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An assessment of the war against Iran from our ally Israel's POV · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet. Your assessment of the war after twenty five.
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Speaker 2: Days, well, I think that Iran's military capabilities you have
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Speaker 2: been degraded substantially.
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Speaker 3: I know that the Israeli.
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Speaker 2: Sources I'm speaking with are very happy with the results
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Speaker 2: of the United States and Israel have had in attacking
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Speaker 2: both the ballistic missile capabilities of Iran, it's nuclear installations,
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Speaker 2: but also the military apparatus of Iran. And what they're
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Speaker 2: saying you is that when the Iranians wake up after
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Speaker 2: this war, what they're going to discover is that they
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Speaker 2: don't have any military industry left, they don't have military
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Speaker 2: research facilities that they used to use in order to
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Speaker 2: develop nuclear weapons, and they're not going to have a
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Speaker 2: large chunk of whatever they thought they can use against
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Speaker 2: their neighbors now. Strategically speaking, and you know you read
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Speaker 2: my newsletter, I never sugarcoat I try to speak very clearly.
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely the case that this war is refocused around
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Speaker 2: the Strait of Homers and the need to open the
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Speaker 2: Strait of Homers for global energy. And I think that
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Speaker 2: the administration and Israel are very much focused at.
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Speaker 1: That my own personal view, and I've stated it, and
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Speaker 1: I talked to Earbot that what Montgomery is if that
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Speaker 1: has to stay closed for two months while this regime crumbles,
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Speaker 1: and it actually crumbles, that is well worth the cost
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Speaker 1: to the world in higher energy prices. Do you agree
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Speaker 1: with me if the regime is actually outstood by the
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Speaker 1: end of this, if it takes too much, would you mind?
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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't mind personally, but I am not an
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Speaker 2: expert on global economy and of course on global energy.
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Speaker 2: And here's the thing. The Strait isn't really closed. It's
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Speaker 2: close to those tankers that are affiliated with the West,
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Speaker 2: with the United States, with Europe. But the Iranians are
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Speaker 2: still pumping oil there about why one point three to
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Speaker 2: one point five one point six million.
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Speaker 3: Barrels a day, and they're still exporting.
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Speaker 2: They're controlling the Strait, and this is an impossibility even
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Speaker 2: in terms of the terrets for the United States and
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Speaker 2: for other golf countries. This is the reason why golf
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Speaker 2: countries are now pressuring the sides that are fighting this
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Speaker 2: war not to allow Iran to get away with it,
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Speaker 2: because that could be detrimental for their future in the
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Speaker 2: region and for global economy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I read that Wall Street Journal. In fact, I
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Speaker 1: just played all right, we'll be playing after I talk
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Speaker 1: with you, a piece that I did with Dana Prino
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Speaker 1: today saying conference NBS and NBZ and the UAE, they
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Speaker 1: want to go over to the offense now because they
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that Iran is on its knees,
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Speaker 1: if not crushed by the end of it. What is
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Speaker 1: your definition of your minimal definition of success? Big success
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Speaker 1: is regime change? What's the deminimus You think Israel has
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Speaker 1: to get out of this?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that, but Israel needs to get already
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Speaker 2: got it degraded the military capabilities of Iran. Of course,
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Speaker 2: a regime change is what you would want to fee
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Speaker 2: to a certain degree. But this could take a long time.
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that the person calling the shorts
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Speaker 2: is the commander in chief of the United States. It's
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Speaker 2: the president. The President is making the decision. And if
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Speaker 2: we listen you to what the President has been telling
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Speaker 2: us in the last two or three weeks, he has
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Speaker 2: been very content with the military results. And we know
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Speaker 2: because of the ultimatum and because of the announcement made
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Speaker 2: by the President in postponing the implementation of the ultimatum.
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Speaker 2: The US wants to get a good agreement with Iran.
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Speaker 2: Of course, if you get those hundreds of kilograms of
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Speaker 2: enriched uranium out of Iran, that's a youth success. If
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Speaker 2: you get some sort of limitations on their ballistic midsile program,
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Speaker 2: that's a big success. If they stop funding proxies across
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Speaker 2: the region's that's marvelous. But if you're looking to some
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Speaker 2: sort of of a military aim a military go here.
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Speaker 2: And I'm listening to what the President said at the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the war, and what the Prime Minister said,
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Speaker 2: but mainly the President and the Secretary before here in
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Speaker 2: the United States. What you're hearing is that it was
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Speaker 2: mostly not about what the Iranians are going to agree to,
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Speaker 2: but rather what you can take away from them in
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Speaker 2: terms of their abilities, and these abilities have been substantially degraded.
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Speaker 2: What would be the strategic situation after the war.
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Speaker 3: That's a good question.
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Speaker 2: And if the Uranians feel that they want this, that
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Speaker 2: they survive this, that now they're of the hook, that's
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Speaker 2: going to be a problem here. But you this administration
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Speaker 2: is going to be here for the next three years,
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Speaker 2: and according to the public statements by this administration, I
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Speaker 2: don't think that they're going to allow Iran to procure
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. And I'm saying this again. I'm an outsider
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Speaker 2: to this. I speak with his ready sources, but this
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Speaker 2: is what I'm hearing on the record from Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: And I agree with that, and I don't even think
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Speaker 1: it's a I think we can say the minimum level
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Speaker 1: of successes at the enriched uranium has to be out
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Speaker 1: of the country with instant verification surprise verification visits everywhere,
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Speaker 1: which the JGPOA did not provide for Nonada. If you're
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Speaker 1: one of those annoying people, I can't tell if you're
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Speaker 1: thirty or you're fifty, how old are you, because I
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Speaker 1: want to know how many wars you've covered.
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Speaker 3: I'm forty seven.
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Speaker 2: And the first conflict that I covered was the Second
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Speaker 2: Intifada that broke out, as people that probably remember in
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Speaker 2: the year two thousand after the failed attempt in Kim David,
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Speaker 2: led by President Clinton and Prime Minister Barat So. I
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Speaker 2: was a Chief West Bank correspondent between nineteen ninety seven
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Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety nine, and then I.
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Speaker 3: Covered the Lebanon War.
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Speaker 2: Even before that, I even went into Lebanon during the
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Speaker 2: time that Israel was occupying parts of Lebanon back in
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Speaker 2: the nineties, in the late nineties.
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Speaker 1: In the second segment, I want to talk to you
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Speaker 1: about I want to talk to you about Lebanon in the
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Speaker 1: second segment. But my big question. You're an experienced guy
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Speaker 1: covering war, in your twenty five plus years of covering war,
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Speaker 1: how does the last twenty five days rank in terms
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Speaker 1: of impressiveness of interoperability of militaries that are I know
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Speaker 1: that the US and the Israelis have trained a little
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Speaker 1: bit together, but I had no idea they could work
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Speaker 1: this well together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is amazing in terms of just the joint
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Speaker 2: ability to work together. It's a new world in which
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Speaker 2: the United States can work with an ally light like Israel,
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Speaker 2: and hundreds of aeroplanes can fly at once. People here hundreds,
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Speaker 2: maybe they sort of imagine thousands or more. There are
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Speaker 2: no other countries in the world besides maybe Russia and
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Speaker 2: China that can do what the United States and Israel
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Speaker 2: did here together.
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Speaker 3: Of course, the US could do this alone and will be.
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Speaker 2: Much more powerful than any other country in the world
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Speaker 2: or all the countries combined. But here you have the
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Speaker 2: sort of alions that we've never seen. It's the first
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Speaker 2: time in history that both armies are fighting together. And
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Speaker 2: also if you look at other wars, it's the first
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Speaker 2: time the US is making a stand as to the
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Speaker 2: future strategically of the region. Iran has been supporting terror
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Speaker 2: across the region for so many years, has been killing
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Speaker 2: Americans since the nineteen eighties. In the region, it has
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Speaker 2: become such a powerful regional.
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Speaker 3: Power, a heg amount of sorts.
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Speaker 2: And here the United States is definitely making a stand
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Speaker 2: and we will need to see what will be the
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Speaker 2: results of this stand at the end of it. And
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Speaker 2: one of my experiences is someone who's been covering wars,
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Speaker 2: is that you really need to wait and see this
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Speaker 2: in retrospect in order to make a clear judgment. That's
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Speaker 2: the truth. I know it's annoying, but we need to
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Speaker 2: wake it through. There will be ups and downs in
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Speaker 2: order to see the new strategic situation.
