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INTERVIEW: Jeezy Talks 'Legend of The Snowman' Vegas Residency, His Best Eras, Evolving As An Artist + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 3: Welcome, top of the tib whatever.
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Speaker 1: Morning.
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Speaker 3: How you feeling man? Amazing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't seen the show yet. We we schedule
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Speaker 2: to go out and see the show, but it looks
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Speaker 2: amazing so much. So how does it feel putting on
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Speaker 2: your own production, doing your own show, handling expenses, profits, losses?
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Speaker 3: How did that feel? That's that's different. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: know my former job are handling expenses, okay, putting together
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Speaker 3: my own show. I mean, you know, I just think
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Speaker 3: the culture kind of got caught up in hustling and
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Speaker 3: we forgot about the all form, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: So we'll just running around get money, and it just
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Speaker 3: got redundant. Man, you know what I'm saying. I love
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Speaker 3: what I do and I was just like, I just
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Speaker 3: wanted to do something great for culture, for our people.
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Speaker 3: Like I feel like when people spend their money, they
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Speaker 3: should see they should have an experience. You know what
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Speaker 3: I mean. Time people came to the show and saw
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Speaker 3: me with a microphone. You know what I'm saying. Shout
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Speaker 3: out to DJs. You know he's the greatest. But what
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Speaker 3: we do, brother, so me and DJ can do alone.
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Speaker 3: And Las Vegas to me is like you know, it's Sinatra,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's just like when
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Speaker 3: you're on that stage and you in Las Vegas. That's special.
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Speaker 3: But especially for it to be black tie, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because I feel like we as adults
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Speaker 3: and the people that you know made it to the
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Speaker 3: other side, we deserve to be able to go take
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Speaker 3: our you know, our spouse person, enjoy his show, look nice,
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Speaker 3: make it a weekend. Like you said, go pull up
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Speaker 3: on Mary, pull up on Jezus right, and enjoy yourself
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Speaker 3: and not worry about stepping on nobody's shoe. You know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And if you do, it might be
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Speaker 3: a red bottom and usual. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: You know we're supposed to be there. But to answer
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Speaker 3: your question, man, this is probably the greatest It's probably
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Speaker 3: the greatest season in my career. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: because I'm able to express myself, I'm able to put
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Speaker 3: something together that's special, you know what I'm saying. Even
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Speaker 3: you know, my peers, you know, are very impressed what's
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Speaker 3: going on because it took you know, some risk, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and some and like you said,
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Speaker 3: some privacy and losses. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: it's all worth it us for culture. And you know,
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Speaker 3: if you start seeing the legend of the snow man,
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Speaker 3: they got to be legend there. You can't even play
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Speaker 3: with that, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: So do you prefer a residency overturn right now?
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Speaker 3: In my life? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because
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Speaker 3: you know, with a residency is it's so you can
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Speaker 3: put together this this ecosystem of this atmosphere and it's
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Speaker 3: your atmosphere, you know what I'm saying. And people travel,
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Speaker 3: you know, it just it's more of an experience than
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Speaker 3: me coming to your town and just popping out. You
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It comes to your town, you
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Speaker 3: pop out. You know, we've been doing that for decades.
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Speaker 3: But it's just like when you get somebody from Memphis
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Speaker 3: to come all the way to Vegas. You know, get
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Speaker 3: a tucks, you know what I'm saying, and pay and
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Speaker 3: enjoy themselves. And it's dope because even like the club
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Speaker 3: vision experience to me is like with DJ Drama DJ
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Speaker 3: A's and that's something I really want to do because
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Speaker 3: that's something I had to fight for and you know
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Speaker 3: you can't you just coming to Atlanta back in eight
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Speaker 3: you know, you know what that was like club visions,
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Speaker 3: but just hearing that nostalgic music that you grew up
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Speaker 3: on from two of the best DJs. You see these
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Speaker 3: grown people in that dancing. Man, I'm in a good time,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Before the show even stars. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's a different era you grew up on, and to me,
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Speaker 3: that's all a part of the experience, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. And to answer your question absolutely, when I
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Speaker 3: think about residencies, you know, and me and Celo was
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Speaker 3: talking about this the other day, it was just like,
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Speaker 3: you know a lot of people feel like that's where
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Speaker 3: artists go to die Vegas. That's not true. That's what
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Speaker 3: they told us because they didn't want us out there,
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Speaker 3: and that's why I wanted to get out there, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. On my own dime on my
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Speaker 3: own time, because I know they didn't want us out there.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other day. Could artists
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Speaker 2: do a residency in their hometown?
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Speaker 3: Meaning absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Did you do in Atlanta?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely not?
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Speaker 1: And why not?
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Speaker 3: Because it's it's people. Could I could do birthday bads?
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Speaker 3: It's about it, you know what I'm saying. One night,
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It ain't like that because
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Speaker 3: you know, you home and most of them cats go
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Speaker 3: to see you somewhere on the weekend, you know, if
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Speaker 3: it's just at a restaurant or something. So they're like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: we you know, we pull up on them one time,
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Speaker 3: but nobody's coming to that, you know. And I thought
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Speaker 3: about that before. You know what I'm saying. And but
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Speaker 3: Las Vegas is a destination, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Atlanta used to be a destination. I hope they own
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Them take that the wrong way,
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Speaker 3: But Atlanta used to be Atlanta. You came to Atlanta,
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Speaker 3: you stay, you know, you come to Atlanta for you know,
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Speaker 3: a weekend, you end up staying six months. You know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It ain't like that no more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think is the best era of Jeez?
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Speaker 4: Being that you've been out here doing these residencies and
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Speaker 4: you see how people respond to different parts of your catalog,
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Speaker 4: what's the best era of Jez's music?
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Speaker 3: I think five when it dropped and now because it's
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Speaker 3: refined and I mean that, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: like even in my spirit, like how I kick it,
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Speaker 3: It's refined and I'm focused and I enjoy it, and
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Speaker 3: five is the last time I enjoyed it, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Everything in between it was kind of
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Speaker 3: a blur, if you know what I mean. Like five
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Speaker 3: in the beginning, when it was new, it was fresh,
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Speaker 3: and you know, fast forward to you know, twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 3: it feels new and fresh again. You know what I'm
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Speaker 3: saying when you're looking at those faces and people actually
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Speaker 3: coming there and enjoying themselves because you know, it's been
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Speaker 3: you know, in between. You know, I don't really know
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Speaker 3: if people enjoyed shows. I think they came, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I think they showed up, but I
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Speaker 3: don't think they enjoyed it, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: On how it was when Hoping was doing Summer jam
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Speaker 3: like that was different, you know than probably a show somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying as a GZ connoisseur, as
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Speaker 4: a person who has GZ is one of their favorite
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Speaker 4: rappers of all time.
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Speaker 3: I received that, I got a top seven. I don't
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Speaker 3: want to actually what number one, man, but I received.
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Speaker 5: Them no more.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think any one of them could be
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Speaker 1: my number one and any given moment.
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Speaker 4: So for me, it's jay Z, Nas, scar Face, t I,
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Speaker 4: g Z, Killer Mike, and ghost Face.
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Speaker 1: That's my seven fact.
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Speaker 4: But I feel like that Recession era and that TM
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Speaker 4: one on three era, especially the one on three era
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Speaker 4: very slept on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get into.
