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David Rutherford Show: How a Navy SEAL Finds Peace in Everyday Pain | Ray "Cash" Care · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Life is like buds. You don't pass it. You survive it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, man, like, but if you were to ask, Hey, rut,
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  Speaker 2: how do I find more peace in my life? I'm
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  Speaker 2: like blank. I have no idea what that is or
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  Speaker 2: what it means. Every time I have an operator on,
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  Speaker 2: I ask him this question. How do you find peace
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  Speaker 2: in in the everyday pain of your life?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I know you're, I knew you were
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  Speaker 1: going to ask this question and, um, because I listened, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: but I do a couple of things. Number one, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the show, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Every so often, a person that I've been friends with
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  Speaker 2: for a long time kind of hits my feet and
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  Speaker 2: I start looking at what they're saying. I look at
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing in their lives and I have that
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  Speaker 2: little trigger, that little emotional just thing that hits me
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  Speaker 2: and I'm filled with this just essentially pride that a
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine is doing so well, making such a
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  Speaker 2: positive impact on the world. in an effect in so
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  Speaker 2: many lives in such a cool way. And just recently,
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  Speaker 2: my friend Ray Cash Care hit my feed multiple times
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  Speaker 2: with all the new stuff he's going on. And so
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  Speaker 2: I just couldn't resist. And I reached out and just actually,
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  Speaker 2: he reached out to me and was like, hey, Rutt,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? Checking on you, how you doing? And
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  Speaker 2: it gave me the perfect opportunity to say, hey, Ray,
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  Speaker 2: would you love to come on? So ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: without further ado, my friend Ray Cash Care.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, brother? It's been a minute, huh? It's been
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  Speaker 1: a long minute. It's been a long minute, dude. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy to me in our worlds.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you talk about this, like you'll see
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  Speaker 2: somebody engage with somebody and then you'll stop. And then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you engage with them again. And
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  Speaker 2: you're like, Hey man, how long has it been? And
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  Speaker 2: you're like 10 years, five years. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, I don't I don't take that shit personal.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're busy. I'm busy.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, when I you know, I think last
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  Speaker 2: time we saw each other, we were in Florida together.
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  Speaker 2: We were doing some event or something. But it's what
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  Speaker 2: it is, man. People get busy. We got you know,
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  Speaker 2: we got kids. We got families. You know, life life
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  Speaker 2: goes on. I mean, and you know.
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  Speaker 1: You're a hard man to get ahold of. I mean, I've,
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  Speaker 1: I won't lie. I won't lie to you or your fans.
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  Speaker 1: I fucking reach out a lot more to you than
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  Speaker 1: you have me, but that's okay. Let's just address it.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that everybody will tell anybody who
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  Speaker 2: listens is that I suck at paying attention and returning texts.
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  Speaker 1: There's just nothing about it. I've never been good at it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, I admit, I am not good at, at
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  Speaker 2: that portion of my friendships, man. It's just, I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the whole thing for me is like the
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  Speaker 2: post COVID thing really just like got me in this
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  Speaker 2: like state of fear that every, you can lose everything
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  Speaker 2: in a minute, in a second. And I think when,
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  Speaker 2: when that happened and when I came out of it and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, got the job with the asset management company speaking,
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  Speaker 2: All I could think about is this is going to end.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to end. This is going to end.
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  Speaker 2: All right. They're going to fire me next week. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to fire me in six months. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: get sick of me. They're going to pick someone out.
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  Speaker 2: And so all I've done for the last five years
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  Speaker 2: is literally just put my head down. I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: road every week for them, almost every week. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then when the show came to me about a
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  Speaker 2: year and a half ago, I add that in. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, I have just become the shittiest friend on
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  Speaker 2: the planet to so many people that I was close with.
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  Speaker 2: Cause like all that time, cause you know, the deal,
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  Speaker 2: like you'll like, I used to have stretches where I'd
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  Speaker 2: go for three weeks with no.
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  Speaker 1: Gig, right? You're, you're a maniac.
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  Speaker 2: You're always busy, but fucking, I would have these huge
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  Speaker 2: gaps in my time where I would keep all those
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  Speaker 2: relationships going. And, and now it's like, I, with four kids,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, four kids, a wife, you know, full-time
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  Speaker 2: job doing that. And then the show, it's like, man, I,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have five, like five seconds to even fucking breathe,
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  Speaker 2: much less be a good friend and keep in touch, dude. No,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and let's, let's, let's face it. We're, but
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  Speaker 2: we ain't getting fucking younger, man. I mean, I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: ready to five in March.
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  Speaker 1: And if, you know, between jujitsu and speaking and coaching
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  Speaker 1: and other things I do, And the only thing I
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  Speaker 1: want to do is sit my ass down, either getting
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  Speaker 1: a cold plunge to recover or spend, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: empty nesters now. So that's, that's, that's right. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Podcast on just empty nesters, man. And, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are definitely perks of it. You know, you walk
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  Speaker 1: around the house with no clothes on cause you ain't
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  Speaker 1: got kids around and things like that. But in the
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  Speaker 1: same token, man, I just, I miss, I miss the noise.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like silence is sometimes really deafening and it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: Me and my wife have just had these epiphanies where
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  Speaker 2: we're like, fuck man, we're getting old. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I look at life like a sunrise and a sunset.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of how I've always, that's been my symbolism
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  Speaker 2: of life. And 55, man, I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 1: More on the setting side than it is. It ain't,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't noon anymore, brother. When we look up the
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  Speaker 1: word land, it's, it's over here. It's like, shit, it's
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  Speaker 1: getting dark, you know? Dude. And it's, Hey, let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you a question about that. Cause I, I find
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  Speaker 1: that fascinating too.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I think us, our perception of time is skewed
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  Speaker 2: compared to most normal people.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's a relative to how many friends
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  Speaker 2: that we have that are dead. I think how many
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  Speaker 2: friends that we have that are in bad shape, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, and then what we see on
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  Speaker 2: a regular basis with coaching and speaking, because we are,
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  Speaker 2: you have so much access to so many people that
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  Speaker 2: are struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're like, you become, I think you become so
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  Speaker 1: much more.
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  Speaker 2: Attuned to that time, that time like, as you said, man,
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  Speaker 2: like for us, it's, it's setting and like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 2: I still got a lot of shit I want to
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  Speaker 2: get done.
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  Speaker 1: Like, so, but is it really, let me, and let
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  Speaker 1: me ask this in the right way. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Our perception of that time is more existential. It's more acute, right?
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  Speaker 2: We're running out of time that we can be as
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  Speaker 2: active and as efficient and as focused as we are.
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  Speaker 2: But the other part is like you said, man, like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm sitting still, I'm fucking miserable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. Like, and, and John, my wife laughs at me.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, you could, you could, you know, you could.