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Speaker 3: I'll just give you one example. I know it's a
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Speaker 3: long answer.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's saying, Oh, now, the Ranians have used the straight
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Speaker 2: of olle Moose. They've proven that they can close the
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Speaker 2: straight of fur Moose. And technically that's true, but they
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Speaker 2: have just thrown in you their only asset, their main acid.
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Speaker 2: They have used their final threat. Strategically speaking, they can't
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Speaker 2: do this again. They cannot do this again, and all
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Speaker 2: of their neighbors know that they've been doing that.
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Speaker 1: And I do think they also showed us who they are.
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Speaker 1: They showed the world who they are when they filed
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Speaker 1: that Diego Garcia, when they fired it, everyone from Azerberjon
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Speaker 1: to Turkey, everyone in the golf Arab state. I think
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Speaker 1: twelve different countries they've attacked. So they've showed us who
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Speaker 1: they are, and we don't ever have to be asked
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Speaker 1: them again thirty seconds for this. Has Donald Trump exhausted
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Speaker 1: his ability to surprise you?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no, you know, never never think that the president
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Speaker 2: has exhausted his ability to surprise us. By the way,
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Speaker 2: any president, but this president of course President Trump specifically.
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Speaker 2: I remind people when they hear about the ultimatum and
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Speaker 2: they say, now it's being postponed. I look at the
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Speaker 2: eighty second Airborne Division and.
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Speaker 3: It's yuppies, right. I look with the marine.
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Speaker 1: That is terrific because it's very very good. Now I
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Speaker 1: got two questions in eight minutes, hesba Lah and how
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Speaker 1: long Israel is going to have to stay? Are they
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Speaker 1: going to occupy what is it? One hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: square miles between the is border in the Latani River.
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Speaker 1: Do they have to go in there and stay there
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Speaker 1: for as long as it takes and will they do that?
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Speaker 1: And then secondly, I want to talk politics and Yaho,
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Speaker 1: So tell me about Asbala and Lebanon first and then
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Yaho and maybe a cocky election. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So as to Lebanon and his Balla, here's the problem.
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Speaker 2: It's a really simple problem. There is a UN Security
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Speaker 2: Council decision from after Israel left Lebanon in the year
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Speaker 2: two thousand and that UN Security Council decision says that
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Speaker 2: there are no armed militias in Lebanon and all of
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Speaker 2: these militias need to be completely disarmed. Everything needs to
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Speaker 2: everyone who has a weapon needs to let go of
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Speaker 2: that weapon. Besides, of course, the police in the army
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Speaker 2: Lebanon has never lived up to that. And it's not
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Speaker 2: because the Lebanese country the state doesn't want to do that,
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Speaker 2: but because it's held captive by Hisballa. Just in the
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Speaker 2: last two years, you, Hballa, got between a billion to
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Speaker 2: a billion and a half dollars from a really poor country,
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Speaker 2: a really big poor country called you that been supplying
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Speaker 2: them with arms and with funds and the majority of
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Speaker 2: Lebanese do not want Hisbala to again and again attack Israel.
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Speaker 2: The United States and Israel began this operation against Iran,
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Speaker 2: nobody attacked Hisbala.
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Speaker 3: Hissbaala decided to join the war.
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Speaker 2: Now, the problem there is that the Lebanese political system
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Speaker 2: continues saying we want them this armed. But they can't
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Speaker 2: do that because you know, you have this armed militia,
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Speaker 2: extremely powerful, funded by Iran.
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Speaker 3: It's all over the country.
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Speaker 2: It represents parts of the minority, the Shia minority, Muslim
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Speaker 2: share minority in Iran. How are you gonna let go
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Speaker 2: of them? And the Israelis are in a bit of
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Speaker 2: a trap here. If they capture that territory that you're
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Speaker 2: speaking about between their northern border and the Litani River,
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Speaker 2: then what what's gonna happen? Then with Hisbela Husaballa's gonna say,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to defend Lebanon. I'm gonna three these territories
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Speaker 2: that were taken by the Israelies.
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Speaker 3: Now I have a legitimate cause. ASTRS their concerned.
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Speaker 2: So even if you take that territory, you at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, they're not gonna just disappear. You
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Speaker 2: need to basically occupy the entire country. Israel is not
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Speaker 2: going to do that.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to occupy the entire state of Lebanon.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to happen.
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Speaker 2: So you need to somehow leverage your force in order
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Speaker 2: to have the Lebanese themselves this mantle Hazbala And that's
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Speaker 2: a challenge. That's a challenge in the region.
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Speaker 3: One of the ways to get to that is for
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Speaker 3: Iran to be battered in this war.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope that Americans gave a lot of grace
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Speaker 1: to the Israel and that the President doesn't bet Iran
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Speaker 1: sufficiently before you've beaten Hezbalah out of southern Lebanon. Let
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Speaker 1: me turn to politics. In nineteen hundred, when the Second
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Speaker 1: Boer War looked like it had been won, the Conservatives
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Speaker 1: who are in charge of Great Britain called a snap
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Speaker 1: election called the Khaki Election, and they won four hundred
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Speaker 1: plus sage. The poor Liberal Party got crushed below like
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Speaker 1: I had one hundred and eighty seats. Do you expect
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister net to call early election at the conclusion
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Speaker 1: of this war.
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Speaker 2: So first of all, I want to say you that
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Speaker 2: this is the reason why it's such a joy to
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Speaker 2: go on your show, because no one else will will
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Speaker 2: bring that example of history about you, and I think
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Speaker 2: it's a it's a very opportunity. It's a very relevant
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Speaker 2: example for our case here. Look, the Prime Minister can
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Speaker 2: call a really an early election because the election is.
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Speaker 3: Already due by the end of October.
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Speaker 2: Even if he does that where approaching April, that leaves
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Speaker 2: us with July is ready. Elections are not held in
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Speaker 2: July and August because basically, let's put it this way,
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Speaker 2: everybody is in the you know, on the shore, on
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Speaker 2: the seashore or traveling abroad. Usually no elections are held
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Speaker 2: in July and August. That brings us to September. There
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Speaker 2: are the holidays, the Jewish holidays, the Jewish New Year's
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Speaker 2: in September. That brings us to October. Anyway, So even
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Speaker 2: if he wants a snap election, it takes us to
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Speaker 2: the end of June and beginning of July. It's difficult
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Speaker 2: to see now. Right now, he's not rising in the poll.
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Speaker 2: Right now, the polls aren't giving the Prime Minister any
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Speaker 2: bump as a result of this war. Don't ask me why,
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Speaker 2: I don't know yet. We need to see how this
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Speaker 2: plays out after the war. He's definitely getting credit for
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Speaker 2: having a vision as to Iran and now trying to
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Speaker 2: implement it. Is also getting a lot of criticism because
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Speaker 2: of his alliance with the ultra orthodox and the feeling
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Speaker 2: that nobody knows how this war will actually.
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Speaker 3: End as far as these radis are concerned. So the
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Speaker 3: jury is still out.
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Speaker 2: Usually you would want to see these reactions in the
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Speaker 2: poll already during the war if you're the prime minister.
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Speaker 2: He's not seeing this yet, and right now I need
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Speaker 2: to say this again. I'm speaking always clearly about these issues.
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Speaker 2: He's been losing every poll for the last years, almost
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Speaker 2: every poll. Are right wing channels affiliated more with the
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Speaker 2: government that give him much more credit in those pots
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Speaker 2: and are saying it's a tie. But basically most pots
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Speaker 2: are saying he's losing. Doesn't mean he's.
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Speaker 3: Going to lose.
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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to sit on your show and say, oh, Natanieo,
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Speaker 2: he's not going to win that election because NATANIEO has
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Speaker 2: won so many elections, he's proven as an excellent campaigner.
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Speaker 3: But right now he's not winning according to the Post.
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Speaker 1: All right, my very last question, I can't care enough
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Speaker 1: news about the war because for some reason, very little
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Speaker 1: time other than on the Fox News Network and the
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Speaker 1: Sale News channel is given over the coverage of the war.
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Speaker 1: How much time does is Raeli media spend on the war.
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Speaker 3: It's like a one hundred percent on the war.
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Speaker 2: It's eighty percent on the war, another twenty percent on
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Speaker 2: what's happening in Israel. We are having missile attacks, sirens
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Speaker 2: are being sounded now, the launching of missiles. But it's
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Speaker 2: the commissions to Israel is about ten a day. But
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Speaker 2: is a really small country.
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Speaker 3: As your viewers and your listeners know.