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Speaker 3: That, well, Recession to me was my best album. I
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Speaker 3: would agree, you know what I'm saying, that's when I
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Speaker 3: really wrote TM one on three. I think it took me.
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Speaker 3: It took me almost three years right there. Not because
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Speaker 3: it wasn't done, because I just was trying to make
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Speaker 3: something perfect and I learned very quickly perfection ain't the way.
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Speaker 1: But you got some that's a class forgot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Talk about wading Yeah, you know, way too gone way
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Speaker 4: to the joint.
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Speaker 1: With Trick Daddy. I used to have nothing whole. There's
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Speaker 1: some joints on that man.
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Speaker 3: But that's the that's the beauty of you know, the residency.
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Speaker 3: You get to hear all that.
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Speaker 2: How do you decide what what songs you perform?
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Speaker 1: Because you gotta.
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Speaker 3: So what makes the residency dope is it's almost like
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Speaker 3: a So it feels like a player, if you will,
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Speaker 3: because it's acts sack, you know, it's three acts. You know,
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Speaker 3: the man, the myth, the legend, and that's how you
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Speaker 3: break up the songs. And it's dope because it's just
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Speaker 3: like you know, you would think way too gone would
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Speaker 3: be a legend, but it's not the myth.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, how did you come up with those
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Speaker 1: three categories? Man?
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Speaker 3: It's the truth? No man, Yeah, the man, the myth,
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Speaker 3: the legend. And this is the thing. It all reverted
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Speaker 3: back the man, the myth, the legends. So the soul
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Speaker 3: starts off with the man because that's who I am,
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Speaker 3: that's who I evolved. You you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So it's just like, you know, then you get to
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Speaker 3: break it down. The myth was when he was trying
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Speaker 3: to figure it out, and the legend ones when he
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Speaker 3: came out the box. You know what I mean, trap
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Speaker 3: or die? Uh you know, uh, get your mind right,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean that time.
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Speaker 4: So we're going we're going backwards. You gotta give me
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Speaker 4: some track. What's the man track?
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Speaker 1: Let's give me just a couple of don't give up,
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Speaker 1: you go ahead, but put.
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Speaker 3: It his way. It used to have nothing in the man.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. And then the myth is what recession?
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Speaker 3: It's different? Is you gotta you gotta come see it.
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Speaker 3: And I need a real review when you come back
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Speaker 3: to the show, can break the down you know what,
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Speaker 3: I'm from him?
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Speaker 6: And even though like when you first rolled out all
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Speaker 6: of the residency and like it was very cinematic and
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Speaker 6: there's a lot of storytelling. I mean, you've been a
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Speaker 6: storyteller through your music, but now I feel like we're
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Speaker 6: also just getting you, like hearing you talk interviews, share
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Speaker 6: your story.
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Speaker 5: What's been freeing for you about being able to do
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Speaker 5: that in this area.
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Speaker 3: Your limitation, Yeah, that's first and foremost. It's first and foremost,
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Speaker 3: you know, I would say, just being you know, just
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Speaker 3: going through your trials and tribulations. You know, y'all saw
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Speaker 3: me go through all types of things, you know, throughout
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Speaker 3: my career and my life. A lot of things I dies,
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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of things I give to God.
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Speaker 3: You know a lot of things that you know, I
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Speaker 3: just had to work around. But I think what you're
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Speaker 3: seeing is me being one hundred percent myself apologetically, like
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Speaker 3: unapologetically myself, like meaning that I don't I don't play
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Speaker 3: that game no more. You know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 3: I have something to say, so I gotta say it.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like a mistakesman. At
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Speaker 3: this point, I've been I've been to you know, I've
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Speaker 3: been to all the wars you know, Vietnam, Oka now
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Speaker 3: or whatever you name it. I've been there and survived them.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, I gotta say what needs
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Speaker 3: to be said because I don't really think nobody care
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Speaker 3: like that no more. If I'm honesty, because they like
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Speaker 3: you know, everybody's caught up in the status, to the money.
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Speaker 3: But I don't really think people care about the culture.
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Speaker 3: If I'm honest, I don't. I don't see nobody out
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Speaker 3: here pushing it. I don't see nobody standing for it.
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Speaker 3: I see it's just like you being in the street,
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Speaker 3: like how you're gonna let all the little homies go
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Speaker 3: to prison and get killed. It's crazy. You got to
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Speaker 3: put them to decide to have a conversation. So these
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Speaker 3: are the conversations for the people that want to hear,
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Speaker 3: and then for the people like ourselves that are already there.
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Speaker 3: It's the encouragement to keep going, like it's okay. It's
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Speaker 3: okay to evolve, it's okay to be you, it's okay
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Speaker 3: to think outside the box. You ain't got to feel
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Speaker 3: no way because that ain't cool, because it is, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, That's how that's how I live,
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Speaker 3: because it's just like you know, at first, over talking
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Speaker 3: was not cool, and doing interviews was not cool. It's
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Speaker 3: like interrogation, you know what I mean. Times I didn't
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Speaker 3: want to come to breakfast club. I thought y'all was
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Speaker 3: going to ask me about something that is happy to
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Speaker 3: do the streets.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: It's just like I can't answer that. But it's different,
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Speaker 3: you know, because I don't got nothing going on out there.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just you know, I'm just you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm just standing in line with my purpose and doing
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Speaker 3: what I do best. But to me, you know, to
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Speaker 3: answer your question. And I really think that this is important.
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Speaker 3: This matters, and the only way to really connect with
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Speaker 3: people is authenticity. You know what I'm saying. Just being
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Speaker 3: you now?
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Speaker 2: Was the vision always this because even years ago you
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Speaker 2: were heavy into you know, everybody dress up and come
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Speaker 2: on out like that was your thing for a long time.
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Speaker 2: And you've seen all this follow but was that division
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Speaker 2: from the beginning You was like, naw, I'm a schedule
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Speaker 2: because I want people to dress up, I want people
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Speaker 2: to come out. I want them to come out as
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Speaker 2: a couple. And you've been doing it for years ago, right, well, we'll.
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Speaker 3: Also I looked at it like this. I looked at
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Speaker 3: it like you know, because even when we should do
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Speaker 3: the all black parties, all white parties, it was getting
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Speaker 3: people excited, you know what I'm saying. And as you
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Speaker 3: get into that era of like, you know, I'm putting
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Speaker 3: on clothes now, you wouldn't invite everybody out to do
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Speaker 3: it because it you know, like I said, you know,
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Speaker 3: the only time he really wore suits was too you know,
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Speaker 3: funerals in court. You know what I'm saying. I had one,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But I have several now
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Speaker 3: and It's like, there's nothing like seeing a grown man
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Speaker 3: with his girl in one of these shows, feeling good,
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Speaker 3: looking good. You got this tux heter on. You know,
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Speaker 3: they gonna come to the show, they might cass dinner after.
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Speaker 3: But he's he's in that space, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: He feels like you know, and you know, like anybody know,
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Speaker 3: when you put on the suit, you feel, you feel accomplished.
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Speaker 3: And for me, it's just like I want to share that,
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Speaker 3: you know, just like I want to share the music
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Speaker 3: I listen to. I want to shit a few food
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Speaker 3: did I get on? I want to share the wine
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Speaker 3: did I drink? Because that's all the part of evolution.