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  Speaker 2: Have all these successes, finish all these projects done and,
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  Speaker 2: and you'd be done and be like, Oh great. You
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  Speaker 2: can have six months down now. And you'd, you'd fuck
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  Speaker 2: it up in the next, in the first.
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  Speaker 1: Week after that. That's the truth though, too, isn't it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to be an apex predator, brother. You, you get,
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  Speaker 2: you get, you get the taste of blood and you
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  Speaker 2: want it. I mean, that's, that's what we do. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we've done so long. And, for so long,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, is just, you know, we've hunt, we've conquered,
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  Speaker 2: we've killed per se, right? You know, whatever, not, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to be people, just our mission. We've accomplished it.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, that's a buzz.
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  Speaker 1: That's a high. You know, I fucking love feeling like
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm doing jiu-jitsu now. I walk around like
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  Speaker 1: Tim Conway off of Carol Burnett now because I'm so
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  Speaker 1: damn sore. But it makes me feel alive.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, well, you're probably still like rolling with the fucking
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  Speaker 2: studs because you're a maniac. I am and I pay
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  Speaker 2: for it. Like, if you ask me what hurts, it's like, yes.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, wait a minute, I didn't even ask you,
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  Speaker 2: but yes. I'm going to answer yes. Like from here down,
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  Speaker 2: it hurts. Dude, there's this thing called old man jujitsu, Ray.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you get, you part. I'm transitioning. I listen,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they say you should get older. You get wiser.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I know. I'm a lot grayer. I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting a little wiser.
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  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm, I'm starting, I'm starting to see that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're not, I mean, I remember the rut from back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, superhero, man, you know, the short hair, the.
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  Speaker 1: The red pants, all this, you know, you're a savage.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but it's the little wins now, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: if I go to bed at night, I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is for the audience.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little older. If I don't have to get
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  Speaker 1: up and piss at night, it's a win. It's a victory.
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  Speaker 1: That is a win, but it's amazing how things change.
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  Speaker 1: Perceptions change. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What, you know, I used to want the fame
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  Speaker 2: and the fortune, you know, now I just want to
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  Speaker 2: be happy. You know, I've been so, so focused and
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  Speaker 2: driven on, you know, trying to be the best at everything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I, and I don't know about you, but
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  Speaker 2: I put the wrong things on the back burner and
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  Speaker 2: that's my wife and kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, man, you know, you're looking at a new
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  Speaker 1: and improved me, man. You're a man of God. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a just, I family first, baby. That's what I do, man.
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  Speaker 1: Like if, well, you know, what's.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy is like, even though I know like you, you
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  Speaker 2: are the pinnacle of grinders, right? There's, there's people out
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  Speaker 2: there that, that profess they grind. And then there's people
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  Speaker 2: that really grind. And as long as I've ever known you, man,
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  Speaker 2: you you're full tilt, you're full out always. And, and
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  Speaker 2: even in the midst of that, I've, I've always heard
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  Speaker 2: you talk about like, uh, your wife in a place
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  Speaker 2: of reverence and your kids.
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  Speaker 1: And it's, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Cool to hear like, Oh no, now that's the priority.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You know? And, and so let me ask you this, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: In our world.
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  Speaker 2: And, and for those that, that, you know, for whatever,
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  Speaker 2: wherever position that you hold operators or former operators at, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's often they, they believe that
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  Speaker 2: there's just, there's an opportunity on every corner for us. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I always talk about, yeah, dude, when I first
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  Speaker 2: started doing what I'm doing back in like, Oh, six.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Was a lot more opportunities. Nobody was really out there.
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  Speaker 1: Doing it, you know? Well, now there are 400 Navy
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  Speaker 1: SEALs speaking and coaching and training and teaching and leadership
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  Speaker 1: courses and all that. And so it's like, This is
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  Speaker 1: cutthroat as hell. And then there's.
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  Speaker 2: Another 500 green berets and another 200 rate Marine Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: And there's, you know, all these agency guys out there
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  Speaker 2: now and all, you know, and it's like, like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: the market is utterly saturated with, in quotations, operators professing
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  Speaker 2: to know how to, you know, teach other people.
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  Speaker 1: And so, you know, what, what I.
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  Speaker 2: See is the, the, the, um, what, um, the hospitality of,
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  Speaker 2: Amongst peers has diminished substantially. And it's the guys that
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  Speaker 2: don't like focus on all that other shit and only
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  Speaker 2: deliver a quality service that, you know, that works. And, and,
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  Speaker 2: and that keeps you employed. That keeps you going. That
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  Speaker 2: keeps that working. motivation to keep delivering something that's unique
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  Speaker 2: and different. And that's what I've always seen with you, right?
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  Speaker 2: In this, this host of, of dozens and dozens of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, good guys that are really have something unique
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  Speaker 2: and interesting to pitch. You're always in the mix at
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  Speaker 2: the forefront of that crew.
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  Speaker 1: And what I always.
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  Speaker 2: Wondered, did you like, you know, now that you have
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  Speaker 2: this new focus of wife and kids, how did you
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  Speaker 2: take the pressure at your, off yourself? to try and maintain,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being at the top of that class of people.
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  Speaker 1: Doing whatever it is we do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if I've ever taken the
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  Speaker 2: pressure off, but I, I think I just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know I'm talking to another brother here,
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  Speaker 2: but I've, uh, I've just come to terms with like,
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  Speaker 2: when I first started the business, man, I was a
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  Speaker 2: fucking fraud.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to be like, I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: I'd watch you. I'd watch the people that were doing it.
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  Speaker 1: And I would like, I would, I would like plagiarize
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  Speaker 1: pieces of what people did, your energy, Jocko's intensity. This
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  Speaker 1: guy's this.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, I just had epiphany where
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  Speaker 2: it was like, you know, you know what, Ray, you're you,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have, you don't have the story of Rob O'Neill,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people in the red that you weren't shot
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  Speaker 2: 26 times, you know, and I'm going to be with
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  Speaker 2: Jason tonight and the trails, but what you are, man,
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  Speaker 2: is you're authentic and you just love people. And I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, when I started being me and stopped
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  Speaker 2: worrying about, you know, listen, I mean, dude, I remember
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  Speaker 2: when I, I couldn't, I mean, I know you still
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  Speaker 2: do your things. You're a lot more quieter, but back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, man, if people didn't know you, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the feed was you standing on a table with a
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  Speaker 2: pair of red pants, Boston red.
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  Speaker 1: Side, you were everywhere. And I was like, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what team guys do.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, fuck, I want that. You know, like he's doing, um,
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  Speaker 2: you were cool enough back in the day to give
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  Speaker 2: me some advice. A lot of guys have, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of guys out there that don't, that don't
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  Speaker 2: want to pass on that knowledge. And I think all
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  Speaker 2: I did was I just, you know, I do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of reflection drills. I still do a lot of that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Navy seal box breathing, all the things that
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  Speaker 2: we do. And I just took a hard look in
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  Speaker 2: the mirror and said, listen, you are who you are.
