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The Wayne Allyn Root Show Hour 1 Featuring Lee Elci 03 06 24 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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This is a Radio PA news update. Pittsburgh police are releasing security video of
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the suspect in a rate reported near the Pit campus this past weekend. The
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attack happened early Sunday morning in an alley on campus. Investigators described the man
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detectives, they're asking anyone with info to give them a call. The number
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of Pennsylvania children without insurance has been steadily climbing over the past few years.
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John Schaefer has the numbers. A report by the Pennsylvania Partnerships for Children says
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about one hundred forty five thousand kids across the Commonwealth are currently without health insurance.
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etcetera, etcetera. So that's what we got for the first couple hours.
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Here on the USA Audio Network, and again, as always, you can
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email me le elsradio at gmail dot com, like the Facebook page, subscribe
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to my YouTube. I'm actually filming myself right now with a psychedelic background,
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so it's kind of freaky here in the studio. I wanted to talk about.
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There's so many things to talk about, obviously, a million different things.
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And the House passes a four hundred and sixty billion dollar government funding bill,
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overwhelmingly passes at three thirty nine to eighty five in the House, and
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all the Democrats are celebrating, which tells me that this is a horrible bill.
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And actually Connecticut's Congresswoman Rosa Deloro, who's like three hundred years old but
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with the purple hair, she was waxing poetic about how the Republicans were defeated
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in this because they weren't able to get the conservative ideals through. And there's
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more spending and more spending, and more spending and more spending. My question
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to all of you to America tonight, when do you think this spending will
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stop? When do you think this madness will actually end? You know,
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we can talk about politics, we can talk about war, we could talk
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about immigration, We could talk about anything and everything, but we need to
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start talking about spending. We need to start talking about debt. I feel
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like I'm that lone wolf in the wilderness, yelling and screaming. I'm in
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screaming about the national debt, even before Obama became president, even before it
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actually became a dagger in the heart of America. Thirty three trillion dollars,
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thirty three trillion debt of service every year is over a trillion dollars. And
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the folks in Washington are all smiles tonight because they passed a bill with more
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spending. When will the spending stop? And Rep. Chip Roy had an
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interesting thing to say about this, and I grabbed this because it's echoes something
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that I've I've talked about and was very very important to me for a while.
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And I'll explain after. But here's chip Roy talking about why he votes
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no on bills like this. I voted no because we don't have any money.
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I voted no because we're lying to the American people, both sides of
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the isle. But with all due respect, particularly my colleagues on the other
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side of the isle who just blame it on tax policy and then ignore spending
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like drunken sailors and on our watch. The footnote in history for my tenure
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in the House of Representatives is going to be that I destroyed the country.
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I mean, I'm proud that I've voted no for most of this garbage.
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But for this moment in time, every member of this body, your legacy,
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your tombstone, is gonna be that you destroyed the United States of America,
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the greatest country in the history of the world. That's gonna be the
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legacy of this House of Representatives, of the next House of Representatives, of
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last Congress's House of Representatives, because we utterly refuse to responsibly do our job,
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so they're in itself. Is something I talk about a lot, which
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is the responsibility of being the last generation to enjoy this kind of freedom.
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And I say this often. I say it mostly towards the folks out there
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who are part of the electorate, not necessarily the politicians. I always feel
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like the politicians don't give a damn if you know they are the black mark
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on history. I give a damn if my generation is the black mark on
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history. I don't want to be part of something that five hundred years from
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now three hundred years from now, one hundred years from now, they look
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back at history and point to this time in the history of this country and
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say, those are the people that we're so self absorbed, so greedy,
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such narcissists that they toppled the greatest country that this planet has ever known.