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Speaker 3: You got to put people on, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: And for me, it's just like I want to make
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Speaker 3: it cool. I made a conscious decision I wouldn't getting
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Speaker 3: I told the team, I'm not getting on the stage
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Speaker 3: at all this year. If I'm not in the tuxedo,
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Speaker 3: I ain't doing nobody's show. He'll come to Vegas. That's it,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because that's that's how I
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Speaker 3: want to present myself. This is the eraror that I'm
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Speaker 3: in and it's just like I don't want enough Dickie
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Speaker 3: suits for everybody. Man, it's time.
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Speaker 4: Saying what part of your old mentality helped you become successful,
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Speaker 4: but would hurt you if you still held onto it today?
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Speaker 3: Survival? You know what I'm saying. I've always been a survivor.
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Speaker 3: And you know, without signing to preaching, man, you know
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Speaker 3: like abundance is real, boy, that it's man. When when
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Speaker 3: that when that life force changed and that spirit change,
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Speaker 3: survivor ran everything away from me that I should have
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Speaker 3: had a long time ago because I was guarded. I
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Speaker 3: didn't trust, you know what I'm saying. I was rough
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Speaker 3: around the edge, you know, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: But over time, you know what I'm saying. You know,
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Speaker 3: when I started to you know, just work through that,
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Speaker 3: all the stuff that I ever want that came to me.
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Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was just like I would get
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Speaker 3: calls from people that it's weird, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: It's just like I would get calls from people that
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Speaker 3: I wanted to either work with or you know, co
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Speaker 3: collab on something or do business. When it was just
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Speaker 3: called be like, hey, man, how you doing next time
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Speaker 3: you're in town? Won't you hit me up? And at first,
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Speaker 3: you know, it was I'm like they trying to trick
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Speaker 3: me or something, you know what I'm saying, because that's
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Speaker 3: survival kicking in because now you're thinking there's something to it.
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Speaker 3: But when the energy changed, people actually just want to
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Speaker 3: help because they see what you're doing, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. And for me, that was the changing point
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Speaker 3: for me. So if you asked me if I was
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Speaker 3: still trying to survive, I don't. I think it would
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Speaker 3: hurt me right now. I think that it would hurt
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Speaker 3: the vision. I think that it would hurt culturally because
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Speaker 3: I would still be out here pushing an agenda that's
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Speaker 3: really not mine in my heart.
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Speaker 1: That's good. At what point did survival stop being your
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Speaker 1: primary motivation?
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Speaker 3: Once I realized that I wasn't gonna have all the
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Speaker 3: money in the world, you know what I'm saying, and
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Speaker 3: no matter what I bought or had watches, change calls,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna change what was going on inside, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And once I started to do that,
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Speaker 3: which was probably the hardest thing I had to do,
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Speaker 3: it shifted everything, you know what I'm saying, because now
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Speaker 3: you're living for abundance, well with abundance, and you're seeing
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Speaker 3: what piece is. You're seeing what financial freedom is, You're
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Speaker 3: seeing what actually having real friends. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: You actually seeing what Actually you're doing things for yourself.
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Speaker 3: You're taking solo trips, going out of the country, just
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Speaker 3: you you know what I'm saying. You. You know, you
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Speaker 3: taking the time to make sure your schedule was set
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Speaker 3: up so that you can, like instead of booking, you know,
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Speaker 3: the year for the business, you booking your family first,
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Speaker 3: and then you work around that. But you book your
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Speaker 3: time first, you work around that. It's like, this is
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Speaker 3: what I got, you know what I'm saying. And also
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Speaker 3: just like real talk, it's just like knowing that you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You got to have boundaries, Like
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Speaker 3: you know, you can't take every call, You can't talk
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Speaker 3: to nobody, can't talk to everybody on the bridge. You
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Speaker 3: can tell somebody, look, man, I got thirty minutes. That's it.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It I can't listen to
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Speaker 3: you then all day. But I love you, But I
16:08
Speaker 3: mean right now I'm in a good space. I can't
16:10
Speaker 3: take this energy with me. I'm going home in about you know,
16:12
Speaker 3: two hours. I don't want to take this back to
16:14
Speaker 3: my kids or being able to tell people know you
16:18
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because that was the biggest thing
16:20
Speaker 3: for me. I wanted to do everything for everybody because
16:21
Speaker 3: I felt like that's what makes you a real person.
16:24
Speaker 3: But what makes you a real person that's making sure
16:26
Speaker 3: that you your start player it's good first, and then
16:29
Speaker 3: you can see how you want to help somebody else out,
16:31
Speaker 3: and then also having boundaries how far you go with
16:33
Speaker 3: that because if you keep going what juven I say,
16:36
Speaker 3: I say, I can't please everybody. I love my folks,
16:38
Speaker 3: but if I give you anything, baby, I'm gonna be.
16:43
Speaker 4: I love this conversation make because a lot of black
16:45
Speaker 4: men are taught how to survive. We don't.
16:48
Speaker 1: We're not really taught how to heal.
16:50
Speaker 4: So when did you realize those are two different skills sets.
16:54
Speaker 3: Well, surviving was easy because all you got to do
16:57
Speaker 3: is not care about nobody else. You know what I'm saying.
17:00
Speaker 3: It was hard because you gotta start caring about yourself first,
17:03
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Because for me, I didn't care,
17:06
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just wanted to survive,
17:07
Speaker 3: and that was like just enough to survive the next day.
17:10
Speaker 3: So I wasn't planning for things. You couldn't ask me
17:13
Speaker 3: what my next five years, ten years gonna look like.
17:16
Speaker 3: I didn't know what my next thirty minutes was gonna
17:18
Speaker 3: look like. You know what I mean. I'm not just
17:19
Speaker 3: saying that, but you say to healing, to me was
17:25
Speaker 3: it was just aligning with the purpose, like meaning like
17:28
Speaker 3: once I understood that this was like just put it
17:32
Speaker 3: like this, I wouldn't even be doing this residency if
17:34
Speaker 3: I ain't take that path. You know what I'm saying,
17:36
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have wrote no books. If I ain't take
17:38
Speaker 3: that path, I wouldn't have been honest enough to be
17:41
Speaker 3: honest with myself to even write a book, you know
17:44
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because to me, that was letting people in,
17:48
Speaker 3: showing my weaknesses, showing my blind spots. And you know,
17:52
Speaker 3: when you're living out of survivor, you can't show nobody
17:54
Speaker 3: nothing blind, you know what I mean. So when I
17:58
Speaker 3: understood that, you know, at first, you know, like they say,
18:02
Speaker 3: it's messy in the beginning, You know what I'm saying,
18:05
Speaker 3: it's tough in the middle, but it's beautiful at the
18:07
Speaker 3: end and just like now, just like I can clearly
18:12
Speaker 3: see when somebody's living for survival and and and I
18:17
Speaker 3: have empathy for them, you know what I'm saying, because
18:19
Speaker 3: I just know they just don't know yet, you know
18:21
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But then people will see me out like, man,
18:23
Speaker 3: you look good. You take care of yourself, just like
18:26
Speaker 3: I ain't stressed, you know what I'm saying. I'm not
18:28
Speaker 3: worried about anything, like I'm not tripping, and that's just me.