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Speaker 2: And because of that, the entire country sometimes needs to
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Speaker 2: go into a boomb shelter or a safe room. And
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Speaker 2: because of that, we're covering that, We're covering the damages.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's discussing these issues. So this takes a lot chunk
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Speaker 2: during the day, But basically it's live twenty four to
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Speaker 2: seven push notification. You probably heard a few from my phone.
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Speaker 2: I didn't silence it before the show. As we go
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Speaker 2: through the day because the war is everything. Look, this
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Speaker 2: is probably my final point. People need to understand this.
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Speaker 2: Iran has been waging a secret war not only against Israel,
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Speaker 2: but against most Arab countries in the region for the
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Speaker 2: last fifty years, they've been killing so many Israelis. But
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Speaker 2: even more so, most of the people that have been
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Speaker 2: killing are not Israelis or Americans. They are Arabs across
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Speaker 2: the region. So this is supposed to be the war.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say that will end all war,
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Speaker 2: but it will at least change the strategic dynamics of
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Speaker 2: the region. This is the hope in Israel today. Many
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Speaker 2: people are tired because of the sirens, because of the damages,
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Speaker 2: because it's been three years since almost three years, two
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Speaker 2: and a half years since October seven.
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Speaker 3: But there's this desire to see a.
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Speaker 2: Real change, a long lasting change that will lead to
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Speaker 2: peace agreements across the region, maybe with more golf countries
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Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 1: It's a genuine pivot point, and I appreciate your taking
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Speaker 1: on Dan sane oors Call Me Back Insider, which I
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Speaker 1: also recommend to you. Thank you, Nadav. I'll be right
19:49
Speaker 1: back and back tap you. Hewett joined by Michael Duncan,
19:53
Speaker 1: one of the fellas on the Ruthless podcastle He joins
19:56
Speaker 1: me once a month. The other three fellows come in
19:58
Speaker 1: once every month they show up or so. Michael, I
20:01
Speaker 1: don't know that I've talked to you since Indiana University,
20:04
Speaker 1: You're alma mater, won the national championship. I want to
20:07
Speaker 1: congratulate you, and I also want to know. I don't
20:10
Speaker 1: know if you have kids, but if you, if you
20:12
Speaker 1: did have kids, did you watch the game with them?
20:16
Speaker 4: Yes, Hugh, thank you for the congratulations. You know, if
20:21
Speaker 4: Indiana can win a national championship, anybody can. I hope
20:23
Speaker 4: it inspires everybody. I did take our six year old
20:27
Speaker 4: Joey to an IU game in Bloomington, and he absolutely
20:30
Speaker 4: loved it. They didn't manage to stay up for the
20:33
Speaker 4: whole national championship, but they are very excited at IU won.
20:37
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was twelve years old when the
20:39
Speaker 1: Ohio State won in nineteen sixty eight rex Kerrns team,
20:42
Speaker 1: and I can barely remember it, and my dad was
20:45
Speaker 1: pretty excited. And it's just Great Holmes was on last
20:48
Speaker 1: week talking to me about watching the hockey game with
20:50
Speaker 1: his kids, and it's a really kind of special deal
20:52
Speaker 1: when dads and kids can watch sporting of it, they'll
20:55
Speaker 1: remember it even if they don't get the details right.
20:57
Speaker 1: Next question, you guys the fellow. We're pretty hard on
21:01
Speaker 1: Bryn Mahr and Sarah Lawrence today. Now their university is
21:04
Speaker 1: like IU. What's the difference between I you and Sarah
21:08
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Bryn Maher? How dare you?
21:12
Speaker 5: He?
21:14
Speaker 6: We are athletic powerhouse at IU. How dare you?
21:21
Speaker 3: I just wanted to stick up for Sarah Lawrence and
21:23
Speaker 3: Bryn Mark.
21:24
Speaker 1: You go all right, Now here's the serious question. Ground rules. Okay,
21:27
Speaker 1: there are ground rules, Duncan. It's like when you play
21:30
Speaker 1: one of your games. I never rag on anybody with
21:34
Speaker 1: whom I've worked before, So on the no ragging list
21:37
Speaker 1: are Chuck Todd, Jake Tapper, Dana Prino, Wolf Flitzer, Lester Holt,
21:42
Speaker 1: and Kristen Welker, so we can't rag on them. Nevertheless,
21:45
Speaker 1: I want to talk about sets.
21:47
Speaker 5: Now.
21:47
Speaker 1: You look behind me and there's a set. It's the
21:49
Speaker 1: same set Salem News Channel set on the East Coast
21:52
Speaker 1: to the West Coast and Studio North. They made me
21:55
Speaker 1: change on my sets, which had been installed by NBC,
21:59
Speaker 1: which really Jake's news set full of it looked like
22:03
Speaker 1: my office the stuff I've got on every desk in
22:05
Speaker 1: the world. Ruthless set is spartan. In fact, let's go
22:09
Speaker 1: to the picture of the Ruthless set right now. This
22:11
Speaker 1: is a there's a spartan set that we're looking at
22:13
Speaker 1: with duncan, isn't it. Would you consider that spartan? Yeah?
22:18
Speaker 1: You know, we h.
22:20
Speaker 6: I think we let the words speak for themselves.
22:23
Speaker 1: You know, that's not actually the set. That's their dress
22:26
Speaker 1: up set. Go to the live shot of Michael. That's
22:29
Speaker 1: their dress up set, and Michael's on their real set.
22:32
Speaker 1: That's their real set. That's what they got. Yeah, that's
22:36
Speaker 1: not it's spartan. So what do you think is going on?
22:40
Speaker 1: This is set number one, like the old uh make
22:45
Speaker 1: a deal? This is set number one, yours is set
22:48
Speaker 1: number two, and Jake Tappers is set number three? Which
22:50
Speaker 1: one would you take?
22:54
Speaker 5: You know?
22:54
Speaker 1: I don't.
22:54
Speaker 4: I don't think that much about the set. I appreciate
22:57
Speaker 4: the production. Shout out to Lee Wolf for executive producer.
23:00
Speaker 4: I think has made a fantastic set with fantastic lighting.
23:03
Speaker 4: I think a beautiful set helps, you know. I think
23:06
Speaker 4: a handsome host like you, Hugh, I.
23:08
Speaker 6: Think it helps.
23:09
Speaker 4: But I think ultimately, at the end of the day,
23:10
Speaker 4: it's what you discuss, the honesty, the authenticity that makes
23:14
Speaker 4: people listen to you and trust you. And I think
23:16
Speaker 4: that's the issue with CNN is they've lost the trust
23:19
Speaker 4: of the audience. So they can change the format however
23:21
Speaker 4: they want. They can change the background or put it
23:23
Speaker 4: in someone's office. I don't think it's going to change
23:25
Speaker 4: the outcome, Okay.
23:27
Speaker 1: I think that spartan is the new look, and I
23:32
Speaker 1: like the ruthless set because it is spartan and there
23:35
Speaker 1: is nothing to distract from the fact when you guys
23:37
Speaker 1: are laughing and you see your expression. So I think
23:39
Speaker 1: they made a mistake at CNN. And I'm not saying
23:42
Speaker 1: that to wish that Jake Ill because of my rules.
23:45
Speaker 1: I just think that clean is better.
23:47
Speaker 5: Now.
23:48
Speaker 1: Now I want to go to a serious subject, you guys.
23:51
Speaker 1: Filleid Chuck Schumer today, but not as bad as John Kennedy.
23:55
Speaker 1: He was asked by Dana and Bill this morning about
23:58
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's explanation of why DHS is shut down. Here
24:03
Speaker 1: is what Senator Kennedy said, cut number four.
24:07
Speaker 6: He's lined, He's line like fish swim.
24:11
Speaker 1: Now, Michael Duncan, is that how senators talk about senators? Usually?
24:17
Speaker 6: That's how John Kennedy talks.
24:19
Speaker 4: And you know, he has a zinger for everyone, which
24:22
Speaker 4: I appreciate, and I think he's cut to the heart
24:24
Speaker 4: of the matter here. I don't know that Chuck Schumer
24:26
Speaker 4: knows what Chuck Schumer's doing anymore. And this goes back
24:29
Speaker 4: aways Hugh. We've been talking about it for a year
24:32
Speaker 4: on the Ruthless Variety program, back in the initial funding.
24:36
Speaker 6: Fight on the budget a year ago.
24:38
Speaker 4: This time, you know, he was holding out for something,
24:41
Speaker 4: and eventually he concedes, and the left side of his
24:45
Speaker 4: party goes crazy, right, and he doesn't know how to
24:48
Speaker 4: contain the energy on the left because the entire party's
24:50
Speaker 4: captured by.