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I don't want to be part of that. But we're heading like a bullet
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train speeding out of site. Man to that inevitability. You can't continue to
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spend like this. You cannot continue to do this. We don't have the
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resources. We don't have the resources to bring in tens and tens of thousands
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of illegal immigrants every day, millions over the course of three years. We
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don't have the mechanism to house them, to feed them. There was an
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amazing audio clip that I cut, but I don't have it right here at
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my fingertips, But it was just a citizen in Colorado, Colorado took in
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forty thousand illegal immigrants, I think in the last calendar year, and she
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basically spelled out, on the very cheapest side, what it would cost to
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house and feed these forty thousand people. Somebody's got to do it, and
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just that alone crippled their their budget for everything else, just dealing with these
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folks who are coming across our border every day. So that in itself is
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crippling. But the fact that nobody wants to be a responsible adult, nobody
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wants to say, hey, wait a second, we have to stop,
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because it's it's the treasure that we spend. It's the goodies that we give
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the American people. We it's the goodies that the politicians promise the American people
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that make them go into the voting booth and vote for them. Right,
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Nobody wants to vote for somebody who says to you, well, you're're not
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getting that. I know, we're not going to give you that. No,
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that program's got to go. No, we've got to cut that.
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No, we've got to slice and dice that. No, we've got to
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manage this. No we can't build that. Nobody wants to vote for that
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person. Somebody wants to vote for the person. Oh no, I'll get
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you that new wing of the new gymnasium, of the new athletic field,
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or this new or sure that new program. It doesn't matter what a cost
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will get. It's for the good of humanity. But in the end,
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you can't sustain it, but people will vote for that person who makes the
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promises because well, it's in their self interest. And you know, over
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the course of this country, the dynamic I think of, you know,
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how people react and treat each other has changed significantly, and how people actually
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view themselves has changed significantly. And I think a lot of that, and
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we have this discussion often on my morning show. Is an absence of you
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don't call a god or a higher power. See, people now think that
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they are the center of the universe. Everything revolves around them instead of the
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collective or the greater good of everyone, or in the cases I think of
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generations past, the country for the very least. I mean, you know,
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God and country. We don't think like that anymore. We think about,
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you know, what what can I do to satisfy whatever thirst I have
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today? And the hell with every now? Everything else be damned. And
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you know, I don't have any kids, and I think I'm going to
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survive until you know, my my heart takes its last beat, and hopefully
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it's a long, long day, you know, a long long way down
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the road. I don't think the imminent demise of America is right around the
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corner. I do think if we continue on this trajectory, it's it's imminent.
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It's not imminent. It's it's an absolution an absolute problem. It's an
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equation. It's an absolute equation that's going to happen to us. I was
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searching for the right word. I'm not sure if I found it. But
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my point is I don't necessarily think tomorrow is the last day of America.
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But I do think your kids, and certainly your kids kids will grow up
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in an absolutely different, different society. But I don't want to be looked
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at back to the original thought as the group that was the initiator in the
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crumbling of America. And I guess maybe I am wrong. Maybe I could
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be part of this devastation. Maybe it does topple, Maybe you know,
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the stock market does crash, maybe the end takes over the dollar within the
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next ten years, and maybe, yes, maybe, just maybe I am
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part and you're part, and we're all part of the demise of the United
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States of America. Maybe it's possible. All right, listen, we'll take
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You know, I was perusing through some audio clips as I do almost every
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single day, and I ran into one I thought was rather interesting. Allow
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me to share it with you with our pal Gavin Newsome praising Nikki Haley sitting
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in with the one and only Jake Tapper on that mega power known as the
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End. Do you think that Haley or Trump would be easier to beat Hill?
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First of all, I think she's one of our better surrogates, so
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she stays in. I hope she does well tomorrow. Says about Trump.
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She's spot on on ninety nine percent of it. So I'm enjoying. I'm
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enjoying this primary, and I hope it continue. But look, Trump's the
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nominee. We all know that. You know that. Everybody out there knows
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that, and I think the polls are suggestive She's going to get well up
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tomorrow and then she'll make a case I guess just to continue in this.