18:32
Speaker 3: But it's just like healing does that. And I talk
18:34
Speaker 3: to all my guys, like even my you know, some
18:36
Speaker 3: of my closest partners. I'll be like, yo, man, you know,
18:39
Speaker 3: like you gotta you gotta work on that. You gotta
18:40
Speaker 3: figure that out. And not to preach. It's just like
18:43
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, bro, it's like healing, healing and
18:46
Speaker 3: pieces like oxygen, you know what I'm saying. And when
18:49
Speaker 3: you can breathe, man, it's crazy.
18:51
Speaker 2: Is that that WHYZ is a quote unquote I say,
18:54
Speaker 2: a looner. Like when I see j Z, I see
18:56
Speaker 2: g Z by himself yeasty people with JEZI like Jez
19:01
Speaker 2: does his own thing.
19:02
Speaker 3: Is that the reason why no, because I don't. I
19:04
Speaker 3: don't look at it. I don't look at it as isolation.
19:07
Speaker 3: But I do. I do value my energy, you know
19:10
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I value my time and I value
19:13
Speaker 3: like my spirit, you know what I'm saying. And just
19:15
Speaker 3: like I'm a natural introvert. I don't know if people
19:18
Speaker 3: do that, you know what I mean. So I have
19:20
Speaker 3: to recharge. I mean, if you're on stage and you
19:22
Speaker 3: give it, you know, five ten thousand people your energy
19:24
Speaker 3: every night, you still got to run multiple companies and
19:26
Speaker 3: take care of kids and run you know, a couple
19:28
Speaker 3: of households and all these things. It's like you need
19:31
Speaker 3: time for yourself. But I will say that though people
19:33
Speaker 3: will see me out like somewhere eating by myself a trip,
19:36
Speaker 3: but I love like I love it, like you know
19:39
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's just like nothing like sitting down
19:42
Speaker 3: having some good food, bottle of wine. And I'll go
19:45
Speaker 3: anywhere around the country and do that. But when I'm
19:47
Speaker 3: with my people, I'm locked in. Like if I'm with
19:50
Speaker 3: my guys and we're doing something, I'm in I like
19:52
Speaker 3: to curate moments. You know, I'm that guy. But then
19:56
Speaker 3: I also need that time because I have to process
19:58
Speaker 3: a lot, because that's what healing is. Got to be
20:00
Speaker 3: able to sit with yourself. A lot of times, you know,
20:04
Speaker 3: when you're on that journey, you know, or you're just beginning,
20:07
Speaker 3: it's hard to sit with yourself. Bro, Like you got
20:09
Speaker 3: so much trauma and turmoil in you one minute the
20:13
Speaker 3: loan can feel like you're dying what I'm saying, and
20:16
Speaker 3: it's just like but to me, it's just like again,
20:18
Speaker 3: it's oxygen. I go do my thing. I still take
20:22
Speaker 3: myself out, you know. Right now, every Wednesday eight o'clock
20:25
Speaker 3: solo date, I do it. You know what I'm saying.
20:28
Speaker 3: I get dressed up, you know.
20:31
Speaker 5: So low you do like sushi Jake, I.
20:37
Speaker 3: Switched it up. I've been doing a little steak lately,
20:38
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna get it back around.
20:42
Speaker 1: Is it crazy to see this energy, man, that you.
20:44
Speaker 4: Created all of these years ago that you know, people
20:47
Speaker 4: was wilding in the club to you know, fighting.
20:51
Speaker 1: But then you have people hustled to whatever it was.
20:52
Speaker 1: It was a whole different energy.
20:54
Speaker 4: But now you're done turned it into this Vegas residency,
20:56
Speaker 4: like literally from survival.
20:58
Speaker 1: There's something that can heal?
20:59
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know, I told them in the beginning
21:02
Speaker 3: that I was, you know, motivated Thuss. They've grown now,
21:07
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and it's just like the
21:10
Speaker 3: speakers the same, the message has changed, and for me,
21:13
Speaker 3: it's just like it's real, you know. And I think
21:16
Speaker 3: that that's the hard part that people have, you know,
21:21
Speaker 3: been going back and forth by like it's that him.
21:24
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's.
21:25
Speaker 1: Real make more sense now.
21:31
Speaker 3: And a lot of those records make more sense on
21:33
Speaker 3: that stage to me, because anything that's great should be
21:38
Speaker 3: refined with time. And I feel like when I look
21:42
Speaker 3: at the greats, the Sinatras and all these people, they
21:47
Speaker 3: did things that were you know, even for Italian culture,
21:50
Speaker 3: that was huge, you know what I'm saying. But like
21:53
Speaker 3: the thing that throws me off about our coachure is
21:57
Speaker 3: we feel like we got to be a certain way
22:00
Speaker 3: to be accepted, you know what I'm saying, And that
22:03
Speaker 3: certain way to be accepted is built off of selfishness, right,
22:12
Speaker 3: meaning that it's got to be about me, right. And
22:17
Speaker 3: to add on to that, it's tough to watch people
22:21
Speaker 3: that are so talented and great not aligned with each
22:25
Speaker 3: other and just take the world. You know what I'm
22:29
Speaker 3: saying like we all great. It's crazy, like we are great,
22:33
Speaker 3: and every time I see it, it's just like you
22:35
Speaker 3: can go somewhere and see a whole nother culture, whether
22:37
Speaker 3: they're you know, I don't know, you know, you know,
22:42
Speaker 3: from Saudi Ray whatever, they they together when they get
22:45
Speaker 3: to these other countries, like they together, you know what
22:47
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I'm watching this, I'm just sitting back
22:50
Speaker 3: and I'm going like, what can I do to contribute
22:53
Speaker 3: to us getting together? And that's what the residency is about.
22:57
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing these interviews is about. That's what
23:00
Speaker 3: the piece with Don Limon. I know, we gotta talk
23:03
Speaker 3: about that. It's about because it's just like that is
23:06
Speaker 3: my purpose, you know, motivating and inspiring my people and
23:11
Speaker 3: getting us to see that we can do this together.
23:14
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I know that might
23:16
Speaker 3: sound crazy, but at some time, at some point, the
23:20
Speaker 3: narrative has to change.
23:24
Speaker 1: You know.
23:24
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you Jay Z did a
23:26
Speaker 2: freestyle at the Roots picnic right, take out the subject
23:30
Speaker 2: matter right. I feel like we don't have those moments
23:34
Speaker 2: anymore where it gives you that feeling, and I thought
23:37
Speaker 2: Jay would bring back Jay at his age of fifty,
23:40
Speaker 2: whatever he is, was able to bring back a feeling
23:42
Speaker 2: we haven't seen before.
23:43
Speaker 3: Do you agree? Because it was back to lyrics, it
23:45
Speaker 3: was back to music, it was back to rap. Well,
23:47
Speaker 3: I tell you it was even better than that. It
23:49
Speaker 3: was conflict resolution. You see what I'm saying, because you're
23:55
Speaker 3: coming at me right. And I'm not just saying this
23:58
Speaker 3: because me and J cool. But that's conflict resolution. You
24:02
Speaker 3: throw words to me, I throw words back. You ain't
24:03
Speaker 3: got to hurt me, ain't gotta hurt you. I'm better.