24:51
Speaker 6: The left wing lunatics. And so then what does he do.
24:54
Speaker 4: He goes and he shuts down the government, ostensibly for
24:58
Speaker 4: Obamacare subsidies right last fall, holds it longest government shut
25:03
Speaker 4: down in American history, goes right up through that Virginia election,
25:07
Speaker 4: if you recall, and then it sort of Peters out
25:11
Speaker 4: for no reason exactly. They didn't get what they wanted,
25:13
Speaker 4: and now he's shut down the government again on DHS
25:16
Speaker 4: to provide the left flank what they want. It doesn't
25:19
Speaker 4: inspire a lot of confidence in the future of his leadership.
25:23
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a zombie leader? In other words,
25:26
Speaker 1: he's moving forward, he's acting like a leader, but it's
25:30
Speaker 1: really over. He's dead. Yeah.
25:34
Speaker 4: I tend to agree with the reporting we saw in
25:36
Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal last weekend from Shabon Hughes and
25:39
Speaker 4: Eliza Collins, who are well sourced when it comes to
25:42
Speaker 4: democratic leadership and Democrats in the United States Senate.
25:46
Speaker 6: You may recall Shabon Hughes was also on the.
25:48
Speaker 4: Byeline for a lot of that early Biden reporting about
25:51
Speaker 4: does he have it anymore? Is he going to have
25:54
Speaker 4: to step aside for Kamala Harris, And she got lambasted
25:57
Speaker 4: by the left wing media, but she had the story first.
26:00
Speaker 4: So I trust that they're very well sourced in this case.
26:02
Speaker 4: And it seems like Chris Murphy is on the rise
26:05
Speaker 4: in the Democratic conference in the United States Senate, trying
26:08
Speaker 4: to start this so called fight club. You know, we
26:10
Speaker 4: don't talk about fight club but we meet at French
26:13
Speaker 4: restaurants in Georgetown and talk about.
26:14
Speaker 6: How we need a new leader in the Democratic Conference.
26:17
Speaker 1: French toast. It was a good segment. It was a
26:19
Speaker 1: really good show today. Now I have an appeal to
26:22
Speaker 1: make to the fellas. How many of you live in Virginia?
26:27
Speaker 6: Three of us?
26:27
Speaker 1: All right? Those three? Oh, that's right, smack Junoth Carolinia.
26:33
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare if this initiative passes. Are you guys
26:37
Speaker 1: going to throw in and get the minions to go
26:40
Speaker 1: to work to vote no on this initiative before I
26:43
Speaker 1: think April twenty first, we've got a defeat. That it's
26:46
Speaker 1: suicide for Virginia to go from a six to five
26:49
Speaker 1: delegation to at tend one. They'll never get anything again
26:52
Speaker 1: from a Republican Congress if they do this.
26:55
Speaker 4: Well, I think you're absolutely right, Hugh, and I'm sure
26:57
Speaker 4: we're going to have more people on to discuss this
27:00
Speaker 4: redissearching fight in Virginia. We did cover it earlier on
27:04
Speaker 4: on the program where we played some of the ads
27:06
Speaker 4: from this so called you know Virginians for Fair Elections
27:08
Speaker 4: group that the Democrats stood up and they're showing ads
27:11
Speaker 4: of Barack Obama talking about how they're named to jerrymander
27:13
Speaker 4: the state. It's offensive, and I think on the airwaves
27:17
Speaker 4: they're leading seventeen to one in spending, so they're up
27:21
Speaker 4: you know, Republicans are up against it in this fight.
27:24
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of whispers among Democrats in the
27:27
Speaker 4: state that this isn't exactly a done deal. So you know,
27:30
Speaker 4: Republicans in state need to run through the finish line
27:33
Speaker 4: on this thing.
27:33
Speaker 1: Well, it's really stupid, don't you agree, as a matter
27:37
Speaker 1: of just doing well by your state. You don't want
27:39
Speaker 1: to go from a six' five delegation which is needed
27:43
Speaker 1: by both, parties to attend one delegation which basically doesn't
27:46
Speaker 1: exist for The republicans, anymore like being In. California nobody
27:50
Speaker 1: cares About california.
27:51
Speaker 4: Anymore, well and the other, Thing hugh, is if you
27:54
Speaker 4: watch any of the, ads it doesn't really pass the sniff, test.
27:58
Speaker 4: Right they're, like we need to read district the state
28:01
Speaker 4: ten to one For democrats to restore.
28:03
Speaker 6: Fairness It's. Orwellian it doesn't make any.
28:05
Speaker 4: Sense so for your average citizen who watches these, ads they're,
28:08
Speaker 4: like what the heck is?
28:09
Speaker 2: This?
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Speaker 1: OKAY i haven't seen the ads, yet BUT i. WILL
28:12
Speaker 1: i will watch them with. Interest Michael, duncan proud I
28:16
Speaker 1: u alum and supporter Of Sarah lawrence and Brnmar thank
28:20
Speaker 1: you for joining me to welcome back To, America Hugh
28:28
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28:31
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28:39
Speaker 1: Corse planet for The. Dispatch, david what are the politics
28:43
Speaker 1: of the war With? Iran which is going very very
28:46
Speaker 1: well in the war. Part i'm not sure if the
28:49
Speaker 1: media is covering it, though like we're, winning which.
28:52
Speaker 7: We, Are, Yes, HUGH i don't think much has, changed.
28:56
Speaker 7: RIGHT i Think republicans are largely, SUPPORTIVE i mean pretty
28:59
Speaker 7: overwhelmingly support of. Independence are on the negative, Side democrats
29:04
Speaker 7: are obviously overwhelmingly. AGAINST i think part of the issue
29:07
Speaker 7: is the administration keeps shifting its, objectives and there could
29:11
Speaker 7: be multiple, objectives but they're all being sort of described
29:14
Speaker 7: as this is the objective, today this is another objective.
29:17
Speaker 7: Tomorrow i'm not trying to be critical here but to.
29:20
Speaker 7: EXPLAIN i think why you know there isn't broader support
29:24
Speaker 7: for the progress of the war because nobody really knows
29:26
Speaker 7: what to make of the, progress because they don't know
29:28
Speaker 7: what it's supposed to. Mean and, remember The president launched
29:31
Speaker 7: this war without preparing The american public or building a.
29:35
Speaker 7: Case it doesn't mean there isn't a. Case you AND
29:37
Speaker 7: i have discussed the fact that there's a really good
29:39
Speaker 7: case for. It but when you don't prepare the public
29:42
Speaker 7: and begin to sell and explain to the public why
29:46
Speaker 7: you might do this and what the case, IS i
29:49
Speaker 7: think it's hard for it's hard to expect people to
29:52
Speaker 7: jump on, board particularly when they don't quite know what
29:55
Speaker 7: victory looks, like even if as is very, clear we're
29:59
Speaker 7: winning military haraily from day.
30:01
Speaker 1: To day, NOW i watch every Cent com, release EVERY idf,
30:06
Speaker 1: release every statement by The, President secretary Of, Rubio secretary Heag,
30:10
Speaker 1: seth The admiral of The. GENERAL i watch it. ALL
30:14
Speaker 1: i think the objectives are pretty. Clear destroy the nuclear weapons,
30:17
Speaker 1: program get the enriched uranium out Of, iran destroy their
30:22
Speaker 1: ability to make war on their, neighbors and degrade their repressive.
30:25
Speaker 1: Apparatus though not necessarily regime, change and of course now
30:30
Speaker 1: open the strait of horror moves so that people that
30:32
Speaker 1: can pass through five. OBJECTIVES i think they've achieved three
30:37
Speaker 1: out of five. Already the admiral said yesterday we sunk
30:40
Speaker 1: one hundred and Forty iranian. Ships do you see public
30:44
Speaker 1: opinion changing the more that it becomes. CLEAR i don't
30:48
Speaker 1: think the media is. Helping they're not doing the patriotic.
30:51
Speaker 1: THING i, MEAN i really don't think they're being. Patriotic
30:54
Speaker 1: but in the, end it will be the results that
30:57
Speaker 1: speak for. Themselves do you think the public opinion will
31:00
Speaker 1: change if they are successful in achieving those five?
