: of cows in the distance one time we were driving
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: and they were standing up like us, and then a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: cow yeah, and a cow looked over and said car
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: and they all went back down to grazing on all fours.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: And the point is, do you get it?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: It affects them manure.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I like the Chick fil a cow posts or build
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: boards the best, eat chicken, Eat more chicken, more chicken. Okay,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: so are we done with the potty talk?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Is there anything else we want to talk? Podcast?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: I felt I've kind of felt bad. You remember cow
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: pots you remember?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: You remember that company? They were just on Shark Tank.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, a new or an old one.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: I feel it was new. I feel like it was
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: newish really just saw it. And so, you know, not
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: super great success I think for for them, But I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: mean it's a you know, mom and pop shop, and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: it's a great product. And the biggest thing that I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: thought was really cool was that.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Now these are just the regular pots that were made
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: out of calmonur right, Yes, because there was an Amish
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: company that had pots made out of manure that were
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: in shapes like you might have a bunny.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: And so it's a bunny maneuver pot.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: It's a bunny manure pot.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing, ye forgive. But these were just pots
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: made out of Kalman right that you would use to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: plant your seedlings and then you could just plant the pot.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: But the cool thing about it is the reason why
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: they were on Shark Tank and trying to expand their
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: line is there, like you know, there's only so many Pozzi,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: but they went into more other forms of packaging, you know,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: so like those cardboard forms that they used in like
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: electronic packaging or wine bottles or whatever it is. They
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: wanted to expand into that market to be able to
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: kind of expand the company.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Wine bottles, no.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Not wine bottle, the packaging like they'll put wine in
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: a box and in order to not have them move around,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: they'll put one of those cardboard forms.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: And a case of wine.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, just because they just make those out of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: like the paper pulp right now, so they can easily
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: make that out of the commander.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: And then you could uh throw gardens.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they were saying that anybody in I I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: was couldn't watch it, but they were thinking about it.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't there. There was one what's his name,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: mister wonderful, he was in he was in uh negotiations, yes, yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: but no he did he did wine, he likes wine.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: He did invest, but it wasn't a great It wasn't
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: a great thing. Like not all of them wanted to invest.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: He didn't give him what he wanted. Probably, Okay, we're
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: gonna take a break on that. Now, one more segment,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: a short stick.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about Lama when we come back.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: All right, Dad, and any other manure we can we
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: can get into that too. Very yeah, very yet interesting
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: tom back after these messages on bistok relight the last
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: segment you in the rind of a farm, You're.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: In comments come in order. Sometimes I feel like I'm
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: right while reading comics, right, yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: You know, right at the break, I mentioned Lama maneuver
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: that was popular for a while.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Is Lama when what about alpaca.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Well along those lines, Brian, right, be kind of the same.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Because jud they're commenting here, I highly recommend Sea Coast Compost.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: New product in California from Oregon uses fishwak. That's where
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of the ocean forests gets their benefits from
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: its fish. Way, what about that? What about what about fishman?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What about it?
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds fishy to me, Brian the I'm trying to fight
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  Speaker 3: the questions again. I yeah, just lost myself here for
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  Speaker 3: a second, but I'm back. Let's see, we're done with manures, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we mentioned the speaking of manures. Now I think we're
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  Speaker 3: apparently no, no, I remember, I think I've mentioned this before.
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  Speaker 3: But when I was working in the garden center in Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: there was a product called dry canore, which was turkey
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  Speaker 3: minir and.
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  Speaker 2: Were gobbling it up, weren't they.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll tell you. It smelt so bad even
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  Speaker 3: in the in the bag. Nobody wanted to stack that,
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  Speaker 3: but it was It worked really well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's linorious that the question can you grow
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  Speaker 3: clematists from seed?
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  Speaker 4: The answer is yes, most things from seed.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing is, since it's all Clematists, or virtually
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  Speaker 3: all clemitists that are sold are hybrids. What you get
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  Speaker 3: from seed will not be the same, may not be
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  Speaker 3: the same as what you're playing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why if you look at that clementine seed packages,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times they'll be like mattis whatever, and
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  Speaker 4: on the package they'll show different flower colors.
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  Speaker 2: Oh do they have seed packages? I've never seen that
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  Speaker 2: different ones because you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know what you're know what you're gonna get.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Well I learned something new today.