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But again, I have no problem for as long as she wishes, because
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I think she's making a good case against Trump. I had the head poles
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suggest that she would clean Biden's clock, and it's a tougher race. Trum,
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Trump's the nominee. Everybody knows Trump's nominee with respect. There's no evidence
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to suggest, there's no polling to suggest there's nothing to suggest momentum otherwise that
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she can win any state in the Republican primary coming up. So it's just
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not Donald Trump is the nominee. No, I don't mean that to be
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dismissive. I have respect for the former governor a lot more than the former
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president Donald Trump. But as I said, I wish her luck in the
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context of being out there and making the case that we're making against Donald Trump
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equally. But the most important sentence that the governor of California says that NICKI
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Haley is their best surrogate, working, if you will, for and with
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the Democrat Party to topple Donald J. Trump. So interesting piece of audio,
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and I thought was something you should hear. I don't know if you'd
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heard that, but I figured i'd play that for you, sort of a
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maybe roddy and slip up sorts. And then he caught himself. He's so
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slick, you know. It's funny. If California wasn't such a dumpster fire,
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and if he hadn't run that state straight into the crapper, he would
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be dangerous, and he is still dangerous. Got the good looks, stresses,
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fancy, looks, sharp as attack and he's well spoken, very articulate,
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all of it. But man, he has just absolutely dismantled California from
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every single metric you can measure, whatever it is, whether it's you know,
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cost of living, value, taxes, whatever it is. However you
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want to measure success in a state, California is bottoming out and he's in
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charge, so he's responsible. But Gavin Knwsom looks like a politician. He
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looks like what somebody might think a president would look like. He's got all,
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as we would like to say, bells and whistles of being in that
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a while on CNN he pops up. His name is Jamille Jaffer, and
36:31
he's the founder and executive director of the National Security Institute, and we really
36:37
appreciate him carving out some time for us today. And I wanted to throw
36:39
a couple things at you. You're sort of on cutting edge and a lot
36:42
of this stuff, and I wanted to start with immigration. I don't know
36:45
how frustrated you are. I'm in screaming about this for the better part of
36:47
three years, the flood coming across the southern border, and now this one
36:52
eighty flip from the Democrats as far as they want to get something done.
36:55
I just wanted to get your thirty thousand foot view take of that. Yeah,
36:58
I mean, look, obviously, the border is a huge issue.
37:01
Our problems with the border are massive We've got this group of immigrants coming up
37:07
from Central and South America. They're coming to this country seeking asylum or claiming
37:10
to speak asylum. They're not being held back at the border that are being
37:14
led into this country, and it's a real problem. I mean, we
37:15
cannot survive with the flow of fentanyl and the flow of migrants across the border.
37:22
Look, we're a country built on immigration. It's important that we have
37:24
good legal immigration, but we also can't allow illegal immigration to overwhelm the country.
37:30
And so to ensure that we pretend against that, we've got to have
37:32
border security, which means we've got to prevent these There are terrorists that are
37:37
coming across the border, especially to st aliums as well, and so it's
37:39
important that we secure that border, and then we figure out what's the right
37:43
immigration policy. How many legal immigrants do we want to have, how do
37:45
we need to make our agriculture economy worth to make the rest of our economy
37:50
worth and then get that right. And the truth is we're not quite there
37:52
yet. So we've got to figure out that right full of immigration. But
37:55
the first step is stopping the current flow at the border. So you know,
37:58
there are some estimate accounts that we could be over ten million since twenty
38:01
twenty. Would you say that's accurate or too high? Too low? Where
38:06
are you on that? You know, the numbers have been so all over
38:07
the map, it's hard to get a real good sense of what the exact
38:10
right number is. But what I will say this is there's no question that
38:15
the flow of illegal immigration's country is much too high and it's not sustainable,
38:19
and so we've got to stem that flow. And look, this has become
38:22
a national security issue because it's not just migrants, it's also terrorists and criminals
38:27
come across that border. And the flow of fentandel across that border is literally
38:30
killing tens of thousands of Americans. That's a huge problem. That's all coming
38:35
from China. So does the president actually have the authority? I know he
38:37
rescinded a lot of Trump's orders basically first day, he sort of rewrote some
38:43
of those and did his own executive orders. But does he have the power
38:46
with his pen and his phone to stop this without any additional legislation. Look,
38:52
I think there's a lot the president could do that's not being done.