31:04
Speaker 7: Goals, possible but possibly. NOT i think WE'RE i think
31:08
Speaker 7: time will, tell and we're just gonna have to. SEE i,
31:10
Speaker 7: MEAN i think, AGAIN i think part of the issue
31:11
Speaker 7: is you. Yourself they're very concisely and clearly and in
31:16
Speaker 7: simple terms laid up five key, objectives, right but it's
31:19
Speaker 7: not how it's being communicated in a unified way from the,
31:23
Speaker 7: administration and particularly for the president who, has you, know
31:27
Speaker 7: the bully, pulpit and a unique one at, that given
31:29
Speaker 7: who he is and how he likes to. Communicate and,
31:33
Speaker 7: LOOK i, Mean i've been as critical as anyone over
31:36
Speaker 7: the years about media, bias particularly With republican, Administrations BUT i,
31:40
Speaker 7: think you, know the media, is you, know just try
31:42
Speaker 7: and ask a lot of tough. QUESTIONS i, mean even
31:45
Speaker 7: the you, know so called maga aligned in the tank
31:48
Speaker 7: press was asking questions early on Of Secretary hegseth that
31:52
Speaker 7: he found offensive and didn't like, Answering and you, KNOW
31:56
Speaker 7: i think that's just the sort of thing that happens in.
31:58
Speaker 8: War you.
31:59
Speaker 7: KNOW i think the priotic thing is if you've got
32:02
Speaker 7: a scoop that could hurt the military objective and Put
32:05
Speaker 7: american lives in, danger you hold the. News BUT i
32:08
Speaker 7: think it's plenty patriotic to ask a lot of hard.
32:11
Speaker 7: Questions and, AGAIN i think a lot of this could
32:13
Speaker 7: have been solved if the president would have made a
32:15
Speaker 7: case for the war leading up to the, war and
32:19
Speaker 7: if he was as concise and consistent as you just
32:22
Speaker 7: were with the.
32:23
Speaker 1: Objectives, well, yeah WHAT i think is patriotic is to
32:27
Speaker 1: ask tough questions about how long will it be for
32:29
Speaker 1: the straight of hormments to be open and how difficult
32:31
Speaker 1: will it? Be but also if there was a box
32:34
Speaker 1: on every landing page that listed nine thousand military, strikes
32:38
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty ships, sunk just the statistics of the.
32:42
Speaker 1: WAR i think that would be a fine way to. Go, Now,
32:46
Speaker 1: david the next question is The. DEMOCRATS i have a
32:50
Speaker 1: column In Fox news today The Republican President trump has
32:54
Speaker 1: returned THE gop to The party Of defense and, deterrence
32:57
Speaker 1: and The democrats are. Pacifists are just. PACIFISTS i don't
33:01
Speaker 1: think they'll ever fight a war, again AND i don't
33:03
Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose. That what do you THINK.
33:07
Speaker 5: I mean ever?
33:09
Speaker 7: AGAIN i don't want to say anything ever, again, RIGHT i,
33:12
Speaker 7: mean how Many, republicans or let's just put it this,
33:14
Speaker 7: way how many of the sort of populist right were
33:17
Speaker 7: convinced that That President trump was going to be the
33:19
Speaker 7: one president that they could take to the, bank would
33:22
Speaker 7: never launch a war Against, iran never mind the case for,
33:25
Speaker 7: it which you AND i have discussed. Repeatedly they were
33:27
Speaker 7: convinced here's the one guy that wasn't going to be
33:30
Speaker 7: the so called neokon. Warmonger and now he's doing what you,
33:34
Speaker 7: know previous presidents before, Him democrat And, republican declined to do.
33:38
Speaker 7: SO i don't like to say never. Again and you
33:40
Speaker 7: just don't know what's going to. HAPPEN i don't know
33:42
Speaker 7: that the breath of The Democratic party are pacifist by any.
33:46
Speaker 7: STRETCH i, mean they're, clearly over the years and my,
33:48
Speaker 7: lifetime have been more suspicious of Projecting american, power more
33:52
Speaker 7: hesitant to Project american power than The. Republicans we saw
33:55
Speaker 7: With President Joe biden, repeatedly you, know warning The israelis
33:59
Speaker 7: and even talking ABOUT us policy in terms of being
34:02
Speaker 7: concerned about, escalation like somehow everybody else is allowed to
34:06
Speaker 7: escalate except for. Us so you, Know i'm not surprised
34:10
Speaker 7: to See democrats opposing everything That President trump, does AND
34:15
Speaker 7: i just think that time will tell in terms of
34:17
Speaker 7: where these parties are.
34:18
Speaker 1: POSITIONED i was On Fox days this. Morning John Fetter
34:22
Speaker 1: meanan was on before me said he would like to
34:25
Speaker 1: see The iranian regime. Destroyed SO i don't want to
34:27
Speaker 1: say All, democrats BUT i Believe John fetterman will be
34:30
Speaker 1: the Only democrat to vote for the supplemental of two
34:34
Speaker 1: hundred billion? Dollars AM i? Wrong will anyone else vote for?
34:37
Speaker 1: That on The democratic?
34:38
Speaker 7: Side IT'S i, mean who, know it's maybe one or,
34:42
Speaker 7: two probably, Not but look we've seen a lot of hesitancy.
34:49
Speaker 8: Over the past ten to twenty.
34:50
Speaker 7: Years, WELL i should say post a rock a rock
34:53
Speaker 7: two thousand and. Three we have seen the political parties
34:57
Speaker 7: hesitant to support another president and war. AIMS i remember
35:02
Speaker 7: during The obama, administration and of course this was a
35:04
Speaker 7: sleight of hand on his, part but he, said, Fine
35:06
Speaker 7: i'll enforce my red line In syria If congress puts
35:09
Speaker 7: it up for a vote And republicans refused to support.
35:12
Speaker 1: It and by the, Way.
35:14
Speaker 7: Senator Tom cotton and Then Congressman Mike pompeo famously wrote
35:20
Speaker 7: a joint op ed, saying, yeah we Oppose obama on
35:23
Speaker 7: basically everything and don't trust, them but we need to
35:26
Speaker 7: enforce An american red. Line so we should all vote
35:28
Speaker 7: for this As, republicans and they were the, minority so you,
35:31
Speaker 7: know some of this is just par for the. Course
35:33
Speaker 7: BUT i don't dispute your larger characterization of Where democrats
35:38
Speaker 7: have been historically on national.
35:39
Speaker 1: Security, yeah AND i think the branding on this is
35:42
Speaker 1: going to last a long. Time they are not going
35:45
Speaker 1: to protect the country and they are not going to
35:46
Speaker 1: protect their. Allies they are. Pacifist you don't agree with That,
35:50
Speaker 1: DAVID i understand that those are my words about The Democratic,
35:53
Speaker 1: party Not DAVID. M, duckers BUT i thank you for joining.
35:56
Speaker 1: Me foul him on. Exit DAVID. M drucker read them
35:58
Speaker 1: in the dispatch and come back to THE uit show
36:01
Speaker 1: for radio affiliates from east to, west north to. South
36:04
Speaker 1: i'm starting this hour With Mike, rogers the Future senator
36:07
Speaker 1: from the great state Of, michigan and he's a FORMER
36:10
Speaker 1: fbi agent, firm member of The, house and for our present,
36:13
Speaker 1: purposes the past chair of The House Intel. Committee Mike,
36:18
Speaker 1: rodgers you know The iran file very very. Well what
36:20
Speaker 1: do you make of the war that we're.
36:22
Speaker 5: In, well it's probably long.
36:26
Speaker 9: Overdue WHAT i think a lot of people don't realize
36:28
Speaker 9: is between twenty three and twenty five they STRUCK us,
36:31
Speaker 9: interests including Killed american service members over two hundred and nineteen.
36:37
Speaker 9: TIMES i think the number was somewhere around. There so
36:40
Speaker 9: they've been at this for a. While back WHEN i
36:42
Speaker 9: left being, Chairman hugh's three parts of a nuclear weapons.
36:47
Speaker 9: Program one is, enrichment one is forming the enriched uranium
36:51
Speaker 9: to fit on top of a, missile and the last
36:53
Speaker 9: part is a missile. Program they had all three of.
36:55
Speaker 9: Those so the big debate back then was how long
36:58
Speaker 9: does it taken to put them all. Together so when
37:00
Speaker 9: you think about how they've escalated contact and doing bad
37:04
Speaker 9: things in The Middle, east paid For hamas to go Into,
37:07
Speaker 9: israel paid for hes blood of fire missiles Into, israel
37:11
Speaker 9: paid for The huthies to attack commercial ships going through The,
37:14
Speaker 9: STRAITS i think this is putting an end to. War
37:18
Speaker 9: and none of this is ever, pleasant none of it
37:20
Speaker 9: is ever. Easy but degrading their capability to do all
37:24
Speaker 9: of those, things a nuclear weapon, program a ballistic missile,
37:28
Speaker 9: program a drone, program mining The, straits their capabilities going
37:33
Speaker 9: after all of the factories that build missiles and drones
37:36
Speaker 9: and other, things that's a huge wind for security in the.