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  Speaker 2: And the only way that this is going to work
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  Speaker 2: is if you stop trying to pretend to be other
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  Speaker 2: people or, or utilize people's parts. So you know, I
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  Speaker 2: tell everybody I'm not everybody's cup of tea. Cause I'm
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  Speaker 2: a strong cup of coffee. I mean, that's, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I am. Um, and it's, but I will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we, we were talking about, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: new venture that I'm doing with Rob O'Neill and them.
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  Speaker 1: Um, we, I will get into that later.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we need to do more of instead of
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  Speaker 2: competing with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Work together, you know, like there is enough to
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  Speaker 1: go around. Like there is, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I, Like people, I, I, I, you know, I,
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  Speaker 2: I would, I, I don't get them anymore, but I
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  Speaker 2: would get regular calls like a rut.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I actually, I just got one.
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  Speaker 2: I just got one from a friend who just decided
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  Speaker 2: to like, start doing like online, like shorts or clips.
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  Speaker 2: And he went from like 1500 followers to 108,000 followers
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  Speaker 2: in like two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Damn. And he, you know, he called me up and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, well, what do I do now? And how
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  Speaker 1: do I do this?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, all right, you know, you can,
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  Speaker 2: you need to be on a speakers, multiple speakers bureaus.
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  Speaker 2: And then if they think you're fit, that's good, but
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to get you all the jobs. You
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  Speaker 2: still have to have presence and on your videos do this. And,
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  Speaker 2: and so like, I'm introducing him to a couple of
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  Speaker 2: speakers bureaus. I've said, Hey, on your, things. Do you
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  Speaker 2: need help? Like Jordy's amazing at clips. He can help
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  Speaker 2: coach you through what that does and all this. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, man. My whole thing is like,
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  Speaker 2: if I know you and I think you're a good,
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  Speaker 2: decent human being, like let's, okay, let's figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's fuck. And that's why when I saw you guys
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  Speaker 2: come together with this collect the operators collective, I was
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  Speaker 2: so fucking thankful because I was so sick of, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's a fucking liar and he sucks and they're liars
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  Speaker 2: and fucking SEALs suck and Rangers are awesome and SF
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  Speaker 2: sucks and... marine, you know, I'm like, holy fuck, what
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  Speaker 2: the hell is going on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you guys came together to form this
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  Speaker 2: like collective group, I was like, God, that's fucking genius, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a, will you, will you talk about the
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  Speaker 1: auspice of this and how you guys figured this out?
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  Speaker 2: So, um, operators collective was obviously founded by Rob O'Neill,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: who If you don't know who he is, you live
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: under a fucking rock. And then the manager of it,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: his name's Ari. I can't pronounce his last name. Great
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: guy out of New York. And he's worked with some
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: of the best. And what they decided to do is
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: just kind of interview to get different personalities and individuals
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: into a speaking bureau instead of like, Hey, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the speaking bureau is already going. You have to apply
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: for it. We're going to create a speaking bureau and
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: we're going to expand. So kind of like the dirty
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: dozen and you've got, You know, me, Will's on there,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Will Chesney.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You know, you got Danielle Martin. She's like a big
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: jujitsu girl. Scotty Oates. I know, you know, Scotty. Oh,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: love Scotty.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Scotty's on there. Dan's on there. The old red team guy.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've got Jeff gum, you know?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Awesome.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Kaj was, but I think he had to hang up
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: those cleats. He's working for big Pete right now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that recently.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: We have this great group of individuals and we put
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: on events and Um, and we just back each other.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Like I've did my first event with Rob and you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: he's fucking something else.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Bro. He's a pro man. He's a fucking pro. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: kind of open for him. And that's the thing, right?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Like the first thing that everybody, like we all agree
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: on is listen, leave the egos at the door, man.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's, it's Rob show. We got that. Like, yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: if I'm getting a paycheck, I'm doing what I love
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm providing for my family. dude, I'll sweep the floors.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You know, like I'm beyond all that. You always got
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to clean the shitters sometimes. Jeff Campbell's on it now too, Jeff. Dude,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: love Jeff. So, you know, I remember when his, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: he used to, he's a great guy now, but back
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: in the day, man, he even said world's biggest recovering asshole.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Like he was an angry man. I'm going to see him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not picking a fight with him. He probably kicked
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: my ass, but.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: He was a misunderstood human being. Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: We just got all these people that are like, they've got,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you know, their, their pieces of their zones of genius. And,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you know, we're doing all these things. We have a
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: big event coming up in November. Yeah. Talk about that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Talk about it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: It's called the apex protocol where it is, um, Las Vegas, November.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: 20 through 23. And it's going to entail, uh, two
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: days at staccato ranch. Um, we're going to be doing some,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll, I'll explain all this to you later.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Cause I know you don't know what it is, but,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But CQC, Kill House. What's that? We're going to be doing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Actually, you know, it's funny, Ray, and I don't mean
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to cut you off, but it's so funny. I don't
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: know what it is anymore.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Like the whole from the time we were in and
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: how we ran it. Oh yeah. What it is now.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Now they're doing all this shit. I know, man. Oh dude.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Like every, you're shooting through windows, you're pying everything you
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: can fucking. I like, I'm, I, I am, I listen, dude,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I'd get, if I was in a train, I'd get
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the guy next to me killed.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Oh dude. Muzzle ups, muzzle down. What are we doing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: with the muzzle? What are we doing with the muzzle? Um, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be, we're building up, we're doing
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a mile shot, you know, obviously doing a bunch of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: cool stuff there. Static dynamic movement. Great facility too. Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So with people don't know the means beginner moving to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: more intermediate to who knows, depending on the audience, maybe
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: some advanced work, multi-room entries, you know, practice and simulating breach,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: doing some stuff like that. Followed by some very select dinners,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: some very exclusive dinners followed by campfire side chats. Now,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of people ask, what is that sitting by
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a campfire? No, what it means is putting down the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: phones and, imagine that putting down the phones, no recording
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and just having real fucking conversations. Um, not a time
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to embellish, you know, like, Oh, I, you know, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: did this and did that. Just, you know, if somebody
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: asks you a question, sometimes you might get, you might
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: not get the book version of it. You might get
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a different version of it, More raw version. After those
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: two days, we're doing F1. F1' s there. We got the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: best seats in the house in Vegas. I'm a huge
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: automotive enthusiast, so that's pretty cool seeing that kind.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Of power there.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. I've heard that event is growing into
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: one of.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The coolest events. Vegas is insane.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Then the final day, I think it's Dragon. I can't
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: remember what the name of it was, but exclusive golf.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. you know, teams of golf. I mean, I've got,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I signed like five people up friends of mine.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I'll have seven of my team there, but I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: we're only taking 20 or 25 people, very exclusive.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You know, there is a price point.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: If anybody ever wants it, you can go to the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: operators collective or you can hit me up and I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: can talk you to it, but it's just going to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: be a great time where we just kind of let
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: her hair down and just really train and network and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: talk and communicate. And I think we need more of
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this shit because we, you know, post COVID man, everybody
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: turned into introverts and now there's AI that, you know, Lily,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I, I just didn't type something up on
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: AI and have you talk to an AI version. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: literally just saw a video this morning of a dude
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that had a job interview AI person. And then he
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: built the person that was interviewing for the job interview
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in an AI person. And they, they, after he left
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the room, the AI guy was like, thank you so much.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Let me know if I can help call any times.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And then this guy was the other, the other AI