38:53
We can go back to the remain in Mexico policy. There's a lot more
38:57
we can do. We can transfer some amount of funds. There's a limited
39:00
thority the president has to do that, transfer some amount of funds to border
39:02
security. At the end of the day, he will need at least money
39:07
from Congress. I don't Nelessari know he needs authority, but he's money from
39:10
Congress to put more, more, more border patrol agents on that border and
39:15
stop the flow. But there is a lot more that this White House could
39:17
be doing that it undid from the prior administration. It could be doing to
39:22
stem the flow. Yeah, Trump brought one on this, I think partially
39:24
in twenty sixteen, But is this a real legit talking point for him in
39:30
twenty twenty four Look, I think it is. I think the reality is
39:34
that the Biden administration has not an affective job stemming the flow at the border.
39:37
And as a result, President Trump has gotten good is going to and
39:42
has already gotten a lot of miles out of it. And what you'll see
39:44
is you already saw it just yesterday, both for both the president, the
39:47
current president and the former president going to the border, making statements and calling
39:52
on one another to do something about it. Right, Well, President Eden,
39:55
though, has the authority to actually do something which he's not doing,
39:59
and that end of the day is going to be what I think President Trump
40:01
or President Trump is going to hang around his neck. Over the next few
40:05
weeks and months, we head towards the presidential election in November, assuming,
40:08
by the way, that both these you know, eighty seventy year old,
40:12
late seventies year old men are in fact our candidates going forward in November.
40:15
As it looks like it's going to be, well, let's get to that,
40:16
because I think that's important. I think more people think that Biden his
40:22
health will make him stumble. On the other side of the coin, people
40:24
are saying, well, I mean, how many indictments and convictions can Trump
40:29
withstand and still be presidents? Let's start with with Biden. I feel like
40:32
I watch him and it's a real rapid decline. You really think he's going
40:37
to get there? And if not, is it Michelle Obama waiting in the
40:39
wings? I mean, look, it is painful to watch the president,
40:43
you know. Look, I mean, look, I'm an American. I
40:45
want our president to be successful. I wanted to be out there representing the
40:46
world, representing Americans, the world and be strong, right, And it's
40:51
just a challenge because Joe Biden is just he's clearly in failing health. Is
40:55
an own administration can see that. They saw that when they put him out
40:59
there to talk about the Special Counsel's report and he was just struggling. You
41:05
know, this has been going on for a while, and I think the
41:07
American voters are seeing that, as the American publicans seeing that. I think
41:10
that is really helping Donald Trump because even though Donald Trump is only about three
41:14
years younger than Joe Biden, he clearly has a lot more vim and vigor
41:19
when he's out there speaking, you know, for good head daddy. I'm
41:21
not a fan of Biden, but when I watch him, I'm cringed,
41:24
cringe worthy because I don't want him to fall apart and fall the pieces,
41:30
because that's not good for anybody. And I'm actually a little bit nervous about
41:32
the State of the Union coming up. I can't imagine he can talk for
41:36
an hour. I'm with you, I mean, you know it's in the
41:38
evening. I mean, this is gonna be a real challenge. We'll see
41:40
how he does, right. But you know your question about Michelle Obama,
41:45
I do think there's something going on here. You know, I think a
41:47
lot of a lot of Conservnas have been saying this. You've seen a lot
41:50
of reports in various newspapers about this, but you just look at it.
41:52
I mean, you've got David Axelrod, one of the chief strategists for Barack
41:57
Obama, out there talking about how why is Joe Biden running for president?