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  Speaker 2: I can leave Brian.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Or like they'll do that with morning glory sometimes too,
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  Speaker 4: where they'll have like the morning glory, but it'll have
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  Speaker 4: like different color the flowers.
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  Speaker 3: Those are just mixed seeds though, but be mixed back.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean even then, like sometimes you don't know
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  Speaker 4: what you're gonna get, you know what I mean? No,
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  Speaker 4: the mixed package.
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  Speaker 3: But right, yeah, well because morning glories you can buy
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  Speaker 3: by variety.
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  Speaker 4: Right. But what I was getting at is sometimes they'll
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  Speaker 4: just put him into a grouping. And that's what they
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  Speaker 4: do with clematis, is they won't put them all as one.
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  Speaker 4: They put him into a grouping and just don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: You I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I followed you from John still reading. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of chatter that went all of it, and then even
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  Speaker 4: I think they commented on someone commented on a horse maneuver.
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  Speaker 4: It needs to be broken down and composted. That is
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  Speaker 4: the thing. You know. You know a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that live in uh rural areas will be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's a farm and I'll go pick up manure,
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  Speaker 4: whether it is cow or sheep or horse or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But it needs to be compost because if you put
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  Speaker 4: direct any direct maneuver into the garden, well it's it's
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  Speaker 4: it's not fully composted yet. So it's what we call hot.
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  Speaker 4: It burns plants and it needs to be composted before
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  Speaker 4: you incorporated into your bed. Just be careful with that.
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  Speaker 4: And then.
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  Speaker 3: If Veronica wants to know tiger, what is furtalone fungicide five?
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh?
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  Speaker 3: She said that it was showing up on the screen,
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  Speaker 3: but it has a sticker on her screen and she
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  Speaker 3: can't see what it says.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's there, it's there. Fungicide that they have, it's
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  Speaker 4: called fungicide five, and you would use it as for
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  Speaker 4: russ or pottery mildew or black spot for you know,
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact fibas, rust, powdery, mild black spot,
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  Speaker 4: and then there were two other specific fungal issues that
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  Speaker 4: it's really really good for. I I think it took
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  Speaker 4: the place of do you remember serenade? Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: it took the place of serenade because you can no
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  Speaker 4: longer get sarena. But it was a funge aside, and
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  Speaker 4: it's a topical spray.
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  Speaker 3: So you know when you serenade was a bacteria, right so,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that that that's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was pretty effective.
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  Speaker 4: It was. I don't know what happened to the serenade product,
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  Speaker 4: right so, but it's a product he did. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a product. It's it's in the top corner. It's a
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  Speaker 4: little a little corner corner bug is what we call it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Brick remembers back in the day Doctor Earth used
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  Speaker 3: to be on the show once in a while, doctor Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and once to know if he's still in business. I
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  Speaker 3: think did he sell out? Actor sold out?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Milo?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if he's sold out,
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  Speaker 4: like meaning like if he's not involved anymore, but he
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  Speaker 4: did he did sell.
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  Speaker 2: Out of like going to hit the box stores, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, Bacilli's ammy. Look bessians straight right there. That's easy
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  Speaker 4: for you to say, yeah, exactly, Wow, yeah, look at
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  Speaker 4: that side five, John, let's see emmy lolique fashions. There
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  Speaker 4: you go, Hun, you said five, yeah, five, as much
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  Speaker 4: as you're just saying, that's why they came that's why
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  Speaker 4: they came up with that name, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating when you can find bacteria that
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  Speaker 3: perform functions like that. You know, like there's back Curia
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  Speaker 3: bt kills uh caterpillars. And then another one of our sponsors,
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  Speaker 3: Bacillis is rarely asus kills mosquito. Yeah, we gotta go,
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  Speaker 3: that's what running out.
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  Speaker 4: Of time that way, Yeah, quench A Side five can
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  Speaker 4: also be a soil drench for fungal root root fungal issues.
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  Speaker 2: There you're going to leave you on that note. That's
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  Speaker 2: a good note to be left on. All right, Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for tuning in, Have have your stuff, a great
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  Speaker 2: rest of your weekend, a good week, and be safe.
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  Speaker 2: We're back here next week, right yep, we think.
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  Speaker 4: Uh what do I say? Ridculus ulusulus?
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  Speaker 2: All right, there you go, so again, enjoy yourself have
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  Speaker 2: a good rest of your weekend, a good week of
• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:34
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