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: was like, thank you so much. I'll get back to you.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I'll email you. Then the other guy was, thank you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: so much. I'll look for the email that, and it
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: just didn't stop. Like it couldn't stop itself and it
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: just kept going. And I'm like, holy shit, where are
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: we right now, man? So that, that personal contact I've
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: always found like even more so than the training aspect,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: which is always super cool. Everybody likes that. But I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: always found that those intimate moments where people can ask,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: ask you a real question and you're going to give
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: a real answer. Like that is the transformational point for
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: these people that are involved. Now, like the one thing
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that I always see that drives me nuts is like,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know, if you are part of the certain, uh,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: trained programs that really people want to sign up and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: they want to beat down and there's something really positive
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to that, right? It's that positive application of pain. You
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: talk about pain all the time in your stuff as like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and that's like, I love that, that that's, that we're
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: similar in that focus. And I think a lot of
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: us focus on that, but you know, in these contexts,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: when you're in those discussions, like it's a different assessment, right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Then whether or not you can be freezing, laying down
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in the surf or you can, you know, uh, patrol
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: all night with a, you know, a hundred pound rock
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is, but these are just the different ones.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And I think that's, what's going to draw people to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you guys more than anything, right.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Is being able to access those conversations. Yeah. Yeah. No,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean, it's, the world is changing, man.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It's just, and you know, I'm, I'm only willing to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: conform so much, you know, I'm setting my ways.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Like I won't change my morals. You know, I'm not
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna, you know, if I don't like somebody,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I'll tell somebody I don't like them. I've always been
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that way. You know, if I do like somebody, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: won't let somebody talk shit about somebody behind their back.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know, like I love you. If someone said, you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Dave's a real POS, I'd be like, Hey, watch it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But if someone said, Hey, Dave's, fucking miserable at reaching
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: back to people i'll be like let me tell you
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: what that piece of shit.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I own that for sure no i'm kidding but i
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: just think um all this technology like here's what drives
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: me nuts about today i don't know what's real and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: what's not i know this is real me and you
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: yeah for sure that's i miss the real i miss
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the interaction shit I remember how, like, I guess I've
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: never done a dating app.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm still, I still have, I still have my woodlands
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: camis in the, in the closet.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: That's how old I am. I don't, you know, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: don't wear the cry. I still like the old school shit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: That's so awesome. I asked my wife out. People are like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: oh man, that's so much work. You just swipe left
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that takes, it takes the, it's like, I'd
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: rather go out and hunt and kill something than go
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to the grocery store and buy it. Yes. One's more convenient,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: but I miss, I miss the art of, accomplishing the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: mission you know what i mean yeah yeah it's well
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: i think you nailed it it's the idea of what's
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: genuine and what's not and and the more like i
• 24:20
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the show. Like young influencers on,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: on the gram now are offering free, programs without your
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: phone to disconnect for real genuine interaction. And for us,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? This
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: is what we do, man. We've been doing this for
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: 20 fucking years. And now you're telling me that you're
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: doing something new. Are you out of your mind? Like what,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about? But But again, like I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: guess now we're in a place where human interaction is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: what's vintage and now is retro, right?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So we're in our retro moment of human interaction.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We see it all the time. Kids are wearing shirts
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and shit that we grew up. Like I'm friends with
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Todd Smith. You know him as LL Cool J.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: My daughter one day is like, daddy, daddy, you said
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: this LL Cool J guy is really good. I'm like, what? Yeah. Like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I had another one like. I was up
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in college and they're playing Sugar Hill Gang and they're like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: no one knows the words. I'm like, I started singing it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fast five, Freddie. Yeah, man. They just, you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: it's amazing. We do this. We go in cycles, you know? Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: What's amazing is when we were kids, there was no
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: fucking cell phones. Yeah, man.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But yet I always knew where that special girl was.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I always knew where my guys were. And I always
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: tried to rewind in my watch because you know how
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the deal was. You went out as early as you could.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: You came in when the lights came on. If you
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: were late, you started coming up with bullshit stories. Cause
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that's when the beatings.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Were still, that's right. Part of it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And you took your beating like a man and you
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: just did the same thing the next day.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: The next night. That's right. That's awesome. That's awesome. All right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: So as people come into the operators collective.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Is all right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: How do you guys, cause this is the interesting thing.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Cause there's so much talent there. There's so many guys
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: that have such really unique perspectives, right? There is the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: overlay of coming from the community, but everything that I
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: see with your guys is they've taken all that and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: then they've built on this framework of how they perceive
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: what training looks like, what the evolution of the heart
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and the mind look like, however you break it down.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: How do you guys.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: integrate those things so they support one another well i
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: mean the way that we've started off now is like
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you know like we recently had a poker match right
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: so um it's kind of like anything else man like
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: yes we've all earned our seat at the table we
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: were at but rob is like listen you got to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: earn your seat here too like what do you mean
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like Listen, if you want to come to the poker event,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you've got to go out.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And recruit one or two people to come to it. Okay. Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I recruit nine.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You know, hey, if you want to do the Vegas event,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: we want you to bring a person. Then we're going
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to do this and this. Right? Like, it's like anything else.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I like it because it makes me feel like I'm
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: back in the teams because you've got to earn your keep, man. Yeah, man.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And then what we do with that is like case
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: in point. I don't know if you saw it, but
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Rob just spoke at one of the Trump rallies. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: he had, he had, he had will with him and Clint.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to Clint Emerson.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I got a lot. Yeah. Clint Emerson. Make sure I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: say it right. Oh, sorry. And I always say the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: other name.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And then Ari called me up and said, Hey man,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you've been grinding. You want to come to the next one?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I can't because I do coaching on
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: those days. He's like, okay, I'll tell Mr. Trump that,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but he just goes down the line with the people
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that are producing.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Now it's.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And when, when I say that, it's not just about
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: making the money. It's about, you know, showing, putting in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the effort and the time to want to be.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: On that stage.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: To support the brand too, right? And you're building a brand.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That's right. It's, it's really hard to do, man.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I remember, I remember when, when Marcus and Mal, they started,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you know, the team never quit Speakers Bureau, right? And,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and initially, it was the same people that had been
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a part of the Patriot tour and, and then, and,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: you know, and they got it to a certain degree,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: but man, all right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Those things are difficult, right?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: People don't realize that just cause you're on a speakers
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: bureau doesn't mean you're, you're turning down, uh, 25 speeches
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a day, right? Like, like you're still grinding, you're still
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: staying relevant. You're still, you know, you still have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: let everybody know that what you speak about is relevant
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and can impact their life in a relatively, uh, quick
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: period of time. And, and, and that, you know, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I think, I think watching you guys come together and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is really just It's the next iteration of that, right?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Of what, what the, just the speakers bureau does. It's,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it's like, no, we're all going to contribute. We're all