42:01
This is weeks ago. Then all of a sudden, Michelle Obama's on TV
42:05
with her hair all done up, looking good, saying I'm word about the
42:07
state of the country. And now just this past week you've got you've got
42:10
four former White House staffers from the Obama administries saying, you know, Joe
42:15
Biden does Ata's ready for prime time? That feels like it's shive in the
42:19
back. And look, these super delgates and Democratic conventions, unlike the Republican
42:22
Party, can't actually make it happen at the convention. So you know,
42:25
you might be seeing a real effort by the Democratic Party base to take Joe
42:30
Biden out. And the crazy thing is they've got Kamala Harris, but they
42:34
don't like her anymore than we like her, maybe even less, And so
42:37
they're trying to put somebody else up. And you know, for them,
42:39
their view is if it's gonna be knocking Michelle, it's not gonna be Kamala
42:43
Harris. It's got to be somebody like a Michelle Obama or an Oprah Winfrey
42:46
and over win three ain't running for president. So and it can't be Gavin
42:49
Newsom because you can't use served Kamala, right, you got you have to.
42:52
You couldn't do that, right that guy, and that guy has run
42:55
California into the ground. I mean, I don't I don't understand how anybody's
42:58
even talking about Gavin Newsom as potential presidential candidate. Literally, my home state
43:01
of California is in the tank because of his leadership. There is no chance
43:07
that actually can give you a serious contender for president, even though he is
43:09
a very good looking man. And I think that's what he's got going for
43:12
him, to be honest with you, that's about it. And let me
43:14
ask you about the Trump side of it. Though all of these legal charges
43:16
are beginning to mount, I mean, I think there are some big things
43:20
that are going to be happening in May. For sure, does he make
43:23
it to the finish line with all of this. I mean, look,
43:25
I'll be candid with you. I think Donald Trump is going to face a
43:29
lot of serious issues in these cases, right, particularly the classified documents case
43:32
is gonna be a real challenge for him because it's going to be hard burning
43:36
amount a successful defense. There. Now that being said, I will say
43:39
that I think Donald Trump being even being convicted, you know, being on
43:44
trial for one but being convicted of a crime, I think he actually benefits
43:47
him with his voting base, and I think it actually, you know,
43:51
ends up working in his favors. So I think he's perpectly happy to go
43:54
forward and see how this thing plays out. I think he's actually gaining votes
43:59
because of all what's going on, and so I don't think this is a
44:00
negative for him. It may be that negative for the nation having a president
44:04
who might be indicted, might be convicted, might even be in jail on
44:07
the day he's elected, and it will only cause chaos if and when that
44:12
happens. But look, at the end of the day, I think this
44:15
actually is benefiting Donald Troup rather than hurting him. But you know, again,
44:19
you got to ask yourself, you know, as a party right for
44:22
conservatives or even as a nation. Do we want a man who brings that
44:25
much chaos into play? I mean, we've got an eighty year old failing
44:30
health president, another man who obviously has got a lot of challenges and brings
44:32
chaos to the White House. Some people like, we'll talk about wanting chaos,
44:36
but is that really what we want? Is a nation? Is that
44:38
going to make successful? That's why I find hard to understand. Legally,
44:43
can he serve if he is behind barsway he just they open the doors when
44:46
he becomes president and he walks out. How does that work? You know,
44:50
it's unprecedented. It never happened before, so we don't know. You
44:53
know, back in the day, Eugene Devs, a socialist, ran for
44:57
the presidency from a jail cell and said that he would take office. He
45:00
was elected. He didn't even get close to anywhere near the number of votes
45:04
he needed to get elected, but he did run from jail, and you
45:07
know, so we'll see what happens again. I don't I don't think that's
45:10
a likely scenario. But if it does come to pass, you know,
45:14
I mean, you got to wonder yourself, is this the best we can
45:16
do with a nation? You know, even if you are, even if
45:19
you believe he's in jail on prumpt up charges on things that's never been brought.
45:22
Whatever, is this The best we can do is the country an eighty
45:25
year old man with failing health and a man who might be beyond bars on
45:29
the day he's elected. It just seems crazy to me. Let me just
45:31
say this. Can you imagine how much different we might feel about about the
45:36
world, about the healthy United States if, in fact, you had a
45:39
Michelle Obama Versusniky Alien race versus the Joe Biden versus Donald Trump race. It
45:44
just feels a lot different for our country and for the world. Do you
45:47
believe the entirety of the judicial system was weaponized against Trump? Look, I
45:53
think I think some of these cases are hard to explain how haven't been brought.