24:05
Speaker 3: I'm good at what I do. You can say what
24:07
Speaker 3: you say. I'm gonna say what I say. But guess what,
24:09
Speaker 3: if I see you tomorrow, he might dap him up.
24:12
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He ain't lose nothing. He
24:14
Speaker 3: just saw it. I'm great at what I do, So
24:15
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. That's different from getting into it with
24:18
Speaker 3: somebody around the corner and go killing somebody, taking away
24:20
Speaker 3: from their kids. You know what I'm saying. That's the
24:22
Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make. You know what I'm saying.
24:24
Speaker 3: It just like we gotta just draw the line. That's cool.
24:27
Speaker 3: That's the RD form. It's like basketball, man. I mean,
24:30
Speaker 3: come on, man, you know Ali officer shook a lot
24:33
Speaker 3: of people. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
24:36
Speaker 3: he ain't gonna go kill Steph Curry. And part of
24:40
Speaker 3: me for saying that, but it's like it don't. It's
24:44
Speaker 3: a sport. We gotta lead a sport on the field,
24:48
Speaker 3: on the court. He left it on the court. He
24:51
Speaker 3: left it on the field. That's how you do. That's
24:53
Speaker 3: grown man business. He ain't got no problem with them kids. Man,
24:55
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? What Anna? They gotta get past.
25:04
Speaker 3: And I ain't just saying that. I'm just saying respectfully.
25:07
Speaker 3: It's just like that, get my right, man like. And
25:10
Speaker 3: I don't want to come up here and sound crazy,
25:11
Speaker 3: but I just don't think nobody care. You know what
25:14
Speaker 3: I'm saying. These kids are going to prison, millionaires, moti
25:21
Speaker 3: what happened to the kids? The linears everything. Then at
25:24
Speaker 3: the same time they're dying. That's the part. I can't
25:28
Speaker 3: get bad.
25:28
Speaker 4: But you know that people will get mad and they'll say, well, jeez,
25:31
Speaker 4: used to make the kind of music.
25:32
Speaker 1: That used to cause that.
25:33
Speaker 4: But I always say, I say, hey, man, you know
25:36
Speaker 4: you did you knew you operated from the perspective you
25:39
Speaker 4: was from at the time.
25:39
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying with the information you had at
25:41
Speaker 1: the time.
25:42
Speaker 3: Not even that I never ever, ever, ever talked about
25:46
Speaker 3: spinning no blocks in the way that it wasn't self
25:49
Speaker 3: defense or defending me in mind. That's the difference. I'm
25:52
Speaker 3: not talking about going to hunt nobody child down. Man,
25:56
Speaker 3: that ain't even in my blood. But if you come
25:58
Speaker 3: to my house, you already know what it is. I
26:00
Speaker 3: told you. You know what I'm saying. So it's like
26:03
Speaker 3: it ain't it's a difference. It's like, that's why you
26:06
Speaker 3: got all these people that own all these firearms, just
26:08
Speaker 3: to protect their family. It's not to go hunt the
26:11
Speaker 3: neighbor down. You ain't never heard Garbrooks say he gonna
26:14
Speaker 3: go uh slide on.
26:21
Speaker 4: I'm high as a motherfucker right now, shooting nigga dead
26:25
Speaker 4: and this ship right now.
26:26
Speaker 3: What But I'm saying, like, I'm not saying I'm going
26:32
Speaker 3: to come spind your block because you claiming this, so
26:35
Speaker 3: you doing that, I'm just saying I'm protecting my and
26:37
Speaker 3: And by the way, that was the vibration of the music.
26:41
Speaker 3: We want to aggressive music. But that didn't mean I
26:43
Speaker 3: was gonna go out here and go. You know what
26:45
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like not unless I had to.
26:48
Speaker 1: But it's just that music.
26:49
Speaker 4: Probably did cause some kid to do that who was
26:52
Speaker 4: already feeling.
26:53
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, we ain't fighting, we ain't we fight light
27:00
Speaker 3: till they turn the lights. So when they turn them on,
27:02
Speaker 3: the go turn them on, turn the back off, and
27:04
Speaker 3: get back to the party. But it gott to be
27:05
Speaker 3: the differenttrats. But but this is what I will say.
27:10
Speaker 3: But this is what I will say. But this, but
27:17
Speaker 3: this is what I will say. Because I don't regret anything.
27:21
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna, you know, say that I didn't live
27:25
Speaker 3: a life. What I'm saying that at this point in
27:28
Speaker 3: my career that when I'm performing these records, I'm saying,
27:32
Speaker 3: stump the stump, stump, you turn the lights back off
27:35
Speaker 3: with the orchestra. Totally different with Adam Blackstone.
27:42
Speaker 1: You've seen the journey. You're supposed to evolve like people.
27:46
Speaker 4: I don't think people should, you know, hold you accountable
27:49
Speaker 4: for that you did that.
27:51
Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to spend the rest of my life.
27:53
Speaker 3: But but I do want to I do want to
27:55
Speaker 3: flag that from my perspective, even when I made music
27:59
Speaker 3: like that, because I knew gangster music. Well. I grew
28:01
Speaker 3: up on Ice Cube and all those guys, and I
28:03
Speaker 3: understood what they was doing. My thing was, I was
28:06
Speaker 3: a hustler. You know what I'm saying. When you hustle,
28:09
Speaker 3: the less violence the better, because that's how you're gonna
28:11
Speaker 3: get your money. You know what I'm saying. If you
28:12
Speaker 3: get violent, the block get hot. I do that for
28:14
Speaker 3: a fact. But the music was the music, but the
28:17
Speaker 3: mentality was and even with my crew, that's how we kicked.
28:20
Speaker 3: It's just like, you know, we're good until somebody bother us.
28:23
Speaker 3: So I do want to say that, but I think
28:24
Speaker 3: it changed somewhere to now. You know. It's almost like
28:31
Speaker 3: you know, I don't like you, so I'm gonna come
28:33
Speaker 3: and hunt you down. To me, that's that's wild. I mean,
28:36
Speaker 3: I'm just there's nothing no man gonna do to me
28:39
Speaker 3: besides my touch, my kids, my family that I feel
28:42
Speaker 3: like I got to go out here and do something
28:44
Speaker 3: crazy to prove a point, you know what I'm saying,
28:46
Speaker 3: Because what they say, man's a lot of wet pillars
28:49
Speaker 3: in the penitentiary.
28:50
Speaker 1: Man.
28:50
Speaker 3: And the thing is like when you came manage your
28:52
Speaker 3: emotions and you know, you in these positions that God
28:56
Speaker 3: put you in, you lose it all. You know what
28:58
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And that's worse than you know. To me,
29:01
Speaker 3: that's worse than hustling your whole life and getting twenty
29:03
Speaker 3: years because at least you against some money. You go
29:05
Speaker 3: out here and you just do something out of out
29:08
Speaker 3: of ego or out of you know, just not being
29:11
Speaker 3: able to control your emotions. Could you imagine like one
29:14
Speaker 3: second and you got to sit in the prison cell
29:16
Speaker 3: twenty years and think about what you did. And to me, like,
29:20
Speaker 3: and this is an interview, so it sounds cool, but like,
29:23
Speaker 3: twenty years is real. Man. I know people that have.