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: going to enhance the brand. So then that the brand
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: is going to benefit. Then we all benefit down range
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: from it. Like that, that platoon mentality.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Create impact, leave a legacy and have some fucking fun
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: while you're doing it. That's what Rob says.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty, you know, he'll be like, Hey,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: let me make it easy for you. Right. And I'm like, okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Cause you know, we sat and we had a meeting
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: of the minds and Rob was just like, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: this is what we want to do.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Plus there's listen in all communities.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to say who, but there's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of backstabbing and a lot of this, this
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: bro shit stuff going on, bro.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: That's shit going on right now. I was called that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And I thought at first it was a compliment, like bro.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, but I miss the days back in
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the early days of the platoons when just, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: everybody had everybody's back.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Now it's, you know, I mean, you know, you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Kennedy. I've been talking, I've been
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: talking to Tim for the last month and a half. So,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you know, is he okay? Is he good? He's going
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to be all right. He's recovering, you know, but good,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's coming, it comes out a month later
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and then everybody's like.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: The comments, like the guy, the guy got shot three times,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: no matter what happened before that. You know, I love Timmy,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know, me and Redmond been talking a lot, but
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like people are always fake.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I hope he dies. I'm like, Jesus Christ, man. Well,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I use that word, but yeah, yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: You're other vets, bro. It's, it's, it's insane now. Like
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it's fucking insane. I, I, I dealt with it. My
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: first real experience was in our, our, whatever that old
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: chat was. And someone had posted a, a, some company
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I'd worked for had ripped the piece and put it
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: up on this goal cast. motivational site and, and it went,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and it was me talking about Mikey Monsoor and his experience.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And I, I use, I use him as an example
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of this is the definitive, uh, uh, concept of commitment.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: There's no other level of commitment that's greater than Mike's,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you know, what he did for, for, yeah, there's not like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: that's the pinnacle.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And so I use that as an example. And then
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I go into the speech and that got out and,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and somebody put on, this private chat or whatever, like, oh,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is Rutt saying that he was there? Is Rutt saying
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he was in Iraq? Is Rutt saying this? He's pimping.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And then someone else was like, oh, well, Rutt will
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: pimp his trident to anybody that'll fucking pay him. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And luckily I had like 10 guys kind of be like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: you guys are full of shit. He doesn't, he wants
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: everybody to succeed. He mostly helps kids. I don't know
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: what the fuck you're talking about. Like, and, and, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that's the nature of it. And so, you know, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: think the problem is, is, you know, you see enough
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: of that and you, you know, I don't care how
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: tough you are.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: It'll jade you. You'll make you. Yeah. I was hammered
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: for years with the, the men's course I was putting on,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you know, you're, you're a snake salesman. You're this.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And then I tell everybody, you know, listen, this is America, man.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: If people want to pay, they pay like no one's forcing.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: This isn't like, you know, you know, this isn't a draft.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: These guys pay too much money. And I'm like half
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the people. And one guy, I do, I'm doing a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: motivational speech.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: It's nothing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I'm yelling at people. And he's some air force guy
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: from the, some, from some guy who's never served a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: day in the military. And I'm like, I literally wrote,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: did you even like Google who I am? Like, yeah,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I did. It said you're a Navy SEAL, but that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. I'm like, oh, you were air traffic
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: controller or something.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Air Force. Great. But I don't know why people are like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: everybody's just so pissed off. Like, listen, this is. That's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: what it is. That's what it is. Like, listen.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I could only imagine how much money you've made over
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the years. And instead of being jealous and, you know, listen,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I'm always like that motherfucker. I wish I had, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: would have loved to have the Boston gig.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I won't lie. Dude, that was a freak accident, by
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the way, the whole thing, you know, but. but it's like, well,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: but then the mindset shifts. You worked with UCLA though.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's significant.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Mindset shift is, well, if he can do it, then
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I can fucking do it. That's how I look at it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: If, if rut can do it, I can do it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Now you are much more articulate.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: You're a different, different level of speaker than me, Mary
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: articulated versus me, but I have my audience and you
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: have your audience and that's cool.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And that's, what's so great, you know? And I love that,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: but I think.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: The bashing is, is where we, I actually, like, I,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I don't, I was, I was up at Penn state
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: this weekend, um, for the whiteout game against SC and,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and there's a guy whose name's Kat McCombie. And he
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: used to be the CEO of team two, uh, in
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Vietnam back in 72, the two, the year, uh, Tommy
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Norris and, um, um, Mike, um, I.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Know you're talking about Mike Thornton. Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So he was there, he wrote them up for those awards.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Like he knows them all. And I brought up, I
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: brought up the whole thing that's going on with, um, with, um, uh,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Robert's Ridge right now with, you know, how Andy had
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Mitch Hall on and then the Chapman controversy. And you
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: saw Jason and slab get, You know, senior chief Deming's
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: like called them out in some function or something. And,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and like, and I asked him, I go, you know, captain,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you know, what do you think about it all? And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: he's like, he goes, it's disgusting. He goes back in
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: our day, if we had a problem with somebody, we
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: would go to them face to face and we would
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: solve it like men would. But now he's like, everybody
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: wants to be famous. Everybody wants to be the man.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be the guy or whatever it is.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And we're, we're not only destroying our community, but we're
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: destroying other communities. Other communities are destroying themselves. And it's like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Now it's turned into this where I think the overall
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: general public is kind of dismayed with– all they got
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to do is text or grok search or chat GPT
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: is certainly– you know why do fucking rangers hate seals
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and it'll list 25 podcasts where fucking we're going at
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: each other and i and i'm.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Just like okay all right i i is.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Have we just gotten to that place where we no
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: longer like and you talk about it all the time
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you're like Hey man, it's on you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Like your success is on you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And if you start to blame other people for your
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: lack of success or your lack of focus or being
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: distracted or any of that, man, it's going to fuck
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you up. And if you stay focused on yourself and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: what you can do every day, you know, then you're good.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It's just, I never imagined we would have to develop
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: such a fucking such a psychological barrier, almost like a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: barrier you had to create buds for the pain. Like
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: now you have to create a barrier for the haters
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that are attacking you 24 seven. You know, but I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: will tell you when I'm taking a deuce at some
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: of the best material I read, sometimes I'll even write it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I wish I could snap a picture, but I do, man.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, Hey, sitting here taking a giant deuce
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: thinking about you. Hope you're well. I just have fun
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: with it, man. Like, Well, that's cool. Because when I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: started getting hit up on things, I did hit up
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people like, you know, Kennedy back in
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the day before all the shit happened. Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the club, man. I'm like, yeah, man.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I just didn't think that trying to do something good
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: would affect so many people in a negative way.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think like that. I'm like, listen, I'm out
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of here. And that's what I tell everybody.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: You might not like me or what I do, but
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the question I'll ask is then, what the fuck are
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Like, let's have a conversation. And then I go, oh,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: fuck you. Seals suck and you're short. Okay, got it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Come at me with something real. You know, that's the
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: thing I get now. You're short and you've got gray hair.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, do you want me to get...