45:57
But that being said, the classified documents came. It doesn't seem like
46:00
a hard case. Frankly, seems like an obvious thing. You just can't
46:02
take a whole stack in class high keep you know, top secret compartment information
46:07
out of a whiteout, bring it down and say well, I declass time
46:09
in my head, I mean, come on, and nobody's buying that story.
46:13
And so that's the biggest problem for him. The rest of it.
46:15
You know, some of these other cases. Look the January sixth case to
46:19
perform us. What you think about what happened on January sixth. It's they're
46:21
good in charge of with the insurrection. They shouldn't just charge an insurrection.
46:23
This whole conspiracy to whatever. It's really complicated. It's making their lives hard,
46:29
it's making his life hard. It doesn't make a lot of sense if
46:31
they thought they had the good they s brought that case. The founder and
46:34
executive director of the National Security Institute is our good friend Jamil Jaffer who's joining
46:38
us and we appreciate him carving out time, very very busy, Jamil,
46:42
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46:45
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get our free audiobook Guide. Eight hundred seven three four one two two nine
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eight hundred seven three four twelve twenty nine. All right, welcome back.
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We are talking with Jamil Jaffers. You hear them and see them just about
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everywhere, including CNN, and we're talking about all kinds of different issues.
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And I want to switch gears. Talk Ukraine, talk Russia, a lot
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of different information. What's the latest Ukraine in Russia? Yeah, look,
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I mean I think that Russia has made some games at the state. By
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the same token, you know, the Ukrainians have made minor games as well,
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and so you've essentially what you've got is a frozen conflict, right,
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nobody's making massive gains one way or the other. There is a question whether
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the Ukrainians can sustain this fight without significant US support. That obviously is is
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held up in Congress over the over the debates between Ukraine AID Israel AID and
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this question about the border security and so so this is still the fight is
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still going on. But I do worry that if they don't get our weapons
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and they don't get resupplied, they are going to start losing a lot more
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along faster Russia will gain that territory, and then we'll be in a world
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to hurt because Russia is not going to stop at the Ukrainian border. We've
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already heard Poland say that they're ready to fight. They're already doing more than
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their part in NATO. They're doing four percent of their budget versus a two
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percent required. Right, They're willing to go to eight percent if they need
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you to fight Russia, but they are not gonna able to do it on
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their own. And I mean, you know, can you imagine a world
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in which Russian actually succeeds to take Ukraine and then starts to go further That
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is not a rule we want to live in. We've got it. We've
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got to win this fight. Ukraine's got to win this fight, and we
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got to give them everything it takes to win that fight. The problem is
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the Bide administration for two years has been leaking a weapon slowly, so we're
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just spending a ton of money and not really winning the war. We need
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a strategy to win this war. We should not give it up. We
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should put the money in, but we need if we need to double down,
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double down and let's Ukrainans win. So you honestly believe that Ukraine is
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step one in a process across Europe. I have no doubt in my look.
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They didn't stop at Crimea. When Barack Obama the take Crimea back in
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twenty fourteen, Everyone's like, well that's gone. It is what it is.
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And then they went in and probably take Kiev right and we were able
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to push them back with our weaponry and they're brave fighting, and now we're
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in a question whether they're gonna be able to sustain that. And the reality
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is that turns on us dollars, it turns on us weapons. By the
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way, I want to note this lee, which is to say, you
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know, everyone thinks this money is being spent in Ukraine. It is not
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the vast majority of our America's money that's going to this fight, as being
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spent here in the United States to buy American weapons. They buy American workers
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and then shoot them over to CCV Ukrainian so to be sure they're getting the
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benefit of that money. But it's being spent on American jobs and American defense
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units here in the United States. Putin threw out a threat of nuclear war
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the other day. Any thoughts on that, look, Lader Putin has been
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waving around the nuclear threat since the beginning of this conflict, and it's partly
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what's got the Biden administration on the run. They're very afraid that he might
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be tempted to do it, and we should all be worried about that.