29:25
Speaker 6: Done it, But I feel like, don't you feel like
29:29
Speaker 6: don't you feel like people are accepting the not the change,
29:32
Speaker 6: like but where you are now, I don't really think
29:34
Speaker 6: that people push.
29:35
Speaker 5: Back on that with you, Like you people are motivated
29:37
Speaker 5: by saying.
29:37
Speaker 3: No, no, I love it. And you know, I'm just
29:40
Speaker 3: speaking candidly. But for me, this is real because I
29:46
Speaker 3: know I can't just leave and go live my life
29:51
Speaker 3: and watch all the things that are happening. It's like,
29:56
Speaker 3: I don't subscribe to the term oji. I hate it.
30:01
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing original about Gangster. When you're the big homie, man,
30:04
Speaker 3: you gotta still you know, you still got to pull
30:06
Speaker 3: back in and even like knowing you the big homie
30:08
Speaker 3: for some people that are older than you, you know
30:11
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you still gotta pull back in and
30:13
Speaker 3: show them like, hey man, there's a way to live,
30:15
Speaker 3: like because you got to really think about it. Beyond
30:16
Speaker 3: the Jays and the few people we know, ain't really
30:19
Speaker 3: a lot of examples on how you do this and
30:21
Speaker 3: continue to do it and how you evolve gracefully and
30:24
Speaker 3: not get caught up. Ain't a lot of examples like that,
30:26
Speaker 3: Like you don't got a lot to look at. So
30:28
Speaker 3: to me, that's important because I feel like once you
30:31
Speaker 3: feel like you hit the glass ceiling and I talk
30:34
Speaker 3: about it in the in the Legend of the Snowman
30:37
Speaker 3: Against All Odds interview that's coming out docuviewed's coming out Friday.
30:43
Speaker 1: What was it.
30:46
Speaker 3: Three pm Eastern time on my YouTube. Yeah, with donal Lemon.
30:53
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about those things because to me,
30:58
Speaker 3: that's what's important and that's what's real, you know what
31:00
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, music is always been a way to communicate,
31:04
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, having some type of you know,
31:08
Speaker 3: just some type of notoriety, you know what I'm saying,
31:11
Speaker 3: Like you gotta stand for something, you know what I mean.
31:15
Speaker 3: And it could be good or bad, that's on you,
31:17
Speaker 3: but you gotta stand for something. And for me, like
31:21
Speaker 3: the money's been made, the fun has been had, when
31:25
Speaker 3: it's all said and done, what was what was it
31:28
Speaker 3: really for? And I have to be honest, like I
31:30
Speaker 3: wouldn't be where I'm at in my journey right now
31:32
Speaker 3: if the coaching didn't give back to me and support
31:34
Speaker 3: me like that, I wouldn't be able to go pay
31:35
Speaker 3: for no therapy and you know, do all the things
31:38
Speaker 3: that I need to do to get myself together. So
31:40
Speaker 3: for me, I feel like I have to give back
31:42
Speaker 3: because we was all in this together, you know what
31:45
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So how can I give you Because if
31:47
Speaker 3: I gave you the motivation and if I told you know,
31:50
Speaker 3: gave you the recession and all these different projects, how
31:53
Speaker 3: am I gonna get myself together and just leave you
31:55
Speaker 3: out here at least not give you the information? You
31:57
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I gotta give you a shot,
31:59
Speaker 3: you know, you never know. I was talking to my
32:00
Speaker 3: little cousin the other day. He was just talking to
32:02
Speaker 3: me and he got to be about six years younger
32:05
Speaker 3: than he was, Like, yeah, man, because you know my
32:06
Speaker 3: boundaries and it messed my head. I'm like, tell me
32:09
Speaker 3: about it. And he understood that, you know what I'm saying,
32:12
Speaker 3: And we had a real conversation about that. But I
32:15
Speaker 3: felt like he walked away and he had more information
32:19
Speaker 3: than he did. But to me, like, that's better than
32:22
Speaker 3: selling the record to me, because I don't know where
32:26
Speaker 3: he gonna take that, you know what I'm saying, who
32:28
Speaker 3: he gonna explain that to? And you know, my point
32:31
Speaker 3: in case is this residency, this you know, these these interviews,
32:38
Speaker 3: this docu view with Don Lemon, everything that is in
32:43
Speaker 3: my path that I'm doing right now is because somebody
32:50
Speaker 3: has to do something.
32:52
Speaker 2: What made you feel that you feel like the culture
32:55
Speaker 2: doesn't care anymore? What gave you that feeling like I
32:58
Speaker 2: don't feel like these artists care as much.
33:00
Speaker 3: Or when money get in the quation everything, Jane, you
33:03
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm not saying they wrong for
33:05
Speaker 3: that because they've been through what they've been through, but
33:08
Speaker 3: you know how I go, it's just like it's just
33:09
Speaker 3: like anything. Just like once you get in it, you know,
33:13
Speaker 3: the industry grabs a hold of you, and you running
33:16
Speaker 3: the gun and you hustling, you hustling, you're doing everything
33:19
Speaker 3: you could do to get it up. Do what you
33:20
Speaker 3: gotta do. You're not looking back no more and saying
33:25
Speaker 3: what's going on? You hear about it, and it's like,
33:28
Speaker 3: there's no different than being in the street. It's like,
33:30
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, people, I used to hear
33:31
Speaker 3: about it on the weekend, you know such and such.
33:33
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, glad it ain't me. That's all I'm thinking.
33:36
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because I'm surviving. You know
33:38
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But now it's different. When I'm reading
33:40
Speaker 3: TMZ and what I'm saying, I'm like, man, why would
33:42
Speaker 3: he do that? It's crazy, it's crazy. He should set
33:46
Speaker 3: up a boxing mans or something, man like anything.
33:49
Speaker 1: That's funny.
33:49
Speaker 4: Because I always say you shouldn't judge people. I don't
33:51
Speaker 4: judge nobody for what they doing there and survival. More
33:54
Speaker 4: to your point, these niggas just doing y'all just waking.
33:56
Speaker 3: Up doing it. And by the way, ain't nobody to
33:59
Speaker 3: tell them different, becau they don't like one thing about it,
34:01
Speaker 3: and I love all my you know, my little brothers.
34:04
Speaker 3: You know, once once you become and not just to
34:07
Speaker 3: say those, but like once you become the boss or
34:10
Speaker 3: once you you know, become a million, because that's all
34:12
Speaker 3: you really want. A million dollars after the tackles ain't nothing.
34:15
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's like, once
34:16
Speaker 3: you get there, you can't really tell someone what they're
34:20
Speaker 3: doing or try to help them. So you got to
34:24
Speaker 3: kind of catch them on their way up because once
34:26
Speaker 3: they get it, they don't They ain't trying to hear that.
34:28
Speaker 3: And you know how I know I was the same way.
34:32
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Once I got on, I
34:33
Speaker 3: ain't here what nobody was saying. You know what I'm saying.
34:35
Speaker 3: I want to do it my way. I want to
34:37
Speaker 3: go out here and you know, lead the way I
34:41
Speaker 3: thought I was leading. You know what I'm saying. And
34:43
Speaker 3: Tdj's asked me that one time and I just had
34:45
Speaker 3: to really have a realization because it made me have
34:48
Speaker 3: a flashback. He's like, Okay, well where you lead them to?