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: My dad's dead. Do you want to talk to my
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: mom about this? There's nothing I can do, man. I
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: was in a smurf crew. I don't go around saying
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a seven-foot tall. I mean... i mean.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my god i think i've got my smurf over
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: there man i mean.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: It's like anything like it's well let let's pivot let's
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: pivot yeah sorry let's let's talk about all right this
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: obviously when we started you said there's this new perception
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: that's emerging for.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: You yeah and and has that new perception altered the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: way you're teaching teaching? your stuff or, or has it
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: just altered the delivery of how you do it or
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: what has changed in the core aspect of what you're
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: trying to teach as a result of your new, um,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: understanding of what would be the best, uh, the, what
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is it? The, the, cause I think for me, what
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it is, is recognizing that there's a very limited amount
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of people that will actually follow through what we try,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: what you try and teach them. But those that do
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: can find remarkable improvements in their life. And so I
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: had to lower my expectations of the impact I thought
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I was having because I, I, I ended up, you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: after the whole COVID where everything collapsed for me, like
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I really had to like reset my, my expectations of success. Like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just different. Like it's going to be
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: different now. It's going to be different what I expect.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So how have you done that in, in, after this
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: awakening that say it happened for you?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've, there's certain things that I, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: stay out of, right? Like if you look at my post,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of politics.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I don't get into politics. I'm a Christian, but I
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: don't post a lot of that. I try to keep
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: myself neutral versus being so smart.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Cause listen, here's the thing. I don't give a shit
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: who you vote for, who I vote for. Don't, you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you're straight or you're gay, just
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: don't pour it down my throat.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Like I have friends that are gay. I have friends
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: that are lesbians. I have people that are dumb, whatever.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And there's something like, and I have gay people that
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: are like, when they watch the stupid, they go, this,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: that is not, that is not the gay community.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Right. Um, tonality. I've changed the tonality. You know, I've
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: gotten more sincere. Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I think with age, like, you know, I used to think, listen,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: when you're young, you're dumb, you know, yelling got a response,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: but it, it didn't get results. It got me instantaneous results.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Cause you know, run in place, people like running in place.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: But then when I changed the tonality and I made
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: things more, you know, passion and result driven and gave
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: people tools and gave them lessons and gave them drills
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: takeaways and said, listen, like I say this in every speech, right?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get up here and give you, whether it's,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I always break down my speech in the seconds,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: 2,400 seconds, you know, like whatever, 30, whatever.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Brilliant.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I explain how time and heartbeat are two most precious
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: commodities we have. Thank you for giving me that many
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: heartbeats in this many seconds. But then after that, I
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: tell them, listen, I'm going to go up here and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about a lot of things and
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk fast. If you take one thing
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: with you, one, one thing, then I've won. If I, if, if,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm getting ready to speak to a smaller crowd,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: 150 people. If one person out of 150 takes one
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: of the things that I taught them and they apply
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: it or they put it in that physical, mental and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: emotional toolbox that they carry with them, then I fucking
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: won versus I used to be like. You know, I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: tell them get in shape and then I come back
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: six months later and they're still.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Fat and I'd be like, you know, no, but now
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it's hey. Okay, I'll approach them the same way, but hey,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: in the last six months, have you been getting up
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and have you been doing your pushups? Yes. Have you
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: been making your bed? Yes. My wife, she loves Bill,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: but she hates Adam McCraven because I make the bed
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: with her in it. But hey, are you staying consistent
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: on your meal plan? We don't use the word diet. Hey,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: are you having your reward day? We don't cheat, right?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And I just.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Reframe and restructure things to the point where they're lessons learned.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Because some of the best BUDS instructors- There's a couple
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of different ways you can look at it. There's some
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: in Bud's instructors that would scream and yell.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There were others that said nothing.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And there were some that would break you down and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: then pull you aside and say, let me tell you
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: why I just did that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what resonated with me. So now when I'm
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: doing my PTs and stuff, you know, I talk about
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the importance of team, trust, effort, attitude, mission. I don't
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: just go around screaming, be a team, be a team.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: You have to explain at our level because we run
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: at a very high level of frequency that what team
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: means because when we like team to us means something
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: much different to a normal average person, but when you
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: can relay it to them in a manner that they
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: can receive it, right? Transmit, receive, and then they can
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: apply it. I tell them, my goal is to make
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you leave here. I want you thinking like you're an ABCL.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Will you get the same results as us? No, because
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: we've been doing it a lot longer. But I want
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you thinking unconventional, out of the box, three-dimensional. And people
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: will take that with them. And I get these great results. Ray,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I've lost 10 pounds. I'm stuck. You're not stuck. You
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: just got to regroup. You got to reframe it. You
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: got to work harder. Boom, boom, boom. And it's making
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: an impact. And that's what I want to be known as.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Like Tim Grover told me. Tim Grover is one of
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: my mentors. I'm going out to his next event. That's awesome.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yelling at everybody, right?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: He goes, number one, you talk so fast. No one
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: can understand what the hell you're saying. All I hear
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: is that slow down and tell people, he just said,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: slow down and enjoy the ride. Oh, it's more like, listen, Dave,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: instead of screaming at you, I believe in you. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: need you to move your ass. I need you to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: get up. I need you to, I need you to
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: find it right now. your why, whatever it is. And
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I need you to get your big ass up and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: get your fat ass moving. And I talk to people
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: like that. And it's fun. Jason Redman, you know, Jason's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: one of my best friends. He told me, you're the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: only guy that can go to church and cuss out
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a priest and a priest will love you. A hundred percent.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: That is a hundred percent. I was at church and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: my pastor said, Hey, what'd you think of this? Well,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: he always, we leave. Yeah. Yeah. What did you think
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: about today's service? I said, sir, God kicks ass. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: he went, And he's like, you know what, Ray, you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: really mean that. Don't you? I mean, yeah, he just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: kicks ass. I mean, I just, I got his power
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in me today. He was like, awesome. And he even said,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I would not allow anybody else. Cause he knows it's.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Coming from the heart. And I think a hundred percent,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I'm all heart now, man. Like I've always been, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you know, it's, I just, I get emotional, man.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm vulnerable.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: That's the, one of the things I've learned with age is,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You've always been like, I mean, I don't know if
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: people know how fucking tough you are.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And how, you know, cause you are, you are, you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: play the, and I know, right. But vulnerability I've learned