37:41
Speaker 9: Region and if that's the one thing that we get,
37:43
Speaker 9: done which is the president's original state, intent that's a
37:46
Speaker 9: good day for security in the.
37:47
Speaker 1: World, now when you were Running intel and when you
37:51
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37:54
Speaker 1: and the problem we have in The United. States can
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37:59
Speaker 1: time Because democrats don't want to FUND ice even THOUGH
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Speaker 9: I have a hard time reconciling the fact that they're
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Speaker 9: basically shilling for illegal immigrants who are criminals over A
38:15
Speaker 9: us citizen tax being citizens.
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Speaker 5: Who are whose safety may be in.
38:18
Speaker 9: PERIL i don't understand how they could pick a fight
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Speaker 9: like this and look themselves in the.
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Speaker 5: Mirror number.
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Speaker 9: One number, two they shouldn't be paid if they're going
38:28
Speaker 9: to make use pay as a.
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Speaker 5: Weapon guess what you ought to be hurt by that thing.
38:32
Speaker 9: Too you shouldn't be paid if you're a member Of
38:34
Speaker 9: congress in The senate and not funding these, programs especially
38:38
Speaker 9: FOR tsa. Agents they've lost over four hundred. Agents they
38:41
Speaker 9: can't make. It, remember these folks aren't highly, paid and
38:45
Speaker 9: so they're having a hard time paying their. Bills at
38:47
Speaker 9: the end of the, month they had to go find other.
38:48
Speaker 9: Works so we're now we're going to be down another
38:50
Speaker 9: five hundred or four hundred and SOME tsa. Agents some
38:54
Speaker 9: of them were sleeping in their, cars you because they
38:56
Speaker 9: couldn't afford a gas go back and. Forth but they
38:58
Speaker 9: were trying to do the right thing up for. Work
39:00
Speaker 9: others were giving plasma to get money to show up for.
39:04
Speaker 9: Work this is, crazy it's. Dangerous it tells you how
39:07
Speaker 9: RADICAL i think the left has. BECOME i, mean they've
39:10
Speaker 9: been voted last week not to deport illegal immigrants who
39:15
Speaker 9: attack and kick and beat law enforcement. DOGS i, mean
39:20
Speaker 9: this is HOW i JUST i think the left has
39:22
Speaker 9: really lost their.
39:23
Speaker 1: Mind, well let me pray for, You senator Christ murphia
39:26
Speaker 1: will be your colleague in a. Year ON MS now
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Speaker 1: last night With Chris hayes cut number, eight.
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Speaker 8: The negotiation didn't have a path of.
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Speaker 2: Citizenship it was entirely on their terms in order to
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Speaker 10: Right, WELL i, Mean, chris that's been a failed play
39:48
Speaker 10: for twenty. Years so you are right that that has
39:51
Speaker 10: been The democratic strategy for thirty years, maybe and it
39:55
Speaker 10: has failed to deliver for the people we care about,
39:58
Speaker 10: most to the Undocumented americans that are in this.
40:02
Speaker 1: Country all, Right, So Mike, rogers the people we care
40:05
Speaker 1: about the, most the undocumented people who are in this.
40:09
Speaker 1: Country are you going to use that in your? AD
40:11
Speaker 1: i know you're not running Against Chris, murphy but well he.
40:16
Speaker 9: Has he has endorsed one of my opponents for, Sure
40:20
Speaker 9: AND i think all of this is fair. Game WHEN
40:22
Speaker 9: aoc was in the hallway and they filmed the clip
40:25
Speaker 9: of her, saying, hey we have to hurt lower and
40:28
Speaker 9: middle class people the most in order to get where
40:30
Speaker 9: we want to.
40:31
Speaker 5: Go now you Have Chris murphy, saying we care more.
40:35
Speaker 9: About undocumented workers or legal immigrants here in this country
40:40
Speaker 9: than we do citizens who have been here in paying
40:42
Speaker 9: taxes and fighting the good fight in a free market.
40:45
Speaker 5: Economy, boy, again all of, THIS i think is going
40:48
Speaker 5: to be fair.
40:49
Speaker 9: Game and what we have to remember right, now they're
40:51
Speaker 9: trying to have one, card hate On trump and hate
40:54
Speaker 9: Everything trump. Does but you, know we're going to remind
40:57
Speaker 9: people remember what happened in that four. Years fifty percent
41:00
Speaker 9: increase in government, spending nine percent inflation rates where you
41:04
Speaker 9: could really did have to decide between gasoline and. Food
41:08
Speaker 9: the fact that they have raised the national debt so
41:12
Speaker 9: much so fast that now the interest payment is bigger
41:15
Speaker 9: than The department Of. Defense all of, that to me
41:18
Speaker 9: is fair. Game and we're going to have to Remind,
41:20
Speaker 9: americas do you want to go back to. That they're
41:22
Speaker 9: still talking about putting men in girls' locker. Rooms they're
41:25
Speaker 9: still talking about raising your. Taxes now they're even talking
41:28
Speaker 9: about if you own property over seven hundred and fifty
41:31
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41:32
Speaker 5: York guess what the government gets to take the rest of.
41:34
Speaker 5: IT i, mean it is the same.
41:36
Speaker 9: Old, democrats only. Worse and now we've just got to
41:40
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41:41
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41:58
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42:01
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42:02
Speaker 9: Going you, know we get some popcorn together and we
42:07
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42:09
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42:12
Speaker 9: to do positively for the. State this is a huge
42:14
Speaker 9: opportunity In, michigan AND i hope your listeners and viewers
42:18
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42:21
Speaker 9: all three of The democrats who are vying for Their
42:23
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42:27
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42:29
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42:33
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42:38
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42:43
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42:47
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42:50
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42:52
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42:54
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42:57
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42:59
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43:01
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43:04
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43:09
Speaker 9: Month we actually started some even this last, weekend just
43:12
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43:14
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43:16
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43:19
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43:23
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43:25
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Speaker 5: Michigan we have four media, markets so this is going
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Speaker 9: Important and the more we can buy and more our
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Speaker 5: Sixth so that ten dollars is really like one hundred.
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Speaker 9: It and so please don't think for one minute those
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Speaker 9: Country this is not just, yes this is The michigan,
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Speaker 9: seat but this is for the. Country we Win, michigan
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Speaker 9: they can The democrats cannot take back The. Senate really
46:07
Speaker 9: important bottom.
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Speaker 1: Line AND i want to point one more thing. Out
46:10
Speaker 1: when you come back next, time let's talk about Ann.
46:13
Speaker 1: ARBOR i went lived there for three. YEARS i want
46:16
Speaker 1: to know how you're going to attack Ann arbor because
46:19
Speaker 1: there are votes. There they're pretty hard to, find but
46:21
Speaker 1: there are votes. There Mike, rodgers always good to see your.
46:24
Speaker 1: Congressman cannot wait to have you back in The United States.
46:27
Speaker 1: Senate welcome back In. America I'm HUGH Hewittt, Byron New
46:32
Speaker 1: york is the chief political correspondent For The Washington, Examiner
46:35
Speaker 1: Fox news correspondent as well Contributor. BYRON i just had
46:39
Speaker 1: a caller asked me rather unexpectedly in this hour as
46:44
Speaker 1: we approach our two undred and fiftieth. Birthday why DO
46:46
Speaker 1: i Love? AMERICA i came up with two, minutes So
46:49
Speaker 1: i'm going to do it to. You why do you Love?
46:51
Speaker 1: America you came.
46:54
Speaker 11: Up with two full minutes doing it, Well, Yeah nach.
46:57
Speaker 1: In debate and high School byron a minute xt. Time you.
47:00
Speaker 11: KNOW i Love america BECAUSE i was born, here because
47:06
Speaker 11: it has offered me the opportunity to live the life
47:09
Speaker 11: THAT i would want to, live just as it's offered
47:12
Speaker 11: other people to want the opportunity to live to live
47:15
Speaker 11: the lives that they want to. LIVE i Love america
47:19
Speaker 11: because my family has been here for a, long long,
47:23
Speaker 11: time going back lots and lots of. GENERATIONS i Love
47:28
Speaker 11: america because it has a political structure that has survived
47:38
Speaker 11: for long for longer than any other similar political, structure
47:43
Speaker 11: that has created a representational democracy that that actually, works
47:50
Speaker 11: regardless of how many about.