34:51
Speaker 3: M hm.
34:52
Speaker 1: You know, so what responsibility to do?
34:56
Speaker 4: Artists have to evolve publicly win million people learn from them.
35:02
Speaker 1: Because you've evolved publicly.
35:04
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't really have a choice, like meaning like
35:07
Speaker 3: like it had to be my reputation exceeded me. Like
35:12
Speaker 3: so I couldn't, you know what I'm saying. I could
35:14
Speaker 3: just show up a certain way, people like, yo, what's
35:16
Speaker 3: up with your man? You know what I'm saying. So
35:17
Speaker 3: I had to kind of make it known. But also
35:20
Speaker 3: that was the big I'm gonna tell you, it's crazy,
35:22
Speaker 3: like putting like that might I might forgive. I don't
35:26
Speaker 3: forget that project. Putting my baby picture on there like
35:29
Speaker 3: when I was young, it was a big step for me.
35:31
Speaker 3: That's the most that's probably the most vulnerable pictures I had.
35:34
Speaker 3: I did that for myself because I would have never
35:37
Speaker 3: shown nobody that picture. But that was a part of healing,
35:41
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I had to put that
35:42
Speaker 3: out there because it's like that's a little jay And
35:45
Speaker 3: for me, that was intentional. But that doesn't mean the
35:48
Speaker 3: music had to be great. That was the process of
35:50
Speaker 3: it that did something for me, right, But going forward,
35:55
Speaker 3: as I started to do other things, I've been intentional
35:58
Speaker 3: about it because you got to understand, I'm showing up
36:01
Speaker 3: to me as the people who respect me for being
36:03
Speaker 3: a certain way, you know what I'm saying, And you're saying, yeah,
36:07
Speaker 3: but this is who I am now and you're hoping
36:09
Speaker 3: they understand. So that's that's like the process, because you
36:12
Speaker 3: could lose it all, Like they can wake up and
36:14
Speaker 3: be like, you know what, I'm good or you it's
36:16
Speaker 3: somebody else out there just doing that. So I think
36:19
Speaker 3: the responsibility ain't for the artists, the responsibilities for the man.
36:24
Speaker 3: Who's the man? You know, we all can put shades
36:27
Speaker 3: on change watches. You know what I'm saying about? Who
36:31
Speaker 3: is the man? Who are you when nobody else is looking?
36:34
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm met with.
36:35
Speaker 6: So are we going to get back to the show
36:38
Speaker 6: kind of think there's a bit on this new round
36:40
Speaker 6: of shows. I know you just added by eleven more.
36:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven more days.
36:43
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, along gonna make it out to
36:46
Speaker 5: any of them.
36:46
Speaker 3: I mean, she's invited, We're gonna invite her again. You
36:53
Speaker 3: got a formal invite.
36:55
Speaker 1: Everybody update with.
37:00
Speaker 5: A couple.
37:01
Speaker 6: It was the first interview and then you was like,
37:03
Speaker 6: we were right to think that there was a little
37:05
Speaker 6: ris happening there, but you were just very respectful yeah.
37:07
Speaker 3: I think I asked that last.
37:09
Speaker 5: Yeah.
37:11
Speaker 6: So look when you say you got three X is
37:14
Speaker 6: broken down, it's a three x the man.
37:15
Speaker 5: The legend is that three different suits.
37:18
Speaker 1: No, okay, do you bet?
37:21
Speaker 3: Do you be high? Absolutely? It's Vegas. Okay, no, no,
37:26
Speaker 3: don't let you die. You know what I'm saying. I
37:33
Speaker 3: have to say.
37:36
Speaker 6: When you do something like at eleven more shows, right,
37:38
Speaker 6: I remember I talked to you when you first revealed
37:40
Speaker 6: everything the residence he was happening, and uh, we were
37:43
Speaker 6: talking about how people didn't believe that hip hop with
37:46
Speaker 6: the orchestra or rap with the orchestra would even work.
37:48
Speaker 5: And now you're added eleven more shows.
37:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven more dates, so it's twenty two dates. Now,
37:52
Speaker 3: make sure you come out to play in Hollywood, Las Vegas,
37:54
Speaker 3: Nevada for the residency. The legend of the snow Man again.
37:59
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, you got Adam Blackstone, you
38:02
Speaker 3: got Dereck Hodges, you got the Color of Noise Orchestra,
38:04
Speaker 3: you got DJ A, she got DJ Drama together. That's
38:09
Speaker 3: that's that's that's everything. You know what I'm saying, that's
38:12
Speaker 3: like high low culture. This that and the Derek Hodge
38:16
Speaker 3: is like a modern day Miles Davis. Like you know
38:19
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Adams way past talented. But it's just like,
38:25
Speaker 3: you know, like you're saying eleven more dates because a
38:27
Speaker 3: lot of the culture on my side didn't know who
38:30
Speaker 3: they were. Wow, and now getting a chance to experience
38:33
Speaker 3: this and see them, you know what I'm saying. You
38:35
Speaker 3: know what they have been like to go see Miles
38:36
Speaker 3: Davis play live. You know what I'm saying. It's just
38:39
Speaker 3: like you're getting to see that. And I had explained
38:41
Speaker 3: that to people. Just like the first time I ever
38:43
Speaker 3: saw orchestra or been to an orchestra show was when
38:46
Speaker 3: I performed with the orchestra in Atlanta. You know what
38:49
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the first time ever, I didn't even know
38:51
Speaker 3: what to expect, no, because I had never been to
38:55
Speaker 3: an orchestra. So just like, I want to do this,
38:57
Speaker 3: So I went into it and I'm like, I'm gonna
38:59
Speaker 3: do it, and I knew I just had to know
39:02
Speaker 3: my part.
39:02
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
39:03
Speaker 6: You go from never even seeing the orchestra performing one,
39:05
Speaker 6: breaking a Guinness Book of World Record for performer one
39:08
Speaker 6: and now adding eleven.
39:09
Speaker 5: More dates when they told you whatn't work? So you're
39:11
Speaker 5: self funded.
39:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like a crazy journk Like everything with you
39:14
Speaker 6: was just like we get to watch this journey right
39:16
Speaker 6: when I look.
39:16
Speaker 3: At it, No different than you know, when they kept saying,
39:19
Speaker 3: you know, street guy could make it and wrap and
39:23
Speaker 3: I was by my mom make c these and passing
39:24
Speaker 3: them out, and everybody thought I was crazy, Like why
39:26
Speaker 3: would you get the music away for free? Here we
39:29
Speaker 3: are twenty five years later. You know what I'm saying,
39:32
Speaker 3: It all makes sense. But you know, my my, my
39:35
Speaker 3: biggest message to anybody out there, man like living your
39:39
Speaker 3: purpose and you know, if nobody believes you, you know,
39:43
Speaker 3: just bet on yourself, because that's what it's really about.
39:46
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's just like these people
39:48
Speaker 3: ain't sending spaceships in the you know, in the in
39:52
Speaker 3: the space you know, because they waiting on the government.