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: since we've last spoken is a true sign and testament
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of strength. So the more vulnerable I am, like, you know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: people are like, you're an ABC when you cry, you're
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: fucking right. I cry.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I was watching a show and I was crying like
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a baby church and I've been moved and I've cried
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, like, I don't know why the hell
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I'm crying.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You know, but when I feel it, you know, that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the difference from the young rate of this one is if,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: if I feel something and it overwhelms me and it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: makes me want to scream or I do it, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: don't hold back anymore.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm just, you trust. Cause for me, I think Ray,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that is, this is like one of the biggest points.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: It's like you, when you suppress the, your own intimacy
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: with yourself for so long, you know, trying to portray, uh, not,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it's not portrayed. You're not, it's not like it's, it's fake.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Cause you're really, you really want to be the best, right?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: You really genuinely want to be like as dedicated a
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: person to, you know, whether it's the teams or contract
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and whatever you've focused on that, you know, you, you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: generate this, this distance from intimacy. And now I think as,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: as in particular for me, you know, especially since like
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: COVID was this big turning point for me, like, Now
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh dude, like there's, there's a piece over here,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: literally that's affiliated with the concept of feeling peaceful, that
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: it will help create the balance in me that I, I,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I think has been absent for as long as it
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: has been. And that's going to make me more grateful
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: for the opportunities I do have. And for, like you said,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: that one person in the audience, uh, or a response
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: from one of my kids going, Hey dad, when you.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Said this, this is what you meant, right? I'm like, Oh, like,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. That's awesome. Um, has, has any of, of,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: cause I know.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: You're really intimately involved in the Navy SEAL swim and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: New York and other charities. Has that played a role
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: in not the softening, but like the recognition that no man, I'm,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to cultivate an emotional intelligence that's on par
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: with my dedication and my commitment to becoming better.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I think the older I get, the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: more I'm trying to live up to not, not just
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: what I was, but what I am now.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And I am a man of commitment and of honor
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and of the Lord. And, you know, and I think,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I learned a lot.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I've learned a lot of shit since, you know, being
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the young, you know, Ray, Ray Care Bear to the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Ray Cash Care.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And it's, you know, the more you make, right.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean from a monetary standpoint, but the
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: more you consume, it's not the more you take, it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the more you give. So, and then like I told
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: you before, I think one of the most precious commodities, the,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the purest form of something that I can give you
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: is my time, my undivided time, my, you know, um, so, um,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You know, when I'm doing that swimming, I'm going to
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: make this very clear.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I don't fucking like swimming. I don't. I've swam a lifetime.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not a swimmer like you. I don't. I mean,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen you swim.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I get in the water and people sometimes were like, hey,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I need to see your DD214 because they don't believe you.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Well, your fucking shoulders are five and a half feet wide.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: But you know what? I honestly feel that. I have
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: to do that because it's a true, it's a true
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: test of my sacrifice. And I don't do it like people,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: some people do it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, it keeps me in shape. I, every, every kick, glide, stroke, every,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you know, when I start off, I'm doing this to
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: people because I'm so slow.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's, it's for the brave men and women who have,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: who are, and who will serve this great nation. So
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it's a small, it's a, it's such a small part.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It hurts. Yeah. You cramp up. I usually swim it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: with Will Branham, old senior chief Branham. But, um, I do.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: That with everything now, you know, we give back to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the church and I will tell you this right now, man,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: when I was younger, it felt great taking, conquering, killing, destroying,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: whatever it was.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It feels really fucking good. Give it back. Yeah.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Like I told you, man, the sun setting, the winds
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: are changing things, you know, are happening. And you know what,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: instead of fighting it, I just go with it, you know?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And if that, you know, if that's going to make
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: me sound like a pussy, I don't care. Cause I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: can still, I can still smoke most people that want
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And the people that I can't people like, you know,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: like you and other guys that I know are like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: you know, huge into the world of what I do,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: they get it.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't have to worry. I don't
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: even off camera, you'd be like, Ray, I get it, man. Fucking.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Cause I am not the same man. I was, I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a better man than I was. That's right.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm more whole, you know, before
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I was just looking for a fight, you know, now
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm looking for peace.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this right now. It's easier to
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: find war than it is peace, brother. So that leads
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: me to my final question.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And this is something that I have been like, for
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: the last four months has been this absolute thing. I
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: cannot get out of my head. Cause like you were
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: just saying, I realized, Oh, I, I don't know what
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: that is. Like if you want, if like you, I
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: can do fucking 50 podcasts in my sleep. I can
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: fucking speak all day long. I can train somebody to shoot.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I can train somebody to, uh, perform better to endure
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: more pain.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I got that shit down.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Right. But if you were to ask, Hey, rut, how
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: do I fucking find, have more peace in my life?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like fucking like blank. I have no idea what
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: that is or what it means. And so I've really
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: over these last months, I'm like a hundred percent committed
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: to not only for myself, cause I want some more
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: peace in my life. I want that feeling, but more
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: importantly for my wife and for my kids.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: And so that it's not always like up here, you know, grinding,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: like they can feel this other piece of me. you know,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: that fucking artist, that poet that's in me somewhere, you know,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that comes out on occasion. But, and so I now
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: like every time I, I have an operator on, I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: ask him this question to end with, and I want
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to present it to you. Cause like everything you've been
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: talking about fits in line with what I'm trying to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: figure out myself is how do you find peace in
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the everyday pain of your life?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Fuck, man. You know, I know you're I knew you're
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: going to ask this question and because I listen, but fuck.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: But I do a couple of things. Number one, I
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: use the like I'm a pain coach. If we're going
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: to sit here and be real with each other, I'm
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: not a motivational coach.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm a pain coach.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And what I've learned how to do is and I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: know this is probably super unhealthy. And when I went
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to go do the the Mexico trip, I was a mess.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But I've learned how to compartmentalize different pains, physical, mental, emotional, social, spiritual,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: financial and sexual pain that I've dealt with in my life.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Right. They're in these. It's kind of like the old
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: satcom when you got to go through the windows, right?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: You know what that means. This is pre-138, right?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: 152. This is before all that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: The tank on your back. That's right. The prick 77,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: if you will, right? Boy, we're talking some old school here.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I've just learned that I reflect on that. And I've