47:52
Speaker 1: It we are very. CLOSE i began by, SAYING i
47:56
Speaker 1: love the fact THAT i can leave tomorrow and go
47:58
Speaker 1: anywhere in the COUNTRY i want to go without anyone's.
48:01
Speaker 1: PERMISSION i can quit a job and take a. JOB
48:03
Speaker 1: i can move around the country. FREELY i can my
48:06
Speaker 1: family can thrive and do whatever they. WANT i love
48:09
Speaker 1: freedom AND i just can't imagine being In iranian getting
48:13
Speaker 1: shot down in the street for. Marching it's really remarkable
48:17
Speaker 1: we get to live. Here so it's a good. Question good. Question, So,
48:22
Speaker 1: Byron i've also been asking do you think the president
48:25
Speaker 1: has been clear in the objectives of this?
48:27
Speaker 11: War you, KNOW i actually wrote about. This we see
48:32
Speaker 11: a lot of polls where people where the poster, says
48:37
Speaker 11: has the president been clear in explaining the goals of
48:41
Speaker 11: the purpose and goals of the, war and you see.
48:43
Speaker 11: Majorities i've seen a lot of numbers around sixty five
48:46
Speaker 11: percent of the people say.
48:47
Speaker 1: No so what does that?
48:49
Speaker 11: Mean, well first of, all the president was not clear
48:52
Speaker 11: at all before he did. It as a matter of,
48:55
Speaker 11: fact the first time he actually starts laying out the
48:58
Speaker 11: purpose of what he's done is in that video that
49:00
Speaker 11: he releases at like two in the morning on the
49:03
Speaker 11: morning of the attack. Itself so he didn't do a build,
49:06
Speaker 11: up he didn't explain it going, in and SO i
49:09
Speaker 11: think that a lot of people still sort of have that.
49:12
Speaker 11: Feeling now since, then the administration is that they've kind
49:16
Speaker 11: of gone over the map a little, bit but they've
49:18
Speaker 11: basically focused on Eliminating iran's ballistic missile, capabilities eliminating their
49:27
Speaker 11: nuclear weapon, capabilities eliminating their ability to fund proxies and
49:37
Speaker 11: recavoc outside their. Borders so this has kind of become
49:42
Speaker 11: the explanation that has been out, there and yet a
49:45
Speaker 11: number of people either haven't gotten, it or or they've
49:50
Speaker 11: heard it and they don't find it entirely. Satisfactory i'm
49:53
Speaker 11: not sure WHAT i think it.
49:54
Speaker 1: IS i don't think that they haven't heard. It they're.
49:57
Speaker 1: NOT i would, add by the, way you always, said
49:59
Speaker 1: we've got to get the new clear, dust and that
50:03
Speaker 1: means the enriched. Uranium and to, me it's not a
50:06
Speaker 1: success unless they get the nuclear, dust even if they're
50:09
Speaker 1: bouncing the, rubble even if there's nothing, left and there's
50:12
Speaker 1: not going to be much left by the end of,
50:13
Speaker 1: IT i don't like the straight of horror. Moves is
50:15
Speaker 1: that difficult of a military, problem Because i've talked to
50:17
Speaker 1: admirals and they tell me it's.
50:19
Speaker 11: Not what do you, think, ACTUALLY i think it's a
50:23
Speaker 11: fairly big military. Problem we're certainly not ready to solve it.
50:27
Speaker 11: Yet so and you don't know What iran is going
50:31
Speaker 11: to do YET i, mean are they going to pull the?
50:33
Speaker 11: Trigger we've talked theoretically about you, know any small water
50:39
Speaker 11: drone can do, This any really small group can can
50:47
Speaker 11: take out a billion dollar. Freighter and The president has
50:50
Speaker 11: said this a lot of times that if you own
50:53
Speaker 11: a billion dollar freighter right, now you're, thinking, well wait a,
50:57
Speaker 11: while we can we can hang out for a. While
50:59
Speaker 11: we don't want to be the first one through. This
51:01
Speaker 11: so What iran is ready to do has not been. Tested.
51:06
Speaker 1: Right have you followed that THE a Ten, warthogs which
51:11
Speaker 1: is the infantry man's, friend have been destroying the proxies
51:16
Speaker 1: Of iran In. Iraq they have a Hesba lah sort Of.
51:21
Speaker 1: Hesbaala it's got three LETTERS pfm or something like THAT
51:24
Speaker 1: fmp that is all Over iraq and they're in camps
51:29
Speaker 1: and the warhogs are just straythen. Them it's like a
51:33
Speaker 1: party for the warhog. People have you been following, that
51:35
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think that's under.
51:37
Speaker 11: Reported i've been following it a little. BIT i meant
51:40
Speaker 11: you're right about the party, part because the warthog is
51:46
Speaker 11: a craft that has a lot of fans and yet
51:50
Speaker 11: always seems to have people who think it's too old
51:53
Speaker 11: and needs to be discontinued and gotten rid of and
51:55
Speaker 11: let's move, on and then it turns out to be
51:59
Speaker 11: extremely valuable and whatever the next conflict. Is, yeah well
52:03
Speaker 11: see now you know it's basically a cannon with, wings
52:08
Speaker 11: a gatling. Gun, yes it's amazing it's a gatling, gun
52:12
Speaker 11: because you think of the gatling gun in The Civil.
52:14
Speaker 11: War but that's basically what it. Is seven hundred rounds
52:17
Speaker 11: a second to some unbelievable amount of firepower in that.
52:21
Speaker 1: Airplane and they've got this proxy organization again three. LETTERS
52:25
Speaker 1: i think IT'S, pmf BUT i can't remember for. SURE
52:28
Speaker 1: i do know WHEN i see it that there has
52:31
Speaker 1: be law In iraq and we're methodically destroying. Those SO
52:35
Speaker 1: i really do think he's doing a number On iran
52:38
Speaker 1: and they's not going to be much left. Now the
52:41
Speaker 1: bad news they promoted the hardest of the hardliner to
52:45
Speaker 1: the Lar jani, job a guy who was a veteran
52:48
Speaker 1: of The Iran Iraq war eighty to eighty. Eight hard,
52:50
Speaker 1: bitten you, know walk through the minefield type of. Guy
52:53
Speaker 1: they're not really sending forward the envoys of peace and.
52:57
Speaker 1: Love i'm not an opt to miss about negotiations for
53:01
Speaker 1: three or four weeks and it might be a couple of.
53:03
Speaker 1: Months are you an? Optimist, No i'm.
53:06
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53:09
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53:13
Speaker 11: he's saying, is if we can just find the right
53:15
Speaker 11: person to deal WITH, uh then then we can really go.
53:19
Speaker 11: Forward we don't have to completely eliminate this. Regime we
53:23
Speaker 11: can go forward with people who will work with us
53:25
Speaker 11: and the change of run in the. Future that's A venezuela.
53:28
Speaker 11: Model Now i'm not an expert on these, things BUT
53:32
Speaker 11: i think there's a difference between dealing with kleptocrats and
53:38
Speaker 11: dealing with, martyrs you know. Exactly and then In iran
53:44
Speaker 11: you're dealing with people who sort of perfected the suicide.
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Speaker 1: states not so. Much are you surprised by how little
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Speaker 1: we're kind of following the?
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Speaker 8: WAR i am very much. SO i remember My Gold
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Speaker 8: center there is The First Golf war where it was.
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Speaker 8: Constant it was twenty four to. Seven it seemed there's
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Speaker 8: always breaking gongs and breaking news and flags flopping across the,
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Speaker 8: screen and it seemed as if it occupied the entirety
57:11
Speaker 8: of The american. Imagination you, know The Second Golf, war
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Speaker 8: same thing pretty. Much but this just has oddly receded
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Speaker 8: to a series, of you, know headlines that are maybe
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Speaker 8: two or three times down when you go to Your
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Speaker 8: google news, piece because you, know the first we've Got
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Speaker 8: Taylor swift AND i was his new, tour and then below,
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Speaker 8: that you KNOW radi AN ircg headquartered bomb into atoms
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Speaker 8: for the seventeen consecutive. Days it's, inexplicable, Really and Maybe
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Speaker 8: i'm just not looking close. Enough maybe if there was
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Speaker 8: such a thing as, newspapers which don't seem to exist
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Speaker 8: very much in, perfusion it would be there as batter
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Speaker 8: headlines every. Day but even, SO i tend to think
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Speaker 8: that it would recede. IT i find it odd that
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Speaker 8: The american imagination is not fired by this in a
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Speaker 8: way that it previously. Has AND i don't know when
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Speaker 8: to describe.