39:55
Speaker 3: They betting on themselves. I don't know what they're trying
39:57
Speaker 3: to figure out, but they betting on themselves. And I
39:59
Speaker 3: look at the and I go, no matter what level
40:02
Speaker 3: or step on the ladder, you are, you know, invest like,
40:06
Speaker 3: bet on yourself. Because when you bet on yourself, you
40:10
Speaker 3: don't have all these cooks or chefs in the kitchen
40:15
Speaker 3: try and tell you what you can't do or what
40:18
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be doing. And when you're dealing with these
40:21
Speaker 3: corporations or you know, just anybody that's entangled in your stuff,
40:27
Speaker 3: if they're giving you the money first, they gonna want
40:30
Speaker 3: some say so and they're not gonna see your vision.
40:33
Speaker 3: And my thing is just like it ain't even about
40:36
Speaker 3: the shows. I'm more so like we putting our foot
40:39
Speaker 3: down in Vegas. Man, we bringing culture to I bet
40:43
Speaker 3: they've never seen that in a while. You know what
40:45
Speaker 3: I'm saying. When you come out that hotel and you
40:48
Speaker 3: see all them brothers and sisters dressed to the nines
40:50
Speaker 3: and taking pictures and walking across the street to go
40:53
Speaker 3: to that venue. Even when I'm going on my way,
40:54
Speaker 3: I look every night and I'm just like, this is crazy.
40:57
Speaker 3: And I know my fans, you know, so shout out
40:59
Speaker 3: to my day one. I need to pull up. You
41:00
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But these are people I've never
41:03
Speaker 3: seen before. These are adult like, working class people that
41:09
Speaker 3: got a ticket because he wanted to bring his wife
41:11
Speaker 3: and you know it was the girl's trip.
41:13
Speaker 4: And all that, but you don't know where they was
41:14
Speaker 4: at twenty years ago, because twenty years ago, we wouldn't
41:17
Speaker 4: have thought you was on stage and a suit looking
41:18
Speaker 4: like that.
41:19
Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying is, you know, I've been doing
41:21
Speaker 3: this long enough that I can look in the crowd.
41:23
Speaker 5: See oh you like recognize people.
41:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing Yeah, I think I've been doing
41:26
Speaker 3: this almost twenty seven years. I know. But they there.
41:29
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, but these are a lot of people
41:31
Speaker 3: that I haven't seen before, you know what I'm saying,
41:33
Speaker 3: And probably people that wouldn't come to you know, some
41:37
Speaker 3: of these shows because of the places that they were in.
41:40
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying it's like you know.
41:42
Speaker 1: You you uh oprahdun for real.
41:48
Speaker 3: Go do that. But now it's like Okay, now I
41:50
Speaker 3: call with my wife, I can call my girl, you know,
41:52
Speaker 3: I'm come over with the guys whatever, and it's a
41:55
Speaker 3: it's a real vibe, you know what I'm saying. So
41:57
Speaker 3: it's just like in the destination, like you come, you might,
42:00
Speaker 3: you know, get the pool, go out whatever. Whatever. That's
42:03
Speaker 3: different than showing up as a club to see somebody.
42:05
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know you from South
42:07
Speaker 3: Carolina and we were coming down there to go to club.
42:11
Speaker 4: I remember if I got Fatcy g at the main
42:15
Speaker 4: event in Columbia, South Carolina. This is when Trappa Died
42:19
Speaker 4: wasn't even out yet, you and Big Country Can and
42:22
Speaker 4: it was like one hundred people in that show. But
42:24
Speaker 4: then by the time Trapper Died came out maybe six
42:26
Speaker 4: months later, that same club had three thousand people on
42:30
Speaker 4: the inside and probably another thousand trying.
42:32
Speaker 3: To get it with a whole different energy back then
42:35
Speaker 3: with nobody playing either. That's all I'm saying. But you know,
42:41
Speaker 3: for me, you know, I really want to invite everybody
42:43
Speaker 3: to come out to Las Vegas, Nevada, come to see
42:46
Speaker 3: the Legend of the Snowman. It's not it's not just
42:50
Speaker 3: a show. This is an experience. And I mean that wholeheartedly.
42:54
Speaker 3: And I invite everybody to watch the Legend of the
42:57
Speaker 3: Snowman against All Odds fry three pm Eastern time on
43:03
Speaker 3: my YouTube and uh to sit down with me and
43:05
Speaker 3: my guy Don Lemon, and it's deep, it's dope, and
43:09
Speaker 3: it's real. And you know, we're gonna keep pushing Koja.
43:13
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep pushing purpose, and we're gonna keep pushing peace.
43:16
Speaker 4: One last thing, man, since you're being so vulnerable and
43:18
Speaker 4: so transparent, why don't you put out the conversation that
43:22
Speaker 4: we had several years ago we went to hawks and
43:27
Speaker 4: you from the from the ride because you pick you
43:29
Speaker 4: up from the airport, from the ride to the airport,
43:31
Speaker 4: the Hawkingsville and then just walking around meeting Auntie and
43:33
Speaker 4: all that. You was like, nah, this was too much
43:36
Speaker 4: and you didn't want to put the whole thing out.
43:38
Speaker 3: Welly not now, well I can put it out now
43:40
Speaker 3: some statute of lilimitations. People were talking to.
43:46
Speaker 1: People that we were talking to, like, man, Auntie a
43:50
Speaker 1: movie man.
43:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, shout out to my man. Yeah, I love
43:53
Speaker 3: her to death. And may no, shout out to you
43:55
Speaker 3: for even coming down there, bro, like that that was big.
43:57
Speaker 3: You know. You know, I'm like, I was a legend
43:59
Speaker 3: already and I brought Charlamagne to the hood. Everybody's great
44:02
Speaker 3: about this. But also, man, shout out to you guys
44:05
Speaker 3: for Netflix. When you talk about evolving, man evolved. You
44:08
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying and what I would say to y'all.
44:12
Speaker 3: You know, if I could leave you in any words,
44:13
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's gonna have an opinion, you know, what
44:16
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's how it is in the beginning. But
44:18
Speaker 3: you know, once you get to where it needs to be,
44:21
Speaker 3: that we can have another conversation about this, because y'all
44:23
Speaker 3: the first to crack that cold baby. That ain't that
44:25
Speaker 3: ain't no, that ain't for play. You know what I'm saying.
44:27
Speaker 3: That ain't for play, Jez. We appreciate you for joining
44:29
Speaker 3: us always.
44:30
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, in Vegas. I'm going out there for Vegas.
44:35
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the show. Yes, I'm excited,
44:37
Speaker 2: and I need you guys because I'm listening. Then after
44:39
Speaker 2: the day, you guys, I want to hear your.
44:42
Speaker 4: The breakdown, real revision.
44:44
Speaker 3: You'll need to We all came to Atlanta one time
44:53
Speaker 3: we broadcast was it a night or Yeah?
44:54
Speaker 1: We did? We did it. It was frankskys uh, Yeah.
45:02
Speaker 5: That was I love a good family.
45:05
Speaker 2: We can figure out all dressed up and broadcastling in
45:08
Speaker 2: and then that, and we can figure out it's the
45:10
Speaker 2: breakfast club.
45:11
Speaker 3: It's jeezy already, love baby, hold up every day.
45:15
Speaker 1: A week ago, wake your glass up.
45:17
Speaker 3: The breakfast Club.
45:18
Speaker 1: You don't finish with y'all. Dune