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Should Saints Sign Marquez Valdes-Scantling To Extension? | Did New Orleans Find Under The Radar WR? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: Saints head into there by when they come back, look
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  Speaker 1: forward to seeing Marcus Valdez scantling back on the field.
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  Speaker 1: What an impact he's made six catches, three of them
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  Speaker 1: deep touchdowns. Been pretty awesome to see. Muse you ran
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  Speaker 1: this by me today and said, you know, what do
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  Speaker 1: they do with with Valdas scanning? What prompted that that
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  Speaker 1: made you want to think about that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, just mainly because I mean it's wild the success
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  Speaker 2: he's had Immediately with Derek Carr on the field, you're
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  Speaker 2: pretty much tied to Car for at least one more year.
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  Speaker 2: He's a free agent. He is thirty years old. But
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  Speaker 2: culture he's a culture fit in the locker room, guy
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  Speaker 2: who's been on Super Bowl teams and a veteran presence
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  Speaker 2: who immediately is just come in and fit.
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  Speaker 1: But there was nothing that prompted this, Like nothing happened
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  Speaker 1: that made you think, like what do they do with
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  Speaker 1: about Marcus VELAs scantling? Like you didn't see a news
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  Speaker 1: story or anything. No, okay, just about with the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so here's the interesting thing, huh. I think you were
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  Speaker 1: asking it, like do they on into a long term deal?
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  Speaker 1: What would you say is a what would you define
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  Speaker 1: as a long term deal.
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  Speaker 2: Three years.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's zero shot he gets a three
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  Speaker 1: year contract a couple of reasons. First of all, that
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned he's thirty. Yeah, you're not going to give
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  Speaker 1: a three year deal to someone who is on a
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  Speaker 1: kind of a plug and play deal right now, who
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  Speaker 1: is on the street. If you're going to offer someone
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  Speaker 1: a three year contract, there's gonna be a there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be competition. Is there any competition for Marcos Velde Scanley?
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  Speaker 2: That's something's gonna be really interesting to see, because you,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, he's on the street. People didn't think
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  Speaker 2: he could play. Now they see him playing as well
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  Speaker 2: as he is, even at thirty. I think he could
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  Speaker 2: get some competition, but I don't know what, how how
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  Speaker 2: heavy that competition is, If that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's anybody willing to offer him
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  Speaker 1: that type of deal, is the point. So so I
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  Speaker 1: went and looked up his deals. So is rookie dealing
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay? Then he signed a three year, thirty million
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  Speaker 1: dollar contract in Kansas City. That contract was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: run him through twenty twenty four, but they cut him.
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  Speaker 1: So they cut him entering the final year of that contract,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the guy who'd been on two Super Bowl teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah with them now, so they cut him. Entering this year,
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  Speaker 1: he goes to Buffalo. He had signed a the deal
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  Speaker 1: that he had signed with Buffalo is a one year
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  Speaker 1: deal worth two and a quarter. So I would argue
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  Speaker 1: before this season he had great value. Right, he's on
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  Speaker 1: the team with Mahomes. They went back to back Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 1: but Kansas City didn't resign him and he only had
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  Speaker 1: a one year deal. Basically, think of in the same
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  Speaker 1: terms as like Willie Gay, Right, the Saints were able
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  Speaker 1: to sign to a one year proved deal or Chase
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  Speaker 1: Hung different because he had battled injuries, but a one
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  Speaker 1: year proven deal. So if that's all he got, and
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  Speaker 1: then not even halfway through the season, Buffalo Kansam and
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  Speaker 1: he's sitting on the street. The Saints have the injury
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  Speaker 1: to Shahid, they sign him. There's a big difference whenever
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  Speaker 1: there's a market for a player and then teams clamor
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  Speaker 1: for him. If there was a market for him, Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: would have cut it, they would have traded him. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's really a market for Markus Valdez
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  Speaker 1: Scantling beyond what he is. We'll get right back to
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  Speaker 1: I think is this, he and Rashid chi Heater are
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  Speaker 1: essentially the same player, right, essentially, Yes, they're both your
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  Speaker 1: stretch the field deep threat. So the Saints signed Shaheed
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  Speaker 1: to a tw year deal, but the second year is voided.
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  Speaker 1: Basically they did that just to spread cap money because.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they right, yeah, course checks out.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like a one year five ahead of here,
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  Speaker 1: it's one year one point to do this right, one
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  Speaker 1: year five point two million dollar deal where they could
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  Speaker 1: spread the cap hit, so like four and a quarter
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  Speaker 1: or four point four to five go into next year
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  Speaker 1: because of course whatever. So the point is Shaheed's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be on the team next year. I'm pretty confident of
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  Speaker 1: that because of because of the contract. So do you
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  Speaker 1: have room for Shaheed and for Marcus Valdez Scambling? And
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  Speaker 1: if you do, what does that deal look like for scanting?