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: overcome that.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: And I honestly think for me, what, how I do is,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm different than most is I reflect on daily pain.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And then what I do is I put it through
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: the strainer that says the reason why I endured so
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: much pain, why I have, you know, been through what I,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of, a lot of things
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I've dealt with and I hope a lot of people
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: never have to deal with.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And I think it, it, it was a test.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: It was a test to see, if I was strong
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: enough to handle the battles that we deal with so
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that when the waters did come and they do eventually
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: come that you're happy just sailing with who you want
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: to sail with.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: And for me, you know, you know, I've, I've talked
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: about my wife since day one, man. I'm like you, man.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I married a woman I got no fucking business being with. 100%.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I've seen yours too.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Listen, you're decent looking and so am I, but our
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: wives are a lot hotter.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Dude. And I got great kids and, you know- You do.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: By the way, you do have great kids, man. From
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: what I- I beat the shit out of my son.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: My daughter owns me, but yeah, I love them. And
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think it tested me and I think I- you know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and life is like buds. You don't pass it. You
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: survive it. You know, man, like everybody's like, Oh, you
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: never thought about quitting bullshit. I thought about quitting all
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the time. I just didn't do it. I didn't do it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: That's right. And I, you know, how did you rank
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: in buds? I passed, I passed, I survived. I survived.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care. I'm a doctor. So
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: For me, it's reflection.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I have, you know, if I had to sum it
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: up in one word, it would be reflection. I, the bad,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: everything that I've endured, everything that I've consumed, everything that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I have, you know, I've carried, we carry a lot
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: of shit physically, mentally, emotionally has brought me to where
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I am now.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And now I am older, a little wiser. Um, and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm content. I'm happy with who I am. Now,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: do I still seek greatness? You bet your fucking ass
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I do. I still want it all. But I've learned
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to dominate the needs before I go for the once,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: you know, before. Wow, that's fascinating. Explain that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just look at impulsive purchase. Like I
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: am a typical team guy. You know, I've divorced family, wrestler,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: daddy issues. Right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I was abused all this. I could get into it.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And I used to do stupid shit.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I used to cheat. I used to be addicted to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: pretty much everything there is.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: That's why my pastor makes me do a thousand pushups
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: a day because every time I want to pop it,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: screw it, drink it, smoke it, whatever it is.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Do this till you don't want to do them anymore. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: And then I also used to be the guy that
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: had five cars sitting outside and I only drove one.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Of them because I wanted them. I didn't need them.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I don't need all that shit. As humans, I don't
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: need this big house I'm in. I'm in this big
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: house because I wanted it. As we get older, we
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: realize the need is the necessity. I don't need a
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: big house. I just need a house full of fucking love, brother.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I don't need three cars. I just need a car
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: that's going to run when I get it. Like I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: tell everybody, the car, you know, I like my watches.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody has their vices. But the watch doesn't make the man.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: The car doesn't make the man. The man makes the man.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And that's what people need to realize. And I stopped
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: trying to be something and somebody that I wasn't.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to be a Dave Rutherford. I'm never
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: going to be a Taco Wilbeck. I'm never going to
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: be David Goggins. I can talk about myself in a
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: third person.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Break cash care. But no. And I love Dave. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: love all you guys.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: But the need is I need to be me and
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: stop wanting to be you. and when people do that,
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: that's when I think they're finally just at ease and
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: at calm and at peace with themselves.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this right now, man, I don't know.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Neither one of us know how much longer we have,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: but I will tell you this right now.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And this is, this is a true story. If I
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: died right now on this podcast right now, I'm happy.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking content with who I am, what I've done. Now,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: And the one thing I've done now is, like I say,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: every minute is a mission. So my mission right now,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I've got a lot of making up to do to people,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you do too in some aspects. We
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: all have demons. Every day is just another opportunity for
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: me to be better, not make more money, not go
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: out and buy expensive shit, but to be a better father,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: a better friend, a better you know when i say
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: lover more intimate like the things that matter right um
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and that's what i'm gonna do man and you know
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: i've i've kind of taken a step back i mean
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: you see me all over social media and stuff but
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: i'm not yelling anymore i'm happy i don't know maybe
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: i was yelling because i had issues i don't know
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: but i get the same thing done And it's perceived
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: at a higher frequency just when I'm me, you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: like having a conversation like this. And I'll tell you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: this right now. I got to watch your time. I'm
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: not going to fucking stop and I'm not going to change,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: but I'm content. And like I said, not many people
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: can say that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's still a lot of wrongs that I'm
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: trying to write.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: But if I died right now, I'd die a happy man. Amen, Ray. Amen.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: thank you for that answer. And, and just, I thank
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: you for.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Being you out of all the guys I've known that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: have not only from the teams, but in this game too, man,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: you're one of the most genuine dudes I've ever met
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: in my life. You never act like anything other than yourself.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I know the feeling of, you know, challenging yourself against
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: other people's success for sure.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: And all that, but man, you are really a unique,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: amazing human being.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I'm really stoked that we're friends and I just wish
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you all the best with all the other guys. And
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, I'm just, I'm grateful that you're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: willing to come on and share what you share with everybody.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I just really respect it a lot, Ray. Much love, brother.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. It's an honor. Seriously. Awesome.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Where can people sign up if they want to try
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and go to the apex or you're also doing, you're
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: also doing the agogi with Nick in North Carolina too.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Or South Carolina. Dude, I love Nick. Nick's one of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: my favorite people. I love that you guys are all
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I hate that. He's a fucking freak. He's a maniac, dude.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: He just what fucking was, I got second place and second.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Dude. I'm like, I'm like, what are you talking about, dude?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: He's like, I love him so much. I'm so happy
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you guys, you guys. So where can people follow and sign.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Up and everything?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. Um, you can always listen if it's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: on Instagram, DM me Ray cash care. If it's a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: professional DM, I answer them off. It's something stupid. You're
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: probably going to get.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: A dick pic back. I'm joking. I'm going to be mean. Um,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I'm joking.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Uh, or you can just go to Ray cash care.com
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: if you're interested in any of the events, but even
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: if it's apex protocol, hit me up, I'll give you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: all the information and then pass you over to the team.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: November 20th through the 23rd, Las Vegas, Sin City. We're
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: going to have a great time. Awesome. Ray, I love you, buddy.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Love you too, man.