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Speaker 1: That to how you use the success of The american,
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Speaker 1: military as far as you understand, it you don't have both.
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Speaker 1: Civilians we don't really know what they're. Doing we just,
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Speaker 1: Watch so how do you describe what you're?
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Speaker 8: Seeing, well part of it, IS i, mean it used
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Speaker 8: to be that we would be awed by the site
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Speaker 8: of The tomahawk missile going through the window and a
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Speaker 8: couple of guys, startled look, up and then it's. Static
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Speaker 8: so we got used to that an awful long time.
58:23
Speaker 8: Ago we got used to endless number of little videos
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Speaker 8: in Our twitter. Feed when that came along of things
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Speaker 8: blooming the night and, exploding, well we don't. Have the
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Speaker 8: only innovation there seems to be in this one is
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Speaker 8: the breaking of the spine of An iranian. Ship that
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Speaker 8: was something that was quite. Novel but we're used to.
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Speaker 8: Perfection it seems like we're so used to perfection and
58:47
Speaker 8: an absolute lack of casualties that when a plane does
58:49
Speaker 8: go down a bit, startled things like, Oh barksdale got
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Speaker 8: swarmed by some drones don't seem to cause the fear
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Speaker 8: and penning that they might because we have this general
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Speaker 8: feeling we have, this and we also have one of
59:02
Speaker 8: the most lethal and effective partners that we've ever had no.
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Speaker 8: War so, again there's no triumphalism. Here there's no great
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Speaker 8: sense of we're just kicking, ass kicking, button taking. Names
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Speaker 8: BUT i guess now we're bored with how good we,
59:18
Speaker 8: are which is.
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Speaker 1: US i don't think we. ARE i think that the
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Speaker 1: media has been taken over by a left wing cadre,
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Speaker 1: legacy big media that doesn't really Want america to kick,
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Speaker 1: button take names and win decisively over the course of two.
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Speaker 1: Months BECAUSE i see defeatism in the military and almost
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Speaker 1: every story there's a twist to it that makes it
59:40
Speaker 1: sound like it's not going as well as it should.
59:42
Speaker 1: Be and, boy The straits of Where, moses it's not
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Speaker 1: The battle of The, atlantic thirty five hundred ships went.
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Speaker 1: Down i'm just extraordinarily sunned by what people consider to Be,
59:54
Speaker 1: yeah The straits, closed we pay a little bit more for.
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Speaker 1: Gas that's not what our parents put up.
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Speaker 8: WITH i agree that the media has THIS defeati sit
1:00:03
Speaker 8: into it and has always had this. DEFEATISTOTE i remember
1:00:06
Speaker 8: during The First Gulf war that there was a shot
1:00:08
Speaker 8: before they went to a commercial of a pilot landing
1:00:10
Speaker 8: and they played this, sad sodden, music this sort of
1:00:14
Speaker 8: echoee trumpet minor key patents soundtrack, stuff as the pilot's
1:00:18
Speaker 8: had dipped down like, this and the feeling you were
1:00:20
Speaker 8: supposed to get was that he was burdened by the
1:00:23
Speaker 8: enormity of his mission and the destruction and the senselessness
1:00:26
Speaker 8: of it, all when he's probably just looking at a
1:00:27
Speaker 8: checklist or flipping something. Off but they slow mode and
1:00:30
Speaker 8: make it sound defeated and full of unst and the
1:00:32
Speaker 8: rest of. It So i'm used to, That but that's
1:00:35
Speaker 8: different FROM i mean if people were out there clamoring for,
1:00:38
Speaker 8: more if people were out there actually wanting, more you
1:00:41
Speaker 8: would think that elements in the media would be smart
1:00:43
Speaker 8: enough to, Say, hey this is what we can do for.
1:00:44
Speaker 8: Ratings we can start giving them, more we can stop
1:00:46
Speaker 8: putting a negative spin on. Everyone you would think, so
1:00:49
Speaker 8: but there. Isn't i'm not sure that there necessarily is
1:00:52
Speaker 8: that clamor of the media because what people want they
1:00:55
Speaker 8: can generally get from social, media and it may not
1:00:57
Speaker 8: always be. RIGHT i, mean people who were fell for
1:01:01
Speaker 8: a line about the head of the the IR gc
1:01:05
Speaker 8: bugging out For, london and it was obvious from the guy's.
1:01:08
Speaker 8: Name it was almost like an under the bleacher By
1:01:10
Speaker 8: Seymour butt's kind of. Name it was one of those
1:01:12
Speaker 8: names and people fell for. It so the single noise
1:01:16
Speaker 8: ratio can get a little.
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Speaker 1: Bad on the one true, STORY i want to know
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Speaker 1: if you saw, it because you're, observant The ukrainians hit
1:01:24
Speaker 1: a gas facility In russia that was thousand miles. AWAY i,
1:01:28
Speaker 1: mean it was so far. Away no one Ever they're
1:01:31
Speaker 1: doing amazing stuff and we're not. Covering we used to
1:01:34
Speaker 1: love The. Ukrainians what happened? There, oh they were not
1:01:38
Speaker 1: the next. Best they're not the greatest thing.
1:01:40
Speaker 8: Anymore it Was ukraine was the latest, thing and Then
1:01:43
Speaker 8: ice was latest, thing and now this is the latest.
1:01:45
Speaker 8: Thing except it seems seems to be going. Well and
1:01:48
Speaker 8: since it's off, stage the usual people who get spun
1:01:51
Speaker 8: up and go downtown with the pre printed little slogans
1:01:53
Speaker 8: and wave them around aren't. Engaged and that's. GOOD i,
1:01:58
Speaker 8: mean the fact that we have not had that as
1:02:00
Speaker 8: many of the inorganic here's your poster go out there
1:02:03
Speaker 8: and yell. Situations that's probably. Good but you're. RIGHT i,
1:02:07
Speaker 8: mean there are Two titanic conflicts.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: Going on right.
1:02:10
Speaker 8: Now ukraine is one of. Them even though it's been
1:02:12
Speaker 8: a long time and it's dragging and it's a meat.
1:02:14
Speaker 8: Grinder they've been pounding and kicking butt on on The
1:02:16
Speaker 8: Eastern front and the attempts to stabilize and replace the
1:02:21
Speaker 8: regime Of. Iran these are big, struggles extraordinary, struggles and
1:02:25
Speaker 8: you would, think, yes that they, would they would occupy
1:02:28
Speaker 8: the public mind and as such be reflected in the.
1:02:30
Speaker 8: Media but because they're not reflected in the, MEDIA i
1:02:33
Speaker 8: think it's partially a reflection of the fact that a
1:02:35
Speaker 8: lot of, people for whatever reason just aren't as invaded
1:02:40
Speaker 8: in this as they have been. Previously that might be
1:02:42
Speaker 8: just my, take but that's WHAT i. Get if we, lose.
1:02:47
Speaker 1: If we lose our capacity to recognize world historical, events
1:02:50
Speaker 1: AND i don't use that phrase, Lightly, Russia ukraine and
1:02:54
Speaker 1: the war Against iran are both world historical. Events will
1:02:59
Speaker 1: we have the ability to ever really understand proportionality and? News?
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Speaker 8: AH i don't. KNOW i mean we look back and
1:03:08
Speaker 8: we see united. Cultures we see people that, were you,
1:03:10
Speaker 8: know shoulder to shoulder, marching doing their victory gardens and
1:03:13
Speaker 8: the rest of. It but there was domestic. Discord there
1:03:16
Speaker 8: were people who just paid it no. Mind there you,
1:03:18
Speaker 8: know before the war and in the run up to,
1:03:19
Speaker 8: it it was all in the, air but there were
1:03:21
Speaker 8: people who did not want to face the titanic nature
1:03:24
Speaker 8: of the class that was. Coming so, retroactively it may
1:03:27
Speaker 8: look better than it actually, was but probably you're, right
1:03:30
Speaker 8: not like it is. Today we need to be reminded
1:03:33
Speaker 8: that this is, thing and that's where the bully pulpit comes.
1:03:35
Speaker 8: IN i wish there was more bully pulpitism where we
1:03:37
Speaker 8: were getting, strong, decisive concisive speeches about what's going. On
1:03:42
Speaker 8: and in the absence of, that perhaps that's. People perhaps
1:03:44
Speaker 8: people concluded it's just it's it's not as. Important if it,
1:03:47
Speaker 8: was we'd be hearing bully pulpit speeches more than we.
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Speaker 1: ARE i, HOPE i hope they're coming. Back JAMES, lylyx thank.
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