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  Speaker 1: So the deal Buffalo did for him was one year,
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  Speaker 1: two and a quarter million. Now MVS is with the
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  Speaker 1: Saints at one year, it's like one in a quarter.
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  Speaker 1: That's quarter no. One one point one two five. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so one point one two five. So if I could
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  Speaker 1: sign Marco's Valdez scamtling for twenty twenty five on that
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  Speaker 1: deal one year, let's call it one in a quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Let's give him, let's give him the extra the extra
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  Speaker 1: ten ken like or well I guess eighty, give him
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  Speaker 1: another hundred gand whatever. Yeah, I would do that. Clearly,
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  Speaker 1: he's proven worth there. But what I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do at all, and this isn't just with Marcos Valdez Scantley,
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  Speaker 1: this is with every deal the Saints do. I do
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  Speaker 1: not want to sign old players, expensive players, to long
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  Speaker 1: term deals, like you just can't do that anymore. You've
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  Speaker 1: completely screwed your salary cap situation by doing things like this.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm thrilled with him. Through two games. Been awesome. Man,
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  Speaker 1: clearly still has wheels, can stretch the field, but so
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  Speaker 1: can she heat. And when Shehat was healthy and car
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  Speaker 1: were healthy, like that was the combination early in the season.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got your heat under contract. You he's younger,
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  Speaker 1: he'll be here next year. I mean, I think if
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  Speaker 1: Marcos valadis scantling plays his way into the market and
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  Speaker 1: there is competition for me, you can get a better
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  Speaker 1: deal somewhere else. Good for him. I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: that that market's gonna be there for thirty You said
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  Speaker 1: he'll be thirty one, when.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he'll be thirty one to the start of
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  Speaker 2: next year.
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  Speaker 1: So October. He turned thirty on October the tenth, So
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  Speaker 1: he'll turn thirty one in October, like week five. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like I just I look at him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thrilled with the production you've gotten. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a very pleasant surprise. I don't think any of us
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  Speaker 1: thought it would be this, where he has been such
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  Speaker 1: an incredible deep threat. But I also look and I go.
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  Speaker 1: What I want the New Orleans Saints to do is
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  Speaker 1: go find me another Rashi Shaheed. Go find me another
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  Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent that's gonna be dirt cheap that
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  Speaker 1: you can get reps out of. And you know what,
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  Speaker 1: They're not gonna win big with a guy like.
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  Speaker 2: That, because.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna when big. You just have to accept
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this is what you are right now
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  Speaker 1: until you can fix your cap situation so where you
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  Speaker 1: can be competitive in free agency. But most importantly, man,
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  Speaker 1: you got to hit in the draft. He's like, you've
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  Speaker 1: you traded Latim or you got more draft capital your gut.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're gonna get more draft capital as well
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  Speaker 1: as we see with the compensatory picks come along and
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  Speaker 1: how that happens. But you you've got to make the
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  Speaker 1: most out of your draft capital and hit in this
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  Speaker 1: draft so you can get younger and more affordable as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to getting older and more expensive. It was why
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like the Kamara deal. It's not that I
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  Speaker 1: don't love Alvin Kamara. I love Alvin Kamara. He's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: He shows you he's still got something left in the tank.
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  Speaker 1: But you extended a thirty year old running back for
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  Speaker 1: three years and or two years, like, that's the problem
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  Speaker 1: I have, Like you, you got older and more expensive,
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  Speaker 1: when inherently you need to get younger and more affordable.
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  Speaker 1: So you wanna reaing about Marcus Valdez scaling on a
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  Speaker 1: one year deal. At one point at wanted a quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, I'm all for it. Anything beyond that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Do you disagree you give him a longer
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  Speaker 1: term deal? No?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, that's the thing I actually don't. I don't disagree
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  Speaker 2: with you at all. They need to get younger. They've
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  Speaker 2: started to already try to get younger. The thing was
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  Speaker 2: that I found so interesting was just the scenario around him,
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  Speaker 2: because I think if he plays continues on this trajectory
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  Speaker 2: he's on that there will be at least some type
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  Speaker 2: of market for him, maybe not three years. You just
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  Speaker 2: asked him what I would consider long term, So I
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  Speaker 2: gave you three years. But so just the sitt because
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  Speaker 2: you've been looking so hard for a number three option.
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  Speaker 2: The scenario around him is interesting. Did you stumble into one?
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  Speaker 2: Is kind of what prompted it to go back to
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  Speaker 2: your original.
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  Speaker 1: Question, Maybe the bigger question is what happens to Chris
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  Speaker 1: lave Yeah, is his career over? And I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be presumptive. I'm not saying it is, but there's
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  Speaker 1: at least a conversation around a guy that has this
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  Speaker 1: concussion history, who's now it sounds like going to be
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  Speaker 1: shut down for the rest of the year. What is
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  Speaker 1: his future? And that may be a bigger question that
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  Speaker 1: you address in the draft and with other assets as
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  Speaker 1: you move into the twenty twenty five