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Right. This is a country with a tremendous number of nuclear weapons, but
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there's a reason why they've never used them. It's because we have a tremendous
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around of nuclear weapons and they don't want to start that fi It doesn't end
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well for anybody. It may even end and civilization as we know it.
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He's is not going to go down that road. Unless he sees an existential
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threat, we don't need to go down that road and make it extential for
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him. All we need to do is push him out of Ukraine where he
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is and push him back to his border. If we're able to do that
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and enable that Ukrainians to do that without putting troops on the ground, we
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should do that. The reality is we just have not put the weaponry in
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the fight. We've barely got M one Abrams tanks in the fight, barely
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got at sixteen's in the fight. We need to cripple down on that.
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That will cost money, to be sure, but that is money better spent
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than the Russians succeeding at this war and ultimately costing this Look, we've seen
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the story before World War One. We're hesitant to get in World War Two,
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we're hausbitan to get in, and each time that happened it costs US
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more troops, more money, more American blood pressure. Instead of doing it
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ahead of time and getting now has to fight the fight and putting our money
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in weaponry behind them. Russia Ukraine is not the only war. We've got
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a war happening on fronts and Gaza. I'm of the mindset that need to
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annihilate and get rid of Hamas. Are you in the Gaza Israel conflict?
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Look, there is not going to be a ceasefire until Hamas is destroyed.
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And that's perfectly legitimate for these really to expect that after they suffered the equivalent
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of a dozen nine to eleven attacks on a population adjusted basis on that day
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in October seventh. So they're they're well within their rights to take out Hamas.
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They're not going to stop fighting. There will not be a ceasefire.
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So anybody in America's things that's going to happen is living a mythical dream.
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The reality is that the only way this thing gets won is for the hostage
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to be traded back and ultimately a deal to be done where Hamask gives up
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its control over Gaza. That's the only thing that is really will accept.
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And that's a completely reasonable given what happened in the October seventh the US would
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start talking about that the bid administration you're talking about that is to talk about
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a ceasefire, that's chime, Eric, what's Gaza look like when this is
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all done? In your mind? Look, I mean, Gaza is has
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long been a very difficult situation. You got two milli impacked in a very
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tight space. Right, they're economically disenfranchised, They're having real challenges. Right.
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Israel's got to realize that at Gaza, that's that's not productive. It's
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not going to be successful sitting on its border, no matter how many,
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no matter how deep a zone, you create a dead a clear zone between
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Israel's border and Gaza. Until you can figure out a way to get the
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power, the West Bank and Gaza working together effectively, get them actually creating
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economic success, They're not going to succeed. That's going to require the Arab
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States to do their part. It's going to require Israel to create that separation
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and ultimately figure out how to get Gaza into the right place. It's just
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leaving in the hands of Hamas for the last ten years, fifteen years has
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not been a successful strategy. We've got to figure something better out. Jamail
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Jeffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute, And we you
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love when we get a chance to sit out and shot with him with Bed.
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I got one more, one more topic. What is China waiting on
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to move on Taiwan? Look, I think The lesson that China has taken
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away from the Russian War in Ukraine is if you're going to go in,
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go in full force and the off before anybody has a chance to get their
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four weaponss of the fight, or bring their own weapon, or bring their
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own groups to bear. So, look, the US has a lot of
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assets in the region, but not nearly enough in Taiwan, in the China
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region, in the in the South China Sea, in that area, We've
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got enough there to start a fight and not win a fight. And China
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knows that, and so they go in and end and end that battle for
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Taiwan in a week or two, knowing's ought to fight or resistance in the
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mountain, right, but in the primary battle, they know the US won't
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show up because we just can't get there in time. Jamil, I got
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to jump in. We're out of time. I thank you very much.
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I know you're slammed busy. You can see Jamil Jaffers just about everywhere.
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Sure break, we'll come back. We're on lin Dell TV. Next stick
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